Putin is a POS. He needs to go.

SI

US should be very cautious about promoting instability in Russia. Even if not-so-secretly people like Clinton want the Jewish oligarchs to rule that country. They have no clue what consequences it may bring. Just like with Iraq and Afghanistan - clueless morons rush in where wise men dare to thread.

Russia's 'Arab Spring'? is this the most dumb ass question? America's 4th of July Mexicos Cinco de Mayo?

Soooooooooooo,

When are going to bomb, invade and occupy THIS country????

Warmongers, your cue...............

I'm sure Obama the warmonger has already ordered the B-2s and missle cruisers to prepare for another Libya.

Max^108 "US should be very cautious about promoting instability in Russia. Even if not-so-secretly people like Clinton want the Jewish oligarchs to rule that country."

There are almost no Jews left in Russia, so don't be paranoid.

And most of the Jews that remain in Russia today live in poverty and deplorable conditions. And a lot of them live in the outposts of Siberia in small communities. Most of them cannot afford to immigrate to Israel or any other western country. Many of them are elderly.

Educate yourself about Russia's Jewish oligarchs: http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/oct2008/russian-jewish-oligarchs.html

Marie, I'm not sure where you got that information from, but it is clearly not true.

I think those protestors may have a new word added to their vocabularies - Gulag.

As usual, a democrat sides with the protesters first. Typical Clinton response.

Yes, because they believe in freedom. As usual, a right-winger sides with authoritarianism, voter fraud, and thuggish tactics.

@KiloByte1339 - Really?! You need to go outside and fly a kite or something because what you wrote is absolutely absurd.

Does anyone think the united states is any diffrent? cause your wrong if you do.

sara, Marie got that information from "On Wings of Eagles" (presumably). You should see this program. I came across it one Sunday morning on a Christian network as I was flicking through the channels. I watched the whole thing because it was laughable. It ran like a world vision program. As if getting Jewish people to Israel is the most important thing for a Christian to do with their money.

cullerco, John McCain is a republican and Hilary Clinton is just repeating what has been confirmed by European election monitor groups.

John McCain shouldn't feel too self righteous in calling this Russia's "Arab Spring." Springtime will come to any country where the citizens feel repressed and ignored.

Thank you Adam. I wonder how long it will take for people to grasp that you can't always believe everything you see on tv. Especially things about the miserable state of Jews in Russia who are ousted to "the outposts of Siberia" and probably made to wear a yellow Star of David on their clothes while living in poverty and surviving on what they can grow over the course of the short Siberian summer.

Russian Jews are a very diverse group. Some of them are oligarchs, some of them are professors at major universities, some of them are dentists, some of them are taxi cab drivers and some of them are homeless drunks, as is the case with any other minority.

Vlad to McCain...OWS is coming to a house near you. If you can count them and find them.

Max - you are an Anti-Semite at least, and probably a Muslim. You people hate Jews. There are 14 million Jews worldwide, less than before WWII. You dingbat Jew hates think 7 million Jews in Israel and another 7 million worldwide will control the remaining 6,986,000,000 of us? You are simply a niwit Jew hater.

"Jewish oligarchs?" Wow, there went any credibility you might have had.

US should be very cautious about promoting instability in Russia. Even if not-so-secretly people like Clinton want the Jewish oligarchs to rule that country.

Ummmmm, not to worry - they're too smart to give a damn what Russia thinks and judging by your comments they're ten times smarter than you, anyway.

"Uneasy is the head that wears the crown". True in any country and is now about to come true for our political figures, both democrats and republicans. We the taxpayers are sick to death of being taxed to death while large defense contrators make billions for the weapon systems the Pentagon buys. Most of these large corporations PAY NONE OR ALMOST NO TAXES BECAUSE THEIR LOBBYIST'S WRITE THE TAX LOOPHOLES THAT OUR CONGRESSMEN AND WOMEN INTRODUCE. There will come a day (and in my opinion sooner than these politico's think). When the bribes (excuse me campaign contributions) will not save them from the wrath of the American people. As a former life long republican and now an anti party voter I talk to people every day who have just about reached the breaking point. President Eisenhower, a great war leader, before he left the presidency warned against the great military-defense complex. His warning has come true. Close all of these loopholes and do away with these entitlements that tax the middle class and give it to people who do not work, have never worked and would not take a job if you got them out of the bed at 2 in the afternoon and offered it to them.

cullerco,

"As usual, a democrat sides with the protesters first. Typical Clinton response. Sure, since its been alleged an investigation should be done. But take sides when you have more info, Madam Secretary! John McCain? really?"

How do you know Clinton doesn't have more information than we do? After all, the State Department has its own intelligence division that is a part of the National Foreign Intelligence Community. They also have their ambassadors and other diplomats who provide them with information about what is going on. They do not have to rely solely on the news media for their information like the rest of us.

Does anyone have a sock for Hillary's big mouth?

...All she will accomplish will be to make it even harder to get any agreements with Russia.....it's simply not our business...we can't do anything but just let it play out...

Madame Secretary,.....STFU!!!!!!!!!

Let's send "Jeffrey Immelt" to Russia to help Putin support his Capitalism!

AN OPEN LETTER TO “JEFFREY IMMELT”, THE MAN IN CHARGE OF THE FAILING US-ECONOMY!
Since you accepted this position from the President month ago no one has heard from you again, why? --- Where are you? – Are you in Hawaii creating “the massage capital of the world,” --- I hope not, because the US Economy is now totally in shambles! --- None of us 99% -ers has heard anything from you about this or seen even an outline for a rescue-plan for what needs to be done! --- What do we 99% have to do Jeffrey to get your attention? The American people (all of them, not just your GE stockholder) have a right to hear from the person who was given the power and responsibility to restore our economy and to restore the fate of our people. “Larry Summers” never did his job or took responsibility. He just made Millions for himself by giving speeches to Industry. --- Damn him, --- are you made of the same stuff? – Maybe not, at least the President thought you to be more a man of action to get “things” done. Your fame, Jeffrey, is based on being the best 20th century Capitalistic CEO, but that is a quality which will not save our country, and instead will ruin it. As I said in the next chapter on an economic solution: “putting a famous CEO (Jeffrey Immelt) in charge of the US economy is like: -- “putting a fox in charge of the hen house”. -- It’s a death-sentence for our country --
Why is that? ------ Because your thinking and your actions have been honed to perfection inside the “Box of 20th century Capitalism” which has certainly benefited GE and please your stockholders, but you can you run an American Corporations without a country to base them on? Trouble is that nothing in that “20th century economic box” can save our country in a 21st century Global economy. The US Hyper-Capitalism must perish the same as Soviet Communism has done years ago. Basically that is what all these World-wide 99% OWS demonstrations are all about. (Don’t blame the OWS demonstrators for not knowing this, because neither do you! You need help from University Professors who have thought and written about this NEW kind of GLOBAL economy. (Peter Morici and Joseph Stiglitz come to mind, but there must be others.)

