Iran says it will let UN nuclear sleuths visit key military site

DigitalGlobe satellite file image, received courtesy of the Institute for Science and International Security, showing a view of facilities within Parchin, Iran.

Updated at 8:25 a.m. ET: TEHRAN -- Iran said on Tuesday it would let U.N. nuclear investigators visit a military complex where they had been refused access to check intelligence suggesting Tehran has pursued explosives research relevant to nuclear weapons. 

Western diplomats dismissed Iran's statement as a time-buying gambit -- rather than a genuine shift toward nuclear transparency -- with Israel talking increasingly stridently of last-resort military action against its arch-enemy.


Diplomats cited a proviso in the statement saying that access to Parchin still hinged on a broader agreement on how to settle outstanding issues which the two sides have long been unable to reach -- an impasse that has put the West and Tehran on a slippery slope toward confrontation.

The West has sharpened sanctions against Iran to block its oil exports, a defiant Tehran has threatened to shut Gulf oil shipping lanes in reprisal while Israel has signaled it is losing patience with efforts to isolate the Islamic Republic.

Meanwhile, European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton accepted an offer to meet Iranian nuclear negotiators to discuss Tehran's nuclear program.

Ashton represents six powers -- the United States, Russia, China, France, Britain and Germany -- in dealings with Iran, and her offer of talks came after weeks of consultations with them.

In a meeting between the two world leaders, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not back down from possible military action against Iran, while President Barack Obama said there is a still a window during which sanctions could work. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

An International Atomic Energy Agency report last year said that Iran had built a large containment chamber at Parchin, southeast of Tehran, to conduct explosives tests that are "strong indicators" of efforts to develop an atom bomb.

The IAEA requested access to Parchin during high-level talks in Tehran in February, but the Iranian side did not grant it.

Obama offers Netanyahu assurances over Iran

"...Parchin is a military site and accessing it is a time-consuming process, therefore visits cannot be allowed frequently ... We will allow the IAEA to visit it one more time," Iran's diplomatic mission in Vienna said in a statement, according to ISNA.

It did not give a date for such a visit. Iranian diplomats and IAEA officials were not immediately available for comment.

Western suspicions about activities at Parchin date back to at least 2004, when a prominent nuclear expert assessed that satellite images showed it might be a site for research and experiments applicable to nuclear weapons.

IAEA inspectors did in fact visit Parchin in 2005 but did not see the place where the U.N. watchdog now believes the explosives chamber was built.

The IAEA named Parchin in a detailed report in November that lent independent weight to Western fears that Iran is working to develop an atomic bomb, an allegation Iranian officials deny.

President Obama met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the Oval Office and discussed the crisis over potential Iranian nuclear weapons. Msnbc's Thomas Roberts has the latest.

Agency chief Yukiya Amano said on Monday Iran has tripled its monthly production of higher-grade enriched uranium and the U.N. nuclear watchdog had "serious concerns" about possible military dimensions to Tehran's atomic activities.

Israel-U.S. differences
The different announcements and diplomatic moves came as President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ended two days of public posturing on Iran without appearing to make much progress. Obama wants Israel to refrain from attacking Iran now, and Netanyahu pointedly refused to make that promise.

At the start of their White House meeting Monday morning, Obama and Netanyahu tried to present a united front on the threat emanating from Iran. The U.S. leader reaffirmed that he would resort to military force, if necessary, to keep Iran from getting a bomb and said the U.S. "always has Israel's back where Israel's security is concerned."

Majority supports military action to prevent Iranian nuclear weapon

But the two men were unable to plaster over differences on how urgently military force might be needed.

President Barack Obama said he's not bluffing about using military action if needed to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

Obama never made a direct, public appeal to Israel's visiting leader, but his message was clear.

"We do believe that there is still a window that allows for a diplomatic resolution to this issue," Obama said before the two-hour meeting with Netanyahu in the Oval Office.

Netanyahu thanked Obama for acknowledging that Israel will make its own choices but, for the second time in two days, ignored the American president's appeal to give diplomacy and sanctions time to percolate. Instead Netanyahu emphasized Israel's right to defend itself militarily and suggested he would not be swayed from going it alone if he thought Israel had to move faster to protect itself.

The very purpose of the Jewish state, he told Obama, is "to restore to the Jewish people control over our destiny," he said.

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Good to see America be the grown up here. We had our bad times but the worlds future is starting to look brighter than ever before

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#1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:11 AM EST

Grow up, visit the Middle East and you will understand the you are not dealing with a "bright future" when it comes to the current quest for the 7th Caliphate! Read and learn goof!

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#1.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:30 AM EST

Roop,

Did you bump your head this morning?

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#1.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:40 AM EST

Obama wants Israel to refrain from attacking Iran now, and Netanyahu pointedly refused to make that promise.

Mr Obama, who knows and understands that war should be waged only as a last resort when everything else fails, came across as the Peacemaker. Mr Netanyahu, on the other hand, who doesn't understand these things, came across as the warmonger.

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#1.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:11 AM EST

This is a military complex, NOT a nuclear facility. What the Iranians are doing is equivalent to a drug cartel kingpin offering investigators a peek into the front yard of his compound.

Speaking of which, anyone watch Netanyahu's speech last night? Sure, Israel has more than enough weaponry to START a conflict with these insane Islamofascist lunatics. Won't be easy to FINISH it, however. Which is why this will morph into WWWIII.

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#1.4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:27 AM EST

We will get sucked into this no matter what Israel does. If they start it we will finish, Odumbo already said as much. If they start it and get fired back on, we will finish. USA owes most of its soul to Israel (and China, and..............., and..................). Let Iran make their bomb, knowing full well if they use it on anybody, they will be hammered. Level the playing field "weapon wise" and let the diplomacy kick in afterward. Worked with another well known holder of nuclear weapons.

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#1.5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:43 AM EST

THis is a bad joke. Iran will let in the inspectors one more time.THey have to let them im a 100 times more times if necessarry.Especially since the news that Iran seemed to have tested a bomb in N Korea. Only a very firm multinational attack will finish off the pyscho Islamic regime and its nukes.And it must be soon!

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#1.6 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:52 AM EST

"Israel will not cooperate in any matter with the (IAEA) which is only aiming at reinforcing political hostilities and lines of division in the Middle East region."~ David Danieli, deputy director of Israel's atomic energy commission

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#1.7 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:40 AM EST

The U.S. allows IAEA inspections - The United States has sole authority to decide which U.S. facilities are eligible for inspections.

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#1.8 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:48 AM EST

They will allow inspectors in one time. This is because they have temporarily shut things don and moved all the equipment somewhere else. They ill let the inspectors in at a time of Iran's choosing and show them that there is nothing there at that time. Once the inspectors are gone, they will move everything back in and pick up right here they left off. The only way for the inspections to have any meaning is to allow the inspectors access at any time the inspectors choose and without and extensive advanced warning. Only surprise inspections will reveal what is really going on at a site.

The recent Iranian releases regarding their work on their Fordo nuclear enrichment facility makes it pretty clear that they are looking at more than civilian nuclear power. Their claim that the 20% enriched uranium they are producing is only for a research reactor is an obvious lie. This is because they have already enriched many time the amount of uranium needed to fuel this research reactor to this higher level. The only reason for this massive production of 20% enriched uranium is as a precursor to further enrichment to weapons grade. The IAEA estimates that Iran has enough uranium stock to make enough highly enriched uranium to fuel approximately 15 good sized nuclear weapons.

