Report: Bin Laden told followers to kill Obama, Petraeus

Letters from Osama bin Laden to his aides show the terrorist was plotting to kill President Obama and US General David Petraeus. David Ignatius of the Washington Post was given exclusive access to the documents and shares what he learned.

Osama bin Laden told his followers to work on a plan to kill Barack Obama and Gen. David Petraeus by attacking their aircraft, according to documents found in the slain terror leader’s compound, The Washington Post reported Friday.

The Post said that it had been given an exclusive look at “some of these remarkable documents,” which it said had been declassified and would be made public soon.


AP Photo/Department of Defense, File

This undated image from video seized from the walled compound of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan and released by the U.S. Department of Defense shows a man identified by the U.S. government as Osama Bin Laden in front of a television.

Administration officials told the Post that the plot to kill Obama and Petraeus had not reached the stage where it was a serious threat. The Post said it was “probably bluster,” but was a "chilling reminder" of the scale of bin Laden's ambition.

“The reason for concentrating on them,” bin Laden told an al-Qaida officer, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, according to the Post report, “is that Obama is the head of infidelity and killing him automatically will make (Vice President Joe) Biden take over the presidency. … Biden is totally unprepared for that post, which will lead the U.S. into a crisis. As for Petraeus, he is the man of the hour… and killing him would alter the (Afghan) war’s path.”

Bin Laden: Al-Qaida has image problem
Bin Laden also told Atiyah to concentrate “every effort that could be spent on attacks in America,” and to “ask the brothers in all regions if they have a brother … who can operate in the U.S. [He should be able to] live there, or it should be easy for him to travel there,” the Post report said.

Arshad Butt / AP

The world reacts after Osama bin Laden is killed in a U.S. military operation in Pakistan.

The documents also show bin Laden was worried about al-Qaida’s image – to the point that he thought it should change its name.

The Post said bin Laden believed his terror network had a brand problem because U.S. officials “have largely stopped using the phrase ‘the war on terror’ in the context of not wanting to provoke Muslims,” instead talking about the war against al-Qaida.

He suggested 10 alternatives, the paper reported, with one being “Taifat al-tawhid wal-jihad,” or Monotheism and Jihad Group.

Bin Laden also described the killing of Muslims by al-Qaida as “mistakes” and “miscalculations” and said ever local leader should be told to avoid “unnecessary civilian casualties.”

NBC's Andrea Mitchell profiles Osama bin Laden who commanded a business empire dedicated to terrorism.

The 54-year-old terror leader was killed by a U.S. raid on his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, on May 2 last year.

He had lived there since mid-2005 with his three wives, eight children, five grandchildren and others, making a total of 28 people. His 24-year-old son Khaled was also killed in the raid.

Pakistan intelligence officials and an al-Qaida member said there were concerns about his mental health before his death, according to Brig. Shaukat Qadir, a retired Pakistani army officer who spent months researching the events surrounding bin Laden's death.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Sorry, we got you first.

And not a moment too soon! I don't want Biden as head of state.

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#1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

What ever gave them the idea that bin-Laden had mental health issues?

Maybe it was all those reruns of Jeopardy he was watching.

.

  • 12 votes
#1.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

“Taifat al-tawhid wal-jihad,”

Say this 10 times really fast, you will never be the same again.

  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

I don't think the Bush assassination documents were ever released. If they were, they were never made public like this. I don't think there is really any need to do these, is there?

  • 15 votes
#1.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

from the FBI website (www.fbi.gov):

"Bin Laden is the leader of a terrorist organization known as Al-Qaeda, "The Base". He is left-handed and walks with a cane."

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:48 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMother Cluster DuckExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

advantage OBAMA!! say goodnite gracie. Obama- he hunted him down, he smoked him out, and served him some rough justice. just as Obama promised he would do. completely baffling that obl was living there since 2005. "W", what was ya thunkin?

  • 43 votes
#1.5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:55 PM EDT
Comment author avatarredvirginiaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Sorry for Biden , he think he is good for the job, but our worst enemy now dead , beleave he was not. NOBAMA, NOBIDEN.

  • 9 votes
#1.6 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

Do you really write like that VA? That is horrible, you must be from western VA.

  • 25 votes
#1.7 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:05 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSeekingSanityExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

redvirginia - can you write in understandable sentences? Probably not!

robiscoole - not nice to western VA. I was thinking Arizona!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 27 votes
#1.8 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:05 PM EDT
Comment author avatarredvirginiaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No , I'm a consecuence of our education system.

  • 9 votes
#1.9 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

Believable until the Biden comments, then it sounds like an article from The Onion.

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:12 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBluelakeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

redvirginia--No, I think your mother was drunk and smoked three packs a day for the nine months before your birth.

  • 10 votes
#1.11 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

Blue Lake

I never mention you or your mother in my comments, I'm not going to respond you and put myself so low. Shame of you.

  • 11 votes
#1.12 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

I think Osama pretty much told his followers to kill ALL of us. . .so this isn't really news.

  • 17 votes
#1.13 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

Being stuck in the house for six years with three wives, eight children, and five grandchildren is actually pretty funny. No wonder they were concerned with his mental health.

  • 27 votes
#1.14 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

redvirginia- You are right, I overstepped. I apologize to you and your mother. I'm sorry.

  • 26 votes
#1.15 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:54 PM EDT
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Comment author avatarchuck-2111043Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

well all i have to say is that a Obama did in 2 years what Little Bush couldn't or wouldn't do in 8 years. I think we all know that Bush was not going to kill OBL. Hell they are family friends and oil partners. I bet all the Rep's are just so pissed that Obama got OBL on his watch.

  • 30 votes
#1.17 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTomTom-72Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Bin Laden told followers to kill Obama....

But Obama got that son-of-a-bitch first.

