Global Climate Change is causing massive disruptions in weather patterns around the world.

It has nothing to do with whether the temperature is freezing or hot in any particular place.

What is happening is the overall climate is changing drastically causing all sorts of weird weather all over the planet.

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hope people aren't just starting to realize this...it's been happening for many many years now

Looks like you got the "this is proof of global warming" people instead.

I agree that the climate changes we are witnessing is the direct result of global warming. I also urge all readers to this post read, study, and memorize the Book of Revelations in the Bible.

Unless we change our ways and repent of our sins we will continue to see the systematic destruction of our civilization.

Your comments to my post is welcome and appreciated.

Have a great weekend

Sincerely yours

Susan Shedlow

Just the start of another ice age. Been happening for hundreds of thousands of years. Nothing new folks...

I would like to sell my carbon credits to Europe please!!

Nick Birke, weather is not Climate i guess you should return to school or start to go, just please look up the diff between weather and climate in English and Go Back To School.

Cue the "this is proof global warming is not real" people

Dont worry, you libs can say I told you so when the summer months roll around!

Just ignore Kornfed, he has no idea what an average even is.

Ask someone in Minnesota if they're having a normal winter.

And you deniers can say your sorry when it's too late to do anything about it.

I guess the Russians didn't get the Romney memo that the very poor were already taken care of and that they shouldn't "worry" about them.

The right is so wrong in so many ways.

yeah, summer. kornfield why don't ask the people of florida and texas about the ever increasing water shortages... more climate change...

And you deniers can say your sorry when it's too late to do anything about it.

Because I am not ignorant enough to say I know what causes climate change turns me into a denier eh? You libs are ridiculous. Thats like saying I know who or what God is. You libs find the later claim to be ridiculous...then why not use the same skepticism when it comes to increased C02 causes global warming? Could it be party affiliation? Yes, I believe it could be

You libs are ridiculous.

Ridiculous? Like posting comments on your own profile praising yourself to inflate your sense of self-worth?

http://rubin1234.newsvine.com/

Scroll down and look, Kornfed has posted at least two comments on his own profile. And they're basically the only positive ones on there.

http://rubin1234.newsvine.com/

Scroll down and look, Kornfed has posted at least two comments on his own profile. And they're basically the only positive ones on there.

Lack a sense of humor Ruken? I'm sorry :(

Mmmm. I'm loving our Winter here in the U.S.

Another idiot who does not know the difference between weather and climate.

Lack a sense of humor Ruken? I'm sorry :(

I just find it extremely funny that one of the only people that had anything positive to say about you, was yourself.

I just find it extremely funny that one of the only people that had anything positive to say about you, was yourself.

I am a conservative thinker...what is so surprising about your findings? Do you know where we are? A conservative thinker that does not abide by party positions, which brings my popularity level to near 0. I do not post here for popularity

what is so surprising about your findings?

Not much actually, because only the uneducated need to rely on themselves to be called "brilliant".

Not much actually, because only the uneducated need to rely on themselves to be called "brilliant".

Prove me wrong

Funny youre fully aware party affilition has some bearing on this but completely oblivious as to why. One party which has been hi-jacked by multibillionaire multinational supergreedy special corporate interest does all it can to deny man-made global warming, which if it were true would cost them alot of money. Other groups which claim to be acting in the interests of their fellow man, don't really seem to have all that much to gain, and will share in some of the economic costs of remedies. I guess it's just mass hysteria which happens to have affected most of the world's top scientists, which make alot more sense than corporate interests trying to sway public opinion.

Prove me wrong

You think a proven greenhouse gas doesn't cause a greenhouse effect.

This is probably why you didn't go to college.

One party which has been hi-jacked by multibillionaire multinational supergreedy special corporate interest does all it can to deny man-made global warming, which if it were true would cost them alot of money

Only one party succumbs to this? Thats news to me

You think a proven greenhouse gas doesn't cause a greenhouse effect.

Water is a much more effective greenhouse gas, in much more abundance. Why dont you tell us why 600 parts per million should be considered above and beyond a gas that can vary to 4% of atmospheric gas content. Also, why dont you tell us why 600 parts per million should overshadow any other factor when considering a change in the climate? Maybe you could also tell us exactly what has caused previous ice ages in earths past, as well as their eventual decline?

This is probably why you didn't go to college.

Way to not disappoint with the personal attack. Classic

Maybe you could also tell us exactly what has caused previous ice ages in earths past, as well as their eventual decline?

Sure.

