As they explained in the article, general council resolutions cannot be vetoed. China voted against the measure, but it still lost.

Although I can't really disagree with much else that you're saying.

If the UN was smart..whatever they say should be reversal from what they really want..this way Russia and China will agree on what the UN said it wants... but LIED!

The United Nations Security Council veto is a big flaw in the rules and procedures because Russia and China can veto anything they disagree with and slow the good work of the United Nations. The Security Council single veto should be ended or the member nations should form a new body outside of the UN without the veto. Call it the "World Council of Nations" and leave the United Nations behind.

Mike277:

Inverse logic only works in computers. It doesn't work against idiots.

Almost laughing.

All of you just don't get it. In the Real World Majority Rules (with none of your Idealistic Academic "Rights" to make the Minority "equal").

With that observed harsh Reality said, now go research the Current "Sphere of Influence" of the Russian Federation and the Chinese versus the US and US Allies. And as far as their "Sphere of Influence" throughout the "Middle East" go research their direct support of Iran and Iran's use of the Islamic Jihadists Worldwide to increase their own "Sphere of Influence".

The really uninformed keep on believing that the Arab League of Nations as founded by Amin Al Husseini do not have their own agenda. And really pathetic most of you refuse to even do the research to figure out their motives (if most of you did you would be screaming for the US Politicians to do something about the Arab League of Nations (including honorary member Iran, invited 2010.).

Do not blame me, just letting all of you know what I have been observing since the 1980s.

Remember that Russia and China are dictatorships, and they will in all good consensus support other dictatorships. China especially has global intentions and want to spread their influence to support a as wide base as possible. Why do you think China spends so much money here in the US? So they can buy influence so they can use it when the time is right.

Totally agree with Russia and China ......''Russia had expressed concerns about the draft text, saying it feared the resolution would lead to the kind of military intervention and regime change seen in Libya after last year's council action intended to protect civilians from attacks by forces loyal to long-time leader Moammar Gadhafi.''.......... A no fly zone turned into bombing anything that moves in Libya,what gives Nato and the USA the right to overthrow anybody? Libya is a mess,the muslim brotherhood has taken over Egypt and Al Qaeda and the Muslim brotherhood are behind the innocent civilians that are carrying rpgs and assault rifles and bombing govt buildings in Syria!Just ask yourself how would that scenario play out in the USA if civilians were attacking the military and our own Federal govt.?

Besides China and Russia, who else sided with Syria?

China's economy is booming, America's is in the dumpster. Sever ties with China, and China will not loan America money to wage wars anymore. Ouchie.

You not American.

Krazy, why Obama and not the rest of the world "tell China something"?

China and Russia have backed themselves into a corner and Obama doesn't have to do a thing. The Arabs will supply the insurgency very heavily through Tuirkey and Assad will be beaten and eventually killed or he will face trial in Syria and be hanged or shot. After he is gone, Russia will have lost its last friend in the Middle East and China will loose a great deal of influence in the area. Calm down! The Arab League knows what it is doing and Obama knows what he is doing. Things are just fine.

Well, not FINE, no, but things could be much worse.

This is WAY better than Bush's plans for getting rid of nasty Middle Eastern dictators.

Just another Obama hater with nothing constructive to say.

I haven't heard condemnation coming from the mouths of Newt or Mitt either. What are we going to do? threaten China with a trade war? World condemnation is enough without Obama having to say anything. Even if he did make a public statement as you say he should, you and your band of haters would jump on it and claim he is attempting to ruin the economy or some other nonsense...

factspleasee - Krazy, why Obama and not the rest of the world "tell China something"?

Uh, because YOU hired him to LEAD not follow with his nose up "the rest of the world" butt.

Ray in Jax - I haven't heard condemnation coming from the mouths of Newt or Mitt either.

They are not the President of the United States of America either (thank God). Do not even attempt the Deflection of Blame (Responsibility) Game.

Ray in Jax - What are we going to do? threaten China with a trade war?

The US could start with the Removal of President Clinton's Most Favor Trade Nation Status for China, until the Chinese stop devaluing their Yuan (Currency).

