Isreal is awesome. Those guys dont play around. Neither does the US when it comes to nukes; which is why Israel and the US have never been nuked.

Mossad has the intellengence and on the ground capability to strike 'when and where it needs to'. They're geniuses at it. Good for them. They're the ones being threatend in the region, not the other way around. I've never heard a Jew say: "I'm gonna wipe Iran off the face of the planet" and I know a few. Instead they're kicking arse and taking names, and then likely instead actually checking ones off; as "hunting's good these past few years".

Its what Bush did with his deck of cards and it works. It takes time, and costs the lives of dedicated volunteer soldiers and heroes on our side to accomplish, but its obviously affective and important; and a main reason we haven't seen a repeat of 9/11 since on American soil (or anything remotely close).

Obama and Clinton can sit back and 'pretend' they didn't know what was about to go down; whereas at least Bush had the guts to stand up and say I'm responsible for the whats about to come and what we just did - when he started a war. I'm certain as the President of the USA you're 'in-the-know' on these actions by your alies and anyone 'denying it' is playing the rest of US for a fool.

Time to send up the feared Drones over Iraq about now, and keep them roaving the border of Afghanistan/Pakistan till all those suicidal foreign fighters are gone to. As far as recruitment or sentiment overseas directed back at us Americans, who cares, what the media fails to recognize is Americans hate those muslim extermist Iranians' too. We just dont have time to march and protest in the streets for the cameras; as we're to busy being free to do other more important things with our families and friends without the iron fist and big-brother over our shoulder 24/7/365.

If your're our sworn enemey, then by Allah 'take up arms against US and Israel', we've got your address; so see how that works out for you.

Its also time I think for old Speilberg to gear up for a Mossad Part-II movie; as 'Munich' was one of my favorite revenge flicks ever!

There was a mis-translation of the Khomeini quote repeated by Ahmadinejad. He didn't say Israel should be wiped off the map. He said the Zionist regime should be "erased from the page of history." - a political change. There are still 25,000 Jews living in Iran and they have resisted big subsidies offered by Israel to entice them to move to Israel. Iran has a very lousy government, but they aren't threatening to wipe Israel off the map. Netanyahu wants a war, but many Israelis disagree with him. He would need to sucker the US into helping in order to pursue a war.

I read the first few sentences thought, "There are nearly 200 countries that have never been nuked, reading the rest is probably a waste of time".

I read the whole post. It was about as sensible as this:

"The Moon is made of green cheese. This is why there are white clouds on Earth. The Martians are directly responsible for all of this, so why not unleash the secret death-ray on the angels camping in Antarctica?"

Brad I may have agreed with some of what you said, but when you brought Clinton, Obama, and Bush 2 into it, you just shot yourself in foot.

Bush 1 KNEW how to run things. He was the head of the freaking CIA, a real war hero, and he understood that stability could come with distasteful actions. He understood the value of allowing leaders to create their own enemies. All Bush 2 ever did is ignore intelligence from the Clinton administration, claim Jesus got him elected, then play the 9/11 card for EVERYTHING negative that happened during his administration.

If he really cared, you wouldn't have seen that aircraft carrier photo-op. You'd have seen TERR'IST BROUGHT TO JUSTICE headlines. The Bush administration ignored evidence, unilaterally toppled a regime his FATHER helped install in Iraq, generally ignored the country where the figure who actually bombed our buildings was hiding, and fabricated evidence to support his invasion of Iraq.

Then cut taxes after well-regarded non-partisan estimates of the war were available, which Bush 1 and Regan weren't silly enough to do.

And Obama? I'd say SEALS in your base shooting your doodz is a pretty straight-forward message.

Leave Bush, Clinton, and Obama out of this.

This isn't terrorism because no bystanders were harmed. Compare this with how Osama's gang used to do terrorism. See the difference?

It also helps that Israel has a history of defeating much larger forces using inferior weapons. Today they have superior weapons to their neighbors and everyone in the nation knows how to use them very well.

Somebody is just letting Iran's leadership know that they can get them anytime they want.

Charles The Hammerhead ---------------- If someone said you and your family had no right to live and that they were planning your destruction, would you wait for them to destroy your family or , if given the opportunity, would you strike first to eliminate the threat?

That being said, I share your skepticism about Israel being involved. Look for Sunni Saudi Arabia the historical enemy of Shiite Iran to be involved.

Gary: Or just the herpes virus of countries- Israel.

Iraq had WMDs remember !! What a big mistake at a big cost.Why repeat it again. But this time China will step in and that will be it....Why

Orthosophy,

You do realize that it was President Clinton that Gutted President Bush's (Former Director of CIA) Pride and Joy,the President's Own Executive Intelligence Agency. At that time I was US Military attached to SAD, so I know, from Millions of US Intelligence Assets Worldwide, to just hand fulls of uncredible non verifiable sources (potentially hostile other Nation's Intelligence Agencies Counter Intelligence) and the US and to rely on uncredibleon verifiable Intelligence from "Potentially Hostile" Intelligence Sources like Jordan and Pakistan. By doing this, Gutting the US Intelligence Agencies, President Clinton, the US Congressional Intelligence Committee, etc. were deaf and blind. There were Intelligence "Blackouts" of entire Regions, ESPECIALLY the "Middle East" (Including Afghanistan). This was all brought to light during the US Congressional 9/11 2001 Committees, what the US Congress fails to realize that you can throw all the money in the World at this problem, and it has no effect, as you still must take Decades to recruit Intelligence Assets within hostile Nations. With these hostile Nations Intelligence Agencies Counter Intelligence just waiting for you to do so, so they can catch you, the others you recruited, in place their own Intelligence operatives into your assets, etc..

