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Subscribe to RSSOngoing violence and a worsening security situation has been further complicated by Russia and China's decision to block a U.N Security Council resolution on Syria. NBC's Ayman Mohyeldin reports.
Updated at 1:45 p.m. ET: The best solution to ending the bloodshed in Syria is political and while the United States takes no option off the table, it is focused on pursuing diplomatic and economic measures to achieve that goal, the White House said on Monday after it was announced the U.S. Embassy in Syria was closing.
"We believe the right solution in Syria is a political solution," White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at a regular news briefing.
Updated at 11:50 a.m. ET: Britain has recalled its ambassador to Syria to discuss the ongoing violence in that country, Foreign Secretary William Hague told lawmakers on Monday.
The move followed the United States' announcement that it was withdrawing all embassy personnel and their family members from Syria, and comes amid escalating international pressure on the Bashar Assad regime, which is in the midst of a worsening crackdown on protesters.
Hague also said:
"The Syrian regime has deployed snipers, tanks, artillery and mortars against civilian protestors and population centers, particularly in the cities of Homs, Idlib, Hama and Deraa.
Thousands of Syrians have endured imprisonment, torture and sexual violence - including instances of the alleged rape of children - and the humanitarian position is deteriorating.
This is an utterly unacceptable situation which demands a united international response."
Updated at 9:35 a.m. ET: "All official U.S. embassy personnel and their family members have departed" Syria, the U.S. State Department says in a statement released on Monday.
U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice talks about the shared frustrations of the Syrians and U.S. about Russia's veto of a U.N. resolution to pressure the Assad regime.
The U.S. has told the Syrian government that it "suspended all embassy operations" and had withdrawn Ambassador Robert Ford because of the ongoing violence and worsening security situation.
Hillary Clinton lambastes 'travesty' of UN veto on Syria
The State Department warned late last month that it would close the embassy unless security concerns were addressed.
"We, along with several other diplomatic missions, conveyed our security concerns to the Syrian government but the regime failed to respond adequately,'' State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said in a statement.
"We continue to be gravely concerned by the escalation of violence in Syria caused by the regime's blatant defiance of its commitments to the action plan it agreed to with the Arab League," the statement added. "The deteriorating security situation that led to the suspension of our diplomatic operations makes clear once more the dangerous path Assad has chosen and the regime's inability to fully control Syria."
Reuters
Anti-government protesters burn tires during a demonstration against Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime in the town of Daraa, near Damascus, on Monday.
Updated at 9:15 a.m. ET: The Associated Press is reporting that the United States is closing its embassy in Damascus and pulling American diplomats out of Syria as Bashar Assad's government escalates its 10-month crackdown on protesters.
Activists have said they fear that the Saturday decision by Russia and China to block a U.N Security Council resolution on Syria will embolden Assad's regime. Some worry that Syria's turmoil will move into even a more dangerous new phase that could degenerate into outright civil war.
Updated at 5:11 a.m. ET: Syrian troops shelled neighborhoods in the restive city of Homs on Monday, a day after President Bashar Assad's government vowed to continue its deadly crackdown on the country's uprising, activists said.
The bombardment comes two days after another attack on the central Syrian city that activists say killed 200 people, the highest death toll reported for a single day in the 11-month uprising.
The Local Coordination Committees activist group said Monday's bombardment hit a makeshift hospital in the tense neighborhood of Baba Amr, causing casualties.
The Syrian National Council opposition group said a total of 50 people were killed Monday in the sustained assault on several districts of the city.
AP
Syrian rebels gather in an alley as they try to protect a nearby demonstration in Idlib on Sunday. The graffiti on the wall above them reads: "behave, stranger."
"The regime is acting as if it were immune to international intervention and has a free hand to use violence against the people," the group's Catherine al-Talli told Reuters
Activists say they fear that the Saturday decision by Russia and China to block a U.N Security Council resolution on Syria will embolden Assad's regime. Some fear that Syria's turmoil will move into even a more dangerous new phase that could degenerate into outright civil war.
