World powers to Iran: Open Parchin military site to IAEA inspectors

VIENNA -- Six world powers called on Iran on Thursday to let international inspectors visit the Parchin military site where the U.N. nuclear watchdog says development work relevant to nuclear weapons may have taken place.

In a joint statement at a board meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the powers also voiced "regret" about Iran's stepped-up campaign to enrich uranium - activity which can have both civilian and military purposes.


"We urge Iran to fulfill its undertaking to grant access to Parchin," the statement said, referring to the military facility southeast of Tehran. Iran refused access to the complex during two rounds of talks with a senior IAEA team earlier this year.

Western diplomats suspect the Islamic state may now be trying to clean up the site to remove evidence of research with nuclear applications before possibly allowing inspectors in.

Iran asks to resume nuclear talks after year of impasse

The six powers handling the Iran nuclear issue are the United States, China, Russia, France, Germany and Britain.

An IAEA report last year revealed a trove of intelligence pointing to research activities in Iran of use in developing the means and technologies needed to assemble nuclear weapons, should it decide to do so.

One salient finding was information that Iran had built a large containment chamber at Parchin in which to conduct high-explosives tests that the IAEA said are "strong indicators of possible weapon development".

At schools, in shops, and on the streets of big cities and small towns, daily life plays out in Iran.

Stalling tactics
Iran, which says its nuclear program is purely for peaceful purposes, has dismissed intelligence reports suggesting it has a nuclear weapons agenda as forged and baseless.

It has suggested that the IAEA could get access to Parchin, but only after a broader deal is reached on how to address all outstanding issues between Tehran and the Vienna-based agency - an approach Western diplomats dismissed as a stalling tactic.

Iran says it will let UN nuclear sleuths visit key military site

The world powers' statement, agreed after intensive discussions within the often disunited group, also voiced backing for efforts to find a diplomatic solution to the long-running row.

Israel and the United States have threatened Iran with military strikes as a last-ditch way to stop it getting nuclear weapons.

The European Union's foreign policy chief, who represents the powers in dealings with Iran, said on Tuesday they had accepted Iran's offer to return to talks after a standstill of a year that seen increasingly bellicose rhetoric.

"We ... reaffirm our continuing support for a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear issue and readiness to restart dialogue with Iran," the powers said in their statement, read out by China's envoy to the IAEA at the closed-door meeting.

"We call on Iran to enter, without preconditions, into a sustained process of serious dialogue which will produce concrete results." Iran has refused at previous talks to negotiate on the future of its nuclear activity.

On Thursday, an Israeli official said Israel has asked the United States for advanced "bunker-buster" bombs and refueling planes that could improve its ability to attack Iran's underground nuclear sites.

"Such a request was made" around the time of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to Washington this week, the official said, confirming media reports.

But the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity given the sensitivity of the issue, played down as "unrealistic" reports that the United States would condition supplying the hardware on Israel promising not to attack Iran this year.

Netanyahu told Obama at a White House meeting on Monday that Israel had not yet decided on military action against Iran, sources close to the talks said.

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Note to the UN: I'm tired of hearing about the pregnancy. Show me a baby.

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#1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 8:03 AM EST

When they can find a "baby", it's already too late by that time. They don't need to create a "weapon", all they need is the radioactive material. UPS or Fedex will deliver it to NJ overnight for about $45 and some radical Al Qaeda operative will sign for it and follow the enclosed instructions.

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#1.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 8:51 AM EST

All Iran has to do to stop this madness is let the inspectors go wherever they want. That's it. Might be a bit embarrassing for them as a country and they may feel a little trampled on, but it's a small price to pay to end this.

Iran maintains they aren't developing nuclear weapons. So prove it. Or do they have something to hide besides their wounded pride?

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#1.2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:03 AM EST

Hello folks, The same request should be made to Israel. The middle east sees the double standard imposed on their countries verse those of the west and their allies. Let's get everything and everyone out in the open.

Israel says they don't have nuclear weapons, so prove it! Or do they have something to hide besides their wounded pride?

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#1.3 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:48 AM EST

Israel doesn't say one way or the other if they have nuclear weapons, nor are they members of the NPT like Iran, nor has Israel claimed a nuclear program for peaceful purposes.

This isn't about Israel; it's about Iran. I would be more worried about Pakistan's arsenal than Israel's.

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#1.4 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:52 AM EST

Why would any Sovereign Nation even consider something like that. Along with every country in the world, they have secrets.

Iran maintains they aren't developing nuclear weapons. So prove it Open your eyes and read between the lines,, at this point, Iran, like Iraq could open every trapdoor they have, and they still wouldn't be considered to be telling the truth, or have in fact opened every door, Why? Simple,, the west believes they are hiding something, End of story.

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#1.5 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:57 AM EST
Comment author avatarInsurance man: DavidExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Who cares what a known murderer of innocent civilians says or does. The Jewish parasites want to dominate the Arab world and the great Satan is right behind them trying to help make the Middle East safe for the United Snakes (US/Israel). Fortunately, the Taliban has shown the world that these low life aggressors can be bitch (((slapped))) as they are currently 'suing them for peace' and desperate to get that Tasmanian devil off there bloodied butts!!!! Remember, Iran has not attecked anyone in 200 years - can the US/Israel baby killers say the same? Nope, you don't have to answer that one Pilgrim.

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#1.6 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:04 AM EST

Israel has a huge nuclear arsenal and yet refuse any access to information about their programs - perhaps we should consider taking military action against them.

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#1.7 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:09 AM EST

Why would any Sovereign Nation even consider something like that. Along with every country in the world, they have secrets.

Because they are required to, just as we are, and Russia. and everyone else who's signed the NPT. If they want to avoid those requirements, they need to withdraw from the treaty. That wouldn't look good for their claims of peacefulness however.

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#1.8 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:09 AM EST

Hummmmmmmmmm ... The last time I checked Iran was a sovereign nation .. not belonging to anyone. Their neighbor, Israel is not harassed by the world about having a "bomb" .... Why should they be?

Does the world get to choose who has the most powerful weapons of war? Because Iran is bellicose & stirs up trouble & abuses human rights, are they different then other nations in the area? lol .. I think not ...

Left alone their own people will eventually overthrow the radical government, just as the Syarians are trying to do .... this is all about posturing in a election year on both sides.. Let this people solve their problems internally & diplomatically .. civil war happens, and some times the worst people win, thats the breaks

Scarey if they get a bomb ... maybe ... But MAD works ... unless your dealing with crazies ... which the whole area has its share ..

Can you even imagine what the response would be if the Iranians used a nuke on one of their neighbors? Iran would be "Toasted" immediately ... This is old technology that dangerous, but the new warfare is economic & electronic (computers) ..thats where you had better watch out for ... it's unseen and been happening for years ... and we are to fat, dumb, and ignorant to even understand ...

your swatting at "piss ants" will the "tiger" creeps up on you in the grass ... your being distracted, and it's going to cost us dearly ..

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#1.9 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:17 AM EST

@AG99

Israel doesn't say one way or the other if they have nuclear weapons, nor are they members of the NPT like Iran, nor has Israel claimed a nuclear program for peaceful purposes.

Using that logic, what your saying is none of this crap would be going on had Iran just simply dropped out of the NPT then do whatever they want so long as they never claim to have a nuclear program for peaceful purposes or otherwise and when asked if they have any nuclear wepons just shrug their sholders and say nothing.. hmm

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#1.10 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:22 AM EST

Because they are required to, just as we are, and Russia. and everyone else who's signed the NPT.

That could be very well true, I'm not going to waste my time to verify it simply because if it is true, that would only stand for the weakest members, and you know it.. lmfao Could you imagine the United States opening all their books along with every facility they operate to foreign inspectors,oh lets say the majority of them coming from China & Russia ,, Like that would ever happen.

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#1.11 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:38 AM EST

The US and Israel are not threatening to wipe anyone out. IRAN IS! This is why everyone is pissed off at IRAN. They chant DEATH TO AMERICA AND ISRAEL! Why no one has stepped in to take out their government is beyond our control. We just have to wait it out, just like 9/11. Remeber Bin Laden placed multiple attacks against the US, it wasnt until 9/11 happened that we finally stepped in and went to war with IRAQ??? What did we find in IRAQ? NOTHING. They probably sold all their crap to IRAN before we got there.

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#1.12 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 12:16 PM EST
  1. EVERY nuclear EXPERT (which none of us are), ALL say that IF IRAN gets a nuke, there will be an arms race in the most UNSTABLE part of the world (the middle east).
  2. IRAN signed up for NPT and by doing so is legally bound to honor that agreement - instead they have been lying for 10+yrs buying time as they build a nuclear program for "peace" yet they don't let inspectors in and they build it hundreds of feet below granite (if it looks like a pig and smells like a pig and sounds like a pig, it's a PIG. As such it's up to IRAN to prove otherwise).
  3. Israel has nukes BUT they are surrounded by Arab nations that HATE them and as such there has been a balance of power in that area (like one guy having a gun surrounded by 8 that have knives, it's been a pretty good standoff to this point).
  4. Iran and thier crazy leaders don't need a nuke. We have already seen when an insane leader is like with a nuke (see Kim in North Korea).
  5. Israel has NEVER said they will wipe a nation or Iran off the map as Iran has said about Israel (twice).
  6. Israel isn't sponsoring terrorists in nations all over the world though they have been knocking off scientist from Iran (they have been hoping that would work rather than dropping bombs on Iran).
  7. The crazy leaders of Iran not only believe in an Armageddon like most Christians and Jews do, they actually look forward to being the start of these last days.
  8. When the USA and Russia are dumping hundreds and thousands of nukes, we don't need another Pakistan or N Korea type country getting a nuke.
  9. Israel would ONLY bomb Iran if Iran continues to build a nuke and it is akin to Cuba putting missiles in their Country so close to the USA. It will NOT happen without inciting a war and much destruction. And history shows the USA has not attacked Cuba nor has Cuba attacked the USA.
  10. Crazy people that write and make speaches about destroying a people or a race was done in the 30's by Hitler and once he had his war machine he did what he said he would do. The world WILL NOT make that mistake again specific to Iran.
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#1.13 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 12:31 PM EST

WOW! Now we hear that Obama and his administration is offering Israel advanced weapons to blow up Iran's nuclear sites as long as they wait until after the elections. Of course, if Israel agrees to wait then they have to do everything in their power to get Obama elected so they actually get the weapons. That means Israel getting the Jewish-American block to vote for Obama.

I smell the stink of Quid Pro Quo wafting out of that sewer of a White House.

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#1.14 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST

EndGame: Your own logic seems to supplant mine. I was outlining why Iran is required to open their plants to inspection under the NPT. If they withdrew from that treaty, it would be seen as confirmation of their intent to develop weapons (regardless of whether that's true or not). The pressure from other nations wouldn't go away, but it would change focus from inspections to more sanctions and possibly attack.

As for inspecting our sites, the USSR had unlimited access to verify arms reductions under various treaties. Can't remember what the program was called, but if a Soviet inspector wanted access to any nuclear facility, including military bases, we were required to grant it immediately.

The IAEA is also allowed to inspect any nuclear plant in order to document its nuclear signature. If we gave a nuke to someone who detonated it, they can identify which plant the isotopes came from. This is the whole point of inspections.

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#1.15 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:46 PM EST

Mr RPM - Your post is full of lies and half truths.

For one thing, IAEA inspectors are and have been monitoring Iran's nuclear enrichment for quite some time, whereas they have never even seen Israel's nuclear weapons. Why is it not Israel's possession of nukes that creates an arms race? Israel is crazier than all the Arab nations combined.

Iran is placing their sites deep underground to protect them from an Israeli attack. You do know that Israel has been threatening to attack Iran for the past 10 years, do you not?

All of our intelligence agencies have said Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. What information do you have, that they do not?

In a recent interview with CNN, Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey said he believed the Iranian regime was a "rational actor" when it comes to the nuclear program. Dempsey said Iran would likely weigh the ultimate costs and benefits of building a nuclear weapon before doing so. James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, recently told a Senate panel that a decision had not yet been made by the regime in Tehran.

Read this: If one day, Iran decides to cut its cooperation with the IAEA, it would make it easier to use such a site to make a bomb, but it's in the long term," said Meir Javedanfar, an analyst and lecturer on Iranian issues at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, Israel. "In the short term, I don't think Israel has too much to worry about because the site is still under inspection.

I posted my proof, lets see your proof. Bet ypou can't. Perhaps you should think twice before posting on topics about which you have no knowledge.