The formation of US Intelligence throughout the World took Decade to form as a reliable, credible, verifiable Intelligence Source, that at that time actually rivaled Israel's. After President Clinton Gutted US Intelligence, US Intelligence could not be trusted as was deemed "Non Actionable" by other Nations.

In many cases while attached to SAD, we would usually have to go in "Blind". With some of us (US Military) attached to SAD ending up with both a Star on the Wall, as well as Posthumous US Military Awards.

So when we went into Iraq under US Law, H.R.4655, "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" to hire hundreds of thousands of Shiites at Iraq as Assassins and Insurgents to overthrow President Hussein, we had no on the ground Intelligence prior to us infiltrating into Iraq. For all we knew many of the Shiites at Iraq that we were dealing withcould have been Iraqis Intelligence operatives. This attempt failed as the Shiites at Iraq were turning each other in for rewards from the Iraqis Government. Those captured were tried and executed as Traitors. This was when President Clinton stated, "Dictator Massacring His Own People" (caption under photo of mass graves of the hundreds of thousands of the Assassins and Insurgents that we hired, with Shiite Widows crying in the foreground. I kept a copy of the entire US Newspaper.). President Clinton as Commander In Chief (over us, US Military) as well as the actual Head of the President's Own Executive Intelligence Agency, CIA, with us being attached to President Clinton's SAD, were strictly limited as to our actions and activities. Before you say something like another Newsvine Poster attempted to blame us for doing something outside of the US Law, H.R.4655, as a unauthorized "US Military Activity", wrong as soon as we (US Military) are attached to SAD, we become a "US Civilian" Agency Activity, NOT a US Military Action nor Activity. It is part of the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces Mission to conduct "Independent Intelligence Verifications" thru Special Reconnaissance (with or without US Military Uniforms), as to why President Clinton's Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military added to the gaps in the US Intelligence Capabilities, creating "Non Verifiable", "Non Credible" Intelligence (not much of us left to do the Special Reconnaissance Missions). President Clinton's Gutting the US Intelligence Agencies and Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military was also why Mogadishu turned out so bad (the movie does not portray an old man (compared to the ages of everyone else) like me running the Mogadishu Mile, regardless of graduating from the US Army Air Assault School (lots of running with equipment)).

To this day, US Intelligence has NOT recovered from President Clinton's Gutting of the US Intelligence Agencies; the same as the US Military has NOT recovered from President Clinton's Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces (RIF) of the US Military that created the Niches for the expensive US Contractors; this is ESPECIALLY true in my US Military Officer Specialty (SSI, MOS Is for Enlisted and NCOs), US Military Asymmetric Warfare, of which in less than 6 months I will finally be allowed to Retire Again with no more Recalls to Active Duty as "Too Old", I realize the Fact that I do not have a Replacement as due to the President Clinton Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military my Replacement was never trained (yes, it takes Decades to Train and gain Operational Experience, if you start at age 18 to 20, you will be about age 35 by the time you are Operational, this does NOT include the required Languages (College Bachelors in my case from doing this for so long Farsi, Arabic and Pashtu) and Cultural Education (College Bachelors, my case Islam, and Eastern and Western Philosophy to cover the other non Islamic Nations.)).

So Brad Moore post is closer to reality.

As far as starting the War At Iraq and WMDs you might want to Research President Clinton's State of the Union Address of 1998, and his demanding the Overthrow of President Hussein and passage of US Law, H.R. 4655, "Iraqis Liberation Act" that eventually became US Military Operation Iraqis Freedom 1998 to 2011; President Clinton's Justification Weapons of Mass Destruction, this is where it came from NOT President Bush. And why do I remember this so well, because prior to becoming a US Military Asymmetric Warfare Officer, I was US Nuclear Weapons, Biological Weapons, Chemical Weapons, Missiles, and was wondering What The F**k is someone lumping all of these together into one category. And I knew just how wrong President Clinton was for using the Justification in the case of Iraq using Chemical Weapons against the Allies of the Iranians the armed men women children Kurdistanis, as well as on the Iranians during the Iran Iraq Wars, as used just like the US Nuclear Weapons during WWII to end WWII, instead of millions on both sides dying during Operation Downfall, the US Invasion of Japan, since I was with the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars.

As far as President Obama, the USN SEALs. I attempted to let all of you know details (the 160th SOAR, Bagram AFB, SAD, etc.), then all the name calling started, so just wait about 20 years and under the Freedom Of Information Act request the Mission Videos (from ground to C4I helicopter), Video Conferences, C4I helicopter to Afghanistan (General Petraeus and Bagram AFB), SOC, JSOC (McRaven), Pentagon, CIA (Penetta), Whitehouse. Make sure you get copies of all the Video Conferences especially during the 23 minute communications Blackout at the Whitehouse, as there is a discussion about certain people during that time. Remember that we are one day ahead here, so that they cannot deny the existence of the Videos (Mission and Conferences).

