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Subscribe to RSSA Ugandan cabinet minister accompanied by police raided a gay rights conference, claiming that one of the organizers had insulted him and demanded she be arrested, The Guardian reported on Wednesday.
The minster for ethics and integrity Simon Lokodo told activists that the gathering at a hotel in Entebbe on Tuesday was an "illegal assembly," the newspaper reported.
"You should not allow people to plan the destruction of your country. You cannot allow terrorists to organize to destroy your country," he told the newspaper.
Homosexuality remains taboo in Uganda, where Pentecostal clerics have made the fight against gay culture one of their core messages. Homosexuality is already illegal under Uganda's penal code.
Lokodo also tried to get prominent activist Kasha Jacqueline Nabagesera arrested but she fled before he could, the Guardian reported.
"I wanted to arrest a lady who was abusing me and calling me a liar," Lokodo told the newspaper.
Lokodo's move came days after the country's parliament tabled an anti-homosexuality bill. While references to the death penalty for some homosexual acts had been removed, it still contained provisions for life imprisonment for "aggravated homosexuality."
The anti-homosexuality bill was reintroduced last week by legislator David Bahati, who said when he first introduced the bill in 2009 that his goal was to protect Ugandan children from Western homosexuals who lure them with money and other promises.
It remained unclear if the bill will ever be voted on by parliamentarians. Analysts said it would be passed immediately and that it had not been considered only because it lacked the political blessing of Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, who said it undermines his foreign policy agenda.
The bill has been condemned by leaders in Europe and the U.S., including by President Barack Obama. European countries such as Sweden have threatened to cut aid to Uganda if the bill is passed.
"The knock-on effect of passing this bill would reach far beyond gay and lesbian people in Uganda, impeding the legitimate work of civil society, public health professionals, and community leaders," Michelle Kagari, the deputy program director for Africa at Amnesty International, said in a statement.
Msnbc.com staff and The Associated press contributed to this report.
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Waiting for the posters here stating that we need similar laws here in the US.
we need similar laws here in the US.
Happy, doofus?
You are a f*cking idiot Elvis Julep. Too bad your parents didn't abort.
Richard Ramirez it would appear that you are the ^* idiot that you claim Elvis Julep to be.
His post was a sarcastic response to Severedhead's message....or didn't you read that one?
Did you not see ElvisJ's "are you happy now dufus" retort before you jumped to the wrong conclusion ?
Judgemental and over-sensitive much?
Peace.... wisdom.... understanding
He's a liberal,those words have no meaning when it comes to those who CHOOSE to disagree with him. They are fair game for whatever "hate speech" he deems appropriate doncha' know?
Not a bad idea. This is a disease-spreading vice and one that practitioners can get out of with some assistence.
Any spokesmen connected with the Obama administration and the UN, however, will be of no assistance in helping stem its spread. My prayers go out to the Ugandans who have gone through much trouble in recent years. They can rise above it all though if they will stand together on their own.
Jeff Long, grow up and get a life. Please don't breed. Your stupidity doesn't need to be passed on.
When religion attacks......again.....
Maybe we can make laws to impose penal penalties on children when they sneeze on you, those filthy little disease spreaders. Maybe then we can have them work in non-union slave shops to break those destructive unions. Damn! Those child work laws! We need more de-regulation. You know... mama always said, stupid is as stupid does. Please practice castration/sterilization upon yourself and those of your intellectual capabilities. That alone will help monumentally in fixing our educational performance as a nation.
Well, Elvis, see Post #2. Call me a prophet.
The disease aspect - wonder if this is why it was included in Leviticus?
So I assume you mean that sex in general is a disease-spreading vice? Everybody should stop having sex and spend that time praying for the Ugandans? FYI - any kind of unprotected sex spreads disease, not just homosexual. And in fact in much of Africa and the world, heterosexual sex is the primary source of transmission for HIV/Aids, which is what I think you are suggesting.
Docw...the Bible also states that there nothing new under the sun.... so homosexuality is therefore nothing new...under the sun.
There was a time in history where homosexuality was not frowned upon and then the pedulum swung in the opposite direction where it was frowned upon, thus continued but not in the open. Now it is swinging in the opposite direction again where it is out in the open and not frowned upon i.e. not illegal, in some countries. In some countries it is still illegal to engage in homosexual sex, while in others it is not.