As far as the "Middle East" reverse all the damages of President Obama's 2009 Improved Relations with Iran Policy; that resulted in (not your uninformed emotive opinions): 1. Iran's Backing of the Overthrows of US Allies President of Egypt by Muslim Brotherhood , President of Yemen by Al Quada Yemen backed by Iran, President Gaddaffi (President Obama's Executive Intelligence Agency (CIA) Prisoners at Gaddaffi's Prisons) by the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group backed by Iran., 2. Iran's Military Build up as purchased 21st Century Military Technology from the Chinese and Russian Federation versus US 1960 to 1990s Military., 3. Iran's Strategic Access to the Suez Canal (thru negotiations with the Muslim Brotherhood before the "Egyptian Revolution"). If Iran deploys Land Based Long Range Anti Ship Missile Batteries, etc. then too f**king bad, USN will have to take the long way around., 4. Iran's Pressure on Iraqis Government (Shiites Generations ago from Iran) to halt any negotiations for US to remain at Iraq., 5. US Loss of Iraq to Iran's Allies the Chinese and Russian Federation 2010, as seen in the Iraqis Oil Contracts to China and Russian Federation and US loss of this., 6. Pressure on US Ally Pakistanis Government to get the US out., 7. US Ally Saudi Arabia now surrounded by Allies of Iran., 8. US Politicians missed opportunity after the Iran Iraq Wars to sign Treaty to make the Straits of Hormuz an International Waterway, instead of the current "Territorial Waters" as controlled by Oman, U.A.E, and Iran., 7. US Loss of Strategic Mediterranean Ports at Egypt, Yemen, Libya, etc. to Iran., 8. As indicated by President Obama's backpeddling against the President Bush deployments of US Military ABMs to Europe, December 31, 2011 US Military ABMs deployed to Romania. As Europe is now in range of Iran's ICBMs and IRBMs., 9. 2012, Iran negotiating with South and Central American Governments to deploy Iranian IRBMs at their Nations to target US. Iran's direct support of Hamas Foreign Fighters and Hezbollah at these South and Central American Nations., 10. The Arab League of Nations (plus Iran since 2010), PLO (replaced by Hamas), Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic World's 1933 Alliance with Hitler, etc. as Founded by Amin Al Husseini and their stated Strategic Goals (in their Written Charters) against the Christians ("Crusaders"), Jews, Unbelievers., 11. There is a h3ll of a lot more that are nearly irreversable., and this will all be on Generation X and Generation Y to deal with, as most of us that have been "Dealing with" the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks (not your Academic Idealistic emotive nonsense opinions) since the 1980s will not have to in less than 4 months and get to go back on Retirement again as "Too Old" to ever be Recalled to Active Duty again (and again and again).

Almost forgot it has been the Strategic Goal of the USSR to get the US and US Allies out of their Backyard (Resources) of the "Middle East", Africa, Asia, etc.. The Chinese thru cooperation with the now Russian Federation has made this their Strategic Goal also. And both HAVE (past tense) accomplished most of this with the defeats of US Allies at the "Middle East", Africa, and Asia with the use of Iran as their "Proxy Fighter" and Iran's use of Worldwide Islamic Jihadists as their "Proxy Fighters". Based on current events it is predicted that by 2015 China will REPLACE the US as a "Super Power", with the US and US Allies becoming Fourth World Nations (like Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.) due to lack of Resources (especially the High Tech Minerals required by the US).

Before all of you collapse this post, start name calling, etc. based on your emotive opinions, just do the research.

And if you want to see just how wrong the US "Superiority Complex" really is, get out and live at the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks for a few decades. (Surviving and Experience counts more than all the Academic Idealistic crap. The original purpose of Education was to prepare you to survive long enough to gain Experience (experience as the main means of survival)).

A lot more then just a waste of space. Billions of dollars have been put into this so Called United Nations which has never ever nor will it be United. It is a Disgrace of Mankind. You think they care about folks like you and I or most anyone for that matter. Most only care about how many Humans they can impose their will upon and control their lives like cattle. It is amazing that a dictator can just shoot down folks in the streets as they wish and get away with it because of the World Leaders of the UN. Everyone should just demand we stop putting funds into this Organization of Cutthroats.

You need to think of the UN as an international conduit, not a decision making institution. What other organization may I ask, do you propose the Arab League could appeal too to secure international condemation of Assad. It is an important institution, not for what it can do, but what it can help nations say.

"We" are with russia and china? Speak for yourself.

WE, Americans, stood up to a tyrant government and founded a little country called the united states of america, formerly the colonies of britain. "We" aren't going to sell out our forefathers for tyrants.

RandomFox

What Stvevn100 means . We are taking a wait and see position this time. This is one of those times where doing nothing is the best coarse of action. Russia, China, and the U.S. do not want to provoke one another into a shooting war. As all have to much to loose and the use of nukes leaves no survivor's any where in the world.

I disagree that it is inevitably human to be inhumane to our fellow beings...

There have been societies in the past that have lived in harmony within their environment for millennia...it CAN be done...America is a giant socialogical experiment that is zooming right along...it is a steamroller through history.

The UN though should be looked at through the lens of it's mission.

DionysusOmega,

Fix your own heritage (house), Greece; before coming up with nonsense on Newsvine.

