Hey, this is ONE unfortunate family. NOT THE WHOLE WORLD --- WAYYYYYYY to generalize!

She isn't just generalizing. She's telling the truth. Is this the only family who has EVER been murdered in this world? It's a pretty sick world. Have you seen anything on the Powell family? The father killing his wife, then two sons and himself? There is senseless murder everywhere. Not just that one family. Unfortunate is a complete understatement. The parents must be absolutely devastated. My condolences to the remaining family members.

My guess is Nancy has nothing better to do than troll and pick apart everybody else's comments.

My guess is that Amberd is a little bit of a troll...What world do you live in? My world is pretty darn cool!!!

It is a sad world we live in but its not the same world as Nancy and her sister Dano live in.

Cops: Woman, 2 kids killed in Spokane, Wash.

There's another of those one unfortunate familes and only a day and miles apart.

You are absolutely right "It Is A Sick World We Live In", "Nancy4366" is living in some fantasy world she has concocted in her own mind! This "WORLD" needs to be taken out and fortunately God has a plan, so in the future only the righteous ones will serve him and be the caretakers of this beautiful planet Earth that he "created" for us all. Be patient and have faith! Let all those who believe in a "Man-Made Government, Greedy Captains of Industry and deceitful Man-Made Religions and its Man-Made teachings, live out their lives believing in all the lies, for soon they will no longer be on this earth to torture those who truly are meant to be here.

These comments remind me of an exchange I had with a conservative (he even has a far right-wing Web site); I told him that being born a white person in the USA during this time frame was a fluke and like winning the Lottery. He got all upset with me and claimed I must be crazy (he claimed I was something different every day), his reasoning??? He believed God chose him to be born and luck played no part in his being a white male living in the USA today....he thought he was some kind of special - and I'll have to agree; he was special alright...lol. I guess he doesn't buy into the sperm theory.

Unfortunately in Quebec, even with a first degree murder conviction, the perp can easily be out walking the streets again in 7 or 8 years. It wil take 4 years to complete the trial, he will be found guilty and given life for each life, life in Canada means 20 years (3x20=60 years). However ALL time served in Canada is served concurrently, making a 60 years sentence really only 20. Then he will receive 2 times of time served subtracted from his sentence, if its 4 years to complete the trial that will be 8 years taken off the final leaving only twelve years to serve (this is why defense attorneys drag out the trial). Then he will be allowed MANDATORY early release of half the sentence on good behavior... leaving a 6 years served total. There is no JUSTICE system in Canada, just a legal system. I know many that have murdered that have never seen jail time after a trial.

New rule!

NO MORE KILLING CHILDREN!!!!!!!!

WTF!!!!

Ken-

I am an American and in America we have more people in prison than any other country... Which is another comment altogether, but that is so shocking that someone that evil could ever walk the streets again... Do they warn people when he gets out?

Why the children??? All murder is horrific but children??? This is all that's been in the news lately.

I hope to never understand what in the h--- is going on with people today. I see the news and want to cry. I could never hurt another person, but I swear if you put me in a room with someone who could so easily kill an innocent child. I couldn't be held responsible for my actions. Is it possible that such a group of individuals could exist with no conscience no compassion, worse than any animal.

Ken Trout, above, describes the grim truth of holding (or rather not holding) human beings responsible for vicious crimes, particularly killers of children ... children not only innocent, but helpless even to defend themselves.

To allow politicians to degrade the laws with the absurdities of exemptions, and to emasculate Law Enforcement to the degree that we are seeing, especially in our Western Hemisphere, not only does not fulfill our rationale for making laws in the first place, but actually does not weed out the mental defectives who are aberrations of civilized humanity.

Not only are these criminals enabled to fulfill their abnormal addictions and/or brain dead inability to understand right from wrong, good from evil, they are virtually encouraged by this chilling philosophy of their presumed "rights." I thought “ignorance of the Law is no excuse.” Killing kids for whatever contrived reason is UNEQUIVOCALLY WRONG.

The globe now has Seven Billion human beings crowding each other and and too many criminals are among us, protected. They are degrading this planet, all of them passing on their genes and life styles right along either by propagation or life style emulation. That gives them power!

"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." (Baron Acton, to House of Lords in English Parliament, 1770)

Let the punishment fit the crime. And you "defense" attorneys... check the facts, a given in that position (but equally true for the prosecution) ... but don't manufacture and contort the information nor resort to nonsensical reasoning to “protect” a client whom you know is a guilty killer. When you do that, you are protecting him from spreading the "wealth" of his destructive nature to kill off more innocent people and children. That is not justifiable in any culture.

