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Subscribe to RSSUpdated 3:30 p.m. ET: White House spokesman Jay Carney would not confirm the letter or overtures for direct talks with Iran when asked in a news briefing on Wednesday, NBC News reported.
"We don't discuss specific communications -- diplomatic communications. I would say that we have a variety of channels through which we can communicate with the Iranians. And that any message we communicate to the Iranians about these issues is -- would be entirely consistent with what we've said publicly, what I've said publicly, the president, secretary of state and others."
Original story: An Iranian lawmaker claimed Wednesday that President Barack Obama called for direct talks with Iran in a secret letter to the Islamic Republic's supreme leader that also warned Tehran against closing the strategic Strait of Hormuz.
Obama administration officials denied to The Associated Press there was such a letter. A report in The New York Times on Jan. 12 quoted unnamed U.S. government officials as saying a similar letter had been sent.
Iran has threatened to close the waterway, the route for about one-sixth of the global oil flow, because of new U.S. sanctions over its nuclear program.
Conservative lawmaker Ali Motahari revealed the content of the purported letter days after the Obama administration said it was warning Iran through public and private channels against any action that threatens the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf.
"In the letter, Obama called for direct talks with Iran," the semiofficial Fars news agency quoted Motahari as saying Wednesday. "The letter also said that closing the Strait of Hormuz is (Washington's) red line."
"The first part of the letter contains threats and the second part contains an offer for dialogue," he added.
Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast confirmed that Tehran received the letter and was considering a possible response.
In Washington, an Obama administration official denied that Obama sent a letter to Ayatollah Ali Khamanei, saying communication of U.S. views were being delivered through other diplomatic messages. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
U.S. forces are fully prepared to deal with any Iranian threats to close the Strait of Hormuz, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said on Wednesday.
"We are not (taking) any special steps at this point in order to deal with the situation,'' Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon, Reuters reported. "Why? Because frankly we are fully prepared to deal with that situation now.''
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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Yea, I don't trust our government 100%, but I don't trust Iran's at all.
Iran has not invaded another country in over 200 years. Just because they oppose Zionism and Apartheid you hate them?
Iran signed the NPT nuclear treaty and has installed 24/7 365 camera surveillance in all it's nuclear sites for the IAEA to view unlike Israel never even signed the NPT and has nuclear weapons such hypocrisy.
Iran has every right to defend itself from invading country's that have invaded 2 of Iran neighboring country's in the last decade. If i was in Iran shoes i would want a nuclear deterrence also.
Iran wants a nuclear 'deterrence' so it can deter Israel from existing.
That's about it.
I guess Larry and Curly are to ashamed to be with you after that comment. If your statements are true why did we capture Iranian officers in Iraq. What about the three spies later claimed to be envoys to the Taliban. What is the website for these three hundred cameras? I would like to go online and see them?
They should keep on talking and writing to prevent yet another terrible conflict and loss of life.
Moe...your forgot to mention Iran funding that angelic organization known as Hezbollah and denying the Holocaust.
It sounds like Moe should be put on a no fly list.
Boy, this is a tough one for me. Intellectually I agree that Iran has the right to nuclear power and even the right to have nuclear weapons. They are a sovereign government and really haven't posed much of a threat to the United States if you ignore that whole hostage incident of the late 1970's.
And, as the only country to use atomic weapons on an enemy I don't think we are in the strongest position to preach to others about the dangers of nuclear weapons in the wrong hands.
But, I have to admit the idea of a country like Iran having nuclear capabilities causes me more concern than the Russian nuclear arsenal ever did.
It's a little like being a Christian Scientist with appendicitis.
ON THE OTHER HAND, if the Iranian government tries to close the Straits of Hormus I think NATO (and not just the US) must act to open that waterway. WE can lend assistance and technology like we did in Libya but we should not send our troops. Period. The French, English and Saudis can handle it with a little technical assistance from the US. We'll make sure the Russians and the Iraqis stay out of it.
Back on topic, I do not have a problem with the President sending a communication to the Iranian government, if he did. Talking is always better than shooting, any day.
Really Moe? That would be news to the IAEA, whose most recent report has this section:
39. The Board of Governors has called on Iran on a number of occasions to engage with the Agency on the resolution of all outstanding issues in order to exclude the existence of possible military dimensions to Iran's nuclear programme. In resolution 1929 (2010), the Security Council reaffirmed Iran's obligations to take the steps required by the Board of Governors in its resolutions GOV/2006/14 and GOV/2009/82, and to cooperate fully with the Agency on all outstanding issues, particularly those which give rise to concerns about the possible military dimensions to Iran's nuclear programme, including by providing access without delay to all sites, equipment, persons and documents requested by the Agency. Since August 2008, Iran has not engaged with the Agency in any substantive way on this matter.
Emphasis added. So... ahem... you were saying?
I find it interesting that the United States is trying to use a treaty to justify more overt war with Iran when they themselves are not a party to the Treaty....Israel is not either......