The United States of America needs to get the F**K out of the United Nations so that we (US Military) are no longer used as their United Nations B!tches. a. After WWII US Military sent to hold French Indochina (Vietnam) until the French could reoccupy their Colony., b. UN Korean "Conflict"., c. Vietnam (UN Sanctions, UN "Police Action", etc.)., d. UN Mission Somalia I and UN Mission Somalia II., e. UN Mission Iraq (Nation Building)., f. UN Mission Afghanistan (Nation Building)., etc..

I would remind you that the USA also has veto power in the UN and that we have also stood alone to protect a nation we wanted to shelter from the worlds wrath....Israel.

I vote for stable government. All governments are corrupt... the best you can hope for is a stable environment to live in.

Valid points all.
How bout Pakistan...supported, with billions of our treasure, yet hiding OBL for seven freakin yrs.
Hmmm.
Time to settle up.

George Wrigley - The Saudis are as bad as it gets when it comes to Shria Law.

Proof that you know nothing about the difference between the Sunnis and the Shiites.

DionysusOmega - How bout Pakistan...supported, with billions of our treasure, yet hiding OBL for seven freakin yrs.

Like I said before, DionysusOmega, Fix your own heritage (house), Greece; before coming up with nonsense on Newsvine.

Your post is proof you know nothing about the situation at Pakistan. As the Government of Pakistan can be completely pro US as a US Ally, with the People of Pakistan being Fundamentalist Islamic and supporting the Fundamentalist Islamic Pakistanis Taliban, Army of Islam Pakistan (not the Pakistanis Government Military), Al Quada Pakistan, Haqqani Network, Fundamentalist Islamic Believers within the Pakistanis Intelligence Agencies and Pakistanis Military, etc.. With Fundamentalist Islamic Iran directly supporting all of these Fundamentalist Islamic Believers and Islamic Jihadist Organizations at Pakistan.

Like I stated before all your Academic Idealistic nonsense that you read on the internet based on emotive nonsense opinions (Not Facts) written by non participants based on information from other non participants. GET OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD AND GET SOME EXPERIENCE.

Same with all of you saying "Dictator", "Tyrant", etc. that have NO idea what Really caused recent events Iraq, here (Afghanistan), Egypt, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Iran, Oman, Bahrain, Pakistan, etc..

Chris-2942136 - What is wrong with you people? The Syrian rebels are supported by Al Qaeda. Does America now support terrorism? This is crazy!

Rhetorical Question?

80% of the "Libyan Rebels" were Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc., that before the "Libyan Civil War" went to Libya to Overthrow the former US Ally Gaddaffi as a Collaborator to the Christians in accordance with the Holy Koran (Quran) "Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers Die a Horrible Murdering". These Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist Organizations were previously trained in Asymmetric Warfare by Fundamentalist Islamic Iran; as part of Asymmetric Warfare (Insurgency) is to get the population to fight for your Cause(s).

President Gaddaffi's Mistakes: 1. Allied with the US., 2. Collaborated with the Christians "Crusaders" by: a. Giving up Weapons of Mass Destruction to President Bush., b. Denoucing Islamic Jihadists to get Sanctions and Embargoes lifted for Libyan Oil shipments to the US European Allies "Crusaders" (and no the Islamic Believers have not forgiven their defeats)., c. Ordering his Libyan Military to go after the Islamic Jihadists years prior to the "Libyan Civil War"., d. Keeping the President's Own Executive Branch Intelligence Agency's (CIA) Islamic Jihadist Prisoners at his prisons (a priority to release them after the "Civil War" with embarrassing documents found). Didn't all of you wonder where some of the Guantanimo Prisoners went and why President Obama could keep saying close Guantanimo., e. The Big One that pissed off everyone, his Declared Nationalization 2010 of Libyan Oil, that would take away control of All Libyan Oil from the European Oil Corporations. The G Meeting at Europe (France) that was attended by SOS Clinton, prior to Military Actions at Libya as Lobbied by the European Oil Corporations to stop Gaddaffi's Nationalization., 3. His giving Libyan Citizens Human Rights as previously praised by the UN and UA (African Union), that made all the Non Libyan Citizens demand the same "Rights" and "Benefits" as Libyan Citizens as listed in his "Green Book". Since Libya imported many "Foreigners" to do the work that Libyan Citizens refused to do, they became the "Majority" over the Libyan Citizens (just like the over 23 Million Illegal Aliens at US, Shiites from Iran at Iraq., Kurdistanis at Southern Turkey, etc.)., 4. There is much more.

Result now there are 20,000 Shoulder Launched Anti Aircraft, SA-7, Missiles that were seized by Islamic Jihadist Organizations; believed that they will be used against US Commerical Airlines ever since the failures of Islamic Jihadists to blow up US Commerical Airlines (underware bomber, laser printer toner bombs, shoe bomber, etc.).