The Iranian efforts towards installing new generation centrifuges capable of far more rapid enrichment of uranium also clearly indicates their plans to develop nuclear weapons. Since they already have far more 20% enriched uranium than they need for peaceful purposes, the only reason for upgrading a facility designed for higher level enrichment is to facilitate production of weapons grade material. Once they have these new centrifuges installed, the time they will need to produce weapons grade material will be uncomfortably short. It ill be to the point that they could have the material produced before we could plan and execute a strike on the facility to try and stop them. In addition, this facility was built well underground, making it very hard to take out and also clearly indicating its military purpose. Peaceful nations do not build facilities like this deep underground and deny IAEA inspectors access to the facility if their purpose is peaceful. In addition, if they really had nothing to hide (i.e. were not working on weapons) they would let the IAEA inspectors into any of their facilities any time they wanted. The fact that they won't clearly tells me they are hiding something.

Does anyone really think Israel should sit back and let a self proclaimed enemy bent on their total destruction develop the weapons they need to do it!!! The Iranian leadership has stated publicly, multiple times that they do not believe that Israel has any right to exist and that it is their mission to wipe Israel off the map. Does anyone really expect the Israelis to sit back and let them develop nuclear weapons to do it with.

It is time to stop screwing around and allowing the Iranians to stall with the hollow promise of talks. None of the many rounds of talks to date have resulted in any progress on getting them to stop. They have no intention of changing their plans to develop nuclear weapons and only military action will stop them.

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#1.9 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:53 AM EST

"Iran has sat down and catalogued all the things that it sees negative about the United States: overthrow of Mossadegh, support of the Shah, support of Iraq during the eight-year war, the shoot down of the airplane by the cruiser Vincennes, sanctions and all of these things hemming Iran around. What do they conclude? ‘They must want to change our government!". ~ Russia Today 03-06-2012

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#1.10 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:58 AM EST

"Scholars believe that, being isolated, China and Iran need mutual support." ~ New Tang Dynasty Television, March 6, 2012

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#1.11 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:10 AM EST

Does anyone really think Israel should sit back and let a self proclaimed enemy bent on their total destruction develop the weapons they need to do it!!! The Iranian leadership has stated publicly, multiple times that they do not believe that Israel has any right to exist and that it is their mission to wipe Israel off the map. Does anyone really expect the Israelis to sit back and let them develop nuclear weapons to do it with.

It is time to stop screwing around and allowing the Iranians to stall with the hollow promise of talks. None of the many rounds of talks to date have resulted in any progress on getting them to stop. They have no intention of changing their plans to develop nuclear weapons and only military action will stop them.

Problem with THAT thinking, JS; is that Israel will start this fight and expect us to finish it for them. And what will ensue of course is another endless quagmire for the U.S. to be dragged into. China, Pakistan, India and Russia will all get involved, and side with IRAN, and World War III will ensue. Yet ANOTHER unwinnable war, only World War 2 on steroids.

No thanks. PASS.

If Israel INSISTS on striking Iran, fine - but the Israelis should be told that they are on their own. Period.

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#1.12 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:31 AM EST

Why do American soldiers have to die for the interests of a foreign nation? If Israel wants war, that's fine. But their own soldiers should be the ones to fight and die - not ours.

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#1.13 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:46 AM EST

Freedman1 1.8

Exactly. The Iranians will dictate which of their facilities can be visited by the IAEA inspectors and will deny access to any other facilities. As like before, after a while, the inspectors will consider these inspections an exercise in futility and leave.

The Iranians are determined to possess nuclear weapons and will stop at nothing to get them. This latest agreement to allow inspections of selected facilities is nothing more than a ruse to buy more time.

    #1.14 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 11:33 AM EST

    just think; Russia & China stepping into this, in the event of a major War haunts me..yes, All parties here MUST really think these things Out here....True, a irrational stupid decision maybe have a huge, economical, global environmental disaster..dang, we are already having hellacious atmosphere disturbances, why make it worse.. We stroke Israel, because of huge investments in the American industry by Jewish elites..personally, i feel they Own us, however many would say different..Please Israel, DON'T Drag US into Carnal Blood Shed !!..Herod ,URRRR the DEVIL !!!.....

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    #1.15 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 12:01 PM EST

    There isn't a leader in the world and least of all in the Middle East that believes or fears anything Obama has to say. Iran has no intention of giving up its nuclear ambitions even with pressure of sorts from the West, and as such it is time once again to play the western leaders like a fiddle. They are only opening a door because they have others yet to known. This is a shell game to buy time, because they know once they have the bomb, they can hold the world hostage.

    Washington was powerless to stop North Korea from becoming a nuclear power, and Iran is using the same playbook. Iran will get the bomb, its inevitable, and no has shown the power or the will to stop it. The real question is what will be the reaction after they use one. Because that day, unfortunately, is also inevitable. You have to be an utter fool to believe the US can prevent this from happening. Sure our leaders in Washington talk a good game, but talk is cheap, and when was the last time anything that our leaders said actually came true?

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    #1.16 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 1:30 PM EST

    Nothing a little slight of hand can't fix when dealing with nuclear weapons.... Reminds me of a Three Card Monte game..... Iran had their chance to be up front..... everything that comes out of their leadership's mouths are lies.... not much different about many of our leaders either when it comes to the art of deception......

      #1.17 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 1:45 PM EST

      That s a good satellite photo of Iran Nuke Facility! it could be anything else just like the one US presented 10 years ago to the UN showing them the same thing in Iraq..end up to be nothing at the end... about a Million people nationwide was killed during this stupid invasion

      I wish they could also show a photo of the new illegal buildings Israel is building on those occupied Land and they should also show other photos of Israel destroying Palestinian homes to expand the Land for themselves only..

      Where is Justice when you need it? but Israel will get their justice from God as he always did when is the right time comes for them..

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      #1.18 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 1:51 PM EST

      Netanyahu comes across as a leader who will protect his country from its enemies. Obama came across as a coward that doesn't want anything to happen that will risk his reelection.

      Obama said he doesn't bluff? He's been trying to bluff Iran with idle threats since he took office. Their laughing at him in Tehran right now. All talk, no action, as usual. Still waiting for him to close GITMO, reduce the national debt, and create jobs.

        #1.19 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:25 PM EST

        BM-"Especially since the news that Iran seemed to have tested a bomb in N Korea."

        Would you care to post your source for that statement.Otherwise it will stand as a bad example of warmongering propaganda.Now though, if it was true,there would be no thought of attacking Iran.We'd know they would retaliate on us with a nuclear bomb.The only reason we would dare attack them is we know they don't have nukes.

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        #1.20 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:21 PM EST
          #1.21 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:27 PM EST

          While you war mongers are fearing that 7th Caliph coming from the Muslims don't forget to keep any eye open for the New Jerusalem coming out of Israel ... its the relgious folks and fanatics on both sides that is keeping everyone upset about nukes. There is no logic or proof that Iran is more likely to first use a nuke than Israel but in America the zionists outnumber the Islamics unfortunately, and so their propaganda is the one that we all see spewing out of the TV all day long.

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          #1.22 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:53 PM EST
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          Ten years ago, most Americans falsely believed Iraq had WMDs. Today, most Americans falsely believe Iran has nuclear weapons. Once again, Big Lie propagandists like Erin Burnett are (mis)leading us into war. Google this: erin burnett fascist

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          #2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:19 AM EST

          WRONG! Most Americans believe that Iran is TRYING to achieve a nuclear weapon.

          WRONG: The area that Iran did NOT allow inspectors in to see is the very area they are suspected of having the chamber where such a weapon would be tested.

          If Iran wants to quell the questions:

          1. Why don't they allow open access to their testing sight?
          2. Why are they producing so much enriched Uranium?
          3. Why is the Uranium being enriched to a point HIGHER than needed for a Power Plant?
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          #2.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:11 AM EST

          Jonjojon, YEP!

