Agreed.

A voice of reason in a sea of hate. Sad that it is coming to our shores with the new hate movement against Christians here in the US.

Ironic that the aetheists are fulfilling Bible prophesy by hating Christians. Heaven forbid they start reading Bibles!...lol

Atheists don't hate Christians. lmao! They just want to be left alone and not preached to about how they're the root of all evil per someone else's belief system, as shown above. Any belief system that causes hatred and judgement of another human being is one of pure ignorance. Oddly enough, my Christian, Jewish, Islamic, atheist and Wiccan friends all strongly agree on this point. Happy New Year all, let's stop spreading hate!

"Hate movement against Christians?" Christians control all three branches of the federal government, command the governments of all 50 states, control the most powerful military the world has ever seen, have a near monopoly over the US economy, and exercise a voter majority so large that they can, and regularly do, trample the constitutional rights of others. Christians are not. @!$%#ing. Persecuted. In America.

Where have you been, Jen? Atheists do hate christians. Have you not paid attention to MSNBC hate tactics towards christians? I don't recall atheists pointing the finger at other religions even though they would agree as most christians would in terms of homosexuality, abortion, etc.

The fact that you think you are being preached to is what we feel, whenever we turn on the news. For you to think that you are the only ones who gets preached to just shows how complacent you truly are.

Toasty: Stop spreading liberal dogma. Christians do not control all three branches or this country would not be in the shape it is in.

Ummm....Toasty, wrong again!

Jen- Maybe you and your friends feel that, way but you don't speak for all of them, I am seeing allot of negative feelings in remarks made by some individuals that are filled with hate, its sad that people cant leave people alone to their beliefs. there may be hope for Egypt I never would have imagined the Muslim brotherhood would stand up for a Christan, that's a good sign. lets see how well it works.

I blame you. You blame me. Everyone blames someone else. This is not a Christian, Muslim, or atheist issue. It's a human issue. Humans kill each other and hate each other for any reason or no reason at all. People will always find some reason to despise and think less of some other group of people. Christians are being persecuted, killed and forced into exile in many other nations though. To say that Christians are being persecuted here is total nonsense . The people crying wolf saying that Christians are being persecuted here are diminishing the sacrifice of believers who are actually suffering for their beliefs. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter what someone calls themselves. Labels mean nothing. It's actions that count. Someone who hates other people, and wishes harm on them is no atheist, Christian, or Muslim. That person is just a douchebag. Don't equate the person with the philosophy.

The Quran, Surah 29:42 Verily Allah(Swt) doth know of whatever that they call upon besides Him, and He is Exhaulted(in power), Wise. Surah 29:46 And dispute not with the People of the Book(scriptures), except in the best way, unless it be with those of them who do wrong. But say, We believe in Revelation which has came down to you; our God, and your God is One, and it is to Him we submit (in Islam).

Jen, if atheists don't hate Christians, then how come every time there is an article that might show a Christian in a bad light, or any article about the Catholic Church (who are also Christian), the atheists go in a frenzy on this vine posting their nasty negative comments?

See below.

I think we can all agree that everyone - regardless of the possession of abiding faith or an abstinence from - acts like an idiot when granted the kind of anonymity the Internet allows. I really, really doubt the kinds of comments that fly back and forth daily on MSNBC's articles (and many other news sites, as well) would be as severe and vile were they expressed in the flesh.

m, WOW!!! the first comment and the most poignent and true

This 'war on Christianity' is pure BS, just another excuse for evangelical Christians to assault the rest of us. This time of year they always bring up the alleged 'war on Christmas'. Another made-up crisis from the Faux News entertainment channel. Its a tree, a holiday tree or whatever else anyone wants. Jesus did not have a Christmas tree. The founding fathers did not have a Christmas tree. The 'Christmas' tree is based on an old European pagan ritual, that has nothing to do with Jesus. 'Happy Holidays' is not on attack on Christmas. There happen to be people of many faiths and cultures; most of the people in the world are not Christians.

I happen to be Catholic, and do not feel a need to attack others for celebrating the winter holidays in a different manner than my family. We are comfortable with our culture and rituals, and feel no need to impose them on others. We do not want to be 'saved' by these nut cases that have no respect for anyone else's religious beliefs.

