Warnings from Syrian activists of a humanitarian catastrophe in Homs grew more desperate Thursday as government forces resumed shelling an opposition stronghold in the central city, where hundreds have died in a weekslong siege.
The toll mounted a day after two Western journalists were killed in shelling in Homs, and there more international calls for a cease-fire to allow assistance to reach areas hardest hit by the regime's crackdown on opponents.
U.N. investigators accused Assad's security apparatus of crimes against humanity as world outrage mounted over violence that has cost thousands of lives during an almost year-long popular uprising against his 11-year rule.
A "Friends of Syria" meeting in Tunis on Friday will call on Syrian forces to stop firing to give international aid groups access to areas worst hit by the violence which are running out of medicine and food, according to a draft declaration obtained by Reuters.
Russia, however, said Moscow and Beijing — staunch allies of President Assad — remained opposed to any foreign interference in Syria.
Across the country, activists reported between 16 and 40 people killed in attacks by security forces in rebellious areas that included the Hamacountryside in central Syria and the mountainous Jabal al-Zawiya region in the north. There has been no way to confirm independently the specific death tolls provided by the activists or by the Syrian government.
In London, diplomats from United States, Europe and Arab nations prepared to demand that Assad call a ceasefire and allow humanitarian aid in hard-hit areas.
Assad's tanks move in to Syrian rebel stronghold
The ultimatum, outlined by participants to the London talks, is likely to be presented Friday in Tunisia at a major international conference on the Syrian crisis. Further defiance by Assad could bring even tougher sanctions and isolation.
In a statement released Thursday, British Foreign Office Minister Alistair Burt said the U.N. Human Rights Council report on Syria is "damning."
“I am appalled by the evidence that young children are being targeted by snipers, and that security forces continue to arrest and torture wounded patients in State hospitals," Burt's statement read.
The minister added that those responsible for these "terrible atrocities" will be held accountable. British Prime Minister David Cameron said in a news conference in London the Syrian government was guilty of butchery and murder.
Homs has been under a fierce government attack for nearly three weeks. The International Committee for the Red Cross said it was trying to negotiate daily two-hour ceasefires in Homs to provide aid to civilians in violence-hit areas.
Homs-based activist Omar Shaker said intense barrages hit residential districts in Baba Amr again Thursday, but there was no immediate word on casualties. He said food, water and medical supplies are running dangerously low in Baba Amr.
"Every minute counts. People will soon start to collapse from lack of sleep and shortages in food," he said.
On Wednesday, shelling of Baba Amr killed American-born war correspondent Marie Colvin and French photographer Remi Ochlik.
They were among a group of journalists who had crossed into Syria illegally and were sharing accommodations with activists, raising speculation that government forces targeted the makeshift media center where they were staying. But opposition groups had previously described the shelling as indiscriminate.
At least two other Western journalists were wounded Wednesday — French reporter Edith Bouvier of Le Figaro and British photographer Paul Conroy of the Sunday Times. Bouvier, was shown in a video posted on YouTube Thursday pleading to be evacuated so she can have an operation. She said her leg is broken in two places.
Bouvier, propped up with pillows and covered in blankets, said field hospital doctors had treated her as well as they could but did not have the equipment to operate.
"I need to be operated on as soon as possible," she said.
Bouvier, whose thigh was tightly wrapped in bandages and seemed very calm, said her femur was shattered.
A Syrian Foreign Ministry spokesman offered condolences to the families of Colvin and Ochlik but rejected any responsibility for their deaths. The spokesman urged foreign journalists to respect Syrian laws and not to sneak into the country.
NYT: As others isolate Syria, Chavez ships fuel to it
Some Syrians held protests and vigils Wednesday night in several parts of Homs in commemoration of Colvin and Ochlik.
"Remi Ochlik, Marie Colvin, we will not forget you," read one banner held by protesters in the town of Qsour in Homs province.
The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said at least 16 people were killed in attacks by security forces in rebellious areas that included the Hama countryside in central Syria and the mountainous Jabal al-Zawiya region in the north. Another group, the Local Coordination Committees activist network, said the overall number of Syrians killed was 40. The reason for the differing tolls was not immediately clear.