Philippe Bolopion, U.N. director at Human Rights Watch, described the veto as "a betrayal of the Syrian people."
Tim Marshall, foreign affairs editor of Britain's Sky News, said that it was now "almost impossible to see" how the situation could be solved diplomatically.
"This will be settled by violence," he said.
On Sunday, the commander of rebel soldiers said force was now the only way to oust Assad, while the regime vowed to press its military crackdown to bring back stability to the country.
"We did not sleep all night," Majd Amer, an activist in Homs, said by telephone. Explosions could be heard in the background. "The regime is committing organized crimes."
Amer said shelling of his neighborhood of Khaldiyeh started at 3 a.m., and most residents living on high floors either fled to shelters or to lower floors. He said electricity was also cut.
Homs has been an epicenter of Syria's uprising.
'Controlled demolition' for Assad?
Meanwhile, Reuters reported that Russia may be seeking a "controlled demolition" of Assad's rule to save its sole major foothold in the Arab world against Western rivals when its foreign minister and spy chief hold rare talks in Damascus this week.
Moscow announced the high-stakes mission hours on Saturday hours before Russia and China, in a move that outraged much of the world and Syria's opposition, vetoed the U.N. Security Council resolution.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said he would travel to Syria on Tuesday along with Foreign Intelligence Service Director Mikhail Fradkov for talks with Assad.
Lavrov revealed nothing about their purpose, but a Foreign Ministry statement on Sunday indicated he and Fradkov would at least press Assad, who has ruled out resigning and rejected his opponents as "terrorists," to make compromises.
President Dmitry Medvedev ordered the mission, it said, because Russia "firmly intends to seek the swiftest stabilization of the situation in Syria on the basis of the swiftest implementation of democratic reforms whose time has come."
President Barack Obama calls for Syrian President Bashar Assad to step down following a crackdown in Syria that lead to the deaths of over 200 people. NBC's Mike Viqueira reports.
After a veto that angered the West and deepened the resolve of Assad's foes, Russia faces a daunting task: how to leverage longstanding ties with an embattled Syrian leader into traction firm enough to keep Russia from losing its most solid arena of influence in the Middle East.
Billions of dollars in arms contracts
Moscow could be tempted to play for time by seeking to shore up Assad, whose government has billions of dollars worth of contracts for Russian arms and hosts a naval maintenance and supply facility on its Mediterranean coast that is Russia's only military base outside the former Soviet Union.
But many analysts say Moscow's veto was driven less by love for Assad or hope of a return to Syria's pre-conflict status quo than by Prime Minister Putin's desire to show -- as he seeks a six-year term in a March presidential vote -- that he will defy Western efforts to impose political change on sovereign states in regions of big power competition.
"Russia's overwhelming objective is to salvage something from the wreckage of the Assad regime and contain Western influence in its most important Arab ally," said Shashank Joshi, an associate fellow at Britain's Royal United Services Institute, a military think-tank.
With Assad facing growing pressure from the West, Arab states and his opponents at home, Moscow's best hope of maintaining influence may be "a controlled demolition, of sorts - a managed transition to a new regime, shorn of Bashar but built around the loyalists of the Assad dynasty," Joshi said.
There are problems with that approach, however.
'Influence'
By twice vetoing U.N. resolutions that would have condemned Assad, and resisting pleas from visiting Syrian opposition groups to join calls for his resignation, Moscow may have ruined any remaining chance it had of being accepted by the opposition. A superficial shakeup would do little to change that.
But Ghassan Ibrahim, a Syrian dissident who heads the London-based Global Arab Network, a web-based news and information service, said that if Russia could secure the exit of Assad and of senior military and security officers associated with torture, Syrians would judge Russia's role as acceptable.
