Nine Palestinian women have complained to Israel’s Justice Ministry that they were abused by the Shin Bet, the Israeli security service, while being interrogated, the Haaretz newspaper has reported.
The complaints, submitted Monday through a Israeli human rights group, the Public Committee Against Torture, allege incidents over the last three years in which the women were strip-searched in front of several men, handcuffed and threatened, usually so they would give up information about their husbands. Some said they were not allowed to cover their heads and that interrogators threatened to arrest relatives.
Journalist Isra Salhab said the Shin Bet called her in last November to meet with her husband. who was being questioned.
"They had nothing to ask me. They used me to put pressure on my husband," Salhab told Haaretz. "At a certain point they brought me to see my husband and told him I had children and he should think hard about what he was doing. During the questioning, the interrogator sat close to me and shouted at me not to move," she said.
Salhab's husband, Shadi Zahda, is on trial for his involvement with Hamas, the political party that runs the Gaza Strip.
These arrests were common until 2007, until the Israeli High Court ruled that innocent family members could not be arrested.
The Shin Bet denied the complaints.
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Our US tax dollars at work!
What does this have to do with US tax dollars?
Paul, you are quite gullible to to say the least. First of all, in the case of these 9 poor innocent women, the article seems to omit what their husbands do, except for one guy whos a Hamas member. If I had to bet on it, id say they are either Hamas members or terrorist supporters or worse.
And this is exactly the problem with Westerners not understanding the situation there. "palestinians" are notorious drama queens and love to play the victim card for the camera because they are sure they can manipulate anyone watching. That is exactly why they love shooting rockets from populous areas - because Hamas loves to get their own people killed, the more women and children the better. Now I know, that might confuse a Westerner, but makes total sense to a terrorist. More international sympathy and more recruits, not to mention they're martyrs and are on their way to paradise because they fought the good fight and gave their lives to allah - so its ok.
People need to understand that even to the most moderate "palestinian", the only peace that will ever be achieved is for Israel to disappear - exactly why they never signed a peace treaty and recognized Israel as a Jewish state. They dont want a 2 state solution, or even 67 borders. Matter of fact, Abbas said it himself on Egyptian TV that he wont recognize a Jewish state, and if any "palestinian" leader ever said that he wants peace based on recognition of Israel as a Jewish state it would be political suicide and probably a very physical one as well.
Steve E: You said that Mohammad never stepped foot in Jerusalem. Actually, Mohammad claimed he was taken---through miraclulous means---on a night visit to Jerusalem. I am a Christian and I seriously doubt the accuracy of his claim. However >>>>>>>>>>NUMBER ONE: I certainly cannot disprove it. (Just as they cannot prove it, but that is a different point.) >>>>>>>>NUMBER TWO: If Islam is correct about their claims of a New Prophecy, this miracle would not be any more difficult to achieve by an Omnipotent God than some of the miracles of Jesus, nor some of the miracles recounted in The Torah, centures before the births of Christ or Mohammad. IN ANY CASE, whether they are right or not about that, most---or all--- Muslims sincerely believe this night jouney did, indeed, take place. So their claims to Jerusalem has some validity. However, their insistence on SOLE rights to the city and their insistence on the permanent and total exclusion of the Jews has NO validity whatsoever under The Torah/Old Testament, New Testament, The Quran, the Hadith, nor the decision of the United Nations to divide Jerusalem and the surrounding land among the Palestinians and the Jews. Lest you feel like bringing up that old saw about the UN not having the authority to make that decision, let me remind you that that land had NEVER been under the control of the Palestinians, nor the Jews since the Roman Empire conqured it (also, before the birth of Christ). Upon the fall of The Roman Empire, that land fell into the hands of The Turkish Ottoman Empire. Palistine had been under the control of ye olde Ottoman Empire for many many centures. Said Empire lost said Empire because they were on the losing side in WW I, having backed the Kaiser. >>>>>>>Many Imams also backed Hitler.
I thought torture was always anathema! Is it?