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          #2.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:11 AM EST

          Jonjojon - Iran has said many times that they are enriching uranium to 20% for medical isotopes. If you read something other than Zionist propaganda, you might learn something useful.

          To the clowns that say Iran must allow the inspectors to view their sites, here is a NEWSFLASH, Iran's nuclear enrichment sites are under IAEA inspection. The UN delgation that recently left Iran, are not inspectors, they are fact finders trying to find incriminating evidence against Iran. If Iran tries to enrich beyond 20%, you will all know, because the Zionist controlled media will have it posted on every news source available.

          The f-ing Israelis have been saying Iran is on the verge of a nuclear bomb for the past 20 years. They said Iraq had WMD. They haven't been right once in all that time. That is at least 20 years of fear mongering and lies. Now they want us to believe they finally got it right and still we know that Iran does not have a bomb and are in fact years away.

          1984:Soon after West German engineers visit the unfinished Bushehr nuclear reactor, Jane's Defense Weekly quotes West German intelligence sources saying that Iran's production of a bomb "is entering its final stages." US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon'.

          So there were in the 'final stages' of development 28 years ago.

          Though Israel had secretly done business with the Islamic Republic after the 1979 revolution, seeking to cultivate a Persian wedge against its local Arab enemies, the early 1990s saw a concerted effort by Tel Aviv to portray Iran as a new and existential threat.

          1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front headed by the US."

          1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres tells French TV that Iran was set to have nuclear warheads by 1999. "Iran is the greatest threat and greatest problem in the Middle East," Peres warned, "because it seeks the nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious militancy."

          1992: Joseph Alpher, a former official of Israel's Mossad spy agency, says "Iran has to be identified as Enemy No. 1." Iran's nascent nuclear program, he told The New York Times, "really gives Israel the jitters.". If one day, Iran decides to cut its cooperation with the IAEA, it would make it easier to use such a site to make a bomb, but it's in the long term," said Meir Javedanfar, an analyst and lecturer on Iranian issues at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, Israel. "In the short term, I don't think Israel has too much to worry about because the site is still under inspection.

          Every time Israel decides some nation is their enemy, they march out the drums of war in the US press, in order to spread their fear mongering excuses for America to engage in war. If Israel wants to strike Iran, let them shut up and do it and face the consequences alone. They want the US to shoulder the blame for starting another war against Islam.

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          #2.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:25 AM EST
        • Why don't they allow open access to their testing sight?
        • Why are they producing so much enriched Uranium?
        • Why is the Uranium being enriched to a point HIGHER than needed for a Power Plant?
        • why should they allow any of these things? how much uranium they're producing is a soverign right of theirs; "a point higher"? really? so ? not America's business. does israel, with their 200+ nukes and who never signed the NPT (like iran), allow these things? this is a regional affair; a region the U.S. doesn't reside in. if israel wants a war with iran, let them fight it, w/out any American invovlment, for once ...
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          #2.4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 11:43 AM EST

          I agree with ironboltbruce....

          That s a good satellite photo of Iran Nuke Facility! it could be anything else just like the one US presented 10 years ago to the UN showing them the same thing in Iraq..end up to be nothing at the end... about a Million people nationwide was killed during this stupid invasion

          I wish they could also show a photo of the new illegal buildings Israel is building on those occupied Land and they should also show other photos of Israel destroying Palestinian homes to expand the Land for themselves only..

          Where is Justice when you need it? but Israel will get their justice from God as he always did when is the right time comes for them..

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          #2.5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:06 PM EST

          Why Israel have Nuke weapons? who gave them permission to have it from the first place? you re going to tell me that they should have it because every one hates them there! I say Bow S h I t ... They should of never been there from the first place... Israel with it s Nuke weapons is the biggest threat there! Iran have no choice to arm itself from Israel..

          Same S H I T with Hamas... Israel keeps ignoring UN sanction not to build over occupied land.. Hamas have no choice to fire rockets over those illegal buildings Israel is duilding... because Israel seems to be unstoppable.. and no one cares to stop Israel from their ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AGAINST THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE!!! they do what they want and kill who they want and steal who they want and no one can dare say something! you think Iran is stupid not to see what Israel is doing! of course they gona want to arm theselves since Israel doesnt respect any laws..

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          #2.6 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:19 PM EST

          I see that a lot of pro-Muslim, anti-Jewish, and (maybe even) skin head or two have jumped into the melee.

          Ralph H.: You might want to learn that a good debate tries NOT to overload the conversation with too much data that is of little or no importance to the point of discussion. In the future try to limit it please. Remember that AND Cut and paste does show intelligence, just adherence to someone Else's train of thought (or in your case propaganda).

          Erich John and Maxeemas: Please try to quell your hatred for the Hebrew Race long enough to realize that neither the USA not Israel have threatened to "Wipe Iran off the face of the map" through the auspices of a mob of bullies only seeking there own ends, you know The Red Guard?

          Maxeemas: Per your second posting; You seem to have a lot of problems with defecation. I don't condone Israel going against the mandates of the UN any more than the USA, Russia and/or China using their Veto influences in the Security Counsel to hamper things that must be done. But! Nukes in the hands of a Nut Nation is a bigger threat than any sort of standard armament. Imagine where Islam would be if there were Nuclear Weapons in the hands of the Vatican around the time of the Crusades.

          Remember that Nuclear Radiation does NOT respect national borders, THAT was proved by the original deployments in WW2 and the multinational testing of nuclear devices. Thank you for your attention; in the future learn to speak English properly before you pretend to be an American.

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          #2.7 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:28 PM EST

          "WRONG! Most Americans believe that Iran is TRYING to achieve a nuclear weapon."

          Then I suggest you call up the 16 US intelligence agencies that keep saying they don't believe Iran's leaders have decided to build nukes.While you at it,tell the Israeli intelligence agencies as well,since they say the same thing.

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          #2.8 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM EST

          Ok so I’m not going to wade in on this debate as I have already posted my thoughts on this article in a previous post, but I do have one question to ask you jonjojon, as it is something that I have encountered time and time again, that is why is it that anytime someone criticises Israel, it gets implied (or they get outright branded) that they are an anti-Semite, I mean surely there must be a difference between hating Jews and disagreeing with Israeli actions/policy/methods ect right?

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          #2.9 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:41 PM EST

          It was naivete that lead us to trust Hitler and Castro believing that they would eventually try to incorporate into the society of Sane (?) nations. It is the same thing those who say that Iran does not want a Nuke as they have admitted to that on several occasions as have Nuke Scientists that have bailed out of the program and defected.

          The North Koreans had a bomb before they admitted it and BEFORE we thought they could, they have been in close contact with Iran; does this tell you anything Uncle Bob?

          We in the "West" have fallen into a false sense of security and become soft-headed in what we say rather than what we believe. With this being an election year and the Repubelicans crying for blood in Iran and Syria, the USA and Israel are WISE taking the hard line rather than averting our eyes. Remember how accurate our Intelligence Agencies were when Bush #2 talked the Congress into invading Iraq?

          LOSMUERTOS: Gr4eat name by the way: I didn't say anything about anti-Semite.

            #2.10 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:45 PM EST

            Jonjojon

            I’m sorry I read it wrong you did say “anti-Jewish” which I assumed to be the same as anti-Semite my mistake, still I do think I raised a valid question, as it does seem to be the standard response by many pro-Israel people.