"The Russians think Assad's days are over and they are thinking about how to safeguard their position in the region," said Ibrahim. "Syria is their only door into the region and it gives them influence. They need to protect it. But do they have enough power to manipulate Assad (to step down)?"
The Associated Press, Reuters and msnbc.com staff contributed to this report.
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....it sounds like it's already an all out civil war. Moscow is moving chess pieces while people are dying, remember the power of the pawn.
This is a civil war people die and atrocities abound just as in Libya. How many died in the American civil war 500,000? Now determining who are the ''bad guys''? Well msnbc and the Obama Administration have advised us and we must believe.
At least 618,000 Americans died in the Civil War, and some experts say the toll
reached 700,000. The number that is most often quoted is 620,000
It is like Kadafy was killed by the Syria not by the French Foreigh Legion agents.... What did the Syrian Governement do to the Wild West to make them UNDERMINE & DESTROY the Syrian Government????
Other than Israel who wishes all its neighbours destroed, no one has any issues with Syria!!!!
Time for Peace and time for israel to stop its B.S. calling all the countries in the World as Terrorist!!!!!!!
I don't like Assad, he's just another dictator. We have wsomeone similiar, but not violent, in the U.S. today. However, not all Syrians dislike Assad. The leader was attacked by a group of Rebels, and the leader is going after the Rebels. There will be causalities among those that support the Rebels. If the citizens of Homs want to survive they have to stop supporting the Rebels and move the Rebels out of their town. The Rebels started the Civil War and Assa is going to defeat them by inflicting the max. causalities for the Rebels and their supporters. This is an internal matter that needs to be resolved between the Rebels and Assad and other countries need to stay out of Syria..
Hey Eagle,
Its seems you think Israel is the agressor. As if they have something to do with Syria. Israel has been trying for decades to normalize relationships with other ME coutnries. If Israel wanted their neighbors destroyed they could do it.
You spinning this as if Israel is in the middle is about the dumbest effing thing I read from you in sometime.
Quite and accomplishment as most here know your a moron. try spending sometime in Israel and educate your uniformed postion better yet after that spend some time in other ME countries then come up with a thought based on real observation, not what you hear on TV.
If Russia & China like Assad he is obviously a bum who must go!
Israel is the one stabilizing force in the Middle East. Take Israel out of the picture and the Middle East would be a far greater problem for the West.
Jor F
Birds of a feather?
I found interesting that with all the accusations against Syria: murdering its own people, helping Hezbollah, in bed with Iran, violating human rights, etc, we have an embassy there, but we can't even have relations with Cuba, which seems to be doing so much better than that, just curious.
What took so long? This should have occurred the first time that Syria started to slaughter its own people.
I'm with bill. I thought we'd already shut our embassy down.
One of the reasons we have embassies is to learn what is happening in other countries. (I know, I know, on Newsvine it is SO much more popular just to make things up, but in the real world that is a bad idea.
That's why we leave the embassy open until it becomes so vulnurable that keeping it open puts too much at risk.
The OTHER reason to close the embassy is to signal that we no longer consider the Butcher of Homs a legitimate ruler.
The clock is ticking....
The "protestors" are pawns, armed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia, coddled in Turkey and France, and given fawning, sympathetic coverage by the mainstream Western media.
Qatar and Saudi Arabia are themselves pawns of Washington and London.
Washington and London, in turn, are pawns of Tel Aviv.
Oh yes, there are many pawns in this game ... and Zionist fingers are manipulating most of them.
Pray tell, Joe, who do we have who's "similar, but not violent?"
Ooh. There's one for Israel's army of little desktop warriors to vote into the stratosphere. I can almost see the "Megaphone" application popping up on screens all over the world.
You mean "wipe it off the map"?