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#1.16 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:57 PM EST

Ralph, if you truly believe that Iran is not developing a Nuke, you are truly 'delusional'.

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#1.17 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:08 PM EST

I stand by my comments Ralph! In these times it's hard to totally trust the US gov. or Israels gov. for that matter. It's harder to trust Russia's and China's but it's damn near impossible to trust Iran and North Korea. And based on how many "approvals" my post has received compared to yours, I think most sane folks think similarly. Iran is considered a threat not only by Israel and America but even the Saudi's and Truks. While they are Arab/Muslim countries they do not want Iran to have a nuke either. And even the left leaning MSNBC and CNN nuclear experts say there will be an arms race in the middle east if Iran gets a nuke. if they have nothing to hide WHY do they keep kicking inspectors out? Moreover Israel is NOT part of the NPT but Iran signed it of their own free will. You can hate the West, you can hate America, you can hate Israel and Jews Sir but you cannot deny those facts!

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#1.18 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:29 PM EST

Mr RPM, I agree with you 100%! Good post. Those of us who have been posting on Newsvine for a while have come to give very little credence to Ralph's views on Middle Eastern affairs as he is known to be rabidly anti-Israel in his views and will interject his anti-Israel bias no matter what country is being discussed. Any who do not agree with him or his views are labeled by him as evil Zionists or Zionist supporters!

Ralph, by the way I read your four links you presented earlier today on the Pakistan article. All were either by or had substantial input from Lyndon La Rrouche who is also as racist and anti-Semite as they come! The links were a joke with nothing to substantiate the views presented!

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#1.19 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:42 PM EST

If Lyndon Larouche says the sky is blue, the sky could still be blue. Lyndon LaRouche speaks about what the necons have done and their connection to the Likud government of Israel. The links show the neocons convinced the Sharon government and Netanyahu to give up the Oslo accords and "land for peace", because they wanted to use American power, soldiers and money to expand Israel's influence in the ME by removing Israel's enemies one by one, evict the Palestiniuans and keep all the land they stole. They accomplished a portion of their goal by getting into high ranking jobs in the US Pentagon and building their case for war, all based on lies. What statements in the links do you find inaccurate?

Lyndon La Rouche is simply aware that Israel's leaders are war mongering , thieves and back stabbing bullies, that suck off of the American taxpayer and start wars. He is concerned that these action will someday bankrupt the US, while Israel keeps getting their yearly stipend.

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#1.20 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:06 PM EST

Zathrose, it appears reading comprehension doesn't come easy for you. The article stated: "But the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity given the sensitivity of the issue, played down as "unrealistic" reports that the United States would condition supplying the hardware on Israel promising not to attack Iran this year." You "heard"

"... that Obama and his administration is offering Israel advanced weapons to blow up Iran's nuclear sites as long as they wait until after the elections. Of course, if Israel agrees to wait then they have to do everything in their power to get Obama elected so they actually get the weapons. That means Israel getting the Jewish-American block to vote for Obama.

I smell the stink of Quid Pro Quo wafting out of that sewer of a White House."

That is NOT what the article said!!! It's no wonder you righties spew out false information -- you can't comprehend what you are reading!! LOL

If you can site credible sources for what you "heard", I'll certainly take them into consideration. Without credible sources, your opinion and what you've "heard" are just those -- opinion and hearsay. They are NOT facts!!!

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#1.21 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:48 PM EST

@rpm

Your post is full of cr_p, akin to propaganda from israel misinformation department.

How much did you get paid by your zionist master?

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#1.22 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:15 PM EST

Ralph, I disagreed with the majority of statements made as they were blanket statements made by individuals with no credible news sources or official sources stated. Based on that, I stand by what I posted. I would not trust LaRouche to walk my dog let alone believe a racist like him! But we digress as this article once again is not about Israel, but Iran.

Hey Heinrich, I got a better question. How much did you get paid by yours in Iran?

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#1.23 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 6:28 PM EST

When Zionists don't like what someone says about israel, they just call them anti semetic, racists and other names.

I repeat what I posted to RPM. Iran's nuclear enrichment sires have been and are now under inspection by the IAEA. I also prefer to believe the findings of the US intelligence agencies over those of Israel.

Though Israel had secretly done business with the Islamic Republic after the 1979 revolution, seeking to cultivate a Persian wedge against its local Arab enemies, the early 1990s saw a concerted effort by Tel Aviv to portray Iran as a new and existential threat.

1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front headed by the US."

1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres tells French TV that Iran was set to have nuclear warheads by 1999. "Iran is the greatest threat and greatest problem in the Middle East," Peres warned, "because it seeks the nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious militancy."

1992: Joseph Alpher, a former official of Israel's Mossad spy agency, says "Iran has to be identified as Enemy No. 1." Iran's nascent nuclear program, he told The New York Times, "really gives Israel the jitters."

Gee Ed, it appears Israel was grossly exaggerating or else their intelligence agencies really suck.

1992: Leaked copy of the Pentagon's "Defense Strategy for the 1990s" makes little reference to Iran, despite laying out seven scenarios for potential future conflict that stretch from Iraq to North Korea.

Looks like the US had it right then and today they are saying Iran is not a threat to have a nuclear weapon at any time soon.

February 2011: National intelligence director James Clapper affirms in testimony before Congress that “Iran is keeping the option open to develop nuclear weapons in part by developing various nuclear capabilities and better position it to produce such weapons, should it choose to do so," Mr. Clapper said. "We do not know, however, if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons."

I guess Mr Clapper must be anti semetic, because his views and that of our US Intelligence agencies are contrary to the war mongering propaganda coming from Nutanyahu.

Imagine attacking a country and risking a world wide conflagration, because you think that one day they might decide to have a nuclear weapons program. That is the definition of pure evil.

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#1.24 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:38 PM EST

If you are trying to state that I said you were anti-Semitic, please state where. I specifically stated you were anti-Israel. It was Lyndon LaRouche I called anti-Semitic, not you. And again, anyone who does not agree with your point of view are always labeled Zionists. Makes a lot of us wonder if you even really know what the term means. You have proved you have an innate ability to post comments taken totally out of context, but you still cannot provide proof of official sources. And once again you still cannot get it through your head that the article is about Iran, not Israel! You and I are never going to agree, so I see no sense in taking this any farther.

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#1.25 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:04 PM EST

Ed-doc

As much as you get paid by your zionist master.

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#1.26 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 5:14 AM EST

As I do not particularly care for the Israeli governments policies, I can truthfully say do not have one. Your statements, however make you questionable.

And by the way. My descriptions of Ralph's views regarding his hatred of and anti-Israel views obviously apply to you as well. Therefore, you do not warrant any further discussion either! Have a nice day.

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#1.27 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 9:05 AM EST

It's a little hard to take any poster seriously when they start using words like Zionist.

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#1.28 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 9:26 AM EST

AG99, I agree wholeheartedly.

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#1.29 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 10:47 AM EST

Dear MP. RPM, you referred is the way one of the rulers finish badly. As an expert on the history of World War II I was very surprised by the statements of the American Nobel laureate of peace and accusations from one of Mrs. American, because it is strongly reminiscent of the statements and accusations of a leader you mentioned. Following the statements the entire world is fears USA and not Iran and not North Korea.

Pardon my English.

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#1.30 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 11:56 AM EST

Ed - When you call Lyndon LaRouche anti Semitic, you are falling back on the same tired rhetoric of Zionists everywhere. You don't know what LaRouche thinks, anymore than you know what I think, other than we both despise the actions of Israel and have studied them enough to base our opinions on facts.

There is a huge difference between a Jew and a Zionist. All Jews are not Zionists and all Zionists are not Jews, although most of them are Jews. It is my informed opinion that most, if not all Zionists are Israeli firsters, who would sell America down the drain, if they thought there were benefits for Israel.

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#1.31 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:03 PM EST

Pardon. Not "one of Mrs. American", but "one American missis"

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#1.32 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:05 PM EST

Ralph, thank you for continuing to prove my point regarding your use of the term Zionist. If you wish to consider me and /or call me Zionist go right ahead. It means absolutely nothing and I just laugh all the more. You just keep burying yourself deeper and deeper and look more foolish at the same time. It just flat out seems to tick you off that others do not agree with you, doesn't it? So your way to get back is to resort to name calling. Real adult attitude there. This conversation is over as I would rather discuss things with rational adults.

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#1.33 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:15 PM EST

The Jewish parasites want to dominate the Arab world and the great Satan is right behind them trying to help make the Middle East safe for the United Snakes (US/Israel).

Insurance man: David, you are suspended for a week for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.

Don't make anti-Semitic remarks, please.

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#1.34 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:48 PM EST

Ed Doc

It is the policy and actions of israel government under the control of warmongering zionist bigots that righteous people find them reputnant. Disapproval of israel policy does not equate to israel or jew hating.

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#1.35 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 6:17 PM EST

Heinrich

While I actually agree with your first sentence, the second one is open to question with some people. The majority of my dispute with Ralph is that disagreement with his views today and in the past does not equate to being a Zionist or having Zionist beliefs, of which I profess neither but he still continues to refer to me as such, simply because I do not agree with him. I do in fact detest many of Israels policies, but they are directed solely toward the government and not the people of Israel. In my comment to you in #1.23 above I responded with emotion and not with brains and for that I apologize. I am human and make mistakes and when I do, I own up to them. But I still stand by my views and statements regarding Ralph's comments and neither he nor I are going to change. So it is better to just drop this here and now. Have a nice evening.

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#1.36 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 8:53 PM EST
Reply

Israel's drumming the war path again huh. Been sending your ministers around the world for support huh?

Go at Iran alone and leave the rest of the world out of it. Have done at it!

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#2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 8:18 AM EST

So D, you don't care if Iran gets a nuke? What happens when they do? All the other countries in the region will want to have one which will increase the chance of a weapon getting into the wrong hands. The worst outcome will be either Iran, as they have said many times, will use it to destroy Israel, or give it to terrorists to bring to the US? What then? You blame Isreal for being concerned about their security, but you don't believe Iran is a threat to Israel?

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#2.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 8:27 AM EST

Pakistan has gone nuclear and they sheltered Osama Bin Laden.

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#2.2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 8:42 AM EST

@ NJ John....exactly right. I don't think Iran or Israel would survive if Iran decided to bomb Israel. The real problem lies in that Iran could easily bomb other US interests (afghanistan for one), or our allies in the region. They also could sell weapons to terrorists.

@sacombs2...Pakistan has nukes because India does. Both countries have had an arms race since roughly 1998. The US has a military strategy to secure the Pakistan nuclear facilities in case that government would fall. With the way we handled the capture of of Bin Laden, I don't doubt that we couldn't secure all of their nukes.

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#2.3 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:05 AM EST

Scare and war mongers: just wait and watch. Paki nukes will be avialable on sale or for grabbings!

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#2.4 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:19 AM EST

No mention on MSN about Obama trying to bribe Israel with advanced weapons systems if they wait until after the election to strike Iran. Nothing like thinking about yourself first and your allies second. Seems as if Obama is trying to make is lack of Middle East success look good for the general election. As if Israel will fall for that ploy, they don't trust Obama and having anyone else in the White House come 2013 will be better for them.

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#2.5 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:20 AM EST

Rick, Israel isn't an ally, they are an interest. Don't make the dangerous mistake of confusing the two.

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#2.6 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:28 AM EST

@Toasty - I absolutely agree with your statement.

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#2.7 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:40 AM EST
Comment author avatarInsurance man: DavidExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Cowardly parasite Jews of Israel, used to attacking and murdering basically unarmed innocent civilians in Palestine and Lebanon they don't have the 'huevos' to go at it alone with Iran's military (Without the Great Satan near-by holding their hand in case they 'bite off more than they can chew') - or any country that has a trained and well armed military. Let us hope Syria and Iran let's loose with their IRBM's loaded with Sarin and Nerve gas. These gutless wonder Jews need to be taught 'how the other side lives - KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

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#2.8 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:11 AM EST

As reported on November 30, 2011 by ABC News:

“Obviously, no ally is more important than the state of Israel,” Obama said.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/obama-tells-jewish-donors-no-ally-more-important-than-israel/

But as both Toasty McGrath and mtnbikerZom point out there is little reason to trust anything Obama says when it comes to Israel. As an interest the Liberals on the left will quickly and without a second thought toss Israel under the bus. But because Obama wants the Jewish vote, he will call them an important ally and tell them I have your back.