But WMG.-21..Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta admitted last Sunday on Face The Nation that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program........Secretary of Defense of Israel has stated that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program......I would hope that these two would know....
No nation in history has committed suicide in order to attack another nation........
Iran has never threatend the US, Iran is 8000 miles away and has no ability to attack the US.....there has never been a military or terrorist attack on our homeland by the Iranians....ever....
Hey, Moe! Iran has indeed invaded other nations, and more recently than you understand. It was Iran who started BOTH wars between Iran and Iraq, and had the US not sided with Saddam Hussein, they would have handed Saddam his a s s in a bucket. Iran would like nothing better than to overrun Iraq again as soon as US troops are out of that region. That is why Iran is supporting Syria and Afghan rebels -- to try and drive the US out of the Middle East.
Skip, we used the atomic bomb on a country that attacked us first in our on soil killing thousands of our men. We had every right to use it and frankly speaking we should have used it again after the September 11 incident. We as a nation have been losing our hairy balls, if you will. We as a nation need to send a message to these countries that they cannot F#*k with us again without suffering grave consequenses. USA, USA, USA!
Iran is a sponcor of terrorism throughout the middle east. To hell with them. Have you forgotten the untold number of casualties caused by IEDs supplied to our enemies in Iraq. Iran was the culprit. If any of you like Iran so much, why don't you move down there and see how happy you can be being acused of spying. I'm not reffering to the ordinary citizens but to the actual people in charge of the country. You're either for this country or against it. Take you pick.
Back to Basics.....you have that backwards......The United States allied themselves with Saddam Hussein and funded and supported him in a proxy war of agression against Iran...they fought to a stalemate.......Why....because the US also sold weapons to Iran to fund the Contras hence the Iran contra scandal....Yes...we cynically supported both sides in the Iran Iraq war.... By the Way the Contras ...who we were supporting were actually just terrorists who were trying to ovethrow the democratically elected Govt of Nicaragua......
Ruken...if what you say is true...then why do so many Jews live in Tehran and other Iranian cities??? tens of thousands of Jews if not hundreds of thousands live In Iran and they are not persecuted, or treated like second class citizens.......You are merely buying into the propaganda......
On the other hand Muslims living in Israel Are treated like second class citizens....
The US is the biggest sponsor of terrorism and has killed more innocents, attacked and bombed more countries and ovethrown more democratically elected Govts than all other countries combined.....by the numbers...
Ruken, because of the internet; Everyone throughout the world knows about Israel's games of presenting itself as the "VICTUM" of its neighbors and the world. Nice try, but it doesn't work anymore. (even in the US)
fb thank You. Isreal shouldn't exist they stole others land killed and raped the palestines and we let them. Hell we even fund them
usa, back in 1945 we created Israel because ALL of Europe wanted the Jews out of Europe (not just the Germans). Everyone knew even back then that Israel was going to be a pain in the butt with their passive agressive-victimazation ideology and diplomatic practices. But we had no choice; They needed a place to call their own and we took on the responsibility to teach them how to behave diplomatically. Our lessons have failed mostly due to their need to actuate self destructive victumization by the world as their religion dictates they should until their religious savior comes (they will actually take actions to ensure that they are seen as hated by others). Bizarre but true
Wrong!
Iran has attacked sovereign US and UK soil.
Stop lying, willya?
Moe: Iran has invaded almost every country in the middle east with their terrorist troops. Latest word is Iranian stooges in Thailand building bombs. They are guilty of an act of war against the US when they invaded our embassy and took our people as hostages. So don't play so innocent. Their only use for nuclear weapons is further aggression in the middle east.
The Obama family's trip to Disney World is tomorrow.
He must be in a very good mood. Negotiations will NEVER Happen---Disneyland/Disney World is an Unreal Utopia.
Never Deal with the Devil--for the Devil will stick the fork in, till we are " in a cooked mushroom cloud". Iran, the Enemy of the entire World. Trust them? No Negotiations with Iran. All they know is Nuclear Power. That "Kills".
They just stole Top Secret Info from the Drone plane they have kept. Now it is in toy form in Iran, color Pink. Iran will execute the Spy claimed to be from the CIA--- One is being sent to "O". Hope he doesn't think it is real. BTW: what does Pink mean?
Didn't Pres. Obama ask for the Drone back, writing a letter to Ahdinemajad? They said No? No talks, either on that subject..
Iran is clever enough to attack people through their surrogates Hezbollah and Hamas, as well as terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq. They attacked 2 embassies (US and UK) as pointed out above. They have stated their intention to wipe Israel, our closest ally in the Middle East, off the face of the map. They have taken every opportunity to capture innocent (maybe stupid) Americans that are hikers and relief workers.
Having said that, I am hopeful that the West and Israel can stop their nuclear ambitions through surgical kills, and supporting the large percentage of the Iranian population that wants the clerics and Ahmadinijad out. An Iran with no WMDs is fairly impotent, and further economic sanctions can put huge pressure on the nutjob clerics.