Before YOU start up with the name calling, go look at my posts months before that Mission, I posted the problems encountered with the US Civilians that were sent here during President Obama'sUS Civilian Surge, as in my getting rechargeable batteries for our stereoscopic night vision devices (not the same as the two eye piece into a monocular night vision devices normally issued to everyone else (including the USN SEALs) except us; the stereoscopic is needed for depth perception, examples: like reaching out an grabbing a slick rope so that you do not miss and fall about 20 to 30 feet and break your neck or back (as happened to one of my possible replacements years ago, a very rare USN SEAL O-6). Or Flying a Helicopter at night NOE (Nap Of the Earth). I also posted why the US Army 160th SOAR was chosen instead of the USN Helicopter Pilots (lack of actual experience in flying this type of mission.). After the Mission, before it was announced, I also posted that this was a Special Reconnaissance (verify OBL was there) turned into a Direct Action (Raid). Just something to think about, do you ask someone to plan something like this that is at Virginia with minimal successful experience in Air Assault Operations; or do you ask someone that survived and learned from all the previous failures, that does have experience in Air Assault Operations (usually with the support of the US Army 160th SOAR), Raids, Special Reconnaissance (usually attached to SAD), Joint US Military Asymmetric Warfare, US Military Aviator (Fixed and Rotary)(Redacted) usually too busy to fly, Afghanistan and Pakistan, etc. and has enough US Military Grade(US Military Officer's Grade, not Rank, Rank is for Enlisted and NCOs) to become a Politically Expedient Scapegoat in the event the Mission fails and becomes an International Incident (Embarrassment)(this is why we keep detailed notes to cover our arses, and investigate and obtain as much information as possible on our own as to who, what, where, when, why, how many, etc. also to cover our arses.). Redacted. And do not say the US Politicians (All Parties) do not do that, "Politically Expedient" crap, I was previously grilled a few times in those Closed Door events, and that is why I will be so happy to get out of this sh!t in less than 6 months.

The effect of President Bush, 2006, amending the US No Assassination Policy to allow the termination of Osama Bin Laden, just created an "Open Season" for any Nation to do the same against anyone they deem as a threat (very broad criteria). In that a "Rogue Nation" can do the same legally.

So everyone with Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) is wondering what does this have to do with the Article. Think real hard. Anyway now that we have gotten out of Iraq (LOL) now Iran only has to watch one border for any attempts at our conducting Special Reconnaissance (that may turn into something else based on opportunity). Oh, yes, by the way prior to and during WWII, the OSS was either extracting Scientists and bringing them to the US or terminating them.

Shane-2818226 - Iraq had WMDs remember !! What a big mistake at a big cost.Why repeat it again.

WHEN ARE ALL OF YOU GOING TO STOP THE NONSENSE. READ THIS, this is where the WMDs came from:

In Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address, demanding to a Joint Session of US Congress in the passage of US Law, H.R.4655, "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998", that later became the US Military Operation Iraqis Freedom, justification Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs). earlier in this post I stated how wrong President Clinton was and why:

Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. The United Nations weapons inspectors have done a truly remarkable job, finding and destroying more of Iraq's arsenal than was destroyed during the entire gulf war. Now, Saddam Hussein wants to stop them from completing their mission. I know I speak for everyone in this chamber, Republicans and Democrats, when I say to Saddam Hussein, "You cannot defy the will of the world", and when I say to him, "You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.

Bush 1 KNEW how to run things. He was the head of the freaking CIA, a real war hero, and he understood that stability could come with distasteful actions. He understood the value of allowing leaders to create their own enemies.

You're exactly right about Bush 1. He was also a former ambassador. He's a sophisticated individual with a wide range of governmental and international experience. That's the kind of person we used to seek out to be a presidential candidate. Now, such a distinguished resume would doom any chance of being the GOP candidate. Now, all that matters for a candidate is groveling at Norquist's feet and convincing a minority of voters that he really does "love Jesus."

Anybody in Iran who has the slightest inkling of what fission is should meet an immediate end. I'm glad that at least when the true anti-Semites come out, they express their hatred for America as well. So we know what side they are on. Obviously the same side as the anti American coward who refused a byline on this decidedly anti American "article". We are at war with Iran. There is no exchange of gunfire at this point, but make no mistake. They hate us, and with a few exceptions we Americans are not to thrilled with them either. They threaten to destroy our economy by interrupting the flow of oil. So I say, the less, the merrier! And BTW, the sooner the better.

yes David ##### we have heard all of that from you before in several different posts....are you a paid mouth piece for the Military Industrial Complex or just a fear monger.

Just remember boys and girls just because you don't like someone else in the sandbox doesn't mean you can throw sand in their face and not get a note sent home to your parents.

Iran is a sovereign country they can saber rattle all they want (it is basically for domestic consumption to control their own disgruntled population) but as long as they keep in their own house then we have no right to go bombing or killing them......if they take action outside of their own borders then that is another matter that can be dealt with at the time. It's wars and rumors of war that keep populations under control....and you are playing right in to it.

Well, I'm not so sure that the Cold War didn't include similar actions, just maybe covered up better. The act itself and its obvious lack of any attempt to make it look questionable as a possible accident, has an Israeli ring to it. They like to send clear messages.

And then I suppose there is the possibility that Iran did this themselves because they suspected this guy of somehow selling out. That isn't unheard of either and it seems to me there was some evidence pointing that way in an earlier incident a few years back or so. They could take him out quietly or they could do it like was done here and then try to point a finger elsewhere. I think it is entirely plausible. For all we know, this guy was a spy for the US or Israel. The way Iran likes to spin things for the media and for the incitement of their own people, it wouldn't be all that unlikely. If you think about it, if he was a spy and they arrested him, they would have to admit that their security was lacking allowing for such a thing to happen. Better to kill him in such a way that you make him a hero and champion for your cause.

The downside is that either way, you end up making people think about other career choices besides nuclear engineering. Regardless of who is behind it, the effect is pretty much the same.