There isn't a leader in the world that trusts anything coming out of Washington these days. Just as there isn't a leader in the world that fears the Obama administration. The Obama apology tour made him look like a joke. Bowing to Middle East royalty made him appear subservient. His foreign policy is as incoherent as his energy policy or his fiscal restraint.

He has done nothing positive for the country, and he has no record to run on. This coming election will be the blame everyone else election. Obama will further divide this country with partisan politics, class warfare, and of course race wars. He will make endless promises and live up to none. We have a president that is enjoying the ride while he destroys the country, but rest assured his cronies will all be just fine. Everyone else that supported him will be left to wonder what happened.

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#2.9 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:18 AM EST

TO: Insurance man, and where do the Iranian made (proven by un-exploded rockets) rockets fired from Palestine into Israel come from? From un-armed civilians or out of your ass-inine brain?

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#2.10 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:39 AM EST

Hey, Rick, care to share your sources?

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#2.11 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:46 AM EST

Rick..I also want to know where you get your information from??? Toasty, I usually agree with you on most matters here but in the case of Israel I'm going to have to disagree. I think President Obama considers Israel a key ally in the region, not just an interest. His policies are a bit more balanced towards Israel then past administrations but I believe the president when he says he has their back.

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#2.12 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 12:31 PM EST

Rich is a Muslim that hates Jews and Christians and of course America. In America and Israel, Muslims live in peace and have a good life. By contrast how do Jews and Christians do in Muslim Nations? It's NOT EVEN CLOSE! The majority of Muslim HARDLINERS want the world to become Muslim and everyone else dead. At the MINIMUM there would be no freedom in a world dominated by Muslims. Persia has always wanted to kill Jews and Iran sits where Persia was. The leaders of Iran believe they are here to usher in Armageddon, and yet there are idiots on this post that don't know that. Or worse think it's a good idea to give a nation with an evil purpose a nuke? That's akin to giving Hitler a nuke!

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#2.13 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST

In an ideal world..., America could cut its ties with Israel, in an ideal world!

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#2.14 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:59 PM EST

To rpm,

Where in the world did you come up with the idea that "Persia has always wanted to kill Jews". I know you Zionists don't really know about history,from previous Zionist posts.But have you never heard how the only reason that there is an Israel ,is because of Persia.When the Persian Empire conquered Babylon they freed the Jews that the Babylonians had expelled from the Holy Land,Allowing them to return there,and reestablish a strong Jewish presence.Had they not done so,there never would have been another Israel. I"ll bet the modern Persians/Iranians regret their ancestors kindness now. The modern Israelis lack of gratitude to them is breathtaking. (America needs to remember that). But moving on in history.There has been a protected Jewish community in Persia/Iran for thousands of years,even today.Had the Persians wanted to kill Jews they would have done so. But today there are Jews and Christians living freely in Persia/Iran. .

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#2.15 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:09 PM EST

Toasty,

Obama specifically stated to the cameras in the oval office this week that Israel is an ally.

    #2.16 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:26 AM EST
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    un inspecters,they could not find a nuke even if one blew up in front of them

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    Reply#3 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 8:23 AM EST

    Without conditions means exactly that.If the inspectors want to visit a hundred times this site and any other they have to .And any other site...for as long as necessary.And no locked doors -And surprise visits anywhere. This terrorist regime is one short step from being attacked massively not only to get rid of their nuke bomb program but to finish off their crazed very aggressive and very violent regime.Several countries will participate in an attack including Arab and Muslim countries who have also been attacked and threatened by Iran..This will be the last chance for Iran to save itself.These Nazi type Iranian leaders will bring great destruction to their people just as Hitler did to his.In the name of a crazed perverted and pyscho Islamic ideology.just as Hitler did with his " Aryan race" pyschosis..!!

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    Reply#4 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 8:26 AM EST

    Here are 4 links which you war mongers can ponder, which will show how and why, the neocons, allied with Israel got the US into the war with Iraq and our present situation in Iran. They will show the unholy relationship between high ranking Zionist members of the Pentagon during the Bush administration and the leadership of Israel.

    http://www.rense.com/general29/perl.htm

    http://www.serendipity.li/iraqwar/ignoble_liars.htm

    http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_conc1.htm

    http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_conc2.htm

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    #4.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:49 AM EST

    Ralphy, It means nothing to me. I'm not a war monger. But I won't bend over and let them show me how much they love me.

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    #4.2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:44 AM EST

    Ralph, I'm sick and tired of listening to you and your kind constantly selling the story that Iraq was a mistake. If you've got the guts, read the following intel from reliable sources that President Bush had to consider and then tell me that he made the 'wrong decision'

    Iraq and a History of Terrorism

    On December 3, 1976, the New York Times reported that radical Palestinians have gathered in Iraq to mount a terrorist campaign against "moderate" arab governments. The group referred to in the article was known as Black June and they were led by the terrorist Abu Nidal. On August 5, 1978, the New York Times reported that this Palestinian group was linked to Iraq's intelligence service. Abu Nidal was a ruthless terrorist who planned the 1973 assault on an American passenger plane in Rome that resulted in 34 deaths and the 1974 bombing of TWA 841 which resulted in 88 deaths.

    On April 24, 1977, the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) was reorgainized under the leadership of the terrorist Abu Abbas. According to an October 13, 1985 article in the New York Times, the group was organized with money and help from the Iraqi government.

    In December 1977, Carlos the Jackal (a.k.a. Ilich Ramirez Sanchez) a "terrorist for hire" met with Saddam Hussein. Carlos was openly supported by the Iraqi government.

    On July 15, 1978, the LA Times reported that the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) had formally asked the government of Iraq to hand over the terrorist Abu Nidal "so he would get what he deserves." The article reported Iraq had given support to Abu Nidal and even provided him with his own radio station which he called "the voice of the Palestinian revolution." Among other things, the radio station had launched virulent attacks on two Palestinian leaders shortly before they were assassinated earlier that year.

    In 1979, Congress passed legislation (Export Administration Act of 1979) which required the executive branch to create and maintain a list of countries deemed to have repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism. In December 1979, the Carter Administration declared four countries as state sponsors of terrorism including: Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Southern Yemen.

    On August 30, 1980, the New York Times reported in an article titled "U.S. Forbids Sale of Jetliners to Iraq" that the Carter Administration decided to block the sale of five Boeing jets due to Iraq's involvement in recent terrorist activities. The article reported that, within the previous few months, Iraqi diplomats were involved in attempted bomb attacks in Vienna and West Berlin.

    On November 9, 1982, the Los Angeles Times reported in an article titled "Top Arab Terrorist Back in Baghdad" that Abu Nidal had recently moved back to Iraq after being expelled from the country four years earlier. His presence in Iraq was confirmed by President Saddam Hussein.

    Abu Abbas was the mastermind of the October 1985 Achille Lauro cruise ship hijacking. Leon Klinghoffer, a 69-year-old Manhattan retiree, was rolled by Abbas's men, wheelchair and all, into the Mediterranean. After holding some 400 passengers hostage for 44 hours, the hijackers surrendered to Egyptian authorities in exchange for safe passage to Tunisia aboard an Egypt Air jet. The airliner, however, was forced by U.S. fighter planes to land at a NATO base in Sicily. Italian officials took the hijackers into custody but Abu Abbas possessed a get-out-of-jail card: an Iraqi diplomatic passport. Seeing that this terrorist traveled as a credentialed Iraqi diplomat, the Italian authorities let Abbas flee to Yugoslavia.

    On January 21, 1986 the Associated Press reported the May 15 Organization is an Iraqi-based terrorist group headed by a Palestinian who goes by the name of Abu Ibrahim. The article quoted an Israeli military officer who said the group "specializes in blowing up planes in the air. They operate with the active support of Iraqi intelligence." The May 15 Organization was responsible for five attacks on American and Israeli airliners between 1982 and 1983 including the August 11, 1982 bombing of Pan Am flight 830 over Honolulu which killed one teenager and injured 15 other passengers. Members of the group are also suspected in the April 2, 1986 bombing of TWA flight 840 which killed four Americans near Athens.

    On May 13, 1986, the New York Times reported that the French Interior Ministry had received confessions for three terrorist bombings including the Marks & Spencer department stores in Paris and London. According to reports, the terrorist in custody had received his orders from a "contact in Baghdad." That contact was Abu Ibrahim, the leader of a radical Palestinian organization called the "Arab Organization of May 15." This group, which received Iraqi government support, was known for its use of sophisticated explosive devices in the form of plastic explosives and suitcase bombs.

    On March 20, 1990, four months prior to the invasion of Kuwait, the Chicago Tribune asked, "Why is Bush gentle with the Butcher of Baghdad?" The newspaper was upset a British journalist had been recently hanged in Iraq as a spy. Saddam had also declared a school holiday to swell the crowds ordered to demonstrate in front of the British embassy. The Iraqi propaganda minister declared, "Mrs. Thatcher wanted him alive, we gave her the body."

    On March 31, 1990, months prior to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, The Post-Standard (Syracuse, NY) reported that five people were indicted for illegally exporting nuclear warhead triggering devices to Iraq. The article reported, "Hussein is one of the world's foremost sponsors of terrorism. Numbered among his clients are a varied assortment of highjackers, bombers and kidnappers around the world."

    On January 16, 1991 President George H.W. Bush announced that twenty eight countries with forces in the Gulf began military operations to remove Saddam Hussein's army from Kuwait. "Some may ask: Why act now? Why not wait? The answer is clear: The world could wait no longer. Sanctions, though having some effect, showed no signs of accomplishing their objective. Sanctions were tried for well over 5 months, and we and our allies concluded that sanctions alone would not force Saddam from Kuwait. While the world waited, Saddam Hussein systematically raped, pillaged, and plundered a tiny nation, no threat to his own. He subjected the people of Kuwait to unspeakable atrocities -- and among those maimed and murdered, innocent children."

    During the first Gulf War, on February 4, 1991, the Washington Times wrote an article titled, "Terrorist Camps Deserted in Iraq." The article reported that several terrorist camps inside Iraq were abandoned shortly after the start of the allied bombing campaign. One camp in the western desert was operated by the terrorist Abu Nidal for weapons and explosives training. A terrorist camp near Bagdad was operated by Abu Ibrahim, leader of the Arab Organization May 15. And another terrorist camp near Bagdad was occupied by terrorists of unknown affiliation. Later, after the war, the Washington Times wrote another article dated November 24, 1992 reporting that terrorists were once again training at a camp near Bagdad in violation of the cease-fire terms that ended the Gulf War.

    On February 4, 1992, The Canadian Press reported, "A Palestinian ex-businessman said Tuesday he was sent on a bombing mission to Europe in 1982 by an Iraqi-based guerrilla group whose leader had close connections with the Baghdad government. Adnan Awad told a U.S. Senate hearing he took a sophisticated briefcase bomb to Switzerland where he was to blow up either an Israeli or an American installation but could not bring himself to do it." Awad said the leader of the group, Abu Ibrahim, had an "open and clear" relationship with the Iraqi government and enjoyed special privileges "like any big officer in Iraq."

    On June 6, 1992, the Associated Press reported that, "U.S. officials knew Palestinian terrorists were finding a safe haven in Baghdad, but for eight years the Reagan and Bush administrations rejected congressional attempts to punish Iraq, newly declassified documents show." A July 1, 1986 memo to then-Secretary of State George Shultz said, "The Iraqis initially endeavored to preserve their terrorist assets, resorting to subterfuge to divert attention from their continued support for terrorist groups." The memo was declassified by the State Department at the request of Rep. Sam Gejdenson, D-Conn.

    During the 1992 presidential campaign, Al Gore criticized the first Bush administration for its "blatant disregard" of Iraq's ties to terrorism. On September 29, 1992 Al Gore said, "The Reagan-Bush administration was also prepared to overlook the fact that the terrorists who masterminded the attack on the Achille Lauro and the savage murder of American Leon Klinghoffer, fled with Iraqi assistance. Nor did it seem to matter that the team of terrorists who set out to blow up the Rome airport came directly from Baghdad with suitcase bombs." Al Gore went on to say, "There might have been a moment's pause for reflection when Iraqi aircraft intentionally attacked the USS Stark in May of 1987 killing 37 sailors, but the administration smoothed it over very fast."

    Former President George H.W. Bush visited Kuwait between April 14 and April 16, 1993, to commemorate the allied victory in the Persian Gulf War. In late-April 1993, the United States learned that terrorists had attempted to assassinate Bush during his visit to Kuwait and evidence indicated that the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) was behind the assassination attempt. The Kuwaiti authorities arrested 17 persons suspected in the plot to kill Bush using explosives hidden in a Toyota Landcruiser. On June 26, 1993, the United States launched a cruise missile attack against a building housing the Iraqi Intelligence Service in Baghdad in retaliation for the assassination attempt on former President Bush.

