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Subscribe to RSSStory updated 12pm ET/9am PT: President Obama welcomed Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to the White House Monday. Sitting side by side in the Oval Office, the two leaders posed briefly for cameras but did not make statements. They will hold a news conference together later.
Story published 6.30am ET/3.30am PT:
WASHINGTON - With the U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq in its final days, President Barack Obama and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki will meet at the White House Monday to discuss the next phase of the relationship between their countries.
They will have plenty to discuss.
The withdrawal of all American troops on Dec. 31 marks the end of a nearly nine-year war that has been deeply divisive in both the U.S. and Iraq. While Obama and al-Maliki have pledged to maintain strong ties, the contours of the partnership between Washington and Baghdad remain murky, especially with Iran eager to assert influence over neighboring Iraq. And serious questions remain about Iraq's capacity to stabilize both its politics and security.
Yet the end of the war still marks a promise kept for Obama, one the White House is eager to promote. In addition to his meeting with al-Maliki, Obama will mark the milestone Wednesday when he speaks to troops at North Carolina's Fort Bragg. And he thanked service members and their families for their sacrifices when he attended the annual Army-Navy football game Saturday.
As of late last week, the number of U.S. troops in Iraq had dwindled to about 8,000, down from 170,000 at the war's peak in 2007.
Monday's meeting between Obama and al-Maliki is expected to focus heavily on how the U.S. and Iraq will continue to cooperate on security issues without the presence of American troops. Iraqi leaders have said they want U.S. military training help for their security forces but have been unable to agree on what type of help they'd like or what protections they would be willing to give American trainers.
The White House said Obama and al-Maliki would also discuss cooperation on energy, trade and education.
Obama and al-Maliki will also hold a joint news conference at the White House, then lay wreaths at Arlington National Cemetery, where some of the nearly 4,500 Americans killed in the Iraq war are buried.
Across Iraq, U.S. troops are packing up everything and preparing to leave the country, leaving many bases surreally quiet. NBC's Richard Engel reports.
Iranian influence could grow
Looming over the talks are concerns among U.S. officials over how Iraq's relationship with Iran will develop with a significantly smaller U.S. presence in the region.
Al-Maliki has insisted that Iraq will chart its future according to its own national interests, not the dictates of Iran or any other country. But some U.S. officials have suggested that Iranian influence in Iraq would inevitably grow once American troops depart. Both countries have Shiite majorities and are dominated by Shiite political groups. Many Iraqi politicians spent time in exile in Iran during Saddam's repressive regime, and one of al-Maliki's main allies — anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr — is believed to spend most of his time in Iran.
Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said how Baghdad chooses to orient itself will significantly influence the future of Iraq's relationship with the U.S.
"A lot of this really comes down to, what kind of role is Iraq going to play in regional security?" Alterman said. "Is it going to be a place where bad people come and go, or is it going to play a role in calming down a region that needs some calming down?"
The first hints as to how Iraq will assert itself in the region may come from how it handles the troubles in Syria, where a bloody government crackdown on protesters has killed more than 4,000 people, according to the United Nations.
The Obama administration has called for Syrian President Bashar Assad to step down. But Iraq has been much more circumspect, with al-Maliki warning of civil war if Assad falls and abstaining from Arab League votes suspending Syria's membership and imposing sanctions. Those positions align Iraq more closely with Iran, a key Syrian ally.
The U.S. has warned Iraq's neighbors that even though American troops are leaving, the U.S. will maintain a significant presence there. About 16,000 people are working at the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, making it America's largest mission in the world.
Associated Press writer Rebecca Santana in Baghdad contributed to this report.
