American pro-democracy workers face trial in Egypt

US Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood's son is one of several people currently not allowed to leave Egypt as tensions mount between America and the Middle Eastern country.

Nineteen U.S. citizens, including the son of U.S. transportation secretary Ray LaHood, have been referred for trial in Egypt in a dispute over the activities and funding of pro-democracy groups, judicial sources said on Saturday, deepening a row with the United States.

Washington has strongly criticized the crackdown on the non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and an unspecified number of U.S. citizens involved have sought shelter in the U.S. embassy.


Egypt, among the largest recipients of U.S. aid since its 1979 peace treaty with Israel, has been told by U.S. lawmakers assistance may be cut because of its treatment of the groups.

AP

Sam LaHood watches as his father Ray is sworn in as U.S. Transportation Secretary on Jan. 23, 2009.

Several U.S. citizens and other foreigners involved have been barred from leaving Egypt. They include Sam LaHood, the country director of the International Republican Institute who is the son of the U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood.

"The cases of 40 foreign and Egyptian suspects have been transferred to the Cairo criminal court related to foreign funding," a judicial source told Reuters. State news agency MENA also carried the report.

Egyptian officials say the crackdown is part of a probe into foreign funding of NGOs. But civil society groups say the ruling military council ordered the raids to harass activists who were at the forefront of the anti-Mubarak revolt and have been pressing for the army to swiftly hand power to civilians.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Saturday a crackdown by Egypt's military rulers on U.S. and local pro-democracy groups could jeopardize aid for the Arab nation.

The 40 NGO activists include 19 Americans alongside others who are Serbian, Norwegian, Lebanese as well as Egyptian, according to a statement issued by judges overseeing the probe and seen by Reuters. One judge involved said the list included LaHood.

The charge listed in the statement was "running organizations without getting the required licenses." One of the judges running the investigation said that investigations were continuing with Egyptians in other similar cases.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Mohamed Kamel Amr told Clinton during his meeting with her that all groups, regardless of country of origin, had to abide by Egypt's laws on registration, the ministry's spokesman Amr Rushdy said in a statement.

The National Democratic Institute, one of the U.S.-funded groups whose staff are facing travel bans, said it began work in 2005 and sought to register the same year but after responding to some official queries after that no progress was made.

However, the group says it has operated openly since then, engaging with officials regularly.

Reuters and msnbc.com's Alastair Jamieson contributed to this report.

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Come on Empire get our people back so they can try to promote democracy in this country. As long as they do it in a designated free speech zone. Otherwise its pepper spray and jail here too. USA don't do what we do world Do what we SAY. The kleptocracy shall not be destroyed by freedom and liberty for the people as it is not the Amerikan way.

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Reply#2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 11:30 AM EST

What is an NGO doing promoting a form of government? Doesn't sound like a Non Governmental Organization to me. We need to stay the hell out of other people's business and that includes the bribes to "friendly" governments we call foreign aid. All we promote, everywhere we go, is corruption. That is the American way and it is getting worse here. We are manipulated so as not to trust one another and are powerless against the real enemy, the politicians. The Iraq and Afghan corruptocracies will morph into theocracies in short order. The Arab Spring will likely do the same. The harder we try to corrupt, the stronger the religious leaders get. Soon, we will be taking orders from our creditors, if we aren't already. Capitalism is its own worst enemy without a government to restrain its excesses. Deregulation has ruined our economy and will leave us just another third world country. Just like Enron in its death throes, our markets are swinging wildly before the final collapse. The current surge will collapse when the goods don't sell. (Who has the money to buy them?)

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#2.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST

softdude -- You hit the nail on the head. Could not have expressed it better myself. What I think we need to do is to start cleaning up our own yard. We have people unemployed and many other problems. I think "charity should begin at home". Stop the foreign aid already (it is a form of bribery in my opinion also), take all the troops out of Europe and other places we have them and post them here where they are needed.

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#2.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:20 PM EST
Ali FoxDeleted
Ali FoxDeleted

Let's get real...if you want to be...you must believe...There is too much belief in this World...I like to say this...It is what it is (NO MORE)...If you try to oppose the establishment you get this!!!

When you try to take on the rulers...you might get the hot end of a stick...or worse!!!

Protect our borders...Did I Say That out loud...screw everyone else..yes, I said it...what is the reason we don't.The problem is...is perception is reality.

    #2.6 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 2:16 AM EST

    FYI - Why are you perpetuating BHO's Great Lie? Look at the latest figures available by the IRS. Only .09% of the rich do not pay their "fair share". Put another way, that means 99.1% of the rich do pay their "fair share". So, the uneducated idiots of the Wall Street Mob (and others) , should be shouting the ".01%! But, that number does not make good propaganda. Continuing strategy of class war-fare, notice BHO says nothing about the 46,000,000 Americans that pay no taxes at all. Hows that for fair? Shouldn't this group have to at least contribute as well?

      #2.7 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 3:16 AM EST

      Yes, purge I agree with you.. You have to remember though, this Country as was stated earlier is a "Do what I say not as I do", kinda place.. So for the working schmuck, like you or I, and the rest of the "free world", we get the crap end of the stick with taxes.. The working poor, have to carry the rich on our backs.. Screwed up form of "Democracy" if you ask me..

      We shouldn't be nosing around ANY foriegn Country in times like these.. How many U.S. Citizens have to be killed, kidnapped, or imprisoned before the White House takes REAL notice???? My answer, they won't, and more people will be lost..

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      #2.8 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 8:41 AM EST
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      The hapless Americans should go to the US and push for democracy, since the US resembles a fascist plutocracy now with the military now being able to detain suspects without charge just like Egypt.

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      Reply#3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 11:32 AM EST

      That is Not correct and I'm not going to bother explaining why...Read the bill

        #3.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 8:55 PM EST

        It seems like Pa La Hood is one of those more reasonable republicans that is not into the T'pubcondino no no no party line. It seems like he is one of the old school polititians of the past who after the elections are over want Congress to work together and take care of our country and to move forward, take care of our infrastructure issues etc....