Indeed, studies show that solar variability has played a role in past climate changes. For example, a decrease in solar activity is thought to have triggered the Little Ice Age between approximately 1650 and 1850, when Greenland was largely cut off by ice from 1410 to the 1720s and glaciers advanced in the Alps.

But several lines of evidence show that current global warming cannot be explained by changes in energy from the sun:

• Since 1750, the average amount of energy coming from the Sun either remained constant or increased slightly.

• If the warming were caused by a more active sun, then scientists would expect to see warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere. Instead, they have observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere, and a warming at the surface and in the lower parts of the atmosphere. That's because greenhouse gasses are trapping heat in the lower atmosphere.

• Climate models that include solar irradiance changes can’t reproduce the observed temperature trend over the past century or more without including a rise in greenhouse gases.

Longer-term estimates of solar irradiance have been made using sunspot records and other so-called “proxy indicators,” such as the amount of carbon in tree rings. The most recent analyses of these proxies indicate that solar irradiance changes cannot plausibly account for more than 10 percent of the 20th century’s warming.²

(http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/)

We went over this the other day, but you're illiterate or unable to grasp even the smallest iota of science.

Might explain your pathological need to reassure yourself.

Way to not disappoint with the personal attack. Classic

Facts are not an attack, but seeing as you constantly need to play the victim, I can see why you'd think that way.

What have you proven to me? Lol

What have you proven to me? Lol

I rest my case.

Had you been able to actually read, you'd have read how that quote explains that the sun was responsible for previous climate shifts before and after ice ages, and how the sun can't be responsible for this current one.

Like I said, you're poorly educated.

KIEV, Ukraine – Russia and Ukraine took extra precautions on Friday to protect homeless people during a brutal cold snap, ordering new facilities and medical care after scores of people have frozen to death on the streets of Europe.

We are going to see a lot of this in America if we don't do something about the utility bills going sky high for those that live in the colder states.

Electric and gas bills in the North/N-East states are expensive.

Wow. You let this guy represent you guys? I'd send another up to the plate.

Electric and gas bills in the North/N-East states are expensive.

:(

Isn't gas coming down slightly? I switched over to an electric system to save money, however.

Wow. You let this guy represent you guys? I'd send another up to the plate.

Why? Would you prefer someone that took special educate courses so you have someone to relate to?

Why? Would you prefer someone that took special educate courses so you have someone to relate to?

I have to say, your personal attacks are much better than your click and paste evidence hehe

I have to say, your personal attacks are much better than click and paste evidence hehe

I did paste pretty clear evidence, from one of (if not the most) credible astronomy source in the world. You just lack the brain power to decipher even the most common sense language.

This is why so many people have only negative things to say about you. But seeing as how 6 month olds have a clearer perception of reality than you do, I'm can't say I'm surprised you've realized that yet.

Link your evidence now, if you can.

I think its time out time Ruken...settle down

It's interesting that you say that BigMowma, I was just going to comment on MN's weather this year. It's been an incredibly mild winter, as in no snow on the ground (and in January/February at that!) and about 30-40 degrees F most days. Typically a Minnesotan winter would consist of plenty of snow and temperatures around 0-10 degrees F with quite a few days of temperatures below 0. It's absolutely bizarre and I've never seen anything like it. I'm not going to speculate on this board about why this is, or how future weather patterns will be, but just note it as the experience here.

Yup,the one thing I can say is that I am soooo glad the Arctic Oscillation is on the 'other' side of the planet this year...This story was us guys in New England last year at this time.I had 4 feet of snow with snow up to the windowsills and -22 below zero F last yeat at this very time.

Kornfed: "Wow. You let this guy represent you guys?"

Obviously not. This is a comment board. Nobody represents anybody but themselves. Nobody "lets" anybody do anything. You know that, and yet you try to play these blame games anyway.

Yes, Ruken is rude; but you are wrong. I'm not sure either is anything to be proud of.

Kornfed, Just to be clear, I never mentioned your name or quoted anything you posted, so I guess you recognized yourself as a "denier". But even so... and I don't know why I bother to say this for the hundredth time... with global warming the risk of ignoring the possibility so outweighs the risk of doing something that it should be a slam dunk. It is denier politics that keeps us from acting. Smart.

Did my original post actually come across as being written by someone who does not believe in climate change? I wonder if everyone reads every-other-word of everything.

Please send a friend invite if you actually use you real name on here.

I can tell from reading these posts that kornfed IS smarter than NASA as a whole.

right Lmarct... some say you can't fix uh.....something....it should also say, you can't argue with it either.. but Like they tell us in the video, we are in the test tube people!

