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Subscribe to RSSThe mysterious death in Africa of a reality TV show producer is turning the spotlight on the very real dangers of producing reality shows in remote locations around the world. NBC's Michelle Kosinski reports.
KAMPALA, Uganda -- An American television producer found dead on a hotel balcony in Uganda last week died after taking contaminated cocaine, police and a private investigator said on Saturday.
An official toxicology report confirmed the narcotic was in Jeff Rice's blood, dispelling initial suspicions the father of two known for his work on the U.S. show "The Amazing Race" had been poisoned by attackers.
Rice, who was found slumped over a table bleeding through the nose and mouth, died of asphyxiation, a post mortem showed. Drug users who fall unconscious risk inhaling vomit.
"Rice ... used cocaine which had lethal additives and that's what killed him," Uganda police spokesperson Asuman Mugenyi told Reuters.
Brad Nathanson, a private investigator and friend of Rice, said he had been shown the toxicology report by police and there was no evidence of foul play in Rice's death.
"In fact it was as a result of buying bad drugs, cocaine to be specific ... it was a bad concoction," Nathanson told reporters.
"I have read the toxicology report ... it shows that there were small traces of cocaine in their blood and urine," he said, adding he had traveled to Uganda as a friend of the Rice family following rumors he had been poisoned, and not for payment.
Rice's assistant, identified as Kathryne Fuller, was found unconscious when Rice's body was discovered Feb. 18 at the Serena hotel in the capital, Kampala. She is now reported to be conscious but paralyzed down the right side of her body.
Early on, there had been speculation that the two had been poisoned, then that they might have been forced to consume the drugs, because of the high amount of cocaine in Rice's stomach. NBC News contributor Clint van Zandt said on the "TODAY Show" on Saturday that it seemed unlikely that Rice would have willingly taken that amount of cocaine.
If Rice and Fuller were believed to have voluntarily consumed the drugs, Fuller could be prosecuted under Uganda's drug laws.
Ugandan police said on Saturday they had arrested a man who confessed selling drugs to the pair who had been in the east African country working on a documentary.
Fuller's father said he was "disappointed, sad" but would support his daughter, a South African.
"We all do stupid things in life. Unfortunately this is a large mistake but we can't exactly crucify her," Stewart Fuller said.
Fuller's family hopes to move her to South Africa for treatment.
Msnbc.com staff contributed to this report from Reuters.
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Looks like he went on a cocaine frenzy!
Still no sympathy for those who die from drugs...
Wow, I'm so happy this is what people do with their success. Apparently, not taking drugs and living like an a-hole isn't worth any money.
People are weird...the more popular you are...the more fake and weird you usually are. Glad I am not a "success."
So last week the story was that these great people were shaken down by thugs, but refused to play their games so they were poisoned. Now we find out they were snorting cocaine and got some bad stuff. Wow....
@ChrisWanker I know right, ill go as far as to say no sympathy for anyone using any medicine. /sarcasm.
People use drugs to numb their pain. There is an underlying condition that needs to be dealt with. But the real problem, is the war on drugs. If this person had access to quality/cleaner drugs, there is the possibility that he could have overdosed, but with this he was guaranteed to die. It's easier for a high school student to get drugs than alcohol. END THE WAR ON DRUGS!
The time is long past when any rational person could refer to cocaine as a harmless, recreational drug. Still young, sophisticated people continue to snort, shoot or smoke it, or its derivatives.
It is a tribute to humanity's capacity for irrational behavior.
To be fair it wasn't the coke that did him in. Whoever cut it probably put something in it that they shouldn't have.
To be "fair": If the druggie hadn't been using, he'd be alive today.
Hey I'm just stating the facts. People are gonna use no matter what. If we allowed access to a pure, standardized form of these drugs then people like this would most likely still be alive.
Smart people aren't "gonna use no matter what".
As my teenage daughter noted, "Why would anyone buy drugs from people who probably don't have a high school education?" My sympathyies to the families and I hope he is at peace.