    On June 27, 1994 ABC News reported that Abdul Rahman Yasin (indicted for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) was known to be living in Iraq. A reporter working for ABC News and Newsweek spotted Abdul Yasin at his father's house in Baghdad. Newsweek reported that, according to neighbors, Yasin was "working for the Iraqi government." At the time, the U.S. government was offering a $2 million reward for information leading to his capture. Yasin was never brought to justice and still remains at large today. The reward for his capture has since increased to $5 million.

    On October 12, 1994, the Los Angeles Times reported that the Pentagon had placed 155,000 additional ground troops on alert in response to the recent build-up of Iraqi forces near the Kuwait border. These soldiers were in addition to the 36,000 already being sent to the Persian Gulf. "For the next several hours, we're going to watch and see what Iraq is going to do," one official said. "Meanwhile, we are getting ourselves prepared in case the worst comes to pass."

    Throughout the 1990's the U.S. Department of State listed Iraq as a country known to sponsor international terrorism. The Department of State's 1994 Patterns of Global Terrorism report stated, "Since 1991, in violation of UN Security Council resolutions, the Government of Iraq has obstructed the international community's provision of humanitarian assistance. We believe that Iraq is responsible for more than 100 attacks on relief personnel and aid convoys over the past four years. Moreover, the Government of Iraq has offered monetary 'bounties' to anyone who assassinates UN and other international relief workers."

    On January 17, 1995 the Boston Globe reported possible Iraqi involvement in the World Trade Center bombing. "I believe the totality of the evidence points toward Iraqi involvement," said James Fox, former special agent in charge of the FBI's New York office and the man credited with solving the bombing case. "I should say, I arrived at that conclusion after not believing it at first," he added. Fox explained that an eight-page State Department analysis that was classified but made available to him suggested that Iraqi sponsorship of the World Trade Center bombing was the "most likely scenario."

    The U.S. Department of State's 1995 Patterns of Global Terrorism report stated, "Iraq continues to provide haven and training facilities for several terrorist clients. Abu Abbas' Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) maintains its headquarters in Baghdad. The Abu Nidal organization (ANO) continues to have an office in Baghdad. The Arab Liberation Front (ALF), headquartered in Baghdad, continues to receive funding from Saddam's regime. Iraq also continues to host the former head of the now-defunct 15 May organization, Abu Ibrahim, who masterminded several bombings of US aircraft."

    On September 4, 1996, Newsday reported the United States had launched a cruise missile strike the prior day against Saddam Hussein to make him "pay a price" for unleashing his army against the northern Kurds. Over a two day period the United States launched a total of 44 cruise missiles into Iraq. President Clinton said, "Our objectives are limited but clear: To make Saddam pay a price for the latest act of brutality, reducing his ability to threaten his neighbors and America's interests."

    On September 12, 1996, National Public Radio interviewed a former CIA chief of counter-terrorism who said Iraq might have been a state sponsor behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. NPR pointed out that Ramzi Ahmed Yousef came to the United States with an Iraqi passport and also reported that indicted co-conspirator Abdul Rahman Yasin was currently living in Baghdad.

    On March 2, 1998, U.S. News & World Report wrote that Saddam Hussein had dispatched some 30 terrorist teams around the world to strike U.S. interests prior to the first Gulf War. Disaster was averted, the article reported, by a combination of U.S. intelligence and Iraqi incompetence. Iraq had shipped automatic weapons and explosives to embassies overseas but most of the Iraqi agents were amateurish and easily detected. Two men who did get through accidentally blew themselves up in the Philippines before they could bomb a U.S. cultural center in Manila.

    On January 27, 1999 an article in the New York Times titled "A Much-Shunned Terrorist Is Said to Find Haven in Iraq" stated that "Abu Nidal, one of the world's most infamous terrorists, moved to Baghdad late last year and obtained the protection of President Saddam Hussein, according to intelligence reports received by United States and Middle Eastern government officials." The article quoted a counterterrorism expert who said that, regarding Abu Nidal, "Osama bin Laden is a student by comparison."

    On January 12, 2001 The Miami Herald reported that the Navy changed the status of Lt. Commander Michael Scott Speicher from killed in action to missing. Speicher was listed as the first casualty of the Gulf War when his F/A-18 Hornet was shot down on January 17, 1991. This change in status also makes him the last to be still unaccounted for. President Clinton said information about the case "makes us believe that at least he survived his crash... and that he might be alive." Clinton said U.S. officials have begun trying to determine whether Speicher is alive, and "if he is, where he is and how we can get him out."

    After the Gulf War in 1991, no-fly zones were established in northern and southern Iraq to protect the Iraqi Kurds and Shiites from Saddam's forces. The U.S. military enforced these no-fly zones up until the second Iraq war in March 2003. Iraq considered this an affront to its sovereignty and in December 1998 began shooting at American aircraft patrolling these zones. On March 28, 2001, General Tommy Franks reported to the House Armed Services Committee that during the prior year alone, coalition forces had flown nearly 10,000 sorties inside Iraqi airspace and those aircraft were engaged by surface-to-air missiles or anti-aircraft fire more than 500 times. Franks reported that during the prior year, naval forces had intercepted 610 ships while enforcing U.N. sanctions designed to limit Saddam Hussein's ability to smuggle oil out of Iraq. On any given day, U.S. Central Command operated in the region with some 30 naval vessels, 175-200 military aircraft, and between 18,000 and 25,000 Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Coast Guardsmen, and Marines.

    On October 14, 2001, a former Iraqi army captain named Sabah Khodada granted an interview to the PBS television program "Frontline" in which he talked about a terrorist training camp in Iraq called Salman Pak. During this interview Khodada stated, "This camp is specialized in exporting terrorism to the whole world."

    Saddam Hussein paid $25,000 bonuses to the families of Palestinian homicide bombers. "President Saddam Hussein has recently told the head of the Palestinian political office, Faroq al-Kaddoumi, his decision to raise the sum granted to each family of the martyrs of the Palestinian uprising to $25,000 instead of $10,000," Iraq's deputy prime minister Tariq Aziz declared on March 11, 2002. Mahmoud Besharat, who dispensed these funds across the West Bank, gratefully said: "You would have to ask President Saddam why he is being so generous. But he is a revolutionary and he wants this distinguished struggle, the intifada, to continue."

    Before the rise of Usama bin Laden, Abu Nidal was widely regarded as the world's most ruthless terrorist. The Associated Press reported on August 22, 2002 that Nidal entered Iraq during the late 1990's "with the full knowledge and preparations of the Iraqi authorities." He lived there until August, 2002 when he died of between one and four gunshot wounds. It is believed by many that Abu Nidal was killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein although the Iraqi government claimed that Nidal had committed suicide.

    On February 13, 2003, the Philippine government expelled Iraqi diplomat Hisham al Hussein, the second secretary at Iraq's Manila embassy. Cell phone records indicated that the Iraqi diplomat had spoken with Abu Madja and Hamsiraji Sali, leaders of Abu Sayyaf, just before and just after this Al-Qaeda allied Islamic militant group conducted an attack in Zamboanga City. Abu Sayyaf's nail filled bomb exploded on October 2, 2002, injuring 23 individuals and killing two Filipinos plus killing U.S. Special Forces Sergeant First Class Mark Wayne Jackson, age 40.

    After the fall of Saddam's government, coalition forces found and destroyed a terrorist training camp located near Baghdad called Salman Pak. This terrorist training camp featured an airplane fuselage where Iraqi defectors had earlier reported foreign terrorists were being trained in hijacking aircraft.

    On April 7, 2003, Agence France Presse reported that US Marines discovered a terrorist training camp operated by the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF). The complex featured bomb-making facilities and pictures of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and PLF faction leader Abu Abbas. Other pictures included the terrorist leader Abu Abbas posing with a Republican Guard brigadier general inside the camp.

    On April 14, 2003, Abu Abbas was captured by U.S. Special Forces during a raid near Baghdad. Abbas had lived in Baghdad since 1994, where he was living under protection of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

    Khala Khadr al-Salahat, accused of designing the bomb that destroyed Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in December 1988 (259 killed on board, 11 dead on the ground), also lived in Iraq. He surrendered to U.S. Marines in Baghdad on April 18, 2003. http://www.defenddemocracy.org/in_the_media/in_the_media_show.htm?doc_id=208308" target="_blank">

    On September 18, 2003, USA Today ran an article with the headline "U.S. says Iraq sheltered suspect in '93 WTC attack." The article reported that U.S. authorities have evidence Saddam Hussein's regime gave money and housing to Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the World Trade Center bombing in 1993. Military, intelligence and law enforcement officials reported finding a large cache of Arabic-language documents in Tikrit, Saddam's political stronghold. Some analysts have concluded that the documents show Saddam's government provided monthly payments and a home for Yasin.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin said on June 18, 2004, "I can confirm that after the events of September 11, 2001, and up to the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received ... information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the United States and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations."

    In March 2006, a captured Iraqi document was revealed outlining a May 1999 plan for training terrorists. Under the code name "Blessed July" the top ten graduates of a terrorist training camp were to be sent to London for European operations. Other graduates of this terrorist training camp were to be sent to Iran or the Kurdish areas in northern Iraq. The Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) was to provide logistical support for their missions and selection of targets.

    On November 29, 2009 a Czech TV station revealed that Iraqi intelligence agents working for Saddam Hussein had plotted an attack on the Prague headquarters of Radio Free Europe. TV Nova aired an exclusive report with information that in 1999 Saddam Hussein ordered a terrorist attack on the US-financed radio station from where programs criticizing his regime were broadcast around the world. In 2003, Czech intelligence officers discovered the plot and confiscated the weapons that Iraqi agents had stockpiled including automatic weapons and a rocket propelled grenade.

    Connections between Iraq and Al-Qaeda

    On August 20, 1998, President Bill Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack against a chemical weapons factory in Sudan. The cruise missle strike was in retaliation for the August 7, 1998 truck bomb attacks on U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya which killed more than 200 people and wounded more than 5,000 others. The chemical weapons factory in Sudan was funded, in part, by Osama bin Laden who the U.S. believed responsible for the embassy bombings. Richard Clarke, a national security advisor to President Clinton, told the Washington Post in a January 23, 1999 article that the U.S. government was "sure" that Iraqi nerve gas experts had produced a powdered substance at that plant for use in making VX nerve gas.

    On August 25, 1998 the Fort Worth Star-telegram reported a link between Iraq and the Sudanese chemical weapons factory destroyed by the United States in a cruise missile attack. The chemical weapons factory was hit because of links to Osama bin Laden who the U.S. believed responsible for the recent embassy bombings. A senior intelligence official said one of the leaders of Iraq's chemical weapons program, Emad al-Ani, had close ties with senior Sudanese officials at the factory. The intelligence official also said a number of Iraqi scientists working with al-Ani attended the grand opening of the factory two years earlier. Emad Husayn Abdullah al-Ani surrendered to U.S. military forces on April 18, 2003.

    On November 5, 1998 a Federal grand jury in Manhattan returned a 238-count indictment charging Osama bin Laden in the bombings of two United States Embassies in Africa and with conspiring to commit other acts of terrorism against Americans abroad. The grand jury indictment also charged that Al-Qaeda had reached an arrangement with President Saddam Hussein's government in Iraq whereby the group said that it would not work against Iraq, and that the two parties agreed to cooperate in the development of weapons.

    On January 11, 1999, Newsweek magazine ran the headline "Saddam + Bin Laden?" The subheadline declared, "It would be a marriage made in hell. And America's two enemies are courting." The article points out that Saddam has a long history ofsupporting terrorism. The article also mentions that, in the prior week, several surface-to-air missiles were fired at U.S. and British planes patrolling the no-fly zones and that Saddam is now fighting for his life now that the United States has made his removal from office a national objective.

    On January 14, 1999, ABC News reported, "Saddam Hussein has a long history of harboring terrorists. Carlos the Jackal, Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas, the most notorious terrorists of their era, all found shelter and support at one time in Baghdad. Intelligence sources say bin Laden's long relationship with the Iraqis began as he helped Sudan's fundamentalist government in their efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction."