This whole article is suspicious and points to something dragged out of the file to be used .Things from 3 years ago.The credibility of these womwn must at least be subject to extreme scrutiny.One of them is connected to Hamas.Also framing and lying to the infidels who are everyone who isn`t Muslim is also a component.Curious that MSNBCNEWS is highlighting this.They seem to be biased against Israel and want to humilitate it.This should obviously be investigated ..but the tone is suspect.
why does the dumb of the world keep listening to the lies of the Palestinians time and time again they just lie its in their faith to do this and yet the american people just keep believing their BS. first of all the area called Palestine has nothing to do the Palestinians it was named after the philistines in the 4th century and they were Hebrews, bad ones but not even Arabs they were Hebrews every single Palestinian can look up their roots to almost every country around Israel but none came from where Israel sits research it yourself its all BS that we keep buying from these liers. the city of Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in both the christian and the Jewish bibles yet not once in the Koran and when they pray and bow toward mecca their backs are toward Jerusalem why dont you wake up check Mohamed never stepped foot in it
History aside - Israel is a lot larger now than it was 50 years ago - I think that is the problem numnut -
The US people completely support Israel - Americans know nothing about the world just what they see on TV. If this title was written backwards, Israeli women tortured by palestinians this chain would be flooded with support for Israel..
plus if that's your agruments - then the Red Indians Own US and you guys should all come back here to Ireland and the UK.. sigh..
They are lodging their complaint where it will be shelved for sure.
Jaslam
I for one do not support Israel this time around.
If the Israeli leadership really wanted peace they would have come to terms with their neighbors long ago. But all they have done for years now is stick their thumb in their neighbors eyes time and time again. They have taken a hard line for years, and have continued to cause many of their own problems. If how ever Israel were to be invaded or shelled from outside their country like in the 1967 war. Then and only then would I support them.
bob
To Jaslam:
Yes Israel is bigger now than it was. Israel was attacked by several arab nations notably Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. The arab nations lost. In world history what country that won a war particularly one they didn't start ever give back land won in the conflict. That said I do believe that Israel will have to give up the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights to achieve peace. They will never give up Jerusalem
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steve get your head out of your... ok let me be niecer, out of the sand. With all the technology available, it has been proven that israelis are ruthless terrorist. Unlike in the 80's when they can kill innocent civilians at will (i.e. Sabra and Shatilla) and noone wiuld hear of it. They cannot hide it anymore with the cell phone cams and fast internet travelling infos. Stop lying to your self. israel has given us a bad name and we need to stop blindely supporting them and their terrorism...
So you prefer we listen to your BS instead? The Palestinians are a people just like any other people and have a right to live in dignity just like any other people. Some Palestinians are terrorists. This is a Bad Thing. Well, some Americans are terrorists, too. This is also a Bad Thing.
It is obvious you have a deep and abiding and totally unreasoning hatred of the Palestinian people. For those of us who aren't interested in your paranoid fantasies, though, the Palestinians have rights and something needs to be done to make sure they can live in peace - so that they should have nothing to fear from their neighbors, and their neighbors should have nothing to fear from them.
There is nothing in their faith that prevents this. It's all politics.
people never cease to amaze me, this whole crap about there is no palestine, well then they were there before modern day israel. if you wanta go back a couple hundred years there was no america, so?
israel was not attacked when it took the land, israel attacked. current treaties and modern international law prohibit the annexation of land, no other country supports israels borders, why doesnt the us have a treaty with israel? because a treaty would have to include agreed upon borders
as for the pals lying? really? israel is nothing more than a terrorist. look at how they invade their neighbors airspace and take out anything they dont like. or how they just kill anyone who they feel like regardless of where they are. after the way jews were treated by hitler, you would think they would treat others a lot differently than they do
So you are saying just becouse jews lived there 2000 years ago that land belong to jews and not to the people who lived there for the past 2000 years. then the american indians should claim there land back and put us all in buses and ship us out and demolish our houses and farms and everything elese so we don't have a place to come back to just like what the israelis did to 1 million palastinian. take your bs somewhere else.
Steve, you're one the blame-the-victim types then? Palestine (and thereby the palestinians --not sure what point you are actually trying to make here) is named for the philistines who were most likely eastern europeans (greek/agean/cretan etc.) who had indo-european names. They did learn and use (their own version of) the Hebrew alphabet, but that doesn't make them Hebrews. Not sure what Jerusalem (from Ur Shalim--city of the god Shalim) had to do with police harrasing innocent family members.
