Tens of thousands of Russians are protesting alleged voter fraud after parliamentary elections, and President Vladimir Putin is their main target. NBC's Stephanie Gosk reports.
Tens of thousands of people took to the streets across Russia Saturday to demand an end to Vladimir Putin's rule and a rerun of a parliamentary election in the biggest opposition protests since he rose to power more than a decade ago.
Protesters waved banners such as "The rats should go!" and "Swindlers and thieves - give us our elections back!" in cities from the Pacific port of Vladivostok in the east to Kaliningrad in the west, nearly 7,400 km away.
Riot police were out in force with dogs and in trucks, but they did little to douse protests that showed a groundswell of discontent with Putin as he prepares to reclaim the presidency next year, and anger over the December 4 election which the opposition says was rigged to favor his United Russia party.
"Today 60,000, maybe 100,000 people, have come to this rally," former prime minister Mikhail Kasyanov said in a speech to flag-waving and chanting protesters packed into Bolotnaya Square across the Moscow River from the Kremlin.
"This means today is the beginning of the end for these thieving authorities," said Kasyanov, who now leads an opposition movement which was barred from the election.
People of all ages gathered in Moscow, many carrying white carnations as the symbol of their protest and some waving pictures of Putin and President Dmitry Medvedev declaring: "Guys, it's time to go." Helicopters at times buzzed overhead.
Vladimir Ryzhkov, an opposition leader, read out a list of demands including annulling the election and holding a new one, registering opposition parties, dismissing the election commission head and freeing people the protesters call political prisoners.
"Russia has changed today -- the future has changed," he said, urging demonstrators to come out for new protests on December 24. The crowd chanted, "We'll be back!"
But Konstantin Kosachyov, a United Russia lawmaker authorized to speak on behalf of the Kremlin, ruled out negotiations on the organizers' demands and said: "With all respect for the people who came out to protest, they are not a political party."
By 6:11 p.m. local time, most of the crowd had dispersed and peacefully ended their protest in Moscow, according to the Moscow Times.
Mass protests
The rallies, many of them held in freezing snow, were a test of the opposition's ability to turn public anger into a mass protest movement on the scale of the Arab Spring rebellions that brought down rulers in the Middle East and North Africa.
Most Russian political experts say the former KGB spy who has dominated the world's largest energy producer for 12 years is in little immediate danger of being toppled and that protests are hard to keep going across such a vast country.
But they say Putin's authority has been badly damaged and may gradually fade away when he returns as president unless he answers demands ranging from holding fair elections to reducing the huge gap between rich and poor.
Thousands of anti-voting fraud demonstrators turn out in the streets of Moscow, Russia, to voice their displeasure over recent elections. NBC's Stephanie Gosk reports.
"The time has come to throw off the chains," one of the main opposition figures, blogger Alexei Navalny, said in a message sent from jail following his arrest in a protest in Monday.
"We are not cattle or slaves. We have a voice and we have the strength to defend it," he said in the message, which drew cheers when it was read out from the stage by Oleg Kashin, an opposition journalist.
Protests on such a big scale were unthinkable before last Sunday's election, in which Putin's United Russia won a vastly reduced, slim majority in the lower house.
But in a sign that the Kremlin has started to sense the change of mood, most of Saturday's rallies were approved by city authorities hoping to avoid violence. State television showed footage of the protests - but no direct criticism of Putin.
From east and west Russia
Invited by messages sent on social media, people protested in dozens of cities such as Vladivostok, Novosibirsk in Siberia, Arkhangelsk in the Arctic north, in Kaliningrad and St Petersburg in the west, and in the Karelia region near Finland.
Police broke up an unapproved protest by about 400 people in Kurgan, on Russia's border with Kazakhstan, and at least 20 were detained in Khabarovsk near Russia's border with China, Russian news agencies said. Ten were held in St Petersburg, police said.
In Moscow, people of all ages gathered, many wearing white armbands or carrying white carnations they said were the symbols of their protest. "Putin must go," read a big banner in the midst of the crowd.
"This is history in the making for Russia. The people are coming out to demand justice for the first time in two decades, justice in the elections," said Anton, 41, a financial services sector employee who gave only his first name. He wore a white ribbon he said symbolized dissent.