            Ps thanks about the name :)

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            #2.11 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:05 PM EST

            Jonjojon :

            I am not good in english.. thanks for pointing that out.. we can argee all day about whos the biggest threat in the middle east and I WILL ASK YOU THIS? why Israel have nuke weapons? the middle east is a hot place and no one should have those Nukes including Israel.

            Israel have created it s own problems buy having them and by been their from the first place... they dont know how to cope with their neighbors, it s only getting worse and worse for every one there.. may God be with us all...

            you also said Iran is a nut nation... bla bla bla... I think you are against Muslims or maybe you hate them so much that you keep forgetting your friends the Israelis.. the real nut nation how they treat and what they do to the Palestinian people and the crimes that Israel commits almost every day against humanity.

            Israel killed more women than Hamas did!!!!!!!!! whos the Nut Nation here? you think Israel should keep their Nukes? I say no... they are as dangerous as the Nazi s

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            #2.12 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 1:26 PM EST

            No Maxee, I'm neither against Muslims nor even Iran. What I AM against is a government that goes around threatening violence against others and then seeks to attain an ultimate weapon. Israel warns when it is attacked, it remains quiet. Iran has been threatening, blustering and pounding their war-drum chests since the mid 1970's. In mine eyes and those of many of their neighbor countries that sounds like a threat.

            Just a thought; IF Israel does have nukes (I don't doubt that either) they have been kept so quiet that they do not even talk about them. Israel has responded by attacking with overwhelming force only when they have been attacked themselves. Iran, on the other hand, is beginning to sound similar to North Korea with one exception; North Korea has one unstable governing body, Iran has two who seem at odds with each other, one Secular and one Islamic. One is set on bragging about their strength and echoing the other which is intent on wiping out Israel.

            WHAT'S TO TRUST THERE?

            Your name, as an aside, is of Roman, Latin extraction with a twisted spelling. The occupants of Persia and all the surrounding areas HATED the Romans. This in mind it was a bad choice considering your leanings.

              #2.13 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 4:07 PM EST

              it looks like you know a lot.. My Name is not important here.. it s how you think.. that matter.. you are missing the big picture here!

              I am neither Iaranian neither Israeli but you said something yourself about Iran been threatening.. since the 1970. it's been 42 years now since 1970 as you said.. Dont you think Iran would of done something by now? but it hasnt done anything! you are just assuming..

              Recently Russia was threatening georgia in the mid 2000 and they went with their threat and attacked Georgia.. now that s a real threat that no one expected but it happened but US didnt care much because they need it to work with the russian to let them place missles deffence system in checkrepublic and in another country near by to be ready for Iran.

              After 42 years Iran have not done anything yet! but just because they are Muslims we have to take them serious, this whole thing have to do with Islam period

              if Iran was all jewish, Israel will support them in any way possible regardless if their nukes is for good or bad purpose.. Israel will not allow any Muslim country to have those nukes even if a muslim turn jew.. still will not fool the Israelis :)

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              #2.14 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 7:46 PM EST

              Without proof neither of us is going anywhere with this conversation. I have a wide range of experience in my past and present and I pride myself on being able to separate the Wheat and Chaff on the Mill Stone. My studies take a stand back and pay attention attitude, one that is pointedly eclectic in nature. Yes, I'm aware of Russia and its threats and actions, it has always been that way since the USSR.

              Any nation that finds itself with a strong central leader will find said leader to be brutal and omnipotent; that is where Russia is now and also Iran. People of many lands who live in strained conditions will usually choose such leaders; they need someone clear and stern just like the conditions in which they survive. In the days of Warlords, famine and Invasions this was necessary. What is needed now is for everyone to step back, take a deep breath and look at their OWN condition and how to improve it.

              As Mahatma Gandhi said: "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." The real war today should be one of minds; We need to find a way to educate those who cannot read nor act in society without depending on a leader to tell them what or how to think. This is my approach to posting on the Net; I want to post questions that make people think for themselves, it's a very hard task and I am thankful to find responses such as yours.

              Names (including posting names) mean nothing, it is the thought that goes into them and the very fact of thought itself that matters.

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              #2.15 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:41 PM EST

              you started to make since now... what happened to you today? looks like you are having a good day I see... it makes my day be good as well to hear something positive we both agree on... I will have to agree with you on this one.. yes we need to focuse on new improvement... and yes..you must be the change you wish to see in the world.. that change starts with us and eventually it will make a difference in people's life... as long as we make the change in a positive way or in a way for every one to cop with it.. something reasonable and fair and justified and even something that God would like and will bless..(that if you believe in God) it s even better if we know how to make it happened without Violence and hate etc..

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              #2.16 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 6:21 PM EST

              Ghandi and Martin Luther King Jr made the point of peaceful revolution; I agree with them and support the ideas fully. However, there are situations when those who would bring about change need to wake up the public. I was very involved in several movements in the late 1960's and the early 1970's (and one in the 80's); many times we found that we had to shout at the people to get them to realize how they needed change and how to bring about.

              The Vietnam saga is an example of this. The older generation was under the spell of "My Country Right or Wrong", the younger generation saw it as wrong. It took the numbers to swell and the marches to expand to bring about the end. These never happened until the older generations saw the futility of the War and that never happened until the government attacked we protestors with violence.

              The problem in areas such as Syria, Libya, and (yes) Iran is that the government refuses to bend to the will of the people and back up their atrocious attacks on protestors with even more violence rather than the understanding we got here in the USA that brought an end to the war.

              Mark. the US government is far from perfect and I, myself have gotten back into the fray to have changes seen and solutions drawn. I work on a one-to-one premise and lead by example when I can. One quote that I keep near to my heart is from Abraham Lincoln who said (in part), "With Malace toward none but Charity to All". Which I read as a reminder that you should treat people without hatred and extend an open hand to those in need. As you see, I'm well versed in WORLD history and heavily influenced by those I consider wise.

                #2.17 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:57 PM EST
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                Another delay tactic as they move closer to what they believe is the ultimate prize, the opportunity to wipe Israel off the face of the earth! If Hussein falls for this he is definitely under muslim control! If they had the ability they would send a couple our way! Thank god they don't, yet!

                • 3 votes
                Reply#3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:27 AM EST

                Another delay tactic as they move closer to what they believe is the ultimate prize, the opportunity to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

                Have you lost faith in the God that made you his chosen people? Maybe you should go back and read the very Bible that has been your guide for over two thousand years.

                • 7 votes
                #3.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:31 AM EST

                And obviously, you are under the complete control of Dr. No. Clearly he has implanted a buzz bomb into your skull, replacing your brain with pea soup.

                • 4 votes
                #3.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:40 AM EST

                What blatant disrespect of the President callig him by his middle name in order to make some infantile point. Grow up.

                • 8 votes
                #3.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:55 AM EST

                m.artism1

                Why don't you get on your knees and worship our president all the while your freedoms are being stripped away from you while you are not looking.

                • 4 votes
                #3.4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:33 AM EST

                Exactly which freedom is being stipped away? Elaborate please.

                • 4 votes
                #3.5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:28 AM EST

                John : Israel plays the same games with the world when it comes to the rights of the Palestinians..

                Israel cannot have everything their way... Israel have all the rights to exist just like any other countries but the fact that Israel proceeded to have Nukes.. I have no idea how they got and how come no one knew about it to stop them from the first place!! but that s another subject... it triggered others.. around Israel to pursue Nukes... when I see my neighbor buying millions worth of weapons it makes me nervous and makes me want to buy weapons as well.. it s normal as human been to feel that way.. to protect yourself.. if Israel didnt have those Nukes.. we wouldnt be having this conversation from the first place... and everything would be ok. Israel created this mess by owning Nukes, they should of never had those nukes from the begin end of story.