What needs to be done (yesterday) is to generate and publish a good rescue-plan for two reasons. First, for “Plausible Deniability”; fshowing that it wasn’t you who failed, because any such workable plan will certainly be instantly rejected by the Washington politicians. --- Where is your workable PLAN Jeffrey? --- Second, a good workable plan will give our “People “hope” in a time when “Marshal-law” has to be declared to prevent massive mayhem across the country. The 99% of Americans want to hear about your Rescue PLAN Jeffrey. Without such plan, you have no alibi to avoid the BLAME in the eyes of the general public for letting our country be run into the ground. You accepted this job from the President Jeffrey: --- Now Do it --- Damn it!
In another post I will present a workable plan which was generated from ideas of two people. One part is from the work of Professor A.N. Christensen at the “Harvard Business School”, the other from my own work as “Member of Technical Staff” with Bell Laboratories. I worked on it for “10 engineering men years” (on my own). --- Unfortunately, both of us have a terminal illness, --- cancer for Christensen and heart failure for me. (It’s YOU who will have to do most of the work.)

Here are five quotes from knowledgeable business leaders predicting the US future (in 2007)
-------- Any “RESCUE-PLAN” must address all these issues and more and SOLVE THEM:------

Jack Gifford, CEO of Maxim Inc: “… an increasing number of design engineering jobs are moving overseas. If this trend of the past 10 years continues over the next years, the U.S. will lose its position of technical leadership in the World. America’s high standard of living, brought about by technological innovation, will cede to Asia. The lack of growth in our engineering schools, the result of tepid demand, is symptomatic of the problem.”
Brian Halla, National Semiconductor “We are in the most disruptive, the most exciting, the most dangerous period since any of us was born. It's all about the new industrial revolution. Only this time, if our politicians have their way, the great American dream will move to Shanghai.”
Craig Barrett, Chairman of Intel: “--- the United States is losing its edge over other nations in education, technology and research and development. For example, well-educated engineers from China, India and Russia are competing with the United States for jobs " Question: What do you think the U.S. industry of the 21st century is going to be? --- “Agriculture!" he said. "We're sending our workers into the marketplace with a disadvantage: their [lack of] education”.
Prof. Ben G. Streetman, dean of the College of Engineering, University of Texas, and member of the National Academy of Engineering gives another dire prediction. He writes: “Every year, we’re educating about half the number of engineers that the country needs and importing the rest. “That’s a prescription for going out of business as a country.”
Jeffrey Immelt CEO of GE …"More people will graduate in the United States in 2006 with sports-exercise degrees than electrical-engineering degrees,". "So, if we want to be the massage capital of the world, we're well on our way."

Putin = Liar

Fair Elections = Putin's lies and threats

We sure got some ignorant people ^^ here....

Russia is not just another country where you can just launch B2 stealth bombers without consequences folks.

In case you forgot Kilo Byte, Russia once detonated the TSAR....the most viciuos Nuclear weapon ever!!!

Not that we could not do that, as a matter of fact we were capable of a weapon 20 times vicious than the Tsar; reason we didnt test or show off is because we have brains...it was unecessary.

The point is dumb ass, Russia is not Lybia or Iraq...countries like that (Russia), you let the power of the people decide it's fate, NOT guns! Messing with communists will just start a 3rd world war of which they can not WIn, but of which most of the suffering will be on the innocent on either sides....lets jsut live it at that....

Toasty McGrath:

Roman Abramovich is currently the ninth richest person in Russia and the 53rd richest person in the world, according to the 2011 Forbes list, with an estimated fortune of $13.4 billion, and he is jewish....

Homer, Oleg Deripaska is the #36 richest person in the world, according to the 2011 Forbes list, with an estimated fortune of $16.8 billion and he is Russian of Belarusian origin....

Do we really want to be saying such things when we have Americans floating around in space with the Russians and their only ride home is in a Soyuz capsule?

Vote manipulation and fraud has been the hallmark of Russian politics for decades under the communists, so there is no need to be surprised that it continues. Yesterday they were members of the communist party and today they are members of the “United Russia” party. Recently, while touring the European part of Russia, I was reminded quite openly, quote….. “Yesterday we were in power and they called us communists and today we are continuing in power but we are called capitalists. Comrade, just look at me, do you see any difference? The money is under our control comrade and that’s what matters” unquote.

Welcome to Russia!

Tis the season for Democracy. Sit back and watch---democracy earned is democracy cherished. Kilo----2.2lbs of bullsh** again.

"Yeah, damn Tea-Party! What were they doing in Russia anyway? "

Oooooh... Am I psychic?

sara1232:

What is your point? I was replying to a post.

Sad but true.

All governments fear the mob, and rightfully so, because history teaches us it is our only real means to secure the redress of grievances.

It's going to be a fascinating new year!

"Esperanza" you should consider changing your name to "Odiosa" since you cultivate hatred for honest and righteous protesters in the U.S., which, by the way, has nothing to do with Russians protesting their Putinocracy, so your remark was off-point, heedless and gratuitously hateful. 20 lashes.

Make sure your a good shot with plenty of ammunition, many of those occupy protesters are veterans. You know, those folks we spent millions of dollars training to use heavy weapons? You make me truly sick and your sorry attitude is one more reason this veteran is considering joining the occupy movement.

Big trouble, you overlook the obvious difference, viz., that here, protesters were almost all tolerated and were allowed to camp and demonstrate for weeks to make their point about the injustice and corruption of our system. The article on the contrary shows that Putin's goons worked hard to prevent any show of protest. So always remember, kids, reading comes before writing!

based on your comment, esperanza, I think you fit the criteria of "scum-sucking filth" just fine yourself. Cheerfully suggesting murder of people? pathetic. or disgusting. or both. Which do you think best fits your bloodthirsty view of life? I'll let you choose. :)

Please report this kind of commenting for it is unlawful.Esperanza needs to know that they are no longer in country that allows this

Occupy is comprised of people with masters degrees, and hard working men and women, and Iraq war vets who are coming home to find they have no opportunities. Check out the real demographics on who occupy wall street is.

ol'doc,

though many of the protesters may be veterans, they cannot see the real problems with this country, and neither can the rest of the ows crowd. And they are less likely to be any more a physical threat than the rest of the socialist hippies they are hanging out in the parks with.

