Syrian troops launch ground assault on restive city

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A Free Syria Army member sits guard at a gate during the funeral of a man who was killed by shrapnel in Qusayr, 9 miles from Homs on Tuesday.

 

Heavy fighting broke out on Wednesday near the main rebel stronghold of Baba Amr in the city of Homs when Syrian troops began a ground assault, opposition sources told Reuters.

"The army is trying to go in with infantry from the direction of al-Bassel football field and fierce confrontations with automatic rifles and heavy machine guns are taking place there," activist Mohammad al-Homsi told the news service from Homs.


He said the military had shelled the area heavily on Tuesday and overnight before the ground attack started.

While shelling continues on Homs, it was confirmed journalist Paul Conroy, of the Sunday Times, who was wounded in the attack that killed reporter Marie Colvin and French photographer Remi Ochlik, is safely out of Syria.  ITN's Tim Ewart reports.

The reports of a ground assault came as the United Nations put the death toll in the 11-month uprising against authoritarian President Bashar Assad at well over 7,500. Activists reported more than 250 dead in the past two days alone — mostly from government shelling in Homs and Hama province.

Clinton: Syria's Assad could be labeled a war criminal

Tunisia's president — the first since the country's own Arab Spring uprising toppled his predecessor — offered the Syrian leader asylum as part of a negotiated peace, an offer Assad will almost surely refuse.

A Syrian diplomat reportedly stormed out of an emergency U.N. meeting amid renewed calls for a cease-fire to deliver humanitarian aid. A top human rights official told The Associated Press a U.N. panel's report concluded that members of the Damascus regime were responsible for "crimes against humanity."

Rebel stronghold shelled as Syria vote result looms

In shift, China backs aid
In a possible significant change of tact, China backed international efforts to send humanitarian aid to Syria, Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi said, after Western powers proposed a United Nations resolution authorizing humanitarian aid.

It was not clear whether Yang's remarks mean China will consider the proposed new U.N. Security Council resolution. China is one of the five permanent members of the Council which have the power to veto such resolutions.

"The pressing task now is for all sides to cease violence in the Syrian conflict, and to launch as soon as possible inclusive political dialogue and together deliberate on a reform plan," Yang told Elaraby, who has previously said Beijing's veto lost it diplomatic credit in the Arab world.

'I think I will die,' man in Syria's besieged city of Homs says — then the line goes dead

"The international community should create conditions for this, and extend humanitarian aid to Syria," added Yang.

China is trying to win back diplomatic ground after its widely condemned handling of the Syrian crisis.

Western powers said the U.N. Security Council would work on a draft resolution about extending help to stricken parts of Syria, and France urged Russia and China not to veto it, as they have previous drafts.

Yang made the comments in a phone call late on Tuesday with the head of the Arab League, Nabil Elaraby, the official Xinhua news service reported on Wednesday.

The bloodshed in Syria, where government forces have been bombarding neighborhoods held by opposition forces, has turned into a broader test setting Western powers against China and Russia over how the world should respond to civil turmoil.

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Time for the other Arab nations to get involved, not the western countries. It is an Arab problem, let the Arabs solve it.

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#1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:07 AM EST

Sally..Unfortunatly, the Arabs cannot solve it. The resolution was vetoed by China and Russia for UN help. The Arab League is toothless.

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#1.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:34 AM EST

Hey- yeah, Where ARE the rich Turks, the rolling-in-it Saudis and the prima-donna Kuwaitis and the UAE in all this, anyhow????

Let me guess, too busy counting their money, right??????? Lard a$$es.

Notice their bytching and moaning gets louder the longer we stay out of it.

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#1.2 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:43 AM EST

The Saudi's are surrounded by third world dogma soon enough the rich empire will have to get involved.

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#1.3 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:17 AM EST

Those rich empires can not get fully involved without causing religious civil war in their own countries. You have to remember the Syrian war is more about one religious group keeping power over another. Those same religious groups exist in most other middle eastern countries. To fully back one over the other means the country would be directly promoting one religion over another. The only way this war is going to end is with genocide of religious groups or the UN stepping in which could also result in genocide of a religious group.

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:05 AM EST

The Middle East is a pathetic joke of humanity. One could argue humanity never existed in the ME.