Decades ago, I'd been down that road; a little here and there on the weekends, and it seemed everything was so much better, more intense. The little got to be more and more, and after a year no more fun, almost always 'hunting' for more and sold most I had. It took an arrest to get me straight, and even then I still wanted it for years.
Some I knew weren't so lucky and aren't here any more. I can't be unsympathetic; all have their opinions of drugs and those that use but I know first hand how addicition can take over... condolonces to his family, and hopes for recovery to her and hers.
Bad cocaine, I disagree. Bad thinking, bad judgement, etc. That is what killed him.
Then again, maybe you are a success.
There is definitely something strange going on here.
Nobody swallows a large amount of cocaine unless they are forced to do so.
Swallowing a large amount of cocaine will kill you. Everyone knows this.
I say dig deeper.
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My bet, look for strychnine in that coke. Strychnine is still utilized by ranchers in the third world to control the dingo population.
The drug war causes ten times more problems than it cures!
You people that dont understand the entire cost of the drug war are uninformed simpletons blinded by 40 years of gov't propaganda. Now that DEA , LEO's, FBI, local and federal courts, lawyers, prisons, the list goes on of the people that PROFIT off the drug war.
People will use drugs regardless; in fact making them illegal actually PROMOTES drug use in kids by making it COOL ---007 fun to deal them at week end parties--- it is actually this cool factor that makes teen guys get into drugs. They can make money and be in demand and be the party central 007 PLAYER. Get the girls too, and make enough cash to pay for your cut and flash cash at the ladies.
More kids smoke weed than cigarettes, this is PROOF that regulation and shunning use with propaganda works better than the drug war.
Lets not even discuss the drug cartels that profit from the black market.
Portugal is a success proving legalization works BETTER!
I dont condone drug use.
The massive amount of cash saved by emptying the courts and prisons from jailing nonviolent criminals along with the profits and taxes from it can be used to SHUN USE with what works better than anything else in AMERICA ................TV MARKETING PROPAGANDA!!! This actually is the most powerful thing america has or ever will produce- the jewish controlled media is the king of our country and more powerful than any thing else we have. AND IT WORKS!
Initially there would be a spike but then personal responsibility and the greater public SHUNNING USERS in time we would all be better off.
Of course there will be TREMENDOUS efforts by those that PROFIT off the drug war, GOVT EMPLOYEES mainly, that would do everything in their power to use propaganda to kill drugs illegal evben though it would be against the greater good and SELF SERVING.
Kill above should be keep.
It has been proven that the drug dealer or drug user life style is a big part of the addiction. That the addicitve part of the brain is activated doing drug deals, that the excitement of being in demand and having people seek you out undercover of the night makes it feel like you are in a suspense thriller movie, the fun factor is just as addictive as the drugs themselves. Not to mention a huge draw to young teens especially young men.
Use your heads for something other than a hat rack!
Makes no difference if bad or good cocaine..either brand will kill you sooner or later.
JWnv, that is the best avatar picture I have ever seen. REALLY COOL.
Fake, makes sense doesn't it. Declare war on anything and you have the justification to spend public money into private hands.
It's all relative...the excessively high amount of drug ultimately became the 'poison' through toxicity alone.
I haven't seen a post with more uneducated, tunnel vision, clueless, NO IDEA remarks in a long time. It's amazing to me that folks will post something that reveals their complete lack of knowledge on a subject, and deliver it not as opinion, but rather some thinly veiled "fact"
"Fake media...." up there, what in the hell do drug dealers addictive lifestyles have to do with a man and woman ingesting poisoned cocaine? That's a bit like me pointing out that hotels are really fun to stay in and hotel stayers often times eat in bed.!?
How many people died from poison alcohol when it was prohibited? I would bet money that 3/4 of the people on here judging this DEAD man drink every night. What if you had to buy your Coors lite from a guy on the street corner? Its no wonder that this world is the way it is, when people are so willing to callously shred a complete stranger for making a mistake that resulted in their death. Lets hope that none of the people on here lose a child or loved one to bad pills or something very possible like that, if they do, I bet they wont read the vine watching complete strangers call that loved one an idiot, fool, loser, piece of @!$%#. Maybe they should, if that's what it takes to get a clue.