Israel should come to terms and learn to live with its neighbors????? Really....Really????
How about in your neighborhood the homeowners on all four sides of you yell at you and your family daily, hurl rocks at you when you leave for work. Beat your children up on there way to school. Vandalise your house, break out your windows and shoot at your wife when she steps out of the back door......every day, all year long.
Then you call the police and the cop tells you...."You should learn to get along with your neighbors", like it is all your fault.
Really?? You want an american version of the middle east.......go to 1965 alabama and pretend your a young black family who just bought your first home in the middle of a block occupied and surrounded by racists/bigots and the KKK. You get up and find your car damaged, lawn destroyed and a burning cross in your front yard. You live in fear everyday wondering where the next attack will come from and who in your family will be hurt. They hate you and want to hurt you just because you are there.
Welcome to Israel.
I don't understand what the problem is here? 9 terrorist women over 3 years got stripped searched and handcuffed and OMG threatened?!!!!! They were not allowed to cover their heads?!!!!! WTF?!!!! Why is this even news? Here's a clue bitches. Convince your husbands and their friends to stop trying to murder innocent civilians. You'd get a lot more sympathy from me if there weren't any suicide bombings and the Israelis continued to attack. Until then you can go pound sand.
I missed the part where it said they were terrorist women. Perhaps I was thrown off by the part where Israeli courts ruled they could no longer arrest "INNOCENT" family members in order to secure cooperation from people they were detaining.
Dave - gonna have to disagree with you here... better yet... someone else on newsvine mentioned Israel's pre-emptive attack on egypt... and i made the following analogy:
What if i got thousands of my friends together, armed them all, and stood right at the EDGE of your property line. Then i went on the radio, and tv and even shouted at you from outside of your house and told you that i would murder your family?
(now, i wouldnt do that to dave, because i like him, even if we dont agree all the time)
Would any of you in a situation like that wait to see what those people would do? I doubt it.
@Azrancher.
I've heard some BS before but your's was some of the best.The way you tried to turn the victimizers into the victims was priceless.The truth is,the Israelis go into the Palestinians land,steal it,kick the owners off their land,making them live under a police state, and violate their human rights.Then Israel complains because they fight back.But somehow YOU see the Israelis as the victims.I'd hate to see the case you could make out for the Nazis.
@Svenolofson.
Well really not much I can say to you.Being that much of a racist,you make the KKK look like moderates.
@ Archeim.
If the make believe story you gave was true,you might have something.But even the 1967 Israeli leaders called BS on that.
Bottom line is,until the Israelis stop being racists and accept they can't deny the Palestinians human rights,there will never be Peace in the ME.The root cause of trouble there is the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians.And since we are considered as Israels protector, the hatred rubs off on us. The biggest coming problem for Israel is that, a majority of Americans are beginning to wake up to that. Pretty soon,if the Israelis don't get their act together they will find themselves totally alone.
Its neighbors don't like Israel? Is this because it came into existence by virtue of the British Army that gave land in the Levant that wasn't theirs to give? And they gave it to some people from Brooklyn and Europe? I wonder how come?
Yet again, we are told the Palestinians are evil and manipulative... monsters who use and kill innocents... and that Israel is innocent of any abuses...... their hands are clean, right. I may not be worldly, but I do read, and if Israel is only defending themselves and their borders, how come their borders keep expanding, how come there is no humanitarian relief is allowed to enter Palestine, and who sends assassins into other countries on a regular basis? With absolutely no condemnation from the UN... Do I think either party is innocent? NO...but I do read about the abuses committed by both sides and it really bothers me that our government sends financial aid..... and then we wonder why the Middle East hates America?
The Land that Jesus, was Born,
Jesus, The Son of Mary and Joseph {and GOD},
THAT Land, was *Roman Palestine*
When The Turks ascended to World Power,
The Turk's Empire included ALL The LAND of The "Middle East"
and In The MORE than Half-MILLENNIA that The Turks were Supreme ....
....there was NO Palestine; There was NO Lebanon; There was NO Jordan; There was NO Syria;.....
