
Chris Helgren / Reuters
An advertisement for The Sun newspaper is seen on a billboard outside News International's Wapping headquarters in London, Jan. 28
LONDON -- British police on Saturday arrested five senior members of staff at News Corporation's flagship newspaper The Sun, the company said, as part of investigations into alleged payments to police by journalists for information.
The payments investigation, dubbed Operation Elveden, is part of a wider probe into illegal news gathering practices that have rocked Britain's political, media and police establishments and last year prompted the closure of News Corp.'s Sunday paper, The News of the World.
"I'm as shocked as anyone by today's arrests but am determined to lead The Sun through these difficult times. I have a brilliant staff and we have a duty to serve our readers and will continue to do that. Our focus is on putting out Monday's newspaper," Sun editor Dominic Mohan said in a statement.
A former News of the World executive, who requested anonymity, said The Sun's current deputy editor Geoff Webster, picture editor John Edwards and chief reporter John Kay were among those arrested Saturday. Sky News and other British media reported that chief foreign correspondent Nick Parker and reporter John Sturgis were also being questioned. News Corp. would not publicly confirm the identities of those detained.
A 39-year-old female employee at Britain's defense ministry, a 36-year-old male member of the armed forces and a 39-year-old serving police officer with Surrey Police were also arrested in an early morning raid, police said.
The Ministry of Defense declined to comment.
The latest arrests at The Sun, Britain's best-selling daily newspaper, come after the arrest of four current and former staff at the newspaper last month, raising questions about the publication's viability.
Saturday's arrests were the result of information from News Corp.'s Management and Standards Committee (MSC), a fact-finding group the firm set up in a bid to rescue its ravaged reputation.
"The MSC provided the information to the Elveden investigation which led to today's arrests ... News Corporation remains committed to ensuring that unacceptable news gathering practices by individuals in the past will not be repeated," New Corp said in a statement.
The MSC's work could lead to further damaging revelations about journalists bribing police that could prompt calls for the Sun's demise.
The once hugely popular News of the World was closed last year by Murdoch after accusations that its reporters hacked the mobile phone messages of celebrities and victims of crime caused a public outcry.
Murdoch to quit newspapers?
"This is huge. It will raise some very serious questions about the viability of The Sun .... You then start to ask questions about the extent to which News Corp and Murdoch in particular, may want to start getting out of newspapers all together," said Steven Barnett, professor of communications at Westminster University, London.
Barnett said Saturday's arrests were particularly damaging because they included current staff and were not related to historical actions by former employees, and also because they come after arrests and office raids at The Sun last month.
Murdoch also owns The Times broadsheet newspaper, which this year admitted that one of its former reporters had hacked a phone, and the Wall Street Journal U.S. financial newspaper.
Meanwhile, U.S. authorities are stepping up investigations, including an FBI criminal inquiry, into possible violations by Murdoch media employees of a U.S. law banning corrupt payments to foreign officials such as police, law enforcement and corporate sources.
Police said 40 people had been arrested in connection with three police investigations into illegal news gathering practices, but that no one had yet been charged.
Allegations of phone hacking at the News of the World prompted Britain's parliament to summon Murdoch and his executive son James to explain themselves last year.
Many inside and outside parliament have long accused Murdoch of wielding too much political influence through his newspapers.
The scandal's most high profile scalps so far include two top police officials, who resigned over the handling of initial investigations into media malpractice; Rebekah Brooks, a former chief executive of Murdoch's London papers; and Andy Coulson, a former Murdoch editor who became Prime Minister David Cameron's media adviser.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this story.
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Fine. Just as long as they don't lock up the Page 3 Girls.
(Then again, a "Page 3 Girls in Gaol" feature might be fun ...)
They will probably end up on "house arrest" for several years in some resort in the Caribbean.
Pathetic.
Shut down FAUX(lying)news for their promotion of hate and misrepresentation of the truth for personal gain through kickbacks from Vulture Corporate Capitalist entities. Murdoch is corrupt as they come and His promotion of propaganda will be the downfall of America. The dumbing down of America is in full bloom.
"The MSC provided the information to the Elveden investigation which led to today's arrests ... News Corporation remains committed to ensuring that unacceptable news gathering practices by individuals in the past will not be repeated,"
At least News Corp is taking steps to clean up their own act.
I suspect that these 'illegal' news gathering methods are a lot more widespread in both England and the USA than people realize. Hiring 'private investigators' is always 'walking a tightrope' between legality and illegality, and in today's 'electronic' world, it's all too easy to dig up dirt on people.
Time to arrest Murdoch, no bail. Let him sit in "gaol" until trial, maybe have Hannity, O'Reilly and a few of the others on Fox "news" as bunk buddies. Funny, no mention at all of the arrests on Fox.com.... gee, I guess they couldn't come up with a "fair and balanced" way to spin this yet.
tryreality, not going to happen. If you think the Republicans protecting the wealthy is bad now, it would be an all out war if anyone were to crack down on FOX for broadcasting misinformation.
God knows the liberal media never distort truth and are never promote hate. f'ing bunch of hipocrites.
How does fox news have anything to do with this??? I agree that this is wrong because it says so in the law books. It shouldn't be wrong, as this is jornalism. True jornalism should walk the line between legal and illegal, that is how you get the facts.