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#1.5 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:20 AM EST

Bombing then ground troops is a long used military strategy. Worked for Hitler all over Europe. Since all the people in Hums can not get out it is like the Jewish ghettos in Poland. Hmm Genocide again. Since this is the middle east I have no idea what would be a correct (humane?) response from the US/UN.

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#1.6 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:42 AM EST

In reality, civilization began in the ME.

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:42 AM EST

"Cradle of civilization" my left foot. More like cradle of hate and ignorance.

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#1.8 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:51 AM EST

I wonder if we are making all this bluster just to save face? Granted the civilian death toll is appalling, but wouldnt many Muslim Brotherhood and related groups also lose troops?

Do we really want Syria, Egypt, Libya, falling into the hands of Shia Muslim Brotherhood?

How many Sunni majority countries are our "friends". How many Shia?

Imagine how different the ME would be if we left Saddam in control of Shia majority Iraq and went after Osama in Afghanistan?

Anyway I hope Russia gets a clue. Syria, I believe, has Russia's only naval base in the region. Russia doesnt want more American drones flying around its assets. Putin needs to quit orchestrating fake assassination attempts and end this BS in Syria.

    #1.9 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:10 AM EST

    Dave...

    In reality, civilization began in the ME.

    And in all likelihood, it will end there as well...

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    #1.10 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:20 AM EST

    Hello folks, we have major issues in our country that need immediate attention .When are we going to leave other countries alone? Let them resolve their own civil wars. Our country is broke and we are interfering with other countries when we have plenty of problems we need to fix and take care of in America first! If we don’t recognize and categorize our problems, how are we going to know what it is that needs fixing? I hope we can come together as a nation and figure out the solutions to our problems.

    We allow a foreign entity (Federal Reserve, neither federal nor a reserve, a group of mostly European banksters) to control our currency! This system is why you, I, economies and nations are debt slaves! The Fed and even the European ECB can print money, but how can they create wealth by letting bankers use it for speculation (derivatives market), greater consolidation, and big bonuses.

    We let Wall Street run our government! Wall Street is Washington and Washington is Wall Street! We have a two headed one party system serving their masters Wall Street and the Federal Reserve!

    Our presidential politicians in both parties are going to spend approximately 1 billion dollars each on their campaigns this year, yet we are laying off fire fighters, teachers and policemen. Two billion dollars on presidential campaigns, is that insane or what? Then, we allow the Super Pac’s with little regulation and full anonymity to influence our American elections through the sheer volume of money that will most likely be used for negative advertising!

    Our congress is bought and paid for by lobbyists and are involved with insider trading, doing the bidding for those who put the most money in their pockets! They get rich while we the “freeloaders” get cuts to Medicare and Social Security all the while they receive a tax payer salary and health benefits for life for themselves and their family compliments of the “freeloaders”.

    We've legalized Corporations (Citizen's United) as people! They can now buy any election they want to, from sheriff to president! They don't even have to be American corporations! Corporations have severed their moral contract with America. It used to be you worked hard and helped them gain success and you shared in their success through better wages and benefits, all you get now is a pink slip.

    The BP Corporation will likely not be charged with any criminal malfeasance in the largest natural disaster in history. The oil leak continues to flow and there are reports Corexit is still being used without any oversight by the U.S.. Many scientists claim the gulf loop current has been broken as a result of the leak. If you want evidence of the leak just talk to the residents and oil spill workers living along the gulf from Texas to Florida.

    We invade a different country every year! Killing and displacing millions of people and spending trillions of dollars to enrich the Oil, Banking, and Corporate cartels!

    The Census Department of the American Federal Government recently reported that “50% of the nation’s population were living below the poverty line”.

    50 million people can't go to a doctor because they don't have health care!

    47 million people need food stamps just to feed themselves!

    25 million people are unemployed or underemployed!

    15 million people's mortgages are worth more than their homes!

    Our national debt is 15.3 trillion soon to go close to 17 trillion dollars! We pay off our debt with more debt! That is like putting gas on the fire! They tell the U.S. citizens it is their fault because they don't live within their means! They fail to mention it has everything to do with corrupt business and political leaders and the Federal Reserve and their fractional reserve banking system!