At least the russian mobs are protesting the government, and not some rich folks.

S.Ulmer - Time and history will tell my friend.

Comparing the response to protesters in the US to what we see in countries like Russia is ludicrous. If you think you don't have freedom in the US, try going to Russia or the Middle East and have an OWS camp...then you'll find out how good you have it here.

Esperanza - this country is founded on personal liberty, and people should never be shot for expressing their opinions. I may not agree with a lot of what I've heard from the OWS protesters, but I'll gladly fight and die for their right to protest.

Sorry Tommy, but why should the party being protested decide the scope and duration of the protest? How does that represent freedom of assembly? Just because you feel they made their point doesn't mean they agree. The whole point of a protest is to inconvenience those being protested. If the protested party moves against the protesters using the excuse that they 'made their point', they are no better than Putin's goons.

Ron - I hope as a country we aspire to a higher standard of freedom than 'Better than Russia and the Middle East"!

It'd be great if we didn't paint things with such a broad brush. If this were really a Russian "Arab Spring," then the entire world would be at grave risk. While Arab Spring movements took many forms, many included violence by the State against the People, violence by the People against the State, and a lot of innocent lives lost in between. But these were all relatively small incidents because the countries and the populations were small. If you actually scaled that up to Russia, you'd potentially be looking at another Russian Revolution. That would endanger millions of lives in Russia and the surrounding States, as well as pose a significant security threat to the world.

Which none of these protests will do. So let's not call it Russia's Arab Spring and leave the hyperbole to sports announcers and celebrities.

Big Trouble,

My comment was related to your 2.0 post comparing protesting in the US and other, unspecified countries (and since this article is about Russia, I assumed that was the main comparison). My point is, I haven't seen any action by governments in the US that even remotely compares to government reaction in places like Russia, or the middle east.

Also, government needs to care for all of it's citizens, not just the protesters. When protesters do things such as closing ports, blocking roads and damaging public property, government needs to be fair to the non-protesters and stop the abusive behavior. I am a veteran and I fully support everyone's right to protest - even if I disagree with their opinions. But, if those protests infringe on other people's rights or cost taxpayers money, it is governments responsibility to step in.

Big Trouble,

I have no problem with the OWS message. But they're method is wrong. Instead of protesting in Washington, so that the law and policymakers might sense the outrage and do something about the war on the middle class they took over a park in NYC, annoyed all the small business and shopowners, and residents of the nieghborhood. Did they really think all those rich greedy folks in the big offices were going to just change their ways becaus some peole were standing around? And Zuccotti Park is private property, do oyu think it's fair tha tthe owners had to put up with peopel settign up camp there, urinating all over the place, and disrupting things? If these OWS peole were smart, they would have realized that they were alienating lots of people because of their antics. They came across as a bunchof dirty, whiny, hippies that feel entitled to something. As I said, I agree with the message, big business has had the upper hand in this country for way too long, but OWS had no leaders who could effectively communicate their goals and positions.

The US was first, is Russia last?

-------- What is the SIGNIFICANCE of these Word-wide OWS demonstrations?------
Here are the Prophetic words by Tom Friedman, the famous journalist with “The New York Times” ::
“Now let me say that in English: the European Union is cracking up. The Arab world is cracking up. China’s growth model is under pressure and America’s credit-driven capitalist model has suffered a warning [major] heart attack and needs a total rethink. Recasting any one of these alone would be huge. Doing all four at once — when the world has never been more interconnected - is mind-boggling.
--- We are again present at the creation - but of what?

-------- [ Never in the history of modern man has such a global event ever happened ] -----

As for America, we’ve thrived in recent decades with a “credit-consumption-led economy”, whereby we maintained a middle class by using more steroids (easy credit, subprime mortgages and construction work) and less muscle-building (education, skill-building and innovation). It’s put us in a deep hole, and the only way to dig out now is a new, hybrid politics that mixes spending cuts, tax increases, tax reform and investments in infrastructure, education, research [innovation] and production. But that mix is not the agenda of either party. Either our two parties find a way to collaborate in the center around this new hybrid politics, or a third party is going to emerge
-------— or we’re stuck and the pain will just get worse”.

[ Of the three demanded activities, education, skill-building and innovation, –- none is financially or otherwise supported by our present Government. --- This omission is an act of National-suicide.]

Esperanza has her right to her opinion and the right to exercise that right by voicing it. Although I may not agree with what she has to say I (and many before me and will after me) will fight to the death for her right to say it - "famous quote insert author here no time to google it" cheers! :)

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Nevermind the government. I'd gladly have opened fire on that scum-sucking occupy filth myself.

The mob consists of lowlives who consume more oxygen than they're worth.

Brand new and posts via Facebook. You have to hate just about everything to do with democracy, Ayn Rand. Another shill that loves violence and thinks empathy is a back up band for Gaga.

Oh yes, we can only hope that hard working, job creating Americans will rise up against the Obama regime and its unwashed, unproductive drones.

It does make you think. If Newt was elected, how harsh would the crackdown be on normal Americans. I suspect that he would have approximately 33% of the country locked up in prisons. Luckily, we have the patriot act, so they can lock them all up and never tell anyone. They can hold them all indefinitely, and torture them for kicks. Ah, it will be just glorious...

It does make you think. If Newt was elected, how harsh would the crackdown be on normal Americans.

Paranoid much, or just a whole, whole lot? Loosen the tinfoil.

vigon-2763979

Oh yes, we can only hope that hard working, job creating Americans will rise up against the Obama regime and its unwashed, unproductive drones.

Funny how the ones who make a living sitting around the pool waiting for their dividend check always refer to themselves as "hard working". And as to job creating? The only jobs the 1% have created lately are in China. Be gone troll!

Ol_Doc

You mentioned you wanted to join OWS. You should you have the cheap rhetoric down already.

Ol_Doc: I find it funny how some of my wealthy friends sit around on Facebook all day complaining about lazy people who won't get off their butts and get a job. The only difference between the "hard working" wealthy and the lazy bums is the type and quantity of welfare they receive. The wealthy take it directly from the workers while the poor filter it through the government first. Yet, it's all the same thing, and at least the lazy poor steal less wealth than the lazy rich.

I don't believe in ANYONE sitting around receiving money for nothing, whether they be rich or poor.