The Turks Had DIFFERENT DIVISIONS of "Eyalets" and "Villayets",.... Different Land Boundaries....
<><><><>
NOW, in OUR TIME,
WE Have formed different States,
Among The Different States That WERE RECENTLY FORMED....
There WILL BE THREE States that WILL FORM an *Alliance*....SOON....
A *PACT* of The THREE States of The Territory of Traditional *Roman Palestine*
The Kingdom of Jordan; Majority Jordanian Hashemite, Minority Jordanian Sunni
The State of Israel; Majority Israeli Jews, Minority Israeli Sunni, Minority Israeli Christian
The State of Palestine (to BE); Majority Palestinian Sunni, Minority Palestinian Jews.
One State will have a Hashemite Majority
One State will have a Jewish Majority
One State will have a Sunni (Palestinian) Majority
*PACT* of The THREE States of The Territory of Traditional *Roman Palestine*
SWORN by ALL THREE States and ALL THREE Peoples
SWORN by ALL THREE, on The *LIVES of Their CHILDREN*
MUTUAL STRENGTH
MUTUAL BENEFIT
Inshallah
GOD's WILL
That's the problem...Israel knows how to BS sounding truthful. Netanyahu was educated in the US and speaks with very little accent to our ears and understands our culture. Israel stole the land from the Palestini people and rule them. Put yourself in the Palestini peoples' shoes , seriously think of how you would react if someone took your property, your home and your rights.
If Palestinians are just making it up, why are there many Israeli's who protest against the abuse of Palestinians? Yes, many. They say their country has lost is moral compass, has lost the high ground, has lost its soul due to its greed for land and power.
Now they are there, not here in America where people are so brainwashed that they believe Israel is our friend. Or anyone's friend, for that matter.
Journalists from other countries have reported on these atrocities, but Americans just discredit anything against Israel, even when Israel commits acts of war against us and kills our citizens. It's okay if a Jew attacks us, but not an Arab. Wonder why that is....
Well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back in 2007 there was a paper submitted by Isreali left wingers which stated that the IDF did NOT rape Palestinian women because the women were de-humanized in the soldier's eye. The paper won a prize.
The only conclusion to be drawn about Israeli left wingers is that they lie or are insane. There are some people who will twist every word and every event to try an make Israel look bad. They are extremely reliable enemies of Israel.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124674
Some women strip searched?
Happens in America all the time.
So lets have some headlines next time 9 women are strip searched by airport homeland security over the next 3 years.
....IF....The Israelis had "hassled" OR "searched" OR EVEN "touched"
The Palestinian WOMEN....BY....Israeli MEN
then The World WOULD KNOW....!!!!
The Respectable Palestinian WOMEN were "hassled"...."searched"...."touched",
BY Respectable Israeli WOMEN Soldiers.
You must not have read the article where it said," incidents over the last three years in which the women were strip-searched in front of several men,". And no that is not done in the US.Women police officers do the searches in private areas.
Bob,
THINK HARD, My Man....
IF, MALE Israeli Eyes, were to LOOK UPON A Palestinian WOMAN's Body
EVERY PALESTINIAN MALE WOULD BE STORMING THAT "Inspection Station"....!!!!
@mork,
Hi Mork.
That's what the article says the Israeli group said.I've heard that type of thing before.Its not ready something they just started doing.
Bob,
I repeat....
DO You Seriously Think....that IF Israeli Jewish MALES,
were THOUGHT by Palestinian Sunni MALES,
To "touch" or "look" at a Palestinian WOMAN in ANY WAY
that The Palestinian MALES thought was DISRESPECTFUL of Their Palestinian WOMEN
then, THAT *Inspection Station*, Would BE Torn apart, By ALL Palestinian MALES.
NOPE; Not a Chance....ALL Inspections of Palestinian WOMEN, are DONE BY Israeli WOMEN....
The PROOF IS....NO Palestinian MEN "Righteously Stampeding" The Station....