Another thing: prove how Fox News is more biased then MSNBC or CBN and mabey I will listen to you. And dont say they lie, show me the proff that they lie. Bill Oriely is an independent so dont say that they favor republicans because of party affiliations. Bob Beckle on The Five is a libral so it cant possibly be biased in that way. Hannity is biased, but so is Lawrence O’Donnell.
foxnews.com usauly doesn't have international news. Esp. when it is something as insignifacent as this. Another thing, the poeple who report first are usauly wrong. History proves this.
trent, if fox was doing this in England, I guarantee they did it in america which would be illegal! they had so much success, that it going to bring it down, just like the big banks.
opp45646456 "trent, if fox was doing this in England,"
Fox isn't in England.
Studies by media watchdogs show that FOX is far more 'balanced' in their reporting than any other TV news outlet. Perhaps that's why they're at the top of the ratings for cable news - by far.
To trent"""
Read on through the vine....
To..Roy """
No they don't...
Just google...The Most Biased Name in News:
Mr Wilson, they sure did a fantastic brainwashing job on you!
Assuming, of course those "studies" were done by the Fox News Corp. Strange it seems that I couldn't come up with any unbiased media watchdog claiming FOX is truthful in its reporting.
No one answered my question. I asked how fox news is more biased then MSNBC and CBN. No answer as of yet. If you cant answer this qeustion, then dont say that they are.
These are probably the studies he was refering to:
Their leader owns a paper that has its reporters arrested? Which means either Murdoch is stupid or he is in on it. Which?
Conservatives are the moral, Christian ones. hahahahahaa Most evangelical Christians are voting for serial adulterer Newt, explain that.
Interestingly enough, this man who should be arrested and has the most biased reporting and such also gives political contributions favoring democrats to republicans by 51% to 49%. The largest monetary recipients of his largess between 1981 and 2010 are Pres Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry. Specifics at Sunlight Foundation.
Let's see - humm - what do we have here? Oh, a bunch of people talking about something they know nothing about who haven't even engaged their brain to determine what the right thing to do is - ! That's it - !
Come on people. Everything about you is public information - your police record - your credit information - your medical information - where you live - where you work - how much money you make - how much you pay in taxes - LITERALLY, EVERYTHING - ! And, you are part of the people who own this country and you are the bosses of the Government - Right - ?
On the other hand - your employees - "the government" - passes laws that says "everything they do is top secret and if you get access to it you go to prison" - ! Hmmm - is there something wrong with that picture?
I own a business and I hire a cashier to take care of my sales and put the money in my cash register, Ok?
The cashier also gathers information about my customers such as their name, credit card number, address, etc., which they get from my customer, Ok?
Now - the sticky part - my cashier (picture in the view that the cashier is the government) decides not to give me my money or any of the information about MY CUSTOMERS - and I can't stop her from doing that - ! There is something wrong with this picture - isn't there - ???
(Most evangelical Christians are voting for serial adulterer Newt, explain that.)
No, how bout you show when Americans period have voted for Newt or are going to vote for Newt? Are you going to attempt to use a poll shown on Fox News to support you rant when your attempting to claim how biased they are and nonfactual? Your so ignorant in your own rhetoric you didn't even see this? How about your intolerance and bias toward Christians? Are you a Christphobe? Are you afraid of Christians? Do we give you nightmares when you sleep? Do we cause you to need medication to help you overcome your fear of our religious ideology of love, peace and unity? Did you know that more than 80% of African Americans in the US are Christians? Did you know that they along with a vast majority of other "minorities" voted Obama in the White House? Did you note what I just said that the majority of them are Christians? Again, your ignorance shows no bounds. You call republicans warmongers and haters yet it was the republican party that fought for,drafted and passed bills to ensure freedom of slavery. It was the democratic party who formed the KKK, it was democratic people such as Margaret Sanger who pushed the agenda to terminate babies of color other than white Europeans and then went after those who had children born with physical/mental defects and branded them as a waist to society. This same woman along with democratic backing helped form Planed Parenthood that can be found in every low income city in the US who also sleeked out young pregnant teen mothers of color to "let them know about their services". This is the same organization who says the best way to end teen pregnancy is to educate and pass out birth control rather than teach to keep virginity until marriage because it's not a popular subject of the times? Yeah, keep teaching kids to be responsible with sexual intimacy when they can't even wake up on time to be at school...... You liberals feed on peoples ignorance and dependency on your control. Lincoln was a Republican people, not a democrat. Republicans drafted the bill for education vouchers to allow poor people to afford the same education for their children that the rich do but it was once again, democratic liberals such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson who said it would be a cold day in hell before American families living in the hood would be allowed to send their children to attend the same schools as their grandchildren and you want to point the finger at republicans? Try educating yourself before posting rhetoric, you sound retarded on your own arguments. Talk about people who find biased studies and polls to support their own rhetoric, not one thing you stated has any validity to it unless I go to CNN or find some post written by Rachel Maddow, Cris Matthews or Kieth Olbermann as you "factual source". In short, get a life and learn something based on actual research if you even understand what that is because it's obvious as with the other liberals who attempted to post arguments, you all get your facts from the same source........................
Murdoch's people turned the information over to the authorities that led to the arrests. That being the case, What's the justification for calling for Murdoch's arrest? Sounds more like a call for censorship because certain people don't like what they are reporting.
Roy - Most of the folks on here don't realize that you tend to back your claims up with facts. A debate with you would be tough to win.
Imagine a paragraph break Rob, then maybe someone will read what you wrote.
Right wing response: But but but MSNBC is biased.
Still no answer? Wow you poeple are ignorant. I read what rob had to say. I know you didn't because what he said was FAR above your comprehension level. His responce is a post NOT a book, wisen up.
I'm with Wally, Rob you may have had something to say, but there is no way of knowwing that, you're gammmar stinks.