"I want new elections, not a revolution," said Ernst Kryavitsky, 75, a retired electrician dressed in a long brown coat and hat against the falling snow.
At least 100 trucks of riot police were parked near the Kremlin and columns of police trucks drove around the capital. Police put the number of protesters at around 25,000, and organizers said it was up to 150,000.
Medvedev has denied the allegations of fraud in the election. Putin has accused the United States of encouraging and financing the protesters.
Falling popularity
The protesters were mainly angered by the election, in which they say only cheating prevented United Russia's result being worse. International monitors also said the ruling party had an unfair advantage and that they had evidence of ballot-stuffing.
Putin, 59, remains Russia's most popular leader in opinion polls, and has dominated the country under a political system in which power revolves around him. Far from all Russians wanted to take to the streets to protest.
"We think all these rallies, they're not right, because you need to work for justice in legal ways," said Lyudmila Mashenko, owner of a small business walking with her grandson in Moscow.
Some protesters want new elections but still back Putin.
"I came here today mainly to say that I don't agree with the result of election," the manager of an IT company in St Petersburg who gave her name only as Dasha.
But Putin has seen his support - won by restoring order after the chaos of the 1990s following the collapse of the Soviet Union - slip in opinion polls.
Many Russians felt disenfranchised in September when he and Medvedev announced plans to swap jobs after the presidential election and said they had taken the decision years ago.
Reuters contributed to this report.
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Go for it, honest people who are tired of corruption.... Occupy Russia.
Feel free to go over.
Siara, what do you know? Occupy Russia my arss!
Unlimited democracy creates a ruler ship of the majority over any individual.
The United States was created as a Representative Democracy with the US Constitution specifically created to protect the individual citizens from tyrannies.
Just days ago the US GOP lead Congress passed and sent to the Whitehouse for President Obama’s signature a bill that circumvents The Fourth Amendment’s guarantee to US citizens the right to a fair and speed trial, the right to an attorney, the right to face his accuser.
If President Obama signs this legislation into law, the Congress has given not only our current president, but all presidents elected in the future the legal ability to with only the simple accusation of supporting terrorism, to order any individual US citizen held without attorney, without releasing the specific accusation, without trial, and will keep his accuser clocked in secrecy for as long as the current president desires to do so.
Support of terrorism as being defined as any shape or form, by accident or intention.
One of the only seven dissenting votes, Republican Rand Paul of Kentucky verbally listed just a few of the suspect reasons for being a possible terrorist on this legislation … to be having fingers missing from your hands, owning guns, and gun powder … the full list includes almost every citizen in the United States in one form or another.
It is sickening to see the Cowards in Congress cower under their desk anytime just the word terrorism is spoken, given the number of US Service members bravery to give their very lives as these Cowardly US Congressmen who haven’t even had so much as a paper cut during the entire 10 plus years of both the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicte pass such utterly UN-American Cowardly legislation.
Cowards, Deviants, Inside traders, rewarding failed Bankers with bonuses, repealing banking regulations that created the banking demise, housing bust, millions unemployed, a bankrupt America wiping their very large butts with the US Constitution..
Gutless cowards all save seven.
All over the world, people are protesting the tyranny of bank-funded oligarchical rule. In other words, people are tired of being ripped off and defrauded. Why is it so hard to simply play by honest rules, one person (human person) one vote? Look to a world wide occupation.
And the banks are so crooked globally that they are bringing down all of Europe and govts are demanding that the people be punished by making them pay more and more.
Russia.
Protesters? They are being locked in jail; no one will hear/disappear from them ever again.
Siberia is a nice vacation place for jailed, free speakers in Russia.
It is still the USSR. Union of Soviet Socialist Republic; just ask the Beatles!
Putin?---maybe the world will see more porn photography he so proudly displays in the Media.
During the build up to Putins election, Hillary publicly said that US tax dollars were being spent in Russia to influence the country of Russias election. Why is our money being used to try and rig other country's elections? When she was unsuccessful with the results she cried that those elections were rigged. Even Cain jumped in. What the heck is going on? Why can't we just use our tax dollars to pay off the our debt to communist china?
@let me explain. Well said!! Wake up Americans. Protect what your founders created for you!