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Most urgently- President Obama should clarify and state unequivocally US stand when it comes to Iranian refugees at the Camp Ashraf- UN has asked other countries for their asylum since US in Iraq did not protect them 'as refugee status people' anmd stood by while Iraqis attacked them and killed some. Now according to http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9007277061 dated 2011-12-12 12:25 Iraqi police arrested 11 MKO members-antiIran terrorist Mohajedin-el-Khalq Organization in the town of Diyala in Northeast Iraq. Two (2) of the detainees had US Passports;3 Iranian passports;rest former Iraqi Army Officers who came from Camp Ashraf- MKO's main stronghold in Iraq. US Embassy in Baghdad took custody of the terrorists with American passports- individuals work for a security firm. Sunday (2011-12-11) Iraqi Ambassodor to Tehran Mohammad Majid al-Sheikh underscored Baghdad's serious decision for expelling MKO from Iraq - the decision is irreversible- they have to leave Iraq by end of 2011. Obama administration 's Human Rights Policy seems to be applied very inhumanely- since Camp Ashraf is Protected People under UN . Since there are again Contract service people inbolved they are endangering a whole Protected People by their very actions. Nobody in US Congress has even asked one iota what is US doing?
Seems like the revaluation of the Iraqi dinar should be a top concern between the U.S. and Iraq. The dinar needs to become a tradable currency again if they want to compete on the world market place.
I heard on the news this weekend that Bush's oil men are refusing to leave with our soldiers and are asking that some soldiers be left behind to defend them while they continue to siphon Iraqi Oil.
I don't understand why they just don't call Blackwater back in to defend them? Maybe al-Maliki would arrest Blackwater members?
Thats right is still Bush's fault...(why are they Bush's oil men - how about Americans?) Give it a break please...
Meanwhile what's your boy doing about the drone Iran has? How did it get there? Funny no press or critical statements about how this is not even being handle by the All Powerful Obama... Or for that matter how his office is allowing the drones to be used by local law enforcement...
"Get Real"- You ask how OUR drone got into Iran?? Easy. We flew it there. To get intelligence on Iran's ambitions. Simple.
The question you SHOULD be asking is, what right did we have to send in the drone in the first place? Now, obviously, all nations spy on one another all the time. It's nothing new, we've all been doing it since the dawn of time. No big deal, really.
Except now the Iranians have a piece of our advanced weaponry, and they are undoubtedly trying to reverse-engineer the damn thing. That's how the cookie crumbles, as they say.
Which leads me to my next point- You asked what is "being done" about the issue. Well, what of it?
What do you expect our leaders to do about it, exactly? Ask nicely to give it back? Offer free backrubs if they do? What? Or did you expect our leaders to just fire up the ol' war machine once again and go bomb Iran until they capitulate?? Do YOU have any ideas?
Face it, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place here, folks. Back to you, "Get Real".
The picture to this article says it all: Two Losers!
Indy Oops ....
We need to leave those people alone we can't take care of our own....
this is so heart breaking...shame on the people who push this agenda....you need many prayers..
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Wrong link ^^^ sorry
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Obama is the wrong guy to be President of the United States at this critical time. Sad.
ALAN290- I notice now everybodies tune has change on Obama that he is the wrong guy, well you people voted for him. Obama had no experience in global issues or domestic, but all you voters that fell in love with this President BS HOPE AND CHANGE.!!! Well I hope you idots voters like your New CHANGE.? This country will never learn to mind its own business around the world and I blame Obama and Bush for sticking their noses into these Arab countries business and the USA needs to STOP trying to change other countries way of life. We as a nation have no right to dictate when in fact we cannot even take care of our own affairs. This country is pitiful. Now you know why europe and around the world are getting sick and tired of us American's.
piegan,
Don't you dare blame me, and you may not be, but I voted for Romney in the primary and McCain for President.
Vote Obozo out in 2012.
And John McCain, with his finger up Sarah Palin's skirt is? Jeez! That guy just wrote a bill basically ending the 4th amendment.
Who would you suggest? Perry? Newt? Romney? We've had your Bush.
"So did all those kids die thinking of democracy and freedom and liberty and honor and the safety of the home and the stars and stripes forever?
You’re goddam right they didn’t
They died crying in their minds like little babies. They forgot the thing they were fighting for the things they were dying for. They thought about things a man can understand. They died yearning for the face of a friend. They died whimpering for the voice of a mother a father a wife a child. They died with their hearts sick for one more look at the place where they were born please god just one more look. They died moaning and sighing for life. They knew what was important. They knew that life was everything and they died with screams and sobs. They died with only one thought in their minds and that was I want to live I want to live I want to live.”
excert from book by Trumbo
ask any combat vet after they been back for a few years and get their head on straight..this is all trud people.