UnitedStates1776 hit it right on the head.
^
Back during prohibition people were killed or blinded by poisoned alcohol all the time. Either it was distilled wrong or unsavory people would put methanol into it.
Definitely. Also who is to say that the fact that he had cocaine in his system negates the possibility of foul play? Someone who found out about his habit may have taken this route, considering it was in his stomach rather that being inhaled it seems probable.
What seems strange here? It appears that the cocaine didn't kill and maim, so what did?
True, they did not identify the lethal substance that was mixed with the cocaine. It also sounds odd that he had a high amount of cocaine in his stomach. The only time you usually here about something like that is when the person was body packing the cocaine by swallowing balloons/condoms filled with the drug and one bursts. I mean, why would someone force a person to swallow large quantities of cocaine against their will as is being suggested in the article. I do not do drugs, but I always thought that cocaine was inhaled, not swallowed, so why would someone ever swallow a large amount of loose powder cocaine. It definitely sounds like there is something the police and this private investigator are not saying or do not know. Maybe they can get more information out of Fuller about what actually happened. However, I am sure she will try to come up with a story that will help her avoid a long prison sentence, so we may never know the truth.
I thought the same thing JS. Also if the drug was "contaminated" how does that rule out the theory that they were poisoned? Maybe they were intentionally sold "contaminated" cocaine, and hence were poisoned? Hopefully, they're still looking into this.
Any other cases in the same area that bought cocaine from the same dealer?
I, too, wonder what this 'substance' is that could kill one and paralyze another down her right side. They couldn't be the only 2, but given the area they're in others may go unnoticed or what not. And, while the contamination may be bad, perhaps only lethal if trying to smuggle in condoms, balloons, etc.. in the stomach; but that hasn't come out in the news.... yet.
Don't know much about these people or the show, so don't know. Some may not come out, and as JS stated, one of any's best hopes of finding the truth will probably do what's necessary to cut down any possible jail time. Enough goes awry with street drugs in the US; couldn't imagine the chances one takes in Uganda and places like it.
Bad cocaine??? Is there good cocaine??
Stupid
So there is good cocaine???
Yes.
No.
i bet he gila still believes in santa claus. sweet kid.
yeah, like the kind they used to sell to little old ladies at Sears and Roebuck, back in the 1930's...
Cocaine in it's natural form can be used to treat a number of ailments, including altitude sickness.
You mean Coca leaf which is basically just a somewhat different version of caffeine. Pretty harmless when used in teas and chewing the leaves. Also it's used in lots of energy drinks and supplements in peru/bolivia etc.
Well, just another reason that the drug war should end, and drugs should be legalized and REGULATED. If the cocaine had been produced to a certain set safe standard this wouldn't have happend.
And the people would still buy the unregulated stuff, because it has a bigger high or whatever.
And how do you suppose the quantity be regulated? Like prescription drugs that people are also over dosing on? What, are we supposed to put them in a room where they can only get their hands on a certain amount and if they want to leave do we hold them against their will?
Confused,
Simple, you just issue the cocaine (or heroin) at authorized clinics. Marijuana could be marketed the same way the alcohol is. The hard drug users would have to register in order to be able to get their daily fix.
You have just removed the profit motive for the drug cartels, and prevented millions from being convicted and sentenced for victimless crimes. No more futile drug war, and Mexico can have peace once again.
Agreed.
It could be marketed like the Oxycontin that is being sold on the streets?
You think we should regulate cocaine in Uganda?
not to be a wet blanket on the whole legalization thing, but what does America's war on drugs have to do with someone buying bad blow in Uganda?
yeah, like ilike said...
So he died from choking on his vomit, not from the cocaine. nice try, tho.
oh, and the guy who sold the drugs got arrested, in uganda. yikes!
no, he died from lack of oxygen...
idiot.