Murdoch is a snake in the grass, he is the ultimate head of THE SUN, and many more news organizations, just like a leopard, he will not change his stripes just because he in operating in the US. Propaganda is how to win weak hearts and minds.
Watch where you step, there is a snake around here somewhere!!!!!
Love peace and unity??? AYFKM??? Rob you come on here ranting and raving about love, peace and unity. You don't choose Jesus you use Jesus and he knows it even if you don't and you probably don't. When you say love you mean what you and those you agree with and who agree with you love. When you say peace you are talking about peace for you not the world. When you say unity we all know what you mean there. You mean partisan loyalty. If you want to make a solid point you should try to abandon your ideology for Christ sake. Murdoch and fox are KNOWN for their bias and their lack of balance worldwide. The only folks who disagree with that are your comrades. Being wrong is a tough pill to swallow but it's not the end of the world. You are wrong Rob, swallow it and move on pal.
This story shouldn’t surprise anyone. Rupert Murdock has spent decades building one of the largest criminal organizations in the world, bribing a few cops in England is just the tip of the iceberg. Murdock hates democracy; he and minions work hard every day spreading lies and misinformation in order to destroy it. I’m amazed at the large number of Americans that still believe the non stop flood of lies coming out of Murdock’s right wing propaganda machine. One day this hateful little man and all his accomplices will pay for their betrayal of the American peoples trust……….It’s just a matter of time.
Would somebody please explain to Rob and Trent that God is not real.
@Rob-851600
I love it when (R) claims to free the slaves!! Technically they did, but history shows us that FDR after during the "second new deal" shifted the parties!! FDR gave this speech....
This is when the current 2 party system that exists NOW was born.......
PLEASE KNOW YOUR HISTORY BEFORE POSTING FUDGED FACTS!!.
The Republican party you see today is NOT the party that freed the slaves!!! I hope that this, fake a$$ Republican talking point will soon be realized for what it is. The justification of current republican guilt for not caring about anyone but business interests and self correcting market stabilization.........
trent fox news hates obama 1 because he is a democrate he keeps putting out republician ideas that they started try epa= nixon ,health care= mitt romney, dream act= john mccain ,cap and trade . try the fact that they want to stop abortion and wefare TRY BIRTH CONTROL FOR FREE if you can not afford a kid here is free birth control so you don't get pregnant in the first place or need an abortion or welfare " an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure " so why is a t.v. channel against it does t.v. get a religion does a company get a religion ???? no they are not people .2 he's black and they just hate black's and think he's an elite so he's smarter then them ?? which is it ? do you want a smart person or a white person here a question do you want a smart kid or just a kid because there are lots of handicapped kids in this world for you to adopted they just might not be white or from the u.s.a.
Trent, if you were following the story there were higher ups that actually gave the OK from Fox to do the hacking. Roger Ailes himself actually knew of the hacking going on...it makes you wonder if Fox themselves do it.
Murdoch is giving state's evidence in exchange for immunity. Go Murdoch! Drop a dime on your staff.
Studies by media watchdogs show that FOX is far more 'balanced' in their reporting than any other TV news outlet. Perhaps that's why they're at the top of the ratings for cable news - by far.
Lol you are dreaming They are on top because all the wingnuts go there to get their felling massaged and btw Fox news is international not just in America they have teams all over the world so they must be in England also
It's one thing to support Obama for President, but to sling mud for him is unconscionable
Birthers
Hes a Muslim
unconsciable things like that maybe would fit the bill and a million other bloggers like yourself slinging mud every since Obama got elected and you are beefing about one story on a newspaper run by a rich right wing Mexican? Puhhhleeze
and anybody that don`t think Fox news and WSJ don`t do the same thing with its rightwinged political Ties better wake up. just think of what he ( Murdoch) controls the ( WSJ) ( Times) and the biggest political rightwing propaganda tool in this country. and lets not forget how he got to be and how fast he became a US citizen and by whom ( good ole Ronnie boy) Mr. trickle down himself. This s**ts been going on here just as long as it has in G.B. and the only difference is we got the rightwing spin machine ( Fox News) to deflect the truth and spin the lie. and anybody that don`t beleave that is an idiot.
Alboyano, you can say the same thing about George Soros. Paying big money for the left wing agenda. He's making lots of money playing games with our economy.
Donkey Hoty; too funny - that's basically the line I gave my mother-in-law when going through divorce...Lady, you don't believe in God, you hide behind God. Classic!
How do people get away with saying the Media is liberal? Since when are billionaire Jews (those who own the largest majority of the media) liberal? I'd be embarrassed if I just ranted based on such horse crap - I may be wrong often, but my desire is to find the truth - not blow a gasket crying about how I'm some victim. Learning my be painful - but choosing to remain a stubborn fool is much worse.
Too true DrainBramage and I totally agree and nice touch on the stubborn fools line.. I often post that it is the conservative media that really runs the show and then ask where I can find this so called liberal media so I can brush up on the liberal talking points. The media is hostile toward the liberal media? That's like Eli Manning saying the Giants suck. Possible, but highly improbable. Thanks for the kind words they are so few and far between on these vines.
The same applies to Obama and Holder with Fast N Foolish which means they're either stupid or in complete denial or both.
News Corps. efforts to "clean up its act" is nothing more than public relations. And trying to distance the Murdoch's, especially Rupert "I Illegally Hack the Private Voicemail of Murdered Children" Murdoch, who set the non-existent ethical standards for all their subordinates, for the sleazy, bottom of the barrel, "news" gathering and reportage.