What gets me is that Russia and China veto a resolution supported by NATO. Just like the resolution that has been put in place regarding the purchase of Iranian oil and suspension of accounts belonging to Iran. It seems the entire world was behind this, except Russia and China. So, what is their response, we'll just buy all the oil that they make available ourselves and let everyone else pay exorbitant prices, while we get cheaper oil from Iran, regardless of what they are doing. Well, it seems to me that if we continue to do business with China and Russia, we are buying Iranian oil through a third party, as it is used to produce the products that we purchase from these nations. If you ask me, the US needs to suspend trade with these nations, so that we don't support the sale of Iranian oil through in any manner not even through a third party, which is really what is happening. Hmmm, I'm willing to bet that if the US suspended trade with China they'd have almost a trillion reasons to reconsider their position on these matters. All in the form of dollar signs for the exports they ship to the US each year. All Russia is after now is to try and save some clout they may have in this region, and show that they can be a world leader. Yet, everyday they delay taking action, will cost the lives of many innocent people. All this, so they can continue to support the war machine and sell their arms and ammunition to countries such as these. My what a greedy and screwed up world we live in!!
We should have closed the embassy weeks ago. The Arab League is going to force something on Syria, let them do it. No controversy if they do it.
Romilio, I agree, put the Cuba crap behind us and talk to them.
JoeB,,,, you're out of your mind!
JK, Really? Their constant harassment of the Palestinians, occupying territory that is as much the Palestinians as it is theirs? They may be a U.S. "ally" but that doesn't mean they won't blow that whole region to smithereens if pushed by Iran. A first strike on their part could not be considered a defensive move. It would tear the Middle East apart and don't think they won't do it. I don't call that stable.
there is only one destiny for this guy and his Regime....
Bashar Assad crock down on rebels!!!!!!!!!!!!! The media means : Crock down on innocent Protesters who has no right to protest and with Bashar Assad Army behind!!! why not kill them all to please One men Bashar Assad.
if syrian had a choice! they would leave syria for Good, after all leaves! Assad will find him self alone ruling himself and his evil Army only..
Russia trying to show its a world leader by pursuing a throwback, knuckleheaded, and brutal side of itself? The Mongols were world leaders at one point and nobody thinks anyone should rule like them anymore. Including Russia.
Russia and China show that they are the worst of the worst superpower. People come down on the US and it is foolishness at its best, because for all its faults, nobody but an ignoramus thinks the US is anything like who Russia and China are showing themselves to be.
Russia had its chance at Democracy and with Putin, decided that it was a mistake...Things were better when peasants were being shot if they didn't work hard enough. China, of course, never cared about human rights because they are always near the top of the list for human rights violations.
What will happen is the Syrians will eventually kill Assad after tons of bloodshed. And in the process, they'll do their best to catch the Russians and Chinese embassy personnel before they can leave the country, to make an example of them.
They stopped being innocent protestors the moment they decided to use violence to promote their cause. Now they are just 2 sides in a petty armed conflict for control of mens lives.
Right, because having a war for your own government is petty....exactly what point are you trying to make and how does it relate?
We are neck deep into troubles with Pakistan, Afghanistan and a bankrupt economy.
The US under the direction of Saudi Arabia and other barbaric and beastly ME Sunni rulers, is unnecessarily opening too fronts for battles in Syria, Iran and some more.
Still Iraq war and the dramas before have not taught any lessons to many!
Now the slide will be only downwards and faster!
For many, it will be from unemployment to streets!
They will kick out the present govt. eventually. Then who will be in power? Someone less friendly to the USA? With Obama in charge of this country you can guarantee it will be screwed up deal with them some how. Let's see... he helped remove the Libyan govt......now Syria? I'm still wondering where all the liberal war protesters are that plague Bush. Liberal hypocrisy at its best.
Bush claims to have looked Putin in the eyes and saw a good soul, I suspect all he really saw was the devil...
@Ray in Jax hahaha very funny.