If this guy was truly innocent and he was simply working on legitimate civilian applications, I feel for him and his family. My guess though is that if he was targeted because he was working on a secret nuclear weapon, people in the know probably were well aware of what he was up to. My guess is that we and the Israelis probably have a real good idea of exactly what happened here. It's not like there are thousands of guys in Iran capable of developing nuclear weapons. We probably know everybody with the appropriate skills. You might think of these guys as Iranian patriots and if Iran were to admit that they were absolutely after a weapon, I would agree that maybe that's the case. Otherwise it may simply be a case of choosing to play with fire and ultimately getting burned.

What about the German engineer who designed the gas chambers? Just an ordinary nice guy with a wife and two kids and a shnouzer. NO! NEVER AGAIN to all you evil geniuses!

The Iranian government has had ample time to abandon the effort to create a nuclear weapon. I personally do not care how or who stops them and by what means. The Iranians have basically thumbed their nose at Israel, the U.S., and many other nations.

Let's all load up the planes and light them up !

Knightarm ------- Good point. If , in 1939 , we could have assassinated the Nazis who designed the V-2 rocket or the Panzer tank or the gas chamber , as you suggest, wouldn't we have been better off? No doubt tens of millions of innocent human beings would have been spared in the next 5 years.

Innocent Scientists? The majority of the SS officers were scientists. Captain Josef Mengele, PhD MD was a scientist. He was the father of genetic engineering. Based upon your assumption that scientists should not be targeted, you would argue that he should not be a target if he was alive today? The ideology of Islam and National Socialism is the same, like it or not. Why do you lament for an Islamofacist and criticize a people who want to live in peace? Iran (Persia) and the Arab Nation are still fighting the war that they and their German ally started. Germany was defeated; the Muslims never surrendered or quit fighting. The nation of Iran was not an ally of the Germans, but this was only because the Islamists were kept in check by their pro-Anglo/American government, that is until the Islamist took the reins of power in 1980.

I wish I could say that I could not believe the level of anti-Semitism posted, but I can’t. The Islamists and Christians cannot accept the fact that on day Israel will rule the world and the Jewish Messiah will reign from Jerusalem and peace will finally come. This is the true root of anti-Semitism because all of the Gentiles know their role in the future and refuse to accept it. Every nation loses and Israel wins! Am Yisrael Chai! Od Avinu Chai!

AmYisraelChai, you are just as wacked as the anti-semites who post on here. "Every nation loses and Israel wins?" Are you nuts? Where do you come from? The voice of reason will prevail, and eliminating terrorists who want to get a nuclear bomb to kill "the infidel" is totally reasonable.

Am, you're talking about Israel ruling the world one day? And then you blame others for being anti-semitic? Some of us may be ant-Israeli policy because we don't want to get involved in their entanglements but we're not anti-Jewish. But your talk about Israel ruling the world sounds like some facist speech from World War 2. In my opinion, I think you've lost it.

The American scientists that developed the first two bombs used to murder nearly 200,000 civilians in 1945 had wives and kids too.

Glockhead ------ Japan refused to surrender in 1945. They were preparing to fight to the last man any invasion by those they attacked at Pearl Harbor. President Truman knew that up to 1,000,000 American lives would be lost if he ordered an invasion. He made a decision that the country that started the war should suffer further loss of life not the country they attacked. So rather than sacrifice hundreds of thousands of American lives he ordered the first bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Thereafter , once again the Japanese were ask to surrender. Again they refused to do so. So another bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. Shortly after this bomb was dropped, they surrendered.

Today, many millions of children, grand-children and great-grandchildren of those Americans who did not die in an invasion of Japan are alive and well. They would never have existed if the invasion had not been ordered. Truman was right to do what he did and it was supported by the overwhelming majority of Americans at the time. He would have been impeached if the country found out we had a way to end the war without sacrificing their fathers, brothers , uncles, cousin and children but did not use it and instead sent them to their deaths in order to spare the lives of the country that attack us.

It was not murder, it was war and the Japanese died in a war they started and refused to end voluntarily.

AmYisraelChai,

Israel will rule the world and the Jewish Messiah will reign from Jerusalem and peace will finally come.

No, the Messiah, Jesus will rule the whole world from Jerusalem (Rev. 20:4-6). And you're quite correct, Christians know that Israel will not rule the world, but rather the Messiah, which you rejected, shall rule. Christians are not Jew haters, quite the opposite as we look forward to the 2nd coming.

As for the rest of your post, I have no quarrel. We well know that YHVH Tzva'ot is watching over Israel.

AmYisraelChai,

You forgot the German Missile Scientists that created the V1 and V2 to blow the crap out of the British Civilians.

AmYisraelChai - The nation of Iran was not an ally of the Germans, but this was only because the Islamists were kept in check by their pro-Anglo/American government, that is until the Islamist took the reins of power in 1980.