    On February 13, 1999, CNN reported, "Osama bin Laden, the Saudi millionaire accused by the United States of plotting bomb attacks on two U.S. embassies in Africa, has left Afghanistan, Afghan sources said Saturday. Bin Laden's whereabouts were not known....." The article reports, "Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has offered asylum to bin Laden....."

    On February 14, 1999, an article in the Aberdeen American News claimed U.S. intelligence officials were worried about an alliance between Osama bin Laden and Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. The article said bin Laden had met with a senior Iraqi intelligence official near Qandahar, Afghanistan in late December 1998 and that "there has been increasing evidence that bin Laden and Iraq may have begun cooperating in planning attacks against American and British targets around the world." Vincent Cannistraro, former head of counterterrorism at the Central Intelligence Agency said, "It's clear the Iraqis would like to have bin Laden in Iraq." The article said that in addition to Abu Nidal, another Palestinian terrorist by the name of Abu Ibrahim was also believed to be in Iraq.

    On February 18, 1999, National Public Radio (NPR) reported, "There have also been reports in recent months that bin Laden might have been considering moving his operations to Iraq. Intelligence agencies in several nations are looking into that. According to Vincent Cannistraro, a former chief of CIA counterterrorism operations, a senior Iraqi intelligence official, Farouk Hijazi, sought out bin Laden in December and invited him to come to Iraq." NPR reported that Iraq's contacts with bin Laden go back some years, to at least 1994, when Farouk Hijazi met with bin Laden when he lived in Sudan.

    On February 28, 1999, an article was written in The Kansas City Star which said, "He [bin Laden] has a private fortune ranging from $250 million to $500 million and is said to be cultivating a new alliance with Iraq's Saddam Hussein, who has biological and chemical weapons bin Laden would not hesitate to use. An alliance between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein could be deadly. Both men are united in their hatred for the United States....."

    On December 28, 1999, an article appeared in The Herald (Glasgow, Scotland) titled, "Iraq tempts bin Laden to attack West." The article starts, "The world's most wanted man, Osama bin Laden, has been offered sanctuary in Iraq....." The article quotes a U.S. counter-terrorism source who said, "Now we are also facing the prospect of an unholy alliance between bin Laden and Saddam. The implications are terrifying."

    On April 8, 2001, an informant for Czech counter-intelligence observed an Iraqi intelligence official named al-Ani meeting with an Arab man in his 20s at a restaurant outside Prague. Following the 9/11 attacks, the Czech informant who observed the meeting saw Mohammed Atta’s picture in the papers and identified Mohammed Atta as the man who met with the Iraqi intelligence official.

    On July 21, 2001 [less than two months prior to 911] the Iraqi state-controlled newspaper "Al-Nasiriya" predicted that bin Laden would attack the U.S. "with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House." The same state-approved column also insisted that bin Laden "will strike America on the arm that is already hurting," and that the U.S. "will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs" - an apparent reference to the Sinatra classic, "New York, New York."

    After the 9/11 attacks, Saddam became the only world leader to offer praise for bin Laden, even as other terrorist leaders, like Yassir Arafat, went out of their way to make a show of sympathy to the U.S. by donating blood to 9/11 victims on camera. Saddam later pays tribute to 9/11 by having a mural painted depicting the World Trade Center attack at an Iraqi military base in Nasariyah.

    On December 3, 2001 USA Today reported that the CIA had convincing evidence from the mid-1990s Saddam Hussein's regime was funneling money through Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network to the Armed Islamic Group (GIA) in Algeria and other terrorist organizations. Stanley Bedlington, a senior analyst in the CIA's counterterrorism center until his retirement in 1994, said "We were convinced that money from Iraq was going to bin Laden, who was then sending it to places that Iraq wanted it to go."

    On March 15, 2002 the Christian Science Monitor reported that a Taliban-style group known as Ansar al-Islam was threatening stability in the Kurdish northern region of Iraq. Prior to the start of the Iraq War in 2003, Colin Powell addressed the United Nations and pointed out that both Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida had links with the Ansar al-Islam terrorist group. Saddam had provided arms and funding for this terrorist group waging a jihadist war against the Kurds. One month prior to the formation of Ansar al-Islam, leaders from several Kurdish Islamist factions had visited the al-Qaida leadership in Afghanistan. Ansar al-Islam announced their formation on September 1, 2001 just days prior to the September 11 attacks in the United States.

    Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a director of an al Qaeda training base in Afghanistan, fled to Iraq after being injured as the Taliban fell (prior to the U.S./Iraq war). He received medical care and convalesced for two months in Baghdad. He then opened a terrorist training camp in northern Iraq and arranged the October 2002 assassination of U.S. diplomat Lawrence Foley in Amman, Jordan.

    CIA director George Tenet (appointed by President Bill Clinton July 11, 1997) wrote in a letter to Senator Bob Graham dated October 7, 2002. "We have solid reporting of senior level contact between Iraq and al Qaeda going back a decade. Credible information exists that Iraq and al Qaeda have discussed safe haven and reciprocal nonaggression. . . . We have credible reporting that al Qaeda leaders sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire WMD capabilities."

    On October 16, 2002, the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 was signed into law. Theauthorization (Public law 107-243) had passed the House by a vote of 296-133, and the Senate by a vote of 77-23. This resolution stated, "Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;" and "Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens."

    Babil, an official newspaper of Saddam Hussein's government, run by his oldest son Uday, published information that appeared to confirm U.S. allegations of the links between the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda. In its November 16, 2002 edition, Babil identified one Abd-al-Karim Muhammad Aswad as an "intelligence officer," describing him as the "official in charge of regime's contacts with Osama bin Laden's group and currently the regime's representative in Pakistan."

    In December 2002 the House and Senate intelligence committees issued a report on the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. CIA director George Tenet testified (page 137) that, “Atta may also have traveled outside of the U.S. in early April 2001 to meet an Iraqi intelligence officer, although we are still working to corroborate this.” This report also noted (page 211) that, "In February 1999, the Intelligence Community obtained information that Iraq had formed a suicide pilot unit that it planned to use against British and U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf. The CIA commented that this was highly unlikely and probably disinformation."

    On April 25, 2003 CNN reported that Farouk Hijazi had been captured by U.S. forces. Farouk Hijazi was a former intelligence official who may have plotted the attempted assassination of George H.W. Bush in 1993. He was also a contact between Saddam Hussein's regime and Osama bin Laden. Farouk met with bin Laden in Afghanistan in 1998 and is also believed to have met with bin Laden in Sudan in the early 1990's.

    While sifting through the Iraqi Intelligence Service's [Mukhabarat] bombed ruins on April 26, 2003 the Toronto Star's Mitch Potter, the London Daily Telegraph's Inigo Gilmore and their translator discovered a memo in the intelligence service's accounting department. Dated February 19, 1998 and marked "Top Secret and Urgent," it said the agency would pay "all the travel and hotel expenses inside Iraq to gain the knowledge of the message from bin Laden and to convey to his envoy an oral message from us to bin Laden, the Saudi opposition leader, about the future of our relationship with him, and to achieve a direct meeting with him."

    On May 7, 2003, a federal judge in New York awarded damages against the government of Iraq after ruling that the families of two victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, suicide hijackings had shown that Iraq had provided material support to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida. Judge Harold Baer ruled that the two families were entitled to $104 million compensation from Iraq, bin Laden, al-Qaida, the Taliban movement and their government of Afghanistan. "Plaintiffs have shown, albeit barely, 'by evidence satisfactory to the court' that Iraq provided material support to bin Laden and al-Qaida."

    The 9/11 Commission Report (pages 228 - 229) provides details of what is known about Mohamed Atta's alleged April 9, 2001 11:00 A.M. meeting with an Iraqi Intelligence agent in Prague. According to the FBI, Mohamed Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 4 and in Florida on April 11. Atta's cell phone records indicate calls were made from Florida during this period but they cannot confirm whether he placed those calls. The report mentions, however, that Czech intelligence has stated publicly they believe there was a 70 percent probability that the meeting took place. The Czech Interior Minister made several statements to the press about his belief that the meeting had occurred. Atta is known to have been in Prague on at least two occasions: once in December 1994 and again in June 2000.

    On September 13, 2006, a deputy prime minister of Iraq by the name of Barham Salih gave a speech in which he said, "The alliance between the Baathists and jihadists which sustains Al Qaeda in Iraq is not new, contrary to what you may have been told." He went on to say, "I know this at first hand. Some of my friends were murdered by jihadists, by Al Qaeda-affiliated operatives who had been sheltered and assisted by Saddam's regime."

    On March 20, 2008 the Pentagon declassified results of their investigation into captured Iraqi documents. The report entitled "Iraqi Perspectives Project -- Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents" stated, "While these documents do not reveal direct coordination and assistance between the Saddam regime and the al Qaeda network, they do indicate that Saddam was willing to use, albeit cautiously, operatives affiliated with al Qaeda as long as Saddam could have these terrorist–operatives monitored closely. Because Saddam’s security organizations and Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network operated with similar aims (at least in the short term), considerable overlap was inevitable when monitoring, contacting, financing, and training the same outside groups. This created both the appearance of and, in some ways, a 'de facto' link between the organizations. At times, these organizations would work together in pursuit of shared goals but still maintain their autonomy and independence because of innate caution and mutual distrust."

    In June 2008 the Senate released their report "Whether Public Statements Regarding Iraq By U.S. Government Officials Were Substantiated By Intelligence Information." Among the conclusions (page 71), it reported that public statements by government officials that Iraq (prior to the war) provided safe haven for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and other al-Qaida related terrorist members was substantiated by intelligence assessments.

    On June 18, 2008 the Iraqi newspaper Kurdistani Nwe published a 2002 letter from the Iraqi presidency that it said proved there was cooperation between Saddam Hussein's regime and Al-Qaeda. The letter, which appeared on the paper's front page, was written by Iraqi intelligence and discussed an intention to meet with Ayman Al-Zawahiri in order to examine a plan drawn up by the Iraqi presidency to carry out a "revenge operation" in Saudi Arabia.

    Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

    In the 1970s, Iraq was unsuccessful in negotiations with France to purchase a plutonium production reactor similar to the one used in France's nuclear weapons program. With French assistance, Iraq then built the Osiraq 40 megawatt light-water nuclear reactor near Baghdad. When Israeli intelligence confirmed Iraq's intention to produce weapons at Osiraq, the Israeli government decided to attack. According to some estimates, Iraq in 1981 was still as much as five to ten years away from the ability to build a nuclear weapon. Others estimated, at that time, Iraq might get its first such weapon within a year or two. On June 7, 1981 Iraqi defenses were caught by surprise and the reactor at Osiraq was destroyed.

    It is estimated that the Iran/Iraq war cost the two sides a million casualties. Iraq used chemical weapons in that war extensively from 1984. Some twenty thousand Iranians were killed by mustard gas, and the nerve agents tabun and sarin. This marked the first time a country had been named for violating the 1925 Geneva Convention banning the use of chemical weapons. http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page279.asp" target="_blank">

    On March 16, 1988, the Iraqi Air Force appeared over the city of Halabja. At the time, the city was home to roughly eighty thousand Kurds. The attack on Halabja was the most notorious and the single deadliest gas attack against the Kurds killing 5,000 civilians and injuring 10,000 more. But, it was just one of some forty chemical assaults staged by Iraq against the Kurdish people.

    On April 3, 1990, four months prior to the invasion of Kuwait, the Los Angeles Times reported, "Iraqi President Saddam Hussein declared Monday that his military machine has nerve gas and the means to deliver it, threatening to destroy 'half of Israel' if it attacks Iraqi targets." The LA Times also reported that, the week prior, five Iraqi agents were arrested in London attempting to smuggle nuclear triggering devices to Baghdad.

    After invading Kuwait, Iraq attempted to accelerate its program to develop a nuclear weapon by using radioactive fuel from the Osiraq reactor. It made a crash effort in September, 1990 to recover enriched fuel from this supposedly safe-guarded reactor, with the goal of produced a nuclear weapon by April, 1991. The program was only halted after Coalition air raid destroyed key facilities on January 17, 1991.

    After the first Gulf War, on April 3, 1991, the U.N. adapted ceasefire resolution 687. As part of this agreement, Iraq was required to destroy, under international supervision, all chemical and biological weapons and stocks of agents and all related development, research, and manufacturing facilities. In the following years, however, Iraq would not cooperate with inspectors. At the end of the second Gulf War, U.S. forces found over 500 chemical weapons proving that Iraq never destoyed their WMD in violation of this ceasefire agreement.