As I said before , you better not upset Putin. he may just blow the Holy Land to Kingdom Come if you say he is as bad as you think.He has a lot to gain , and we, a lot to lose. How far can you drive on a tankful of gas in a year ? The prices on oil would skyrocket and Russia is an oil producing country.
G. W.Bush is an idiot, his assessments cannot be trusted.
And we can trust Obama's assessment of anything?
Bill - yes
Yes! He has proven to have very good insights and assessments, particularly regarding other countries. That is one of the strongest reasons to vote for him.
I'll ask you a very simple question Bill, and it's not meant to be snide. What has Obama done to prove his assessments are bad? Please, no B.S. answers like "He said the Bears would win the Superbowl." What POLITICAL decisions, both at home, and especially concerning foreign policy, do you disagree with?
For any clear mind, Obama is just a demagogue who climbed to power deserving it as much he deserved to Nobel Prise for Peace! This is actually ... commonsense.
One example: the economy grew for the past few months without his ridiculous plan of borrowing more and increase taxes on the people who manage to get off their butt and do something with their live!
Dub saw HIMSELF while looking into Putin's mug. Wat a jackoff.
Joe - Before Putin wipes Israel off the map they will launch their 200 nukes against his precious Russia and send them back to the stone age. I don't think they'll go peacefully to the slaughter like they did in WW II.
@ a veteran- damn right- they'll nuke anyone who f's w/ the jews/israelis now after the holocaust. i support them.
Trust? -- After the US and the EU pulled off the Libya con job how can they expect to be trusted? I assure you that I wouldn't so, so why should the Russians or the Chinese believe them. Hillary, Obama and the EU made a crucial mistake, which will come back, and is coming back to haunt them, when they F**ked around (and I"m mean really f**ked around) w/ the UN Resolution regarding Libya. The word, the "handshake" of the US and the EU, is now a joke. It will take years to restore credibility. Are there tensions in the world today, doesn't anyone trust each other -- wonder why?
Wait till the Russian advisors show up and then send in the cruise missiles. I think Putin will get the message.
davesha I think you forget Russia also has many cruise (and nuclear) missiles and Putin doesn't seem to be a wimp.
Not a good idea.
The Syrians are going to have to work this out for themselves. The Russians need to stay out of it.
We, including Hillary Clinton, need to stay out of it too.
Casual - I agree with you 1,000%. Let Syria handle their problems, if they have a civil war, so be it. If Putin and Russia take out Israel it will be at great cost to themselves, I don't know if they are willing to sacrifice that much just to take out the Jews.
little putin, but of course.
Well, the Russian People need to pressure Putin to back off his support for Assad. As long as Russia can keep its base out there what's the problem?
Back in the street comrades! People are dying because of Putin. You could be next.
This shelling brought to you courtesy of the Dual Evil-Empire, China-Russia....
Tune in..... much, much more to follow with the boost of confidence these folks have given to the dictator they hope to save (got outmaneuvered on Kaddafi...wont let that ever happen again).
Now you know what the Devil looks like.....
Nevermind
Russia ' hosts a naval maintenance, and supply facility on the Mediterranean coast that is Russia's ONLY military base outside the former Soviet Union'. Sounds completely mundane, doesn't it? Actually, the Russians spent billions to modernize that naval base in Tartous, so they could bring in nuclear subs, aircraft carriers (Peter the Great), many large battleships, and several other light missile ships. This is the only major piece that the Russians have left on the chess board outside the former Soviet Union. ..... The Russians veto in the UN was to allow them time to talk with Assad, which they had already announced before the decision to veto. .... Today, the bombing resumes in Syria killing innocent people, some in a makeshift hospital. I hope the Russians know what to say to Assad. That would make the Russian veto a mute point, if they convince him to step down, and stop his insane attacks on the Syrian people. That would protect the Russians investment in their naval base, along with their arms trade agreements with Syria ... MAYBE .... I really don't care if Russia has a naval base anywhere on this Blue Earth. Yes, that would include Hawaii, San Diego, New York ..... Why? The Russians have already lost the chess game. THEY LOST, and they know it. Russia has a a knight or rook left in Syria, and Syria is in turmoil. So now the Russians are grabbing for toilet paper .... Your move Russia.