    The worlds GDP is 65 trillion and the derivatives market is estimated at 1.4 quadrillion. If Greece defaults at 100% and If the ISDA (International Swaps and Derivative Association) labels this credit event a default, our 5 largest banks who own 97% of world’s derivatives will crash. They can’t pay on the credit default swaps owed associated with Greece! But that’s ok, we’ll bail them out again! You know their motto, privatize profits and socialize losses! QE3 has already started with the currency swaps.

    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the flagships of our housing bubble that has burst! The housing market used to be what was fueling the middle class as manufacturing was being outsourced to foreign countries, it got over leveraged like our banks and stock markets and there is no resolution in site! The mortgage settlement just signed is just another small fine and in reality a bailout for the banks for what they are truly liable for.

    They tell us social safety nets, Medicare and, Social Security that you and I paid into is Socialism when the largest recipients of social welfare in the history of the world are our “Capitalist, Free Market” banking and financial institutions! Remember the bailouts? We keep bailing out the banks to the tune of tens of trillions and we're told it's because they are too big to fail and all the while we allow them to get bigger! We are witnessing the biggest bank robbery in history and the banks and financial institutions are doing the robbing!

    Our media (presstitutes) are bought and paid for by corporations and treat us like mushrooms! Reuters and the Associated Press try to tell us what to believe and think, such as unemployment is at 8.3% and falling, war is peace, they hate us for our freedom, the terrorists are out to get you, the economy is great, borrow and spend! etc…

    Our constitution, our most sacred document as a country is meaningless!

    We have lost most of our civil liberties through the passage of the Patriot Act and National Defense and Authorization Act! They have authorized the use of spy drones in American skies! You can be surveilled by any number of Federal agencies, have your phone and computer tapped, bank, medical, and private records accessed! You can be arrested without gaining access to an attorney or a trial. We are molested at the airports or radiated for “security” etc…!

    NYPD’s aggressive street policing program, called “stop-and-frisk,” which predominantly targets low-income minority neighborhoods. In 2011, the program stopped and searched more than 500,000 New Yorkers, 85 percent of them black or Latino. This program is moving to a city near you!

    We have created another cartel the “Prison Industrial Complex”! We have outsourced our incarceration of United States citizens which consists of over 6 million prisoners! This exceeds the number of prisoners held in the gulags of the former Soviet Union at any point in history! All objectivity of prison reform has flown out the window in exchange for profits! No prisoners no profits! Are there prison lobbyists? You bet and loaded with cash compliments of you and me!

    The Military Industrial Complex is King, our defense budget is larger than the rest of the world’s combined! We are the enforcement arm of all the world’s cartels! The policeman of the world! In our countries short history we have bombed over 60 different countries! The outsourcing of our security to private military companies like XE (formerly Blackwater) is increasing dramatically!

    The phony war on drugs! While our military protect the poppy fields in Afghanistan, Wells Fargo has been caught laundering money for the Mexican drug cartel in the United States (look it up). The use of drugs in the health care industry is over a 100 billion dollar a year scam. There's no profit in the cure only in the treatment. You are not allowed to buy the same manufactured prescription drugs from other countries at a cheaper price because the drug lobby has had congress pass laws against it to protect their profits.

    We let the elite divide us so that they can keep us in fear, distracted, and divided to the theft going on right in front of our eyes each and every second of the day! The theft of our civil liberties, money and property!

    What is wrong with this picture and what does it say about us that we allow this to take place? We have lost our moral compass and our priorities as a country and need to get them back! We have plenty to take care of here, let’s concentrate on fixing America for awhile!

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    #1.11 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:40 AM EST

    ya sally the arabs that telling syria what to do they have human rights violation then saddam and gaddaffi put together . and how come all these fighters cover thier head is it because they all alquida anf from diff. countreis wee need to take of our own and let the dam saudies and gulf states take care of their own agendas

    • 1 vote
    #1.12 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:42 AM EST

    The US won't get involved because the Syrians don't have enough oil! Hundreds if not thousands more will die. The blood of these people will be on the hands of the sons of pigs Saudis, the sons of dogs Syrians , the sons of whores Iranians and the ever so merciful Muslum Clerics. Before the US gets involved, the entire ME should get on their knees and beg forgiveness from the world for being the biggest bunch of ass clowns in existance. Then pay the US for all the money spent on fighting their wars and trying to solve their problems!