    On January 13, 1993 warplanes from the United States, France and Britain bombed missile sites in southern Iraq. About 80 strike aircraft and 30 support planes took part. The New York Times reported that, "At the same time, Iraq offered to halt its raids into Kuwait. They have been taking place for several days and were a violation of United Nations resolutions. Iraq has also deployed missile batteries in forbidden areas and fired an Iraqi missile at an American plane, actions the United States has described as brazen provocations by Baghdad. In a further warning to Mr. Hussein that he could not continue to flout the will of the United Nations, Mr. Bush announced the dispatch of a battalion-sized task force, composed of about 1,250 American troops, to neighboring Kuwait, where they will act as a deterrent to further Iraqi incursions."

    On January 18, 1993 the Seattle Post-intelligencer reported that the United States launched a cruise missile attack delivering "the political and diplomatic point" that Iraq must comply with United Nations resolutions. "In a dramatic crescendo for President Bush's final weekend in office, U.S. forces shot down a MiG-23 warplane and struck an Iraqi air defense installation. Hours later, U.S. warships launched about 40 Tomahawks into the night skies near Iraq's capital," they reported. It was the second strike on Iraq within five days. A White House Spokesman said a nuclear weapon fabrications plant was targeted in response to a series of weekend military provocations by Iraq.

    On January 21, 1993, the day after President Bill Clinton was inaugurated, the Los Angeles Times reported, "A solid majority of Americans favor U.S. military intervention to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq." The Times cited a recent poll which asked Americans whether they would back an all-out effort to remove Saddam Hussein even "at the risk of losing some American lives" and 60% of those questioned said yes while only 30% said no.

    On September 15, 1996 the Washington Post reported the CIA had spent $100 million, or an average of $20 million a year, in efforts to topple Saddam Hussein since the Gulf War. The Post reported that, "Although no U.S. order was given to any Iraqi dissident to kill Saddam, the CIA provided funds to groups that it knew were attempting to do so." When the covert program was expanded early in the year, the agency was authorized by the White House to support acts of sabotage inside Iraq that would create an image of a country descending into chaos. Several Iraqi dissidents claimed a military rebellion failed to materialize because Washington withheld a promised aerial bombardment of Iraqi military positions, but the Clinton administration dismissed the claim that aerial support was promised.

    On March 26, 1997 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright proclaimed, "the evidence is overwhelming that Saddam Hussein's intentions will never be peaceful." In a major foreign policy speech at Georgetown University the Secretary of State was highly critical of the Iraqi dictator. "Consider that Iraq admitted producing chemical and biological warfare agents before the Gulf War that were sufficiently lethal to kill every man, woman and child on earth. Consider that Iraq has yet to provide convincing evidence that it has destroyed all of these weapons. Consider that Iraq admitted loading many of those agents into missile warheads before the war. Consider that Iraq retains more than 7,500 nuclear scientists and technicians, as well as technical documents related to the production of nuclear weapons. Consider that Iraq has been caught trying to smuggle in missile guidance instruments. And consider that according to Ambassador Ekeus, UNSCOM has not been able to account for all the missiles acquired over the years. In fact, Ekeus believes that it is highly likely that Iraq retains an operational Scud missile force, probably with chemical or biological weapons to go with it."

    On November 16, 1997 the Sunday Times reported that Iraq was manufacturing poisonous gas at a secret location in Sudan. "Bypassing the ban on weapons of mass destruction which the United Nations imposed on Baghdad after its defeat in the Gulf war, Saddam Hussein and the Islamist government of General Omar al Bashir in Khartoum are making and stockpiling mustard gas for their mutual benefit." Since production started, the article reported, the Sudanese armed forces were known to have used mustard gas against the Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) on at least two occasions.

    On November 20, 1997 the New York Times reported that no arms inspections had taken place in Iraq since October 29 when Baghdad threatened to expel Americans on the monitoring teams. The Times also reported that the head of the United Nations inspection team recently went to the Security Council with photographs and documents demonstrating that Iraq continued to pose a threat in almost every area of weapons development. The photographs showed a convoy of trucks entering and leaving a factory after inspectors indicated it was a site they wished to visit. As an example of how Iraq changed its accounting, a chemical weapons expert said that in 1995 Iraq admitted to having made 160 kilograms of VX nerve agent. Then Iraq altered its figures to 240 kilograms, then to 1,250 kilograms. By June 1996, the Iraqis acknowledged they produced at least 3.9 tons of VX.

    On November 23, 1997 CBS News "60 Minutes" ran an interview with Iraqi defector and former chief of military intelligence Wafiq al-Sammarrai. During this interview, Sammarrai said that Iraq had an active biological weapons program. He said the U.N. weapons inspectors were being deceived and that they would never be allowed inside the Presidential Palace because of documents kept there. Wafiq Sammarrai also said that Saddam Hussein had considered carrying out a biological weapons attack against the United States using anthrax.

    On December 15, 1997 the Associated Press reported that Defense Secretary William Cohen had ordered all 1.5 million men and women in uniform to be inoculated against anthrax. The article mentioned, "The move comes amid the confrontation with Iraq's Saddam Hussein and the United Nations' efforts to uncover his weapons of mass destruction." The Chattanooga Free Pressreported at the time that Saddam had 2,100 gallons of anthrax toxin.

    On January 28, 1998 the Senate passed Concurrent Resolution 71 "condemning Iraq's threat to international peace and security." Among the co-sponsors of this bill were Tom Daschle, John Kerry, Bob Graham, Patrick Moynihan, Robert Byrd, Patrick Leahy, and Christopher Dodd. This resolution "urges the President to take all necessary and appropriate actions to respond to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." In defense of President Clinton's inclination to use military force in Iraq, Daschle said this resolution would "send as clear a message as possible that we are going to force, one way or another, diplomatically or militarily, Iraq to comply with international law."

    On February 10, 1998, Yossef Bodansky, director of the U.S. House of Representatives Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, published a task force report compiled from information obtained from Arab opposition movements as well as from British, German and Israeli intelligence sources. The report said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction at that time including anthrax, nerve gas, and mustard gas. It also claimed that some Iraqi nuclear materials were being held in Algeria. Yossef Bodansky said a chemical weapons factory was being built at that time, with the help of Iraqi experts, south-west of Sudan's capital Khartoum for Islamic terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden. This 1998 report concludes, "And so, the US is planning an instant-gratification bombing campaign that would neither destroy Iraq's WMD operational capabilities nor touch its main WMD production lines in Libya and Sudan."

    On February 17, 1998 President Clinton said, "Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal. And I think every one of you who's really worked on this for any length of time believes that, too."

    By late February 1998, U.S. forces in the gulf region had reached more than 40,000 and were reinforced with British and other allied contingents. The U.S. military build-up was due to Iraq's obstruction of U.N. (UNSCOM) weapons inspections. On February 18, 1998 President Bill Clinton said, "If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." Five days later, however, Kofi Annan struck a deal with the Iraqi dictator that once again allowed U.N. inspectors permission to inspect. As the crisis receded, U.S. forces were drawn back down to their pre-1997 levels. Ten months after Saddam accepted Annan's offer, Saddam kicked U.N. weapons inspectors out of Iraq for good.

    On February 26, 1998 CNN reported that Iraq is attempting to develop an unmanned aircraft capable of delivering nerve gas or the biological agent anthrax. http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9802/26/iraq.weapon/" target="_blank">

    On March 24, 1998 the Daily Mail reported that Saddam Hussein was planning a deadly anthrax attack inside Britain. A top secret alert was sent out to security officials manning ports and airports demanding vigilance after intelligence sources alerted the British Government to the plot. It was reported that Saddam had plans to smuggle large amounts of anthrax inside "hostile countries" with bottles normally containing spirits or cosmetics as well as in cigarette lighters and perfume sprays.

    On May 1, 1998, President Clinton signed Public Law 105-174, which made $5,000,000 available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition for such activities as organization, training, communication and dissemination of information, developing and implementing agreements among opposition groups, compiling information to support the indictment of Iraqi officials for war crimes, and for related purposes.

    On August 3, 1998 the House of Representatives voted 407-6 to condemn Iraq for its "material breach" of U.N. resolutions and international agreements. Signed on August 14, 1998 by President Bill Clinton this resolution (Public Law 105-235) urged the President to take appropriate action to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations. It listed dozens of violations dating from 1991 and culminating with recent evidence that Iraq had produced chemical warheads for missiles.

    On August 20, 1998, President Bill Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack against a chemical weapons factory in Sudan. The chemical weapons factory the U.S. hit was funded, in part, by Osama bin Laden who the U.S. believed responsible for the U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. Thomas Pickering, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, told reporters, "We see evidence that we think is quite clear on contacts between Sudan and Iraq. In fact, El Shifa officials, early in the company's history, we believe were in touch with Iraqi individuals associated with Iraq's VX program."

    On August 27, 1998 NPR's Mike Shuster reported that US justification for destroying a pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan had shifted from focusing on links to Saudi dissent Osama bin Laden, to alleged Iraqi chemical weapons experts believed to have been working in the Sudan to avoid UN weapons inspections in their homeland. US officials said Iraqi technicians came to the Sudan soon after Iraq's defeat in the Gulf War to continue their work on chemical weapons in Sudanese pharmaceutical plants.

    On October 23, 1998 the BBC reported a Chief Petty officer in the Royal Navy was sentenced to 12 months in jail for leaking information to the media about a plot by Saddam Hussein to launch anthrax attacks inside the UK. The deadly toxin was to be smuggled into the UK disguised as harmless liquids. The story appeared in The Sun on March 24, 1998 under the headline 'Saddam's Anthrax in Our Duty Frees.'

    The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 31, 1998 stated, "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime." This legislation also allocated $97,000,000 to aid Iraqi democratic opposition organizations.

    On November 15, 1998 the New York Times reported a massive air strike involving hundreds of cruise missiles was called off after a last-minute flurry of diplomatic activity. The New York Times reported, "Administration officials said Mr. Clinton had been urged by senior advisers to begin the air strikes earlier this week, if only to avoid the situation that is now unfolding, with the United States left once again in the awkward position of rushing a huge force to the Persian Gulf to confront Iraq, only to have the Iraqis back down at the last minute. But Mr. Clinton, they said, had decided to delay the attack until today so that more American warplanes and ships could be in place near Iraq. Officials said they feared that the Administration, which had largely abandoned hope that the United Nations weapons inspections would be allowed to resume in any meaningful way, was left with the worst of all scenarios: an ineffective inspection program, President Hussein still fully in charge, and a large American military force in the Persian Gulf without a clear mission."

    On December 16, 1998 President Bill Clinton ordered an attack on Iraq's nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors. Clinton said, "Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction. If Saddam defies the world and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors. He will make war on his own people. And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them. Because we're acting today, it is less likely that we will face these dangers in the future."

    On December 17, 1998 The Washington Post reported, "The opening U.S. attack against Iraq yesterday involved more than 200 cruise missiles launched from ships in the Persian Gulf and scores of bombs dropped from aircraft flying from the carrier USS Enterprise against targets across the country, defense officials said. With the strikes planned to last at least three days and possibly longer, officials said U.S. and British warplanes stationed in Persian Gulf states and B-52 bombers operating out of the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia would join the effort, which aims to pummel a broad range of targets critical to Iraq's weapons manufacturing and President Saddam Hussein's hold on power."

    In an August 3, 1999 interview, Richard Butler, former chief weapons inspector for UNSCOM, said that Saddam Hussein had an "addiction" for weapons of mass destruction.

    On September 8, 2001 the Washington Times wrote about a recently declassified semiannual CIA report covering the period from July to December of 2000. The CIA reported to congress that, "In the absence of UNSCOM or other inspections and monitoring since late 1998, we remain concerned that Iraq may again be producing biological warfare agents. Iraq has continued working on its L-29 unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) program, which involves converting L-29 jet trainer aircraft originally acquired from Eastern Europe. It is believed that Iraq has conducted flights of the L-29, possibly to test system improvements or to train new pilots. These refurbished trainer aircraft are believed to have been modified for delivery of chemical or, more likely, biological warfare agents." The CIA reported that, "Although we were already concerned about a reconstituted nuclear weapons program, our concerns were increased last September when Saddam publicly exhorted his 'Nuclear Mujahidin' to 'defeat the enemy'."

    On November 25, 2001 The Washington Post wrote an article with details regarding Iraq's germ warfare program. According to the article, U.N. weapons inspectors got their first glimpse of Iraq's biological weapons program during an August 1991 inspection of Salman Pak, one of Iraq's premier biological weapons facilities. Iraqi documents later obtained by the United Nations indicated that Baghdad subsequently filled more than 50 bombs and missile warheads with a liquid form of anthrax. The Washington Post also reported that Iraq acknowledged producing at least 19,000 liters of botulinum toxin, using more than half to fill at least 116 bombs and missile warheads.