Evangelical Christians with their extreme views are not mainstream America. They represent an extreme view, just as the Muslim extremists do. Like Muslim extremists, they want to impose their version of 'what is right'. If the tea party has their way, they will be burning witches in Salem again.

Go ahead, tell me how I'm wrong. Name a branch of government, or any of the factors I listed that aren't almost entirely controlled by Christians. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Christians control all three branches of the federal government, command the governments of all 50 states, control the most powerful military the world has ever seen, have a near monopoly over the US economy, and exercise a voter majority so large that they can, and regularly do, trample the constitutional rights of others. Christians are not. @!$%#ing. Persecuted. In America.

There are black helicopters circling over your house right now. They are all Christians that are ready to strike at any moment...

Run Toasty run....

Argh. This arguing about Christians versus atheists is so absurd. This story is about real Christians in Egypt being physically attacked by extremist Muslims. These people are actually losing their lives ( "waaaah- some people say happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Stop this war on Christmas. Waaah!" )

To my fellow Christians out there: respectfully, shut up with the 'war on Christianity' thing. The only real damage to Christianity in this country, over the last 100 years, has been done by misguided or false Christians. Stop it with the paranoia and culture war. If God gives man free will to choose his destiny, then the so called church shouldn't think that it knows better to impose its will on the rest of the world. Get back to being more like Jesus and less like Jerry Fallwell.

To the angry atheists out there: I used to be an atheist and I don't like 90% of what the so called church does either. Guess what- Jesus hated hypocrisy and enforced religion more than either of us. You have every right to believe what ever you want and choose your own destiny, just don't assume that you have the corner on truth, any more than know it all Bible thumpers do.

To everyone: our petty little disagreements are insignificant, compared to what happens when people disagree in many countries. People will always disagree and should respectfully discuss different points of view. In our country, we are extremely fortunate that we have freedom of speech and freedom of religion. They don't have these things in Egypt, or Pakistan, or in many other places in the world. Tolerance of people with different viewpoints is essential in a democratic society and in any society where competitive viewpoints can dialogue. I am unashamed in my Christian faith and have confidence in what I believe. If I can't convince others of the appeal of my faith by discussing it rationally and respectfully with others, than either it or I am in error. The same goes for everyone.

Go ahead, tell me how I'm wrong. Name a branch of government, or any of the factors I listed that aren't almost entirely controlled by Christians. Go ahead, I'll wait.

• The White House is not controlled by Christians.
• The House is not controlled by Christians.
• The Senate is not controlled by Christians.
• The Military is not controlled by Christians.

Your Welcome.

@ James, I think you are probably speaking for the majority of Christians in America, at least, you sound like all my Christian friends. It is unfortunate that a few crazy people take over these message boards (or the media limelight) and then everyone is tarred with the same brush. I am not a Christian any longer, but I respect your right to your beliefs, and would fight for you to have them. To me, that is exactly what America is about. You are so right about how fortunate we are to live in a country where we can all believe what we choose and not die for it. Hate is a choice, and it's sad to see people ripping our country apart with their intolerance. Happy New Year!

The President is Christian.

The House is overwhelmingly Christian.

As is the Senate.

And the chain of command of the U.S. Armed Forces.

You'll have to do a lot better than that, kiddo. But tell you what, I'll do your homework for you. The scientific community is the only group in the United States that is not overwhelmingly christian. But even then, I believe the polls show they still exercise a majority.

@Toasty McGrath - The pResident claims to be Christian.

The members of the House claim to be Christian as is the Senate.

The Chain of Command in the military being Christian doesn't even make sense.

You'll have to do a lot better than that, kiddo. Turn off the TV, walk away from the internet and actually try and make contact with an actual human... and stop telling me what the polls tell you.

Toasty, respectfully, what about those people reflects the teachings of Jesus? Do they consider others as more important than themselves? Do they honor God more than power or money? Are they willing to sacrificially lay their lives down for the sake of others? Cultural Christians? Maybe. True followers of Jesus? Consider me sceptical. We are in agreement, however, that the established church in America is much too comfortable with American culture and political power. We are also in agreement that there is no real war on on Christianity, in this country. There is a war on freedom of faith in many countries, however.

Why have Muslims attack Christians across Egypt and why would they plan to do so again? It seems to be pure intolerance for the right of others to think for themselves and adopt any religion they chose.