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    #1.13 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:44 AM EST

    im sure the arab nations would get involved if it were women they were fighting, something about arabs and their treatment of women really puzzles me.

    someone who can produce children should be cherished even if they give birth to girls, thats as close to god as one can get, a new born baby.

    you will feel remorse from me when i hear differently how women get treated over there

    otherwise ill reguard arab men, middle east men, and or any man on the planet who treat women badly as if they were the women

    get your @!$%# together and treat all as if they were your best friends and not the dailey garbage

    • 3 votes
    #1.14 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:22 AM EST

    Russian and Chinese weapons killing civilians now there is a first.. Peaceful Muslims loving their fellow Muslim, this has to be Americas fault whether we get involved or not.. Keep on believing that all America wants to do is steal oil like the jihad propaganda says.. How much oil did we steal from Iraq?? None!! These people live in a cult mentality that teaches them to kill and hate..

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    #1.15 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:59 AM EST

    Who do you think has less power, The Arab League or the United nations? It appears neither can change anything. We need to find a fuel source other than oil. Without the income from oil the Arabs will kill each other off or starve. It's a WIN, WIN.

      #1.16 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:20 PM EST

      "Russian and Chinese weapons killing civilians now there is a first.."

      Your right there.Since we are the biggest arms dealers in the world.Its usually our sold weapons doing the civilian killing.

        #1.17 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM EST

        "Keep on believing that all America wants to do is steal oil like the jihad propaganda says.. How much oil did we steal from Iraq??"

        Hello folks , anyone that tells you that we didn't go into Iraq for oil is either uninformed or is believing the sound bites they get from the corporate controlled presstitutes. Six months before the invasion of Iraq the administration brought in a group of oil executives to advise them on Iraqi oil policy. They also set up a consulting group under the "Future of Iraq Project" called the "Oil and Energy Working Group". The consensus was that Iraq should open its oil fields to international oil companies. They then created and enacted laws to privatize the Iraqi oil industry. This was the crafty way they have stolen Iraq's oil.

        Essentially the United States crafted a new oil law for Iraq that provides for production sharing agreements [PSAs], which are contractual terms between a government and a foreign corporation to explore for, produce and market oil. Production sharing agreements are not used by any country in the Middle East, or in fact by any country that's truly wealthy in oil. They're used to entice investors into an area where the oil is expensive to produce or there isn't a lot of oil.

        But Iraq has potentially the largest oil reserves in the world and they're very easy and cheap to get to -- in Iraq, you essentially just stick a pipe in the ground and you get oil. There's absolutely no reason for Iraq to enter into PSAs, but there's every reason for Western oil companies to want them -- they provide the best terms short of full privatization of the oil. The oil executives are who wrote these laws and with the help of the military forced Iraq to sign them into their countries laws.

        Iraq has eighty known oil fields. Seventeen of them have been discovered. Under the new oil law -- written into the constitution -- those seventeen will be under the control of the Iraqi national oil company.

        All undiscovered oil fields are now open to the PSAs. That means, depending on how much oil there is in Iraq, foreign companies will have control over at least 64 percent of Iraq's oil and as much as 84 percent.

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        #1.18 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:58 PM EST

        TrustVerify -

        So, what exactly is so bad about an agreement between foreign oil companies and the Iraqi government that will get Iraq back in the oil production game. You said:

        "They're used to entice investors into an area where the oil is expensive to produce or there isn't a lot of oil."

        What is so bad about that? It provides a means for them to provide Iraqis with jobs.

        It will give them access to revenue they otherwise would not have to harvest the oil.

        It will provide them and the world with cheaper oil as the world is seeing record oil prices.

        It will move Iraq closer to normalcy through other businesses that benefit from the work being done such as housing and food industry.

        The global economy will benefit from China, the middle east, European countries, frankly everywhere; This is a global economy we live in. Everything from drilling equipment, to calculators to lumber to migrant workers will be needed.

        This agreement is completely voluntary, and the benefits are immeasurable for the Iraqis, as well as to the rest of the world. Think about it; some food vendor in the Philippines can hire an extra worker because a factory that produces some widget adds a third shift to keep up.

        This agreement will help a lot of people from all over the globe, but especially the Iraqis.

        Some potential terrorist may be able to find a decent job, thus scrapping plan to kill good hard working people. It also provides an opportunity for individual sects of Islam to become friends and become more tolerant of each others differences that otherwise would not have met.