    On September 12, 2002 George W. Bush gave a speech before the United Nations. Armed with a point-by-point list of Saddam Hussein's transgressions included in a White House paper entitled "A Decade of Deception and Defiance" of the United Nations, the President detailed how Saddam continued to develop weapons of mass destruction, engage in egregious human-rights violations, participated in international terrorism, and sought to evade economic sanctions and kept Kuwaiti property that should have been returned after the 1991 Gulf War.

    On September 24, 2002, the British government released a report titled "Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Assessment of the British Government." It was the judgement of the British government that Iraq had: continued to produce chemical and biological agents; tried covertly to acquire technology and materials which could be used in the production of nuclear weapons; sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa; and had learnt lessons from previous UN weapons inspections and had already begun to conceal sensitive equipment and documentation in advance of the return of inspectors. In his January 28, 2003 State of the Union address, George Bush said, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." This quote would later be referred to as his "famous 16 words."

    United Nations weapons inspectors returned to Iraq on November 27, 2002 for the first time since December 1998. In February 2003, one month prior to the outbreak of war, 14 shells containing mustard gas were destroyed in Iraq under UN supervision. According to the official United Nations report (page 30), samples taken from these shells showed the mustard gas produced over 15 years earlier was not degraded and "still of high quality."

    On March 19, 2003 President George Bush announced, "My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger." Bush said, "We will meet that threat now, with our Army, Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard and Marines, so that we do not have to meet it later with armies of fire fighters and police and doctors on the streets of our cities."

    During the 9/11 hearings, former Clinton Defense Secretary William Cohen testified that the manager of a chemical weapons plant in Sudan (which was funded by Osama bin Laden and later destroyed by U.S. cruise missiles on Aug. 20, 1998) met in Baghdad with an Iraqi nerve gas expert.

    On May 17, 2004, the U.S. military said a roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent had recently exploded near a U.S. military convoy. The discovery of nerve gas was followed by a second revelation from the military that another shell, equipped with mustard gas, had been found two weeks earlier.

    On January 25, 2006, Former Iraqi General Georges Sada gave an interview to FOXNews regarding Iraq's missing WMDs. Sada, a top military advisor and the number two man in the air force, claims that Iraq's chemical weapons were moved to Syria prior to the war. Georges Sada is the author of the book called, "Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein."

    On April 12, 2006 the White House issued a press release in response to an article in the Washington Post that criticized the administration’s claims about weapons of mass destruction and the justifications for war. It stated, "The Washington Post cites Iraqi WMD evidence as the only reason offered by President Bush for unseating Saddam Hussein..... But the President provided many other reasons for liberating Iraq." The press release from the White House listed six other reasons for the war: 1) Saddam Hussein Violated United Nations Security Council Resolutions; 2) Patrolling The UN-Mandated No-Fly Zone, U.S. And Coalition Forces Were Regularly Attacked; 3) Saddam Hussein Brutalized Iraq's Civilian Population; 4) Saddam Hussein Supported And Harbored Terrorist Organizations; 5) Saddam Hussein Had A History Of Pursuing And Using WMD; and 6) Removing Saddam Hussein Brought Freedom To The Heart Of The Middle East. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/04/20060412-8.html" target="_blank">

    WMD found in Iraq. On June 21, 2006, Senator Rick Santorum (R, PA) called press conference and stated, "We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons." Reading from a declassified report Santorum said, "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."

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    #4.3 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST

    NY John - Gee, you should show Bush and Cheney that information, because I haven't heard them mention the found WMD once. I guess they enjoy being ridiculed for not finding WMD in Iraq.

    If you think the war was worth it because a few shells were laying around, you have serious problems prioritizing. Bush and company, indicated that Iraq was actively producing WMD and had a nuclear program, as evidenced by the FORGED Niger documents.

    The war will cost in excess of 3 trillion dollars, the loss of 4500 soldiers lives, and 100s of thosands of soldiers with brain injuries, lost limbs and destroyed lives. Our own inspector, Kay, said there were no WMD in Iraq. They were destroyed after the first gulf war. The rest of your post is so idiotic, I gave up. Santorum is beyond all hope.

    You really should read the links I provided.

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    #4.4 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST

    Ralph, you missed my point. If you had this intel 'before' going into Iraq, what would you have done. In addition, you do know we found 500 tons of 'Yellow Cake' in the Iraq desert which was then shipped to Canada for deposal. Any idea what 'Yellow Cake Uran' is used for? So all the intel that is posted from other countries should have been ignored as well?

      #4.5 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST

      @nj John

      your post #4.3 is long and ardous and nobody would bother to read. It belongs to one place - trash can.

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      #4.6 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:21 PM EST

      To BM,

      That's hogwash.No countries are going to attack Iran,except Israel and possibly the US. That would be a disaster for all concerned. But maybe it needs to happen. Maybe when Israel is hit with the return missiles it will teach them they are not invincible.Maybe when they have to fight a real army,and an enraged population they will understand you can't be the bully on the block without payback. And if we are stupid enough to follow them, maybe that would be best as well. Countless deaths,and countless billions wasted,along with $10 gas will bring the US and the world to depression. But then when the dust clears and the American people look for the guilty to punish for that mess. They'll zero right in on whats left of Israel. And as the Iranian's might say,the US/Israel special relationship,will only be something found in the history books.

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      #4.7 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:28 PM EST

      NJ John,

      NO ONE COULD MISS YOUR FRIKKIN POINT!

      glad to see you have a Google toolbar - 2 or 3 references would have been fine.

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      #4.8 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:37 AM EST
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      These stories are like the up cumming default of Greece.

      Just do it and get it over with. That way the rest of the world can move on.

        Reply#5 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:21 AM EST

        NY John - Here are some prior Zionist predictions.

        Though Israel had secretly done business with the Islamic Republic after the 1979 revolution, seeking to cultivate a Persian wedge against its local Arab enemies, the early 1990s saw a concerted effort by Tel Aviv to portray Iran as a new and existential threat.

        1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front headed by the US." WOW - 20 years later and still no nuclear weapon - Either Israel's intelligence really, really sucks or they make the stuff up for war mongering purposes.

        1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres tells French TV that Iran was set to have nuclear warheads by 1999. "Iran is the greatest threat and greatest problem in the Middle East," Peres warned, "because it seeks the nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious militancy."

        1992: Joseph Alpher, a former official of Israel's Mossad spy agency, says "Iran has to be identified as Enemy No. 1." Iran's nascent nuclear program, he told The New York Times, "really gives Israel the jitters."

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        #5.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST
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        I wish Iran's people would do away with their leader Imahandjob.

        I think the people of Iran do not wish to engage the world in a confrontation over nukes. I believe they just want to live a normal life as do most civilized people around the globe. It always seems to be the leaders that want war and the misery that it brings, not the people.

        Who gets up in the morning saying "I hope my kids don't get killed by the war I started"? No parent that I know.

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        Reply#6 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:23 AM EST

        I wish the same, but the Iranian regime is very brutal and has no respect for its own people's lives, and when they catch or kill someone who is against them, they also go after their entire family and friends.

        Iranian regime will never risk a war, unfortunately Israel is trying to start a war for its own comfort, based on accusations, and will force many countries to get involved in it.

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        #6.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:25 AM EST

        The US has a responsibility to its ALLY, Israel to aid in its defense from belligerent nations bent on seeing them eliminated - its that simple folks. America cannot pick and choose how and when to be a good friend when they have supported Israel as a nation since its inception. America has a past reputation for reneging on its nation interests and allies when they need them most - look it up.

        You can hate Israel all you want but you have to respect their courage when standing up for themselves. They punch above their weight when they have to and do the crappy jobs no one else has the nuts to do...see the Syrian and Iraqi nuclear reactors both taken out - can only imagine what it would be like today if these two nations had actually developed their nukes.

        I just wish Israel could have taken out Pakistan's nuke program in the early days.

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        #6.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:47 AM EST
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        Out of six world powers, Britain, France and Germany are a joke!

        They jump into wars along with US and then start hiding in tents, non-combatant zones or withdrawing.

        Examine their track records in Iraq and Afghanistan.

        Those who want to jump on Iran and Syria, let them jump sky high.

        Let Saudi Arabia and Israel handle Iran and Syria instead of outsourcing their dirty jobs to the US.

        We had enough with their Iraqi wars!

        NO WARS OR INTERVENTIONS FOR TEN YEARS IN ANY NATION!

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        Reply#7 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST

        Iran to world: F__— You.

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        Reply#8 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:59 AM EST

        No kidding...

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        #8.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:49 AM EST
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        Iran, quickly becoming the "North Korea" of the Middle East. Meanwhile, other nations around the globe will experience further decline of their economies due to the oil game. Get ready America, those steep fuel prices are coming.

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        Reply#9 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:21 AM EST

        Iran having nukes isn't America's problem. It's not worth sending more Americans to die over.

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        Reply#10 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:25 AM EST

        Toasty, On this one I have to agree with you. If Israel wants to take on Iran, then more power to them. I say provide them with all the intell we have, but they want to send in the troops, then it is up to them. We have enough problems here at home, and we need to spend our money here. As to the oil prices, the majority of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico. We need to deal with the Canadians and the Mexicans as to oil prices. Let the rest of the world deal with the middle east. I say pull out of the middle east all together.

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        #10.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:09 AM EST

        Toasty, are you really that naaive? You really believe that IF Iran gets a nuke, they won't use it? If they do, or sell it to a proxy to use, most likely here in the US, it's none of our business. Your a fool!

          #10.2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:39 PM EST

          Toasty McGrath 5 checks, NY John 0. Your proof Iran would use a nuclear weaponor sell it, is?

          A. Pulled it out of my a$$

          B. Typical Zionist propaganda

          C. Fear mongering

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          #10.3 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:17 PM EST

          I take it you haven't thought through the consequences of invading Iran any more than you thought through the consequences they'd face should they use a nuclear weapon. When you're dealing with national security matters, you can't just take an elementary school level of analysis, John. You have to look several steps ahead of the immediate action.

          Iran wants to increase its power and standing, that's why it wants a nuke. Nobody in any serious position of information thinks that they'll attack Israel with it the moment they develop one, and to suggest otherwise is childish, and is actually a rather dangerous mindset.

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          #10.4 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:51 PM EST
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          Israel loses credibility because it does not disclose its nuclear weapons capability. Arab nations in the middle east have had to live with a "likely" nuclear Israel. A nuclear Iran would not dare strike Israel. The problem is terrorists within Iran getting the technology. If agents from Israel can access nuclear scientists, I would imagine anyone could.

          It is a no-win situation and a great challenge for Obama. Like it or not, he has the big chair. I do not envy him.

            Reply#11 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:33 AM EST

            Hugh - I have always said they couldn't pay me enough to be the President. Just goes to show it's not all state dinners and glamor. Ever notice how old our Presidents look when they leave office?

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            #11.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST
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            Toasty's comment "Iran having nukes isn't America's problem", shows the ignorance of anyone who doesn't see Iran as a threat to us. As goes Israel, so goes the U.S. . it's that simple.

            Wake up America or it will be too late!

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            Reply#12 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:58 AM EST

            And your credentials are what exactly, Professor?

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            #12.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 4:52 PM EST
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            russia china want iran ro reveal everything yeah !!!! who was it that constructed the first nuclear plant in the first place russia why dont russia and china join the rest of the world and get rid of these third world countries then maybe the world can live in peace get the regime out of syria before many more civilians are killed russia and china can supply troops and arms to get this sorted out so the people can decide who they want in power the russians and chinese vetoed the situation in syria why because they have a vested interest in supplying this nut job with weapons in return for naval bases lets just get this over with before its too late now the iranians want to talk after photos have been released is just another stalling tactic wake up before its too late

              Reply#13 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:02 AM EST

              The world should be asking Israel to open its neclear sites to the world if you really want to get scared. Israel is one of the most dangerous terrortist nations in the world. Any thing happening in any country in the world that the Israeli government doesn't agree with there is the threat of neclear war with Israel and the US government will do as it is told by Israel and support any action they take anywhere in the world. The US government is a puppet of the Israel government and will remain a puppet until the nations of the of the world disarm Israel.