He died from contaminated cocaine as the report states.
cause of death: asphyxiation. "bad drugs" is not a cause of death--it's an anti drug psa. no one other than the cook, his boss, and the first connection, have access to pure, which comically is endorsed as the "good drugs" from the police.
Pure cocaine does have legitimate medicinal uses. Excellent pain killer that was used in denistry mor many years.
"Crack is wack"... Whitney Houston.
Cocaine is a helluva drug! - Rick James, bit@h
Strange, they said that it was bad drugs because he had cocaine in his stomach? I did not see anything about them testing any of the cocaine to see what it was mixed with. Or to even make sure that the cocaine was actually cut with something poisonous. He could have done some cocaine, and also been poisoned in a drink or something. Or the cocaine could have been poisoned. Still a lot of missing pieces to me.
I think you guys are on the right track. They were probably trying to smuggle the drug, which means the surviving female will now face the death penalty in that country. Why not go to South America or Mexico to get good blow? ...don't think Uganda is known for its coke quality!
Amazing
Ok Already!! Where are all the people who KNEW two days ago that these two were poisoned. They would NEVER use drugs. "I worked with that man for years". All we are missing is the usual "my kid is a good kid" ad nauseum!
"ad nauseAm"
Seeing how often ad nauseam is misspelled makes some people want to throw up.
This Latin phrase comes from a term in logic, the argumentum ad nauseam, in which debaters wear out the opposition by just repeating arguments until they get sick of the whole thing and give in.
So the culprit of his death was a direct consequence of the dangers of producing reality shows in remote locations around the world? what ?? So the fact that he was a coke head has nothing to do with it?
yeah, I travel a lot as well, and if you need drugs so bad you can't wait til you get back home, you get what you get. Can honestly say in all my years of doing drugs I have absolutely no desire to discover how sh*tty cocaine in Uganda is...
but of course that's all in the past...
Better him than some DEA Agent or Police Officer trying to enforce Drug Laws.
How about neither?
He is the father of two. Now his kids have no dad. Good one.
Amazing how stupid some people can be.
Fuller's dad says that she should not be "crucified". If one thinks of the criminal activities that exist because of the demand for drugs created by people like her and Rice - look at what Mexico has become - maybe they should be crucified.
yank:
You are blaming the drug users when it's the laws that should be blamed. It's drug prohibition and the drug war that has produced the criminal element associated with illegal drug trafficking. If this drug, cocaine, were regulated we wouldn't have criminals cutting the product in the name of profit.
To think drug use and demand will one day just magically disappear is naive to say the least. Drug use and demand has been around for thousands of years.
The answer to the drug problem is to end the spectacularly failed costly Drug War.
They say the Drug War is over. Don't be fooled. As long as drugs remain criminalized the Drug War will never be over.
When is the U.S. government going to finally realize that it can't legislate morality? Many people believe the answer to solving our drug problem is to simply tell people to say "no" to drugs but after being in practice for decades now the evidence shows this has failed miserably. People have been doing drugs for thousands of years and it's never going to stop. There will always be people who do drugs and those who become addicted.
Didn't we learn from the mistakes of Alcohol Prohibition in the 1920s/30s? It didn't work then, and drug prohibition certainly isn't working now. The failed Drug War has cost the U.S. taxpayers over a trillion dollars and has been in force for over seven decades. And the real tragedy here is all of the violence that has been associated with the Drug War and illegal drug trafficking. Drugs are more readily available and the Drug War has created a black market, gangs in every U.S. state, and powerful violent cartels south of the border and in other countries.
The laws have done more damage to this country than the drugs themselves. We have created more criminals out of drug users/addicts who should really be treated as medical patients. Wouldn't we be better off spending the Drug War funding on education, drug treatment and rehabilitation instead of failed law enforcement and incarceration? And not having to build more prisons?