  • 32 votes
#1.18 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:43 PM EDT
Comment author avatarShawn-3075132Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I hate to burst your bubbles but the intelligence gathering to get Bin laden was set in place by George W. Bush. Obama did not get OBL. Our Navy SEALS did. It's amazing how liberals are nothing more than sheep, following blindly. You would thik Obama was the second coming of Christ instead of some @!$%# thats trying to turn the U.S.A into the new U.S.S.R..

  • 25 votes
#1.19 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarlib50Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Bush didn't give a rat's ass about bin Laden. The ultimate decision to get OBL was Obama's, and he made the right decision. Our military carried it out flawlessly. Nobody I know thinks Obama is perfect (or calls him the second coming or Messiah). But we thank GOD that he is the president because the republicans are not fit for the office. None of them. Its embarrassing for the country, but more so for the fools who vote for them. The republicans want to do the same things that got us into a deep recession in the first place (tax cuts and protections to the elite) and budget cuts the hurt the poor and middle class. I reject their old policies and I reject republican attempts to limit women's control over her health. The old 'communist, red scare' bull@!$%# is just that. Obama is governing like a moderate republican of the not so distant past.

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#1.20 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:48 PM EDT

This is terrible news. Would hate to see Petraeus assassinated.

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#1.21 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:57 PM EDT
Comment author avatarjac-931625Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Shawn -You are absolutely correct. I couldn't have said it better myself. Now watch your post get collapsed by the weeny little libs who flock to this liberal MSN website.

  • 13 votes
#1.22 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:58 PM EDT
Comment author avatarthe thinker-318752Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

completely baffling that obl was living there since 2005. "W", what was ya thunkin?

Let's not forget that osama lived there during the whole time that obummer was president. And it still took obummer nearly three years to find him.

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody. What would have been startling was to NOT find plans to kill obummer and military leaders. But of course BSNBC has to inflate the headlines for readership.

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:07 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRobert D. McConnellExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

jac

I guess that makes you a weenie little lib, no?

Obama did it. "w" didn't, Case closed.

  • 19 votes
#1.24 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

The seals did not, and do not act on their own. They do follow orders.

Those orders, were giving by President Obama, not Bush.

If Bush had used the seals. We would not, still be in Afghanistan.

  • 19 votes
#1.25 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:14 PM EDT
Comment author avatarNot a Socialist-1286940Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Report: Bin Laden told followers to kill Obama

Damn. What went wrong?

  • 5 votes
#1.26 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

You would thik Obama was the second coming of Christ instead of some @!$%# thats trying to turn the U.S.A into the new U.S.S.R..

"My Son, I am renaming you Richard Cranium" - Christ

  • 1 vote
#1.27 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

This is terrible news. Would hate to see Petraeus assassinated.

Bill, is this an indirect way of saying that it's OK to assassinate Obama, but not Petraeus?

  • 6 votes
#1.28 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

Not so simple to go into another person's sovereign land and knock somebody off. The funny thing about Obama is I saw the interview with Sec. Gates, and he said that when they discussed this, they took practically a blood oath to just do it and press on, and when he saw Obama at the lectern giving his little announcement that they got him, he was truly "disappointed." So how's that for loyalty. Anything for some street cred. If there weren't grumblings about him being soft on foreign policy, maybe that put pressure on him to take action.

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

Some of you liberals act like Obama personally slit Osama's throat.The only thing Obama was say yes to the killing of Osama,then sat back on a comfterable chair and watched the Seals do all the work.Any president could have done that.And if you hate W for not assassinating Osama within 8 years,then you might as well hate FDR for not assassinating Hitler within 10 years.But I know most of you liberals don't hate FDR,because he's a democrat.If however,if FDR was a Republican,you liberals would be complaining all the time about FDR not assassinating Hitler.

  • 10 votes
#1.30 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:25 AM EDT

Osama bin Laden wanted to kill Obama....

This is not news. For what it is worth, I'm sure that he wanted to kill Bush too.

The only real surprise I read is that he felt Al Qaeda had an image problem.

Why would he think that?

  • 6 votes
#1.31 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:36 AM EDT

Random pennsylvanian....you are an anti American. Why don't you live in Pakistan with the other haters? You would fit in there.

  • 5 votes
#1.32 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:37 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRay el ViejoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Osama kill Obama? No way, Jose. They were compadres....they might as well still compadres.We have not seen any concrete proof that Osama is dead. Just as we have not seen any convincing proof that Hussein Obama was born in the U.S.

  • 6 votes
#1.33 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:37 AM EDT

No dman, I think osama bin laden was quite happy with Mr. Bush.

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:42 AM EDT
Comment author avatarokihaditExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

don't worry about the liberals , they do and say what ever their master wants them to.

  • 8 votes
#1.35 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:53 AM EDT

I find it funny how the pro pubs so easily forget gas prices of late 07 were over 4 bucks a gallon

and the houseing crises was in full bloom under the "W" administration. It is set well in my memory

as I was laid off January 08 before Obama took office.

  • 9 votes
#1.36 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:16 AM EDT
Comment author avatarBluelakeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Bin Ladin knew that Bush would never touch him and he new that Obama would kill him if he could. Bush was a weak willed coward afraid of disturbing his family's relationship with the Bin Ladin family. Way too much money involved. He was so thoughtless about it Bush went in front of the camera to say "I don't really think about him, I don't care whether he is alive or dead." Of course he didn't care, he was too busy doing Cheney's bidding, constructing and pushing the bull@!$%# rationale for the invasion of Iraq. Classic diversion. Saddam! WMD! Al Qaida in Iraq, mushroom clouds and the elevated homeland terror alerts over and over and over again. Keep us on edge and frightened so we wouldn't pay attention to his draining the federal treasury while he cut taxes and went to war. No, he wanted Bin Ladin alive. He needed him as yet another continuing threat.