                • 6 votes
                #3.6 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 3:06 PM EST
                Reply

                What a bunch of filthy wusses. Let's nuc them now while they are on their knees. Now is by far the most ideal time.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:48 AM EST

                Yup, look how easy it was to bomb the far more primitive North Vietnamese back to the stone age. Read the history of the Korean War and see how easy it is. Look at Iraq and Afganistan--war is ugly, expensive, and will cost American lives. But you don't care because you are a CHICKENHAWK who has absolutely no interest in serving the country, except as a Limbaugh-like loudmouth.

                • 6 votes
                #4.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:43 AM EST

                northlite, what are you some kind of idiot, we used conventional bombs on North Vietnam not nukes if we had the war would have ended in one day. Instead we lost 50,000 solders

                • 1 vote
                #4.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:46 AM EST

                Mtex, why would it be okay to nuke Vietnam, but not okay for another country to nuke the U.S.? You just can't go around nuking countries, without there being consequences. If Iran nuked another country (highly unlikely) they know they'd get nuked back a thousand-fold.

                Nukes should only be used defensively, as a deterrent. If Iran wants them, it's for that reason, not for this fairy tale people are being told to believe, about them salivating at the thought of using them on Israel.

                • 5 votes
                #4.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 11:46 AM EST

                Airborn7 : if we were to nuc them out and everybody else who give s us headaches, it wont be any human left on earth, there are so many problems out there! do we have to kill all the time? Human have never stopped killing since day 1 but it never solved all problems! problems keeps coming.. this is why we have diplomacy and other methods of dealing with problems without killing..

                if you dont value life, take my life instead.. will that solve your problem?

                • 1 vote
                #4.4 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 1:42 PM EST
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                Let me see now, North Korea back to the negotiating table, Iran going to allow the necessary inspections, UBL dead as a door nail, economy picking up, jobs being created, GM back to number 1 in the world, a good family man who is kind and likes to help people, a guy who likes to smile and laugh because internally he is at peace with himself....yup this is one really bad man and president.

                • 12 votes
                Reply#5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:52 AM EST

                let's see about this.... How many times has N. Korea been "back to the negotiating table"?? Iran "GOING?" to allow... Geez! how many times have we all heard this?? (and they aren't in yet...) UBL? Economy picking up... that's why gas is over $5 a gallon.... jobs being created... uh where? China? Unemployement may have dropped, BUT only by slightly. GM back to #1... Yup! That Volt is doing GREAT!!!! (And I'll bet the layoffs that went with it in this economy was "#1" also...) Oh Yeah.... he's "internally at peace with himself" Probably cause HE DOESN"T GIVE A RATS A**! Yup, you said it... "this is one really bad man and president."

                • 4 votes
                #5.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:28 AM EST

                your problem, amen right on

                • 2 votes
                #5.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:49 AM EST
                Reply

                I truthfully remembering us dismantling a WMD in Iraq..his head fell off when it was hung.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#6 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:54 AM EST

                very good, razor. A WMD with capabilites to wreak destruction of the worst kind, again and again, everwhere. people forget that this ass-hole had vast wealth (oil) at his disposal, and a hatred for the US. Now all of you clowns, who like to condemn Bush's invassion, because it's a pithy one-liner easy to write: What do you think Saddam would have EVENTUALLY been able to do with all that money and all that hate. History will record that Bush did the right thing, and I don't give a @!$%# what excuse he had to make up to do it!! Thank you Mr. President!!!

                • 4 votes
                #6.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:02 AM EST

                most american also remember that US aided Saddam in his war with Iran. Saddam was an US allied.

                • 2 votes
                #6.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:43 AM EST

                @Tim McCain, let me take a guess here, no member of your family was one of the young U.S. men and women that died going to war over WMD in Iraq that turned out not to exist. Much less the fact that Saddam Hussein, who undeniably was a tyranical maniac when it came to his own people and posturing, yet was not responsible for 9/11, Osama Bin Ladin was, and he ended up being in Pakistan, not Iraq. You really sound like an idiot, who refuses to accept the fact that the guy you voted for, sent our young men and women to their deaths over B.S., just to make his father proud that he could finish what his father started during Desert Storm and couldn't finish himself, and for no other reason than that. He did all this while his buddies raped America for all we're worth, throwing us into one of the worst economic disasters since the big depression. For which by the way, you want to blame Obama for. I love all you arm chair generals so willing to sacrifice the lives of others as long as it's not you or your loved ones out there being killed. It's people like you that are the problem. And now we're about to let Israel drag us into the final days. Effing Wake up People! If Israel does a pre-emptive nuclear strike, all bets are off with China, Russia, and North Korea, because they will all be afraid that they are next and it will trigger a nuclear war where there will be no winners! We will all lose! Duh! Is that what you people want? Because obviously you don't seem know or realize how seriously close we are to that! I don't know about you people but I don't want to end up being a shadow burned into the side of a building and I don't want that for my kids and grand kids! Think before you shoot off your stupid mouths!

                • 10 votes
                #6.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:07 AM EST

                Correction, I meant to say Osama was in Afganistan not Pakistan.

                • 3 votes
                #6.4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:17 AM EST

                You were right the first time - he wa found in Pakistan -our "staunch partners" against terrorism, according to Bush.

                • 3 votes
                #6.5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:21 AM EST

                Myschizio

                Russia was an ally in WW2. Times change.

                • 1 vote
                #6.6 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 1:20 PM EST
                Reply

                And another thing for all of the condemnation and ridicule of George Bush.....I was so damn happy he was our president on 9/11!!! This country needed a pissed-off president with balls, and George Bush was that man!!! Thanks again, Mr. President!!!

                • 6 votes
                Reply#7 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:09 AM EST

                You seem to forget, Iraq was not responsible for 9/11. Bush took his eye off the ball and dropped it. He allowed Iraq to become a distraction when he should have been looking for UBL in Afghanistan. At one time we had over 300k troops in Iraq and 40k in Afghanistan while UBL was still in hiding.

                Regardless of your opinion of Saddam Hussein, he was hardly a threat to America. The sanctions had crippled his regime and he was contained from the South and the North NFZs. We used our might to squash a mouse and left a huge vacuum that Iran may some day fill.

                History isn't done with Iraq yet. It may very well go down as a huge blunder for us.

                • 8 votes
                #7.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:39 AM EST

                You mean George Bush, the buffoon who spent nearly a trillion dollars and 5000 American lives but left the perpetrator, Osama have a free ride. That idiot Bush? Republicans are so so stupid and their errors come directly out of the wallets and lives of the rest of us.

                • 8 votes
                #7.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:45 AM EST

                I believe Clinton dropped the ball on Bin Laden. We knew about him a looooong time ago, and Clinton chose to let him walk when he was much easier to get to, i.e. pre 9-11.

                • 4 votes
                #7.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:54 AM EST

                Hey Tim - Bush attacked the wrong country. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. There never would have been a 9/11 if Bush had not been president. The Jewish lawyers he brought in to run the Pentagon, such as Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, planned and sold the Iraq war to Bush, the American people and our politicians.

                Zionist warmongers like Ken Adelman and the Zionist Washington Post pushed the war in an editorial titled, “Cakewalk in Iraq.” Jewish supremacists Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz told you that Iraq would “Welcome us as liberators.” Iraq became the longest war in American history. Here is a report from USA Today: “Pentagon officials estimated for the first time Wednesday that up to 360,000 Iraq and Afghanistan veterans may have suffered traumatic brain injuries.” Now that’s not counting tens of thousands who have suffered maiming, amputations, or death in this war based on lies.