Nature has produced other vertebrates, and I am not particularly asserting evolution, but I am qualified to use metaphor. Dogs with rabies, for example, are killer dogs. And how do we deal with them? The answer is inevitable.

The abnormalities of the “human” killer mentality seem almost horrendously contagious. When our law-givers and politicians catch the disease we who are standing in the wings ain't gonna make it. All the Ticky Tacky Techy Toys we bow to today might be a riveting analogy to bowing down to Baal in the world's most important account of human frailty.

If so, you can bet your sweet patootie that the human race is, indeed, racing to extinction faster than you can possibly realize.

I Concur wholeheartedly... Unfortunately, it is also a well known fact in Canada that the the laws forbid Canadians to defend themselves. We do not have the constitutional right even in our own homes, many have been charged and convicted for taking out the trash while protecting loved ones.

I really do prefer the American constitution as it guarantee of one's rights, the only rights the Canadian Constitution protects is the criminals.

Where are you getting your information, Ken? Can you provide references? Because it's not true.

For crimes committed before December 2, 2011, a "life" sentence for murder makes an offender ineligible for parole for the first 25 years, but they can legally be denied parole (repeatedly) and held indeterminately.

For crimes committed after December 2, 2011, the 25 year ineligibility is now consecutive - thus for these crimes it would be 75 years.

And there most certainly are self-defense laws in Canada. There is a clause that you may not do more than is deemed necessary to defend yourself (as in, you can't use excessive violence under simple assault (eg, unarmed attacker) or continue to assault a neutralized attacker), but there definitely are clauses in the criminal code that protect someone who kills someone in self-defense when such force is deemed necessary - as in you are under imminent threat of death yourself. (see the Criminal Code of Canada, sections 34-37)

You can take a look at the Dec 2011 amendments here:

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/AnnualStatutes/2011_5/page-1.html

Skate_08

You need to read more, after Dec 2011 the change to the statute is that on exceptional multiple murders the court MAY consider forcing the suspect into a consecutive sentence and ONLY if the jury recommends it, the norm is STILL CONCURRENT sentencing. And IF they manage to make it a concurrent that doesn't stop the appeal process; don't forget no one in this country has been given that sentence and made it last as of yet.

Besides this argument is semantics; do you like the fact that life doesn't really mean life? BTW- also in Canada we MUST PROVE actual planned intent to kill, this is why 1st degree murder is so difficult, most in this country get aggravated manslaughter. How can you prove that even though you pulled the trigger while aiming at his head that you didn't want to just injure him?... this is Canadian Law!

745.21 Describes what you are saying about the jury recommendation, but if you read further, 745.51 says that the judge can also make the decision. So how is this different from the US system? Here, sentences can be served concurrently or consecutively too. And, 1st degree murder in the US is also defined by planned intent to kill. I'm sorry, Ken, but you're basically going round in circles trying to vilify the Canadian system for reasons that also apply to the US one.

MRZ,

"No women, no children" "The professional 1994"

Skate_08

In most states you need only be associated to be charged with the crime, if one is holding the weapon during and armed robbery and kills the clerk, both robbers are charged with murder, you see Intent is proved by action, in Canada action is proved by intent, ecactly the opposite> I know a 16 years old girl shot and killed by a whole family shooting at her with rifles, but only because the police can't prove which family member the bullet come from, so no one is charged. In America the whole damn family would have went to jail for murder where they belonged. And then there is Day Parole which has not changed... it can be granted by the parole board after only 30% of time served! Why do we even have a parole board that hands out passes for murderers? Remember Oct of 2011, the child killer that escaped while out on day parole from Drumheller? They were lucky he only tied up the guard and didn't kill her also, it would have been very easy for him. And your trying to tell me the system is OK???!!! You're not currently trying to get out of prison on a technicality are you, nothing would surprise me.