Obama comes in and within two and a half years tracks him down and kills him. Obama actually reads the intelligence reports and actually listens to his advisers and the military planners. Unlike Bush Obama has no need to keep Bin Ladin alive Bin Ladin knew that. He would have hugged and kissed Bush but he wanted Obama dead. And some of the scum teatards posting here like Bill-857242 are more than happy to imply that they would as well. The republicans offer us nothing but cowards and incompetents and of course, greedy sons of bitches.

  • 17 votes
#1.37 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:19 AM EDT

Random pennsylvanian, do you not know anything about history? There is a big difference between Bin Laden and Hitler. Bin Laden ordered others to strike us on our soil and was successful. Hitler did not. The Japanese were the only country to strike us on our soil during WWII, and at that time, Hawaii was not a state, only an American holding. Back before WWII, our country tried everything to stay out of the war until the Japanese forced our hand by attacking Pearl Harbor.

The second difference between your argument and reality is that both President Bush and President Obama stated they would go after those responsible. Pres. Bush started two wars and while I would be willing to give him credit for getting Saddam Hussein, Saddam was not the problem concerning the attacks on 9/11. Bin Laden was.

And yes, the Seals did the hard work. However, they cannot do that work without the approval of the President.

I have liberal and conservative friends and I don't know of one liberal friend who has "acted" like President Obama "personally" slit his throat (he was shot by the way, not slit in the throat). I'm more of a conservative and I don't hate President Bush for not getting Bin Laden. I am disappointed however. After all, President Bush stood at ground zero saying he would get those responsible. He stood on an aircraft carrier and said "Mission Accomplished", despite the fact that Bin Laden had not yet been captured or killed. And as much as 5-6 years after 9/11, al-Qaida was still either attempting to or actually carrying out terrorist attacks.

By the way, while I can give President Bush credit for preventing an attack on American soil since 9/11, can you also be mature enough to give President Obama credit for preventing and attack on American soil as well? I doubt it. Prove me wrong.

  • 14 votes
#1.38 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:16 AM EDT

BlueLake I think you are foaming at the mouth again. You're very good at making generalizations. My republican Grandfather served this country in three wars and let me tell you he is no coward, nor a fool.

Obama made a risky call (50 / 50 from what I understand) and the intel he received was good. It panned out, good for him, good for US. Don't assume that I liked Bush, I cared for him about as much as I care for Obama. The Patriot Act, and NDAA are examples from each that make me uneasy about our freedom.

My republican veteran grandfather, you know the "cowardly, incompetent greedy SOB" (I do realize I paraphrased you) has a saying I think is pertinent in regards to Obama getting Bin Laden : "Even the sun shines on a dogs butt some days"

Cliché:
Even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days

Explanation:
1. Sooner or later, everyone experinces some good luck.

Country:
United States

  • 3 votes
#1.39 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:45 AM EDT

Some of you liberals act like Obama personally slit Osama's throat.The only thing Obama was say yes to the killing of Osama,then sat back on a comfterable chair and watched the Seals do all the work.Any president could have done that.

...and yet George W. never got around to it.

.And if you hate W for not assassinating Osama within 8 years,then you might as well hate FDR for not assassinating Hitler within 10 years.But I know most of you liberals don't hate FDR,because he's a democrat.If however,if FDR was a Republican,you liberals would be complaining all the time about FDR not assassinating Hitler.

Well, Random, in one breath, you say that "any President could have" directed the finding and killing of Osama bin Laden, then in the next, you excuse George W. Bush for not having done it.

Regarding WWII and FDR'S failure to assassinate Hitler, it is no easy task to undertake the assassination of the head of government in another nation. To hunt down a single individual, who lacks any official protection from any nation on Earth is quite another question. I won't claim that it is easy, but perhaps, just perhaps, if Georgie-Boy had kept our nation's focus on the nations where Osama bin Laden was thought to be hiding, meaning Afghanistan and Pakistan, and not diverted our resources to a totally uninvolved nation, meaning Iraq, he might have got the job done.

He did not. Obama did. It really is that simple.

If FDR had responded to Japan's attack upon Pearl Harbor by invading Brazil, I would hate him, or at least view him as a poor excuse for a world leader. Since he instead declared war on Japan, and when Germany declared war on the U.S., reciprocated, I'd say that, Democrat or Republican, he did his job.

You conservative Bush supporters are always comparing apples to oranges, and then wondering why nobody takes your positions seriously.

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#1.40 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:03 AM EDT

I grew up in a republican family and none of them were cowards etc. etc. I was referring to republican politicians and the past and current load of crap they call presidential candidates. Run of the mill republicans are really, as far as I'm concerned, just badly misguided. I stand by my characterization of republican politicians and the Bush administration.

  • 7 votes
#1.41 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:10 AM EDT

So Blue what are your thoughts then on the re-signing of the patriot act, NDAA, the push for change in aviation laws to allow for use of drones over US Airspace?

Do I need to list republican war heros that later ended up in politics? Do you find the timing for the declassification of these documents referenced in the article to be just a tad convenient?

Who out of the current crop of candidates for the presidency has served our armed forces?

Heck who do the troops support this cycle?

I think I understand what you are talking about with the average republican being misguided and I feel the average democrat to be short-sighted. I also think that if we put aside the R's and the W's for a few we find we have more common ground than differences. Money in politics is a problem(one of many) and politicians as a whole get lobbied.

I asked you many questions, if you are uncomfortable with giving answers or just don't have the time I understand.

  • 2 votes
#1.42 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

terrorist...are a lot like leader's...destroying us with stupidity...

    #1.43 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

    You know its funny, Osama Bin Laden is one dead mother @!$%#er, so who cares what he says, and besides killing the president is a fatal mistake. That will give the U.S. the excuse to nuke the holy Mohammed out of the middle east, Do I hear a WWIII.