        Wonder what it is that Egypt wants to let these guys go?

        Hope these folks return these American citizens quickly instead of trying to play politics.

        Peace..... understanding..... diplomacy.....

          #3.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST

          Signed into law by Barack Hussein Obama! On the bright side BHO can't blame the last adminisration for this one.

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          #3.3 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 3:18 AM EST
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          The entire middle east is a cess pool. Bring all our people home. No more bribe money as foreign aid to these nut cases!

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          Reply#4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 11:37 AM EST

          So what---- Go ahead and cut the aids to Egypt; Saudi Arabia will provide Egypt with the needed aid:)) The US government should send these NGOs to Israel to teach the Israeli government the true basics of democracy and show them a real-life example. Israel is the not the only Democracy in the Middle East; Israel is the only racist country in the Middle East.

          Will Americans and the US government agree that the Chinese or the Russian organizations set up offices in the US to monitor the US government or to teach and encourage US Citizens to go against their government and teach them the principles of communism? These are double standards. The US government believes it can enslave governments and other people by the aid it is giving them. The US aid to Israel is spent to make Israelis feel secure and make them live in luxury while millions of Americans are out of jobs, millions are homeless..... Wake up , crack heads!!! The US government is being made to look like a fool; US government officials are fools, inexprienced and losers!!!

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          #5 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:00 PM EST

          Actually i think Israel should send people here to teach obama about the military and about democracy... Maybe if he listened instead of being an arrogant prick all the time, he could learn something

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          #5.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:28 PM EST

          Right, because Obama was really just fumbling around in the dark when he ordered the mission to take out bin Laden.

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          #5.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:01 PM EST

          Yeah, like he helped them or something.... i think he was on the golf course when that happend. If you want to thank anyone, thank the military that obama hates so much.

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          #5.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:07 PM EST
          dadelDeleted

          as far as i'm concerened, bin laden might be alive. i want proof. also how can 22 members of seal team 6 get killed in a helo crash, yet later be in a raid to rescue hostages..typical REMFs taking credit for a job the front liners do..

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          #5.5 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:42 PM EST

          Oh sure, you THINK he was on a golf course. That simply means that you don't know what he was doing.

          He ordered the extra choppers that saved the mission for God's sake! He was briefed for months on the whereabouts of bin Laden. He was there through the whole damn thing. He took over when his predecessor said "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." A mission to kill the man who brought America to her knees on 9/11 requires the full attention and careful planning by all parties involved.

          If you think that Seal Team 6 simply went rogue and tracked down Osama by themselves like in some C-grade action film, then you truly are naive. And if military is truly so defiant against our government, then I fear that our democracy will soon be overthrown in a military coupe and replaced by a militaristic, totalitarian dictatorship.

          A tiny part of me feels that the conservative right resents Obama for killing bin Laden. A liberal Democrat took the glory for a kill that they believe should have rightly been theirs...

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          #5.6 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:44 PM EST
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          hey "holyman"-yer full of @!$%#ing @!$%#..i bet your eyes are brown..i guess when they hang all the fags and lesbos like in iran, or stone people who are in love w/ each other to death like most towlie countries, or cut the heads off "traitors" then they'll be liked, eh? I hope you meet the sharp edge of one of your muj zombies swords..a-hole.

            #5.7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:46 PM EST

            i really believe that obama (who never had a job, nor ever served in the military) had not one single clue as to what was going on except to give his permission for it to happen. If you think for one minute that obama was involved, you are just wrong. I think Seal Team 6 went in and got the job done by direction of military commanders, and obama was on the golf course eating ribs and picking his ass.

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            #5.8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:49 PM EST

            Well then you don't know how the job of President of the United States truly works. The military does not operate separately from the government. Like I said, if they did then we would be in big trouble.

            And besides, it was around 10 o'clock at night on the east coast when Obama announced bin Laden's death. Why the hell would anyone go golfing at night?

            • 5 votes
            #5.9 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:57 PM EST

            KT, Obama's one of the most intelligent people in the country. I think he had a pretty good idea of what was going on...

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            #5.10 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:03 PM EST

            Oh, he sure did know what was going on....and to think, our President supported the Muslim Brotherhood's agenda. I am shocked......NOT!

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            #5.11 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 5:05 PM EST

            As a disabled veteram that fought with the first cav in viet nam i can tell you personally that the president and even generals had no idea whatsoever what we were doing in viet nam with our outfit. We fought the war on our own and the president and his political idiots could kiss our ass, and that is the main reason when our outfit made an assault, for the most part, the NVA took off running as fast as they could. They knew exactly as to what we would do if we caught them and the kind of torture and other neat stuff we would do to them to get even as to what they did to our soldiers. Waterboarding???? ha ha ha.... that is nothing compared to what we did, and the president knew?????? ha ha , that is even a bigger laugh. The reason we lost in viet nam, just like we will lose in any war we have fought since then, is because politicians stick their damn nose in our business and try and force us to fight a war politically correct, and therefore, send us out in the jungle with our hands tied behind out back and tell us to fight this way... well, i can tell you this, i am proud of how we fought the war "our way" and if our outfit was in charge of that war, we would have not only won, but we would still be in North Viet Nam today eating ribs and chicken. So, sadly, we should never fight another war until we get rid of liberal democrats and the stupid politicians that make a soldiers life absolutely miserable

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            #5.12 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 6:12 PM EST

            Blame the UN and Nixon - how the heck do you equate this to democrats? And, you are not the only one who fought that war - the way we wanted - and not all of us agree with your rationale - thank God. The republicans are the war mongers - listen to them - the ones running for president - war in Iraq, war in Afganistan, War in Iran, War in Israel, Syria, Africa, like...they make More money when there's war. Obama has it right...Get other countries allied with us again (after all - they ALL hated Bush)--let the UN do its thing and if the rest of the countries do it -- so, do we, and not until THEN...Bush and his crap about weapons, Bush starting a personal war with Bin Laden, Bush hiding the cost of the war, Bush and 10 lousy years that our kids have died - OBAMA for President - Again and Again!!!! There isn't one republican candidate that has the brains to negotiate, lol.