Climate change is real. It happens all the time. The part that is NOT real is the part of the liberal's position that says "American government policy will change the climate of the planet".

Do you liberals have any idea how totally F-ing stupid that sounds?? Say it again: American government policy will change the climate of the entire planet.

One has to be either arrogant beyond belief to believe that, delusional beyond belief, or there is another motive at work.

But let's say for the sake of argument that the premise is correct: Government policy will change the climate of the planet (you have no idea how hard it was to type that with a straight face) How long will it take?? What method will you use to quantify it?? What temperature do you want government policy to set the world thermostat at?? And how will you know for sure when you've gotten there. What if you go too far?? After all, if government policy can change the climate, there is the absolute risk that you will not be able to stop it where you want it. What if we go into another ice age because of it???

Do you see how delusional the questions become just based on the assumption that the premise is correct??

Anyone who applies even a modicum of common sense and reason can only come to one conclusion: Man can NOT control the climate of the planet. Period. And climate is wholly different from, oh say, pollution of a specific nature that is caused by man. Man can indeed control that, because man created it to begin with. That is not anywhere near the same thing as believing that you can control the climate of the entire planet with government policy

And if that conclusion is reached, then there is only one choice of what the motive is, and that motive is control over what you can and can not do in your life. Make no mistake, that is the REAL motive behind the liberal position.

Glabal warming just like human rights is another holy cow!

They crop up when required. Many a times they can dance and jump too!

When guzzling oil, global warming is not in sight.

In case of oil, one has to fix the "global warming" from tail end and not the source!

ConservativeNotRepublican

Climate change is real. It happens all the time. The part that is NOT real is the part of the liberal's position that says "American government policy will change the climate of the planet".

Do you liberals have any idea how totally F-ing stupid that sounds?? Say it again: American government policy will change the climate of the entire planet.

It does sound stupid the way you say it. Restated to reality: The United States is a major contributor to carbon emissions that have been scientifically shown to contribute to global warming. The American government policy can change the climate of the entire planet 1) to the extent that our carbon emissions can be lowered, and 2) to the extent we can "lead" others to do their share as well...

Now THAT doesn't sound so "F-ing stupid", does it?

It sounds tempered... reasoned... pragmatic... almost F-ing brilliant... LOL.

LMarcT: Well, to me, it sounds like liberal BS spin. I suppose you have totally dismissed the recent report that says there has been no global warming in over a decade. But, that tends to be the liberal disposition. Anything that threatens their viewpoint is dismissed out of hand as being false.

According to the London newspaper, the data released by Britain’s Met Office and
the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit indicates that instead of
facing rising temperatures the world may be headed for a “mini ice age to rival
the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th
Century.”

The Mail reported the data, which was collected over time from
30,000 measuring stations, indicates the warming trend may have actually ended
in 1997 and is now headed in the opposite direction.

Your statement that government policy can change the climate of the planet has no basis in fact. There is absolutely no way to even begin to quantify that position.

But, what it will do is make millions of liberals feel better about themselves. Because if they think they are doing something worthwhile, then it is worth it to them, regardless of what the unintended consequences of the policy might be in term of economic and competitive loss.

If the crisis is real, then no country on earth, regardless of their level of development, should get any waiver or exception at all. But that's never the way it works. No, the liberals are always willing to give some countries a pass because they like to pick who the winners should be. And that position is a dead give away that the real motive behind the climate change movement is not the environment at all, but rather that old socialist standby of believing they can make everything and everyone equal if only the right government policy is enacted. And that's the real reason behind the liberal motive.

I agree that the climate changes we are witnessing is the direct result of global warming. I also urge all readers to this post read, study, and memorize the Book of Revelations in the Bible.

Unless we change our ways and repent of our sins we will continue to see the systematic destruction of our civilization.

Well, there you have it. All the scientists can go home now. Global warming is gods fault and there is nothing we can do to prevent it except pray, repent and give all your money to the church.

"Europe tries to shield homeless from deep freeze".

Vodka anyone?

Its to late. It all started when the Industrial Revolution begin. The fly over states will probably survive

since we are not living on top of each other. Good luck.

The title on the actual article is correct and as you quote it.........If you go to the MSNBC home page, they list this article as "Europe tries to shield homeless in a deep freeze"............Big difference one little word makes and one more for lack of proofreading skills.

what the generosity of the 1%...yeah they are going to get my heating fuel...lol

Nick Birke: Are you that brain washed to think that the 1% would help you? Or has flip-flopping Mitt Romney made you believe all of his twisted ideas with no substance? Remember what he said that he does not care about the poor and would cut everything that has to do with them. Sounds like an agenda for population reduction to benifit the republican party.