Skate_08

BTW - To respond to the second half of your comment. That's the problem with the Canadian Code, who deems what is necessary at the time when you are afraid for your own life? There shouldn't be a trial to see if you acted appropriately if you feel your life was in danger, because if you wait until the robber pulls the trigger, your life is already over isn't it! It's my God given right to protect me and my family regardless that the Canadian Code may think how much force is necessary. Tell me, if a guy is holding a knife to your son's throat, are you going to apply just the necessary amount of protection? Your a fool Skate_88 if you don't think the Canadian code will be on your side if you kill the bastard. An Edmonton jewelry store clerk was convicted of Murder for shooting an armed robber that just stabbed and killed his own father in front of him while committing the robbery in the store.This happened in the mid 80s, and no the laws haven't changed since then. The Canadian Codes are built for the criminals not for the victims and I have many many many examples of criminals walking in this country because of the code, because of the judges and because of the lawyers.

Don't call me a fool for doing the little bit of research you could have done before claiming mis-information. If you also do so, you'll find that parole is not automatic and there are more protections for Canadian citizens under the law than you are trying to make people believe. You'll also find, with minimal research, that there are far more people get away with murder on technicalities in the US than in Canada, and that violent crime in Canada is dwarfed by violent crime in the US. And if you commit a revenge killing in the US, the self-defense statute won't get you off here either. You may not like the system because of the 2 examples you've given, but you're still far, far safer in Canada than in the US. Of course, if you'd rather move to the US so you can buy a gun, shoot someone, and see if you get away with it, go right ahead...

And I never once said the system was OK, I just provided evidence of where your comments were wrong.

My comments are not wrong, your aree based on your interpretation of what Canadian Code MAY hand out in sentencing... My point is is, parole AT 30% TIME served IS the norm in Canada! You say they Don't have to.. my point is, it shouldn't EXIST! You need to read my comments further below on my relationship with the RCMP; you talk about paperwork, I'm telling you what is REAL and what is happening, there is ALWAYS an out regardless what little tittle they will change in Code, there are thousands of predetermined cases give precedence. Karla Homolka walked after only 12 years after raping torturing and murdering 4 people (including her sister); guess what.. the Judge "believed" she was only a vistim herself so the Law let her off easy. THen the videos surfaced and proved she was THE MAIN INSTIGATOR! dAMN GOOD THING WE HAVE LAWS & JUDGES THAT PROTECT THE GUILTY VICTIMS. YOU are niave skate as your faith is in a book that has proven itself over the past 40 years but you keep claiming things are better now? Let's watch the news and find out shall we?

Again, never once said "things are better now" - other than comparing the current situation in Canada to the current situation in the US, all I provided were facts and links to back them up. Don't tell someone else to read what you wrote when you didn't read what they wrote either.

skate

what are you 12?

You are right. And you know when society feels it is ok to kill unborn babies it goes straight downhill from there with no respect for life whatever the age. Anything goes as to how we can treat each other now.

Stephanie, I hope you will adopt a little african american baby to back up your anti-abortion rhetoric. Because so many white people are going to China and Russia for their adoptees, ignoring the african-american babies at home who are languishing in orphanages. If every anti-abortionist truly believed what they said abut life being so precious, all of these babies would be placed.

Psss Indiana, in case you haven't heard, abortions has been around since the days of kings and pharaohs.

I agree with you, we live in times where human life does not mean anything to some people. GOD FORGIVE US ALL FOR OUR SINS, BECAUSE HE GAVE US THE GREATEST GIFT OF ALL, HIS SON'S LIFE FOR OUR REDEMPTION.

Big picture and lonesome,

What's the matter, all the pro choice forums filled up today! Go troll elsewhere!

As for life having value, study history. It never has meant much. Just look at Rome as one example. The gladiators are a prime example. Armies marching to and fro. Even primitive societies murdered, raped and pilaged. The only difference now is the publicity. Welcome to the real world people.

MRZ-1191248

Big picture and lonesome,

What's the matter, all the pro choice forums filled up today! Go troll elsewhere!

Go pedal your abortion debate in that thread. This one has ZERO to do with abortion, pro or con. Is it any wonder people get peeved with the entire issue?

trust,

Isn't that what I said?

MRZ

No you said for the PRO choice to go elsewhere. Nothing about the Pro life crowd.

Did we forget what the story was about? It wasn't about prochoice or prolife, but about the dessimation of a family. And by the way...abortion has been around since women have been getting pregnant, and people don't kill because of abortion, they kill because they're sick or valueless. You don't like abortion teach your sons to carry condoms and your sons and daughters to respect themselves and one another. Back up your words with care and nurture toward people who don't have your good fortune and you will be sure to end abortion.

Yeah and let's blame it all on the guns, too ...Oh, Wait a MINUTE!! Thats right!! There are laws in Canada that prohibit gun ownership!!! Well, I guess that worked out pretty well for them, then didn't it???