In Geneva, a panel of U.N. human rights experts said Thursday that the United Nations has a secret list of top Syrian officials who could face investigation for crimes against humanity carried out by security forces in their crackdown against the anti-government uprising.
The U.N. experts indicated that the list goes as high as Assad.
Experts say the list is initially likely to be more of a deterrent against further abuses than a direct threat to the Assad regime. Syria isn't a member of the International Criminal Court so its jurisdiction doesn't apply there, and Russia would likely block any moves in the U.N. Security Council to refer the country to the Hague-based tribunal.
Thousands of Syrians have died in the violence since March and the panel, citing what it called a reliable source, said at least 500 children are among the dead.
British Foreign Secretary William Hague told BBC radio that military intervention was very unlikely, as "the consequences of any outside intervention are much harder to foresee."
A senior EU official said foreign ministers meeting in Brussels next week will add seven Syrian government ministers to those already sanctioned. Sanctions include asset freezes and visa bans for officials, commanders of the security forces and others considered responsible for human rights abuses.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of EU rules, said additional restrictions may be imposed on Syria's central bank, on imports of precious metals from the country, and on cargo flights.
The EU had already sanctioned more than 70 Syrians and 19 organizations and has banned imports of Syrian crude oil.
In Amman, Jordan, several dozen Syrians, mainly from Homs, staged a protest outside the U.S. Embassy asking for Western military intervention. "Almighty God, destroy Bashar," they chanted.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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Without intervention, this is how Muslims act. We're seeing the same thing in Iraq this week. And they'll just keep at it for as long as there are Muslims.
It is their governments at fault.
So what do you think their governments are, Jewish? They're Muslims too!
Dan, JB's point is that these Governments are corrupt and are refusing to let go of their power as the people are demanding them to. It has nothing to do with religion at all.
Look a little deeper and it has everything to do with religion, actually.
As we will see when, as it inevitably must, the Assad regime falls; and the Free Syria opposition that replaces it turns out to be every bit as brutal, as corrupt, as violent, as repressive, as the one it brought down (with, or--I sincerely hope--without American help). If not worse.
Chances are, whatever rulership replaces Assad...will be worse. I'd lay odds on it.
Why are we so suprised or outraged about Syrias behavior. Isnt Senetor McCain trying to get a bill passed that would allow our government to do the same thing if we stood up and rebelled against our government? And I doubt seriously that anybody would come running to our aid if it did happen. Let these countries settle their own disputes and take care of our own problems here at home, and there are plenty to take care of!!
I lived in Muslim countries for several years. Their moto is, if you're not us you must die!
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Four Dead in Ohio comes to mind. But as some one who has had a vacation in the area that we are talking about, why do we care? Activists? Is this supposed to be some special name the media puts on who or what??? Not to mention the people in the article that can not be named. What ever. They do not count unless you pay attention to them. Stop paying attention to these people, let them kill each other, and they will stop trying to kill us. The media dead are responsible for their own decisions. We better have our revolution pretty soon, or the Obomanation will have us in civil war instead of correction of our country.
Wayne,
Sorry to say McCain and Lavin's bill passed and was signed into law by President Obama on Dec 31st,2011 after the major news cycle so most people we not paying attention with all the new years parties. It is called the NDAA by most posters and stands for the National Defense Authorization Act or The Defense Spending Act of 2012. It is law that you can be held without due process already.
The west should take a better look at the pedigree of these so-called rebels. They are really just different sects of Islam who all want control for themselves. This is the reason they have not been able to unite into a single force to fight against Assad, they hate each other as much as they hate Assad. This is the problem with many of these Muslim sects, they each feel that they are the only valid form of Islam and anyone who does not go along with their particular views is an infidel to be killed. Having Assad leave will not make things in Syria any better. In fact, it could very well make things worse. Under Assad's rule, all of the different flavors of Islam were free to worship as they chose. I would not go so far as to say Assad is a secularist, but he is far more tolerant of other sects of Islam than many other rulers in the region. I do not support Assad or condone what he is doing in any way. All I am saying here is that to a degree I understand why he is doing it.