When you look at past history, Iran seems to be of little threat to the US. But a nuclear Iran, that has no clue what detente is, and has no compunction over the loss of life, poses a big threat to the West. Look what 19 guys and box cutters did.
Iran has never stated their Intention to " wipe Israel off the map...this is merely western propaganda, minimal research of the direct translation will show this......as Ahmajinadad uses the word Regime and never uses the word map.......However...please explain to me why over 100k Jews reside in Iran and none of them are persecuted???? Wouldnt it just be easier for the Iranians to whack the Jews in their own country that are at an arms length???
You cannot bring up the Hostage crisis without mentioning why the hostages were taken and what were the demands.......You do know that the US / CIA overthrew the democratically elected president of Iran in 1953 and installed our Puppet the Shah???/ Isnt overthrowing a foreign Govt considered an act of War???
There is no evidence that Iran has killed Americans in Afghanistan or Iraq......but it has to be the heights of hypocracy that the US Illegally invades soveriegn nations like Iraq, kills hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and then complains that Iran is killing Americans.....
Steven B.......an act of war was when The US/CIA overthrew their elected President in 1953...or does it matter to you who started it??? But please provide evidence that Iran has invaded almost every country in the Middle East.....if you replace Iran with the United States you post would be factually correct......The Us has attacked or Invaded Afganistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and currently has troops and military bases in every country that borders Iran....
Leon Panetta, Secretary of Defense Stated on Face the nation that Iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapon, Secretary of Defense of Israel Barak stated that Iran does not have a Nuke weapons program
The nutjob cleric you refer to currently in power in Iran is a direct result of a failed American policy towards Iran....
It is once again very striking that nations who own nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction are yet again threatening to attack, and as the article illustrates have already started attacking, a nation that owns none - based on the pretext that they are being threatened with weapons of mass destruction!
Back to Basic: Your wrong. Iraq attacked Iran, the ensuing war lasted 7 years, cost over 1,000, 000 soldiers their lives, both sides used every weapon short of nuclear weapons against each other. Those weapons included both biological and chemical weapons. Research your facts in the future.
Chuckster,
Exactly who should we have nuked after 9/11??? It wasn't a nation that attacked us, it was a group of fundementalist nutjobs, and the nations that we ended up bombing over it, didn't even produce those crazy nutjobs. And, it terms of threat level to the U.S., those nutjobs didn't even come close to Japan and WWII. It was a sucker punch, albeit a tragic one, but not an extended, global, military campaign, by a national force, allied with a genocidal maniac attempting to take over the world.
Everyone Else,
As a member of the generation who's fighting these wars, watching her friends/family get shipped over there five, six, seven times, and also a member of the generation who'll be stuck with the bill after you all retire, I can honestly say, the more we talk with Iran, the better. If they close the straights of Hormus, than we take action on par with what we did in Lybia, assist the Israelis and the UK, and keep China and Russia out of it. Achmadina-However the Hell you spell is name, is a wacko, but I'm guessing he's a scared poopless wacko, watching the Arab Spring unfold, and his buddy Asad's time running out. He's like a teenager who smarts off, just to show the teacher he isn't scared.
It is the establishments in both Iran and America, that cause this discord. Those who actually have to face the consequences of that discord, advocate for diplomacy.
It has never been proved that Iran has been behind any terrorist attack on any foreign country. Taking over an embassy, where no one is harmed, hardly constitutes and attack or war on America or the UK. I would suggest however, that what America did when they helped overthrow the democratically elected leader of Iran, is far more serious than an embassy takeover by some revolutionaries. Downing an Iranian plane, killing 234 people, is also far worse.
The support Hamas receives from Iran, is mostly economic. We have never seen Hamas use even one weapon of any sophistication. If Iran were arming Hamas, I am sure we would see a few F16s or Apache helicopters being shot down, while they are attacking Gaza.
When Israel attacked Gaza during operation "cast lead", they were just about unopposed. Hamas had nothing with which to fight back the invaders. Of course, that's the way the IDF likes to fight. They are their best, when fighting unarmed women and children. When they fought Hezbollah, man to man in 2006, they ended up fleeing back to Israel, like whipped dogs. It was shameful.
Chuckster,
You have brilliantly stated the actual, REAL reason we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Pay back.
At the time the Truman Administration argued that it would save American lives by not having to invade the home islands, but that was just PR. The real reason was payback for Pearl Harbor which happened because of our own incompetence.
It is NEVER justified to use Atomic or Nuclear weapons unless responding to an Atomic or Nuclear attack.
My father died from the injuries he received in WWII. If anyone has a reason to blame the Germans and the Japanese it would be me. But I still DO NOT believe we should have used Atomic weapons on the Japanese civil population. They were already beaten. We could have achieved our goal or total victory by blockade, without an invasion or the use of weapons of mass destruction.
I stand by my statement, not that you would care or understand.