Wish I had the time to lounge around that pool, Ol Doc, but I'm too busy putting in 10-12 hr days at my practice and employing my staff. Don't confuse my life with yours or make stupid assumptions.

Having served in the US Armed Forces for over 20 years I could never confuse your life for mine. Nice to see that someone creates jobs though.

Actually, I'm a veteran (retired) myself 5 yrs AD, 20+ in the Air Guard incl. deployments. I guess we have different points of view on economics and politics, but maybe also some things in common.

It's been my experience that once you get beyond the rhetoric, most of us have a lot of things in common.

So I guess you and your staff is the 1%? Raking in millions are they?? If not, how come? I guess you and your staff don't work hard enough. You're lazy.

Russian style Communism died ten years ago and the US style Capitalism will begin its dieing cycle next year. ---- Since the Great American Dream is based on this Fetishzised Hyper Capitalism it will turn into the Great American Nightmare instead.

Both systems are Extremes of the “basic Duality of business/Economics” and will behave according to LaTzu’s 2^nd Premise: “When all the World knows Goodness as good then there is Evil”. (Health lives only in the Middle) Both systems have been strongly believed to be good by the people in countries involved (or ruled) with these economic systems.--- What we are now experiencing is the EVOLUTION of mankind, or as Tom Friedman said: “We are again present at Creation”.

Harry, It is my opinion that the US is now experiencing crony corporate Fascism that is expandin at an exponential rate. The control of the BANKSTERS is simply amazing at controlling 80% of the thought in this country. LOL!

Hi Mac-101, more LOL

The US Country-dumpty fell off the Wall-(street) and all of King Obama’s horses and all of his men can’t put “US Country-dumpty” back together again. --- I am sure however that “some” of his men actually do have good ideas, but King Obama uses these only for his “State of the Union address”, where he never means what he says or says what he means. What he did say was: We need to OUT- INNOVATE, to OUT- EDUCATE, and to OUT- BUILD the rest of the world”. (Never mind that the “US Country-dumpty” had just been downgraded to 5^th place in its “Global Ranking” for innovation.) However, I do have a “Prove of Concept” for the King’s pretended demands, which has cost me “10 engineering-man-years” to accomplish (my 1.5 Million donation), but it can’t wait, because by next year the US will be so short on money that it can’t afford innovations any longer. I wish I could get just one of “King’s men " (E.g. Jeffrey Immelt) to listen to me about “how to put our US Country-dumpty back together again”.

Harry, I hate to tell ya but it is the PLAN to destroy America and eliminate the middle class and have a globla New World Order run by da BANKSTERS.

Hi again Mac-101,

I don't think such a Grandiose plan exists --- it's just Greed and Stupidity with the politicians and the other 1% ters. --- If you realy want to know who is at fault, look closer at home, -- IT'S US ---!

Introduction from a post of Old_Doc #7.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 11:40 AM EST - [for the 1% here]
[ The french revolution tells us that] when a society becomes divided into an aristocracy and commoners, historically the aristocracy seldom sees trouble coming and never seems to understand that their greed is the driving force. Only when their "head is in the guillotine" do they seem to want to compromise, which is of course much too late. We are currently at a tipping point in this country where the aristocracy [the 1% or 2%] has begun demonizing workers, teachers, civil servants, students and the poor. The unemployment rate for returning veterans [well trained for killing] currently exceeds 12%. I suggest you discourage your peers [and yourself] from comments like "Let them eat cake", --- know what I mean?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE “GREAT AMERICAN NIGHTMARE” ---- 9/28/2011
The Economic disaster that is now hitting the US and most of the World is a necessary step for mankind's Noetic-evolution. --- Why? --- I just read, at newswine, that 93% of Americans still believe in “The Great American Dream”. If you are one of those believers you must first be convinced by a painful “US Economical Cataclysm” (and great VIOLENCE) that it cannot be realized, because it is an “extreme case” of a duality and must turn into “The Great American Nightmare” instead . However, if you are in the other 7% bracket you are innocent and will only become “collateral damage” with the same result. --- Sorry about that.
Just say after me: Eli Eli Lama Sabachani?----- My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?
--- Don’t know if I can explain this to you in this short post, but let me try. Consider how this “Dream” got started in the first place. Most immigrants from Europe were “poor peasants” all being subject to the mercy of their powerful Land Barons and the Government suporting those. What lured these peasants to America was a good chance to become land owners themselves and also as rich and powerful as their previous suppressors; basically reversing their status. It’s a complete role reversal and if one side of this duality is considered evil, so is the other. To day, this wishful dream-process has become true for only 1% or 2% of all Americans, namely for the Millionaire stockholders and their CEOs, who are now saying:”Let them eat cake” to all the rest of us who are again being the “suppressed peasants” of old times. We have “recreated” these old times by clinging to our dream-like illusion.

BODHISATTVA (by Dick Suthpen).
The silence is broken by the s-s-wish of the Samurai sword severing illusions - and it rolls across the floor leaving a bloody trail of -- ~--~~-^_~~ -- ~--~~-^_~~ truth

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss....

You have that absolutely right, View. The GRAND PUTIN is intent on being President again, right after Medvedev's term. The unfortunate part is that the protests only consist of hundreds, rather than thousands. When Russian people appeared in Moscow by the masses at the time that Gorbachev was potentially on his way out at the time the Soviet Union collapsed financially, Boris Yeltsin made his mark as a pro-democracy leader appearing in Red Square (I believe) and directing the protests, trying to keep them peaceful at the same time There were so many people that the military REFUSED to fire upon them to quell the uprising. Yeltsin did his share of dirty work as well, allowing his cohorts to help themselves to Russia's assets. When Yeltsin turned the "keys to Russia" over to Putin, Putin promised, in his "oath of office" to govern Russia 'OPENLY AND HONESTLY." We all know how long that lasted--until the sub, Irkutsk's, accident and the bickering that ensued regarding whose fault it was, and the session with the submariners' families which was covered by the media. That was basically the end of the fledgling free press and the ability of the people to voice their opinion openly. It was an embarrassment to Putin, and there was no way he would let THAT happen again. Since then, there were over 20 journalists murdered, journalists who dared to criticize Putin's regime, who tried to bring out the truth and change to give Russian people more of a voice. Whether men or women, it didn't matter. They were shot in front of their homes, in elevators, in the head or in the chest or even in the back.