The different flavors of Islam and their underlying attitudes towards each other is the reason why real democracy will never work in the Middle East. The only way to unify a country where the people practice different flavors of Islam is through a strong hand. It takes a strong ruler with might and the willingness to use it in order to keep the varying sects in line and keep them from fighting with each other. Iraq is a prime example of this. Now that the US has left, the entire country has descended into sectarian violence with the different Islamic groups are attacking each other and fighting for power. It is impossible to get them to come to the table and work together in unison because each feels the other should not even exist and because of this they refuse to share power with each other. You see it is not just non-Muslims that these fanatics hat, it is anyone who does not adhere to their particular brand of Islam. I am not sure of the exact count, but I believe that there are something like 17 or 19 major different branches of Islam. Of course some are more violent and less tolerant than others, but each feels that they are the only true Muslims.
Syria's Assad is far better a leader than most of brutal, corrupt, feudal and bigoted Sunnis regimes led by the beastly rulers of Saudis, Kuwatis and others.
All the foreigners, especially the US, should leave these Muslim nations at the earliest. There will be turmoils with sectarian battles in most of the Muslim nations.
The rebellion against Assad is inspired by the Saudi Sunni beasts.
Assad should not agree to cease-fire. Instead he should bomb the Sunni rebellion areas starting from the "rights" activists.
Can anyone say: what "rights" mean in a Muslim nation?
I still do not see anybody from the Arab League sending troops to stop the slaughter. I am sure at least one Koran has been destroyed or slightly soiled. Where are the Muslims? Why aren't they out there putting on a show for the TV. Somebody needs to sift through some ashes and find a descrated Koran so they can scream, flop, rage and otherwise show that they have lost their minds over this insult to the Holy Koran. Maybe Karzi will demand that Assad be tried publicly for this heinous act. I know that slaughtering innocent civilians, women and children could be viewed as a harsh over reaction on the part of the Iranian Snipers and Red Guard soldiers serving in the Syrian Army, but how can they let the Holy Koran get soiled or a few bullet holes in it. I wonder of Obongo knows about this. Surely the concern for the safety of the Holy Koran takes precedence over mere helpless humans. I am all a-tingle with anticipation for the strongly worded message somebody will write for the president to read on the evening news.
Sir: For whatever happen in ME or Muslim nations, Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists have to certify.
Shiites mosques are blown up in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan and other places. Some of them during and after Friday prayers.
You see: as per Saudis and Israel, these Shiites mosques don't have Quran! So how can there be holes in Quran?
Why there are no desert dances: "Death to Sunnis", "Death to Saudis and Arab League" and so on?
Absolutely, positively, NO AID from America.
No help from America because there is no oil for them not like Iraq.
If this is the case: "Death to Amerika."
"In Amman, Jordan, several dozen Syrians, mainly from Homs, staged a protest outside the U.S. Embassy asking for Western military intervention."
Are we servants on hire of these people?
In Afghanistan, for Quran burning, it is "Death to Amerika."
"Activists demand ceasefire, aid access in Syria"
Great headline. Unfortunately, they are only activists and can't demand anything. And they will stay activists until they get the aid they want, at which time they will assume control. After that happens, the next great headline will be "New Syrian government institutes sharia law and demands western powers leave Syria to the Syrians". And the beat goes on .... and on .... and on.
Absolutely right. Thank you for presenting it so clearly.
You better stop the shooting or we'll be VERY angry, and tell you to stop the shooting again!
Brent--thanks for giving me a laugh!
Yes, I too found it kind of ironic: the activists "demand" of the gov't of Syria--wait a minute, isn't it the gov't of Syria that they're fighting against? -- to let aid workers in to save civilians' lives--that would be, the civilians that the Syrian government is trying to kill, right?
So they're saying, take a pause from killing these civilians so we can save them; then you can start up killing them again. Oh. This makes a lot of sense.