                Wow, you Zionists should be ashamed to be posting after reading these figures, but you all could care less. It is all Israel all the time and screw America. Let the gentiles pay and die in Iraq and maybe in Iran, while the IDF spends it's time fighting Palestinian women and children or vacationing on the beaches.

                • 6 votes
                #7.4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:35 AM EST

                "I was so damn happy he was our president on 9/11!!! This country needed a pissed-off president with balls, and George Bush was that man!!! Thanks again, Mr. President!!!"

                Your proud of that guy? The President who let 9/11 happen on his watch,invades the right country to avenge the 3,000 killed on 9/11.Ends up getting over 6,000 Americans killed,and the country 3-4 trillion in new debt as well.You really set the bar low for being proud of a leader.

                • 2 votes
                #7.5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:49 PM EST
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                Check - Iran. Man, I'll bet this pi$$e$ off Israel - this is one of Iran's top secret military installations that was being waved around as "proof" that Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons. They are giving up a lot by allowing this (imagine letting IAEA inspectors into a top secret facility like Los Alamos.) I am sure that Israel and the US will do everything they can to sabotage this - up to and including sending in obvious intelligence assets as so-called inspectors (just like they did in Iraq).

                So just watch: This was a major complaint - and if the US and Israel actually cared about the WMD/nukes, the "sources" would be coming forward now and saying "This is good news. This was one of our complaints and a step in the right direction by Iran." But just like when Iraq was trying to stop the invasion at the 11th hour, this will be written off as trivial and unimportant now - a ploy - a diversionary tactic - whatever. It doesn't matter what Iran does - Israel will get their war.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#8 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:12 AM EST

                Perhaps Iran's leadership should acknowledge Israel's right to exist?

                Perhaps Iran should stop proxy terrorism through Hezbollah and Hamas?

                Just sayin'.....

                • 9 votes
                #8.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:42 AM EST

                perhaps Israel should stop oppressing the Palestinian people and admit their right to exist.

                Just sayin'....

                • 9 votes
                #8.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:45 AM EST

                Just like Iraq, Iran bought enough time to clean up the site and move everything to a new location. The new location will not be allowed to be inspected. It's a cat and mouse game. Obama is to stupid to see it.

                • 3 votes
                #8.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:48 AM EST

                I don't know. Israel will certainly not like this because the war-mongering spotlight will, once again, be reflected back on them, instead of on Iran where they want it. The world will again be looking at them and asking "Why aren't you negotiating with the Palestinians in good faith? Why do you continue to settle in the disputed territory? Why don't you take the advice of The President Of The United States, and negotiate a settlemnt that involves going back to the 1967 borders? Why do you seem hell-bent on continuing to piss off both the Arab and Western world? Nope..Israel's not going to like this.

                • 8 votes
                #8.4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:50 AM EST

                JT-595592

                Just like Iraq, Iran bought enough time to clean up the site and move everything to a new location. The new location will not be allowed to be inspected. It's a cat and mouse game. Obama is to stupid to see it.

                Hmmmm, did you get some intel that nobody else did? You're saying Saddam moved his WMD? Where to? Oh wait, I know, Syria, rght? I remember that FOX rumor, is that still going around?

                Plain English, Saddam Hussein had no nuclear capabilities, it was a farce to keep his enemies scared, it was a shell game that had no shells. Again, there were no WMD's, no railcars changing locations, it was all made up, geeeez.....

                • 10 votes
                #8.5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:37 AM EST

                Mark-941197

                The funny thing about evidence.....even when presented there are those that say what evidence? There are also those that can not see that which is in front of them for they are blinded by "their own" belief. Wake up! If Iran gets the bomb.....they will use it. Error on the side of caution. If they have nothing to hide than the inspectors should be able to go where ever and when ever they want. This is how every other country with nuke does it. Iran should be no different. To say....a let me have a few months and then you can look there is a "SURE SIGN" they are hiding something. GET IT!

                • 6 votes
                #8.6 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:51 AM EST

                JT wrote -Error on the side of caution. If they have nothing to hide than the inspectors should be able to go where ever and when ever they want. This is how every other country with nuke does it.

                Really JT? Tell us how many times Israel has allowed inspectors into Dimona. I guess Israel will be opening up all its military sites to Iran and the rest of the world according to your post. Are you completely ignorant or just mentally impaired? When you say error on the side of caution, does that mean start a possible WW3 just so Israel can feel safe or continue it's land grabbing from Islamic lands without fear of retribution.

                If Iran moved anything from any site, I am quite sure our satellites would pick up the activity, just as they would have in Iraq. There would be convoys of trucks leaving the sites.

                • 5 votes
                #8.7 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:46 AM EST

                RalphH

                Roll in that butter.....

                First,Israel is not part of the NPT so it's nukes (if there are any) are not open to inspection. More than likely they are ours.

                Second, Ignorance is thinking that Iran is not developing nukes for the purpose of making a bomb. With a little mor education you will learn that.

                Third, Mentally impaired is two fold ...a) Striking Iran WILL NOT lead to WW III. b) Supporting the weakest, most incapable, dumbest leader we have ever know in that of Obuma.

                Fourth, do you really think they need convoys to move the equipment? More likely a truck here and there .....perhaps...you know....don't make it obvious.....oh,yeah they don't know we're watching.....gotcha.

                And finally, using ill words to describe others really does not make you the more intelligent one rather it reveals that you are less educated and can't debate a topic without resorting to a middle school level.

                • 4 votes
                #8.8 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 11:42 AM EST

                JT, then can we assume your use of "Obuma" was a typographical error, not an intentional insult to the President? After all, "using ill words to describe others.....reveals that you are less educated and can't debate a topic without resorting to a middle school level".

                • 6 votes
                #8.9 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 12:21 PM EST

                Annie-716754

                touche...however, "Obuma" comes from a deep disdain for an individual and not as an off the cuff remark. I would love to call him something much lower yet find the slight need for restraint. I would also like to say that I would refrain from such in future comments however, if the need to reference said individual were to come up, I may again repeat my lapse in judgment.

                • 1 vote
                #8.10 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:53 PM EST

                JT-595592

                There is no evidence of Iran building a nuclear bomb, period. Although I also have the same suspicions as you do about it, that doesn't mean it's true.

                Secondly, like in Iraq, it could be another bluff to get attention, we don't know, do you have proof that nobody else does? Or is it just the same suspicion most of us have, with no proof?

                Third, using a nuclear weapon against another country who supposedly also has one, is basically suicide, would it be worth it to them? Yes, I know they huff and puff about taking Israel off the map, but at what cost? Are they really that stupid?

                As far as inspections go, let's put the shoe on the other foot for once. Which countries have been allowed into, say, Area 51? For that matter, how many of our own paying taxpayers have been allowed to inspect what we pay for?

                Lastly, Iran has been labelled by us (the US) an evil empire. We claim they are our enemy, (as they claim we are the great Satin, and we are their enemy), but somehow we demand we see their capabilities? Should they be able to demand to see our new stuff?

                Look, I am by no means sticking up for Iran, nor any other country. But I don't see the need to police the world, or be the bully we have been in the past. At the same time, I will not stick up for Israel either, they are not so innocent as many believe them to be. Sure, they are stuck in the middle of hatred towards them, but realistically, they give the same hate back. They've got their fanatics too, in their minds they are better than us, and we don't even exist, again fanatics.

                Worst part of all of this, guess what common denominator all involved in the Middle East have that brings them to such hatred of each other....religion. What a wonderful concept that religion is, huh? My god is better than your god! My god will beat up your god! Dare I say your god wears army boots? Silly, huh? All this hatred over an imaginary friend...