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            #5.13 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 9:05 PM EST

            If by being politically correct in warfare means not killing everyone you see and enraging the locals, therefore galvanizing the enemy and costing you the war, then yes I believe we should be fighting a more politically correct war.

            Warfare isn't won with the highest body count anymore. If your outfit was in Afghanistan and Iraq, you people would be on trial facing war crimes.

            Vietnam was lost because you lost the support of the American people. And you lost the support of the American people when you insisted in running in and raping and pillaging like a bunch of god damned vikings. I'm glad most of our soldiers don't fight wars the way you want them fought. Enough of them suffer from PTSD as it is.

            I have an uncle who fought in Cambodia. In one of the firefights he was involved in, a little child was killed. To this day he believes he's the one who killed him, and he's regretted it ever since. And I'm glad he regrets it, because it shows that he's still human, and he still has a soul. And if there is a just and noble God out there, then I know he'll forgive him for it.

            Do YOU regret anything you did in Vietnam the way my uncle regrets what happened in Cambodia?

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            #5.14 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 10:09 PM EST

            In response to "Killer "anyone who was actually in Nam, and was actually in the 1st Cav would call it the 1st Cav, not the "First Cav". No one ever calls it the "First Cav" or ever has.

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            #5.15 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 1:10 AM EST

            I think that someone watched too many Rambo movies. By the way, Obama was around 10 years old at that time so I dont see what he has to do with Nam. "Killers" post was almost verbatim Stalones closing lines from "Rambo First Blood". "Vets" only talk like that in the movies. Next time you fake being a Vet, remember it's The 1st Cav. not the "first cav." As for getting rid of the Liberal Democrats , I dont recall Nixon doing any better than Johnson. You might also keep in mind that among those liberal Dems there are Medal of Honor recipients. And there are a lot of draft dodging Republicans . Both of the GOP front runners avoided serving. The Republicans never met a wat that they didnt want someone else to fight.

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            #5.16 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 1:24 AM EST

            Batsrfun, I dont really care what you believe.. Yeah I served with the First Calvery Division for a year in Viet Nam, and also have PTSD which i get disability from the govt for it. There are zero liberal democrats that are medal of honor winners as they were all in Canada dodging the draft along with your brothers. Obama never served but keeps his jaws flapping about doing this and doing that when everyone knows he is so inexperienced he has all he can do to tie his shoes and pick the seeds out of his watermellon. Nixon was a jerk and i am neither republican nor democrat, as i vote for the best conservative for the job. Since obama is a marxist, he wont be getting my vote again this year. So enjoy your socialism, and your military hating America destroying president, but i will do everything i can to kick his ass out of office, and preferably in jail where he belongs for his apologize for America tours. Barack Hussein Obama, the names says it all and tells us where his heart lies.

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            #5.17 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:36 AM EST
            Reply

            I am sick of hearing about LaHood. Every article strongly implies that he is receiving special interest and attention from the State Department because he happens to be the son the the Secretary of Transportation All Americans deserve to be treated equally, no matter who they are.

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            Reply#6 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:06 PM EST

            You would have to seek premission form the Muslim Brotherhood that Hillary and Obama are so fond of,to get the Media to treat Lahoods son treated as an equal. After all they were so hot to get Mubarak out of power.

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            #6.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:34 PM EST

              #6.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:11 PM EST

              any americans stupid enough to be over there, in any country other than israel are asking for it...they dont want us there...get it through your dumb ass thick skulls..

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              #6.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:39 PM EST

              People should; but then take a close look at our own crimminal justice system. Since when, would the ordinary citizen accused of a repeat DUI offense receieve as light of a sentence as 28 days in jail (aka Paris Hilton style), someone who's negligence resulted in the death of another get no sentence at all (aka Ted Kennedy in the whole Chapaquidick scandal), or someone murdering their wife, buying the best lawyer money could buy get no sentence at all (aka OJ Simpson). In all of the above cases, if the individuals in question were of average means, and not considered "person's of interest" the respective trials and investigations would not have gone the way they had. Jon Corzine's activiies at MF Financial, and the sort of "sentence" or lack their of; vs the sort of sentence a blue collar criminal who did much less compared and contrasted would also give example....

              In fact, outside of celebrity trials, most cases tend to end in plea bargains, rather then go to court at all (tbh, even when people aren't guilty). And on that last point, just consider that if given a traffic ticket, how many here would just pay the ticket, rather then go to court, even if we didn't do what was alleged?

                #6.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 7:53 PM EST
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                Hillary and Omuslim's version of democracy. Thankfully, the Russians and Chinese stopped this version from being instituted in Syria, for now!

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                Reply#7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:08 PM EST

                So you'd rather we helped the authoritarian dictatorships put down a democratic revolution? How patriotic, PA...

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                #7.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:04 PM EST

                China's an authoritarian dictatorship, who was being entirely self serving in this matter. They wouldn't want the international community to have a precedent in place; lest the Chinese people chose to continue the demonstrations in Tianamin Square from 1989.... The Chinese would hardly be the country to be considering on the high ground here.... I'm sure if asked, the Tibetans along with the Dalai Lama, and also the people of Taiwan would have something to say in all of this....

                Oh, and incidently, the recent UN resoluion to go before the security council, was drafted more according to the wishes of the Arab League, then the US or Obama... I guess if the Saudi's got annoyed enough, they could threaten to cut off oil exports to China though, unless/until they play ball though, with the wishes of the Arab League on Syria.... China might then go to Russia for oil, along with Iran (asking them to increase output...); but this is one card the Saudi's could always hold, chosing not to sell to certain nations; when those countries economies really on oil to help support economic growth...

                • 1 vote
                #7.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 8:00 PM EST
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                Hey, Egypt you have the AmeriKan kleptocracys blessing to use enhanced interogation techniques on these democratic reformers. If amerika says it's ok then IT'S OK! You might be able to find out what their really up to?

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                Reply#8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:11 PM EST

                So more of the Muslim Brotherhood style reforms obama and Hillary so championed.