In this country, prisoners and defendants awaiting trial are abused all the time. In DC, women prisoners were strip-searched and humiliated in front of male guards for fun. Rapes by guards are far more common than Americans want to believe. A report on certain police officers revealed that they were forcing women drivers who allegedly committed a traffic violation to strip on the side of the road and walk home naked in the snow or rain. sexual assaults by American police get little play in the newspapers which are all part of the multi-billion dollar prison industry. Enlighten yourself as to the abuses by judges, police, sheriffs, congressman, private corporations, counties, in regard to the new slave industry and human rights abuses right here in the good ol' USA.
rule,
are you describing YOUR Country....?!
....'cause you aren't describing MY Country, The United States !!
<><><><>
however, rule,
Do YOU think, even for a Moment,
That Palestinian MALES,
would NOT Tear Down ANY Israeli *Inspection Station*,
that had Israeli Jewish MALES,
that Had DIS-Respected, in ANY WAY, their Palestinian WOMEN....???? !!!!
IF The Palestinian MALES, Have NOT Torn Apart ANY Israeli *Inspection Station*,
then,
The "Inspections" were PERFORMED with The Palestinian WOMEN and The Israeli WOMEN Soldiers Only.
Steve E-1834860 must be an Israeli Jew. Because only an Israeli would turn the argument from the woman being tortured and humiliated to where people came from or the name of the land. But lets get real. As long as the US says they support them, the Jews will always feel they can do what they want with the Palestinian people. They have NO intention of giving them their own land. And Jaslam is right, if it said Jewish woman tortured there would be a 1000+ comments on this page. But the main stream media is run by Jews so an article like this will never get main stream attention. Just relegated to back pages and internet blogs. We need to STOP supporting the Jews and support human rights. Until that day the Jews will continue to abuse the Palestinians.
JJ
Well PUT !!
The heart of the matter goes back to the days of the Persian Empire and maybe further back than that. All who live in that part of the world have not come out of that era yet. Each is still fighting to be king of the hill, based on religious text and the era when they were in control of the region. An ideological belief and or war is impossible to win. So I say let them have at it and get it over with already.
bob
you don't make any sense at all. what does persian empire has anything to do with the slotter of palstinian by the israelis.
rameshm2
What I have pointed out to you is this . The land has been fought over for centuries and the people who live there still claim it as theirs centuries after they lost it to another group. Their claims are based on ideological beliefs and ancient history. I am a little surprised that Italy ( ROME at that time ) hasn't laid claim to it because they once occupied and controlled it during that time also. And the fight for it goes on today !!!
bob
bob,
EXCELLENT....!!!!
The THREE States comprising The Territory of Traditional *Roman Palestine*
The Kingdom of Jordan;
>Majority Jordanian Hashemite, Minority Jordanian Sunni
The State of Israel;
>Majority Israeli Jews, Minority Israeli Sunni, Minority Israeli Christian
The State of Palestine (to BE);
>Majority Palestinian Sunni, Minority Palestinian Jews
*PACT* of the THREE State, comprising the Territories of *Traditional Roman Palestine*
One State WILL BE, Majority Hashemite;
One State WILL BE, Majority Jewish;
One State WILL BE, Majority Palestinian Sunni:
ALL THREE States, and ALL THREE Peoples,
*SWORN* on The Lives of Their Children
*PACT* of The THREE States of *Roman Palestine*
MUTUAL DEFENSE~MUTUAL BENEFIT
Inshallah
GOD's WILL
None care about the Persians. This Israel stuff happened since 1945. Many of those this Israel affected negatively in '45 are still around.
I'd like to see a video of that strip search stuff....just sayin'....
mind in the gutter...
I'd rather not see it. These women are not attractive. I didn't see them complaining when they were using their homemade bombs to blow up Israeli children.
I think you have it reversed. I didn't think putting your head in sand would revrese the thought process, but I guess it is a new discovery.
Israeli Security will do anything they want regardless of rules or laws of any type. This is nothing new.
Raymond,
USE that Brain of Yours, and THINK,
IF You were a Palestinian MAN,
and YOU and ALL Your Palestinian MEN,
KNEW
about Your Palestinian WOMEN, being "inspected" by OTHER THAN Israeli Women Soldiers,
THEN
ALL The Palestinian MEN
Would ATTACK That *Inspection Station*
For "Insulting" their Palestinian WOMEN, By Israeli MEN.