                • 5 votes
                #8.11 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 3:29 PM EST

                JT uses the fact that Israel would not sign the NPT as if it were a badge of honor. The badge of honor belongs to those nations that signed the treaty and adhere to the regulations imposed. Iran has met the requirements, bu allowing IAEA inspectors in to their enrichment sites.

                All Israel and the US have are suspicions which are based on the same bs that led us to believe Iraq had WMD. Whejn Israel gets some proof, they should come show everyone. and maybe then we will listen.

                Oh look below - It appears the Israelis had suspicions in 1992 and Iran still does not have a weapon today, 20 years later. Netanyahu better take mind reading lessons or find some better intelligence analysts, because those in Israel must really suck.

                Though Israel had secretly done business with the Islamic Republic after the 1979 revolution, seeking to cultivate a Persian wedge against its local Arab enemies, the early 1990s saw a concerted effort by Tel Aviv to portray Iran as a new and existential threat.

                1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front headed by the US."

                1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres tells French TV that Iran was set to have nuclear warheads by 1999. "Iran is the greatest threat and greatest problem in the Middle East," Peres warned, "because it seeks the nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious militancy."

                1992: Joseph Alpher, a former official of Israel's Mossad spy agency, says "Iran has to be identified as Enemy No. 1." Iran's nascent nuclear program, he told The New York Times, "really gives Israel the jitters."

                3. US joins the warnings: 1992-97

                The same alarm bells were already ringing in Washington, where in early 1992 a task force of the House Republican Research Committee claimed that there was a "98 percent certainty that Iran already had all (or virtually all) of the components required for two or three operational nuclear weapons." (It appears the Republicans were war mongering back in 1992 -- they are now at it again -- repeating Netanyahus' bs., then and now)

                • 2 votes
                #8.12 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:43 PM EST

                Mark-941197

                - You make some good points however you sound like you are still on the fence. This is a dangerous place to be. We need to get in the game and battle before it is too late. The proof is there in Iran...They are not so good at playing the hide and seek game without everyone knowing they are playing hide and seek. When is the right time to strike?....After they have figured it out and have documents which will help them to rebuild it faster...Or do you strike now and set them back from the end game for years?

                RalphH - Stop living in the past. You do know that Israel, U.S. and other countries have been conducting covert operations to try and slow Iran's progress as much as possible? Iran has had to adjust, relocate and hide many of their operations which takes time. We can only delay them so long without a full military strike. Keep thinking Iran is playing nice.....they will bite you in the A$$!

                • 1 vote
                #8.13 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 9:13 AM EST
                Reply

                I like peanuts

                • 2 votes
                Reply#9 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:17 AM EST

                Do you live in the zoo?

                • 1 vote
                #9.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:18 AM EST
                Reply

                WELL! Imagine how much HEAT you can create with a magnifying glass! GO OBAMA!

                  Reply#10 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:45 AM EST

                  just like hitler lied and stalled, iran is doing the same thing.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#11 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:27 AM EST

                  I guess that gave them enough time now to move any critical information out of that facility.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#12 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:28 AM EST

                  Exactly right !! Why wouldn't they allow the inspectors in three weeks ago when they wanted to go. This is like telling everybody at work that there will be a pi$$ test in a month....everybody get yourselves clean.

                  More smoke screens and lies by iran.

                  • 3 votes
                  #12.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:37 AM EST
                  Reply

                  Democrats + Republicans = $15 Trillion in Debt

                  If many US citizens do not trust the President why would another sovereign country?

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#13 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:37 AM EST

                  Blow all the facilities to hell, and be done with it. Oh, use a nuke to do it with so they can see what it really does.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#14 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:42 AM EST

                  Yeah and after we nuke them. China and Russia is going to nuke us because we just cut their oil supplier. Yay, then we can see what a nuke really does.

                  • 1 vote
                  #14.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 12:35 AM EST
                  Reply

                  We had UN monitors in Iraq for years looking for the "WMDs". None were ever found. Yet we still went to war in Iraq - I say "in" Iraq not "with" because it was never clearly defined WHO we were at war WITH.

                  Point is, it doesn't matter if Iran has nuclear weapon facilities or not. It makes no difference whatsoever. We are either on a track to war with Iran, or not.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#15 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:46 AM EST

                  Time for talk is over the only thing these muslims know is death so lets give them death. Kill all these Muslims once and for all.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#16 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 7:54 AM EST

                  Yes lets kill them all, but you should be enlist in the first wave that is going to invade iran and good luck not joining them during their deaths.

                  • 2 votes
                  #16.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 12:43 AM EST

                  Who's going to do the killing, you Mtex, or just your neighbors' kids?

                  • 2 votes
                  #16.2 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 6:04 AM EST
                  Reply

                  Iraq was attacked because after swallowing Kuwait.they were forced to open up all their military sites.They played cat and mouse games for years.The attack on Iraq was by several countries.Iran is just as clear cut but given the international terrorist history of Iran an attack is even more pressing.!!

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#17 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:00 AM EST

                  You want to attack Iran? Make the U.N. and its league of nations do it. Don't make the U.S. and its troops alone burden your anxieties.

                  • 2 votes
                  #17.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 12:46 AM EST
                  Reply

                  I don't "trust" a single person in this fight not at all starting with Obama everthing comes out of his mouth is nothing but empty words.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#18 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:01 AM EST

                  Carol, none of the players is putting all their cards on the table, for all the obvious reasons, and to that extent they are all liars but that's how international diplomacy works. At least we have a person like Obama who isn't allowing Israel to dictate our foreign policy in the mid east not starting another mid east war with only vague objectives.

                  In case some have forgotten, we've already two wars in the mid-east, neither of which has worked out real well for us.

                  • 5 votes
                  #18.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:12 AM EST

                  markthomas, do you no what war means it means to engage in all resources to destroy your enemy. We our using pea shooters when we should be using all weapons that includes nuclear. You can not when a war by worrying about collateral damage. To hell with all Muslim countries.

                  • 2 votes
                  #18.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:34 AM EST

                  Mtex, war should be used as a last resort, not a first one. We cannot afford another war either financially or in terms of our military capability; it was stretched far beyond its means already fighting two 10 year wars in the mid-east.

                  Moreover, bombing Iran will not accomplish much anyway. The sites in question are well hardened from attack. Bombing Iran would provide them with all the reasons to pursue making a bomb.

                  It's a tough question with no good answers, but we should at least try to avoid the worst answer.

                  • 5 votes
                  #18.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:47 AM EST

                  Mark Thomas -I agree with you completely we should not be in any war unless our homeland is attacked. The only justified war where War World 1 & 2. However we our in this sh-t hole of the middle and losing any more solders is unacceptable. They only know one thing that is death so let's give it to them bomb them off the face of earth.

                  • 2 votes
                  #18.4 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:38 AM EST

                  Mtex,did I miss hearing about Congress declaring war?

                  • 2 votes
                  #18.5 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:00 PM EST

                  @mtex

                  I can't believe I have to use the Adolph Hitler card to defend the Muslims this time. Do you hear your self? Eradicate all muslims. What did they do to you? Were your family killed in 9/11? Iran had nothing to do with 9/11. What your comments are doing is instigating a crusade. Your bascially saying kill all people of a specific faith because you believe that they are the pariah of the world just like Hitler did during NAZI reich. Total war? Thats your solution to the Muslim problem? You sound just like the muslim terrorists that try to harm us. Take a good look in the mirror and see how different you are from the terrorists in ideology.