BINGO LIVIA BINGO!!!
We should stay the hell out of this. That means no humanitarian aid, no green cards, no guns, no bullets, no food, no bombs no loans, no bribes.... nothing. There is nothing we want or need in Syria. Assad has not been a friend to our country, and the radical Muslims seeking his overthrow have shown to be our enemy.
But if you must do something, stir the pot a little and let them continue to stew in their own juices.
Are these not the same syrians that were dancing in the streets when 9-11 happened?
Actually that dancing happened in Palestinian refuge camps. The craziest reaction to 911 was from so called "Christians" right in the U.S. (comments that actual Christians found despicable) :
Following the attacks, on the Christian television program The 700 Club, television evangelist Jerry Falwell called the event a punishment from God and laid the blame on "paganists", "abortionists", "feminists" and "gays and lesbians", claiming that they "helped this happen". Host Pat Robertson concurred with the statements. Both evangelists came under attack from President George W. Bush for their statements, Falwell subsequently apologized.
Most Muslim political and religious leaders condemned the attacks. The leaders vehemently denouncing the attacks included the Presidents of Egypt, Jordan, the Palestinian Authority, Libya, Syria, Iran and Pakistan. The sole exception was Iraq.
Bill at least pretend to be human.
Yes Bill stop speaking the truth and arguing with the always right BLEEDING HEART, IDEALIST, NOTHING BAD SHOULD EVER HAPPEN TO ANYONE, GODLESS LIBERALS!! You should be ashamed of yourself Bill!
Wayne, those that have no hand in what is going on in Syria should not be expected to die for the actions of their leader by the rest of the world. Part of being human is having empathy for all of humanity. Bill shows no empathy in his wishes to "stir the pot" and allow more civilians to be killed in the renewed fighting or die because we stopped sending medical aid that could have easily saved them.
Between civilized people cease fires have always been used so people can take care of thier wounded, dead and civilians under stress. The other day I watched a Syrian baby die in his parents arms from shrapnel. Show some humanity and call a cease fire so the children, elderly and women can get out of the war zone. The current Syrian leadership does not seem to be interested in humanity but only desperatly hanging on to power. It's sick.
Were you there in person?
Go to Dc, start shooting at the government, see how long it takes Obama to have troops shooting at you..
People get killed in wars, if you don't want to put your fanny on the line, don't start wars.
The government pleaded with the civilians in Baba Amro in Homs to evacuate the area within 48 hours , so that they could deal witht he armed extremists on their own , but a number of families actually stayed on purpose , in support of the gangsters , who they deem as "religious saviors . Some people did not even try to get their children out of the area of conflict to protect them . And FYI , those armed gangs actually have RBJ bombs which they use on supporters' homes and government centers , as well as soldiers and police . They're being armed by several anti-regime parties across borders , that's including weapon illegal smuggling from turkey , lebanon , jordan and Iraq . What peaceful protestors , for crying out loud ???"
and what human support ? you really think those people want a cease -fire , for civilian aid" ? you're right, i guess they do look very concerned about the "citizens", on whom they have imposed high taxes btw, and evacuated from their homes ïn support of the revolution"!!!
Pleaseeee . they want a cease fire because they're apparently losing the battle , as far as I can tell !
A good idea. Clear the civilians out and let the syrians and rebels fight it out without the complication of civilians being present - which is always the case in city fighting.
Not happening, the rebels know they would be toast in an hour, they are doing it deliberately.
That is what Hamas does in Gaza.
The article states an "American officer" who ignorantly burned the Koran. NATO has promised a trial. What article of the UCMJ will the 'ignorant' American officer be charged under? Was there a standing order? Was the officer acting in the line of duty? BTW, President Karzai, did you mean to say the American officer was uninformed about the proper handling of the Muslim holy book. Seems ignorance implies a bit more than being uninformed about a cultural/religious sensitivity.
...no world interest in syria? no oil!