Ban all guns, that will stop the criminals from owning them. Shyah,right, thats a great plan!!!

"Peoples" dont know anything, man. They're IDIOTS!!

Despite your sarcasm, it's pretty telling that a shooting death in Canada makes international news. Would the same thing here in the US even be reported on? Not likely - too common.

More than likely the Mayor did something that upset this man. So, in retaliation he goes on a vented anger trangressed to his innocent children. It's not just here or canada, but everywhere. Doomsdayers might just be right. The maker is making up his mind. Should I end it all now, or give them a chance by xmas. So sad. Powell in America, 2 innocent boys who ran to him out of happiness, and then he kills them. Why can't the disgruntled of the world kill themselves? Why take your whole family with you when they don't want to go. What a sick, sick, sick world we live in today................

yes MRZ-

You are right. It's very sad. There has never been a species more hell-bent on destroying itself than the human species. We can't see the forest for the trees. We read all across the globe on how to kill ourselves and our neighbors and we make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Doesn't even matter if there is a God or not, because unless HE or SHE intervenes--THERE IS NO HOPE!

My thoughts exactly. Shouldnt their very restrictive laws have stopped this? Guess they need another law.

Why would a law stop someone from having a gun if they wanted it???? The guy murdered someone. He's not worried about illegally possessing a gun!!!!! People hunt here. In all my life living in QC, I never heard any talk of strict gun laws.

Police did not confirm the victims were shot. Probably not an automatic weapon like the usa prefers if they were. The people of the usa are armed to the teeth with all the latest weapons so they can kill each other. It is just local news if 2 or 3 shoot each other in the usa. They prefer mass killings for real news.

And this story PROVES it! LOL

Better ban all the knives, cars, and lawnmowers too.

The only automatic weapons made that can be bought by Americans are assault rifles. $500.00 and a form to the ATF, and another $1200.00 and it's yours. However, according to the ATF and FBI, there has never been a crime committed in the USA with a LEGALLY owned assault rifle.

Its $200 for the stamp and like 10 grand minimum to get an actual automatic weapon.

takenaka

Police did not confirm the victims were shot. Probably not an automatic weapon like the usa prefers if they were. The people of the usa are armed to the teeth with all the latest weapons so they can kill each other. It is just local news if 2 or 3 shoot each other in the usa. They prefer mass killings for real news.

try again. You have commented on many single and family shootings takenaka. Just click on your name if you can't remember. Also go learn what an automatic weapon is before making comments. It sure isn't a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Just try to take my RPG away. Just try.

skate_08

Skate_08 You are either extremely naive or only get your news from the Toronto Sun. I can tell you this with absolute positive certainty...MOST CRIMES on our CANADIAN streets NEVER make the news!!! How do I know this? Both my brother and his wife have been RCMP Offices for the best of 30 years each. My uncle was at one time the Deputy Sheriff of B.C.'s Attorney General so I believe I have some inside information for you, most reported attacks, rapes and many deaths quite often never even make a one liner in the newspaper. Not unless its dramatic to upset people. So put your high and mighty opinion that Canadians are less violent than the Americans, its simply not true; Americans are just not afraid to face the facts like most Canadian politicians! Are you a politician Skate? or a Parolee?

I have great respect for you Ken Trout for stating facts instead of the normal "bash everything American". Honest assessments of countries, laws, and realities would go a long way towards improving the entire world. Every country has it's weaknesses and strengths and if everyone spent a little more time on honesty and less on hatred pushed by people with agendas...our species might actually evolve a bit. Unfortunately, every country also has violent crime (rather reported or not)...since HUMANS live in all nations.

I don't believe the death penalty is the answer. It is a far more punishing to have them sitting in a concrete room getting their stools compacted nightly. If we could throw in a couple of 30 minute sessions a year with the victims family and some blunt objects, all the better.

People confuse punishment and restitution for a crime, they are not the same thing... Our society has forgotten about the restitution part for the crime. As a child if I stole something my father would punish me, but I would also have to replace what was stolen plus extra.

I believe a payment in certain crimes, when there is no doubt of the crime, some criminals should pay with their own life. Sitting in prison for 20 years is not a punishment for many of the inmates, how can it be when they actually enjoy their daily routine.

Bottom line is... dead murderers and child offenders have no way to re-offend.

Ken, I wish I could like more than once. I believe you are 100% right and that is how I was raised as well.