    • 3 votes
    #1.44 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

    how many hrs-days did obama delay before giving the aokay?

    chuck--I bet all the Rep's are just so pissed that Obama got OBL on his watch.

    that's only your arrogant mentality to bet we're so pissed along with it took o only 3 yrs. 1. it took 11 yrs period 2. we are proud of obama and seals and usa including bush for getting bin laden. can you ever be happy for someone other than yourself?

      #1.45 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

      lib50--I reject their old policies and I reject republican attempts to limit women's control over her health.

      the one 1 thing you need to be rejecting you are'nt and it concerns you the most. bush tax cuts...you'll never know the diff except for less imaginative job creation due to no incintive for the wealthy. but obamacare will be a disasterous burden to us and the economy. not to mention worthless except for catastrophic purposes. .. outragously expensive and if you don't get annual test the gov mandates (ins doesn't cover it)you will fined by adding $25 a mon the next year on policy. most will pay fine at tax time instead (which was the idea in first place...revenue) and still be uninsured. this is nothing compared to the car ins mandate.. if you're paying for full coverage and feel it''s expensive now you haven't seen anything yet.

        #1.46 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:51 PM EDT

        The Affordable Care Act Has quite a few good provisions..some in effect now...the rest become law in 2014: To name a few..1. a thirty hour work week will be considered full time to qualify for health insurance, 2. No underwriting (pre-existing conditions cannot be used to refuse a person joining), 3. no co-pay for some preventive services..most for cancer screening. 4. waiting periods longer than thirty days are prohibited, 5. no lifetime or annual limits..These are all included in the exchange insurance. In fact it may be wise to opt out of your employers plan as grandfathered and self-insured plans are exempt. And the best provision is if using the exchange insurance, a person is no longer tied to a job he hates because of the need for health insurance. There are many more.

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        #1.47 - Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:15 AM EDT

        Those that opt for the exchange insurance plan of the Affordable care Act will be subsidized if wages are $43,560 or below..a family of four $89,400. There is nothing in the plan that mandates annual tests..however many are free for preventive reasons and help quite a bit to bring down the cost of health care...not to mention those that put off seeing a doctor because they have no insurance will now be able to take care of their health and not wait until it is unbearable using the E.R for service.

        Minimum services covered: Plans must cover preventive
        and primary care, emergency, hospital, physician,
        outpatient, maternity and newborn care, pediatric (including
        dental and vision), medical/surgical care, prescription
        drugs, lab, and mental health and substance abuse,**this is for the exchange insurance

        The first year, (2014) consumers who did not have insurance would owe $95, or 1 percent of income, whichever is greater. But the penalty would subsequently rise, reaching $695, or 2 percent of income.

        Families who fall below the income-tax filing thresholds would not owe anything. Nor would people who cannot find a policy that costs less than 8 percent of their income, said Sara R. Collins, a vice president at the Commonwealth Fund, an independent nonprofit research group.

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        #1.48 - Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:37 AM EDT
        Reply

        Hating America is a culture over there. They can't date, play stringed instruments, dance, or enjoy life. Instead, they spend their time hating Americans and burning the flag. That's pretty much their contribution to mankind...There's one other, memorizing the Koran.

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        #2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:15 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarClothoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Clearly, hating them is a culture over here too.

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        #2.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

        Clotho: Maybe but we didn't start it. ;->

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        #2.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

        Clotho, it's not a culture it's a defence, big difference.

        • 12 votes
        #2.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

        Dogma, my three year old daughter uses that excuse when she hits another child at daycare.

        • 14 votes
        #2.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

        I don't hate them just because, but watching someone burn my flag and then get mad about the burning of fake religious literature is upsetting. Before anyone gets all hurt about my comments, I think all religious lit belongs in the Fiction section of the library. We should pick up and leave the region.

        • 19 votes
        #2.5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

        Clotho: Maybe but we didn't start it. ;->

        It would appear that the US and British conquests, Puppet Leaders we've placed, and several other 'Nation Building' examples, as well as Oil Hegemony have perhaps been true instigators of the actions taken on the Hate we built by doing Imperialistic things for so many decades had something to do with it.

        This doesn't make it OK or right or excusable, but...

        Just saying...

        There will never be Peace in this World as long as Humans "run" it.

        Peace

        • 6 votes
        #2.6 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

        Dogma Bites you are full of it. We definately did start it, first by supporting Isreal, and then by american attitudes towards Arabs, then by invading, and bombing. Which organization is the most effective terror organization?

        • 6 votes
        #2.7 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

        Do you have another idea of who or what would run it? We could go back a few thousand years, I suppose, ideal life that was. Actually, much further back, lot of slewing, slaying, rape, pillage, burning to the ground, and salting the Earth, etc. Damn, and I missed it. All God's chillun was running it then. Then Jesus and the boys, man, if things were gonna get better he should have wiggled his nose and made it so. Bottom line, ain't gonna be no Utopia, so get used to it. Peace has a heavy price, paid for by few, and enjoyed by many, (Then the question might arise, "Whose definition of peace").

        • 3 votes
        #2.8 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:31 PM EDT

        Charles;

        Out of touch with reality much?

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        #2.9 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

        As a proud voter northern va red embarrasses va

        he the reason va wants to attack womens rights

        • 3 votes
        #2.10 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:57 PM EDT

        rights???

          #2.11 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

          Very few Dems will accept the fact that George Bush put all the tracking place in for catching ole Bin.

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          #2.12 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:02 PM EDT

          Just want to ask a question, when the drones were bombing innocents the President was being blamed by people on the right. Yet when he issues the orders to continue the search and ultimately the execution people on the right mention its the SEALS whom conducted the action with no mention of the President. Rationale is very flawed because many are blaming hi for high gas prices when he has no control the EXON CEO said so as did Ben Stein yet you are blaming him for this yet not giving credit for accomplishments.