I absolutely love this. I wonder if Putin remembers the last time Russians got this mad. Think Joseph Stalin, V.I. Lenin, etc. The thing is, the US is next. We have completely lost control of our country to large corporations and lobbyists. The election means nothing - just the 2 candidates the companies allow you to choose from. Our fake democracy is a bought-out joke now. But how could anyone expect that there would only ever be just one American revolution? What country in all of history has that been true for? Corruption always takes over, then there is a purging. The second amendment was written in the shadow of a successful violent revolution against a corrupt abusive government. What do you think they were actually thinking of when they so emphatically gave you the right to bear arms?
Siara, please do not associate this with the pathetic displays of spoiled college children and vagrants all across the US. The Russian people are unified, unlike the so-called 99%, and they have a very specific purpose.
DO NOT compare these men and women, who risk their lives, to a bunch of lazy children engaged in nothing more than a vain attempt to engage in 'activism'. Those lucky enough to have been born in the States have no clue what true oppression really is.
GO smoke a joint.
At least the Russian protesters dress nice.
Raisa You are so right on. OWS has no clue what oppression is. After each protest they go home and watch their 52" TV to see if they made the news, all the time siping their Stabucks and texting on their I Phone.
IMO Democracy gives us all the right to succeed and fail. Under that scenario some will succeed and some will fail. The gap between the successful and failures has widened. Democracy gives the right to protest to the failures. So where is the news? It is the same theme everywhere.
I must be an enigma. I am not in the 1%, I wish I were. But I am probably upper middle class. Under the guidelines of all these protesters, I don't exist.
So where can I get the joint?
Putin is a fool, he should realize that this situation will not end well for him. Instead of continuing to pursue power in Russia; he should take his considerable wealth buy a villa in the south of France get a nice Rolls Royce convertible and live the good life.
The photo is staged - the woman screaming in the picture is my ex Mother-in-Law. She got a job with an Agency to do lots of this sort of work. Seems seedy to me but, hey, in this economy a job's a job.
LME, you can have a representative democracy that still overpowers the minority. The term you meant is "liberal democracy."
You know this is Russia and they will handle their own problems. How about fixing America..jobs..Housing..Unions..Election Fraud here!
It is best that the Russian people not protest too much. I do believe there are still quite a few kilos of polonium in the arsenal for political enemies.
LAR:
A lot of the OWS Protesters do come from Upper Class families, including wealthy ones.
It is many of these people who have had life/material goods come so easily for them, they do not know what the real world is about.
They have nothing else to do--their parents have doled out $$$ to them, without working, and made life too easy--so they have to "B----tch" about something. On the perchtop of a tree like a Bluebird.
The others in the OWS demonstrations are plain bums--the freeloaders. It looks like they all are--
Let's send our Occutards to Russia. That would be a good place for them!
And the majority of Tea Partiers accusing OWS of wanting handouts steal my money ever month for Social Security and Medicare, Hawaii. They're throwing stones in a glass house.
Again, the "Russian" people deserve a lot of credit; they are actually standing up for what they believe in.
"We the People" of the United States, on the other hand, have "diarrhea of the mouth". The majority of people today only complain but DO nothing to change their situation.
I give everyone involved in the OWS and ANONYMOUS movements a lot of credit as well, they are the "new dynamic" in our American culture; they actually have the "balls" to DO something.
"Give me your tired, your poor... Send all your homeless... to me..."
I will absorb them into our nation of millions of already tired, poor and homeless citizens.
Send me your wretched refuse, illegal immigrants, so they can scoff at our laws.
Send all these to me so that together we can feign our equality and become servants of the rich.
America needs to have its own ARAB SPRING.
You cited the reasons we are in the mess. Too many sitting on their butts waiting for someone to pay their way. Then you demonetize those that made it. You scoff at hard work. Since when did success become evil? Only when those taking want to take more.
That's actually one thing I really like about European countries, they are not afraid to make their opinions known. They hold their leaders and law-makers responsible. When a bad law or policy is passed, they respond en mass, almost immediately. So, good for Russia. They may not get their way, but at least they are showing they refuse to be bullied around.