We need to reevaluate our position on drug use in this country. I firmly believe we should decriminalize all drugs. Legalize marijuana and regulate it like alcohol in regards to the law, and create an atmosphere that doesn't stigmatize the drug user. I would never advocate anyone use dangerous hard drugs like meth, cocaine, heroin, etc. But the fact of life remains people will choose to use such drugs and become addicted. Countries in Europe have tried different strategies that have reduced the problems associated with drug use. Why can't the U.S. take these same approaches? We should adopt programs for hard drugs (meth, coke, heroin,etc.) like the Swiss heroin program (where addicts can get their drugs from medically supervised clinics) which has shown positive results in reducing violent crime and HIV infections and helps drug addicts to become stable and productive members of society.
Locking people up and throwing away the key is not the answer. When someone has a real drug problem and is addicted their main focus will always be to obtain and use drugs, regardless of any law. And putting a mark on someone's permanent record that will follow them for the rest of their lives will only hinder them to become productive members in society in getting jobs, student financial aid, etc.
There are many people against legalizing and/or decriminalizing drugs and have expressed many fears and dooms day scenarios but evidence has revealed this would simply NOT be the result. Portugal decriminalized drugs in 2001 and none of the nightmare scenarios touted by preenactment decriminalization opponents have become a reality.
And what are the ramifications of manufacturing, importing, and selling the drugs right here in the U.S? Wouldn't that create a new industry? Jobs? Tax revenue? And stop funding the violent cartels and eventually take away their power?
These are questions that I think once answered, will solve our drug problems and the days of the Drug War will be history.
"If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich" -- John F. Kennedy .
And if WEAK people would not mis-use marijuana, we could reap the benefits of hemp.
Hemp and Cannabis are two different things. There is no reason we can not be using hemp right now in manufacturing. It can not get you high. The only reason it is not in use, is because certain industries do not want their profit reduced by a plant that can be grown quicker and is all around better in the production aspect of what is being used now.
So no, the cannabis smokers are in no way making it so we can not reap the benefits of hemp. It's the textile, petroleum and timber industries that are making it that way.
Henry Ford was producing bio fuels from hemp in 1936, as well as making bio plastics from it. Just think how far along we would be from being off fossil fuels if the other industries didn't get it outlawed.
It's no more of a mis-use than drinking alcohol. In fact it's a lot better.
Hey Tumbleweed, do you drink?
you look high as hell, tumbleweed...
OneDirtyRat: Inhaling smoke of any kind is very bad for your health. It is not necssary for anyone to use illegal mind altering substances to live a happy and healthy life. If everyone quit using it would obviously stop a lot of crime and deaths also people would have more money to spend on other things.
Who says you need to smoke it? What about all the beneficial effects that you can enjoy from it such as pain reduction and better sleep?
realityseeker:
So then you must be for outlawing tobacco then, right? Good luck with that endeavor. And what does that have to do with my post in ending the drug war?
I never said that, and again, what does that have to do with my post about ending the drug war? And I could reverse your argument and say, "It is not necessary to live your life sober to live a happy and healthy life." Why is that some people who don't smoke anything in their lives get lung cancer and then some people who smoke their entire lives and never get lung cancer? Of course, we all know smoking tobacco is bad; the evidence is irrefutable. But, are you going to dictate to people how they should live their lives? Shouldn't that be left up to the individual to decide? Are you going to start outlawing anything and everything that might be bad for you? Better start with cheeseburgers then.
You are blaming the drug user when the real blame should be the laws. It is because of drug prohibition and the drug war we have all of the violence and deaths associated with illegal drug trafficking. In a perfect world, yes, if all drug would magically stop then there wouldn't be any demand. But the reality is that drug use and demand in the U.S. (or anywhere for that matter) is not going to magically disappear one day. It will always be here. No law or any war is going to achieve that goal. "Just say 'NO'" DOES NOT WORK!
Education and rehabilitation for people who have real drug problems is the key. And notice I said "real" drug problems. Just because someone does drugs doesn't automatically make them an addict. It's people who destroy their lives and commit crimes to get their drugs who have real problems.
Druggies really believe they are smart.
Their lies and comments on the vine prove they aren't.
Wow! Judge much? When you come down off your delusional high horse, come join the rest of us.