          • 6 votes
          #2.13 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

          It would appear that the US and British conquests,

          No, Radical Islam was the agressor from 600 AD on. Whomever taught you about their culture didn't understand squat about the middle east. Remember, those towers weren't collapsed because we built them over there. They went to great efforts to bring them down when we weren't really doing anything to them.

          • 3 votes
          #2.14 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

          dlc---Yet when he issues the orders to continue the search....many are blaming hi for high gas prices when he has no control

          when were the issues ever canceled to search for bin laden? tell me. and obama can be blamed for saying we need to get prices near equivalent to europe or whomever he said...look it up for exact quote....which tells me he is not concerned even if he has no control. we shouldn't be driving that far to work or using all that oil...so it's our own fault anyway right?

          • 1 vote
          #2.15 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:17 AM EDT

          Hello DB,

          Both of our points are valid, and contributory to the rise in "Radical Muslim" activity, however it is too late to lower our guard one iota. Which does play right into the hands of those wishing us harm and willing to act out on it. I do believe that is a very minute percentage of the World Muslim population, though.

          I was warned in the eighties by a Jordanian friend of mine in college (I had several Muslim friends of different sects due to the fact I was notsojingo even back then) that we would be targeted due more to Western Governments' infringements and military involvement with Oil Shieks protection than the fact American's are considered Infidels.

          Had no idea at the time he was so in the know...

          Peace

            #2.16 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:02 AM EDT

            raddave

            Dogma, my three year old daughter uses that excuse when she hits another child at daycare.

            Maybe you should listen to her.

            • 1 vote
            #2.17 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:23 PM EDT
            Reply
            Comment author avatarThe Punjab of Java PourExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            A least we know Bin Laden had some good sense; even he knew that Blabber Mouth Bite-Me Biden is an idiot!

            • 18 votes
            Reply#3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

            Excuse me, Punjab? 'Bin Laden had some good sense?"....seems like the only idiot is you.

            • 38 votes
            #3.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

            See, people like punjab are so crazy...and we worry about other countries. We have many a crazy freak right here. Just look at comments like his. sick

            • 12 votes
            #3.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

            Actually, I thought Osama's comment was rather funny. I mean, even HE knows that Biden isn't fit to lead. Now that's funny. BTW, I voted for the current administration and will likely do so again. Can you imagine what would have been said if Palin had won VP?

            • 13 votes
            #3.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

            Dogma bites we actually did start things, the CIA has been running operations and play the middle east likea chess board for years. thats part of how it was so easy to get people to do his bidding. we were responsible for a lot of really bad leaders and choices. that said while it was cause for them to be angry, it wasnt a valid reason to do what they did. they took things to far. end of the day it doesnt matter who started it, what matters is that we try and do better in the future, and that we try to repair relations with the nations of the middle east. we may not succeed but if we try then at least we have a clear conscious.

            • 3 votes
            #3.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

            The Punjab - your post says more about you than it ever does about President Obama or VP Biden. And, none of what it says is good.

            • 10 votes
            #3.5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

            The Punjab of Java Pour

            A least we know Bin Laden had some good sense; even he knew that Blabber Mouth Bite-Me Biden is an idiot!

            My God!!!!!! 3,000 people dead and he had a good sense?? Biden is still a thousand times better and smarter than dumb Palin.

            Theres no way you are here in America or are an American citizen?? You're in another country... are you?

            I have seen some very dumb posts from some righties but never anything like that...

            • 6 votes
            #3.6 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:43 PM EDT
            Reply

            See? More proof that Obama is a secret muslim terrorist. In fact, he even donated a FREE bullet to Al Qaeda last May.

            • 40 votes
            Reply#4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

            I like to start my weekend with a good laugh-thank you all!!

            • 10 votes
            #4.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

            These morons that believe that President Obama is a Muslim are completely disconnected from reality.

            Now, if we could keep those same people from voting, we'd have something better all over America.

            They live in a delusional/fantasy 1960's world with Ward and June Cleaver. How quickly they forget about the reality of the Cold War, Polio, 58,000 dead Americans in Vietnam and uncured diseases that we've since found cures for. Those days will never come back and I am glad. It's 2012 people!

            • 12 votes
            #4.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

            When it comes to destroying Americaa, obama will tolerate NO competition.....

            • 7 votes
            #4.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

            Really Rancher? Because between killing terrorists left and right, saving the auto industry, and ensuring that fewer Americans will die because they can't afford health insurance, I'd say he's done a pretty good job at saving America...

            Republicans should go back to attacking women. They've already lost every other argument left.

            • 8 votes
            #4.4 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

            d-m, you dumb liberals are so out of touch or complete slaves to obuma. he may be your master, but when he is done with you he'll cast you out like anyone else.

            • 1 vote
            #4.5 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:06 AM EDT

            Great news....my health insurance just went from $784/month to $1269/month....thanks Obama!

            • 1 vote
            #4.6 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:30 AM EDT

            You sure it wasn't the profit-driven insurance company's idea? I mean, it's their price after all...

            • 5 votes
            #4.7 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

            You can't confuse racist bigots with facts. They kiss the rear of the corporations who exploit them while somehow feeling they are superior because their skin is white. The corporations just laugh at them and their delusional thinking all the way to the bank!

            • 2 votes
            #4.8 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:16 PM EDT
            Reply

            Don't mess with President Obama. His healthcare plan has a special lead poisoning provision!

            • 16 votes
            Reply#5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

            Kool-aid from Uganda

            • 4 votes
            #5.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

            The ONLY problem with Obamacare is that we left the 'CORPORATE' death panels in place because Obama decided he would NOT turn healthcare into a government run program. I agree with that decision. But, I do NOT want some corporate (or government) jerk deciding when and how I will die.