Ruken
There's no real question as to Iran's hostility to Israel but that said there's little risk of a direct attack against Israel the main threat comes from Iranian backed terror groups.
FB-1473462
You're dead wrong, might I suggest you read the International religious freedom report:Iran 2009.
Not quite, I believe he said "The Israeli view is that while Iran continues to improve its nuclear capabilities, it has not yet decided whether to translate these capabilities into a nuclear weapon - or, more specifically, a nuclear warhead mounted atop a missile. Nor is it clear when Iran might make such a decision." Do you see the difference?
If this letter is so secret . Than how and why did it get leaked ?????
May be this is just another game being played between the U.S. and Iran . Someone may be looking to save face with the release of the so called letter . Only time will tell .
Of course our government would never tell a lie to the public. They wouldn't even try to slightly deceive us.
After all, look at history, there never was an Iran-Contra scandal about secret happenings.
It's to late for that,Our people want the country back . We are a proud nation do noi think you can change this.Freedom will always be strong here.God bless America
To get the particulars- go to http://www.mehrnews.com/en/newsdetail.aspx?News ID=1513259 dateline Tehran 18 Jan.2012 to MNA (Mehr News Agency) Original letter handlivered by US Amb. to UN Susan Rice to Iran Amb.to Un Mohammad Khazani- also same conveyed by Swiss Amb to Iran (represents US)Len Agosh and same conveyed by Iraqi Pre.Jalal Talabani. In essence- Pres.Obama requested direct negotiations with Iran- the resolution of mutual disagreement. Unfortunately EU-Ashton was not informed -EU trying to come to terms on sanctions on Irani oil and then US 180's them behind their back. No wonder Iranis partook in Budapest special affair for Raoul Wallenberg- his 100th birthday.
What??? Was there a point to your rambling tirade?
Well Mr. President did you expect to get talks after proving your peace retoric is just that? Actions speak louder than words WARMONGER!
WHAT?
I'd argue, but I have no idea what that means!
96ws6 - Warmonger? What the heck are you talking about?
Seems to me wanting to speak directly with someone you disagree with could prevent war, not cause it? Perhaps if more parties who disagree with each other offered to talk about things that relate to THEIR business it would be a good thing. What are they? Sixth graders who promised not to talk behind each others' backs?
I suspect 96 is referring to Libya?
HS321 - oh yeah - 'cause we were sooooooo involved in Libya!
@96ws6 - LOL Which wars did the president start? I'm curious as to how many you can come up with. And FYI there were no boots on the ground in Libya so in essence it wasn't a war.
Onesoul: War is not defined by the number of boots on the ground - not sure where you get your definitions?
Why can't we all just get along?
We sith aren't too fond of jedi
lol at both of you guys... nice 1!
If you strike me down, Darth Praziain, I will become more powerful than you could ever imagine...
Barack Obama... the greatest American joke ever.
SMH... lemmy guess Bush was the greatest to ever do it?.... People like you drag this country lower and lower. Respect the President of this country. Or, you can always move to Canada or China or Russia where there are leaders who aren't a joke.
Thus the acronym
OBAMA - One Big Ass Mistake America
proudamercianveteran.....he is a joke because..???? He sent a letter after telling everybody that he was warning them both in public and through back channels? Any other president in the past 20 years, except for mabey Carter, would have sent the Aircraft Carriers back into the Gulf and proceeded with the Nato/Israel/US war game. I will take Barrack Obama as president all day long, until Ron Paul replaces him.
Thinker? Not a great name...think before you write.
Funny... the left sees spitting in veterans and burning the flag as Freedom of Speech but unless you bow down to Dear Leader Obama you are unAmerican.
proudamericanveteran - your post makes no sense. I know of no one on the left that would not defend a veteran and our Flag. You're talking about people who are no more left than they are far right.
You pulled that out of your ass, PAV. Again.
How do you call yourself a "proudamericanveteran"? Proud idiot is more like it. Ignorant fruitcakes like you think republicans are sooooo much better.....go check yourself in dude!
Seeking Sanity ..... then you know no one on the left. What about OWS in DC and New York?
LOL I will vote for Obama AGAIN because the REPUKES were TOO LIBERAL with OUR TROOPS and WITH our money.
I still remember the government under GEORGE BUSH asking the people for money to save people from being THROWN out of thier homes after the housing market colasped.THEY TOOK OUR MONEY AND GAVE IT TO WALL STREET.PEOPLE lost their retirement and their homes.THATS THREE STRIKES AND YOUR OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STRIKE 1. iraq AND wmd's
STRIKE 2. 1.5 billion to send a monster truck to mars
STRIKE 3. Bail out Home Owners facing foreclosure because of housing market
STRIKE 4. 1 billion in aid to Pakistan in the past 10 years
Wait one second,there is no such thing as four strikes?