Think about this since 1933, Amin Al Husseini on behalf of the entire Islamic World (yes, that includes the Islamic Believers at Iran prior to and during WWII) signed a Alliance with Hitler "for as long as a Decedent Breaths", with mutual goal of the extermination of the Jews. Later on Amin Al Husseini formed the Arab League of Nations and demandedthe attacks on Israel as the Arab Israelis Wars. To insure this hatred of the Jews for Future Generations, he and Nasser (later President of Egypt) demanded and got instituted the mandatory school curriculum of Hitler's Mein Kampf taught as a Success Story, and the blame the Jews for everything, "Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion". When I went to College at Egypt to learn Arabic I had to attend those classes or be expelled. Even before the Jews started to show up at Palestine, under Amin Al Husseini's Pan Arabic Plan, the original inhabitants (Orthodox Christians and Jews) were forced out (by force of arms) and Arabs (mostly from Jordan) were moved in mass to Palestine. Later on after the Arab League of Nations failed to "drive the Jews into the Sea" during the many Arab Israelis Wars, Amin Al Husseini helped found the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) to violently get the Jews out of Palestine and Israel. After the failures of the PLO, the PLO evolved into Hamas, and by force of arms removed the Palestinian Authority (this is why the "Voting" was a farce, as how can you have a legal vote with the Hamas Warlords controlling everything with the threat of violence (when the UN is not around 24/7)).

gary-309869,

Can you see why I strongly believe that the US has a Failed Education System and is producing more failed products like Glockhead.

As far as assassinating Scientists, how about those German Scientists that were at Peenemunde, Operation Crossbow, the OSS Activities (Worldwide), might want to read up on Baseball Player Morris Berg's OSS Mission to kill German Nuclear Physicist Werner Karl Heisenberg, etc..

Do all of you know that the Father of the Pakistanis Nuclear Weapons Program just happens to be on some sort of "Extended Vacation" at Iran.

David - Got any proof of your claim the a Pakistani scientist is in Iran or are you just pushing more Zionist propaganda?

How about responding to the fact that the Iraq war was planned and sold by the Zionists, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, along with other neocon/Zionists in our Pentagon. Do you think it was a good idea for the Bush administration to bring in Jewish professors (Wolfowitz) and lawyers (Feith) to plan a war and gather faulty intelligence about WMD. You do remember those mobile biological weapons labs, don't you? Who do you think forged the Niger documents, David? Why do you think they were forged, David?

We lost 4500 soldiers in Iraq, thanks to those Zionist phonies. Ther war will cost in excess of 3 trillion dollars, thanks to those Zionist traitors, who are now back teaching and practicing law.

Respond to this link. This was the real reason for the Iraq war, an oil pipeline from Kirkuk in Iraq to Haifa in Israel, along the route of an old British pipeline. It was first mentioned by Henry Kissinger in the 1990s. They just felt they needed a regime change, hence, 9/11 and the Iraq war.

http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/19725/iraq-to-haifa-oil-pipeline-could-spur-economic-rebirth/

"The pipeline would be a dream," Yosef Paritzky, Israel's minister of infrastructures, said as reported by Salon.com. "We'd have an additional source of supply, and could even export some of the crude through Haifa. But we'd need a treaty with Iraq . . . to build the pipeline."

No more wars for Israel.

Hey RALPHH---- find something and leap from it. Im so over the ZIONIST comment . Grow up and get a clue. Do you think they are going to play nice when it comes to getting a nuke.? Do you think they would let us know? What the hell is wrong with this world. Just because the moron bush put us in a war that we had no place in doesn't mean the rest of the middle east is some how o.k. and not bent on killing the west and our allies. Sad days in this country. We didn't pay attention to our economy and took loans we couldn't afford then blamed the government. Now we have turned into a bunch of children that are afraid to throw a rock. If you think for one second that if the Iranians get a nuke that they won't hold the middle east hostage you are simply an idiot! The lack of common sense and understanding of the world in America is at an all time low. Good job America !Way to complain and fall asleep at the wheel!

Hey mine718 - read these links. Our problem is not Iran, it is Israel. The best link is the newsmine.org. There is no doubt Israel was involved in 9/11. None.

For some unknown reason, I was unable to copy the content of that link. One thing is certain, many of those art students had served in the IDF and were trained in explosives. A number of them also lived withing hundreds of yards from the alleged hi jackers. There was a story on them on Fox, but they were told to drop the story.

http://www.salon.com/2002/05/07/students/

In January 2001, the security branch of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency began to receive a number of peculiar reports from DEA field offices across the country. According to the reports, young Israelis claiming to be art students and offering artwork for sale had been attempting to penetrate DEA offices for over a year. The Israelis had also attempted to penetrate the offices of other law enforcement and Department of Defense agencies. Strangest of all, the “students” had visited the homes of numerous DEA officers and other senior federal officials.

As a pattern slowly emerged, the DEA appeared to have been targeted in what it called an “organized intelligence gathering activity.” But to what end, and for whom, no one knew.

Reports of the mysterious Israelis with an inexplicable interest in peddling art to G-men came in from more than 40 U.S. cities and continued throughout the first six months of 2001. Agents of the DEA, ATF, Air Force, Secret Service, FBI, and U.S. Marshals Service documented some 130 separate incidents of “art student” encounters. Some of the Israelis were observed diagramming the inside of federal buildings. Some were found carrying photographs they had taken of federal agents. One was discovered with a computer printout in his luggage that referred to “DEA groups.”

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j032202.html

http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=9-11/questions/israelis/israeli-art-students-canvassed-DEA-offices.txt

Religion is kind of like cellphones and boobs. It can turn normal people into idiots instantly.