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                Reply#9 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:15 PM EST

                "Egypt, among the largest recipients of U.S. aid since its 1979 peace treaty with Israel, has been told by U.S. lawmakers assistance may be cut because of its treatment of the groups."

                So cut it all ready, let Israel keep the peace or not without the US having to pay the bribe!

                • 4 votes
                Reply#10 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:21 PM EST

                Cut Israel's as well while we're at it. Our support for that failed experiment has cost us too many American lives.

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                #10.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:05 PM EST
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                So I guess all that Democracy,Hillary and Obama were so hot about in Egypt is not so cool? Thugs will continue to be thugs.Why is it we have to get involed in every stupid country in the world,can we not just look out for our interests?

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                Reply#11 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:27 PM EST

                Did you miss the group these guys belong to? Obama and Clinton have little to no access to these hired Republican subversives. Even the Republican nominees have advocated sending in spies to other nations to subvert their governments, Secretly and totally deniable of course

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                #11.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:38 PM EST

                Yeah Bo,DUH !!!!!! the Norwegians,Egyptians,Lebanese all belong to the Republican Party,right?LMAO.Put your Liberal issued wallet sized talking points card back in your wallet,you won't look so foolish that way.

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                #11.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:22 PM EST

                Now you know just how stupid liberals can be. they pull the @!$%# right out of their ass

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                #11.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:31 PM EST

                Now you know just how stupid liberals can be. they pull the @!$%# right out of their ass

                Says the man who said:

                they were not protesters, they were paid by obama to stir things up for him....its all a communist plot

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                #11.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:04 PM EST

                what is said there that is untrue? Obama is a communist, his father was communist, he mother was a marxist, and his friends are communists and terrorists. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its usually a duck

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                #11.5 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST

                Question:

                what is said there that is untrue?

                Answer:

                Everything.

                If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its usually a duck

                Using the same logic you must be a crazy person.

                • 3 votes
                #11.6 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:38 PM EST

                using your logic, i would just walk to the gas chambers like the jews did.... i can see where obama is going and what he is trying to do, and its a shame that most of the country cant see that.... but i think there are enough to get rid of this enemy of this great country come november.

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                #11.7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:45 PM EST

                I don't even think you know what communism is. Obama is far from the best president, but he sure as hell isn't a communist.

                Can you define what communism is, killerteam?

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                #11.8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:51 PM EST

                He's consulting his John Birch coloring book, hold on.

                • 5 votes
                #11.9 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:06 PM EST

                Thats funny toasty LMAO

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                #11.10 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:13 PM EST
                Reply

                So,,,,,,,,,,,,Now Conservatives advocate pepper spray and beating protesters inside the USA and condemn other Nations who detain spies and subversives semi-openly attempting to bring down their Government

                  Reply#12 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:33 PM EST

                  BO,still belong to the Communist Party of the USA?

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                  #12.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:19 PM EST

                  they were not protesters, they were paid by obama to stir things up for him....its all a communist plot

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                  #12.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:31 PM EST
                  Reply

                  I guess when you call yourself "ProAmrica" you're against everything and everyone else. Which brings me to the question to the knucklehead Tea Bags: How did America become a Democracy? And are you happy the the US is a nominal Democracy or not?

                  I ask the above questions, because we could have become a military dictatorship like Egypt is now, or a plain old Dictatorship like Syria. If the Constitution wasn't Amended, we could be right there. Fortunately, we had outside assistance and thoughtful people who debated the will of the People and managed to forge a fair Democratic document that was further amended over time. If you had your way, other than the Second Amendment, the Constitution would have not had teeth to maintain a Democratic Union..

                  So, are you happy that you can use the term "Omuslim" without threat of jail? Would you not want that privilege to be extended to everyone else? I find your use of that term offensive, but accept your right to say it., even though it's misguided. I also think your statement reflects ignorance and immorality by restricting human rights to only yourself. And I am very happy that you and your other friends are a distinct minority in this Country, thank goodness!

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                  Reply#13 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:35 PM EST

                  obama is trying to form a dictatorship with him at the helm... Bypassing the constitution at every opportunity and blasting the constitution at every opportunity. How is that hope and change working for you David the communist? Its a good thing we have and keep the second amendment because we need someone to defend this country from muslims because we sure know obama the muslim communist wont. We also need to be armed when obama gets bold and tries to form his own army to take over all of us..... we need to be able to fight back.

                  • 4 votes
                  #13.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:34 PM EST

                  Can you name specific things in the Constitution that he has bypassed or blasted?

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                  #13.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:15 PM EST

                  Czars. take over of GM and Chrysler, forcing people to pay for government health care, took tax money and gave it to union pals, apologize for America on his tours of the globe, class warfare to maintain his voting base of people that dont work, collected education benifits by claiming he was born in another country and applied for student aid, his name, Barack Hussein Obama instead of Barry Soetoro, muslim enemy of this country, sat in Rev Wrights church that hates this country and hates whites..... thats a start anyway.

                  • 2 votes
                  #13.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:43 PM EST

                  Killerteam,

                  You criticize Obama for supporting the abdication of a dictator in Egypt and for supporting the democratically elected government. Then you criticize Obama for (supposedly) trying to overthrow a democratically elected government in order to set himself up as dictator.

                  Care to explain? Are you in favor of democracy or dictatorship? Do you actually have positions that are your own? Or are you merely another anti-Obama poster who opposes everything he does even when a great deal of cognitive dissonance is required to hold your positions? I'm leaning towards the latter.

                  • 6 votes
                  #13.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:47 PM EST
                  dadelDeleted

                  not forgetting how if he doesnt get his way (cabinet appointments) HE GOES AROUND THE CONSTITUTION..

                  • 2 votes
                  #13.6 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:52 PM EST

                  I am against obama and his setting himself up as King of this country. I am against socialism, and i am against he class warfare against the workers of this country. I am against his and his wifes racism and against his friendship with convicted terrorists and communists. I am against his arrogance and his disregard for the flag of this country. I am against his health care program that forces people to buy something from the government. Frankly i am against obama and his liberal democrat partners on anything they want to do in this country because if its good for them, its bad for this country.