For crying out loud, Drew, if they aren't christian, what the hell are they? You tell me. You can't get elected in the United States without admitting a devotion to Christianity. You're arguing against a basic common fact, and I just want you to know it makes you look very bullheaded and uninformed..

Toasty, while I agree that the vast majority in politics will cowtow to any view which will garner them votes, most are not Christians.

Do you know any politicians (other than Newt Gingrich) who don't claim to be loving husbands and fathers (or wives and mothers)? Do you think they really are?

Do any of them not claim to know how to fix the world's problems? They clearly don't know.

Politicians lie! Is that a revelation to you? People lie. The better question is "Why do people think that claiming a nominal belief in a faith that doesn't even remotely reflect the teachings of its founder is a good thing?" Most real Christian reject the false faith that is represented by these pretenders, but we live in a nation of pretenders. People who never read claim to be intelligent. People who've never left our country claim we live in the best country in the world. People who constantly do bad things think they are good. We pretend. We're misled. We desperately need truth.

Ah yes, the "no true Scotsman" argument. One of the apologists' favorite excuses.

Well, Toasty, there are "true Scotsman" around. I know a handful or more. It's within the bounds of imagination that one or two may be politicians, but it's highly unlikely. It's no excuse, it's just truth. You can call yourself anything, but it doesn't make you that. Again the issue is why does the church identify itself so closely with any political party. I believe it is because many in the church are misguided or just pretending.

In other words... an excuse.

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You 2 prove the point of the postings above that atheists do hate Christians!

Where have we ever said we hated christians?

I'm a bit unclear William, who are these idiotic muslims full of hate and jihad you're talking about ?

The egyptian military ? The youth revolutionaries ? The muslim brotherhood ?

Because they're all muslims, and they all vowed to protect the copts.

Or maybe you're just another uneducated idiot who's too stupid to make a difference between a tiny minority and the vast majority of muslims.

Time to go get a brain transplant.

they are all the same !

Most would have found your words to be more meaningful if you had said: 'Idiotic RELIGIONISTS full of hate.'

ercillor, really, very few rather than most.

ercillor,

You nailed it. I'm not so sure that William might be one of those too, but just on the other side of the equation.

The shear lunacy I see today over religion often makes me think we are moving backwards as a human race. I believe in God and consider myself Christian, but not in the way most like to label it. The teachings of Jesus Christ can be summarized in a paragraph or two, but if we did it that way, there would be little need for organized religions who can twist and manipulate to try and make their desired interpretation that fits their needs. Islam is in many ways the same thing. If we could just reduce these two religions to a tweet, they would both say the same thing. Kind of funny when you think about it.

I don't think there is anything approaching a parallel in the animal kingdom. You have predators and prey and battles to achieve dominance, but these things are driven by things like food, sex and survival of the species. That's where we humans are different. We can create our own powerful base needs that drive us more than instinct. That is what beliefs do. We can miswire our own brains to cause us to do things that go completely beyond the realm of and counter to, self preservation. Sometimes you have to wonder how we have survived as long as we have. Sometimes I think that as our species evolves we are actually getting worse. When you think about all the things that you believe and accept as facts, over the years the things that we actually learned ourselves or experienced become a smaller and smaller percentage of our knowledge base. As smart as we are, we are so stupid as to believe in ridiculous, illogical things. We have the ability to reject such things, but it often seems that some of the most outlandish and illogical things end up being some of the strongest beliefs.

@"michael"

maybe these muslims, as in all muslims who give to zakat.

maybe you can try to belittle the language syntax of the wording from zakatguide.org

side note - interesting how an original meaning existed. also, interesting what has come to fruition as a #1 priority item.

"Rules Governing the Transference of Zakah

Originally, Zakah money should be distributed among the poor living in the region from which the money is collected, not in the region where the Zakah payer lives. But it is permissible to transfer the Zakah money for another location if there is any clearly justified reason.

Following are possible cases:

1. Transefering it to the places of Jihad (Fighting for the cause of Allah).

2. Transfering it to institutions caring for Calling for Islam, education, healthcare which deserve a share of the Zakah amounts as one of the eighth channels of Zakah

3. Transfering it to Muslim regions afflicted by famine and disasters.

4. Transfering it to one's relatives who deserve Zakah."

? Lets see its only a couple of days, a few lives more or less. its the most positive move Ive seen all year. will the Brotherhood stand up for the Coptic's?

seeing the Muslim Brotherhood working with the Christians to bring peace in the middle east ... is enough to make you feel there must be a god.

