Afghanistan's sorrow: Cruel winter claims lives of children

Afghanistan's coldest winter in years has claimed the lives of dozens of children. ITN's Emma Murphy visited one camp outside of Kabul.

 

KABUL – Afghanistan's coldest winter in years has claimed the lives of dozens of children.

Many of the young victims froze to death in makeshift camps full of families fleeing the fighting in Helmand Province.

Their desperate situation is made worse by aid agencies unable to get supplies to help them.

The Afghan government has recorded 41 deaths from freezing in three provinces, including Kabul, Ghor and Badakhshan, Health Ministry spokesman Ghulam Sakhi Kargar told The Associated Press. All but three or four of those deaths were children, he said.  

Twenty-four of the deaths were mostly in camps for families seeking safety from conflict.

ITN’s Emma Murphy visited one camp outside of Kabul.

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all this while top afghan politicians build luxury homes for themselves in nice warm climates.

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Reply#1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:59 PM EST

I blame Al Gore for getting in the way of more carbon emmisions.

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#1.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:13 PM EST
Comment author avatarDewey KerrExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Where is Allah ?

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#1.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:30 PM EST

Hmmm... There is not very much that "western civilized" countries can do to help a feudal/tribal society. Most of Afghanistan is living with the societal mores and values of 300 to 500 years ago, maybe longer. Years ago, the Soviet Union had 8 to 10 years of trying to modernize the Afghans - and failed - at a tremendous cost of lives and $$,$$$,$$$,$$$. Then, someone in the United States got a wild hair up his bewtocks, and thought we could do a much better job... So far, the results are just about the same.

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#1.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:49 PM EST

Very well put WB.

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#1.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:02 PM EST

Actually the Afghanistan War had one purpose and that was bringing Bin ladin to justice for 9/11. Mission accomplished and why we are still there is baffling. Who in the United States thought we could modernize this backwards civilization? It is just not possible. Time to leave and let the world's charities help out. The original war was a must do. "Let's Roll"

    #1.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:48 PM EST

    Afghanistanian men are mostly to blame for the suffering of their children. Sex to them is no different than going to the bathroom to relieve themselves. According to the UN 90% of women in Afghanistan suffer from domestic violence. It's like they live in an emotional void.

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    #1.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:03 PM EST

    Amen...LateKate...well stated. This entire article is mis-named, the winter has nothing to to do with it. It is the cruel customs of the muslims who denigrate women and children and give no heed to family, comfort, education, or all other things that build healthy and successful societies and families. Only another example of the cruel and hate filled culture of islam. Wake up world...stamp out this heinous culture called religion that believes only in hate, killing, and total subjugation of others.

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    #1.7 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:47 AM EST

    Where are the Islamic Red Crescents? Are helping these Afghan kids not a profitable business?

    Cruel winter was always there and there is nothing new.

    Now they can blame Amerika!

    Suppose Armerika was not there, they would be killing each other. It is business as usual.

    But the reporting would not have been there!

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    #1.8 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:07 AM EST

    Hey dewey Allah does not have a place because he is the creator not the created ( a place is a created thing) but he does have angels that record every deed that you do especially derogatory ones. Your going to remember what I told you one day.

      #1.9 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:50 AM EST

      Maybe if the people put as much effort into improving their country as they do protesting about a book things would improve. WB hit it dead on, you can't change the tribal mentality.

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      #1.10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:45 AM EST
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      The winter is just finishing what our war started. These people would be in their homes if we hadn't demolished them. Why are aid agencies responsible for cleaning up our contrived disaster? Shame on America for every single innocent death!

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      Reply#2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:48 PM EST

      Eona, what you say is simply a lie that is intended to upset folks. Shame on you.

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      #2.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:39 PM EST

      I beg to differ Owen, the American Military or government been doing this for centuries to others. OH wait my mistake in the school books when i grew up the Native Americans were treated well they just got in the way of manifest destiny. But we know now how they were really treated don't we , women and children barely fed unable to hunt for their own food , barely clothed totally displaced for the sake of minerals and land. BUT WE KNOW THIS DID NOT HAPPEN. Owen shame on you for believing everything the media and government tells you, you just a slave to the machine there bud.

      • 4 votes
      #2.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:08 PM EST

      Been there Garpo. Don't preach your misinformation about Afghanistan here. Shame on you for tying to get away with it.

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      #2.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:14 PM EST

      And it always comes back to the native Americans. I don't think any of it is a secret anymore, or has been for awhile. Next let's talk about the nazis. That's always popular on here.