My objective is to dispel the tide of media lies and government propaganda, which presents the events in Syria as a "peaceful protest movement".The "protests" did not emanate from internal political cleavages as described by the mainstream media. From the very outset, they were the result of a covert US-NATO intelligence operation geared towards triggering social chaos, with a view to eventually discrediting the
Syrian government of Bashar Al Assad and destabilizing Syria as a Nation State.
Since the middle of March 2011, Islamist armed groups--covertly supported by Western and Israeli intelligence-- have conducted terrorist attacks directed against government buildings including acts of
arson. Amply documented, trained gunmen and snipers including mercenaries have targeted the police, armed forces as well as innocent civilians. There is ample evidence, as outlined in the Arab League Observer Mission report, that these armed groups of mercenaries are responsible for killing civilians.it is important to underscore the fact that these terrorist acts --including the indiscriminate killing of men and women and children-- are
part of a US-NATO-Israeli initiative, which consists is supporting,
training and financing "an armed entity" operating inside Syria. The evidence confirms that foreign intelligence
operatives, according to reports, have integrated rebel ranks: "As the unrest and killings escalate in the troubled Arab state, agents from MI6 and the CIA are already in Syria assessing the
situation, a security official has revealed. Special forces are also
talking to Syrian dissident soldiers. They want to know about weapons and
communications kit rebel forces will need if the Government decides to help. MI6 and the CIA are in Syria to infiltrate and get at the truth,” said the well-placed source. “We have SAS and SBS not far away who want to know what is happening and are finding out what kit dissident soldiers need." " Syria will be
bloodiest yet, Daily Star)The Free Syrian Army (FSA) is a creation of the US and NATO.
The objective of this armed insurrection is to trigger the response of the
police and armed forces, including the deployment of tanks and armored vehicles
with a view to eventually justifying a military intervention, under NATO's "responsibility to protect" mandate. A NATO-led intervention is on the drawing board. It was drafted prior to the onset of the protest movement in March 2011. According to military and intelligence sources, NATO, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have been discussing "the form this intervention would take".
Thanks for your shared awareness as it seems very scarce in the Western Propaganda and media lies covering up the link between The Obama administration-al-Qaeda-and the MEK connection.
British puppet President Barack Obama has entered into an alliance with two of the worlds leading terrorist organizations—al-Qaeda and the Mujahideen e-Khalq (MEK)—in his zeal to overthrow the present governments in Syria and Iran. The Obama-al-Qaeda marriage of convenience is particularly deep and it centers on the drive to overthrow the government of Bashar Assad in Damascus, through an armed opposition. U.S. intelligence agencies are aware that the so-called Free Syrian Army (FSA) has no actual military capabilities inside Syria, and consists largely of a group of defectors from the Syrian Army who are safe-housed on military bases inside Turkey. All of the significant military actions targeted at the Syrian government have been carried out by al-Qaeda terrorists, who have infiltrated the country from Iraq. The suicide bombings in Damascus and Aleppo, the assassinations of Syrian government and military officials, and the sabotage of pipelines and other infrastructure have all been carried out by al-Qaeda. Despite widespread evidence in the hands of U.S. intelligence agencies, President Obama continues to join hands with the new al-Qaeda head, Ayman al-Zawaheri, in calling for the violent removal of President Assad from power.
The idea that the President of the United States is so blatantly in bed with the terrorists who carried out the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001 should be sufficient grounds for his immediate removal from office, under the impeachment provisions of the U.S. Constitution or Section 4 of the Twenty-fifth Amendment. Last year, following the U.S. Navy SEAL Team killing of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin-Laden, President Obama did cartwheels to claim credit for the act. Now, he is allied with the very same 9/11 perpetrators in pushing for a war in the Persian Gulf that will rapidly expand into a global thermonuclear confrontation with Russia and China. The British Role
The British Role
As well-documented in Executive Intelligence Review, the al-Qaeda attacks of 9/11 were carried out with the full support of the Anglo-Saudi Al Yamamah apparatus. Under the al-Yamamah oil-for-arms deal, launched in 1985 and continued through to the present, British intelligence and the Saudis created a string of offshore covert operations funds, which directly financed the 9/11 attacks. Al-Yamamah funds, in excess of $2 billion, were funneled to Saudi Prince Bandar bin-Sultan, and at least $50,000 of those funds went to the San Diego-based team of 9/11 hijackers. A Joint Congressional Select Committee, probing the 9/11 attacks, established evidence of the Bandar-al-Qaeda funding, but the 28-page chapter detailing this evidence was suppressed by the George W. Bush White House. At the start of his administration, President Obama promised family members of the 9/11 victims that he would release the 28 pages, but he never kept his promise, and moved to further suppress the evidence of al-Yamamah angle on the attacks, thus protecting his British masters along with the Saudi Royals.