@"dave" : Maybe it would be time for you to learn what the word "Jihad" means

Hint : war is far from being the main aim of Jihad, nor is it spreading Islam.

@"michael"

i wish i could take the classical understanding of what jihad has been described as, for what jihad is today.

i mean that in all sincerity. i truly do. yes, i truly do.

unfortunately, world events have done nothing more than to re-enforce the more common "western" understanding of jihad. worse yet, we have authoritative sites like zakatguide.org also re-enforcing the concept that is common in the west, and i tend to believe has become common in a lot of muslim areas; that is "Jihad (Fighting for the cause of Allah)"

that's straight from zakatguide.org.

until i and much of the west see much real, on the ground difference in behavior tendencies, it will be very difficult for grass roots opinions to change.

@ "d. buck" and "steve",

i've got my fingers crossed, hoping for the best. anything is possible until proven otherwise.

@"Dave" :

a) Tell me, what world events are showing that Jihad today only means "war/terror" in a 1+ billion people muslim world ?

b) Since when has zakatguide.org become authoritative ? When did it start becoming an authority in that 1+ billion population ? The answer is *NEVER*. It's just one site that fits what you want to hear and so you try to make it authoritative even though it's not.

True "authority" in the muslim world is limited to a very small set of people, namely the Al-Zahar university in Cairo and a couple other scholarly entities. A random website from Bangladesh definitely is not on the list.

As for your "on the ground difference", it's certainly not the muslim world's fault if you choose to only look at what you want. Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey are some of the most populous muslim countries, they have no "Jihad" issue of any kind, Turkey is no more religious than the United States for that matter in its laws, that's 75 million muslims right there.

I would have to agree. Anyone who has seen the news knows about the attacks on christians in Nigeria on Christmas day. The muslims first gave a warning to the christians in the area not to celebrate Christmas. When that didn't happen, they preceded to bomb the churches on Christmas morning. Rarely does this make MSNBC's news.

Good point...the American muslim community has never done anything to stop terrorism, they only sit quietly and then complain loudly when they think they are being singled out or ostracized. Totally complicit in all the terrorism by saying nothing, doing nothing.

Absolutely true, unless they are protesting a Lowe's advertisement ban on that TLC show. It's only then that we actually see them.

I think America has enough Muslims, its time to turn of the spigot. before it becomes a problem, and it will. as individuals their not bad people but in high no's# they will be a problem. They have proved that to be true, just pay attention. as their population grows so will their demands. same as other elements of our society. The difference is they will become violent, its their nature.

when is the last time you saw moderate Christians denounce Christian extremists?

all Muslims are not terrorists. we have already bankrupted this country bringing unnecessary wars to Afghanistan and Iraq. Now these people want to go to war with all Muslims? Give me a break, we don't have the money even if made any sense.

Steve -- What are the acts of Christian extremism to which you refer? Inform us of all the planes they have hijacked and flown into buildings, the trains they have bombed, the weddings they have bombed , the girls they have thrown acid on to stop them from being educated , the daughters they have murdered because they wanted to chose their own spouse , the hands they have cut off for theft , the women they have denied the right to drive a car , the captives they have beheaded , the places of worship they have burned simply because they refuse to tolerate the right of others to think for themselves and peacefully worship the God of their choice.

The number of violent acts committed in the name of Islam in the 21st century dwarfs the number committed by Christian extremists, exceeds them by orders of magnitude , by thousands and thousands. Why does this demonstrable reality escape you?

Fuel budget expended with no help from the Saudis. Goats to be used New Year's.

Because most atheists still think we can get along with them in that they keep pushing on us, how good and kind they truly are. And some are; but I think the majority of muslims are either in denial about what their religion actually teaches, or they will speak out only when its time for world domination.