One is shocked over the arrests? Really? Honestly. And in fact the only brilliance is that of the common criminal mind that allowed and for and tended to corruption of the highest caliber. While "cheating" as it were to get ahead of the game. Brilliance? Come now sir, little more than meager poor sportsman ship as the law was broken smashed and muddled about. ; ]
Cheers
Murdoch's people turned the information over to the authorities that led to the arrests. That being the case, What's the justification for calling for Murdoch's arrest? Sounds more like a call for censorship because certain people don't like what they are reporting.
Dr. Happy Spin is alive and doing well. You only get credit for turning over the information BEFORE you get caught. If they hadn't got caught, they'd still be doing it.
Those participating in political bashing, no matter how intelligent, make themselves sound like ignorant fools. I hope all of you speaking out so boldly against democrats and speaking out so boldly against republicans realize that you sound just as prejudiced and hateful as the KKK against African Americans. The truth is that there are positive and negative behaviors/actions and views to each party, but discernment is something that you politically prejudiced individuals clearly lack.
Ken.
By, "liberal media," do you mean any media that doesn't adhere to Murdoch's "high standards" of ethics?
In that case, Morning Joe is the liberal media.
Funny.
Some people spend their time watching the movie "Roots" in reverse.
Have a nice day.
COmommy
...."Those participating in political bashing, no matter how intelligent, make themselves sound like ignorant fools. I hope all of you speaking out so boldly against democrats and speaking out so boldly against republicans realize that you sound just as prejudiced and hateful as the KKK against African Americans. The truth is that there are positive and negative behaviors/actions and views to each party, but discernment is something that you politically prejudiced individuals clearly lack"....
Ooh, ooh, let ME try that!...
Those participating in political bashing of BOTH parties, no matter how "intelligent," make themselves sound like ignorant fools. I hope those of you saying things like, "there are positive AND negative behaviors/actions to each party," realize that, if you applied the same sentiment to the KKK/African American argument, you sound like jackasses. But, discernment isn't something that political buzzards sitting on the fence possess.
Hey! That felt great!
Now you go out there and have a nice day.
And remember this rule:
One carrion per passenger.
LMAO @ "Bill O'Reilly is an independant."
Lol!
Ok. Dismiss everything that Trent says, henceforth.
Oh. We already do.
Hey, Trent.
SCIENTISTS, history and air breathers are biased against Conservatives too.
Have a nice day.
Have a nice day.
They follow the orders of Murdoch, and he's running free on the streets.
Lock up the SOB Murdoch. These people were following his orders to make that piece of shyt richer than he should ever be.
On to Faux news the single worst propaganda site in the world.
Murdoch is just practicing in England to import the same crap here in the USA. The sooner he removes himself from the newspaper business the better and it wouldn't hurt to shut down Faux News as well.
The Murdochs are scum.
izandroro "The Murdochs are scum."
As is the NY Times.
The NY Times do not intentionally publish false information as Murdoch does.
yes they do. prove that they dont.
Larry-2260635 "The NY Times do not intentionally publish false information"
Thanks for the laugh. I lost all credibility in the NY Times when they 'endorsed' McCain for the Republican candidate in 2008, and then, shortly after he was nominated, they ran that totally false and unsubstantiated 'hatchet job' alleging that McCain had an 'affair' with a female lobbyist.
It's one thing to support Obama for President, but to sling mud for him is unconscionable - they are little more than 'fish wrap' as far as I'm concerned.
The NY times was printing stories about Iraq being involved in the anthrax attacks, which were not true. These stories were by Judy Miller, who got her information from the neocons in the Pentagon, led by Paul Wolfowitz. Prior to the Iraq war, the NY Times was pushing out Zionist propaganda with the best of them, stories about the aluminum tubes, yellowcake from Niger and mobile biological weapons labs. They were also printing stories that falsely said that Atta had met with Iraq officials in Prague or Budapest, I forget which. The FBI had photos of Atta in Virginia during the same time frame.
Either the Times knew or the Zionists writers had to know the stories were incorrect or at least unproven. The writers were Miller, Krauthammer, Safire and others. They played a large part in the march to war.
Many columns by MSNBC also falsly state facts about Iran's nuclear energy program, by refferring to it as a nuclear bomb program. You rarely read disenting views of anything negative regarding Iran in the NY Times or MSNBC. Example is article below -
Retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer says that an FBI insider told him the dubious terror plot to assassinate a Saudi ambassador, which has been blamed on Iran was likely manufactured by the Obama administration, because no information about the plot even exists within FBI channels.
The plot, an assassination attempt against Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States, Adel al-Jubeir, was pinned on an Iranian-American used-car salesman from Texas and subsequently linked by the Obama administration to a wider conspiracy controlled by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.
According to the administration, used car salesman Mansour J. Arbabsiar tried to hire assassins from a Mexican drug gang to carry out the murder, but the head of the drug gang turned out to be a DEA agent posing as a Mexican Los Zetas gangster. The story has all the hallmarks of classic FBI entrapment tactics that have characterized almost every major terror bust in recent times.
Having personally interrogated Iranians, Shaffer doubted the fact that members of the elite Quds Force would risk carrying out an assassination in the United States when it would be far easier to conduct such a plot in the middle east.
It has also served as a useful distraction for Attorney General Eric Holder, who is currently under investigation for his role in the infamous Fast and Furious program, which saw the federal government deliver thousands of military-grade weapons to leaders of Mexican drug gangs.