GAME OVER YOUR OUT
Strike 5. annonamous 1 million dollar campaign contributions
YOUR OUT I SAID, not to know the truth is just stupid and actions do speak louder than WORDS
REPUKE=REPUBLI- CON
Obama: 1.9 Trillion dollars in failed stimulus plans in his first year in office, 1.4 trillion in failed stimulous plans in his second year - those trillions were funneled in to the coffers of the union supporters to the tune of hundred of billions to union coffers that were in turned funneled into democratic campaign funds.
Amazing how all those jobs programs were focused only on police, fire fighters and teachers? interesting stat is that each one of those groups are at least 95% union members members. Unions members constitute 12% of the total US workers so where was obama job programs for the 88%??? Ah none existent of course
Hey look Ternan, our 3 auto companies, with their union members, are making profits, employing people and paying taxes, as well as paying back stimulus money.
The Bush, Republican ideas, were to let them go down the drain. We did get into the mess under Bush, not Obama. I bet you still think Iraq had WMD and those mobile biological weapons labs. You know, the ones which were actually used for filling weather balloons. Do you also think the Iraq war was for free? The Obama administration and administrations for the next 60 years will be still be paying for Bush's wars. Bush borrowed every cent to pay for his wars and the cost will end up in the trillions.
Do you think it is Obama's responcibility to start new companies?
Hey Proud:
The only thing that's a joke is guys like you who register their hate for the President every chance they get, no matter what the context. If you are a veteran, then you understand that the President is the commaner-in-chief. As such, he must be respected and supported on that level. When November comes you can voice your displeasure with the President's policies through your vote. However, to demean the person by calling him a "joke" simply exposes you as an idiot.
Sorry but the "President" Exposes Himself Everyday. He is a joke, I no longer beleive he is even calling the shots in Washington. He is simply there for window dressing and to do what ever Soros orders him to. He has failed this country and the very people he vowed to support. Maybe with a new president we can fly the flag in the White House again.
Go see your therapist and quit sniveling.
He failed this country? How? Bush failed this country and Obama has been picking up the pieces with little help from his Republican counterparts.
Uhhhh -ooohhhh. The left wing really goes bonkers with their defense of Dear Leader. Please be sure and let me know what pieces obama picked up? He chastised Bush for a 400 billion dollar deficit and has present us with three one trillion plus deficits. Unemployment, the cost of living, the price of commodities like food and fuel have all risen dramatically.
So please ... send us a memo ... and let me know how he picked things up. Especially since he hired the same fools who de-regulated Wall Street, raped companies and destroyed the American economy to be part of his "economic team."
If you don't want your feelings hurt then get your facts straight.
PROUD: Why do you folks on the Right always have to parade their "patriotism" with macho, jingoistic screen names??? You afraid no one would know if you didn't tell them every minute?
Yea, Obama is a just a puppet of Soros. Where do you get your classified intel from, Mitch McConnell? LOL No, it's more like the GOP wears kneepads when taking money from the Koch boys. How many times do I have to tell you folks on the Right, DON'T BE A KOCH SUCKER!!!
Obama is probably the most UN-American president I have ever seen lead this nation. I have to say when the man does not pay attention to the national anthem being played, does not fly the American Flag at the white house, runs around other countries apologizing for Americans as if we were some kind of beast that wronged anyone, and on top of all that he has gone so far as to say America is NOT a christian nation? you lefties defend who you want but I will be going to the polls with my eyes wide open and, OBAMA You are fired!
Intrepid.. I use that name beacuase it really pisses off the elft wing loons like you. When I was a student at SDSU I was told I should be ashamed to serve in the military. Hence, I have always gone with proud.
Funny, obama, as state Senator, listed Soros as a mentor. Guess you did not read any of obama's books did you? Well its to be expected from the left... reading I mean.
Odd that three defense contracts have gone to Brazil. Odder that they are majority owned by Soros. Odd that GE, majority owner Soros, has a seat in the White House as the Jobs Czar. This is of course may explain why GE pays no taxes, why Soros does not face extradition to Sweden. May also explain wy GE shipped all those jobs to China too.
However, I am certain, since it was Soros who introduced Hillary and Barry to the Bilderbergers, that it is all just coincidence.
praziainDFW - when you make up lies like you just posted, how is anyone supposed to take you seriously. He stands for the national anthem just like every other President has done; the ridiculous statement that the American flag is not flown at the White House is beyond stupid; the US was NOT founded as a Christian nation and if you knew history you would know that.
proudamericanveteran - I have my doubts that you ever served in uniform for this country.
The US is now and always has been a Christian nation, you go do -your- history, to see him going around to ME countries calling his own AMERICAN citizens 'lazy' wtf kind of example you think he's setting? He stood, if he didn't someone would have likely tipped his chair over, he didn't have his hand on his heart or anything he just stood mundane waiting for it to be over. I do not like that our "Commander-in-Chief" runs around ME countries telling ME leaders we're a bunch of lazy people. If there were JOBS none of us would even have time to be lazy. Seek your own Sanity, sane people don't blindly follow fools because they have a title.