I earned my position on this "high horse", by being strong enough to live my life WITHOUT drug crutch's.
Or maybe you're mentally insecure and you've gone without cause you worry that you might 'like' them a bit too much.
What's to like? Living in a stupor?
Darn I just noticed that word, (stupor), is reall close to the word stupid.LOL.
Not saying that it's good to spend all your time drunk/stoned/doped up or w/e. However occasionally enjoying such things could be quite inspirational or mind expanding.
Also what's wrong with having a glass of wine with dinner or a joint after work to relax?
tumbleweed- if at your advanced age you just now figured out that stupor and stupid are similar in structure, you probably should start using drugs, it's not gonna hurt anything...
"Contaminated cocaine" is an oxymoron. It's like saying, "poison arsenic."
' Drug users who fall unconscious risk inhaling vomit'. no need to explain any further. He liked cocaine so he was Tuned up on cocaine.
Drugs kill whether they are contaminated or not. Jeff got what he asked for. If all the drugs are contaminated all the time then we won't have drug users. I think it will do a world of good to this world if all the drugs are contaminated. We can get rid of the drug problem and the crime and violence associated with industry, the drug users, dealers, street marketers, gangs and kingpins. The DEA should opt this as one of their strategies in their fight against drugs. Yes, people will die initially (they are dying/deadbeats anyway) but in the long run the riddance of drugs could be beneficial to the society.
And you call that thinking? Think again.
Don't let anyone ever tell you that you have critical thinking skills.
Your half baked idea would do nothing but increase the drug violence.
Our species has been ingesting drugs since we walked erect. We have died experimenting and creating them along the way, and they will not be deterred by your idea. People that choose to do drugs, will do so no matter what roadblocks you put in their way.
Besides, no matter how much you detest something or someone, intentionally killing them is still murder.
agednonthinker-
pretty radical proposal. I don't think you realize just how many people use illegal drugs in the USA. If we really want to take care of the problem, should we also contaminate prescription drugs, as well? and alcohol?
think of how many of your family and friends would be dead...
(and don't be naive enough to think that nobody you know uses drugs)
Cleaning out the Hollywood trash one doper at a time...No great loss....TV show sucked anyway...
What if you read an insensitive comment like that about your son, or father, or brother?
There are druggies on the vine that will name the famous and successful people that use. But now we see some of those hero's dying off.
There is good cocaine? It has become acceptable to use? We should feel sorry for those who do so?
"... very real dangers of producing reality shows in remote locations around the world. " Here the 'danger' is bad cocaine? There's no danger in Australia in using it?
Is this just a follow up to Tony Bennett's cry to legalize drugs? Making it 'legal' makes it 'good'?
Well there's no 'good' coke, but pure is still better than stuff that's been cut with stuff like meth/novacaine/chemicals/broken glass etc.
I know people that bitch about too much government control. Then demand the government legalize their drugs and tax and control them. LOL.
Or they're just tired of the government taking this utterly failed approach of arrests/ruining lives/mega prisons etc. This is a medical or personal choice issue. You don't fight it with a damn army.
It's NOT the government that is ruining your life. It's using ILLEGAL substance's. If you spend your life blaming others for your mis-deeds, you'll be un-happy.
So how is the war on drugs going in your opinion AT? I think it has been a miserable failure resulting in countless unneeded deaths. Hundreds of billions of dollars spent with not a single bit of progress or success to show for it. If anything, it is even worse now that before we decided to take up arms against it.
What positives can you show since this war began? I am trying to be objective about it and I honestly can not find what good has come from it. Drug use has not decreased at all. Kids are only finding new things to ingest to get "high" off of. Mom and Dads medicine cabinet is their dealer of choice now. How many kids need to die of hardware store concoctions before we reassess how we approach this issue?
You could throw the worlds resources at this problem and it wont help. You will never be able to regulate choice. People that choose to do drugs, will also choose to break any laws in their way. We have tried to stop drugs for decades without a single shred of success. It's time to try something else.