Our involvement in both Afghanistan and Iraq were failures from the first set of U.S. boots on their soils. I don't discredit our brave troops who made the supreme sacrifice, or those who came home missing limbs or who will suffer lifetime emotional issues at having lost friends. But this story should serve as the lesson as to why we as a nation need to stay the F out of the Middle East, except as customers for oil. When articles such as this eludes to the fact that one of al-Maliki's main allies is anti-American cleric Muqtada al Sadr. Isn't this rich?? We not only have spent hundreds of billions in Iraq, lost thousands of American lives, and left that nation more unstable than when it was ruled by Saddam Hussein but now have opened the door for Iran to play a larger role in shaping Iraqs future. Nice job D.C.
Obama deserves some credit for not screwing up the withdrawal agreement reached during the Bush administration? Now hopefully we Americans have learned a lesson that has been being preached by Ron Paul for many years,mind our own business and avoid foreign entanglements......................................................................''It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.,,
Thomas Jefferson
Read more:http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_jefferson_5.html#ixzz1gJv2IOcX
Hello PeAcE LoVeR-2838047
I beg to differ.
Obama deserves no credit what so ever. Obama blatantly promised in 2007 to end this useless, immoral war immediately. He broke his promise.
In fact the ONLY reason we are leaving Iraq is because the Iraqis would NOT extend immunity and essentially kicked us out.
Obama did NOT end the wars as promised, and his administration has done NOTHING to prosecute the criminals who destroyed our economy. Nor has anything been done to protect the taxpayers from being raped again.
Obama deserves to be replaced.( Fortunately for him, the monkeys the republicans are running will buy Obama a second undeserved term.)
Barack Obama Promise to End War
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"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. " - Barack Obama Campaign Promise - October 27, 2007 Nov 12, 2009
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What bank would that be Barack ???????
obama the idiot pulls the troops out of Iraq so we can go to war with Iran but I guess obama figures if we are at war he'll get re-elected. obama cares about U.S. my azz!!!!
Gary K-blah blah blah.
You have your presidents mixed up. Bush the idiot boy starts wars....Obama the best president ever ends them. Since when is a Bad thing to bring your troops home? Only crazed maniacs like the ex-president, the Idiot boy Bush would think that bringing the troops home is a bad thing. After all, the Idiot Boy Bush started two of them.
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Well, I got news for you. Ever hear of 9/11? We became entangled with them on that date in Afghanistan. We need to stay until the job is finished.
Obama will have to live a thousand lifetimes to pay the debt he is racking up. We cannot afford four more years of his BS spending, well beyond our means.
I don't get you conservitards. Your brainless wonder started all of these wars. Obama comes in promising to end them. It's not something that happens over night. He is bringing troops home, so you complain about that. Some troops are still there, you complain about that.
Actually I totally get you right wingers. Sour grapes that your Old Frankenstein and the Bimbo didn't get elected, so you have spent the last three years whining about 'the worst President in history.' You dolts were saying that on the day after his inauguration. Really? Worst?
By the way, Jesus hated the rich, did all he could to take care of the poor, and had universal life care.
Why do you hypocrites pretend to believe in his works?
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It'll be like when we cut and run as losers out of Vietnam. The second the US left the country, the Vietcong rounded up all the South Vietnamese who had cooperated with the USA for "Re-education Camps", and then unceremoniously tortured tens of thousands of our former friends to death.
It's not going to be any different in Iraq. The Shiite majority has a bone to pick with the Sunni minority who enforced Saddam Hussein's iron rule through murders and terrorism. There will be "re-education" and quite a body count, as once again the USA runs away with our tails tucked between our legs as the losers.
MeanGene-3334839 with all due respect how long should we stay involved in a country that it turns out getting involved in this war was a huge mistake anyway? Muslim sunni shiite nonsense will never end.