In those countries where it is illegal, there are 2 opposite movement going on at the same time...1 group (religious)that want to keep homosexual sex illegal and the 2nd group (like e.g. Glaad) who wants to make homosexual sex legal. The problem is that both groups are predominantly from the USA from the look of of things and so it appears that these 2 movements were not necessarily homegrown i.e. initiated /started within those countries by those countries citizens themselves to begin with.
The religious groups go to some of these countries with their teachings and preachings while the other groups may be giving some folks the encouragement to fight for their sexual 'rights' to live life out in the open. Like noted before homosexuality has been around forever, and it is not as if folks in these countries did not know it existed and did not know folks who were homosexuals. The difference was that these folks were not out in the open so everyone seem to sort of co-exist... until .... each group started pushing to get their way and for their own purpose...
Some of the religious groups with their access to funding and through their ministries etc also have a long reach to high up in those govts in some of these African countries. The big problem is that it is those countries citizens who are on the front line and it is those countries homosexuals who are the one getting locked up, killed or hurt not those folks from outside the African or Middle Eastern country.
Change of attitude and ideas take time.... pushing for said changes before folks are ready for same only brings problems, death and heartache for those doing the pushing on the ground/frontline.
It took a looooong time for folks to change their attitude towards homosexuals, rights etc and living openly in this country and still there are many folks here who do not agree with same sex marriage for example and we are a 21st century country.
Perhaps it is time for all to back off and let things settle down and then try to slowly/quietly change things from within.... having a gay pride parade is not exactly the way to go about changing things in any country where it is still against the law..... Perhaps it would be better to find a law that is already on that country's books that can be used to change the law there, like was done here in the USA....
Peace.... wisdom .....
Uganda, even Idi Amin was gay ! Why do you think he made the other guys call him " Da Da " or '' Big Daddy " ?
Idi Amin was a brutal sociopathic dictator with absolute powers due to intense fear. By the time he was overthrown he had tertiary syphilis, & fled to Saudi Arabia to avoid prosecution in Uganda. The Saudis had no choice but to take him in since he quickly converted to Islam. They could not, therefore, return him to the Ugandan authorities. But like so many parts of that continent, when on form of hegemony or dictatorship was eliminated, some other form of self focused oppression took its place. The reason the cabinet minister wanted the activist arrested was because he claimed she had insulted him, by calling him a liar. Insulted him?! That tells you how really free those counties are. The man is a liar, & panders to the superstitions & innate hatreds of the electorate; egged on by massive support from conservative Christians from this continent who fly over by the plane load to reinforce & augment the intense & irrational bigotry.
This might happen here if Santorum became POTUS, and GOP took both the House and Senate.
Jeff Long, you're a despicable human being. That, and you can't spell.
My prayers go out to individuals such as yourself who espouse hatred and ignorance rather than acceptance and understanding. Go read Niemoller and then see if we should give in to narrow minded views such as yours. Jesus hung around with 12 guys. Based on percentages at least one was not heterosexual. Oh, and I'm a conservative Republican.
Jesus hung with 12 guys? So he was a homo? How about Tom Brady...he hangs with 12+ guys? How about Peyton Manning? To try and twist things into a sinful way by using the example of our Lord is pathetic! Percentages on the disciples...so that definitely makes one gay? I'll bet I can show you a place where the total of 100% of 12 guys is gay...and another place where 100% of 12 guys is not gay! You're right...ignorance IS bliss!! (for you anyway!)
Ignoranceisbliss2, I TOTALLY agree w/what you said ...... But you CAN'T be that Conservative
with such a progressive and sensible view point on this matter. Oh, and I'm a liberal Democrate.
Uganda seems like a disgusting country. Apparently we live in a country where disgusting people hate others just for loving someone of the same sex. How f*cked up is that? Too many people use b.s. religion for greed, hate, terrorizing, and murder. So who are the real terrorists?
america should attack uganda and wipe that country off the face of the earth. nothing good ever came from that sorry country
Why punish the entire people of Uganda, when the fault lies with their Christian leaders? And may I remind you that it was American Christian leaders who initially engaged and encouraged the Ugandans government to be severely anti-gay.