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              Reply#14 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:03 AM EST

              Iran is not going to open any military site to inspectors. Period. They are once again simply stalling for time. The inspectors may get to see a site that has been totally scrubbed of any nuclear technology, but never will see the inside of any active site where nuclear research or development is still going on. Iran is desperately trying to develop a nuclear weapon while trying to tell the world that's not what they are doing. They will stumble sooner or later and detonate one -- possibly inside the development facility -- while testing the trigger. We'll all know for certain when that happens. Iran seriously considers their scientists smarter than any other nuclear scientists in the world, and they will not pay any attention to mistakes and disasters that happened anywhere else in the world -- until they have a detonation or a meltdown. The only cure for Iran is aerosol Valium and testosterone blockers.

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              Reply#15 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:05 AM EST

              Highly possible but we said the same thing about Saddam Husein and got into a war over it. That turned out to be a big fat lie and boy have we paid for it. We wouldn't even be having this discussion today if we hadn't taken out Saddam. He was our own personal check mark on Iran and then we removed him. Now here we are.

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              #15.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:53 AM EST
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              Amazing how supporters of Islamic terrorism try to spin this issue into one about Israel. No one worries if France or England possesses nuclear weapons because they are regarded as rational powers, but a screw driver in the hands of a maniac is a threat to us all. Such is the lot in which the Iranian mullahs have cast themselves.

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              Reply#16 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:13 AM EST

              You can't trust these maggots. Just nuc them and get it over with.

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              Reply#17 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:15 AM EST

              so russia or china should nuke us also fool

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              #17.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:25 AM EST

              Airborn7, This discussion page is not for children. Go to school and learn to spell.

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              #17.2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST
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              ag 99 you must be a neo con.. please tell me when did IRAN attack any other country... they have a right to nukes just like us ( who used them in JAPAN ) WMD"S) Israel has nukes and nothing is said about them.. we cannot continue to be this was just to the countries we do not like..it is wrong no matter how you feel about them.. a combat veteran

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              Reply#18 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:24 AM EST

              Iran invaded Iraq during the eight-year war, and held the strategic Al Faw peninsula.

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              #18.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:10 PM EST

              Gary, are you really that naaive? They did attack Iraq, have terrorists proxies around the world which they supply with weapons, and have threaten to 'eliminate Isreal' at the first opportunity. No, I'm not a neo con, just a concerned American who doesn't want to see a Nuclear War break out in the Middle East, which will almost ensure that we get involved. Yes, Isreal has nukes...good for them. Have they used them, NO....have they threatened to use them, NO! So what the hell is your point?

                #18.2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST
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                Imposing restrictions to influences that destroys your own culture is a noble thing and a smart thing.Look at India how they are speaking English in Hindi films.What is modernism??Modernism is a betterment of the past and it doesn't only mean to make super smart semiconductors but it means to show how greatly a country has prospered from 100 years ago and Iran has done something that no other nations has been able to,maybe China but again what I see on the internet of naked Chinese women in unbelievable scenes makes me wander 'where has the respect gone to?' and if this is what the world has become from the past 20years,what will happen in the next 20years?These questions makes me feel like "if I bring a life into this world he/she will be a part of a great sin" therefore I think doing that is a big sin-adding one more life to sin filled world who will go through everything I have seen and even greater sins.What Iran has done is great to all extents and has given the world a hint of her nobleness.BISMILLAH

                  Reply#19 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:25 AM EST

                  Where is "The World"'s big voice demanding inspecters be allowed to inspect Israel's illegal nuclear weapons facility-- have Israel open its nuclear weapons facility for full international inspections?

                  Where is "The World" demading the Israel Regime cease and desist its years of aparthied against the Palistinian Peoples; "The World" demainding Israel stop immediately building all the Internationally condemned buildings of illegal Jewish Settlements on the Palestinian's land?

                  Where are the men and women of "The World" with guts enough to express their Freedom to Speak their minds, especaily in "America, Home of The Free adn The Brave," demanding an honest evaluation of this dance macabre with U.S and Israel? It is embarrassing for "The World" to watch our American Leaders stumble over themeslves like spineless wimps in front of the world to kiss Aipac butts, and reveal the sickening double-standard this Frankenstien inflicts on the weak of the world? Surely no other peoples iin the Middle East can now have any faith in American standing up for even their fundamental rights as human beings.

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                  Reply#20 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:27 AM EST

                  It doesn't matter Jennifer, ALL Arab countries hate the West, Hate America, Hate freedom, Hate Christians & Jews, so don't worry about them not having "FAITH" in America. The difference between Iran and Israel specific to inspections is that Israel NEVER signed the nuclear accord as Iran did. Hence Iran has been out of compliance for nearly 10yrs. Moreover Israel has NEVER said they would wipe Iran or any Arab nation of the face of the earth as Iran has said TWICE when talking about Israel! Lastly every nuclear expert (even the liberal ones), say that if/when Iran gets one or is perceived to have one, Egypt, Turkey, the Saudi's and other nations WILL start a program and subsequent arms race.

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                  #20.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:04 PM EST

                  To Jennifer,

                  That's why they despise us.You got it right.

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                  #20.2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:48 PM EST

                  To RPM,

                  Once again you show that history is not your long suit. Israel several times has threatened to use nuclear weapons if they thought they needed too (just like other nuclear powers). As far as the countries you mentioned getting nuclear weapons. As the Iran nuclear program shows,you don't just pick them up at Walmart.It takes a lot of money,high-class nuclear scientists,and years of effort,just to begin a nuclear weapons program. Basically,it wouldn't be worth even trying for them to do it. All they need to do is what they do now, shelter behind the US nuclear umbrella.

                  But back to your statements about Israel not threatening nuclear attack,here is from the Samson Option:

                  "The U.S. did not understand that Israel saw the Soviet Union as its number one threat; that even before he became President Nixon’s National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger had told Israeli leaders that the U.S. would not help Israel if the Soviets attacked it; that Israeli missiles targeted the Soviet Union from 1971 on; that the Soviets had added four Israeli cities to their target list; that the Soviets had threatened Israel after the 1973 war because Israel kept breaking ceasefires with Egypt.

                  "Hersh alleges that the Soviets learned about and communicated to Egyptian President Anwar Sadat Israeli threats to use the Samson Option in the 1973 war."

                  "Menachem Begin's conservative party coalition, which took power in 1977, was more committed to “the Samson Option and the necessity for an Israeli nuclear arsenal” than the Labor Party. Rather than merely react to attack, they intended to “use Israeli might to redraw the political map of the Middle East.” Begin, who hated the Soviet Union, immediately targeted more Soviet cities with nuclear weapons."

                  "Hersh includes two threatening sounding quotations from Israeli leaders. He writes that a “former Israeli govt official” with “first hand knowledge of his government’s nuclear weapons program told him:

                  We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us. "

                  "And he quotes then Israeli defense minister Ariel Sharon as saying:

                  We are much more important than (Americans) think. We can take the Middle East with us whenever we go."

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                  #20.3 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:24 AM EST
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                  Yep, that's it.. just let the inspectors in and go wherever they want to. Now, how about the SAME statement and conditions placed on ISRAEL? And are we going to allow international inspectors into the US? Lol. Such hypocrites! We demand by force, if necessary, others to comply to our will, yet we SELECTIVELY enforce or abide by the same standards that we demand others to follow. So, again. Israel open up YOUR nuclear arsenal for inspection! Yep Airbornn7, then the Russians, Chinese, and Pakistan can all launch theirs too. My opinion, which is just as valid as any of yours, is before we start down this slippery-slope... just one question to ALL American's: Is Israel worth dying for? Simple question, really. That is what will occur, THAT is what Putin was warning the west, yesterday about. There is NO WAY that they will allow Israel or the US to attack, without a counter-attack. Period. So, yes, the question is, would you sacrafice yourself and the rest of your family for Israel? There you have it. Nuff said. It just comes down to that.

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                  Reply#21 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:35 AM EST

                  Iran didn't sine the International nuclear agreement, IRAN DID! Israel hasn't said they would wipe Iran off the face of the earth but IRAN said it about Israel TWICE! Israels Jewish leaders ( as do Muslims and Christians) believe in Armageddon but unlike Iran's leaders they don't want to be their generation to be party to it. Moreover the radical leaders in Iran actually believe they are "rewarded" by Alla for initiating the last war. And yes, Israel and Jews are worth dying for. And let's not be so blind as to think even if we stay out of it for a while, the oil supply (or lack thereof), will shut down our economy. This will in turn draw us into it eventually even if we chose to stay out if it initally.

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                  #21.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:12 PM EST
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                  The girl playing the guitar will not be smiling when she finds herself as a human shield and sees the bright flash and heat of an Israelee bomb or rocket! She better start praying to Alah! Then again he will be running to!

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                  Reply#22 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:38 AM EST

                  brat-"The girl playing the guitar will not be smiling when she finds herself as a human shield and sees the bright flash and heat of an Israelee bomb or rocket! She better start praying to Alah! Then again he will be running to!"

                  That's pretty funny.I wonder how funny you'll think it is when those return missiles are turning Tel Aviv into a burning shell.

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                  #22.1 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:31 AM EST
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                  It's interesting that Israel is so up-in-arms about Iran when Israel will neither confirm nor deny whether they have nuclear weapon capability.

                  If we wanted to keep tabs on Iran, we should have imbedded ourselves in their nuclear program from the beginning, offering help to initiate a peaceful nuclear power program there. It's been said to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

                  Anyone that suggests that we wipe out Iran with nuclear weapons now is simply inhumane, idiotic, unthinking and a total douche. Even if Iran ever develops a nuclear weapon do you seriously think they would employ it and risk being the target of other nuclear nations? You would have to be very subnormal IQ to believe that.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#23 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:44 AM EST

                  brat - We don't confirm or deny either. Ask any sailor aboard a U.S. Navy ship.

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                  #23.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST

                  They may or may not use it if they had it.... First and foremost the leaders in Iran aren't typical Muslims, they are radicals that actually believe they are blessed to be part of ushering in Armageddon (yes the Koran has it in the end of their holy book too). However, they would most likely just arm their terrorist arms as they do now with conventional weapons. That way when one goes off in Israel or America they can tell the world they didn't shoot it off even if the isotope is theirs. Lastly Iran signed the international nuclear agreement, Israel did not. As such Iran has been out of legal compliance and Israel has not.

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                  #23.2 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:17 PM EST

                  And Ronster, you should read the Koran about the last war since you have "666" in your name, I would assume you are on their side?

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                  #23.3 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:22 PM EST
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                  "An IAEA report last year revealed a trove of intelligence pointing to research activities in Iran..." REALLY??? That supposed treasure trove consisted of recycled allegations and doctored memorandums obtained from Israeli security that Mohammed El Baradei rejected previously as forged or unreliable. The Russian scientists named as assisting Iran obtain the bomb work in non-nuclear fields...it was as if they were alleging that 'butterfly collectors' held the secret to atomic weapons research! Where does Reuters get the gall to put out this nonsense?

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                  Reply#24 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:52 AM EST

                  Once you got nukes, you get respect and become a world power and can then tell another country who to do. China, India, Pakistan, etc. were all evil empires and were all trying to take over the world when they were trying to get nukes. But once those countries got nuke, they got respect. Are we willing to invade North Korea now, heck we are not even threatening them anymore.

                  This is the balance of power. When the US developed nuclear weapons, the Russian must have them and did.

                  Then the allies of the US France and Britain have them, therefore China the ally of Russian get them too.

                  India got nuke and therefore India's rival Pakistan got then also. When Israel have nukes what do the world expect, off course their rivals will get them too or at least try. When Israel have a couple of hundred nukes in their pocket, all the rest of the countries in the Middle East will want them too.

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#25 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:53 AM EST

                  Robbie you make some valid points but there are some things you left out. Israel has nukes but they are surrounded by their enimies (Arab/Muslim nations). Yet there is balance there because it's akin to one guy with a gun surrounded by 8 with knives. Moreover you spoke of N Korea and the world (perhaps outside of China), doesn't want to make that mistake again. "Big Guns" are one thing, but in the hands of phyco's at any level are not a good idea.

                  • 4 votes
                  #25.1 - Thu Mar 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST

                  RPM -Just because you believe Iran is led by phsycos does not make it true. The Zionist controlled media has been working hard for years to brain wash weak minds, such as yours, to believe that baloney.

                  You seem to miss many facts. One fact you missed is that Iraq started the Iraq -Iran war, by attacking Iran. Iran has not started a war in around 180 years, while Israel has attacked every country around them in the past 50 years.

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                  #25.2 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST
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