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      #2.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:17 PM EST

      Well since you started it , the nazi's based there concentration camps on the American model of the reservation and the way they starved the Natives and put them in all these reservations all over so as not to be too big and uprise. So who did genocide 1st , this friggin lying government that who and i see Unbelievable is also a slave to the machine congrats .

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      #2.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:27 PM EST

      We should have left 8 years ago and got Osama still in Pakistan, but instead we wasted time money, and lives occupying a country that Russia fought for over 30 years. Look where Russia went and that was down the drain and I don't want America to do the same thing.

        #2.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:11 PM EST

        Unbelievable, well the thing about the Native Americans is the truth, ya know. A lot of U.S. citizens don't like to hear about what we did to the Natives-- seems it goes against their belief structure; that of the superior white man, Christian fortified, ethnocentric views, upstanding morals, etc. Ya know the saying, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

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        #2.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:26 PM EST

        Eona these are children they are talking about. Are you that heartless? I was deployed to Afghanistan. We didn't demolish houses. You see one video snippet on television and you think You know everything. If my patrol so much as scraped a mud fence or wall we paid the village elder on the spot for the damage. You probably didn't know this though. As long as we are there then we owe it to innocent civilians to try to help them just as a decent human beings should. They don't all hate Americans. I will say they are generally unhappy with us interrupting their daily lives. You have to understand that most of them never heard about what happened on 9-11. There aren't television sets in every home. Many of the fighters there are locals trying to make money. There is nothing there, no jobs, no industry, only subsistence farming. Poppy is mostly controlled by Taliban or the very few wealthier peoples. There is a difference between Afghan people and Taliban. Now that being said. You say the disaster is contrived? Forget 9-11? I know it's been a while. It is a war it's a horrible thing but there are going to be innocent casualties but that's how the enemy fights, they mingle with the innocents. Sometimes for propaganda, sometimes to escape. We are at war with one of the poorest countries on earth you can spin this many ways but in my opinion we shouldn't rest until all terrorist are eliminated and we should always be the bigger man so to speak and help those less fortunate, home and abroad. I know not everything can be fixed but we have to try.

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        #2.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:31 PM EST

        I agree with you!

        Now have mountains built of shame and starting shoving a mountain on Pakistan, Bahrain, Yemen, Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other Muslim places.

        For Pakistan one mountain may not be enough!

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        #2.10 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:11 AM EST

        The thing is, Joe and Gar, that the American Indians are completely off topic. Heat, kitchen, huh?

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        #2.11 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:25 PM EST

        Unbelievable, if that's the case then you should've just ignored the comment and not commented on it yourself. Once you put in your opinion then the rest of us put in ours.

          #2.12 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:15 PM EST
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          Eona,I agree,if we hadn't blown them up they would still have homes..We prob need to give away more money to the Afgan politicians.

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          Reply#3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:03 PM EST

          I believe the cruelty of life has been taking it's toll in Afghanistan for many centuries. It makes you wonder if cruelty is the future of humanity. The sick and cruel minds have far more power than the healthy or kind. We live on the knife edge of stability at the best of times. At the worst of times we die in war, neglect or famine. It is the doctrine of life and society that we accept that builds a better life or causes us to fail. Afghanistan is clearly failing if they cannot care for their children. What is the doctrine that they follow?

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          Reply#4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:16 PM EST

          Notice being good Muslims no men were listed among the casualties.

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          Reply#5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:17 PM EST

          This country has lived like this for centuries.Hell,before the war,very few of you intellects could even put a pin on a map where Afghanistan is located.Not much has changed!Most you still can't.Now you want to blame the US for all their hard times.It's all Obama's fault!

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          Reply#6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:25 PM EST

          Do Americans still care about cold starving women and children?

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          Reply#7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:36 PM EST

          Some still do I suppose owen, but with over 6 billion people on the planet and more everyday what is a few thousand men, women, and children dying of disease, starvation, and conflic each dayt? Not even a blip on a population chart.

          If you like you can donate every penny you own but the problems of the world won't go away, they will continue to get worse, the population will continue to rise, and people will continue to die but not nearly as fast as people are being born.

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          #7.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:48 PM EST

          They dont care about them in our own country

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          #7.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:34 PM EST

          We can't save everyone, impossible to do. Some people must die, some sooner than others, others longer than most, but all eventually. Do you really stay up at night wondering if Americans still care about cold starving women and children? Gosh I really hope not. Please do not own other people's choices. It will drive you batty.

          dc

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          #7.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:07 PM EST

          Nourish and protect your enemy and he will know you are a fool. He will grow strong and devise ways to destroy you.