MeanGene
I agree with you . It looks to me that AL-SADAR'S star will rise with backing from IRAN . It will be quite the blood bath .
bob
We stay until the problem is solved. I don't know how long it will take. I know what I'd do. The triple cut pie would have been my solution. Sunnis get the Southwest slice, Shiites get the Southeast slice, and Kurds get the North slice. Draw the lines like what happened in the Korean conflict. This is your side, this is their side, now stop screwing around.
Iraq, like the Koreas, is a divided nation. It's not politically correct to give in to bigotry and such, but it's still the reality of the situation. The grim and ugly fact of the matter is that these peoples are never going to get along. They all get an "F" on their report cards when it comes to the line reading "plays well with others".
As it is, leaving now will not be like the massive coverup of atrocities like what happened in Vietnam. That was back in the 1970s when there was no internet, there were only three major networks and the flow of information globally was barely a trickle. That was then, and this is now.
If (when) there's a genocide in Iraq (nobody likes the Kurds at all) then guess who's going to be the bad guys for pulling out all the troops and letting it happen? That's right, the USA. And guess who's going to be heading right back in there to stop it? That's right, the USA.
Leaving the problem unresolved is no way to leave a problem at all.
MeanGene-3334839 thanks for your response,but I do disagree these people have been fighting over their religous differences for hundred of years and I personally would not sacrifice one more American life trying to mediate. I do respect your opinion.
Gotta agree with Peace Lover on that. It is not our job or our duty to keep the kids across town from fighting. We don't lose any honor by leaving when we said we would. In fact, I think the whole world would think better of us if we began to distance ourselves from the whole mess from the Mediterranian to India. Afghanistan was never a good idea, Pakistan will stop being so testy, Israel is fully able to defend itself from from Iran all while still making more room for more Jewish settlers. ( Sorry, my Isreali Jewish freinds) We dont need to be there. Were just spending inconceivable amounts of money getting people killed and it will never end.
How incredibly naive and arrogant.
This was a useless, immoral war based on lies from day one. There never was any "solving the problem".
We are not "leaving the problem unresolved". We have been rightfully asked to leave.
The Iraqis would NOT extend immunity and essentially kicked us out, (and for good reason).
mean gene if thats how most of you non military people feel its funny how many of you fought for this country try you might like it cowards!
Wow,
Monday's meeting between Obama and al-Maliki is expected to focus heavily on how the U.S. and Iraq will continue to cooperate on security issues without the presence of American troops.
Question? Should I start holding my breath now?
Saw an interview today where the average Iraqi said Americans will not be thought of kindly. MOST believe that life was better under the murderer Saddam than now. We opened Pandoras Box and now the tribes are free to war on a daily basis. Like it or not gang, Saddam kept them under control by fear. Now we removed the fear and they are free to war, been going on there for hundreds of years. Always has always will. Killing for religion is nothing new look at the Crusades. The parallels to Vietnam are staggering. I ask fellow vinees was it worth it? Are we even getting cheap oil? At least we did not have a casualty rate of over a thousand a month as we did in Vietnam. But my friends I fear all we did was awaken a sleeping giant called eternal strife and threat from Iran. We removed a stabilizing piece of a fractured foundation of radical nations. One last aside Saddam was OUR guy in the Iran/Iraq war. The enemy of my enemy is my friend NOT.
Ren,
You may be right. I would only then ask, if fear was the only stabilizing force that held the tribes from war. what can be done to regain stability of the area? Is a non military solution at all possible?
Sp we should have have helped Gahdaffi and Mubarek stay in power? I challenge the calim baout the Iraqi survey.
Kedrid, probably not. Only time will tell, but I fear they will never stop fighting among tribes.
Proud, no I am saying we should not have interfered and taken side or supported anyone in that region. It is NOT our call. And proud, I am a brother Vet as well.
Ren,
I agree with you, I am also afraid they never will stop fighting either! At least in my lifetime, it has always been that way.
I wouldn't say we have awakened a sleeping giant, more like we poked a junk yard dog with a stick. Now the rabid creature that knows only how to bite the hand that feeds it will be focused on US (the hand).