            The solution? SINGLE PAYER! Obama needs to make single payer a priority in his second term.

            BTW, yes, I said second term. Why? How?

            Because there is literally NO competition on the Republican side. Your choices are:

            (1) A Wall Street Banker (Romney) who want's to continue favoring the rich at the expense of the middle class,

            (2) A religious zealot who wants women to consider RAPE a GIFT (Santorum).

            (3) And the always evil Newt Gingrich, who wants to lock-up the country again in deadlock while he dreams of going to the moon, again. These are a truly pitiful lot. . .

            • 1 vote
            #5.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:27 AM EDT
            Reply

            hey osama

            how'd that work out for ya?

            • 23 votes
            Reply#6 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

            I totally read that in Dexter Morgan's voice.

            • 2 votes
            #6.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:45 PM EDT
            Reply
            Comment author avatarHawaii2Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            This is just Speculation.

            Has the Government shown us the Written Documents re: Osama's Orders to do away with Obama, and Petraeus, wanting to make Biden the President? Biden is not going to be a running mate with Obama in the coming Election for 2012/his words come without any thought; maybe due to a brain injury long ago---It could be a Campaign Tactic to win the Presidency from our Government.

            Just words from OBL, if it turns out to be true---ex Pres. Bush must have been the main target for sure..

            How much of the Terrorism lately has been due to Osama Bin Laden?.

            Most of the orders are coming from Ahdinemajad, the Khomeni's, Hezbollah, and the Military Guard there. They are our biggest threat and enemy.

            Splinter groups have been decimated--Al Qaida is weak, (Alwalki gone) and so are the other splinter Terrorist Groups. It is "The Enemy from Within" that matters now.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#7 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

            thats what i say, if it was obumas name on there it was just to throw us off, in thinking he is not muslim........

              #7.1 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:00 AM EDT

              Are you "F"ing Morons Serious w/this Obama muslim garbage !!!!!! Why don't you ignorant hate filled rednecks just come out and admit that YOU ARE RACIST ... and you haven't got anything REAL to criticize him about so you run w/this childish muslim accusation, when in reality you hate him just because he's black.

              • 1 vote
              #7.2 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:30 AM EDT
              Reply

              bin Laden apparently was pretty satisfied with Bush.

              • 32 votes
              Reply#8 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

              The Bush family and the bin Laden family were good friends and did business together.

              • 30 votes
              #8.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

              The re-election of Bush in 2004 was a gift to Bin Laden; a major recruiting aid. In case we've forgotten, there were a number of messages released by Al Quaida just before the election clearly intended to help the Bush/Cheney scare-up the vote campaign.

              • 15 votes
              #8.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

              Remember how, right after 9/11, all flights were grounded, except those getting every member of the Bin Laden family out of the U.S. Wouldn't the smart thing be to question them first, see what they know?

              • 18 votes
              #8.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

              John....................>Please cite your sources.

              • 3 votes
              #8.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

              Optomyst

              Please read. Rush is not news.

              • 4 votes
              #8.5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

              Wow, that genius John Kerry, he sure would've fixed everything! (Did you hear that he served in Viet Nam?)

              • 1 vote
              #8.6 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:49 PM EDT

              Optypus - Where have you been? It's been well known by everyone, left, right , middle, outer space about the Bin Laden family getting special flights out of the US just after 911.

              The Bush/Bin Ladens go way back. Do your homework and get your head out of Rush's ass.

              • 3 votes
              #8.7 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:37 AM EDT
              Reply

              “Taifat al-tawhid wal-jihad,” or Monotheism and Jihad Group. Hmmm. Kinda awkward for a new boy band name, don'tcha think? How 'bout Stinky and the Goat Lovers? or...maybe Achmed and the Wife Beaters?

              You should take the word "group" out of the name, 'cuz I'm just not feeling it. Osama? Osama?

              • 6 votes
              Reply#9 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

              Is this supposed to get everyone back into the spirit regarding the idiotic occupation of Afghanistan?

              • 3 votes
              Reply#10 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

              Probably more election information to remind us under which presidency OBL was killed.

              • 5 votes
              #10.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:59 PM EDT
              Reply

              it is all Bush's fault; Obama was not President when it happened. He just inherited the problem.

              Love,

              Little gay guy press secretary

              • 4 votes
              Reply#11 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

              Kansasfsda- Got a major OCD problem huh? Going around the vine repeating your little childish post, bored are we, in mommy's basement? Ahhhhh to bad so sad!

              • 15 votes
              #11.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

              He's from Kansas and they went with Mr. Assjuice, that should tell you something.

              • 8 votes
              #11.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:45 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarkansasfsdafsdafsadfExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Actually I did this to show you how stupid all of you lefties look on these websites posting the same old @!$%# everyday. Your name calling is cute. Hummbird, your posts are all the same to lash out at anyone that disagrees with you "bored are we, in mommy's basement? Ahhhhh to bad so sad!". I am neither you ass muncher.

              Stoned pipe,you and hummer need to get together and blow each other. It's the Liberal way!

              • 4 votes
              #11.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:48 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarBringit-871936Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Shut up faggot

                #11.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                kansas,

                You and your kind so funny! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Keep up the inherited thing, pretty soon the 'Dead People' that voted for Obummer will even start to believe... He inherited and just keeps adding to it, in the name of 'inheritance'...

                • 2 votes
                #11.5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                kansasfsdafsdafsadf

                Please tell us all some of your conservative povs, as well as how any of these Tea/Republicans running are worth even a little turd pebble, or how they could even begin to be considered as Presidential, whatsoever.

                I am sure you have something to enlighten us with. It shows in your style.

                Thanks.

                • 7 votes
                #11.6 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

                notsojingo, I was afraid you fell off the earth. Have not seen you post in a while. Peace and good luck!