“That the current “alleged” plot pinned on Iran revolves around yet another undercover federal agency conducting a long-term sting operation defies belief,” writes Tony Cartalucci. “That we are expected to believe one of Iran’s most elite military forces left such a sensitive, potentially war-starting operation to a used-car salesman and a drug gang reported in the papers daily for its involvement with US government agencies (and who turns out to actually be undercover DEA agents) is so ridiculous it can only be “made up” as Secretary Clinton puts it. More accurately, it is the result of an impotent US intelligence community incapable of contriving anything more convincing in the face of an ever awakening American public, to bolster its morally destitute agenda. The cartoonish nature of the plot and the arms’ length even its proponents treat it with to maintain plausible deniability is indicative of a dangerously out of control ruling elite and an utterly incompetent, criminally insane government.”
The key word is "intentionally".
The Times screws up once in a while, but very rarely. Fox misrepresents and distorts on purpose.
"Zionist Propaganda" we know where you're coming from!
If it is a nuclear power program then why do they burie those sites underground?
New York Times = National Enquiry. Made up stories from things like Michele Obama has Aliens baby. LMAO!!!! What a joke for both.
You went too far, Lizzie. Your credibility just dropped to below zero.
And you have been reported Lizzie, for going too far.
If thats your only responce Lizzy then I feel bad for you. Heres one for you. Prove I wasn't in space at that time, or on mars. I can prove I didn't do those things. All I need is a list of unsolved murders in the US including the state that those happend in. I can tell you and prove it that I was in Delaware in 2009 finishing up some school. What insane retoric are you going to say now Lizzy.
Wow, Lizzie. That was the most egregious thing I've heard on here yet. You should be banned. The three people who voted the comment up should be ashamed of themselves as well. False accusation can amount to a criminal offense.
Who cares about Rupert Murdoch. He own Faux! I just wanna know what's gonna happen to that cute, scrappy wife of his!!
Although I, In no way like what was done to him in front of Parliament, when his wife had his back I wanted to scream "YOU GO RIDE OR DIE CHICK!!!!
trent-2358408--so, tell me, do you get a penny a post or a dime a post? Yes, people make a living posting to blogs--and it is really obvious when they do (like Roy Wilson and yourself) as their posts are extremely repetitive and do not forward any point.
As you know full well, no one can prove an absence. It is impossible to prove, for example, that one is not an angel, sent by God to do his bidding, along with a magically created background of people who remember you from childhood to the present--as God simply created that. Similarly, one cannot prove that the NY Times in its history has never printed something intentionally false--one could only prove individual occasions where they did.
In fact, the NYT--as it has been in existence for a very long time and has cooperated with the government in many cases--probably has intentionally, and at the behest of the city, state, or federal government chosen not to print something that the reporters and editors knew was true but had been asked not to print so as to keep service personnel or other individuals from harm. Such stories are usually printed later, after such people would no longer be endangered by the information.
However, there is a distinction between withholding information and printing innocuous stories in its place, and intentionally printing what is repeatedly shown to be a falsehood. While FOX News is very, very good about covering up what they are doing--the process they use is so consistent that one can trace it. Bloggers--who cannot be linked to FOX because they are hired freelance, though it makes no sense that they were not hired by FOX or the RNC or other organization since FOX picks up the story so quickly--invent information and post it on the web. The FOX entertainment shows pick up the story and gossip about it--and others begin to gossip about it. Then, FOX news very accurately and truthfully reports that there is a story that many people are talking about and they summarize the lies from the bloggers.
A real news organization will not report information from bloggers without trying to doublecheck the information--when they cannot get confirmation, they either do not print/report or they print/report with a lot of caveats. They are required to do this if they are broadcast news. They are also required to provide a correction if the news is proved to be false. They fire people (as they did with Dan Rather) when they do not follow the process and are caught at it--as well they should.
Now, MSNBC does in fact fail to triangulate sources as they should--they also fail to correct when they are proven false. We can look at the silly stories about the girl who died, theoretically due to kissing her boyfriend who had just eaten a peanut-butter cracker. The girl may have died after kissing her boyfriend, but the cause was her asthma and the fact that she'd just smoked marijuana (something that her parents probably did not want known, as it might have voided any insurance claims). I am fairly sure that MSNBC printed the story before checking with a specialist on peanut butter allergies (who would have cast doubt on the claim) and that they never bothered fixing the original story after the death report was released.
Most other news sources, however, are a lot more responsible. MSNBC, which is sloppy in its work, is a lot different from FOX--which is not sloppy, but craven. Even the Republican party has repeatedly slipped up and called FOX its own news organization, and FOX has also slipped up and said it--and you can go find this out if you want to.
But, the main point here is that someone is paying people to get into blogs and repeat the same nonsense--your insistence that other people prove things when you do not have to, and Roy Wilson's continuous misinformation--and it is fairly clearly a conservative organization. That it is so neatly dovetailed with FOX efforts allows one to know that there is coordination--is FOX doing it? Is the RNC doing it? Is some other individual paying for it? Who knows?
Still, patterns are too obvious for people to ignore--FOX is a propaganda arm for the ultra-wealthy conservatives (who do not always like Republicans and do sometimes chummy up to Democrats if they think it will get them somewhere). And, you are dong transparent trolling. Have a great day.