        Finding how this could be twisted into a negative takes the twisted warped mind of an instigator of evil thought processes.

        It makes me wonder if you are on Ahmadinejad's payroll trying to stir up trouble. It seems to me that nearly all of your posts are full of anti - American negative thought processes.

        In person, I would say they are full of something else; "Horse Hockey"

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        #1.19 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:43 PM EST

        There is nothing voluntary about the situation in Iraq, we illegally invaded their country remember! They didn't have weapons of mass destruction which was the only pretense to attacking their country. There is no way you can spin what we did to Iraq as positive although their are a few ignorant people who will try.

        Why is it other countries feel like they have to defend their territory? Could it be that they know we have no problem invading their sovereignty just as we have done to countless other countries. Since World War II, 90% of the casualties of war are unarmed civilians. 1/3 of them children. Our victims have done nothing to us. From Palestine to Afghanistan to Iraq to Somalia to wherever our next target may be, their murders are not collateral damage, they are the nature of modern warfare. They don't hate us because of our freedoms. They hate us because every day we are funding and committing crimes against humanity. The so-called "war on terror" is a cover for our military aggression to gain control of the resources of western Asia.

        This is sending the poor of this country to kill the poor of those Muslim countries. This is trading blood for oil. This is genocide, and to most of the world, we are the terrorists. In these times, remaining silent on our responsibility to the world and its future is criminal. And in light of our complicity in the supreme crimes against humanity in Iraq and Afghanistan, and ongoing violations of the U.N. Charter in International Law, how dare any American criticize the actions of legitimate resistance to illegal occupation.

        Many of our soldiers don't fight for America, they fight for their lives and their buddies beside them, because we put them in a war zone. They're not defending our freedoms, they're laying the foundation for permanent military bases to defend the freedoms of Exxon Mobil and British Petroleum.

        Our country has lost its moral compass and by sitting idly by and condoning the atrocities that are committed around the world in my name is not going to go by without letting my congressman and senator know it.

          #1.20 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:44 PM EST
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          One way or another, Azzhead has to go!

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          Reply#2 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:20 AM EST

          Time for us to stay the hell out of it. This is an Syrian problem, let the Assad solve it.

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          Reply#3 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:21 AM EST

          Bill..It is not SYRIAN PROBLEM WHEN INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING SLAUGHTERED it is a world problem for everyone. Time for you NOT to get involved, go back to sleep.

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          #3.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:36 AM EST

          Nobody is innocent in the ME. They hate each other and anyone who isn't part of their secular group.

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          #3.2 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:22 AM EST

          Bobl...Innocent people are being slaughtered all over the world. Take a peek at Africa. Hell, take a peek at Mexico. Where is your compassion for these people.

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          #3.3 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:28 AM EST

          It costs Billions to help and feed people, Lets use it in the USA for our own people.

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          #3.4 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:26 AM EST

          Bobl------- Feel free to go to Syria, use your time, your money and your life, leave us alone.

          If you don't want to feel free to shut your mouth.

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          #3.5 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:29 AM EST

          is it really our prob. why do not the french and the british go back to libya civilians dying every day i thought thats what they went for to atart with. do not give that bull these countries wants to rob the oil and everything these little countries have ? save the innocent people give me a break

            #3.6 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:11 AM EST
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            I guess Putin is advising them on how he subdued the Chechens.....through mass murder bombardments.

            Maybe Syria will be the first new Russian "satellite" country following their loss of Eastern Europe from their "Empire's Crown"...KGB trainers will be the first to arrive to show the Syrians how to "really" take a people down...

            I will be time for "Peoples War".

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            Reply#4 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:37 AM EST

            You mean the Al Qeada supported Chechen terrorists.The ones blowing up civilians in Russia.The ones that slaughtered the Russian children.The same ones that the US brands as terrorists.Those guys,hmm.If I was advising the Syrian government,that's exactly the advise I'd give them.Crush the rebellion before it turns into another Al Qeada battleground.