The FACT IS:
NO Palestinian MEN, have EVER MADE a "Righteous ATTACK" against ANY Israeli "Inspection Station"
Because
ALL Inspections of Palestinian WOMEN,
ALL INSPECTIONS (100%)
Are DONE by Israeli Women Soldiers....!!!!
YOU and SOME here, Cannot BE Palestinian....
because somehow, You are intimating that Palestinian MEN are "wussies" (which they are NOT)
Israeli and Palestinians, MAY CURRENTLY be Enemies,
but,
NEITHER are "wussies".
AHH our tax dollars at work. The true colors of the terrorist state of israel. israel kills 34 of our sailors on the USS Liberty and our lawmakers brush it under the rug for fear of not being reelected if they speak against israel. That's called political prostitution. Last I checked we were called the United States of America and not of israhell...
26 FEB 91 nine british soldiers killed and 11 injured when accidently fired on by American a-10 aircraft.
27 FEB 91 two british soldiers injured when their armored veh was fired on by american Marine A1 abrahams.
05 DEC 06 British Marine shot and killed by fire from an american F-18 aircraft.
23 AUG 07 Three british soldiers killed, one wounded by bomb dropped from american f-15 aircraft.
23 MAR 03 british tornado jet shot down by american patriot missile.
06 APR 03 BBC editor and crew injured, 15 others killed when american F-15 bombed a american special forces convoy.
11 APR 11 US MArine & Navy Corpsman killed by accident in american predator drone attack.
08 JUN 67 Israeli planes fire rockets hitting american war ship USS Liberty.
Israel (IDF) has not had any friendly fire incidents involving america since. They also paid over 6 million in compensation and took responsibility for the accident.
So if your throwing rocks based on a 44 year old incident.......I would say we are far worse when it comes to friendly fire accidents. The few I noted were since 1990, care to see how bad we are since 1967???
In combat accidents tragically occur, so again your point is ........????????
Azrancher, the point is that this is not limited to "tragic combat accidents". Israeli spies on more than one occasion have been caught inside the US gathering intelligence and it barely makes the news. When it does it's quickly swept under the rug so that the American public forget that it happened before anyone can speak out against it. Of course, our puppet politicians would not dare to mention this as it would mean political suicide. There would then be the reflexive "anti-Semitic" accusations that follow any criticism of Israel. But what do you expect when one of the largest most powerful lobbies in this country (AIPAC) puts the interest of another country before its own. If you proceed to downplay the significance of their influence in American politics just ask yourself a few questions. If they have no power why is the President of the United States as is each and every Republican candidate obligated to speak at their convention? Are these heads and future heads of state required to speak at the Japanese, Irish, British or Australian lobby equivalents? Oh wait these don't exist. That fact in itself is cause for reflection
Torture?? Seriously? Did they make mean faces at them too?? Isreal is subjected to bombings daily. I guess they should just ask nicely and see if the fine upstanding terrorist will provide the needed information? Not allowed to wear a veil?? Shouted at them?? This is why crime has become rampant in the USA. We treat known suspects as if they were kids going into the principals office.
@rlb1130,
I'm with you man.We need to emulate the Shin Bet methods during the Intifada.After all you grab a bunch of the kids and beat them good.You know those kids bones break pretty easy,especially the little kids.Just ask the Shin Bet,they can clue you in.(said with immense sarcasm)
Israel must do what is necessary to secure its land and protect its people. unlike the U.S. that would bend over backwards to defend terrorist and bow down to enemies just for a vote from that ethnic group.
"unlike the U.S. that would bend over backwards to defend terrorist and bow down to enemies just for a vote from that ethnic group."
Man,have you got that backwards.Its the Jewish lobby that our politicians suck up to for votes.
Awwww. They sat next to her and yelled at her. Apparently, she still has all her fingers and toes, both eyes and a big mouth to match. She has no bruises, cuts or marks of any kind. Such abuse!
Would you rather be questioned/arrested/detained by Israelis or Palestinians?
Why has Hillary Clinton not spoken out against the crimes committed by Israel ? Oh that's right, she is depositing her AIPAC check in the bank. Silence for recycled US tax dollars ???
malocchio, where are you concerning Syrian crimes and torture? I forgot, they're still members of the UN hUman rights Commission. Or is your indignation reserved for Israel only? Good old double standards again.