Well said, Ken. That's exactly how I was raised and exactly how I will raise my child. If you make a mistake you have to live with the consequences. That being said, mistakes happen...what you do after the fact defines you. When there is no doubt of a crime such as murder, the life of the one who committed the act should be forfeit, otherwise it's just a long 'vacation' with 3 meals a day at the expense of the tax payers.

Ken just how is taking a life repaying ANYTHING? Or do you mean retribution and revenge? I am NOT in favor of murders, molesters, rapists or any other brutal criminal. For all you PRO life types out there how can you justify on one hand barring a womans right to choose and on the other rant about killing someone?

Yes it might be Ross, but alot more expensive.

@Trust....because the baby the woman is wanting to kill is innocent. The CRIMINAL is GUILTY. Jeesh...democrats!

Ken, regular, and Lyrica: That's exactly what's wrong today...youngsters are no longer being raised the way we were. During my "formative years", I had absolutely no fear of the police...it was far worse to face the punishment from my parents for my misdeeds when I got home!

Had~ it's the same for me. I would rather have been punished by a night in jail then have to go home to my parents. They where fair in every punishment I got and also held to the belief that it takes a community to raise a kid. My teachers knew they could talk to my parents about my behavior (good or bad) without my parents accusing them of improper teaching or giving excuses that 'their child is good therefor the teacher must be bad'. It seems some kids today are spoiled, selfish, disrespectful, 'I want I want I want' broken records. Lol that's me going on a rant, I'll get off the stage.

bob a life is a life is a life... or at least that is the argument being used for taking one life for taking another. By the standards that most pro-life folks use, the child is only as innocent as the adult who asks forgiveness. and using sheesh is the same as using the lords name Jesus in vain. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Trust_verily

A life for a life does NOT mean that lives are equal, lawyers are the only ones that believe that. You are assuming a philosophy that is contrived... What a Life for a Life truly means is that after worst crimes are committed the highest available payment for that crime needs to be paid, otherwise we are claiming ALL crimes are equal and shall all serve equal punishment, that makes no sense. Do you believe that life in itself is precious? I do not, I believe it is how we live in society and treat loved ones and our neighbors that dictate how precious life actually is.

I believe a child murderer's life is about as precious as a fatal infectious virus that we need a cure for; both are killers and hold no respect for human life so both needs to be eradicated. Just because one is in a human form shouldn't mean it should be allowed to live.

Someone has you in handcuffs forcing you to read articles on "this crappy site?" Don't make me laugh......you have the option of placing your cursor on the little red "X" just the same as all of us .... get real.....

I have to agree... As an English teacher, even the ungrammatical writing has caught my eye... and in my teaching we touch on the tabloid papers turn of 19th century ... poorly written sensationalism, speculation... appealing to lowest public denominators...

MSNBC headline writers support that label and too often misrepresent the real story; and too often (not always) the general writing is an embarrassment. I tend to trust Reuters these days among the news agencies. Associated Press used to be, but are sloppy now.

For good substantive writing showing informed and sourced opinion (both sides, too) I read the Washington (D.C.) Post.

Keeping murderers and rapist in jail is bad for business. Prisons make more money for petty crimes. They need the beds short term. After all, prisons are private businesses. That can open the door for crooked police and judges.

All people start as a fetus, even you. So now you are on this earth, you take it upon yourself to decide who should have the same right? People know that sex can make a life. Start at that point in your thinking, and you see whats right or wrong. Abortion is about selfishness, and nothing else. F..K excuses.

The liberals are very fond of saying, " It takes a village to raise a child." Just ask Hillary. It was part of her campaign. There are many church and non-religious organizations that help pregnant mothers-to-be, both during and after the pregnancies. Then there are many religious adoption agencies also, but governments like the US and the UK want to tell the religious organizations who they MUST allow to adopt these children. So don't tell me that the pro-Life forces are not willing to take care of the unwanted babies. Please take off your blinders and look at both sides equally. For those of you who are pro-choice and are making these comments (mind you, I am not grouping all pro-choicers in this category; there are many respectful pro-choicers out there) where is the choice these unborn children, both female and male, have. Where is the choice for these unborn young women? After all. the first Right mentioned is the Right to LIFE, then Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness follow.

Is not the organization's choice of their title,"pro-Choice," illogical? When a woman is active in pointing out she has the Right to spread her legs, and that unwanted human being in her womb does not have the right to Life... I cannot help but answer... "But lady, you already made your Choice! It's the baby's turn now."