Yeah I dont believe what I read on news sites or the news for that fact. My wife worked in media. People are fools to think that you actually can rely on anything that humans touch.My brother served in the Israeli army .I have spent more time then you I am sure in the middle east as well as Africa. There are things that all countries do that are evil .That simple. Sorry to disappoint you but you are barking up the wrong tree. Look at this country look at Germany, Africa , Iran, Iraq ,Egypt, Syria, And last but not least the United States favorite liar Saudi Arabia,ext…… Any questions? You need a better grasp and knowledge of history. There are to many people on this site that know little to nothing about cultures and believe everything they read. It is amazing that the world has become so ignorant and that it hasn't blow it self up yet. The hateful words on entire nations ruled by the few in power is the perfect example of hypocrisy .We are the biggest dictators the world has ever known. Or the fact that the countries I see people defend payed to have american school books changed . Like the Saudis and numerous other groups that donated money to george town university and had Jesus drawn in as a Palestinian. Oh and the live like a Muslim day .Wake up. You sound like one of these fools.No one is going to tell me or any person with half a brain cell that 4000 years of killing each other and their neighbors is going to stop any time soon.You are as jaded as most who do not actually travel and spend time with cultures other then white America.Even my Persian friends say that Iran and its leadership should be dealt with. Guess you have an answer for that. Racism is racism and you my friend sound the type. If Mexico landed a missile in the U.S. they would be destroyed in a day or two. So who are you trying to convince me and everyone else in the room or yourself and your ignorant upbringing? Have a great day sir. I don't hate any one culture. I think we are all interesting . Their comes a point in life though that you have to face the truth. It is the year 2012 . Who the hell beheads people for looking at a man or forces women to cover themselves because god says so. Show me god. You can't because if he is real he has long forgotten about us. The fact is that it is an excuse to kill and hold power through fear.I amazed. Truly I am sorry for you. Their are even not enough jews on the planet to take over anything. You need to wake the hell up. Oh and check you facts as well.If my neighbors threatened to wipe me from the map you could be damn sure I would leap first. That fight is about the water way. Oh yeah and as to the spying game … Uh america does the same so cry me a river.

I can't imagine anyone with any common sense wanting to enter Iran. And, Iran is a terrorist nation and if eliminating their scientists is the only way to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons, so be it.

If they have the execution, it would a great time to light up Tehran. I hope the first bomb hits Monkeydemonshod right between the eyes!

starter19 --- Iran has been supplying arms and support in Iraq that have been used to kill Americans for years. Why do you support Iran?

As to the recently arrested American, how do you know he was a spy? Describe your evidence.

How do you like that? Israel cares more about its existence than American embarrassment.

Knightarm, I respect your stance to support Israel to ensure it's existance. We and the World NEED for Israel to exist. But when Israel acts diplomatically archiac (as they have been since we and NATO created this country after WWII), They will most definitely ensure their eventual destruction. It is 2012 with world-wide internet. The entire World know nows Israel's sociopathic international relations with their Arab niehbors

They'd start caring if we cut off their foreign aid.

Toasty McGrath, you idiot! Israel is the only thing between your stupid existence and the jihadists who want to singe you off the face of the earth because you are the "infadel." Israel is a mistake? Why, because you are a Jew hater? Eat 5hit, a55hole!

Cut off their aid ! We need to send Israel all the arms they need, all the food they need, all the medicine they need, anything they need.

To pay for it we can deduct double the cost of Israeli aid by twice the amount reduction of aid that's being given to Muslim countries that hate the U.S.

That should read:

To pay for it we can deduct the cost of the Israeli aid by doubling the aid's cost and subtracting that from Muslim countries aid that hates the U.S.

lawdogs logic- we'll pay for Israel's aid so they can help start future wars that we'll ALSO have to pay for, all while our people go bankrupt, lose their jobs, get sick and die, and our economy collapses under the coming debt tsunami which will smash our economic growth. Yep its worth it!

The majority of the cost of the wars we've been engaged in have been the rebuilding of the defeated country. Also more soldiers were killed during the reconstruction than during the actual defeating of the enemy nation.

The only cost I suggest we have is the cost of bombing them into the stone ages and leaving them there.

The reduction of aid that I suggested in the above thread would probably take care of that.

War is hell and that's what I would give them if need be.

Israel defender. Why don't you try and use some logical arguments to attack those you disagree with? A man who resorts to personal attacks such as you did against Toasty is a man who usually has no logical arguments.

JoeCal

Why should Israel Defender need logical arguments?

From what I read it looks like he's just stating the truth. No argument needed !

Hey TOASTY

We very seldom cut foreign aid to any country. We are still giving foreign aid to Pakistan and you know how they feel about us. Congress would cut social security and all food programs for the poor before it would cut foreign aid!!!!! American people could be out on the street, no food and no shelter and our CONGRESS would not cut any foreign aid!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with foreign aid to countries who don't hate us. We are a nation of plenty and we don't stand aside while our friends are in need. But Pakistan and Israel are not our friends; they're among the countries that get Americans killed.

Where is newsvine's censor? Item 7.4 is a clear code violation.

If those folks who hate Israel so much wouldn't mind turning of their computers and throwing them out the window. Your CPUs were designed by Intel, in Israel.

I'm AMD. The closest Israel comes is a member or two on their board of executives, but they're hardly the only state on that list. Nothing I buy is from Israel.

Quote your proof and source. Your guarantees aren't worth squat !

Kevin ----- You're very confused. It is the Iranians that hope to end the world so that the Twelfth Imam will return. This is a Shia belief held by the leaders of Iran and is easily confirmed. If Israel wanted to bring about its own destruction all it would have to do is to lay down its arms and withing days the Muslims surrounding it would have murdered every Jew in the country.

Iran want need body bags - they'll be crystallized !

This is how we are thanked - blamed by the Iranian government. We should stop saving their fishermen, especially since Iran threatened our ships there. We can be nice and inform them that they need to send some of their navy to save their fishermen the next time.