The palestinians teach their children to HATE. It is part of their culture to HATE. Look at the tv they watch it is sick. These RADICAL mooslums need to go back to lebanon where they came from.
@Dave,
From what I see on these boards its part of the Zionist culture to hate.As for going to Lebanon,were you trying to be funny.The Palestinians are the native population of the land.Maybe you Zionists "need to go back to Europe where they come from. "
Israel rules it is wrong to arrest innocent families of terror suspects......
Palestinians rule it is OK to bomb and kill innocent families......
Who are the problems here again????????
Totally biased article. The only statement "Hamas, the political party that runs the Gaza Strip" is enough to give out the intent and agenda of the author. Hamas is recognized by the whole civilized world as a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION, it's not a political party. A political party armed with mortars and missiles is not a political party period.
Shame on MSNBC for publishing it.
That statement alone speaks volume about the worth of the rest of the article. The key word of the headline is "alleged", even MSNBC doubts the allegations, otherwise it would use a more definitive word such as "proven".
We need a few articles interviewing women who were incarcerated (and why) in Gaza or any other muslim dominated area.
This article doesnt mention that the men were behind a screen, armed to provide back-up to the women conducting the search.
I didn't see them complaining when they were using their homemade bombs to blow up Israeli children.
Incredible, the number of people who will support the Israelis without even thinking about the case or evidence. I guess when Israel attacked and killed 43 of our sailors on the USS Liberty in their 1967 war, we were being terrorists? And our coward president and Navy told the survivors to keep quiet, nothing happened - (guess the dead sailors must have all succumbed to scurvy or committed suicide).
Israel is nobody's friend - they only use people for what they can get. Of course, don't put any haloes on the Arabs - they and the Israelis are branches off the same corrupt trunk.
26 FEB 91 nine british soldiers killed and 11 injured when accidently fired on by American a-10 aircraft.
27 FEB 91 two british soldiers injured when their armored veh was fired on by american Marine A1 abrahams.
05 DEC 06 British Marine shot and killed by fire from an american F-18 aircraft.
23 AUG 07 Three british soldiers killed, one wounded by bomb dropped from american f-15 aircraft.
23 MAR 03 british tornado jet shot down by american patriot missile.
06 APR 03 BBC editor and crew injured, 15 others killed when american F-15 bombed a american special forces convoy.
11 APR 11 US MArine & Navy Corpsman killed by accident in american predator drone attack.
08 JUN 67 Israeli planes fire rockets hitting american war ship USS Liberty.
Israel (IDF) has not had any friendly fire incidents involving america since. They also paid over 6 million in compensation and took responsibility for the accident.
So if your throwing rocks based on a 44 year old incident.......I would say we are far worse when it comes to friendly fire accidents. The few I noted were since 1990, care to see how bad we are since 1967???
In combat accidents tragically occur, so again your point is ........????????
@Azrancher
Logic seems to be fairly ineffective on the USS Liberty 'truthers', but your efforts are commendable nonetheless.
Remember the Liberty !
Lee,
remember US Ambassador Cleo Noel, US Charge d'Affaires George Moore, and Belgian Guy Eid gunned down by Black September Palestinian terrorists in the basement of the Saudi embassy in Khartoum March 1, 1973 under orders from Yasser Arafat?
Everyone insisting on remembering and particular interpretation of USS Liberty finds it convenient to forget USS Cole.
Yeah kind of the way you conveniently forget that Israel is the only Middle Eastern country with nuclear weapons while you accuse Iran of trying to develop nukes and threaten military action. Or like the way you find it convenient to point out how many Israeli children have been killed by Palestinian suicide bombers but forget to include the fact that at least 10 times as many Palestinian children have been killed by Israel.
@Hdgator
Do you ever wonder why all of those civilians wind up being killed or do you just assume it's b/c every single member of the IDF is out to kill as many Palestinian and Lebanese civilians as humanly possible? If you're going to support the Palestinians, at least have the decency and self respect to lay an equal, if not vastly greater, share of the blame on groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
"Everyone insisting on remembering and particular interpretation of USS Liberty finds it convenient to forget USS Cole."