                  • 1 vote
                  #13.7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:57 PM EST

                  Got any, you know, evidence to support your claims, KT?

                  What's that? Yeah, I didn't think you did...

                  • 4 votes
                  #13.8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:08 PM EST

                  Killer, You still didn't answer about anything he did against the Constitution. You just went on a rant. Czars... They were called that during the Bush admin by Fox. He did not take over GM anymore than Bush took over the banks with that bailout or Reagan took over Chrysler in the 80s when he bailed them out. Education benefits by claiming birth in another country? Are you still on the birther thing? The Constitution says that there shall be no religious test for the office of the President so even if he were a Muslim it is not against the Constitution.. Do you have any facts? You don't like his name? You don't like his church? These are the best that you can come up with?

                  • 3 votes
                  #13.9 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:11 PM EST

                  dadel, Did the republican tea party congress pass that before Obama signed it so they are also trashing the Constitution?

                  divemaster, Bush did way more recess appointments than Obama has.

                  • 3 votes
                  #13.10 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:18 PM EST

                  Killerteam -

                  You are against a lot of things. Most of which aren't real.

                  I am against obama and his setting himself up as King of this country.

                  This is crazy.

                  I am against socialism

                  You can be against socialism - that's fine.

                  i am against he class warfare against the workers of this country.

                  So, workers of this country - unite? See your above position.

                  I am against his and his wifes racism and against his friendship with convicted terrorists and communists.

                  Please explain how he or his wife are racist? Is it Rev. Wright? Is it his wife's doctoral thesis? First of all, Rev. Wright's rhetoric can only exist in the first place because of racism on the part of white people. Secondly, his wife's thesis is not racist.

                  I am against his arrogance and his disregard for the flag of this country.

                  I am against arrogance, but being educated is not the same as being arrogant. I'll be honest, I really couldn't care less about the flag - to me it's just a symbol. Putting so much value in a piece of cloth is a bit silly in my own opinion. However, I don't think that Obama shares my own disregard for the flag.

                  I am against his health care program that forces people to buy something from the government.

                  Careful, your ignorance is showing. The government isn't selling anything, you must buy insurance from private insurance companies, not the government.

                  • 6 votes
                  #13.11 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:37 PM EST

                  Technically, we live in a republic (representative democracy), rather then the traditional idea of a democracy; but that's sort of a mote point these days... The distinction is seldom brought up in recent generations....

                  Some people, would want anything, from which they can critisize Obama; and by a like token I think on the other side, some would have looked for anything to critisize Bush as well... It doesn't mean everything is always in either's direct sphere of control however... Truth be told though, we had one other thing following the American Revolution; time to develop as a country. And we didn't do it in a year or so... Our first government (Articles of Confederation) was a monumenal failure, that we scrapped, and began again. I think some forget that, wanting instant answers with a "but if you're going to get rid of a dictator...we want everything ready built, so we feel safe without uncertainty entering into it". There was no such rush, and there was no gaurentee when Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence.... Course in their day, there were no microwaves, or instantanious gratification; so perhaps people were more accustomed to showing a degree of patiences vs expecting everything NOW!!!! Not everything can be done as quickly as one can microwave a TV dinner though....

                  Even AFTER the 1790s, our nation needed time to mature and grow. Civil war? We had it, some 60 years or so after Washington was sworn into office, race wars, we were yet to have. We grew and moved on. We shouldn't expect every country (outside ourselves) to have an uneventful growth period, or advocate leaving them in dictatorships under dictators that we form treaties with and are in agreement with (in devil's bargains) simply because there might be rough times ahead, as people's find their own way.... The biggest thing for us, is following the political foment (and even arguably the period of soul searching which took place following Payne's publishing of the political cartoon "Common Sense"), we had to find our own way; we had to come to discover who we are as a people. Self discovery isn't something that happens over night; or every kid, adolescent, and young adult would know who they are as an individual; without ever having to grow as a person over the course of their lifetime....

                  • 1 vote
                  #13.12 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 8:19 PM EST

                  Hey you libs..... when are we gonna see a budget from Obama, or does he just have a blank check to keep on spending until China takes us over? I know this administration does not want you people to pay attention to this, because he needs to buy all the votes he can get from his favorite people in the ghetto, and the people in this country that dont work, so obama is in full campaign, spending, buying votes wherever he can. Now obama is gonna fix your mortgage, and give away college educations if you vote for him and it gets more humerous every day listening to the liar that promises you the world even though we are dead broke. Great president, right, damn marxist is what he is and read his books to see just how bad he is.

                    #13.13 - Mon Feb 6, 2012 9:33 AM EST
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                    Bo & David,

                    Are you guys just having a bad day or what. The article is about how supporters of the democracy movement are being held in Egypt. This was the pro-democracy movement called Arab Spring that you so ardently supported. Now the democratic movement has failed and the Muslim Brotherhood is consolidating power. Big shock. BTW it was the Muslim Brotherhood in the Egyptian military that assassinated Sadat who was trying to bring reforms and peace in the Middle-East.

                    So how that equates to Tea Party and the GOP? Stick with subject at hand and not your biases and close-minded hatred.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#14 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:49 PM EST

                    No the article is about Republican spies not affiliated with the USA were caught trying to subvert a Government, The International Republican Institute is a GOP organization, NOT a US agency.

                      #14.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:56 PM EST

                      Pretty funny that Newt openly advocated sending this same group into Iran to destroy nuclear facilities and subvert their Government, With all of the other Republican candidates nodding their heads in agreement. Then actually add'd "Totally Deniable",,,,,,,,Newt is sharp isn't he? LOL

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:00 PM EST

                      Yep.. those evil Republicans promoting democracy! They should be promoting Socialism right? I think if you try and recall, we had to send Clinton to bail out two women from North Korea.

                      Everything is a conspiracy right? Maybe a little too much Oliver Stone in your life?

                      • 7 votes
                      #14.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:05 PM EST

                      International Republican Organization, Non-Government Organization (NGO)

                      Created and supported by the International Republican party, Maybe you are in denial?