No one is scoffing at success and hard work, if that's your take, maybe you need to look at the movement without bias. OWS is but a small part of disenfranchisement with our leaders today. Revolution is springing up everywhere. The complaint about money is how it's used to gain influence over legislators and government in general.
No one is demanding any handouts. They are demanding that those that were responsible for the housing bubble be brought to justice. They are demanding that banks quit fleecing their customers. The Russians are protesting corruption. Will you be telling them to take a bath too?
While others are standing up for your rights, you sit back and belittle them... you are obviously part of the 99% sheeple....
I happen to like hard work & success. Problem is too often hard work is not acknowledged but devalued by corporations who don't want to pay you for it. Success can be achieved in any number of ways & too often in this country and others it's by purchasing influence or scamming people. Many people could be successful if they hired cheap foreign slave labor to build their business. We give billions and billions of tax breaks to American companies who fire American workers so they can use foreign slaves to produce their goods and run their telephone banks.
Ray in Jax
A very powerful statement; well said!
BlueBurner
You are so right. Many corporations even expect their employees to come up with ideas to save the company money; while the company president is out playing golf and polishing the company's image in the eyes of the community.
R.Scalzo: There is a difference between hard work and manipulation of others and the system for your own benefit. Hard work should be rewarded. Manipulation should be punished. what manipulation you say??? Sending jobs overseas so that your profits are greater. Ignoring pollution standards to keep your operational costs low. Registering in non-taxing countries to avoid paying your fair share. These are the crimes.
Exactly when did you become convinced that the root of your problems were the poor, the weary, the unfortunate? Think about it. Was it about the time you first realized that Bush had spent our futures away by creating enough debt to sink a country? Or was it when Wall Street screwed the world... they screwed THE WORLD... not an investor, not a company, not a stock, not even a country... the whole damn world? Because it was about then, about the time everyone was about to turn to the right and give the GOP the finger for it's malfeasance, that the right wing super-PAC'ed media started this campaign against "the entitlements".
"Oh yea!", they said. "It was the LEACHES that took us down! It's all those lazy unemployed food-stamping welfare people that did this to us! It's those Social Security supporting Medicare reliant elderly that are dragging us down."
And you bought it. You took the bait. Maybe because it's a lot easier to blame the one's with no voice than to consider that those you have cheered for may not be all that interested in your well being. Maybe the GOP leadership just isn't the cool, calm, collected, non-risk-taking conservatives you thought they were. Maybe the religion they wear on their sleeves doesn't really guide them as much as they would have you believe!
So you people just keep it up. Deny reality. Suppress the voices of real need. Blame Obama. Blame Congress. Blame the entitlements... blame anyone except who really did this to us. Let's just hope that 1% elite crowd let's you in before you become reliant on a small pension or Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid or Welfare or Food Stamps or unemployment insurance... and if you don't make the 1%, let's hope our country still supports it's people... you know... when you become one of "those" people.
Good on you Russia! Drink's all around!
Americaas finally getting it's fighting spirit back, I may not like the bloody yanks very much but at leastthey are going to fight against the deep and utter corruption in the banks.
Ever so slowly, the people of the world are rising up against the corruption and oppression of their rulers. Whether it is our own Occupy movement, the Arab spring, and now this, the people of the world are doing what they must to right this world and rid it of tyranny. But it is quite shocking that we in America share this need with the people of Russia and the people of the Middle East.
Good on you Russia! Drink's all around!
Americaas finally getting it's fighting spirit back, I may not like the bloody yanks very much but at leastthey are going to fight against the deep and utter corruption in the banks.
Here in the USA we are continuing to tolerate and re-elect a Communist Dictator 0h-bah-mah.
Wait it gets better.If Oblabber mouth keeps kissing BFF Andy Stern's ass, you're going to be living in a Chinese Style Government.
Andy Stern has been to China and he thinks Oblabber Mouth should copy their style of Economic Government.Corruption and All.Obama is even jealous of their economy!What does that tell you?
Just think if this piece of sh it Andy Stern has his way, Americans will all be living in a Communist Style Paradise.Don't think it can't happen?
AMERICANS BETTER WAKE THE HELL UP AND GET THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES.
Other wise they're in for a big SURPRISE.