What kind of crap are you talking? If homosexual sex was illegal in Sweden or Poland you wouldn't say that. What country has the Ugandan army invaded? Do they have nuclear weapons aimed as Israel or Vatican City or something? Uganda is a sovereign nation. Ignoring the growing problem if homosexuality (yes it IS a problem) and the recruitment efforts of gay activists groups is why countries like Thailand are overrun with homosexual pedophile tourists looking to abuse their children. If you want to live the homosexual lifestyle, don't do it in Uganda. It is a simple as that.
i guess i just don't understand why Gays have all of these "Rights" to be gay. Smoker's don't have any rights. I don't smoke, but smokers' have been hounded out of all public places. There are warnings on packs of cigarettes that say smoking WILL KILL YOU. Why isn't there signs on Gay people saying being gay is bad for your health and can lead to AIDS, HIV and hemmoriods? It is just another minority that demands everybody accept it and that's it!!! Why does anybody have to accept gay people if they don't want to? Evidently in Uganda it is against the law. So if you want to be gay, go some where that they love the gays. I am sure a bunch of smokers would just as soon live some place that they could smoke anywhere they want.
Well, you have a right to be straight. And how does someone being gay impact your health? And are you really ignorant enough to think that straights don't get AIDS, HIV, or "hemmoriods?"
If you don't like the idea of gays in the USA why don't you move to Uganda?
HIV/AIDS in Africa is primarily spread through heterosexual contact, not homosexual. You are looking at it from the US perspective, where much (but not all) of that disease is based in the gay community. In the rest of the world that is not the case.
Frogman, people don't "want" to be gay" any more than a person can "want" to be left-handed. You're just born with your sexual orientation. What Uganda is proposing is considered a Crime Against Humanity by every international court system that exists.
Why aren't there sign on heterosexual breeders saying: "Having sex can lead to HIV, AIDS and genital warts. Having children can lead to the extinction of the human race...and, at best, 18 years of child support."
Uganda can thank USA's Religious Terrorist Dr. (sic) Scott Lively for this situation. Some years ago, Lively went to Uganda and began this 'Death to Homosexuals' campaign in 700 Club style. He taught Pastor's of their churchs how to fearmonger and steal from the poor (to protect the children), walked them through taking that money, from people who have nothing, then buy their politicians to craft and pass a discriminatory law that affects a small percentage of their population and literally makes them targets for death. Since this religous terrorist has been operating in Uganda, the incidence of hate crimes, using homosexuality as the vehicle, has risen 500%. Lively is a murderer and terrorist and deserves to be hung himself. He is an abuser and hater of women and was arrested for fined for the following:
In 1991, Lively assaulted Catherine Stauffer, throwing her against a wall and dragging her across the floor of a Portland church, at an Oregon Citizens Alliance (OCA) event she had been trying to film.[15] Stauffer received a judgment of over $31,000 against Lively and the OCA in 1992.[16][17]
Lively's church, 'Abiding Truth Ministry,' is considered a hate group, same as Westboro, only far more dangerous. Let this false prophet know how you feel about him being a terrorist in the US and in Uganda. Here is their website, which is an oxymoron in itself:
defendthefamily.com
Call him at 951-834-5933
damn kill all the Ugandans they are barely above the stone age mental capacity yet some radical militant gays want to create a genocide because they have a different albeit neanderthal way of thinking.i'll have to keep an eye on some of my gay friends they may start killing people because they don't agree with their sexual preferance.the uganda's will round up and kill every gay real or imagined because thats just how they think and if you don't belive it go ask their neighbors in rawanda what happened ther because some where taller than others.best thing they can do is run.
Uganda let's start off talking about all the great things it has contributed to mankind like the.....uh.....oh yeah there was.....no.....how about.......sorry I got nothing.
Wait, is this post about religion or homosexuality....or both?
Looking at the above, that is quite a cross section of sad examples bread in the USA. So much hate and unintelligible BS.
I agree starting........above this one.
This Minister is a good man. I don't think the U.S. would or could pass this kind of law being that there are so many of "them" in high positions...
The minister is advocating genocide, IBB. A law like this would never pass here, because it would be a crime against humanity.