                        #14.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:14 PM EST

                        Bo -

                        Do you have any proof that these people are republicans?

                        It seems to me that LaHood is democrat as he is Transportation Secretary under Obama and representative of Obama's 'values' (which you seem to idolize). Considering that LaHood's son was raised by LaHood, wouldn't he have been raised with that same belief system?

                        That would make him democrat, not republican.

                        I do understand that you hate republicans - and that is your right, but expect to be challenged on your hatred by those who feel differently than you.

                          #14.5 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:27 PM EST

                          Whoever they are, they do not have any rights in Egypt. Apologize to Egypt for letting these bozos over there and promise to keep them in America if they will just give them back.

                          Stop sending bozos overseas to meddle in other peoples societies. Missionaries included.

                          • 3 votes
                          #14.6 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:45 PM EST

                          Here Tammy,,,,,,,,Wake up, Will ya?

                          Not only is Ray LaHood a Republican he helped pass the subsidies for this "NGO"

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_LaHood

                          I have no problem with ANYONE challenging anything I post ever, Go for it

                          • 2 votes
                          #14.7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST

                          LOL.Bo,did you miss the part where the 40 actually work for the National DEMOCRATIC Institute.Guess you missed that,huh????Read the article,you'll look smarter

                          • 4 votes
                          #14.8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:37 PM EST

                          if it wernt for republicans this country would already be a socialst state where no one works. someone has to work if you want tax money. I dont suppose idiots like yourself has even bothered to see what socialism is doing to Europe and Greece, but you think democrats are the answer to everything, better see what they stand for and what they promote... Its not democracy, its socialism. And.... by the way... id love to see us carpet bomb Iran like real soon. Best thing ever to happen to that country that has been a thorn in our side since jimmy carter played kissy face with them

                          • 5 votes
                          #14.9 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:40 PM EST

                          I find this ironic... For years, people were saying the mission in Iraq would take time, and we just need to be patient.... Following one insurgency after another, stay the course and give it time... But in Egypt, even though it was the people who lead their own revolution, it's a "failure" unless things go a certain way instantaniously.... As if such matters can ever be instantaniously gratified....

                          So I guess, by this definiation, the day the United States fell into civil war, the American Revolution was a failure; even if things eventually did work out.... Because it didn't all work out right away, and we ourselves made compromises that would be barbaric by today's standards, such as on the issue of slavery, provisions in the Constitution suggesting that blacks are 3/5ths of a person, and denied citizenship rights to an entire class of people born in this country....

                          We ourselves, couldn't have met some of the demands some would place on others; before considering (in our fore bearers day it would have been cedeing from the crown of England). Not every problem can be instantly codified in a computer database, and solved in an instant by hitting the enter key. Some things, still do take time. And evolution (which ideally is what will manifest in the Middle East) is one of those things. It isn't like we ourselves grew out of the dark ages, skipped through the renasaunce, and wound up in the 20th or 21st century in a year....

                          Yes, some might forget; but before the renasaunce, our own ancestors were burning people at the stake for witchery, believed black death was a judgement of God, and were killing cats (supposedly the devil's familiars) when the cats were helping to hold the real carriers of the plague in check :o Oh and they had inventions such as the rack, also; to speak of barberism.... To be honest, Europe wasn't a civilised continent in the 13 hundreds; if one wanted a civilised people, one would have been better looking to China, India, and even some of the native American cultures, in those centuries....

                          • 1 vote
                          #14.10 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 8:35 PM EST
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                          Time for a wake up call Republicans, I've seen several post trying to lay this on Obama or Clinton when in reality this was done by subversives hired and trained by the International Republican Institute, A non-government organization or NGO

                            Reply#15 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:51 PM EST

                            Yep,

                            The President of the United States, who demanded that Mubarek step down, and the Secretary of State who ran back and forth garnering support for the uprising, really had nothing to do with this. Why even the President stated that the conservatives were over-reacting and the Muslim Brotherhood was only a minor faction (now they control all of the power) and were reformers. Hillary stated emphatically that the Muslim Brotherhood would not be able to gain power because they were too small.

                            Yep they had nothing to do with this. Mubarek was over thrown by a a dozen college students from the U.S.

                            Seriously, you are cracking me up.

                            • 6 votes
                            #15.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:14 PM EST

                            You are hilarious, Trying to compare Democratic Government diplomacy with the UN to Republican non-Government subversives (with a few billion in their pockets)

                            • 1 vote
                            #15.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:18 PM EST

                            Sorry to disappoint you Bo but the IRI is mostly funded by the US Government through USAID. It's a State Department program.

                            • 1 vote
                            #15.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:25 PM EST

                            No, They are "partially" funded by the US Government, Passed by,,,,,,,,Republicans during their majority, Which funding should be cut immediately if they can find where it is (and probably will be) considering they are a registered NGO

                            • 1 vote
                            #15.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST

                            Bo -

                            Face it, your bigotry has been shown for what it is - irrational hatred of anyone who does not agree with you.

                            You need help. Perhaps you should seek it.

                            • 2 votes
                            #15.5 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST

                            Simple facts are on my side Tammy, Being in denial does not change the fact that the International Republican Institute is a Republican sponsered NGO and NOT a Government agency

                            • 1 vote
                            #15.6 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:37 PM EST

                            No one is so blind as he who will not see. IRI is a State Department sponsored NGO. It 's not connected with the Government the same way Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, the Fed and the SEC are not connected to the Government. They all do the Government's bidding with a very thin layer of deniability, except in this case the State Department isn't denying anything.

                              #15.7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:54 PM EST

                              With funding passed with a Republican majority and buried in deep

                              • 1 vote
                              #15.8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:12 PM EST

                              Bo -

                              Funding has been continuous since Reagan was President through a variety of Administrations and Congresses both Republican and Democratic controlled. Obama is the same President who authorized the violation other nations' sovereign space to facilitate the assassination of US and foreign citizens. The State Department works for Obama. The budget requests to keep these activities funded originates in the administration.