Many people died trying to bring about change. And since the article states that grumbling over the internet is hard to control, enough news, then, reaches enough people to keep them somewhat informed about their government. If there is a big enough crowd, they all can't be put into prison and they HAVE to be heard. When Putin planned on either curtailing or freezing retirement benefits a while back, the retirees appeared in droves and made enough noise that prompted Putin to quickly scrap that plan. The fact that so few appeared now to protest the elections would lead one to believe that the people are not yet unhappy enough with the meager voice they have been given. As long as that is true, there WILL NOT be any marked change, and there certainly won't be any "Russian spring" any time soon. Police will still demand bribes because someone's "papers weren't in order." Small businesses will still have an extremely difficult time when someone in 'authority' shows up to collect protection money to protect the business from being targeted by criminals. They still will be assessed 'taxes' that are claimed to be unpaid and perhaps imprisoned for them, just as Khardokovsky was. The people still won't be able to speak freely and assemble in protest without being imprisoned for being traitors to Russia. People will still have to pay someone under the table to give them a job. Charities still won't receive products that may have been donated without some shoestring minister getting his cut first. And there certainly won't be any fair trials any time soon, no matter how many attorneys go on hunger strikes and die therefrom trying to get their client a fair trial. Nope. As long as Russian people are still willing to accept all of this, and more, nothing will change except perhaps for the worst. And if many think that Communism is still the answer, well, then they will get more than what they bargained for.

Great post Tess84,

Many business people have left Russia, because these "Government protected Gangsters" robbing large and small business blind.

Soviet Communism and US Hyper Capitalism are one and the same, because they are extremes of polarities --- they are extremes of Dualities about which LaoTzu's second Premise states: "When all the World knows Goodness as good, then there is Evil." --- Then what is a workable solution? --- The answer is disappointingly simple --- "Health lives only in the Middle!"

THE “GREAT AMERICAN NIGHTMARE” 9/28/2011
The Economic disaster that is now hitting the US and most of the World is a necessary step for mankind's Noetic-evolution. --- Why? --- I just read, at newswine, that 93% of Americans still believe in “The Great American Dream”. If you are one of those believers you must first be convinced by a painful “US Economical Cataclysm” (and great VIOLENCE) that it cannot be realized, because it is an “extreme case” of a duality and must turn into “The Great American Nightmare” instead . However, if you are in the 7% bracket you are innocent and will only become “collateral damage” with the same result. Sorry about that.

( Just say after me: - Eli Eli Lama Sabachani? )

Don’t know if I can explain this to you in this short post, but let me try. Consider how this “Dream” got started in the first place. Most immigrants from Europe were “poor peasants” all being subject to the mercy of their powerful Land Barons and the Government suporting those. What lured these peasants to America was a good chance to become a land owners themselves and also as rich and powerful as their previous suppressors; basically reversing their status. It’s a complete role reversal and if one side of this duality is considered evil, so is the other. To day, this wishful dream-process has become true for only 2% or 3% of all Americans, namely for the Millionaire stockholders and their CEOs. All the rest of us are now again the “suppressed peasants” of old times. We have “recreated” these times again by clinging to our dream-like illusion.

BODHISATTVA (by Dick Suthpen).
The silence is broken by the s-s-wish of the Samurai sword severing illusions - and it rolls across the floor leaving a bloody trail of -- ~--~~-^_~~ -- ~--~~-^_~~ truth

Even the Tea Baggers??

Especially the Tea Baggers!!!

Especially everyone. Please don't divide. We need to stand together to get these things done.

We need to stop rooting for our own parties of choice and start recognizing that they're ALL worthless. By dividing into parties, no one ever holds more than half the government accountable for anything.

Really, I think we need to remove the $money$ from government service. Becoming a Senator or Congressman is a step into the seat of power and a big boost to the pocketbook. Lets remove those incentives. Remove all lobbiests and lobbying, freeze all assests of elected officials so they can't trade the stock they voted on or buy and sell that land, making them do public speaking engagments for free. Make them live off the salary they recieve.

If monks can relenquish worldly possesions in service of God, Why can't polliticians do the same in service of their countrymen?

Let's send "Jeffrey Immelt" to Russia for helping Putin with his Capitalism!

AN OPEN LETTER TO “JEFFREY IMMELT”, THE MAN IN CHARGE OF THE FAILING US-ECONOMY!
Since you accepted this position from the President month ago no one has heard from you again, why? --- Where are you? – Are you in Hawaii creating “the massage capital of the world,” --- I hope not, because the US Economy is now totally in shambles! --- None of us 99% -ers has heard anything from you about this or seen even an outline for a rescue-plan for what needs to be done! What do we 99% have to do Jeffrey to get your attention? The American people (not just your stockholders) have a right to hear from YOU who was given the power and responsibility to restore our economy. “Larry Summers” never did his job or took responsibility. He just made Millions for himself by giving speeches to Industry. --- Damn him, --- are you made of the same stuff? – Maybe not, at least the President thought you to be more a man of action who gets “things” done. Your fame, Jeffrey, is based on being the best 20th century Capitalistic CEO, but that is a quality which will not save our country, instead it will ruin it. As I said in the next paper on an economic solution: “putting a famous CEO in charge of the US economy is like: --- “putting a fox in charge of the hen house”. --- It’s a death-sentence for our country ---
Why is that? -- Because your thinking and your actions have been honed to perfection inside the
“Box of 20th century Capitalism” which has certainly benefited GE and pleased your stockholders, but it helped to throw at least 45% of Americans into poverty. --- The trouble is that nothing in that “20th century economic box” of yours can save our country in a 21st century Global economy. The present US Hyper-Capitalism must perish the same way that Soviet Communism did years ago. Basically that is what all these World-wide 99% OWS demonstrations are all about. (Don’t blame the demonstrators for not knowing this, because neither do you! -- You need the help from University Professors who have thought and written about this NEW kind of GLOBAL economy. (Prof. Peter Morici and Prof. Joseph Stiglitz come to mind, but there must be others.)
What needs to be done (yesterday) is to generate and publish a good rescue-plan for two reasons. The first is, to provide you with “Plausible Deniability”; showing that it wasn’t you who failed, because any such workable plan will certainly be instantly rejected by the Washington politicians. --- Second, a good workable plan will give our “People “hope” in a time when “Marshal-law” needs to be declared to prevent massive mayhem across the country. The 99% want to hear about your Rescue PLAN Jeffrey. Without such plan, you will have no alibi to avoid the BLAME in the eyes of the general public for letting our country to be run into the ground. (Is that how you want history to remember you?) You accepted this job from the President Jeffrey: --- Now Do it --- Damn it!
In another post I will present a workable plan which was generated from ideas of two people. First from Prof. A.N. Christensen at the “Harvard Business School”, the other from my own work as “Member of Technical Staff” with Bell Laboratories. I worked on it for “10 engineering man years” (on my own). --- Unfortunately, both of us have a terminal illness, --- cancer for Christensen and heart failure for me. (Therefore it’s YOU who will have to do most of the work.)