Well,the only things they have in common are,they were both USN Ships,and both group of attackers knew they were attacking an American ship.
The differences are more numerous.More Americans died in the Israeli attack on the Liberty.Less Americans died on the Al Qaeda attack on the Cole.
For political reasons we white-washed the guilt on the Liberty attack.While we fully exposed the guilt on the Cole attack.
The Liberty was knowingly attacked by a nation state Israel.While the Cole was attacked by a non-nation state terrorist gang.
Israel,while calling themselves our ally attacked the Liberty.While Al Qaeda calling themselves our enemy attacked the Cole.
We give the attacker of the Liberty,Israel,3 billion a year in aid.We give the attacker of the Cole,Al Qaeda,no aid money.But instead spend money fighting them.
And the last difference is,Pro-Israel Americans always try to give Israel a pass for attacking the Liberty.While all Americans want Al Qaeda destroyed,for attacking the Cole (among other reasons).
Hope that shows you the differences between the two crimes.
Iran Has PROMISED, and The Iranians DO NOT LIE (do THEY??!!)
that Iran's Armed Forces will Blockade The Strait of Hormuz....
....
The WEST and The People of The WEST, are in NEED of The Steady Supply of Oil....
IF, Iran is Telling The TRUTH (this time), then, The Iranian "Blockade" MUST BE BROKEN....!!
....and WILL BE BROKEN....!!!!
The Ayatollah KHOMEINI was a *Bright Light*, This New Ayatollah Khameni, is a *Dim Bulb*
The Poor Iranian Navy....
How MANY Iranian Ships Will Be Sunk (?)
Before Iran's Shi'a, Accept Defeat ??!!
UNLESS, of Course, the Persians are merely "Hot Air" ?? !
We'll KNOW SOON !!!!
Don't believe everything you read.....
idf and shin bet are terrorist outfits and their members assult (if not sexually) poor Palestinian women at will and get away.
Zionist apologists will defend their hideous behaviour with all sort of excuses.
Jawohl Herr von Dorf!
I would not be surprised one bit if it was true.
Anything can be expected from "the only democratic" country in the mideast..
Speaking of justifying pre-emptive strike intentions of israel:
How would the jews react if US gov says financial crimes are committed by mostly jews, therefore we will audit the jews in WS and elsewhere in a regular basis?
The argument is, rightfully, we can stop many schemes before it gets big., therefore protecting the general public.
@ yudl2,
Really a lot of people can walk and chew gum at the same time. If someone condemns the Gestapo that doesn't mean they liked the KGB. If someone condemns Israels actions doesn't mean they approve of Syria's. A lot of posters can multi-task on these boards.
....and we know why these Arab *leaders*, and their Arab supporters of all these many Arab States,
are having their "butts kicked", by their own Arab people....
!!!!
If Israel blew up or if Israel won the lottery and headed for Monaco, either way it makes no difference. Israel and its petty stuff doesn't even make the TV news outside the big cities. No-one in Altoona really cares.
"Bottom line is,until the Israelis stop being racists and accept they can't deny the Palestinians human rights,there will never be Peace in the ME.The root cause of trouble there is the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians"
What a bunch of CR_P. The Palestinians and the Jews are both Semites. You can't be prejudice against yourself. The root cause is the Palestinains will not accept Israel's right to exist!!!
What a bunch of cr_p. Palestinians do accept israel's right to exist!!!
The root cause is isarel is being controlled and governed by zionist despots who have no wish to live in peace with her neighbours, but engage in a racist policy towards Palestinians with plunder and stealing neighbours' land. Not to mention subjugate Palestinians to oppression, suffering and human indignity.
Israeli *Citizens*, can be counted ALL, to be Loyal Israelis,
and 20% of ALL Israelis, ARE Israeli Sunni Arabs....
LOYAL Israeli Arabs....
The Israeli Druze, a Shi'a Sect, are ALSO, LOYAL Israelis
The Israeli Bedouin are ALSO, LOYAL Israelis
There ARE Kibbutniks, that ARE Druze, and ARE Bedouins; ALL are LOYAL Israelis.
....and ALL will DEFEND their Country Israel, with their Fellow Israelis,
Against ALL ENEMIES....!!!!