Did you expect thanks? Why? It was a humanitarian act to save the men on that boat from the Somali pirates.

Marky ----"-Who is the terrorist nation" --- That would be Nigeria, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.

If you're an evil scientist you'll meet your fate...if you try to @#$ck with the Jewish state.

Asif, Hitler had a lot of scientists on his payrol, and the U.S. and its allies came in and took care of them proper like. No nukes for Iran, no way.

Asif ----- Iran was caught plotting to murder the Saudi Ambassador! Is that nonsense? Is that sick, killing an Ambassador, really now? Is that OK because they failed? And , how can they now complain when what they tried to do was done to them? Does Islam have a word for hypocrisy?

Killing an ambassador was a lie.

Please offer evidence.

smart sound ----------- Stay informed. Read the NYT , and many other sources , last October. The story may not have been in The Weekly Reader. In fact, it was on this very thread , MSNBC.com , back in October. Hillary Clinton commented about it. Sorry to disabuse you of your love for Iran.

seem, you are exactly right. But Israel's agents in the US are more proficient than spies. Israel's agents in the US HOLD considerable economic and political power over US leaders and their international policy and practices.

Seem and Kevin, you are both totally uninformed. Where do you come up with this trash? If Israeli Mossad agents have a presence in the U.S., it is at the invitation of the U.S. and in complete cooperation with the CIA and the FBI. Do a little research before you post your anti-semitic garbage. Their activities in the U.S. have saved countless U.S. lives here and abroad.

During the 1990s, the Mossad discovered a Hezbollah agent operating within the United States in order to procure materials needed to manufacture IEDs and other weapons to kill U.S. soldiers in Iraq. \ In a joint operation with U.S. intelligence, the agent was kept under surveillance in hopes that he would betray more Hezbollah operatives, but was eventually arrested.

The Mossad informed the FBI and CIA in August 2001 that based on its intelligence as many as 200 terrorists were slipping into the United States and planning "a major assault on the United States." The Israeli intelligence agency cautioned the FBI that it had picked up indications of a "large-scale target" in the United States and that Americans would be "very vulnerable." However, "It is not known whether U.S. authorities thought the warning to be credible, or whether it contained enough details to allow counter-terrorism teams to come up with a response,"The Mossad has a history of credibility issues, before and after 9-11 which continue to influence the perceptions of the reliability or veracity of information provided to U.S., and other intelligence agencies around the world. A month later, terrorists struck at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Israel Defender. Israel was behind 9/11. They planted the explosives in the 3 WTCs. Over 200 Israelis were kicked out of the US, shortly after 9/11, including the 5 dancing Israelis, who were caught filming the fall of the 3 towers and celebrating their work, by posing for pictures of themselves flicking their lighters, with the falling towers in the background. They said they were there to film the event. 2 of them had explosives training in Israel. After an initial broadcast by 20/20 and articles in NJ newspapers, it was hushed up.

Israelis were posing as artists and infiltrating government buildings in the US, to sell their artwork, before they were kicked out of the country. Who knows what they were planning. We overlook anything Israel does to us, including the attack on the Liberty and 9/11. Imagine, putting a Zionist Jew, in charge of the 9/11 Commision, when Israel is noted for their false flag attacks.

I will put up some links to this stuff, next post, for Zionist comments or rebuttal.

Made it all the way to the 15th comment thread before that "Israel did 9/11" nonsense made an appearance. I guess that's progress.

Hey RalphH: Even the loonies in the Truther community reject the garbage you're spewing.

Read this link, phe. I only write the truth.

http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=9-11/questions/israelis/israeli-art-students-canvassed-DEA-offices.txt

Yeah, just what we need another boatload of raghead scientist over here helping us out !

You guys are worried about Israeli spies in the U.S. !

You guys should start a comedy act !

Kevin, your so ignorant. Iran kills it's own population and you defend them by bashing Israel who is our best ally? You make no sense at all. We are 100% committed to our partners in the middle-east.

Kevin, you are not helping anything with your comments. It's just unmitigated hate. You are clearly an anti-semite (at the very least) who prefers to hate people rather than understand who they are and what they feel.

You are welcome to hate me for saying this, but keep in mind... I'm not jewish, so you'll have to think of a real evil to hate me for instead of just worshipping differently than you do... if it helps, I'm Canadian. Hate me for that.

Dirty, your being scammed. Iran has refered to Israel's destruction as ideological, NOT PHYSICAL and Iran has expended much public statements that they will not physically attack Iran

Such BS Kevin, over and over again.

These bums know that Iran has not threatened to destroy Israel physically yet they keep this incessant whine about Iran doing so. Just as Reagan promised to bring down the evil Soviet empire so was the statement by the relgious leader in Iran ... to end racist zionism in the Middle East.

These bums are no friends of Jews and much less are friends with America ... these thugs are little more than mouth-pieces working for the Propaganda Ministry in Tel Aviv or New York.

No Kevin, Iran has been attacking Israel through Hezbollah, a terrorist organization heavily run through support from Syria and Iran. They have so much control in Syria that the Syrian dictator has called on them to assist in quashing the protests there violently. Both Syria and Iran have all but taken over Lebanon as the need it to launch attacks from. The Lebanese don't want them there because their government has been "hijacked" by these terrorists putting them directly in harms way. Since the attacks come from Lebanon and Palastine, It is difficult to prove. The Lebanese know it and really want these terrorists out, but they now live in fear of them themselves; they are being used as a human shield. Whenever Israel finds they must respond, it results in an attack on Lebanon.