I think all religions are equally silly Unhappy. I'm not saying you to be buddy buddy with islam. I'm just point out how rideculous it is for two religions to hate each other over such nonsense.

skepology --- It 's not ridiculous at all for Muslims to hate all non-Muslims. They are taught it all their lives in the Koran, Hadith and Sira of Muhammad. They are taught the Koran is the inerrant word of God. If you were taught this from birth in a society where everyone believed it, you would believe it too.

Yeah but this is political, not religious. And about those goats.....

Religion is politics.

Christian's are people of God, a special class to be protcted under Islamic Law. Those claiming to follow Sharia Law are called upon by God to protect these Christians practicing their faith. Violence upon them is an affront to Allah.

I guess no one got the memo.

The Quran is like the Bible, you can find whatever you want in it: peace is desirable above all else and minorities should be protected, or god commands that endless wars be fought to destroy and kill the nonbelievers. Certainly some moslems are out for blood and go with my second point, but most of them are at least tolerant; if not we'd be hearing a lot more about this kind of thing. That's why there are still largeish historic christian communities in most of these countries. It ain't all peace and love, but there's hope for something kind of like it.

Certainly some moslems are out for blood and go with my second point, but most of them are at least tolerant; if not we'd be hearing a lot more about this kind of thing.

Apparently you are not aware of MSNBC portrayal of muslims; MSNBC's coverage always tries to put muslims in a positive light. As you might know now, MSNBC failed to mention the christians that were bombed in NIgeria on Christmas day of 2011 by muslims. I suggest you look at other news stations before you decide if muslims are the peaceful human beings you think they are.

The small percent of Muslims that are not tolerant will through Violence take over the higher Percent of tolerant Muslims, They simply do not tolerate a moderate form of their hard line religion. allot of Muslims living in America left their homeland to get away from those extremist but guess what the extremist are following them, and its just a matter of time till they have a strong enough foothold to work their policies. we will not have to go to the ME to fight with them over their extreme views, we can just wait a little while and do this at home, right in your back yard. its a proven fact just look at every where they have gone, its their way or death. it starts with simple demands then those demands grow to build their cult-ure....... do your own study. its not good for America. it will change our way of life, and in many cases death.

has anyone done it yet?

Good for you.

might, as is quoted in the Bible: "Those who do not adhere to KEVIN's ideology will suffer My wrath"

You should really try and not use peyote just before you try and type something for public view. I know, sad, bitter ignorant pathetic like to attack everything but yo are only deluding yourself if you think are elevating your worth with chaotic, ignorant diatribe.

I truly hope the New Year finds you addressing the personal issues that are overwhelming your reason and happiness. However, admitting your problem is the first step to recovery.

Skep

Yeah, like the friendly atheist republic of North Korea is any better, right? The Soviet Anti-Religion campaign sure showed much more tolerance towards others, more than all of them religions, right? I mean, anything that isn't associated with religion is obviously clean, has no bad marks on it, right?

Do tell, is that what you truly think? Your ideologies are better and more cleaner because you choose to use only one eye when viewing reality?

Um, North Korea is not an atheist country. As most experts in cults would point out, it is a forced cult of belief in the leader as Supreme, anointed, chosen, whatever term you would like. It is as far from atheist as can be, which explains the atrocities against, in particular, Christians. It is not unusual in dictatorships that the dictator is portrayed as a demi god. In this case, a lack of state religion does not make N. Korea atheist, it simply paves the way for the dictator to be god. The truth is that Buddhism and Confucianism still plays a significant role in traditional beliefs of most the people of North Korea. Just food for thought.

Jen, the leader of North Korea thinks of himself as a god(in other words, not having to answer to anybody). Atheists don't believe in god, so the only one they have to answer to is themselves( again, not having to answer to anybody). Tell me, what's the difference? It's as if you can't see what's in front of you.

There are those who want to be worshiped as god (Stalin, Kim and the likes.)

There are those who want to worship a god (religions)

I simply laugh at worship all together. If you take authority from a being you deem supreme and unquestionable or if you think you are a being that is supreme and unquestionable than I laugh at you. It's silly to me and sicking at the same time that you would allow yourself to be so submissive to such a dismissive concept. And when these tragedies, like in this article, happen I am just sad that we haven't grown out of the concept as a species.

Skepology-Have you ever seen a Atheist pray, I have, it only takes the right situation and they start praying.