                              • 2 votes
                              #15.9 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:25 PM EST

                              Bo 1925019 is a hired poster of George Soros "Media Matters" organization and makes a living on blogs getting paid to post anti Republican rhetoric.Apparently Liberalsdon't think they have anyone smart enough so they hire people to doit.

                              • 5 votes
                              #15.10 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:26 PM EST

                              Wouldn't that make him a Non-liberal Organization?

                              • 1 vote
                              #15.11 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:34 PM EST

                              Bo, don't you think we've seen enough of the bickering and partisanship? And yet here you are, adding to it again... I might have issue with some insisting that to not be a failure, everything must come together in a certain way, with the sort of instantanious gratification we've got used to in our daily lives given all the modern conveniences, like a microwave.... But this doesn't mean I'm interested in "taking sides" in this political football match which seems to be going on.

                              If you want to cheerlead for this or that side; perhaps you should turn on the Super Bowl, and say whether you're routing for the Giants or the Patriots? This blame game that seems to go on between the Dems and the Repubs solves nothing; and this really is adding to it/akin to poking people with a stick, to get a rise/continue the rivalries....

                              • 1 vote
                              #15.12 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 8:51 PM EST
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                              Egypt should expell these people, not put them on trial.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#16 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 12:58 PM EST

                              Egypt is a sovereign nation, the last I heard. The people were caught breaking Egyptian law.

                              There's an old adage - Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

                              • 3 votes
                              #16.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:30 PM EST
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                              probably some of the same people that take vacation hikes on the iraq and iran border. duhh!

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#17 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:05 PM EST

                              The so called American "pro-democracy" groups have no right to interfere in another country's business. They get just what they deserve.

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#18 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:12 PM EST

                              Like Al Gore's girls that obama had to rescue from North Korea?

                              • 3 votes
                              #18.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:15 PM EST

                              Subliminal,

                              So obama and Hillary should just shut up about Syria right? Should we apologize to Libya for bombing their people?

                              • 3 votes
                              #18.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:17 PM EST

                              The International Republican Institute DOES NOT spread Democracy, That is a laughable statement in itself

                                #18.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:22 PM EST

                                Bo, i think you have swallowed a little bit too much of Barny Frank....... spit it out.

                                • 5 votes
                                #18.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:42 PM EST
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                                Comment author avatarFreakz11114via Facebook

                                HEYYYY!!!!! EGYPT!!!!!

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#19 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:19 PM EST

                                Obamas comrades in the Muslim brotherhood will have none of this democracy nonsense.

                                • 7 votes
                                Reply#20 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:22 PM EST

                                The International Republican Institute spreading Democracy,,,,,,,What is wrong with that picture, LOL

                                • 1 vote
                                #20.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:26 PM EST

                                Obamas Czars... whats wrong with that picture?

                                • 3 votes
                                #20.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST

                                Czars, a made up name from Fox. They called them the same thing during the Bush years.

                                • 1 vote
                                #20.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 8:46 PM EST
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                                We have given Egypt billions in money that we do not even have these days so that they could push toward Democracy and rebuild theirr country into something better. What they are clearly saying is that the have no intention of changing and pro democracy groups are not wanted there. Let's find a way to get La Hood and the others out and then cut every damn we have with them. I don't understand why President Obama and Sec Clinton have not said emphatically that we are cutting ties unless they release all of those they are holding. Then, once we get the group out, DO NOT GIVE THEM ANOTHER DIME-------not another dime. We have no business funding a dictatorship anywhere in the world. Lean on the President .

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#21 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:24 PM EST

                                We need to stop giving ANY OTHER NATION a dime or a grain of wheat until we can afford our own bills and feed ourselves, We were there when Bush took office, We will be again at the end of this year thanks to Obama (By the way, I am NOT a Democrat, lol)

                                  #21.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST

                                  You've really faced a lot of challenges in life haven't you? Your posts are so funny I know you don't believe it yourself. In case yo missed it, obama is now the six trillion dollar president.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #21.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:39 PM EST

                                  Pick what you deny, LOL

                                  The International Republican Institute is an NGO created by Republicans and Not a Government agency

                                  It's intent and actions are designed to subvert Governments

                                  They got caught, LOL

                                    #21.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST

                                    Yes, I agree, Obama is now a $6 trillion President ($4 trillion the first month in office when he add'd war cost and Part D to the budget) $1.5 trillion ($500 billion X 3 years = Bush taxcuts),,,,,,,,,,So,,,,,$500 billion belongs to,,,,,,,,Obama (actual taxcut cost are $860 billion for 2 years)

                                      #21.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST

                                      By the way, Add these up

                                      $210 Billion in budget cuts over the summer of 2012
                                      $120 Billion in budget cuts through the failed budget committee
                                      $150 Billion saved by ending the Iraq war
                                      ______

                                      $480 Billion

                                      Now add

                                      $500 billion (Bush taxcuts)
                                      $200 billion pulling out of Afghanistan

                                      Thats

                                      $1.2 trillion in budget cuts

                                      We'll will start 2013 with,,,,,,,A balanced budget ;)

                                        #21.5 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST

                                        The U.S should have never interfered in the first place. They should have never interfered in Egypt and Libya. Every time the west sticks it's nose in other countries they wind up worst off. Murbarak and Gaddafi were good for their countries. These people out in the streets chanting for democracy are fooling us. They want to live in anarchy.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #21.6 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST

                                        Exactly my point Lisa,,,,,,,,This is a Republican controlled NON-Government Organization (NGO)

                                        NOT a US Government Agency

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #21.7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:15 PM EST

                                        And you are an obama controlled puppet of liberalism

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #21.8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:45 PM EST
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                                        areas of instablity...

                                        one moment you are golden, the next moment you are gone....creepy stuff...

                                        hope these folks get out of Egypt in one piece...& as quickly as possible!

                                          Reply#22 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST

                                          This might turn out to be beneficial to us. Maybe we could convince the Egyptians to swap the nineteen for a whole park full of OWS protesters.

                                          It's worth a try, but I doubt the Egyptians could find any value in the OWS !