Look the only reason that Obama was elected was to have a scape goat for the right to blame all the s**t that Bush & Crew did to get us in this mess. See they thought that being the first black president they could keep him under thier thumb. they thought he would be just another uncle Tom that would do what ever they said. And they weren`t going to help him do anything unless he played by thier rules and passed what ever they put in a bill. Then they found out that he wasn`t going to be thier wipping boy. So in 2010 they used thier famous fear and race tactics to take the house back and then they knew that he wouldn`t be able to do nothing unless they wanted to let him. Cus everybody knows you can`t do anything without the house`s vote they had him right where they wanted. But much to thier surprise he started going to the public and blaming them (and for good reason) for thier do nothing filabustering tactics to help this country out. And now the public see`s what is really going on. And it started back firing on them and they (the public) knows who to really blame for the mess were in and whos going to get us out of it. He wouldn`t fold under thier do nothing pressure and started going to thier home states and making them the real scape goats and they ain`t liking that at all are they. Then you gotta look at the clowns that are running for president because everyone that would have even a chance at winning is smart enough to stay out this time around HUH!. I guess ole UNCLE TOM ain`t playing thier game anymore.
What?
HEY TRENT. Prove that the grass is green!!!
I'm with Lizzie.
It's a typical FOX NEWT tactic. Make unfounded claims, then force the accused to engage in defending themselves against UNFOUNDED CLAIMS.
They STILL don't believe that Obama was born in Hawaii, lol.
They're STILL asking for Obama's college transcripts.
They're STILL ...oh, nevermind.
Hey TRENT!
Prove that you're NOT GAY! (Nothing wrong with being gay-just that teapublicans hate the thought)
Have a nice day.
Trent is a SOCIALIST.
He supports government organizations that distribute free meals, healthcare, food, mass transportation, housing, etcetera...All at tax payer's expense.
Prove that you're not a Socialist, Trent....
Trent, in classical form,TOTALLY misses the point.
The point IS, Trent, that you shouldn't HAVE TO defend against the claims that Lizzie made.
Lizzie's post, albeit hasty and ill-advised, aptly called you out.
Feeling the sting of your own barbs, now?
You have a nice day, hear?
Larry-2260635 "The NY Times do not intentionally publish false information"
Thanks for the laugh....Roy Wilson.
Hey, Larry.
Roy Wilson is laughing at you.
You must have said something true again.
To all who checked Lizzie up and support her stupid " comment". Even if taken out of context, it is still asinine. Since it is obviously not true, it amounts to libel or slander. Both are criminal offenses, as is false accusation. No wonder so many think left-leaning people are nutters. The ends justify the the means, no matter how cruel . You all should be embarrassed, but are probably proud of your "brilliance". Sad. Shut yer yap.... shut yer yap ! Please .
PacemParabellum.
Make me.
Did you miss the part where I said it was a Hasty and Ill-advised statement?
Did it fly over your head that FOX's libelous and slanderous practices result in criminal and dangerous ends?
Did it give you pause to reflect on YOUR support for false-accusing, lying organizations and those who defend it here?
Apparently NOT.
SAD.
I'm glad you're upset, though. Tells me I'm doing something right.
Oh, and thanks for the Self-Refective Projectionist soliloquy.
That was rich.
You have a nice day, now.
Sincerely,
Shut Yer Yap.
Mwah!
LOL. Who said I supported crime ? Who said I was "upset" ? Do you really know how to write only in Bizarro-ease? I guess I wasted both of our time trying to point out intolerance and infantile comments.
I won't try to interfere with your "Freedom of Silly Speech" or make any further observations on it. Please continue to live happily in your fantasy Vineworld where your "friends" check you up for inanities.
You are out of your league,son. Have a nice day, yourself. Cheers !
PacemParabellum.
Lol. You support FOX News. Guilty.
You're right, though. You DO waste a lot of time trying to point out intolerance and infantile comments. Why don't you just go back to committing acts of intolerance and making infantile comments? Oh, that's right. You never stopped.
Here, let me help you out, junior. Intolerance of the Intolerant is not intolerance. Got it?
Nor is pointing out racism being a racist.
Nor is trying to fix the disparities between the Rich and poor "Class warfare."
Nor is being inclusionary "a war on Christianity."
Nor is being a biased, propaganda machine being "Fair and balanced."
Using a fake, glib tone is just evidence of the Illusory Superiority Complex you (and most of your ilk) suffer from.
I understand. Oh, and you NEED to imagine that the posters here that check me up are my "friends." I get it. It helps to perpetuate that illusion of superiority you've got.
I imagine you doing a little endzone dance in your living room - all by your lonesome.
You enjoy that "league" now.
It's a gift from me.
Toodle loo.
Keep working on that originality thing, though.
Have a spiffy day.
XOXO
Sounds fair and balanced.
The noose is closing around Murdoch.
Not the most honorable and trustworthy king of the worlds media organization, I won't call it a news media because this would imply reporting on news. Murdoch runs a global propaganda organization which has tenticles in newsprint, magazines, radio and TV as well as Cable. This kind of power can put Presidents in office. Most of his outlets report slanted information. He will tell you that his cadre of staff are free to report as they see fit, but all on that staff knows how he feels about any politician or policy and if they want t keep their jobs they better know how to report the information. News is events that occur of its own making. When reporters interject something to cause an event, this is not news, this is manipulation. If Mr. Murdoch were arrested, this would be news. You can bet that his outlets would say he was detained.
FOX Noose.
Rabid Right's Rupert is on the Run. Say that fast 3 times !
Murdoch Isn't he the owner of fox news?
Another Rich Right Winger doing the good deed and keeping everyone else enslaved.
Murdock also owns: The Times broadsheet newspaper. Buya!!!!
Yep. Citizen Kane in a much larger dimension, feeding the trolls on these boards and pretty much anyone accusing liberals for all the ills in the world. The largest sect in the world.
What?
I really can't believe the cult worship of Faux and Murdoch. People, your idols have feet of clay, maybe even mud.
MSNBC's Maddow, Schultz, Matthews and O'Donnell, purveyors of exaggeration, distortion and gossip. No wonder Olbermann got fired. What else is new and who's next to go?