If we would of asked the Iraqi Christians if we should invade Iraq, they would of all shouted no...they knew that once in there we would be caught in a civil war within the country. They were so right! Before we invaded they could practice their faith without fear and the average person knew from history the kurds are barbaric and untrustworthy.
What did the brilliant minds surrounding gwbush do? They forgot about the Christians once we invaded and made millionaires out of the Kurds. However, just look at our neo-cons....Wolfowitz, Pearl, Crystal etc..they did not care about our soldiers getting massacred, they cared about getting gwbush and cheney rich and us get involved in an area on this earth which is so volatile....Great move on their part. This war has ruined our economy and poured our treasury into the middle east. It will take us years to recover. Our own citizens are looking at more cuts and more 3rd world like quality of life after building up this country.
I do not blame them for disliking US.......we have no business there.
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Seriously???
It didn't matter if we were there for 6 months ("Mission Accomplished"), 6 years, or December 2011. Once we made the decision to go in and remove Saddam, we were just keeping a lid on the place. Once we leave, the place will make us remember pre-surge 2007 as the good old days.
Well, at least we won't be in the middle this time. Good thing Bush and his gang pushed for this thing because of weapons of mass destructi----errr, ties to al-qaed---errr, freeing the Iraqi people.
Jolly Good, 100% agree.
Generic Right-Wing "apology tour" comment in 4... 3... 2...
What next? Just when you think you've heard it all Odumbass goes on national television and announces : "GOP Voters like my policies." Not on this planet.
his name is president Obama get it right dumbass..
Iraq will be Iraq for two or three more years then it will become part of the new Persian Empire.....
As long as they are killing each other who cares, I'm looking forward to the Arab Fall.
But some U.S. officials have suggested that Iranian influence in Iraq would inevitably grow once American troops depart. Both countries have Shiite majorities and are dominated by Shiite political groups.
With a Shia Iran and a Shiite majority dominating Iraqi politics, I think one of the unintended consequences of the U.S. pullout will be a watering down of the sanctions imposed on Iran for its nuclear weapons program. It will now be possible for Iraq to act as a middle man for Iran greatly softening the impact of these sanctions.
SI
OBAMA TRASHED ON NBC NEWS!
from “Morning Joe” today where Left-leaning journalist and writer Jon Meacham summed up Barack Obama pretty well. He said that in the face of Obama’s inability to get things done with Congress right now, Obama does not believe he has failed the country, but rather that “the country is not commensurate with his gifts.”
BWHAAAAHAHAHA! Not Commesurate with ODumbass's gifts??? What Gift??? Bankruptcy???? Occupy Wall Street??? Class Warfare??? Nancy Pelosi??? Just what did this racist give us excepT an excruciating pain in the azz for the last three years???
At least the folks over at MSNBC finally have him figured out...an ineffective racist poser.
HERE YE! HERE YE! FROM THE PrEsIdEnT OF PEOPLES PARTY -OUR NEXT PrEsIdEnT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NATIONAL REPUBLIC. The words the administration is going to send the 'Troops' home. And out of the other side of their mouth; they will still have 'Troops' there. Another lie from a; 'Greek of old' "DEMAGOGO." MORE important; what about the people of the USA; their equipment? The equipment in Iraq -and Afghanistan- belongs to the people -100%. Sell the equipment, give the peoples money back to the people, or bring the equipment back. Not another Vietnam. No more Vietnam. The politicians, so-called business people will rob the people once again selling our equipment and lining their pockets. Speak out! Get off your Tuff. Stand. Go to facebook.com type Peoples Party and click on Peoples Party public figure. Then do something. Peoples Party is newly formed. Go there, those that care. The rest don't bother. Thomas Kipley DuGan President for 2012.
JRH PP
The stupidest thing we could ever do is allow any American to stay and help train. If they don't have it by now, they won't get it and any American will be a target by extremists. Just asking for trouble and no amount of money would be worth the cost of their lives. The only thing our American president should be discussing is what is the Iraqi people going to do to compensate the American people (and other countries) for all their trouble in fighting their war for them, ousting their leader, and helping to rebuild. So far, I've seen diddly-squat.