To this day, former Senator Bob Graham (D-Fla.), who co-chaired the Congressional probe, insists that the cover-up of the Saudi Monarchy's complicity in the attacks must be exposed publicly.
President Obama's embrace of the 9/11 terrorists, after the fact, constitutes a scandal of enormous proportions for this Administration, and underscores further the hypocrisy of Obamas efforts to exploit the bin-Laden assassination, while he colludes with the remnants of al-Qaeda.
The same is true of the President's collusion with the Mujahideen e-Khalq, an Iranian terrorist group that has been on the U.S. State Departments list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations since its inception in 1997. MEK assassinated a number of U.S. military personnel in Iran in the 1970s, actively participated in the 1979 Iranian Revolution, and then fled to Iraq and allied with Saddam Hussein, after they were purged from the Islamic Republic leadership. In recent weeks, MEK has been linked to the assassinations of Iranian scientists. This week, the Bangkok Post revealed that Thai authorities believe that MEK terrorists were behind foiled attempts to attack Israeli officials. Those attacks were loudly blamed on the Iranian government, and fed the drive to launch military action against Iran.
While the Obama Administration has attempted to keep a distance from the assassinations and bombings and other acts of sabotage inside Iran over the past two years, MEK has been protected by U.S. military forces at Camp Ashraf inside Iraq, ever since the U.S. invasion of that country in March 2003. Citations from FEB. 22, 2012 (EIRNS) The Obama administration-al-Qaeda-and the MEK connection
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As much as I don't want to believe it, I think you are right. If you get the radical Arabs to turn on their own government you marginalize that countries ability to fight Israel. And if Israel is serious about making a strike against Iran, this would be a card well played.
It is truly a paradox that the countries least fit to dictate principles of human rights, do so largely unhindered on the world stage. Without hesitation Hillary Clinton proclaimed, “What happened at the United Nations was a travesty” referring to the Sino-Russian veto. She then called for the formation of an international alliance between the war-profiteering elite of the West and absolutist Wahhabi Persian Gulf monarchies - amusingly titled, the Friends of Syria. International calls to abstain from violence have done little to influence the Gulf Cooperation Council and their brutal crackdown against Shiites in Bahrain. Incredibly, Saudi Arabia has entered the dialogue on human rights and democracy promotion – perhaps the world’s most defining feudalistic theocracy, a nation that prohibits political parties and national elections and executes those who apostatize Islam.
One way or another, a day of reckoning is near!
BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BA
ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH..SAVAGES SAVAGES SAVAGES ...MAY THE REPORTERS REST IN PEACE.
They died doing what they loved ? really ? was this worth it...i would rather not know whats going on in such great detail...maybe they would be alive. They shouldn't have still been there...sorry !
Iran, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan...ALLOW THEM TO KILL EACH-OTHER...ITS THE ONLY WAY TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY KIND OF WORLD PEACE...geeeez dont forget to through Israel into the mix too, they are a big part of the problem...but the USA alwys covers there ass, thanks to huge political contibutions by big business......hmmmmmm
its sad but true ! these people are un-fixable, ...just savages
Stevo, I probably shouldn't bother responding to you, as you're clearly irrational (on top of having only the weakest grasp on grammar and no clue how to spell). But please: don't lump Israel in with the Islamic savages. And as for this myth that "the USA always covers their asses"--in fact the opposite is true, especially with the current administration: the most anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, pro-Islamic one ever to inhabit the White House (and hopefully, not for much longer).