Tad
actually not....if you follow the facts!
Show me a single case where Rachel Maddow lied or distorted the truth.
Tadpole.
Answer Ferrosynthesis's question.
Now issue warrants for Murdoch and his idiot son
They're turning state's evidence. Drop a dime on your underlings and get out of jail free.
He' s in hiding. His alias is '' Mudslinging Murdie ". It gives him steet creds. He leads the " As- Hole in the Wall " Gang !
just look at murdoch's ugly sinfull face does that evil face looks like he has any humanitarian or copassionate gene in his evil body.just listen to his two racist,bigot pimp o'reilly and nazi hannity and ofcourse the fox news.Nothing but hateful lies.
My GRACIOUS, bloodytruth!
And you have the nerve to accuse others of being "hateful"?!
GBL
Agreed. Just more lybral hate speak.
Yeah, but you gotta admit it's an ugly face...lol
You forget the biggest idiot of all GLEN BECK the scumbag
When you "hate" intolerant, ignorant and decietful people, it's not actually Hate.
Have a nice day.
Way to go Scottland Yard! You go get 'em!! Anyone still believe that the Murdoch's are the only ones who knew nothing?
Hmmmmm...Isn't the Ditto Head that owns the Hooter's Fox Network?Yes it is! I wonder when the police will search the New York offices of Fox?
They are going after the wrong people. The foot soldiers just take orders from above. Murdoch is the one who should be arrested. He is the Kingpin!
But with his money and influence, that will never happen.
Remove the foundations and the castle collapses - including those safely in their Ivory Towers.
Isn't it common practice when buiding a case against criminal organizations and conspiracies to keep going at the footsoldiers until someone eventually breaks ranks and names names - turns Queen's evidence.... or King's.... depends how long this keeps up! ;)
Don't forget about the golden boy, Pierce Morgan. He was the head of that skanky paper, and I without a doubt, know he knew about the hackings and did nothing. Deport this trash back to the prospective countries AFTER they serve jail HERE.
Karma is just a BITCH, ain't it Murdoch?
LMFAO!
We aren't there yet, but the Brits are taking us closer.
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I'm no fan of the Murdoch(s), nor am I inclined to watch any of their cable news stations whether they be state-side or not. That said, does anyone else find it somewhat disturbing that these employees were "outted" by the newspaper's own fact finding committee? "The faux guarding the hen house" flew to mind. Could it be that Rupert-N-Em are feeding Scotland Yard sacrificial scapegoats? The only investigation that would be credible, in my opinion, would be one carried out by a 3rd party with full access to all pertinent records, etc. Otherwise, this could all just be another show. . one MADE for Fox et al.
hahaha the fair and balance are getting arrested..wounder what fox will talk about ..when ask..oh Obama health care bill.no not that.oh i know Obama is attacking Christians on top of holiday in
He nothing more than a rebublican front man in the US
Yes!!!
You're next Fox!
this is great..finally some truth ..corporations are people..yes go to jail
Sorry, not a corporation, family owned.
The British are going FOX hunting...
Anyone else see the humor in this?
IMHO- News Corporation is not a corporation?? Splain
..."IMHO- News Corporation is not a corporation?? Splain"...
That's an easy one.
They're People, My Friend - Mitt.
Have a nice day.
Makes you wonder....what has Murdoch been up to all these years......
80% of Fox viewers had at least one of these three misconceptions
Misperceptions, the Media and the Iraq War
Study Finds Widespread Misperceptions on Iraq
Highly Related to Support for War
October 02, 2003
A new study based on a series of seven US polls conducted from January through September of this year reveals that before and after the Iraq war, a majority of Americans have had significant misperceptions and these are highly related to support for the war in Iraq.
The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.
...http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc
Study: Fox News Viewers Misunderstand Issues More than Others
Dec 17th, 2010
Fox News Channel viewers were more likely to misunderstand a host of issues and subjects during this fall’s election season than people who relied more on other news sources such as MSNBC, PBS and the network evening newscasts, according to a study just released by the University of Maryland.
To be clear, the study doesn’t say FNC or any other TV news organization deliberately fed misinformation to its viewers. Instead, the study attempted to assess the ability of members of FNC’s audience, and others, to process or understand information correctly.
As a result, the study concluded that, when issues were misunderstood, they were misunderstood most of the time by a greater percentage of the FNC audience than any other group.
http://www.convo.io/news/13674/study-fox-news-viewers-misunderstand-issues-more-than-others
Fox New is akin to a cult with a cult following. Ever tried to have a conversation with one of their loyal viewers? Take my word for it. . .they're programmed through and through. They can't even form an original thought, much less an original or unscripted response. I heard 3 different Fox loyalists say the EXACT same thing in response to a question I asked about Obama, on the same day and in entirely different situations and locations. . .all separate from one another. That just doesn't happen well, at least, it doesn't happen when you have 3 individuals with 3 different skill sets in the areas of thought processing and vocabulary. Proof positive to me, at least, that Fox is a propaganda machine of epic proportions. That their viewers are confused and misguided should come as no surprise. That's what cults do to their loyalists, and that is why those who are loyal to Fox are fiercely adamant and closed minded. They've been brainwash and only we know it.
And your not?
Ah Randy, we rest our case.
You have to understand that many of those misinterpreters, really do understand what is going on but like the support that a worldwide organization lends to their basic ideas. I'm not like that, but Fox News said it is so, so it must be right, attitude. Obama has assualted the Church, people know this is not the truth, but Fox spreads it like it came from Luke or John. They tell their neighbor, Obama sent troops into the Catholic Church. That neighbor tells someone else they forced the women to have abortions, and made them all take contraceptives. Say it enough times with variations and Obama becomes the new AntiChrist.These people are all looking for a reason which justifies a prior or previous idea and Fox has provided the meat for their meal.