              #4.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:58 PM EST
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                Reply#5 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:43 AM EST

                Ask Obama adm. why they are with the foreign insurgents in Syria (SNC) backed by Turkey,Saudis,Qataris et al and not with the liberal opposition in Syria enabling them to peacefully undertake change in administration. They are represented by all the various factions (not the outside AQ related insurgents) Just 15 minutes ago- Al Queda terrorist SEIT AL-ADEL was arrested at Cairo,Egypt airport. FBI's 10 most wanted terrorist .He arrived onEMIRATES AIRLINE flight from Pakistan with a stopover inDUBAI on Wednesday. http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-37577-Seif-al-Adel-arrested-in-Cairo-airport.

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                Reply#6 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:43 AM EST

                So... what does Obama have to do with ANY of that?

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                #6.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:34 AM EST
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                All of the "players" are now assuming their positions under the direction of that which is evil.

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                Reply#7 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:47 AM EST

                China never misses a chance to criticize the USA as imperialists, yet it has evolved on our fortune. It boasts about how it never starts wars, because it has no world responsibility and just takes from developed countries.

                  Reply#8 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:08 AM EST

                  I hope they can hold back the Rebels !!!!!!!!!!!!! theses are nothing more than rebels upsetting the middle east !! no good new goverment has come out from any of the rebel takeovers !

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                  Reply#9 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:18 AM EST

                  Great story, Obama and Bush were both labeled War Criminals. Just a matter of what Side your spinning Hillary.

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                  Reply#10 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:25 AM EST

                  Stupid remark!

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                  #10.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:32 AM EST
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                  That would suck being stuck somewhere without a weapon to defend yourself and no aid coming in..

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                  Reply#11 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:27 AM EST

                  You people that don't want any envolvment in Syria, are nothing but a bunch of cowards!

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                  Reply#12 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:31 AM EST

                  Hmmm ... according to the Urban Dictionary, there are two definitions of "envolve": (1) To chat with someone on a forum, or (2) How illiterate individuals spell involve. So it would seem that either we are envolved or you are illiterate. The fact that you think that getting members of one group of people killed in order to keep members of another group of people from being killed suggests the latter.

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                  #12.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:23 AM EST

                  Here is a concept, if the Middle East would evolve we wouldn't have to worry about their ignorance.

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                  #12.2 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:29 AM EST

                  bobl, I really disagree with what you are saying. I don't want us to be involved in anything going on over in the middle east. I am not a coward or even close to it. BTW I did serve my country and while serving my country I was shot at among other things. Just because I don't want to see any more AMERICANS(my fellow military people) getting killed because of a bunch of idiots that love to be in wars does not make me or anyone else cowards. How long did you serve?

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                  #12.3 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:38 AM EST

                  How about we send your ass over there Bobl-1819708, and you can solve their freakin problem!

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                  #12.4 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:20 AM EST

                  Bobls wobble when they get shot but they don't fall down? LOL...

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                  #12.5 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:31 AM EST
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                  A Syrian diplomat reportedly stormed out of an emergency U.N. meeting amid renewed calls for a cease-fire to deliver humanitarian aid.

                  I think someone should take a red hot cattle prod and stick it as far up the wimpy, gimpy little puppet Syrian diplomats arse as possible. That might also fix the severe hemorrhoid problem I think he's having, if not give us needed entertainment.

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                  Reply#13 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:35 AM EST

                  "In that Day, I (GOD) will seek to Destroy Every Nation that comes against Jerusalem." Zechariah 12:9. Egypt tried more than once. Look at them now. Syria tried more than once. Look at them Now. Iraq tried more than once. Look at them now. "Let all them be confounded and turned back that Hate Zion." Psalm 129:5 Iran is Next! Enjoy the Show.

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                  Reply#14 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:40 AM EST

                  Its the same old story, one person wants it all. Greed, greed, greed. And they will step on and crush anyone who gets in their way. Human nature at its best! And meanwhile all the leaders of the world stand by and yell and do nothing. Wimps and cowards, especially the so called Arab League. They should instead be called, "We like to do little boys League." Effing Wimps!

                    Reply#15 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:43 AM EST

                    GOOD! The only good Muzzie is a dead one. That many less psycho loons to come over and try to blow us up.

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                    Reply#16 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:08 AM EST

                    you really believe the muslims blew us up- you uninformed igget!

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                    #16.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:28 AM EST

                    He's not uninformed, just hopelessly prejudiced.

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                    #16.2 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:36 AM EST
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                    Don't know why we need to be so concerned, there is a worse drug war just across the border in Mexico that has killed more.