No. But I have read about plenty of praying people killing other praying people and I'm certain some of them prayed for that very thing not to happen to them, while the others prayed for their success in killing them. What does that mean D Buck? If you think prayer works than WTF does that mean?

Unhappy - It is clear from your posts that you must truly be, well, unhappy. To try to clear up your misconceptions about atheists, most atheists are also humanists. You may want to read up on that philosophy to understand why your analogy doesn't work. Not all atheists are, however, most believe that there is a mutual respect due to each other. It is through a higher code of understanding that we govern ourselves, learning and evolving intellectually. It is why, for example, slavery has been deemed reprehensible or rape is illegal. These crimes against humanity were and are still allowable by religions through the ages. It is through greater intellect that we have decided that there are crimes that may not be historically criminal in tradition that we do deem criminal now. That is the evolution of the mind, of humanity and which atheists hold as the most important value. I sincerely question any persons intellect that thinks that logic and reason shouldn't trump superstition or tradition.

I could go on, but this is a subject you have to want to have better understanding on. Hopefully, you will set aside your own preconceived notions about what atheists are or aren't. Truthfully, there are many atheists that I feel have taken up the same strident tone as pushy religionists have had for centuries. Neither do their ideology any benefit other than turn people off to their message.

Skepology

It only takes a few words of yours for anyone to see how blind you are. "But I have read about plenty of praying people killing other praying people".

What, so all people who pray kill? God. You act like there has never been an atheist guilty of murder. A person is a person, no matter the religion. The actions of some people should not reflect the entire group. You'd have to be a reaaaaaaaal idiot to still hold on to some outdated, Stone-Age ideology like that.

The main idea? No group is entirely clean. Atheism doesn't mean you are smarter than others, just means you made a personal choice. No such thing as being smarter, over something we will never know of before we die (existence of God). Atheism is just one of the many guesses/assumptions out there about the afterlife.

On the other note, if you want to be shown tolerance and respect, I suggest you do the same. Calling all religious people murderers, then crying about how much of a victim you are of intolerance will only show how bad your arguements truly are.

Hypocrisy, supremacy, stereotyping and "I'm better than you" ideology are all childish ideologies, blantly immature, and outdated. If you really want to get your point across in a smart way, lay off those four elements you use in your writing, then I'm 100% sure we might take you more serious.

I want you to point out where I said that those who pray also kill people, that atheist are not capable of killing people, or that I'm smarter because I'm an atheist.

I have no quotes to post, you're sentiment and disrespect to all religious poeple shows it.

"What a disgusting joke religion is. If I wasn't so busy laughing at how stupid it is I would be holding back vomite from the big pile of shame stain is smears across humanity. Time to grow up people."

I guess you were talking about how smart all religious people are. I'm sure you were praising people for following religion.

On the the note, you claim to be non-religious, and those that are religious should "grow up". I guess that wasn't showing how superior you feel against religious people, huh?

And that's just in three sentences. I'm sure you know what points I'll use next, and I'm sure you'll play the lost little boy, "Point them out to me then". I've pointed out a few areas were you shoot yourself down. Let's not say ALL the posts you've made in this page (NOTE: Page, entire one, not limited to this thread).

I hope I answered your question with much convinence.

I don't feel superior at all. I just feel religious people are kept from a potential because they burden themselves with an authority figure that has no reason to be there. Time to grow up and put away these story tales so that we can think through our problems instead of just waiting for the end, or waiting for the solution to just happen like some miracle. And yes I honestly believe religion is the boil on the ass of humanity and the chains on progress. It's some sacred and unquestionable concept yet interpreted countless ways, offers nothing valuable that obviously hasn't been reasoned out before its time (hence the previous generations that seemed to prosper well enough before even the hebrews), and has remanents of acceptable behaviour that we would find disturbing today. It's stupid. That's the best and honest way I can put it. However, I never said those with religion are stupid themselves I said religion is stupid. Frank Collin, smart and respected guy stupid religious belief. Newton, smart guy stupid religion.

Now, I also never said that those who pray are killers. What I wanted to know is if you believe prayer works than how do you go about explaining why we have two religions. One that does pray for the success of killing the infidel and one that does pray for protection against infidel and yet life is going on with miss and hits as if it never even mattered that they did.

Correction Francis Collins.

It's sad to see people fighting over the one being that is supposed to love them all.