                  #11.7 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:05 PM EDT

                  I was afraid you fell off the earth...

                  I was just holding on by my fingernails for a spell there, but I am Back On Top!!!

                  Thanks for thinking of me, Stonepipe.

                  ☺☼♠♣♥♦♪♫☻

                  Peace

                    #11.8 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

                    Dude, thanks for responding, I was just about to give up and go see what the moving picture machine had on. I went to your sight to write a note but the only way for you to write me is through my daughters e-mail. I am catching on to the innertube machine a little more each day! That old dogs thing is B.S! Well if you get this I will check at 11:30 edt. Double peace to you! What is going on in the world? Crazy stuff every day.

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.9 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

                    I don't think you people understand Kansas' sarcasm. He should have put quotes around the statement, and little gay press secretary is Obama's Jay Carney who is making the statement. I think.

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.10 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

                    That old dogs thing is B.S!

                    LMAO!! That is what keeps me going!! Busy as of late, so just catching back up a bit, but am fried so will catch ya soon, Brother.

                    Peace

                      #11.11 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:49 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      I'd call that Karma, we got Bin Laden first, he was use to Bush and Cheney saying they were after him but turning a blind eye because they were too busy trying to take over the Iraqi oil fields.

                      • 15 votes
                      Reply#12 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

                      Pure BS

                      • 4 votes
                      #12.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                      And Clinton didn't get him because?????????????????????

                      • 7 votes
                      #12.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

                      GCCal,

                      “I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.” - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

                      • 15 votes
                      #12.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

                      He was having cigar problems!

                      • 2 votes
                      #12.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

                      Optomyst,

                      To busy having his intern taste a Cigar for him... It could have been poison...

                      • 3 votes
                      #12.5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

                      Optomyst

                      Clinton at least tried to get OBL, but he was paralyzed by the Lewinsky non-scandal and there was no public support to wax Biny Boy until 9/11. Also the outgoing Clinton administration did all they could to get Bush and Cheney to take OBL seriously (and the FBI/CIA tried) but they were still fixated on fighting a cold war with the USSR that no longer existed.

                      • 9 votes
                      #12.6 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                      Fuel,

                      Liar, Read your history better, Clinton and his former admin did nothing to help Bush... You need to study more... Did not try to warn him of how serious anything was, took everything they could out of the White House, including some furnishings... Man, if you are gonna quote something get your facts straight... Oh, looks like you are a Blinder Wearing Liberal', doesn't want to learn from facts, just make up your own...

                      • 7 votes
                      #12.7 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

                      CBurroughs: I have never been a liberal, they don't represent me but the Republican Party left me many years ago--Imagine that the GOP once stood for fiscal responsibility and AVOIDANCE of war! Then the Jesus Freaks of Nature took over the party. (yes I know that is shocking to a child, but true). I was aware of the transition between those two administrations while it was happening and the one thing that stood out was how adamant Clinton was about the dangers of AQ--perhaps that makes me an old man--and you?--still in diapers back then I'm guessing?

                      • 9 votes
                      #12.8 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

                      Lest we forget, 9/11 happened on Bush's watch.

                      • 8 votes
                      #12.9 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                      CBurroughs............Clinton's NSC prepared a detailed memo for Bush warning that bin laden was preparing to attach the US. Condi Rice brought it to Bush's attention during one of his getaways at Crawford. Bush dismissed it and was only interested in how he could he could justify invading Iraq.

                      • 9 votes
                      #12.10 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

                      CBurroughs FUEL IS SO RIGHT and Mike 430 has done his home work. Richard Clark (served in H's Admin and went straight into Clinton's) a terrorist specialist and report Clinton had for Bush's eyes only concerning Osama Bin Laden was ignored:

                      "Clarke's main argument—made in his new book, Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on
                      Terror
                      , in lengthy interviews on CBS's 60 Minutes and PBS's Charlie Rose
                      Show
                      , and presumably in his testimony scheduled for tomorrow before the
                      9/11 Commission—is that Bush has done (as Clarke put it on CBS) "a terrible job"
                      at fighting terrorism. Specifically: In the summer of 2001, Bush did almost
                      nothing to deal with mounting evidence of an impending al-Qaida attack. Then,
                      after 9/11, his main response was to attack Iraq, which had nothing to do with
                      9/11. This move not only distracted us from the real war on terrorism, it fed
                      into Osama Bin Laden's propaganda—that the United States would invade and occupy
                      an oil-rich Arab country—and thus served as the rallying cry for new terrorist
                      recruits."

                      • 7 votes
                      #12.11 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:13 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      One of the dangers of bin Laden was that he usually did rationalize his actions in terms of end goals.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#13 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                      Osama had some functioning brain power, good or bad, one can only make their own call. He knew which President was a real threat to he and his ban of thugs and it wasn't GW. Look at the whole picture, he was only able to get as far as he did because there were no real threats to him before 2009. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!

                      • 18 votes
                      Reply#14 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                      Good try, Joy....good try....but your boys may just go down.

                      • 3 votes
                      #14.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                      GCCal - only in your dreams!

                      • 11 votes
                      #14.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:00 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      I can remember the morning I turned on the t.v. and saw the President saying the Navy Seals had taken obl out like it was yesterday. One of the proudest and happiest days for my country that I felt in years!The next happy day is when all the troops are out of that @!$%#hole.

                      • 13 votes
                      Reply#15 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                      Why would he want to kill a fellow muslim like the Repubs says the president is ??

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#16 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                      Well, Bin Laden clearly did not get the email that Obama was on his side. Shame Rush could not get his show on Al Jazeera....

                      • 15 votes
                      #16.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

                      Actually, the way the purported words of bin Laden are reported seem to indicate that he, at least, accepts Obama's conversion as being legitimate; hence, he is a "reprobate" as any and all Muslims who later accept another religion are.