I agree with Mr. Birke. Although community is decaying here in the states, Americans are still some of the friendliest people around. If you need help, it never hurts to ask your neighbor. Esp. here in NM

leave government out. The generosity of corporations and other people is all we need!

Besides, the government is much to busy creating more homeless.

You have obviously never lived on the streets.

I think it is disturbingly hilarious how many on both sides take what I say as what I actually believe, all the time.

I invite anyone who uses their real name on here to include me on grapevine friends.

Good information for future reference, thanks!

Obama would have created the Department of Homeless, staffed it with 10,000 government workers, gave it a 500 billion dollar budget and end up passing out 50 blankets half of which went to folks who weren't homeless.

The homeless in Europe are very lucky, if they were here the Republican/Tea Party would do everything in their power to let them freeze to death, the Repucklicans would call helping them welfare.

Then why didn't he Skup?

It sounds as if the European Socialists are letting them freeze.

I think the difference is that Mitt being religious (and who gives 10% of his income to his church) feels that churches and charities would likely handle that instead of the government.

A lot of the Republicans that people on this forum dislike so much often give a lot to their church or to charities which a lot of times have pantries for the poor, gathers coats for children that don't have any, gives to the orphan homes, gathers food, etc.

Unfortunately though there are areas that don't have churches or easily accessible charity organizations, there are people who won't go to a church for help or know who else to go to, etc. That is why the government has to play a role even as much as some people wish that it didn't have to. People are going to get missed if the government isn't involved.

However, that doesn't discount the work that churches and charities do.

But to say all Republicans are punks and don't care about the poor is generally an inaccurate misrepresentation (there are always exceptions). They just may not agree on what is the best approach to help.

At the end of the day compromises have to be made. All people are different and have different needs and the president is the president of everyone. So religious or not everyone is American and needs access to help from time to time. And unfortunately the government is often the best vehicle to get that help even as poorly run as government tends to be.

(and who gives 10% of his income to his church)

That 10% isn't a gift, it's a tithe. Basically it's a tax the church makes you give if you want to remain in good standing.

Else you're going to Hell.

if they were here the Republican/Tea Party would do everything in their power to let them freeze to death

This is if they are lucky. The liberals just deny flu vaccine so they can kill them off year round.

nibor...............You want us to "give" anyone flu vaccine...........THAT would be socialism.......Everyone should pay for flu vaccine!! That's good business and the capitalistic way to keep the 1%ers in their mansions.

Many of them are newly homeless due to the debt crisis and the austerity measures being imposed in certain countries.

Mental illness, alcoholism, drugs and wanting to live off the grid, but they have a lot fewer homeless then we do!

but they have a lot fewer homeless then we do!

Do you have any numbers to back this up or did you just reach around your head to pull that out of your a$$?

How can anyone be homeless in America? Isn't everybody rich there? I mean, can't anyone get a job that pays a living wage and provides health insurance, too, anytime they want to get one?

Nibor... humnbird is correct. There are indeed much fewer homeless ppl in Europe. Now if you read this acrticle it does point out the countries (compare it to states here in the US). Fewer countries in Europe have homeless ppl living on the streets. Here in America most states have massive homeless ppl living on the streets.

Your reply stinks of disrespect and/or uneducated blabbering. You want to have numbers to back humnbird statement up? Maybe you should use your time more wisely and start doing your own research on numbers and statistics, instead of expecting to get everything spoonfed to you. By doing so, you 'might' learn a thing or two also about manners and the ability to communicate appropriately.

That's why 101 died in the Ukraine. That result will never be acceptable in the USA.

Happens in NY and Chicago all the time.. Check ur story bra.

Alex It has never even come close to 101 country wide.

I don't know about freezing weather, but in the summer of '96 all of us roasted in Chicago, I think the official number of heat-related deaths was around 750. I know that heat is different, and it wasn't all homeless people, but it is death due to weather. There were so many people dying that the county had refrigerated semi-trailers outside of the morgue for almost a month.

Johnny if you would google "national homeless winter deaths" you would see how incorrect your comment is.

Johnny maybe meant county wide? How many ppl died during Katrina in ONE state?

How many ppl died during Katrina in ONE state?

The ones that died from Katrina were the ones that disregarded all the warnings to evacuate, Blame the Deaths from Katrina exactly where they belong, On The Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana and the people who thought they were smarter than all the forecasters screaming storm of the century.