At FOX, We provide the narrative, YOU provide the news.
FOX - Fear and Ballast.
I wounder what fox and friends will talk about.this is news..no they will talk about how to cook a rib eye steak
I remember when we had party phone lines. Everybody knew every bodies business. Now News Corp. pays to have a party line and knows all the worlds business. Wonder how much the NSA knows about News Corp but won't go after them???
Gene, this reminded me of Lily Tomlin on Rowan and Martin LaughIN.
One ringy dingy, two ringy dingy...
we have to stop this ..what should we do ..lets tell our viewers Obama is attacking..Christians on top of Holiday inn..before it goes world wide
we the people already know the illegal upsurp is doing that.the devil{ovomit}and his band of gypsys,have the media all bought and paid for.we the people don,t listen to the media t.v radio,newspapers.we know lucifer has the media under his thumb.as is the treasonous traders,holdup,pelosi,kagan,reid,napaltano,doh,doj,the un people.and all the politicians for aiding and abetting the devil{ovomit}who were elected to uphold the oath of office and protect we the people under the constitution,but ovomit and his magic act hasn,t fooled any of ,we the people.and we the people are rising to vote ,this illegal president out of office with his band of fools.god bless all american veterans and all american citizensl
oh Obama wants to change the contitution now not yall right
Elvis, quit it! You know it's toooooo easy. ROFLMAO
They'll keep the parts they (TPs) like, and the rest of it will become TP for the rest of us. That's the way the TP rolls!
Hey Robert have you been taking your meds if not i think you should for all our sakes
It is just a matter of time before Piers Morgan is arrested. We can only hope it happens live and on the air (and someone is watching ).
what lies has he said??
If we (Brits) do prosecute Piers Morgan - please could you (Americans) agree to keep him - when he decamped to the US Britain was gripped by much rejoicing.
Horrible slimey creature that he is.
(Elvis - he's admitted listening to a voicemail of Heather Mills-McCartney's - he won't say the source but implies it was with permission but she has sworn, on oath, to the Inquiry that she never gave such permission to him or anyone else; Paul McCartney also denies this. Morgan also likes to keep quiet as to why he was sacked/ encouraged to resign as the Daily Mirror's editor - he printed on the front page faked photographs of British soldiers urinating on Iraqi prisoners - the photos were clearly forged to anyone with even half a braincell - unfortunately they were sent to Piers Morgan.....!)
I did not know that thanks
Ligeti,
We'll keep Morgan, you folks keep Trump.
Ah, I'm beginning to like these negotiations. Good bye (or should I say buy) Trump.
nobrent.
Can you take Trump too?
Pretty please?
Sorry yap, I don't have any red power ties to gag him with.
yuk, yuk
"Murdoch to quit newspapers?
"This is huge. It will raise some very serious questions about the viability of The Sun .... You then start to ask questions about the extent to which News Corp and Murdoch in particular, may want to start getting out of newspapers all together," said Steven Barnett, professor of communications at Westminster University, London."
Murdoch doesn't need to quit newspapers. Nor should he. It is who and what he is. The British Government and USA Government are the ones who need to act and shut down his entire criminal media operation! It is a pure parasite on this planet. It's an abomination causing desolation. Just watching him operate and lead the devilish conservative horde around the world makes me think Murdoch is nothing less than a human embodiment of a high priest in Lucifer's army. Definitely from the "Synagogue of Satan" itself. It should be over for him and his minions. They are nothing but corrosive, destructive and evil.
yes the tea party are the anti-christ party
fox news is the tea party
You know theres such a thing as freedom of speach right? Stop spewing your hate.
There's a difference between speaking freely about the truth and spreading outright lies that lead to mass hysteria and full on hatred. No, Fox does not have the right to do that to the mass public via any media outlet. Let them write books about their hatred, but while on the air they must report the news as it is reported to them. . .off with the spin!
Wow! Teaparty defending freedom of speech. WTF?
Explain this, "freedom of speach" thing to me.
Anything like Freedom of speech?
You know, that thing that Teapublicans try to use to surpress everyone else's freedom of speech?
Is that what it's called?
Freedom of S-P-E-A-C-H?
Whew! I'm glad you cleared it up for me.
Now I get it!
Social LISP.
Ray Cyst.
Dick Taters.
Muscle Hymns.
Hay Tread.
I'm not fluent in Bizzaro-ese. Sorry.
Have a nice day.
Sorry, but Bizzaro-ese is obviously the ONLY thing you are fluent in so....shut yer yap. Have a nice day. ;o)
I suppose, from where YOU stand Pacem, SANITY seems pretty insane.
Then again, thanks for the compliment.
I always like to test my foreign language skills by conversing with a native speaker.
'Preciate it.
Try to be a little more original, though.
Have a nice day :)
Double Mwah!
Yours truly,
Shut Yer Yap.
Mwah to the Nth power back at you. :o) Enough of this silliness. Have a great day, shut yer yap.
Somebody get me some Purell.
Hey, Pacem!
Tell me again how the Earth is flat and only 6000 years old..
Wait. Lemme get my snuggie.
So when will Murdoch be arrested?
AFTER, he runs out of money and the Good Ole Boy Club of America abandons him.
I think a line from "Scarface" would go good about now. I leave it to you to use your favorite. I have mine and its perfect.
Show the pictures of the famous 5