You Obama haters are a joke.... he's had 4 years to enact communism, socialism, etc., and hasn't.
Maybe if he was white you'd give him half a chance?
Bee has no idea what a dictator is....
Really Jax, think I"m Bull Sh it, do you?Well guess what?Think again,because the Surprise is going to be on you!Obama is a Communist in Sheep's clothing.It takes time to ram a Obama style type government down people's throats.A little at a time Jax a little at a time.3 years isn't long enough.You see Jax if you want to introduce something new or change something the smart person doesn't do everything all of a sudden, it's subtle Jax subtle.
Think I'm kidding?Look at the History Of him and Andy Stern,you'll get an eye and a Brain Full.
He Obama is a Tin Horned dictator with a lot of bad intentions.It's going to be the world according to Obama and his cohorts.
gloria proudly writes her comments from a AFP blogging center. It just takes a few minutes to check with the masters on which euphemism best suits the situation...
Perhaps you'd like to stick to the subject of the article?
What's the matter Don feeling left out?
Congrats to the Russian people. Wonder if Americans could have changed our destiny, if we had the courage of these Russians when Bush stole the 2000 election?
Or when Obama did the same to Hillary Clinton?
Occupy Moscow all day all week!
No, what we need is FAIR TAX, FAIR Trade and JAIL the corrupt BANKSTERS and politicians!
Once again we see there can be no civil society when there is a great disparity of wealth. The answer is not communism but simply a progressive income and wealth tax.
It sounds like the Russian people are suffering from the same problems we have here in the US, with their protesting having about the same results. The current Russian political system is much younger than the US system which means their corruption isn't as seasoned as what we have here, but once you get down to brass tacks it smells the same. Legislative and Executive branch members being paid off in the political process to produce, remove, ignor, and enforce laws which affect their patrons at the expense of the people.
Social media may save Democracy or destroy it. Only time will tell, but it's nice to see it taking a chunk out of the talking heads that have shaped the political discussion in the US over the last 20 years.
Russia has come a long ways since the fall of the Soviet Union and there modern constitution was well constructed. I think what the Russian's are saying is that they don't want a president that they didn't elect.
What would American's do if Obama decided to quit and gave the presidency to Pelosie?
Since 2000, this nation began a clear decline in moral decency thanks to the psychotic socialists, demorats, unions, media, welfare addicts, gay's, and occupiers. The moral decay is national and global as those born after 1900 to 1940 die off. The baby boomers are the last remnents of decency as the spastic generations after 1960 produced worse offspring of the ME generation instead of WE. We may be advancing technologically but we are definatly digressing in character. Take a hard look at yourself in the miror and confess that you are part of the problem. In 2012 the psychotics/dysfunctional will vote for obama as their pied piper and this nation will be flushed down the toilet.
Yeah, we need more gay bashers like you to make America a better place.... /sarcasm...
if anyone needs to look in a mirror it's you....
I think your screen name is appropriate. You are a nob. Everything you said was all about YOU. You aren't a socialist, Democrat, member of a union, member of the media, on welfare, gay, or involved in the Occupy Movement. You are from the baby boomer generation. You're too young to remember the 1960s, probably didn't serve in any war (though you may have been in the Military), and your understanding of history is limited to what you hear from your favorite talking head. You are what the younger generation refers to as a "Hater." In your case it's an appropriate description.
Yeah we need more fundamentalist Christians like yourself to turn this country back to "greatness": a God-fearing Christian nation where everyone who is not a white native-born man is a second-class citizen.
You don't have a right to impose your version of America on me or anyone else buddy.
I'm certain Nobs wouldn't tell a single person they're part of any problem to their face, even if they really were part of a problem. Nobs, go back to 4chan you silly little troll.
Honest people are tired of corruption everywhere and the internet is letting the world look at itself like it never has before in the history of mankind. Where we go from here is anyone’s guess, I am amazed the powers that be have not shut it down, we live in very interesting times.
A government by the people for the people it all boils down to what the people allow their leaders to do, we are all guilty. For so long we have looked the other way while our governments sold us out all because it was easy and we were comfortable. We believed that freedom was free and the wolves would protect us, many people are waking up now but most are still asleep.
You say you want a revolution?
A Ron Paul Revolution
power to the people!