It's a non-persuasive title for those women with which to identify themselves, I think, especially if they did not make the choice to practice the exhaustive methods of preventing pregnancy we have today.

There is one, in fact, 100% effective, guaranteed and absolutely fool proof as well for avoiding HIV when carefully applied. I think I should patent it. hmmm. Help me support college for my five kids (none of whom are "convenient" but, then, they are blessings and joys to my life).

One comment here said the the rape figures in Canada are single digit percents, while in the United States, rape is recorded as almost 30% of those wanting surgery, which is claimed to be this particular right of Choice for abortion.

Doesn't it seem that it is a convenient claim to make if those ladies want to get rid of the inconvenient baby?

I saw a bumper sticker not so long ago: "Here's to Equal Rights for Unborn Females" Well, we wimmen do have rights, right? Equal rights?

Still not verified as a gun crime.

As a gun owner, I would like to know about draconian gun laws. I have a shotgun for hunting. my nephew has hand guns (he is a collector) and we shoot regularily. Our weapons are regestered. I had to take a hunter safety course to get it but since I am not interested in shooting my hunting partners, the course was a good idea. As ex military, it was pretty easy to pass. It is very tough for anyone with a history of criminal activity or mental problems to get a permit but not that tough for anyone else.

Now in every other civilized nation, it is much tougher as I understand. Great Britain is very tough and actually took back weapons when they instituted their latest laws.

In the US it is very easy to get a weapon (I lived there for five years). Do you think you are safer for that?

The updated article has affirmed the deaths were due to gunshots.

Cheesy-846740, Good post. If you read the Founders writings, including the Constitution, crimes like murder and treason were the the only ones calling for the death penalty. Any other crimes of violence committed drew prison time as much to protect the public as to punish the criminal. All others were handled with restitution, a fine, community service, etc. Sounds like a pretty sensible system to me. It would never fly today, too much money (taxpayers burden) involved. Money=corruption. I wonder how the USA would rank on the incarceration scale if all non-violent offenders were removed from the equation?

That was a movie, If it is fact link to it.

I agree they should kill this scum but the story you are talking about is fiction.

If you find proof of it, I will apologize.

Actually, according to UN statistics from 2009 the number of recorded rapes in Canada is 1.5 per 100,000 population. In ths U.S. the number is 28.6 per 100,00 population. Even given inaccuracy in reporting, different definitions of rape, etc. it is quite clear where the greater danger of rape is.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes

Canada has FAR more rape.Look it up yourself.

The site you refer to has data which is highly unreliable to say the least. For example, the same chart you are referring to shows that there were ZERO rapes in Pakistan. Do you honestly believe that? The number of rapes/sexual asaults in the U.S. for the whole year is given as 30.2!! I suspect that number is really the incidence per 100,000 population but that the website has it mislabelled.

In fact your very own Department of Justice says in The National Crime Victimization Survey for 2010::

U.S. Department of Justice

Office of Justice Programs

Bureau of Justice Statistics

September2011, NCJ 235508

Rape/sexual assaults: 2009 - 125,920 2010 - 188,380

Even if we use the lower number we get a rate of about 42 per 100,000 so I suspect that the difference between this number and the one I state above is that the lower number above is just for RAPE and does not include "lesser" sexual assaults.

In Canada the Canadian equivalent statistics from the Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics shows a total number of around 500 offences per year for a given year around the 2005 - 2010 timeframe for the American stats. This gives a rate of 16 per 100,000 poulation - which is very close to the number I originally quote. At any rate, as I said previously: "Even given inaccuracy in reporting, different definitions of rape, etc. it is quite clear where the greater danger of rape is."

It is also interesting to note that Canadian Government statistics show that less than 6 out of every 100 rapes in Canada are ever reported... I think this changes Canada's shiny image doesn't it?

http://www.sexassault.ca/statistics.htm

Ken,

I expect that the reporting level is about the same in most modern countries and much lower in second and third world countries. Rape is traumatic and going through the reporting and court processes are a second rape. Until that changes, levels of reporting will be very low everywhere.

In this country it may just get him off.. just like the guy that one passenger that beheaded the sleeping passenger on the Greyhound Bus. he was found not guilty for that exact same excuse.(schizophrenia - Def- A means to commit the perfect murder in Canada).

Greyhound's New Slogan... Where ya be-headed today?...

Hail of bullets? This is Canada...they arent allowed to have bullets there. They were taken away with their testicles.