This isn't a Christian nation, never was, and no matter how much you wish it could be it just isn't. I know you want it badly, but it just isn't one. You made up a bunch of nonsense to post...hope you get your troll pay this week. Surely you don't believe all you made up...lol.
I made it up huh?
Drink More Kool-aid
Praz, the jobs aren't lacking because of Obama. This isn't a Christian nation, and yes, he does respect the anthem and the flag. Some people don't feel the need to make a huge deal of their patriotism as others seem to, but it doesn't mean they don't care about our country.
Oh, and your "lazy" comment is silly. That wasn't what he said with the intent you are making it out to be. If you don't like him that is your right, but making stuff up or deliberately misinterpreting something isn't going to make others follow you down your imaginary path.
Fact of the matter is patriotic or not he's done nothing but spend more money, raise the debt, force a healthcare bill, call Americans soft and lazy, and pushed a lets let the government handle absolutely everything for everyone, meanwhile at the same time we'll cut from programs we're endorsing like Social Security, Medicare, and Food Stamps. Jobs? Sure jobs are probably not lacking because of Obama. In fact I do believe it would be in his best interest to do something about the jobs and lack there of if he could. I know he's tried but the party of "NO" as you lefties so like to call them keep blocking him. I am hoping it's all over soon and we can get a fiscally responsible, proud American leader with some clue to foreign policiy other than not only negotiating with terrorists but now we're apparently catering to them as well. Read about the Taliban opening up offices in Qatar(sp)
PraziainDFW - The US was NEVER founded as a Christian nation. It was founded as a nation that practices religious tolerance. You clearly never took a history class in your life. You put your hand over your heart for the Pledge of Alliegence, not the National Anthem. Most of us knows that. Clearly you follow anyone spouting lies. How sad.
All I gotta say is PraziainDFW and Proud, AKA idiots, need to pull their heads out of the sand if they think other people are going to buy into their malarkey. I just can't believe you guys actually think such insane thoughts. And to spew them out on here for all to see only shows how ignorant you guys really are. Keep up the good work!!!
Or, a poopyhead... either one works.
onesoul4u2, the really sad part is they believe those things because they want to. Much easier to justify the unwarranted hate when you convince yourself your right, despite silly things called facts.
Doesn't fly the American flag at the White House? What sheer and utter nonsense!
If they believe the President doesn't fly the American Flag at the White House, I would like to see where they got their information? And please don't tell me snopes.com. It just perplexes me to no end that people actually believe such thoughts. I gotta say, that has to be the dumbest thing I've heard / read all day.
NNRRESQ, proudamericanveteran, onesoul4u2, first rule, y'all:
You're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
8 deleted, Doug-1680868 with a two-word equation: 'proudamericanveteran = Idiot'. Useless.
You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Another secret from America's most open administration... What a bunch of clowns!
314: Nice to see that you take the word of one of the world's most vicious terrorist states over that of the Obama administration. Guess you're not too much of a pathetic partisan hack, huh??? There are clowns alright and I'm addressing one of them as I write these words.
Curious to know, were you half as distrusting of Dubya's administration? You know, WMD's, Mushroom Clouds, We'll be greeted as liberatorators, the Iraqi oil production will pay for the war, and many, many more.
NOT SO BRIGHT AMERICAN VET; 400 Billion deficit??? Where did you come up with your numbers buddy? Let's see, Two UNFUNDED war, UNFUNDED drug plan and huge UNPAID tax cuts. 10 years of tax cuts for the "Job Creators" remember? So where the jobs after 10 years of this nonsense? Oh wait, I forgot, your hero, draft dodging, tough guy, Dick Cheney said "DEFICITS DON'T MATTER"!!!
Intrepid,
Dont speak harshly of their fallen messiah. Cant you see how badly they were betrayed? Now let them pick thier next false prophet.
Intrepid.... to answer your question. Look at Obama's campaign speech. I know ... you guys don't really listen to the false messiah you just burn incense and worship him right? You only voted for obama because of his race and then play the hypocrite by calling everyone a racist.
I have t admit, I was once enthralled with obama too. However, the more I learned ... the more disgusted I became. Read his books. Look at his friends and cronies ... then see if you will still blindly follow him.
proud...... - your posts aren't even worth reading. Tell the truth - you're actually Sarah Palin aren't you? Your posts make about as much sense as she did - NONE!
Seeking sanity.
Newt Gingrich said it best. "I know its not PC to include facts when you talk to liberals but facts are facts. Sorry if I dis-enhance your karma. Have the doctor switch your meds to lithium. You will love the liberal left even more.
Let's see Newt who said he cheated on both of his wives because he loves this country so much? The same Newt who had to pay over $300,000 in fines for ethic violations??? Oh yeah - he's the person I'd quote!
314159,
If you had a clue, which obviously you don't, you would understand that back channel diplomacy is used constantly between nations, because that's where many issues are resolved. What would you do? Invade maybe, keyboard commando?
Hey Praz, still sore from the spanking you got on Sunday in the Tundra? You'll eventually get over it. You going to blame the President for your loss also cheese head? What a Maroon.