Ahmenijhad has threatened to "erase Israel from the pages of history", If some crazy bastard threatened your children like that, I would suspect, after several attacks you would take the law into your own hands. Then everyone would say you are the bad guy.

I am as red-neck as they come, but I think your full of it, and are just another Jew hater.You seem to hate them for no other reason than that they exist.

Guess what, after the jews, we are next on the hit list because we are not Muslim. Think bro !!!

kevin

I guess that you think that the holocaust was ideological and not physical since Iran claims that it didn't actually happen.

Do really think that all this bull your spewing is going to convince anyone to your point of view?

lawdog --------- Kevin and his ilk could only convince morons that Iran and the Islamic Middle-east does not seek the complete destruction of Israel as a nation and the death of every Jew. One has only to read the press in the region and pay attention to the broadcasts to know precisely what the Muslims plan for the Jews and , thereafter, for every other non-Muslim in the world.

Gary

These peoples' minds have probably been twisted for years by the worthless left wingers and liberals in the U.S. These people are spreading their poison through the colleges and universities throughout our country. I was exposed to it when I was in college. Only people with a complete lack of common sense will fall for this garbage that Kevin and several of the others are spewing on here. I've read several of your post, Gary keep up the good fight, i appreciate you.

Lawdog, I agree with you.

Kevin, it's pretty easy for you to argue semantics in what Ahmadinejad said. The Israelis have to take what he said at face value, as would you if someone made a threat to your very existence. If Ahmadinejad is trying to make a subtle distinction, he picked the wrong country.

exodus, the "brilliant light of democracy" will not exist in these countries if Israel gets involved

Kevin ----- There has never been and never will be " the brilliant light of democracy " in any Islamic country. These countries deny basic human rights like freedom of speech, press, and religion. They discriminate against women and gays. They murder fellow Muslims who merely seek to join another religious group or simply become atheistic. Rather than democracy you have totalitarianism as brutal as it has ever existed in Communist countries.

Kevin take a valium and get your butt to class so you can get educated for once.

The nuclear bombs we used were a part of an incendiary bombing campaign.. they were not considered to be war winners or anything of that ilk.. The Japanese were subjected to a continual decimation of their Civilian population to bring them to heel.

The United States still refuses to ban incendiary weapons.

Shandril, you are right. This is why "boots on the ground" and air tactics are archiac in TRUE WAR. If we wish to conquer a Nation we simply need to negotiate approval for the action with China and Russia, and simply utililize our VERY CLEAN ADVANCED nukes to extinct only the human population of a nation within minutes and devide the vacant land up btw. ourselves, China and Russia. THIS IS TRUE WAR IN 2012.

Kevin, you are truly an idiot.

Thank you shandril for your brilliant insight. We used them rather than lose 1 million soldiers to invade Japan. If we were to have sent our soldiers into Japan there would have been 5Million dead people instead of the 199,000 Japanese that died in the A Bomb attack. But perhaps you think the US should have not entered into the war with Japan? Considering that Japan attacked the United States, China, Australia, The Philippines, Burma, French Indochina, Korea, Malaysia, Mongolia, Papua and New Guinea, and Thailand. Murdered over 30 million civilians. Shandril, you are a piece of work.

Your not the first person to feel sympathy for the people of Japan, the power of a nuclear weapon is soul grabbing. Thats why the world wants to control nations from developing them. Japan was developing its own nuclear weapon and admitted they would have used it on the US. They want no sympathy from you.

You are nuts, go back home to Iran.

true, if Iran stays physically non-violent and play the Chess Game of international politics as they are quite capable of doing, Iran will gain World respect and support (they already have much in the US - our own military): Israel WILL self-destruct and be dust very soon.

Mossad did this and it makes Israel a terrorist state. Then again, we already knew that. Ask folks in Dubai. And if you think this is somehow justified, think again. Leon Panetta admitted yesterday that Iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapon, only "capability". However, that appears to be enough cause to bomb them.

You people are seriously going to fall for this again?

yakfitguy -----How does Panetta know? How come he didn't know the dictator of North Korea died until they announced it? How come he doesn't know where Ayman Al Zawahiri is? Better not give to much credence to what government officials say they know.

Kevin is an idiot.

Why anyone would want nuclear weapon capability is actually beyond me. The world agreed that nuclear weapons are such a danger to the destruction of life on this planet that the technology must be controlled. We barely made it past the cold war without destroying life on this planet. If other countries develop nuclear weapons as a deterent from neighbors we will be playing the same game, again. You don't remember the drills children did in school hiding under a desk. People building bomb shelters, all which would have been useless. A good majority of the nuclear bombs we had stockpiled in the United States have been decomissioned, because it got so out of hand the US and USSR could have destroyed the planet many times over. The game has already been played and found to be pointless. The only thing you will bring upon yourself is more fear of death. You cannot use a nuclear weapon because the response is a nuclear weapon, everybody dies on both sides.

If your nuclear armed neighbor is continually threatening you, you might be tempted to get nukes as well.

gary309869: He's the head of the CIA and furthermore, by your logic, how do you know he's wrong?

Bomb Iran back into the stone ages and leave them there.

No rebuilding, let them do it for themselves !

Some people in here are been sniffing the glue again ... calm down fellas, the bear is sleeping in his cage tonight and you had better stop making fun of him ... heh heh.

No entire population of people is "sub-human". Why don't you go back to your neo-nazi rally? Fascist.