Russia still has her Queen, China.
Aircraft Carriers? You mean the rust bucket they tricked China into buying?
If Russia is making millions in arms and ammunition sales to Syria why are they pushing for peace?
That would never happen in America.
Because the 'arms and ammunition' from Russia are being used at random to kill civilians, and those that live will rise up from the ashes to rid themselves of Assad, and maybe the Russians, too. Jeez, dey worse den us ...
Sounds like, Demetrious has an agenda , It Commander.
"If Russia is making millions in arms and ammunition sales to Syria why are they pushing for peace?
That would never happen in America."
Sure it would. As for why, the short-term bonus of the weapons sales means little in comparison to long-term benefits from the stability of a good ally in the region. So Russia can feel free to ship out their guns while at the same time helping end the conflict (which for Russia can also mean Assad killing off a quarter of his people; it's all the same to him).
I contend that the United States would absolutely do the same thing if one of our arms customers were having such a conflict.
SF we do have a history of selling arms to both sides of conflicts. i don't see why we would abandon that practice now. It may be wrong and immoral but we have and probably (I don't know for sure) will again.
Have the other countries that broke loose during their arab spring no ability to help their Syrian brothers? It would seem that if this isn't fixed soon it will spill out over borders anyway.
It's all tribal like in "we did ours. now it's your turn. don't call me." If not, the Arab States would have gotten together long ago and invoked the religion of peace to convince Assad to desist and decease.
the arabs dont like each other...evident thru all the bombings everywhere there is a muslim populace..
It's OK....NOW! to kill as many as they like, the more the merrier. China and Russia authorized it by VETOing the idea for the head man to step down. Why have a UN???
I do not see China & Russia to have the CATASTROPHIC ECONOMICAL CRISES the US & Europe has... Maybe it is time for the United States and the West to concentrate on its own problems and let other countries fix their own issues!!!!!!
USA & the Wild West has no business in Syria!!!!!
The Soviet Union went bankrupt and broke up already, the Russians aren't much better off today. As far as China, in the 70's it was Japan who was going to take over. Give it time.
We do not care about the Syrian Hospital!!! We care about the American Factories and the Aemrican Houses that were "SHELED & WIPED OFF THE MAP" by the Capitalist Economical Crisis!!!!
Let's each fix its own problems!!!!!
Actually, I care more about the unfolding Syrian crisis than the American economic crisis which has already been dealt with to the best of our government's abilities (or continues to not be dealt with, depending on your POV).
Just saying.
I agree, America first! Why are those such dirty words today? Who gives a rats @$$ about the rich spoiled brats in the middle east. Let them make peace, BY THEMSELVES, without my tax dollars, or let them blow each other to smithereens. It's really that simple.
Make shift hospital!! WTF!!!! This could be anywhere.
These people have been killing each other for eons, this is more of a tribal/clan hatred of each other.
Hillary with her big mouth wants nothing more than to destabilize another country. She destabilize Egypt, just last week 2 American women were kidnapped by Bedouins I can't remember the last time something like this happen I was in Egypt last year, the government had a firm control over the resort areas, now I don't think I would travel to Egypt, not safe for Americans.
Hillary and NATO with the urging of the Obama administration, destabilize Libya, and murdered Qadhafi. This is a country that had no international debt, had healthcare, fuel was very inexpensive. So what if they had a dictator, he had a handle on his country. Look what's happening in this country now, the Brotherhood is in control along with the European oil companies. Soon you will see more violence, nobody is given up their weapons and you see a big gap between the have and have-nots.