I totally agreed,Israel is not just real cause of the problems in the Medeast since 1948 also for us here in America, financially Morley and politically!
I wonder how the US govt would respond to a group of "rebels" that tried to violently overthrow Wash D.C.? I'm sure the words treason and criminal would be used instead of "activist" or "rebel".
The scary part is that there are a lot of the lunatic fringe here in America that would love to do that. True they are extreme right wing wack jobs, but there seem to be a bunch of them around.
What do you suggest be done about these "extreme right wing whack jobs?"
What do you suggest be done about these "extreme left wing whack jobs?"
Due to the passage of the NDAA you would just disappear without due process. Read it for yourself and ask yourself why McCain and Lavine and President Obama all participated together to get it passed before the new year?
the rebelds backing for mercenaries, traitor soilders, arms and money from the western countries and spoil for them (Add ONU, NATO, Israel, US, etc.) star the troubles, now overpower for the governmente SYRIO they plain victims, heroes and more sheet for the media control for foreign countries, they prresure for stop the government figth, meanwhile they reagroup, reabasted in food, arms, spionage, etc. they call themselfs "friends of syria" what Syria ? the rebelds or the governmet and his citizens supporters ? infiltration destroy the system of Syria will be made Iran more vulnerable to the western incursion and feel safe to the israely interest, is is no for oil, just destruccion of a country and control his people..
Once again, not our problem. We are NOT the @!$%#ing world police. Second time I have had to say that today. Let them kill each other and in time it will end. We have our own problems.
excellent! good for Assad, kill all the rebels. Shoot, gas, stab, incinerate, blow up, everone of them. population thinning. more crap from iran, exporting destablizing the gulf countries. and it appears that ASSAD KNOWS WHATS UP.
Please let the activists go over there like they want to! Let them stay there; their final resting places. I never much liked activists and still don't. Maybe because they are all left wing radical nut jobs that think they can save the world. Say hello to President Assad for us!
Matt, activists are the only reason we enjoy our freedoms today.
Matt, the YELLOW ELEPHANTS wants the US to be involved, yet they won't charter a jet, take their guns and religious material and go over there to help the rebels. Every wonder why that is, they rejoice when there is war, and they can keep their asses in front of the moniter and their hands on the keyboards?
As part of the YELLOW ELEPHANTS Matt, when are you leaving? Let us know, so we can cheer you guys on.
With out the Elephants slavery would still be practiced in the United States. Remember President Lincoln?
It was the Southern Democrats that tried to make slavery the national law that created the climate for Civil War.
We need each other to keep each other honest SallyAnn.
How about that NDAA thing President Obama signed taking our right to due process away? That needs attention by both parities as McCain and Lavin sponsored it. The more you know the more you wonder.
Without the Elephants slavery would still be practiced in the United States. Remember President Lincoln?
It was the Southern Democrats that tried to make slavery the national law that created the climate for Civil War.
We need each other to keep each other honest SallyAnn.
How about that NDAA thing President Obama signed taking our right to due process away? That needs attention by both parities as McCain and Lavin sponsored it. The more you know the more you wonder.
Notsosure,
The Southern Dems are now the ancestors of the Southern Republicans. Lincoln would have more in common with the Democratic party of Modern times then the Republican party. Just like Regan would be a more left learning Republican compared to any of the current Presidential hopefuls/Congress members.
...Well, this is good news. Now that the `activists demand ceasefire', President Assad can have a bit of vacation time from all these pesky disturbances.
If you want the bullies to listen to you best be carrying the Big Stick and be willing to use it. No use shooting off your mouth unless you intend to back up what you say. Shows the real weakness in this administration and how fast they will fold if they have to put there money where their mouth is. I can understand not wanting to commit to another conflict. This situation just goes to show that if we are to survive in today's world we still need a three ocean Navy and to be able to fight in two theaters of war. Obama and his administration will leave us without adequate means to defend ourselves and ensure our capitulation in any future engagement. It amazes me what some politicians will do for a vote.