I would not be surprised if the number of Christians trying to immigrate to more tolerant countries is not far larger than those other countries are willing to take.

Christians were in Egypt first, but in over more than 1000 years of Muslim rule, have become a minority. At one time, from North Africa to Turkey was all predominantly Christian. It became Muslim through military conquest.

Religion is commonly used to get power, in reality religion is not the issue power is. we should not blame religion on what man does. Islam on the other hand is a cult.

What in Islam scripture, or the quran if you will, do you find cult qualities?

marlane, what you are forgetting is that the KKK is comprised of members who may call themselves Christian but they are not a denomination nor are these people practicing the teachings of CHRIST JESUS. Their hateful organization does not exist to worship any entity. Most Christians speak up against them and want nothing to do with them. The KKK is not a religion nor do they kill in the name of GOD nor are their atrocities limited to our Black population. They also hate Catholics and Jews. There may be others targeted by them as well but honestly, I don't know. Personally, I'd just as soon see them as an ugly footnote in our history. Hard to believe they are still around.

marlane - please don't make statements that are blatantly lies. The KKK was NOT nor is it a Christian organization. It was a purely political group (and for the democratic agenda). Do your homework before commenting about something which you know nothing. I am a Christian woman and take great offense at someone saying that such a horrific and hateful group is Christian. There is nothing Christian about them. If you read and know the Bible you would know that Christianity is a faith of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. The KKK is the antithesis of this. Christians may not be perfect because we are still human and sinners after all, but strive to live a life according to the teachings of Jesus Christ and through the Holy Spirit, not one of killing, hating, and hurting others.

Thank you, Lordy! You hit the nail on the head.

Lord, you must wake up!! Those who do not comply to God's wishes will die at the hands of God's TRUE followers

God is real as it is all the religions that are based on god that are corrupt. Personally, I believe god is nature, and came about when the first living thing in our universe died. We are judged when we die, however; not by God but by a group of very wise men. That bright star over the manger was none other then a UFO, and so was that so called flamming chariott. Don't be fooled into thinking we are alone in the universe by our Gov's refusal to tell we the people the truth as the gov doesn't want to admitt there are beings that we are virtually powerless against at this point in time. Just imagine what would happen if the Gov came clean yepper PANIC. Prehaps when we stop the wars and nonsence killings of each other they may embrace us, and untill we do we are nothing but a danger to the universe. God lives through every living thing on this planet as well as others unless the person/thing has no soal. Our soal is static electricty that is formed by our blood pumping much like a ungrounded water pipe will shock the heck out of you. You want to deny religion cool...so do I as they are ALL corrupt, however; please never deny GODs existance.

While it is true that some christians can be a little pushy, I think you know that they have your best interests at heart. It also sounds to me like you live in the bible belt if you feel that you would lose your job over something like this. I do not live in a place like that, so I can't tell you how to respond. I however, live in an area surrounded by atheists. If I only had to listen to their beliefs, then that would be one thing. But their attitude shows otherwise, in the way they treat others. You can see they are only out for themselves.

I know people say that the grass is always greener, etc. , but you should really count your blessings.

sonar guy, you sound full of despair. Am I reading this correctly??? Where do you live??? I am a Believer in a Bible Belt state and those that I know who are atheist are pretty outspoken about it and do not see any consequence from others. I understand that you don't Believe but have a ((( ))) from me anyway. (that's a 'hug', BTW.) Many years ago I was agnostic teetering on atheism. I'd rather not tell you my story lest you mistake it for prolestyzing but JFTR, I don't hate you nor would I not be a friend to you. Best wishes to you.

True, why can't we just all get along: It's because of EVIL (quite a reletive ideology). I "believe" the death of another human at the hands of another human can be interpretated as "justifiable" depending on your and your society's "theology" and "political" ideologies at the time. God sure did give us a challenge didn't he?

True rap is not about abusing women and shooting people. While I've never been that fond of the genre myself, I have found that the best rap songs I have heard were about the problems society and the world faced, and calls for social change.

khannez,

you live here like a king so no body attack you or profile you as long as you are a good citizen, no body kidnapp your sister and convert her to christain and no body burn the place you live or your business so stop nagging, christains are the owner of egypt and they get treated as a second or third class and you here just an immigrant and you have your equal right as any american