Proud American Veteran, passing the first level on the first call of duty after a month of playing does not qualify you as a Veteran. Your ignorance on so many comments is appalling Proud American Imbicile.
Let them have their Nukes. Let Israel burn. They don't have any oil anyways.
#11- Your post, at the very least is anti-semitic, but to actually write those words in an open forum exposes you as one of those bigots who believe that Israel has no right to exist. Shame on you! Your hatred of Israel will be rewarded by your Christian God by sending you to hell.
What was anti-semetic about it?
anti-semitic, no. pro terrorist , no. Christian extermist no.
Just really dont care about a bunch of religious freaks fighting over which version of THE SAME GOD is the right God. As they have been for thousands of years. Nothing will change, no one will win, there will never be peace there, so, yea, let em burn.
They can fight it out in the afterlife for all i care.
America has been going through third parties to communicate with heads of state that we are officially not talking to since the founding of our country. I believe the word is that Sweden is the go between with Iran.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it would be nice if their opinion was based somewhat on facts and not just knee jerk gut reactions. It tends to make for a more elevated discussion that way.
Switzerland
Direct talks once again. Our President is a moron! The entire world knows Iran will use any tactic to stall, delay, cause confusion, if it means in the end that Iran will obtain the nuclear bomd.
Looking at it from Obama's performance record on Iran, one can quickly see that BHO has really been Iran's best friend. A few examples:
1. Remember Iran's Green Revolution? You know the precursor to today's Arab Spring. BHO said and did absolutely nothing when the people or Iran were up fighting their government. BHO finally did pay lip service to it after the other leaders of the free world criticized him for leading from behind.
2. Remember BHO saying "that he is not convinced Iran is after the nuclear bomb." Just after BHO came into office.
3. Remember BHO's reaction to Iran sending M-300 Grad missiles to Hezbollah? - nada, zip, ... just more lip service.
4. Remember the Iraqi War that we won and BHO "inherited". FYI - Under BHO Iran is now the winner in Iraq. In short, BHO allowed Iran to become the dominate foreign political power in Iraq by doing nothing.
5. Remember the new SOFA agreement BHO failed to get signed after 3 years in office? Remember BHO wanting to leave 3,000 sitting targets in Iraq? By his failure (and Hillary as Sec of State) the 4,500 who lost their lives were for nothing.
5. Remember BHO sanctions against Iran, the weakest set of sanctions yet and he took 16 months of dithering before BHO finally got them in place. FYI - Everyone knows it takes years for sanctions (sometimes decades) to work, if ever.
6. Remember Iran just last month trying to blow up Saudi, Israeli in America? BHO said this was unacceptable. Only to completely back of on sanctions for this. Thats right! Just last week BHO changed his mind which, again benefits Iran.
7. Remember Afghanistan? Under BHO, Afghanistan will fall the very same way Vietnam did. The winners Pakistan and you got it! - Iran.
8. Remember Iran trying to bomb the Israeli embassy in D.C. about a month ago? BHO said action would be taken. The next week, BHO said he would have to check with the internatioanl community. Finally, BHO said he would not take any action since it might hurt the world's recovering economy.
9. BHO, just last month also had a known Terrorist, paid by Iran, and a leader in the Kobar Towers bombing at the White House. The BHO Admin claioms they did not know it. B.S. - No one gets to see th epresident without the Secrety Service at least checking a visitors back ground out.
Iran (and many other Muslim countries) know that BHO has no clue as to what is happening in the real world.
OK smart guy, let's put you and your ilk in the initial invasion wave. How does that suit you???
And here's a clue for you nimrod, you don't negotiate with your friends, you negotiate with your enimies. Remember, like we did with the Soviet Union for 50 years and avoided a nuclear holocaust?
And it's nice to know that you take the word of the Iranians over that of our president. Obama never warned us a "huge mushroom cloud" as an excuse to invade a nation on trumped up intel.
Definition of a Moron: Republican that insults the President of the United States for trying to use Diplomacy instead of military force. Lets just give Texas back to mexico and see what happens in I RAN for office and lost to a democrat in november.
Direct talk is what we need. Mr Obama promised that he would have direct dialog with Iran. It has yet to happen. It needs to happen NOW. Its long overdue.
Raymond .. you are right. However a direct talk of "how may we make you happy Mr. Ahmadinejad" may not be the talk we need now.
He tried to open a dialogue with Amahammerhead but you never know whos in charge over there. Then Amahammerhead stole the election and Iran brutally put down peaceful demonstrations. There is no talking to Irans leadership /sic/, either the so called President or the religious nuts.