Goodbye to Iraq. Too bad more than 4000 U.S. soldiers died in vain.
I wonder how big of a check he went home with?He should have been forced to take holder with him in return for all the money we dumped in this cess pool and foremost loss of lives!
Say goodbye to the Sunni's and the Kurds, oh well, no harm done. Should have closed down in Afganistan/Pakistan at the same time.
How about talking about how Baghdad can pay the US to help it, whatever that looks like.
I'm tired of helping these middle east countries at such a high cost to the American tax payer, with virtually nothing in return.
They want training, they should pay for it, perhaps discounted oil for the American tax payer. They want maintenance or equipment, how about some cash in return. Security, how about the going rate.
I don't think that's too much to ask. To me, it's a no brainer, I have no idea what the politicians are thinking besides how to self enrich themselves, I suppose.
I totally agree, After Iraq is up and running, the US should be repaid for many years. I'm tired of nation building with our soldiers and national treasure
Thus ends the most useless, stupidest war after Vietnam. Now we need to get the hell out of Afghanistan.
I agree, let them get back to their sharia law so they can beat and kill their women, we have no reason to stop that .
So, HOW MUCH IS IRAQ costing the American taxpayer in foreign aid. How much is congress paying them to be our friend (using the term "friend" loosely). These countries cannot be trusted.
I bet you $10,000 Iraq is back to a complete dictatorship within 1 year
Thank you President Obama - Promise kept!
Obama 2012
Tommy, this is NOT a "promise kept". The deal to pull troops by the end of 2011 was signed by BUSH.
But don't let your shoe licking admiration for Obama get in the way of the TRUTH.
You want to explain those other promises? You know, like cutting the deficit in HALF (instead of doubling it?). Like closing Guantanamo within a year (instead of keeping it open for THREE years now?) Like keeping unemployment BELOW 8% (while it peaked at OVER 10% and the only reason it's at 8.6% now is because THREE TIMES as many people that were hired had their unemployment run out, which forced the numbers lower than the 9% that it actually should be?)
ANYBODY but Obama 2012
Now this low life obama is saying HE brought peace to Iraq. This insolent idiot needs to be replaced!!
ANY BODY BUT soros & obama in 2012!!!!!!!
GARY KKK: Sure one hell of lot better than the Koch Suckers & Michele ("I'm too stupid to know my husband is gay") Bachmann.
Ozzie, I'm a moron
Obumbles is a one term loser who's only accomplishents have been to teach Joe Biden how to got potty by himself and making Jimmy Carter look presidential by comparison to himself.
Well, Iran couldn't take Iraq in the eight year war so now all they have to do is just drive on in, thanks Odumbo, 4,000 lost american lives and unknown treasure for what and now Iran owns it. This is one smart president.
Hey Goldman, what teabagger revisionist history book are you reading?!?!? Get real dude!
you don't have a clue
That was before they had a nuclear weapon. DA!
Ken....who refers to anyone anymore as "dude"?
Why did the Lord make life so hard by making liberals so STUPID?????
yes sir, it's incredible their thinking
Good-bye Iraq!!! Let them wack each other. Maybe they'll start another war with Iran. Probably no such luck.
Iraq has no military, come on Iran, the stupid american president said its cool, you can have our oil and kill our women now.
Obummer out in 2012
Wagonmaster....and maybe Joe Biden will finally get his GED and "Bo" the White House dog will win the Kentucky Derby next year too!
Dear Bobby G and Bobby the number,
I know stupid when I read it and what you guys write is pure with a capital S. Only idiots such as yourselves would support the clown convention that parades as the Retard ticket.
I will be betting unemployment goes right back up following the holidays, they use alot of temps for the holidays.
12-12-11 I really have no comment, just a statement of fact. Why has it taken Obummer so long to get our troops out and when will he get impeached? That all folks!!
can't and won't impeach because he's the first b l a c k president
"Why has it taken Obummer so long to get our troops out"......
One reason may be because that would raise the unemployment rate even higher. Better to keep all soldiers in a foreign country working, than to look bad politically when trying to get re-elected.