Prior to the start of the first Demonstrations at Libya, the Islamic Jihadist Organizations (listed above) were positioned to seize Gaddaffi's Military Bases and the 60 bunker Hight Razma facility on the eastern outskirts of Benghazi and a 35 bunker facility on the eastern outskirts of Ajdabiyah. It was NOT a coincidence that the Libyan "Civil War" started at Benghazi. These "bunkers" are the size of very large warehouses.

JUST DO THE RESEARCH.

Well they will call us both crazy now but I have felt what you are saying is true. I also fear that brave people with ideals of peace and freedom in the ME. Will give their lives to win freedom only to have it stolen by organised forces such as the muslim brotherhood. I do not see the people united in any form of strength or order or consolidated group that can possibly step into the leadership roll other than terrorist groups. I think many people will give their lives for one cause only to have the opposite of what they sacrificed for rise from the ashes. Once the hidden strength of the uprisings has control. There will be nothing the people can do because they defeated the government only with the force that will then betray them.

WILL IN PA-468982,

Since most people at the US are Graduates of the Failed US Education System (cognitive research skills and cognitive skills no longer taught), you are talking to a Wall. Previous Surveys and Polls indicate that most US Civilians cannot even find most of these Nations on a Map as well as having the attitude of "so what" these Nations are too far away to concern them.

Cause: President Obama's 2009 Improved Relations with Iran Policy allowed Fundamentalist Islamic Iran to do anything without US Interventions.

Effects: Fundamentalist Islamic Iran provides Iranian Military Advisers, Iranian Military Trainers, Iranian Military Equipment, Weapons purchased from the Chinese and Russian Federation, Funding from the Islamic Mandatory Tithes (Trillions USDs per year), etc. to the hundreds of thousands of Islamic Jihadists at the Main Islamic Jihadist Training Camp at the Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq (right next to Iran).

In 2010, US Ally Turkey attacks the Islamic Jihadist Training Camps at Southern Turkey, Northern Iraq (Autonomous Kurdistanis Region), Border of Syria, western Iran, believing that they are only going to encounter the Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK. My criticism of the US Ally Turkish Special Forces that we previously trained with a while back before deployment to here (Afghanistan) to conduct US Military Asymmetric Mountain Warfare, is that they did not do Special Reconnaissance before their attacks.

Results: The US Ally Turkey attacks (now almost a full on War, including Air Strikes, Tank Battalions, Artillery, Special Operations, etc.) caused many of the Islamic Jihadists to flee to Syria (Al Quada Syria), Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood), Yemen (Al Quada Yemen), Somalia (Al Sheebah), Pakistan (Al Quada Pakistan, Pakistanis Taliban, Army of Islam Pakistan, etc.), Libya (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group), here (Afghanistan)(Al Quada, Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban), Gaza (Army of Islam Gaza, Hamas Foreign Fighters), Palestine (Hamas Foreign Fighters, Hezbollah, many Islamic Jihadist Palestine Organizations, etc.) as the "Peace Flotillas", Saudi Arabia (Al Quada Saudi Arabia), Bahrain, Oman (Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims), Iraq (Al Quada Iraq, pressure on Iraqis Shiites to get US out, no negotiations, stops Iran from being surrounded), etc.. The insanity being that all of these Nations Established Government reported increased Islamic Jihadist Activities prior to any violence and the US Politicians ignored them. The worst being that in 2009 General McChystal (US Special Forces, Trained and Experienced in Asymmetric Warfare, Insurgency/Counter Insurgency Warfare) reported that Fundamentalist Islamic Iran was providing weapons, training, military equipment, funding, etc. to the Taliban, Al Quada, Hamas Foreign Fighters, etc. here (Afghanistan) based on captured Islamic Jihadists, weapons, munitions, etc. and received a Letter of Reprimand from President Obama as this was against President Obama's 2009 Improved Relations with Iran Policy.

The above is just part of the reason for the "Arab Spring", a misnomer, should have been "Islamic Jihadist Overthrow of US Allies" or "Increased Sphere of Influence for Fundamentalist Islamic Iran".

This threat is too real, as anyone with a printed paper map and a marker can figure this out as to what Fundamentalist Islamic Iran has gained (documented past tense) and will gain. This is why the US Military is now deployed to Jordan, remaining at Kuwait, etc.. There is also the US Deployments of three USN Aircraft Carrier Strike Groups. The Russian Federation deployment of their Admiral Kuznetsov Aircraft Carrier Battlegroup to their port of Tartus at Syria. Kind of Too Late, as Reactionary, not Pro Active; as once Asymmetric Warfare has a foothold Conventional Warfare Forces Historically lose.