Here are five quotes from knowledgeable business leaders predicting the US future (in 2007)
-------- Any “RESCUE-PLAN” must address all these issues and more and SOLVE THEM:------

Jack Gifford, CEO of Maxim Inc: “… an increasing number of design engineering jobs are moving overseas. If this trend of the past 10 years continues over the next years, the U.S. will lose its position of technical leadership in the World. America’s high standard of living, brought about by technological innovation, will cede to Asia. The lack of growth in our engineering schools, the result of tepid demand, is symptomatic of the problem.”
Brian Halla, National Semiconductor “We are in the most disruptive, the most exciting, the most dangerous period since any of us was born. It's all about the new industrial revolution. ...if our politicians have their way, the great American dream will move to Shanghai.”
Craig Barrett, Chairman of Intel: “--- the United States is losing its edge over other nations in education, technology and research and development. For example, well-educated engineers from China, India and Russia are competing with the United States for jobs " Question: What do you think the U.S. industry of the 21st century is going to be? --- “Agriculture!" he said. "We're sending our workers into the marketplace with a disadvantage: their education”.
Prof. Ben G. Streetman, dean of the College of Engineering, University of Texas, and member of the National Academy of Engineering gives another dire prediction. He writes: “Every year, we’re educating about half the number of engineers that the country needs and importing the rest. --- “That’s a prescription for going out of business as a country.”
Jeffrey Immelt CEO of GE …"More people will graduate in the United States in 2006 with sports-exercise degrees than electrical-engineering degrees,". "So, if we want to be the massage capital of the world, we're well on our way."

How about this G White?

---- Has any major political change EVER happened without VIOLENCE? -----

Unemployment is now over 15%, (real total, over 40 Million?) and it will soon out number the National Guard and the regular Army --- and these will not shoot at their own families and other civilians anyways --- ( Only the, totally out numbered, “Police” might do so initially, (but will be hunted down by street Gangs in the end)

If nothing is being done by the Federal Government to help the 45% of American families that are now close to starving and freezing to death this winter, the US union will break-up and the Federal politicians will try to flee the country. The ones who are a little late for that will be hung on the many tall street lamps circling the Washington Beltway. It’s an ancient tradition of the Roman Empire, but then they had to use tall trees on the streets leading to Rome. (What a great photo opportunity for the news media?) The “States” will then be run by Street and Country-gangs, which you might have to join to feed your family. (Buy some more ammunition for your gun, if you can spare the money.) Most of the readers here have never seen REAL violence, which is apparently needed to bring about any significant Change and Justice for our country.

---- Has any major political change EVER happened without VIOLENCE? -----

Unemployment is now over 15%, (real total, over 40 Million?) and it will soon out number the National Guard and the regular Army --- and these will not shoot at their own families and other civilians anyways --- ( Only the, totally out numbered, “Police” might do so initially, (but will be hunted down by street Gangs in the end)

If nothing is being done by the Federal Government to help the 45% of American families that are now close to starving and freezing to death this winter, the US union will break-up and the Federal politicians will try to flee the country. The ones who are a little late for that will be hung on the many tall street lamps circling the Washington Beltway. It’s an ancient tradition of the Roman Empire, but then they had to use tall trees on the streets leading to Rome. (What a great photo opportunity for the news media?) The “States” will then be run by Street and Country-gangs, which you might have to join to feed your family. (Buy some more ammunition for your gun, if you can spare the money.) Most of the readers here have never seen REAL violence, which is apparently needed to bring about any significant Change and Justice for our country.

Why was the Russian uprising called the Russian "Arab Spring? --- Here is a copy of the part of Tom Friedman's article about the reasons for the Arab Uprisings. You might see why it fits the Russian cause better than the OWS.

Let’s start with the Middle East, the world’s oil tap. Libyans just joined Tunisians, Egyptians and Yemenis in ousting their dictator, while Syrians and Iranians hope to soon follow suit. In time, virtually every Middle East autocrat will be deposed or forced to share power. The old model can’t hold. That model was based on kings and military dictators capturing the oil revenue, ensconcing themselves in power — protected by well-financed armies and security services — and buying off key segments of their populations. That lid has been blown off by an Arab youth bulge that today can see just how everyone else is living and is no longer ready to accept being behind, undereducated, unemployed, humiliated and powerless. But while this old Middle East system — based on an iron fist and a fistful of petro-dollars holding together multiethnic/multireligious societies — has broken down, it will take time for these societies to write their own social contracts for how to live together without an iron fist from above. Hope for the best, prepare for anything.

Either we see at least a small shift in the distribution of power and wealth, or many lives will be lost.

Seriously? The problems that we face will all be solved if we just take some money from the wealthy? We really are in trouble if that is what people think will solve problems, or is even the cause of our problems. Good Lord.

And again with the threat of lives being lost. That's the best solution anyone can come up with? Give us what we want, or we'll kill you? I am seriously wondering if Darwin had it wrong, when I read statements like that.

I think you misread Darwin. "The fittest" does not mean best educated, best dressed, most socially aware, etc. It simply implies best able to adapt to a changing environment. When a society becomes divided into an aristocracy and commoners, historically the aristocracy seldom sees trouble coming and never seems to understand that their greed is the driving force. Only when their "head is in the guillotine" do they seem to want to compromise, which is of course much too late. We are currently at a tipping point in this country where the aristocracy has begun demonizing workers, teachers, civil servants, students and the poor. The unemployment rate for returning veterans currently exceeds 12%. I suggest you discourage your peers from comments like "Let them eat cake", know what I mean?

Yes William Demuth,

-------- What is the SIGNIFICANCE of these Word-wide OWS demonstrations?------
Here are the Prophetic words by Tom Friedman, the famous journalist with “The New York Times” ::
“Now let me say that in English: the European Union is cracking up. The Arab world is cracking up. China’s growth model is under pressure and America’s credit-driven capitalist model has suffered a warning [major] heart attack and needs a total rethink. Recasting any one of these alone would be huge. Doing all four at once — when the world has never been more interconnected - is mind-boggling.
--- We are again present at the creation - but of what?