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                    Reply#17 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:25 AM EST

                    @ Bobl-1819708 and others like you. When are you going to deploy to go to Syria? Do you plan on cashing in your 401K to pay for the trip and aid?

                    I always find it funny how easy it is for you to send others into harms way, but lack the desire to go with them. Unless you have relatives in Syria, this is not your fight nor is it mine. The US needs to mind its own business and let the people of that region handle this. Iraq was a failure, the Taliban is now taking back Afghanistan, and the US is broke.

                    Let the wealthy middle eastern nations take care of their own.

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                    Reply#18 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:31 AM EST

                    Flavor of the week calls for intervention?

                    Approximately 19,500 civilians have died in Darfur, yet there has been no call for direct US intervention. Most Americans remain unaware of the problem, and those aware could care less.

                    During the Mozambique civil war uncountable numbers of civilians were massacred, and both sides were condemned as war criminals. None were ever tried by any court, and the victims/survivors were urged by the world to, "get over it and get on with your lives".

                    Pol Pot regime was well known for the "killing fields", yet there was no outcry for US military intervention in Cambodia.

                    Now we have Syria, and people are running around like chickens with their heads cut off calling for intervention because the bad people are at it killing civilians again.

                    Isn't the first time, and won't be the last.

                    For those of you upset with the killing of civilians, what makes Syria more important then any other battleground in the world? What is your criteria for when the US intervenes, and when the US stays out of it? Are you basing your desire for intervention on sensationalized media hype?

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                    Reply#19 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:56 AM EST

                    "Are you basing your desire for intervention on sensationalized media hype?"

                    Yes,and the fact they don't have to go themselves.Back in the 30's the big cause was Spain.But there,brave men actually went to fight.Not just ran their mouths,or typed gung ho statements.If you are that worked up over the Syrian rebels.Go over there and put your money where you mouth is.As much as i hate the Al Qaeda terrorists,I must say,they have the courage of their convictions.Their leaders call,and they volunteer and head out to fight.

                      #19.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:13 PM EST
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                      @ Ikan Mack. Freedom isn't free! Do you enjoy your freedom? Your thinking is going to cost you your freedom! I imagine you believe in the taking of our guns? Let's do just that! Let the government take our guns, stay out of the middle east and just sit here and wait on them to come after us. Then YOU will not have a choice wether it is your fight or not!

                        Reply#20 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:19 AM EST

                        If the United States had not invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, we would still be in the Western Hemisphere. And with a few more bucks in the treasury.

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                        #20.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:26 AM EST

                        Doubtful after the way this admunistration has spent money

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                        #20.2 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:53 AM EST

                        I stand corrected.

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                        #20.3 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:09 AM EST
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                        A rebel minority is attempting to overthrow the Syrian government. The military response of the government makes its leader a war criminal in the minds of Obama and his incompetent appointments in Washington. WOW.

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                        Reply#21 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:23 AM EST

                        I think most people would concider a government that declares war on their people a criminal. Be glad George W. is not in office, he would have had troops on their door step by now, with or without support, and you don't move that many troops for no reason, remember Iraq.

                          #21.1 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:36 PM EST
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                          Another dictator determined to hold on to power no matter how many inncoent people suffer as a consequence. I am a bit surprised his own military leaders have not turned on him. With any luck it will come to that and his reign of terror will end.

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                          Reply#22 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:44 AM EST

                          I can't imagine the unspeakable terror felt by the civilians of Homs and other places around the world who are caught in the crosshairs of warring tribal, religious and government factions. As much as I abhor these crimes against humanity, we have to ask ourselves where the line should be drawn as to our physical involvement. We have people in this country who struggle each and every day just to get by. We have men and women coming home from these war-torn areas maimed and traumatized, not to mention those in body bags. A rational person could argue both sides of this issue, but it just may be a situation better left to those closer to the area and directly impacted by the violence.

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                          Reply#23 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:57 AM EST

                          What corrupt and gutless leaders you have around the world.

                            Reply#24 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:04 AM EST

                            No one knows what will replace Assad so nobody is going to step in. Even a bad status quo is better than the unknown if you are a politician/statesman. Unfortunately, human life has taken a back door to economics everywhere. Abortion is a multi-billion dollar business.

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                            Reply#25 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:07 AM EST
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