                                          • 2 votes
                                          Reply#23 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:32 PM EST

                                          How's that Arab Spring working out for you Barrack Hussien Obama.....

                                          • 3 votes
                                          Reply#24 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:47 PM EST

                                          dixie girl, I think BO's Arab spring is working out exactly as he planned it.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #24.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST

                                          The "Arab Spring" is a news label. Demonstrations and rebellions have risen among the citizens of several nations. Your opinion the President Obama is president of the entire Earth is exaggerated. Peace and democracy are American ideals. If you prefer war and totaltarianism, that is your problem.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #24.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:58 PM EST

                                          Figure it out for yourself; Obama and his minions support the Muslim Brotherhood's takeover of Egypt and other Middle East countries. What do you guess is Obama's plan for the United Muslim States of America? (OUMSA--kinda odd, huh?)

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #24.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:30 PM EST

                                          I have got one thing to say to obama, and all of his muslim brothers.... first and only..... get this...... muslims are not our friends. We should not give a dime to any muslim country because they hate us and want us dead. Please people, read the koran and then tell me that the "good" muslims are ok.... they are not, and we need to get every last one of them before they get us, and kick the scum out of this country before they band together and subvert us from within, but i think its too late for that already.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #24.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:48 PM EST

                                          DAMN RIGHT!

                                            #24.5 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:58 PM EST
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                                            That's what America gets for interfering in the affairs of other countries. Street protests against leaders does not mean the U.S should go in and oust leaders. Egypt and Libya is worst off now than ever. America mind your business.

                                              Reply#25 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:04 PM EST

                                              Non-Government Organization (NGO) The International Republican Institute is NOT a US Agency

                                                #25.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM EST

                                                The United States is biased toward citizens' right to "alter or abolish" tyrannical rule. That can be messy, as it was in the 13 colonies and is liberal. Conservative colonists fled back to England and the established order of things. The United States is a successful nation where freedom and democracy provides an example that tantalizes people around the world to demand freedom.

                                                Intervention in cases of genocide is a right to life issue. The U.S. has changed and improved since the program of Native American extermination ended just before the twentieth century. We have three times rescued Europe from international tyranny by entering the two world wars and joining in the Cold War to limit Soviet Communism.

                                                We are now stressing diplomacy, international pressure, and only emergency use of military solutions to support change. Isolationists have more in common with Russia and China, neither of which respect personal freedoms. Human freedom and human life preservation are not only political issues, they are issues of morality, integrity, Christianity, and the Constitution. The effective route to tyranny and killing is for moral people to say and do nothing.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #25.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:31 PM EST
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                                                But but but... obama told us this was all good, this is the Arab Spring, and these are peaceful muslims after all. and his favorite sound in the world is the muslim call to prayer.... could it be possible that obama may be wrong and these are just a bunch of lousy stinken muslims like i have said on here all along that really want us all dead? It does not take a rocket scientist to see where this is all headed, and i can tell you this much, not a single thing of it is any good if it involves muslims. First of all they want Israel to be completely wiped off the map, and next they want death to all infidels, and that folks, is us.... so please dont be fooled by the muslim Barack Hussein Obama, because not only is he our enemy, he is part of all this.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                Reply#26 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:19 PM EST

                                                Better hurry up with these conspiracy theories, Obama has stated he wants all combat troops out of the middle east this year and told Israel to STOP pissin' off their neighbors

                                                  #26.1 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:25 PM EST

                                                  Actually if any American president were responsible for this it would be George W. He is after all the one who set Iraq free from a dictator. Obama had nothing to do with what happened in Egypt. Or in any other part of the middle east for that matter. He helped the opposition in Libya and most Republicans chastised him saying he wasn't doing enough. Obama is a muslim....ahhh that must be why he was a member of a christian church in Chicago for 20+ years before becoming president. Please don't vote. It's morons like you that are mucking up the country.

                                                    #26.2 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:29 PM EST

                                                    LOL,Egypt and The Arab Spring" is totally motivated by Obama/Clinton,Bush and the Republicans had nothing to do with this boondoggle.Nice try,covering Obama's keester but it won't fly.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #26.3 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:33 PM EST

                                                    Need to lighten the chin strap on your tin hat. Maybe just a tad too tight.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #26.4 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:36 PM EST

                                                    Amazing you think Bush,3 years later,is to blame for another Obama Foreign Policy Blunder.I guess that's how Obama got elected,he can convince people like you of anything,apparently

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #26.5 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:40 PM EST

                                                    Saddam was a threat to peace in the area. That is a fact. Most republicans were pissed that we sent troops and military aid to Libya. Obama had a lot to do with what is happening in Egypt. He planted the seed of revolution. I guess you forgot he went to Egypt and gave a speech.

                                                    These radicals that are overthrowing govts. in the middle east is all happening on Obama's watch. These radicals think we will come to their aid. They would not try it when Bush was in office, they knew they would be on their own.

                                                      #26.6 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST

                                                      You two morons think I'm defending Obama? Wow he actually made a speech in Egypt that set ALL of this in motion? You people are fools.

                                                        #26.7 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:48 PM EST

                                                        Yes, i forgot that obama attended Rev Wrights church of satan that preached anti white, and "not God bless America, but God damn America" .. Such a loving church that not only was racist, but preached against this great country. I for one believe that Obama, with his background belongs in jail right alongside his miseralble racist wife too. I just only wish i had to opportunity to take them both over my knee and whip the tar out of them for being such arrogant racist biggots. They are both shamefull in the least.

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        #26.8 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:54 PM EST

                                                        Dudes, the people in trouble are "Republicans" from the International Republican Institute

                                                          #26.9 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST

                                                          @BO "stop pissin off the neighbors?" that dumb @!$%# in the Oval has no clue or cares..Israel doesnt need the muslim sphincter licker in its affairs, and it doesnt need the US $$$... i guess protecting its citizens against their enemies, and building up their country pisses off their neighbors? GOOD THEY CAN ALL ROT IN HELL! and personally, those syrians are getting their just desserts.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #26.10 - Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:04 PM EST
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