Inappropriate, glad to know you love the muslim terrorists so much. Good to know that not only our prez. is in bed with terrorists. Good to know that you would rather defend the muslims,l that try to kill us everyday, rather then back the Jews. YA, real proud of you! Real proud of our president! May 72- virgins be waiting for you, when you kill an American or better yet, a JEW!! YOU MORANIC JERK!!
whats so messed up is that they have twisted the koran so bad that they lost all sense. they dont get 72 virgins they get 72 grapes. check out a program "INSIDE THE KORAN" find it on youtube and watch it. mind you these are some hardcore muslim scholars who decifer the scroll, the texts. anyway theres a bunch of idiot martyer in hell with nothing more than a handful of grapes
Take a deep breath here. You aren't so polite and respectful yourself. You just kind of fill in blanks for facts you don't have and then get upset, right? Perhaps his post upset you, but that doesn't mean he believes all you just ranted about.
veteran44 - what makes me angry is the number of clearly non-military like you claiming to be veterans. No veteran would ever talk about the President as you have - with lies, lies and more lies.
lol grapes! that's great, there's going to be some really peeved suicide bombers in the after life if that's the case.
Close strait, we destroy ships.
Any questions?
U close str8 and all ur base r belong to us.
The more our government denies something actually did happen, the more I am inclined to believe it actually has.
Did you always have this opinion or only when Obama became President?
The United States Navy has a full fleet and three aircraft carrier battle groups in the area. That is enough firepower to destroy Iran a million times over.
You grossly under-estimate Iran. Second.. they are a Russian protectorate. Russia would not allow it.
Second.. they are a Russian protectorate. Russia would not allow it.
Russia would also not allow the strait to be closed either.
secret letter to the Ayatollah?...."I love you, man. Allah is great."
More like "I'm with you man. I hate the USA too."
Awww, nice imagination. Nothing like what was said, but cool story you made up for fun!!
Atleast President Obama is trying to solve things through ,"Diplomacy". Thats a word in the dictionary republicans can't spell,pronounce or say because it doesn't include a annonamous 1 million dollar campaign contribution.
The sad honest truth is is that it would not matter who will be president now or later. It will never change we are always going to be screwed. this is a new ere and it will never go back. 2 mabye 3 generation are gone because of these wars in some way or form and in the end not one thing was acomplished. Iraq is going to fall my bet within a year as well as Afganistan. Can you imagine all the innocent killing now, all those poor women and kids in school an all. All because of some idiots. The Middle East has been killing eachother long befor we got there, only we are the excuse now. Yet i still have not heard not one person say oh wow i want to live the Iraqy or Iranian or any other dream. And those of you who complain and hate America have one thing in common YOU ARE STILL HERE and you would not go near those places if they paid you. I dont agree with most about America but, it sure feels good to post on here and speak my mind and say the gov. is straight doing us from behind with not even a kiss or vaselene. Not all the crap popping of in Africa, guess who they will be calling, us. always us. heres a thought all those who constantly complain about our country why do you go help them.
Dear Ayatolla,
I just love your frames. I went to Lenscrafters and inquired about them, but they said they don't offer that particular style. Where did you get them...if you don't mind me asking?
Is your turban dirty? In one of the pictures I saw of you, it looked like there was some mustard on it. How often do have it cleaned? Can it even be cleaned, or do you just have to twist up a new one each time?
Hit me back,
B.O.
Obama has made this the most dangerous inter-war period in our history, with the possible exception of the Cold War. Nations are poised to take advantage of a weak US, with an ever shrinking army and no Com. in Chief. By the way the Cold War was not won by diplomacy but a position of strength, embodied by Reagan and his defense initiatives. No one can talk a nation out of their absolute power and control of a region. There are no examples of this taking place, ever. There will always be war, and there will always be the poor. We must maintain unquestioned strength to take care of our friends and deter our enemies. The poor of the world have generations of development and education ahead of them to get to where we are. We got here, by making mistakes and trying to correct them. People are not perfect, and surely no governmental sytem is perfect, but the farther away from individual freedoms governments grow the closer to totalitarian states they become. All great losses of life took place in countries that had the least personal freedom.
Make a list of freedoms that citizens have in countries around the world, see who is most free. Then turn the list upside down and you'll find the most dangerous countries in the world. Dangerous to their own citizens as well as the world.
Pure unadulterated bullsh!t Rex. I hope you enjoyed your childish little rant, I did.
They got nothing, Thermen...they hate Obama regardless of what he does or doesn't do. They take the opposite of the good that he stands for. They're hypocrites, they slander, they don't post links to prove their lies...certainly not the Republican Party that I remember year's ago. A sad, misguided bunch of losers who jump when FOX tells them to and they have become more of a cult than a caring party. Sad, indeed.
Iran reminds me of the little kid on the block that plays doorbell ditch.
it was his resume
Couldn't have been much of a secret if he knew about it. Hopefully, they will close the straits and give us an excuse to turn the country into glass.
Yeah, it's a heck of a lot better to just make up stuff to get to go attack some country than to talk with them. From some of the posts on here I can see there are so many wars and so much name-calling and ranting in the world.
"Oh Please don't hurt us. Pretty Please." Signed, "Your Bowing Puppet Hussein obama. P.S. allah(satan) ahkbar."