Iraq, Hussein was yes a terrible person but he had control of his country, there is approximately150 tribes/clans in Iraq that he kept more or less in control. We went in and destabilize this country, look what's going on now bombing, Shiites and Sunni are again killing each other, each has death squads. I looked and I still can't find anything about the finding of weapons of mass destruction. If you research you will find that Hussein was ready to agree to Western demands , but we invaded anyway.
Bahrain, the 2011 uprising was crushed not only by Bahrain military but also by invading Saudi troops. Several members of the opposition received life sentences. Why didn't we say something, where was Hillary, oh the Saudi's are our friends, and yes we have a naval base in this country just like the Russian have a naval base in Syria. We also turn a blind eye to the crackdown in Bahrain, we are protecting our interests, as the Russians are protecting there's.
Yemen, look at crackdown there, oh wait we have a naval base there. So all is good. I
Tim Marshall stated "This will be settled by violence" well OK, this is not our fight.
We could go on and on about how we try to install a democratic government in countries that have no understanding of this concept. The only thing we achieved was a destabilize of these countries.
We should stay the F@#K out of the middle east. Let them settle their own tribe/clan problems
Robert Aldrete,
Funny, I have been in Egypt for over six years now, and I cannot remember a time when the security forces had firm control over the Western deserts - where the Bedouins kidnapped these women. And since the Revolution last year, they have lost control of most of Egypt as well.
It was the Lybian people, with the aid of UN Air Power, that overthrew the madman Qhadafi. And the Egyptian people never did well under Mubarak, unless they happened to be members of his inner circle.
Try telling the Kurds that were gassed by Saddam how wonderfully he treated his people.
Hillary? That's funny. Last I heard she took her orders from someone higher up the US political food chain.
hillary is just another dumb vag with no clue, who should be tossed out...besides, no muslim gives a rats a@@ about what some lefty, hippie duche infidel has to say..especially a chick to boot!
Makeshift hospital or hospital? The problem with MSN is that they report stories in a way as to never quite give you all of the facts. Taken at face value from the headline you would think a Hospital was targeted by intent not just by where the artillery rounds happen to fall. How given MSNs reporting practices can you consider them a reliable source for any news whatsoever? I have no doubt this incident happened but the outside world is not going to change anything. Any changes will need to come from withen this country.
Personally , I just about throw up reading your daily propaganda on Syria.All one sided. You are not with the people of Occupy Wall Street, but you are with some gangs in Syria. Then the propaganda : Muslims kill butterflies, Assad eats pork, Assad will not kiss our rear, he kills the environment -more tabloits to follow , he spilled milk, he fell over a baby cat,. The problem is that our pimp in the Middle East does not like him, would not give them land ,more water, supported the oppressed Palestinians who were robbed of their farms, orchards, who had to run for their lives from Israeli terrorists because they would not be Jewish-Israel - FOR JEWS ONLY. Why don.t you clarify it so that people are less confused.
So you're saying... what? You want more positive coverage of the Assad regime?
Or are you just looking for any excuse to rant about Jews?
I vote for the latter.
@ joe- another walking moronic cluster f--k...
I wonder if the tanks are from the Russian T-90 model. Never thought the Russians would freeload tanks on the Syrians. Not sure, who is operating those tanks. They are hard to beat. I guess we can all call Syria a colony of Russia.
They are going to shoot, if you upset them , right into Tel Aviv, where you are.
Not happening, Joe. Feel lucky punk? Well, do ya?
Syria could buy some of Iraq's old tanks, the only thing wrong with them is reverse was stripped.
israel did a great job back in 73 handling the syrian tanks..although the beginning looked bad, they kicked some a-s..i got a lot of pleasure walking over the destroyed syrian bunkers and tanks in the Golan...the syrians are also pretty stupid, ie "Zvika's Brigafe" a lone tank crew who made it sound on the radio like a whole battalion of tanks was coming towards the syrians in the Golan..the dummies ran, and abandoned their posts...
at 1pm today, I will be firing up the Enola Gay,, so watch out,, over there, everybodys tired of your non sense & stupidity over there in the middle east !! all you do is fight and kill each other,,, time to turn your into a baron desert !!
wtf are you talking about? Monday morning and Jet7 is already drunk. Do not drink and blog. Your stupidity is dangerous and extremely contagious.