I thought we were talking about people freezing to death during one event.

Bobbski I googled "national homeless winter deaths" and came up with more sites for LA than any where else. I did get a hit on that DC had five homeless die in 2001 from the cold. I also think that more people die from slip and falls and heart attacks shoveling snow than freezing to death.

That is why I volunteer at the homeless shelter that is supported by my church. Not only do we feed and shelter them, we help with job training, interviewing skills, rides, etc.

I personally think that this works better than government and doesn't cost the taxpayers a penny.

They have a fighting chance. Its called free education, welfare, wic, food stamps, aid to dependent children, housing allowance, etc, etc, etc....

There's also government assistance to go to college.

For many there's just no incentive. The "safety net" just becomes a hammock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_trap

susan shedlow: The only thing that the repulicans care about is what ever can benifit them and if population control would be good for them they would pass every law and would even make some new law's up to make sure that people died. Remember that Mitt Romney does not care about poor people.

Hawk,

Thanks for another idiotic comment from a liberal. This is why us real conservatives understand liberalism is a mental disorder. My name is hawk. Duh, I'm an idiot that believes everything the left tells me.

Dave - Thanks for generalizing from one idiot to an entire group you are looking for excuses to hate. This is why intelligent know that partisan hate is a mental disorder. Duh, I'm a conservative who believes all the fantasies that political hacks tell me about "libruls"

It sounds more like the Europeans are closing the door after the horse got out, 175 frozen across Europe.

Jock,

Sorry . I didn't mean to offend an entire group. I am talking about rabid crazy type liberals. You obviously are not one. I apologize. I just get so sick of people talking about things they don't even understand. Its like the crowd that down talks FOX but has never listened, or down talk the Tea Party people but don't even know any of them. Hopefully you get my point.

The Republicans should take notice that Russia and Eastern European nations are taking steps to protect their homeless population.

and the Democrats should take notice to stop creating even more.

"Show some real compassion Republicans/Tea Party members and give the poor a fighting chance to graduate to the middle and upper economic classes."

You're joking, right?

jackjr.........The problem is that the list you provided is the same one used to prove that liberals are Socialists!

That is also the same list of programs that some conservatives want to eliminate because it "isn't the government's job" to give away money that they paid in taxes to those "who didn't earn" it.

I remember last year, we had snow.. this year we got pretty much nothing with high temps., but Europe gets the low temps.. so idk... weather's crazy..

Cold

PV..........You are an Optimist.

If we continue using resources and polluting at the same rate we are now doing there will not be a "100 yrs from now" to wonder about.

Ozone Al.

Nibor, there are homeless people living in Europe that do so by choice, and because it is by choice there are very few of them compared to homeless people here in the States. The US wish they only had to worry about 175 homeless people freezing to death due to a cold snap.

Typical ignorant mantra: "The best way to solve a problem is to ignore it."

Ruken, Ignoring the fact of the 'cold-snap' during the hunger winter in Europe shortly after WWII? Or when the horses could actually dance on the ice in Europe back in the early 1900 like 1920? Or the heatwaves they had during the 1960's?

Not to mention the heat and drought here in the U.S. in the 30's when so many records were set. What caused that Ruken?'

And how exactly do you solve the problem?

Wally, many factors affect weather patterns. That doesn't mean that we can't affectthe climate ALSO. Logic please.

@Rick, when was the last time you lived in an airconditioned house in Europe? And BTW any type of extremisms should be 'Chucked'. Being consicious about your environment AND people around you should be a good thing.

@Iccomo, your friends mother does not know it actually snows in Southern France? I am sorry, that is like expecting 70 degrees weather in Colorado or Montana during the winter.

I grew up in the Netherlands and their homes ARE insulated against the cold, including appartments. I lived in a home in Southern Germany that had double pane windows. The pain they are experiencing is being able to stay warm while being outside in the cold.

Mitt Romney doesn't care about the very poor, from what I've been hearing.

To Ruken and brazellse:

For those who try to maintain an open mind and not follow blindly one or the other ideology I present in its totality the Romney quote. Try to keep it in context.

Romney's Quote:

"I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I'll fix it. I'm not concerned about the very rich. They're doing just fine. I'm concerned about the very heart of
America, the 90-95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling."

Of course those with an agenda ignore everything he said after the first seven words.

Taking it out of context is unfair to Romney, although he had better learn to be more careful if he wants to be President. But just remember that taking things out of context is equally bad when you do it to the other side.