                  • 2 votes
                  #18.6 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 12:59 AM EST

                  @Mtex, first of all by your inability to use the English language, I'm guessing you're either border line illiterate or not American. Either way anything you say comes off as childish and irresponsible. Instigating a nuclear strike on Iran would set off a world wide nuclear war where everyone would be the losers after they turn the entire atmosphere unbreathable with radioactive fallout. Do you really believe all Muslims are bad? Do you realize how ignorant you sound? It's easy to spout the kind of hate rhetoric spewing from you. You're no better than any Islamic, Israeli or home grown Christian based terrorist. Oh yes, there are Israeli terror groups, don't be fooled, they go out and terrorize muslims and anyone else who don't agree with them. In fact if my instincts are right I'd say you were either a member of one or a candidate to be one. What a sad, evil little person you must be.

                  • 1 vote
                  #18.7 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 6:22 AM EST
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                  For all the posters using the same old excuse about Iraq and the deception that they didn't have WMDs should really know the facts. Iraq used WMD against Iran in their war. Iran also used them. Both countries killed thousands of people. Iraq used the same WMD against the Kurdish people in northern Iraq massacring thousands of people. Saddam fired scud missiles into Israel as a way to show Israel that he had the tools that could implement/deliver a WMD, and was a way to rattle Israels cage to draw them into war. So please read your FACTS before drawing up arguments about whether or not Iran is pursuing nuclear warheads. Facts I do see is that Iran already has one operating nuclear power plant, has no plans to build/construct another, and has not traded for equipment to run a new power plant. Iran has traded/bought on the black market from the Ukraine several ballistic missiles supposedly with the nuclear warheads removed. The Ukrainian government discovered them missing weeks after they were sold. Iran has so much oil that there is no need for a nuclear power plant. Why enrich uranium, plutonium beyond the necessary level for a power plant? Why produce such a large amount?

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#19 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:10 AM EST

                  I don't think anyone believes Iran isn't working on a nuclear capability. The issue is how to address that problem. Bombing Iran won't do much because their sites are hardened against an aerial attack. And doing so will give them even more support for building a bomb. It's a real conundrum.

                  It's still a regional problem though and not a specific threat against the US. Israel has every reason to be nervous, but most of that reason is that Israel will have to play by other people's rules and not just their own.

                  • 4 votes
                  #19.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:32 AM EST

                  Demetrious wrote - Why enrich uranium, plutonium beyond the necessary level for a power plant? Why produce such a large amount?

                  The amount is not that large. They are also producing medical isotopes, which require 20% enrichment. This has been told time and time again and still you Zionists can not figure it out. You are all, looking for reasons to go to war, jus as you did with Iraq. Anything that runs counter to the reasons for war are discounted, by saying they are hiding something, they are all crazy, they might do this, they could do that and the repeated lies that Iran has stated that they want to destroy Israel. The truth is, there is no proof Iran would ever want to attack Israel, build a nuclear weapon or attack any other country. Iran has stated that they would attack only if attacked first by another nation. Israel has threatened and is now threatening an attack on Iran. That folks, is war mongering.

                  Granted the leadership of Iran hates Israel and America for placing sanctions on them for essentially no good reasons. If one looks at the sponsors of the legislation placing sanctions, they will find a Jew Congressman in almost every case. Iran is allowing full inspection of their nuclear enrichment facilities, as required of every signer of the NPT.

                  Israel would not sign the NPT, because they are a war mongering country with designs on the land and water of other countries.

                  • 2 votes
                  #19.2 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 11:46 AM EST

                  Ralph - the NPT is toothless.

                  We signed it... how many nuclear weapons do we STILL have... same with Russia, and all the other nations who are "allowed" to have nuclear weapons. There is no set timeline as to when the nations are supposed to have destroyed their nuclear weapons.

                  And Israel (and India and Pakistan) didnt sign the NPT because it's worthless. North Korea withdrew from the NPT.

                  Pretty much all that happens is an occasional sanction and Catherine Ashton and Ban Ki Moon looking very concerned and disgruntled.

                  • 1 vote
                  #19.3 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:13 PM EST
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                  Kind of resembles "good cop/bad cop" to me.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#20 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:31 AM EST

                  Iran is using stall tactics and buying time toward their ultimate quest of developing a nuclear weapon. Surely we cannot believe that they will ever grant access to any area of significant research and development in that regard.

                  One thing that seems clear is that Israel is ready to rock with or without the U.S. giving its approval. Ironically, the U.S. will get dragged into the matter regardless of any support given to Israel for a pre-emptive action. Netynyahu seems hell bent on going to war with Iran and that is his choice. The U.S. should not feel any obligation in backing this if diplomatic options are not first given a chance. We send billions of foreign aid to Israel, they take and take, but what do they give us in return? It seems we are on the precipice of what could be WWIII.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#21 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:50 AM EST

                  Israel knows exactly what they are doing. They are bringing this up in the US during an election cycle where they know neither party wants to be perceived as abandoning Israel.

                  It would be unfortunate if we let them dictate our mid east policy even more than they do now.

                  • 4 votes
                  #21.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:30 AM EST
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                  What a clever ruse inviting a UN delegation to "inspect" Iran's innocent efforts to develop nuclear capability. I'll bet it would look very bad if there was an airstrike or other military actions taken while the UN group was in the country. Hmmm - wonder if Iran thought of this too????

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#22 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:26 AM EST

                  I agree that Iran is playing a game. They are fooling nobody. However, I think we need to stop trying to "right" all the governments we disagree with. We have messed up enough countries in the last 20 years to have learned a lesson or two (as the lesson we learned bombing Japan - Atomic weapons are bad). We helped Saddam and OBL become what they became (I am not saying that the world isn't better off without them). We have turned Afghanistan, Iraq and many other places into ungoverned wrecks. No wonder they hate us over there. Admittedly, they are willing to take our money and aide to the tune of billions or trillions. We need to focus more of what we have redeveloping the U.S. We have lost our world leadership in everything except military strength. Time to refocus our talents.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#23 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:03 AM EST

                  Yes, they will let inspectors in to do their job; they just won't let them inspect what they really should And the UN will go away satisified. Chamberlainesque ("We have peace in our times!") if you ask me.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#24 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:07 AM EST

                  Why Israel is allowed to break all the rules that others are forced to follow is beyond belief. They brought terror to New York, drain our economy, and run the AIPAC corruption machine within our boarders. Oy-veh!

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#25 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:12 AM EST

                  Just a stupid statement malocchio! Israel is a allie of ours and the only democratic state in the middle east. It's time to start talking about the cost of not stopping Iran, rather than talking about of the cost of stopping it. The price is to high to stand around and not do anything.

                  One example of the high cost of not stopping Iran is that the oil prices will really rise if a nuclear-armed Iran starts blackmailing the world. As well, a nuclear-armed Iran will cause Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other countries in the region to want and aim for nuclear weapons.

                  "With nuclear weapons, Iran could threaten all of us with nuclear terrorism. Think about what it would mean to have nuclear weapons in the hands of those radicals who lead millions of people in chants of death to America and death to Israel."

                  It's time we look at the big picture and stop being ignorant with regimes that want to develop a nuke. The world needs to be a safer place and having madmen with a nuke, will only create havoc.

                    #25.1 - Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:17 PM EST

                    @onesmarcookie1

                    Did you tell that to N.Korea and Pakistan while we were in Iraq. They chant death to America all the time and they actually have nukes and are more than capable of NUCLEAR TERRORISM. Want to stop reliance on foreign oil and gas prices going high? Invest in alternate fuel instead of war, it will cost less. If Isreal want to do a strike on Iran, let them do it. I just don't want the U.S. burden another Middle East war that it can do without.

                    • 1 vote
                    #25.2 - Wed Mar 7, 2012 1:29 AM EST
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