Oh please. I bet you can't give me even 3 logical, fact based and non-debunked reasons for mj to be illegal when we've got horrifyingly harmful legal things like alcohol/tobacco/oxycontins.
NY: It IS working. Just as speed laws work. Some will always violate the law. But having a war on drugs SAVES MANY lives. The stupid keep using and/or speeding.
truth:
ALL drugs are bad. "legal things like alcohol/tobacco/oxycontins", are drugs. Being legal doesn't make them "good". And legalizing your crap, won't make it "good".
Why are they bad? Why is it 'wrong' to temporarily alter ones own mind? In any event legalizing mj in the very least would raise a lot of money, open up the hemp industry, stop the senseless ruining of lives and overall do a lot of good for the country.
Better get your BS straight. Another druggie just said marijuana and hemp are two different things.
Mind altering drugs, (of any kind), are what's causing people to commit suicide and in some case's, taking their families with them.
Cigarettes are legal and taxed. But the are STLL bought on the black market because of the high cost.
Mostly pharma anti-depressants and the like. Also hemp and Mj are different, but mj is the primary reason behind keeping hemp illegal. This is mainly because they look nearly identical and how similar they are.
Cigs are bought on the black market cause the government got a bit too greedy with the taxes.
Seriously? I am a druggie because I am not in lockstep with your beliefs? The horrors that I did some research into the issue before making blanket statements.
Just for the record, I do not do drugs. I just do not subscribe to your beliefs about the issue.
Should I get permission from you to have a differing opinion from you so you don't stereotype me in the future? Or is that how you rationalise yourself.
Also, I said Cannabis and Hemp were different. If you're going to stereotype someone, at least get the statement right.
I don't even know why I am even bothering with a reply to you. You will just assume whatever you want about people, despite the truth.
well put nymike-
people definitely don't come into these discussions to learn, they just want a captive audience...
awful. and now his family won't have a life insurance policy to collect ...
assuming he had life insurance, why not? He didn't commit suicide intentionally...
I think 2 marijuana plants per household and locked in a room away from kids should be legal, and possession of 1/2 an ounce, 3 ounces when over 50 miles from home.
Providing it to minors should be strictly illegal.
Sale, or distribution should be severely dealt with a great force.
Cocaine, Meth, heroin, and all other hard drug sales, possession, and usage should be treated as it is; a great menace to our society. 3rd offence should require the death penalty. Yes, the users too.
The rest of us have to put up with drug gangs because of the few. Quit the drugs, or die.
Although I don't approve of any use of pot, I'd vote FOR your proposal. (Except the death penalty part).
I'd add NO SHARING.
How about letting the government also sell it in liquor stores to make money or allowing sales at regulated smoke shops? That way people who don't wanna grow can still get it without illegally buying from the black market.
This makes no sense. At all. It implies he passed out and choked on his vomit. Cocaine would have the opposite effect. If there was much any real cocaine in the "bad" cocaine he'd still be amped and wide-awake. They also said they found him bleeding from the nose and mouth, which doesn't exactly contradict with choking on one's own vomit, but does sound like a different story.
Also, the autopsy mentioned finding cocaine in his stomache. Who does that? Especially in Africa, where I'd venture cocaine is expensive and rare (as opposed to South America where it's grown).
If this man is a victim of a crime, the local police may be eager to point to other causes to avoid embarrassment, hurt tourism, or worse, be involved in some way.
Whatever's going on here, he needs a real autopsy.
And for all you guys & gals with "zero sympathy" for him? Whenever you die of cardiac failure because you didn't work out enough, cancer because you didn't wear sunblock every day, diabetes because you liked cheeseburgers, I will have no sympathy for you, either. Everyone dies, but not everyone really lives.
Let me temper my statement by saying if he was doing dodgy drugs by choice, he is an absolute moron, but I feel badly for him, and even worse for his wife and kids. I was just trying to say that I've got a great deal of sympathy regardless.
More importantly, I was trying to say his death sounds so extremely suspicious, I don't think anyone should condemn him until he gets another autopsy.