Are there Barons in the desert? I thought the desert would be too barren for Barons.
Hey stupid- try barren.
I was thinking for a moment that Kid Shelleen had been reborn and was now calling himself jet7. Just stick him on his horse backward, strap that nuke to his ass, and send him off to fix the problem over there. Be sure to tie him in the saddle good and tight.
Me tired of yo schitt. Meesh gonna enola gay yoosh barrons to hell. LMAO
i normally dont a give a s--t about typos, but having met Gen Paul Tibbets and rest of the Enola Gay crew back in 91, you gotta spell before you can fly...
The blood of the Syrian people are on the hand's of Russia and China.
...as the blood of the Palestinian people is in ours. Who provides Israel with all those weapons? That is the way it has always been, the pawns do the job for their masters.
NO. There is a "Duke of the Desert" though. He works part time at 7-11...
Romilio - And who provides the Palestinians with all of their rockets that they launch into Israel? Hmmmm? And who provides the Palestinians with their weapons? I am amazed at the level of nonsense that people can't wait to blurt out as some kind of informed opinion.
@ what the fudge- thanks! i thought sll of humanity turned into s--t heads..thanks !
Syria can go to hell where were they when 911 happen. They cheared so they can go @!$%# there self, and the rest of the middle east to.
3 cheers for Mtex. hip hip hooray. hip hip hooray. hip hip hooray.
I realize that the United States is upset about Russia and China's veto. It was another opportunity to put in another puppet regime dictator that the Americans favor, tough luck. Now onto the real matter at hand. Why is the US upset about the actions of Russia and China? In the United States every year the government sits by and watches as upwards of 37000 people die because of homelessness. Does the government do anything to thwart this problem. Obviously the answer is no, seeing as these people are looked upon as a negative factor. If China and Russia and a couple of other big players in the U.N. decided that Obama should step down becuase of the 37000 deaths per year( a hell of alot more than any conflict in the middle east or northern Africa), would he step down? No way because the United States thinks and has taken upon themselves to call themselves the world police. They control the U.N. as we all saw with the Iraqi invasion for WMD. What a joke that was. The only reason was to replace Saddam with a favorable ally. Hopefully Russia and China will stick to their guns and slap the United States in the face each and everytime they try some national boosting action.
So you're saying that Russia and China were right to veto the resolution.
And your reasoning is... it humiliates the United States and works against us.
Ipso facto, any action that works against the United States is inherently good? That's what you're saying?
You'll have to forgive me for ignoring your babbling about homeless deaths and that sort of unverifiable, pointless drivel, but I'm trying to grind your post down to its logical point, here.
SF,
Stop trying to gind his post down to its logical point. You will fail. There is no logic involved.
Letsplayfair- I don't agree with all you said, but I do agree that we need to start healing America First and stop dumping trainloads of cash on the middle east. Let the rich brats over there kill each other. Who cares???
Listen, the Syrians have, for decades, cast their lot with the Russians. They (the government AND the people) have been virulently anti-US. Now that the Russians, the Chinese, and even the Turks have turned their backs on them, it now becomes the problem of the US? Where is the logic in this?
This doesn't look good, closing the embassy there. But it looks like the conflict is extending beyond Syria between China, Russi and the rest of the world. WWIII??
Mtex: if its WWIII, we will win. No other 20 of the most powerful countries can equal the firepower that the US has poised to strike anywhere in the world within minutes. This is why there is a deterrent toward starting a conventional war with the US.
That's most asinine statement one can make
hitobito, israel has almost equal the firepower as the us. did u know that it has the 2nd most nuclear weapons in the world after america