Your name says it all, another frigging arm chair General. What we need is one hell of a strong defense military, that can protect not only are borders and coast lines, but still the the power to destroy any country that tries to attack us.
The time for us being the world cops is over. For one, we can't afford it, 2nd, our ground troops are worn out, and are mentaly worn out from the continues tours of duty they have been doing. 3rd, too many a holes like you that won't gather up your think alike buddies, grab your guns, your religious papers, charter a jet and go help them people.
It blow my mind that we spend so much time and money were people dont want us and turn our backs were some missed up gov. is killing their on kids old people .If you listen to our men who want to be presidant and the say with them we will have hope please I must be getting old but i have herd this @!$%# for a long time .To me hope would be I live in a world were you dont set and watch kids and old folks get killed just because russia thinks diff. Hitler killed so many of it on people and to this day some say it didnt happen will they r killing the inicentit need to stop for one we only hear just from the the brave people who get info out what about the rest . I think force the monster gov . to stop killing the kids the want to fight give them a taste of what our boys can do when they have amission like stop killing kid and fight us big bro we need a fight we can win and stop policing somewere the people still live like it was 1000 yrs ago these people r modern people they have home schools hospitles but not for long .God please help these people that want our help.
And how is this different than Libya??? OIL!! If we are to hold ourselves out there are the supporters and defenders of the beacon of democracy, we can not sit by and watch what is going on in Syria. We must act. The Arab League is for action. It's the Russians and Chinese that are afraid because their peope are ready to revolt also. Put together a coalition and stamp out this dictatorship.
Why do you think Russia is involved? Because they have nothing better to do than arm the Syrians? Because killing Syrian civilians is great PR? Have you notice the price of gas lately? Russia the, second largest producer of oil, is getting rich. They can't let the uprising in Syria lead to the overthrow of President Assad. If the people of Iran, who were part of the Green Revolution, see success by the Syrian rebels they will be embolden to overthrow Ahmadinejad and the Islamic radicals in their government. The young people of Iran are educated and would support a moderate democratic government. The only way stability can occur in the Middle East is if Iran is kept from getting a nuclear weapon and overthowing Ahmadinejad is the best way to do this. Last thing Russia wants is stability in the Middle East. Stability will lower the price of oil. What is going on is Syria has everything to do with American interest. Anything the US can do to keep Iran from getting an atomic bomb will save American lives in the long run.
I'm all about moving forward and especially forgiveness... Must admit one is not able to read any other persons mind and.. i'm for sure no ones judge.. However my question is.. is there anyone else out there that believes the same old bull that happened with Iraq is in the mix again... Our people are dead.. and the same old crocodile tears have begun... Oh we will remember your people we killed... We are so sorry... I do so love lolly pops.. when i was younger.. we simply called them "suckers"... Because i remember the same man that was so glad to see us in Iraq.. He even congratulated us.. on a job well done... And yes one kept watching and.... was able to see that same man curse the USA and tell us to get out of his country... Hmmmm..... One does still love lolly pops... but would not want to be one... Remember a couple statements we all know well.. The better one is: WALK SOFTLY AND CARRY A BIG STICK.. and know I like chicken and want one in my pot.. second good ole Ben wanted our Country bird to be a turkey... We are eagles (bald) and must remember eagles were almost extinct.. thing is through no fault of their own... Most we go around in circles... and pray remember we are eagles not suckers... I'm gonna watch and pray for godly wisdom for we the people and leaders of our great United states of America to make good sound right decisions/choices..;o)..njg<
wtf? hey gleam of hope, you still comin down from whitney houstons grammy party? like joe dirt said, you shouldnt drink the bong water!
Bring our troops home and let the dirty bastards over there in that @!$%# hole kill each other off. Really pisses me off when I see these young people coming back from over there with arms and legs missing. I don't think all the people over there are worth one of our own. The only thing we should be sending over there are big bombs.