            #7.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:08 PM EST
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            men,women, and children are dying in every country not just Afghanistan always have and always will there are not enough resources on the planet to care for all.

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            Reply#8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:57 PM EST

            Much of it is greed and not caring for fellow human beings. The earth actually is able to provide for all (even with the current population). It's not being used or managed in the way it should be. It would take a huge change in order for all of the world's woes to go away. The spirit of this world would also have to change in order to see good results. Critical times hard to deal with, will here.

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            Reply#9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:53 PM EST

            the root problem is money or greed either one .if we would not place value on things the world would be a better place but we wont or dont want to. you need money to live but if you look at it as a tribe in the amozon jungle if one person kills somthing the hole tribe gets some but we want our stuff . i have been reading about the one percent but it is all of us . you are not going to just give things up for nothing. you are not going to give complete strangers a home a car or any thing just because you have and they dont . you do have some that will but the human spieces is selfish its all about what i can get thats better then the jones not the other way around . it should be how much can i give . when we stop putting value on things we will be better for it but we wont do that because of MONEY!!!!!!!!!!

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            Reply#10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:16 PM EST
            ben aminDeleted

            Whenever I read an article on MSDNS, I know I have to read between the lines to determine the liberal agenda...

            This one sure points to blaming the US for these freezing children? After all the US occupation is causing these children to flee the conflict...

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            Reply#12 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:31 PM EST

            Your cynicism suits your rightie bent of mind...

              #12.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:34 PM EST

              It's our fault for going over and getting involved in a country that we shouldn't have gotten involved in. And, when I say the word country I use the term loosely. Afghanistan is more similiar to a group of feudal lords, ruled by tribes. For the most part whenver we go (with good intentions or not) into a country and spend a lot of money, and waste a lot of good U.S. lives, the local populations end up hating us anyways. So we spend money and wast lives for nothing. We haven't made the world a safer place. In many cases we seem to destabilize things worse than they were prior. You want to make the world safer get your house in order. Make sure the fanatics and nut cases don't get into the U.S. and let the rest of the world worry about their own problems. We can't afford to police the world.

                #12.2 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:24 PM EST
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                awwww...so sad ...

                Let Saudi Arabia send blankets and heaters to them.

                We can only send our best wishes ....

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                Reply#13 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:33 PM EST

                Porkistan has lots of rich people, pure Islamic green cap/white cap volunteers, and Sufi singers and dancers.

                If they all join hands, it should be a no big deal!

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                #13.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:19 AM EST
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                Of course a nice nuclear blast could provide heat and relief all at the same time. The only way to re-build this country is completely cleanse it.

                  Reply#14 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:59 PM EST

                  Best cost effective and least painful solution.

                  Add Porkistan to the list!

                    #14.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:23 AM EST
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                    It got cold in Afghanistan long before the Americans ever got there. Just because you had never heard the name Afghanistan more than once a year before this does not make it any more or less tragic. It is always a shame when a culture lets it's children suffer for whatever reason. If a country conducts itself in such a fashion as to allow this to happen then shame on them. Asking for help might be a good thing to do. I think that by asking for help would hurt their ego's and would make them look bad in their own eyes and in the eyes of the Taliban plus there are too many religious nuts from this country that would insist on stamping their brand on everything donated. Someone from this country that has never been anywhere near that part of the world. Well the easiest way to put it is. You say tomato and they say shoe.

                      Reply#15 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:44 PM EST

                      "Their desperate situation is made worse by aid agencies unable to get supplies to help them."

                      Whom do you blame here?

                      Islam, Allah and Quran should save them. If one can't help why bother?

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                      Reply#16 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:15 AM EST

                      Funny how they couldn't get supplies to them but they could get reporters to cover the story. We need to just leave all countries alone, plain and simple.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#17 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:41 AM EST

                      karzai is a joke. I'll bet he keeps warm.

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                      Reply#18 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:41 PM EST

                      Yes, AmeRican, he is a joke. But he is your joke.

                        #18.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:01 PM EST
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                        SUGGESTION:

                        Burn Qurans to keep warm

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                        Reply#19 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:57 PM EST

                        If you nourish and protect your enemy he will know you are a fool. He will grow strong and devise ways to destroy you.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#20 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:22 PM EST

                        @mndlessWndring:

                        your an arrogant person who doesn't understand human sympathy.

                          Reply#22 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:09 PM EST
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                          Maybe they should burn a few Korans for heat from Bagram. It shows how ruthless this society is that it cannot protect its most innocent. These babies did not start the wars. What kind of adults let this happen. Where is the out pouring of money and food from the oil rich Moslem countries? There is none!

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