-------- [ Never in the history of modern man has such a global event ever happened ] -----

As for America, we’ve thrived in recent decades with a “credit-consumption-led economy”, whereby we maintained a middle class by using more steroids (easy credit, subprime mortgages and construction work) and less muscle-building (education, skill-building and innovation). It’s put us in a deep hole, and the only way to dig out now is a new, hybrid politics that mixes spending cuts, tax increases, tax reform and investments in infrastructure, education, research [innovation] and production. But that mix is not the agenda of either party. Either our two parties find a way to collaborate in the center around this new hybrid politics, or a third party is going to emerge
-------— or we’re stuck and the pain will just get worse”.

[ Of the three demanded activities, education, skill-building and innovation, –- none is financially or otherwise supported by our present Government. --- This omission is an act of National-suicide.]

Excellent post Ol_Doc. I just made a copy, because this whole OWS-uprising is a part of Noetic Evolution of mankind. You are right; this "Survival of the fittest" is misleading. It does not tell us "fit for what?"

I believe the "fit for what" issue is up to us as a society. Unfortunately "we as a society" is becoming an obsolete concept. As we no longer feel the need to rely on each other and begin to resemble a gathering of lone wolves rather than a pack. A pack will identify and follow an alpha male. A group of lone wolves will tear each other apart until a pecking order is established. The reestablishment of the "alpha male/female" would likely resemble he/she with the most charisma and guns (the weak would die whether rich or poor).

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Ol DOc, I generally enjoy your writtings, however, the TRIBE will arise as soon as the system collapses. Lone Wolves will be hunted down and put down when they encrouch upon the new tribes as they form. Like the ole West. Their never was a shortage of people willin to join a possie to go after the bad guys who screwed over the little people.

Old_Doc and Mac-101,

Both of your predictions will be a "bloody Mayhem" of violence. Thank God I will not be around to experience that. --- I am 77 years old with a heart condition. --- I'll watch the mess from the other side!

Harry, ya better be plannin on crokin in the next two years then. Because they are takin down this country faster than we can imagine. Git and stay right with G-d. Peace Out! .

That is exactly what he was saying, between the lines, when he warned of any outside interference. That he knew the election would be rigged. And he did not want any other country siding with the people. Giving them false hope when they rallied to denounce him. I guess the, no room to throw stones, US government wasn't listening again. So now when the tanks limp across Russia he can blame everyone else for putting crazy unwarranted ideas in the minds of his beloved crushed people!

Stay tuned for Putin on the ritz in Russia.

Don't make too many assumptions Demuth, Esperanza may be a freaking gun toting psychopath; her post was fairly scary.

華人民主論壇 <== facebook groups hrmzlt

China is moving toward democracy... Leave those Chinese people alone.

Really. I suppose if protests break out in Dublin we would have Irish Spring. At least that would smell better.

Evil Business Owner

That was very funny I must say.

double LOL comment

no, please explain the parallel. It's always more comforting and understandable when someone condescends down their nose to me. Just gives me the warm fuzzies, really. I'm sure when you're done I'll understand better than I do now, because everyone likes being talked down to.

I agree with Eric. Please enlighten us with OWS wisdom. We are hungry for the truth.

Fear not my friend, the truth will eventually embrace you.

The only thing I fear is fear itself. See, I can channel a Roosevelt too.

The opposition in American is similar to Russia? You mean they are filled with skinheads who want to execute or kick out anyone they consider non-flood blooded Slavic, beat darken skin people on the street and as opposition leader said call for full scale nuclear attack against the U.S. If those are the type people you support go ahead i personal don't want Russia to be ruled by racist.

Me: Can I try without being condescending?

Eric: Yes give it a go.

Me: Thanks, while I don't agree that we are in the same desperate position that many of the people uprising around the world are. I view OWS as a buffer, a way to avoid the desperate situation that, in my opinion, is sure to come upon us if we do not change some fundemental flaws in our system. We can't maintain our present coarse and hope that our future and our childrens future will be as prosporous as our current America. I am sure we can agree that the 60's and 70's were the pinnacle of success and prosperity for the average American and since that point, while yes, we do have a higher GDP and there are more top level Americans, the situation for the majority or middle class is quite different and changing as we speak. I see the parallel here is that people are saying that our economic and political systmes need to benefit the majority not a select few. If you'de like me to explain what I believe are the systemic issues and what the solutions would be, I'd be happy to try.

Read the posts by Ol_Doc for the reasons of the OWS demonstration all around the World! A U.S. society wanting to get wealthy by gambling on the Stock-market --- IS SICKNES of Capitalism. Let's see if you understand this:

These World-wide demonstrations confirm my long time hope for advancement or Noetic evolution of human-kind. (Ask for my paper on “Evolutionary Spirituality”) This quote by Iain Banks is the basic reason for these OWS demonstrations World wide. --- I am sure about that, but I must admit that I don’t quite understand every single argument Iain Banks is making. --- Years ago, the British author Iain Banks had this to say about our Capitalistic Culture drivren by corporate greed; he wrote:

"Let me state here a personal conviction that appears, right now, to be profoundly unfashionable; which is that a planned economy can be more productive - and more morally desirable - than one left to market forces. The market is a good example of evolution in action; the try-everything-and-see-what-works approach. This might provide a perfectly morally satisfactory resource-management system so long as there was absolutely no question of any sentient creature ever being treated purely as one of those resources. The market, for all its (profoundly inelegant) complexities, remains a crude and essentially blind system, and is - without the sort of drastic amendments liable to cripple the economic efficacy which is its greatest claimed asset - intrinsically incapable of distinguishing between simple non-use of matter resulting from processal superfluity [surplus] and the acute, prolonged and wide-spread suffering of conscious beings.
It is, arguably, in the elevation of this profoundly mechanistic (and in that sense perversely innocent) [capitalistic] system to a position above all other moral, philosophical and political values and considerations that humankind displays most convincingly both its present intellectual immaturity and - through grossly pursued selfishness (rather than the applied hatred of others) a kind of synthetic evil."