Gotta love the Christians going over to poor, HIV-ridden, sub-Saharan Africa and installing Shari'a law on the locals. I mean, Christians, wouldn't your time over there be better spent actually helping the poor folks out rather than telling them what they can and can't do (a proposed death penatly for homosexuals, really?).
Another good example to this is the Kenyan constitution...which includes a "right to life" for unborn fetuses. Because, of course that's what poor, starving, diseased violence ridden Kenya needs most...a Shari'a constitution provided by a bunch of meddling, foreign, white prudes that just want to show the natives how to be "civilized and Christian" through the use of their own government's force against them.
I don't condone the burning of any book, but I must say that I understand the urge to burn religious texts that manifests itself every few generations.
If the people don't like, they don't like it!
Finally another country that is standing up against gay rights instead of all the nonsense we have to put up with in this country over it. As much as people don't like Iran and their leaders they don't have any gay men or women in their country and it's about time we found out how they did it. It would end so many problems in the U.S. and we all wouldn't be talking about Penn State and Jerry Sandusky. The shame that killed Sonny Bono and the pressure that Cher must go through to hold her head up after Chastity became Chas, it would have never happen in Iran. I'm hoping with Uganda now on board this becomes a trend around the world.
Vicj ..... Are you really that STUPID to believe that there are NO Homosexuals in Iran ????? Really ????!!!!!! Seriously ????!!!!!!! Ya know there are MILLIONS of people in Iran.
Vic, people cheering for genocide are never looked well upon by history. Something you should consider.
Vicj. After reading your post, I am reminded that hate and evil is still alive and well in America. You would, no doubt, have been an avid supporter of Adolf Hitler and Nazi part policy had you been alive at the time.
I don't believe it was shame that killed Sonny Bono, unless he was ashamed of running head first into a tree while skiing.
Being an apologist for Iran is also curious. Iran is a country that allows for the execution of girls aged nine and older. No doubt you approve of this too?
a poor attempt at sarcasm, I think?
ANYONE who agrees w/a policy of Prosecution and/or Execution of a person based on their sexual preference is simply a hate filled piece of S#$%t. It never ceases to amaze me how people who claim to "Christian" can be SO EVIL and Inhuman. If the "Devil" does exist, then these people are working for him. I'm not a Theologian/Christian Historian or anything like that, but I do know that Jesus was NOT like this.
Uganda has been on the verge of committing crimes against humanity for three years now. If they end up going through with this extermination, it may only end with the deaths of thousands and the leaders of this impoverished nation put on trial at the International Criminal Courts. I fear the nation of Uganda cannot survive the sort of damage this would cause, and we would have yet another failed state to add to the ever-growing list.
Most of the world thinks homosexuality is NOT normal. Even in most of Western Europe, gay marriage is a very controversial issue. Too bad that in the US gay propaganda is winning.
Most of the world thinks democracy is NOT normal. Even in countries we have occupied, democracy is a very unpopular political ideology. To bad that in the US pro-democracy propoganda is winning.
Democracy is the institution that made it possible for people like you to voice their opinion without fear of persecution, even when that opinion is contrary to common sense.
good, get rid of them, before they spread like cancer..this gay of a thing is not our "Africa" culture.
I am wondering if it is right to discriminate people based on their sexuality and/or their skin color.
Thank goodness the Muslims are going to get rid of you all some day.
"Aggravated homosexuality" is hilarious, isn't it? Perhaps they also have things like "aggravated ideology" "aggravated opinion". However a few things are certain: aggravated stupidity, aggravated narrow mindedness, aggravated intolerance... That's for sure.
It looks like we have the perfect location for the next Rick Santorum rally - Uganda. Perhaps the entire Republican Convention can be moved there so that it is surrounded by sympathetic supporters.
WOW....
This story is almost as Newsworthy as Pinvilles 8th Grade Basketball Teams HUGE 11-7 UPSET over Jefferson City in South Dakota Middle School Basketball. Jimmy McDowell scored a season high 5 points for Pineville, and Bobby Hickston added 3 points..... But Billy Jenkins stole the show with his layup with 1:04 to go in the 4th Quarter to seal the win. Next up or Pineville.....?...?
A REMATCH OF LAST YEARS 10-6 LOSS ST.JUDE EPISCOPAL