Власть народу !
" thieving authorities" Sounds familiar, a different way of saying " greedy, self serving, pols", here in the U.S.
You can be president for now comrade and me in 2012 and you again in 2016 and me again in 2020..and..well if still living you again.
Just a thought on the OWS. I applaud their spirit, but they are cut form the same cloth as the Tea Party. Many people just trying to do what is morally right but allowing their movement to be taken over by politicians and special interest. Please OWS don't give in to the unions and progressive lobbies. Break the cycle like the Tea Partiers should have. The Russians are doing it right, mass uprising without special interests. GO RON PAUL, power to the people, not washington or the military industrial complex.
These are one of the enemy the Department of Defense is spending a few hundred billion a year to protect us from. Bombers, missles & tank warfare in a great war against these aging bloodthirsty alcoholic and Afghan poppy seed adicted killers. Look at their eyes.
Yet again a John Lennon song stands the test of time:
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people,
right on
Say you want a revolution
We better get on right
away
Well you get on your feet
And out on the street
Singing power
to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the
people, right on
A million workers working for nothing
You better
give 'em what they really own
We got to put you down
When we come into
town
Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the
people
Power to the people, right on
I gotta ask you comrades and
brothers
How do you treat you own woman back home
She got to be
herself
So she can free herself
Singing power to the people
Power
to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Now,
now, now, now
Oh well, power to the people
Power to the
people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Yeah,
power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to
the people, right on
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power
to the people
Power to the people, right on
Right idea - wrong Lennon. Think Vladimir Lenin...
From the article: "But they say Putin's authority has been badly damaged and may gradually fade away when he returns as president unless he answers demands ranging from holding fair elections to reducing the huge gap between rich and poor."
Huge gap between the rich and poor...in Russia? Yeah, unlike what is being said nearly everyday, it happens under Communism, Socialism, and Capitalism.
I hope Russia gets a good Democracy going. That country has been in bad shape for a long time. Since it is a cold weather country they should be able to get organized and get a decent Gov't.
@Let me explain. Well said!! Wake up Americans!!
Reminds me of when Bush disallowed the votes in Florida to win but he really did cheat. For the Russian people you need to remember the Egypt & Libya results after the Arab uprisings (covert CIA operations like Tran 1950).
Egypt is now a hell hole for Christians, Libya well it's a mess the Great Man made River project partially destroyed, no jobs & fuel now is through the roof. Got to laugh people forget better the devil you know rather than the devil that comes out of the shadows.
Remember the Shar of Iran CIA plant he abused the people for years until in the 1980's they woke up.
Good luck if want to be sheep be sheep, the whole world sits and watches the GFC play out without anyone going to prison yet your protesters are arrested. The GFC is the biggest theft this planet has ever had.....do some research. These political issues are a part of a bigger diversion
The effect of Occupy Movement is noted in Russia.
Well Russia. The US has been in your situation. Ask the Republican Supreme Court.
Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), is the landmark United States Supreme Court decision on December 12, 2000, that effectively resolved the 2000 presidential election in favor of George W. Bush. Only eight days earlier, the United States Supreme Court had unanimously decided the closely related case of Bush v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Board, 531 U.S. 70 (2000), and only three days earlier, had preliminarily halted the recount that was occurring in Florida.
The Supreme court is just as corrupt as any politician but much more terrifying because that have no term limits and have a lifetime job.
Russians beware, the US and it's minions want to see your country torn to pieces so they can install a puppet government and reap Russia's vast natural resources. NATO already has you surrounded, and these fools on the streets today want to remove the only thing standing in the way of NATO's ambitions. Putin is the only obstacle in their way, so be careful what you wish for and remember who helped restore Russia after the 1990s. Just look at Russia's GDP growth under Putin. They are salivating in the west and rubbing their greedy blood stained hands just waiting for the moment they can have Putin out of the picture so they can have their way with Russia. Remember what they did to SERBIA, and never forget!
Are you fuggin' kidding me?
You sound like an old Soviet Commie.
Do you honestly believe that propaganda BS? Putin is the problem, not NATO... America welcomes a Russia that is truly democratic and respectful of it's neighbors and global obligations. Putin is power hungry and a very dangerous man...