These World-wide demonstrations confirm my long time hope for advancement or Noetic evolution of human-kind. (Ask for my paper on “Evolutionary Spirituality”) This quote by Iain Banks is the basic reason for these OWS demonstrations World wide. --- I am sure about that, but I must admit that I don’t quite understand every single argument Iain Banks is making. --- Years ago, the British author Iain Banks had this to say about our Capitalistic Culture drivren by corporate greed; he wrote:

"Let me state here a personal conviction that appears, right now, to be profoundly unfashionable; which is that a planned economy can be more productive - and more morally desirable - than one left to market forces. The market is a good example of evolution in action; the try-everything-and-see-what-works approach. This might provide a perfectly morally satisfactory resource-management system so long as there was absolutely no question of any sentient creature ever being treated purely as one of those resources. The market, for all its (profoundly inelegant) complexities, remains a crude and essentially blind system, and is - without the sort of drastic amendments liable to cripple the economic efficacy which is its greatest claimed asset - intrinsically incapable of distinguishing between simple non-use of matter resulting from processal superfluity [surplus] and the acute, prolonged and wide-spread suffering of conscious beings.
It is, arguably, in the elevation of this profoundly mechanistic (and in that sense perversely innocent) [capitalistic] system to a position above all other moral, philosophical and political values and considerations that humankind displays most convincingly both its present intellectual immaturity and - through grossly pursued selfishness (rather than the applied hatred of others) a kind of synthetic evil."

ChicagoK, the worst rated president in U.S. history is now an ex-president!

What, did you not notice that we have not had any new disastrously planned and executed wars or national emergencies in the past 3 years, and that by all expert accounts we staved off a possible depression or worse recession with careful and responsible, pragmatic policy?

Why not slink back into your Fox-hole, evil-spirited malcontent? Your side ran this country for a long time, ran it into the ground, and that's that, now please be quiet. Whiner.

The Obama phenomenon.
August 18, 2011 Obama: “The Affirmative Action President”, By Matt Patterson (columnist - Washington Post, New York Post, San Francisco Examiner) .

Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job? .
Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer"; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as legislator.And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor"; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal:To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass. .
Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass -- held to a lower standard -- because of the color of his skin. Podhoretz continues:And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) "non-threatening," all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest? .
Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon -- affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves. .
Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don't care if these minority students fail; liberals aren't around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin -- that's affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn't racism, then nothing is. And that is what America did to Obama. .
True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois ; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary. What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks? .
In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama's oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people -- conservatives included -- ought now to be deeply embarrassed. The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that's when he has his teleprompter in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth -- it's all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years. .
And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly? .
In short: our president is a small and small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office. .
But hey, at least we got to feel good about ourselves for a little while. And really, isn't that all that matters

Your statement is bunk. Abraham Lincoln failed at many of his endeavors before become the greatest president of the U.S. George W Bush failed at many of his endeavors and became one of the worst presidents of the U.S.

President George W Bush started a war of choice with faulty information, caused thousands of American's and Iraqi's and others to die, did it on a credit card, thus wrecking the American economy. President Barak Obama accomplished more with one speech at the University of Cairo which preceded the Arab spring. Had President Bush left Saddam Hussien alone, Saddam would have taken care of Osama Bin Laden himself as soon as Al-Quida tried to enter Iraq. Trust me, he would have found a quicker and easier way to do it with all his Arab madmen. The goal of each of these men was to be the supreme leader of the middle east, they hated each other. Then the people of Iraq would have done to Hussien what the people of Tunisia, Egypt, Lybia and now Syria are doing to their leaders. Just one speech by President Obama at the University of Cairo. Look it up.

Aime Casavant:

Your comments are very entertaining, but false. President Obama is a joke in the Arab World
- he is not taken seriously. Does anyone? The so-called ‘Arab Spring’ has zero to do with anything or person from the
USA.

The USA had spent over $1.5 Billion so far in Libya and the amount may keep increasing…

That the opposition protesters who like Stalin and want his policy's back.

Yeah 2012 is not going to be a good year.People are getting fed up with the Politics and Politicians and these so called religions..The World is ripe for a mass destruction/Disaster..

You both are so absolutely correct........

there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation

even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

it's true . things written 1000's of years ago. coming true ! things we never saw before coming true at this time of age !!

Hi TKC-,

---- Has any major political change EVER happened without VIOLENCE? -----

Unemployment is now over 15%, (real total, over 40 Million?) and it will soon out number the National Guard and the regular Army --- and these will not shoot at their own families and other civilians anyways --- ( Only the, totally out numbered, “Police” might do so initially, (but will be hunted down by street Gangs in the end)

If nothing is being done by the Federal Government to help the 45% of American families that are now close to starving and freezing to death this winter, the US union will break-up and the Federal politicians will try to flee the country. The ones who are a little late for that will be hung on the many tall street lamps circling the Washington Beltway. It’s an ancient tradition of the Roman Empire, but then they had to use tall trees on the streets leading to Rome. (What a great photo opportunity for the news media?) The “States” will then be run by Street and Country-gangs, which you might have to join to feed your family. (Buy some more ammunition for your gun, if you can spare the money.) Most of the readers here have never seen REAL violence, which is apparently needed to bring about any significant Change and Justice for our country.

---- Has any major political change EVER happened without VIOLENCE? -----

Unemployment is now over 15%, (real total, over 40 Million?) and it will soon out number the National Guard and the regular Army --- and these will not shoot at their own families and other civilians anyways --- ( Only the, totally out numbered, “Police” might do so initially, (but will be hunted down by street Gangs in the end)

If nothing is being done by the Federal Government to help the 45% of American families that are now close to starving and freezing to death this winter, the US union will break-up and the Federal politicians will try to flee the country. The ones who are a little late for that will be hung on the many tall street lamps circling the Washington Beltway. It’s an ancient tradition of the Roman Empire, but then they had to use tall trees on the streets leading to Rome. (What a great photo opportunity for the news media?) The “States” will then be run by Street and Country-gangs, which you might have to join to feed your family. (Buy some more ammunition for your gun, if you can spare the money.) Most of the readers here have never seen REAL violence, which is apparently needed to bring about any significant Change and Justice for our country.

Exactly, the only parties to gain ground were the Communist Party, Just Russia which is socialistic and the LDP with is ultranationalistic. The population certainly didn’t vote for prowestern groups like Yakblo, which couldn’t go above 3% or Right Cause which is a coalition made up of what’s left of the Yelstenists and got ~.6%, less of the vote than what one of its founding parties gained last time. Given the Duma’s new makeup United Russia, esp Medvedev’s faction is actually more moderate than its opposition. If Russia is having a “Spring” it’s just like Egypt’s: antiwestern groups, in this case the communists and ultranationalists have been the only winners. The media and McCain cheering commies along does nothing to change that.

Zhirinovsky also called for full scale nuclear attack on the U.S and the other opposition called for ethnic cleansging.

Mescovic212

The Whole world wants to see the USA gone..Really Russia is no different.USA is like a Hungry Lion devouring those who oppose it..