                        #16.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:55 PM EDT

                        Muslims have been offing muslims for 1400 years.

                          #16.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                          They kill each other all the time. Can you spell IRAQ?

                            #16.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:52 PM EDT

                            They kill there own, look at 911, there were many Muslims that were murder that day. Obama is just a really bad leader, lack for a better word. He thought he was running to be a Celeb, not president of the US.

                              #16.5 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:18 AM EDT
                              Reply

                              There seem to be a lot of people commenting about things that have abosolutely no bearing on the facts...or is that not one of the functions of this site.....OK, maybe it's all just to get a laugh or two........but please rethink your opinion if it includes busting Biden.....his got more foreign policy knowledge then Panetta and most others who have held the Secratary of State job......when he was in the Senate, (don't take my word, look it up) he was both feared and respected for his knowledge and handle on all of the issues that came before him and he was NEVER afraid to call out someone or something for it's obvious bull-s--t or grandstanding....and things got DONE.....in front of the cameras and behind them......

                              • 14 votes
                              Reply#17 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                              Hehe,Good post JOE

                              • 3 votes
                              #17.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                              You mean like the time Bumbles made the statement that during the depression Roosevelt went on t.v. to tell the American people that everything was going to be o.k. when in fact t.v. hadn't even been invented yet?....that kind of knowledge?

                              • 5 votes
                              #17.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

                              You are a funny fella!

                                #17.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:53 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                Here all along I thought OBL was a nut case, but apparently he was brighter than the democrats because he knew that Biden would be a lost cause as President-Non Elect.

                                Sure music man sure......keep hoping.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#18 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                                Two words: Sarah Palin.

                                One other: dumbass.

                                • 11 votes
                                #18.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

                                The other two words John McCain! Palin didn't didn't run against Obama.

                                • 6 votes
                                #18.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                                bubba - and John McCain was the idiot who inflicted Sarah Palin on us! You DO remember that, right?

                                • 10 votes
                                #18.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                                SeekingSanity:

                                McCain is not an idiot--just cynical enough to enlist with the vacuous cheerleader that simple conservatives rallied behind.

                                • 8 votes
                                #18.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

                                The Repubs brought in SP to ensure there was NO WAY they would have to deal with the current mess with a Republican POTUS.

                                It worked, and they are doing it again.

                                Good evil plan, once again. Those Right Wing Lunes are not stupid, just UnAmerican other than for the 1%. Not that all the Dems are any different, just not as obvious to the masses.

                                • 2 votes
                                #18.5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:45 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                No documents saying he wanted to kill President Bush? Go figure.

                                • 8 votes
                                Reply#19 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                                Those were deleted before this article was released.

                                  #19.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  Well at least hew was right about Joe biden

                                    Reply#20 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                                    That's the part that seems silly. This article just appears to be Republican shenanigans to me ... a little chuckle at Joe's expense.

                                      #20.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

                                      No, because if it were that, then it would say to "eliminate Patreus, Panetta, and Biden, but leave Brother Barrack alone, for as you know, secretly he is still one of us."

                                        #20.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:58 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        But bin laden is just one of the many, many people who feel that way. It's all part of the obama hope & change program working. One of it's successes is the burying of bin laden at sea. Change i can believe in. I tell you mr gover, the gop, & the rushbo just wasn't doing the job right.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#21 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

                                        he can do much with a bullet in his head, and now he's fish food..

                                        • 4 votes
                                        Reply#22 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                                        Well, how about that? Seems he was a Republican all along.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#23 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                                        Do you think that if one of those documents also said that they should kill G Bush or D Cheney that Obama would let it reach the light of day during the campaign season? NO WAY NO HOW

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#24 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                                        Not to worry, FOX News will have a fake document with this BS claim next week once the ink dries.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #24.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                                        You MF's are truly amazing! You just make stuff as you go along and believe it like it's reality. All you are expressing is how "f"ing ignorant and hateful you are of the president. NOTHING INTELLIGENT

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #24.2 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        Do you think that if one of those documents also said that they should kill G Bush or D Cheney that Obama would let it reach the light of day during the campaign season?

                                        _________________________________________________________

                                        No such documents exist because Cheney and W were AlQaeda's best friends.

                                        They cause the world to hate America, and they were completely incompetent and could not stop AlQaeda.

                                        Obama is so much better than GOP lackeys that it's not even funny

                                        4 MORE YEARS!!!!!

                                        • 12 votes
                                        Reply#25 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                                        ScommaG,

                                        Their name was not on any such documents or notes because they were better protected... People like you need to actually take your head out of the toilet, go outside and discover what this Obummer guy is doing to America... Watch alittle of all the news channels, read the paper, and talk to your fellow man...

                                        Four more years of Obummer will really trash the USA... I admit the GOP doesn't have the best to offer, but it has better to offer than four more of this...

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #25.1 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                                        So, you'd rather have the internet censored to hell? No porn, user-made content etc? Coupled with tons of other rights issues and a preacherman behind it all? I'll take my independent president even though I am a liberal, especially since obama has done nothing but continued the policies put in place by bush.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.2 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:51 PM EDT

                                        ScommaG

                                        4 more years of Obama and he'll hand over the country to the U.N. (one world-one government). He's passed health care reform that will decimate our health care system. The national average for a gallon of gas was a $1.78 when he took office. The stimulus package did nothing but put us further in debt. His Fast and Furious plan to undermine the 2nd amendment armed criminals and kill american citizens (Holder the lying S.O.B. knew). Obama didn't even take the time to visit the victims of the recent tornadoes because he's too busy campaigning, the only thing that matters to him is a second term.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.3 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

                                        Obama didn't even take the time to visit the victims of the recent tornadoes because he's too busy campaigning

                                        Don't worry about that -- most people around here aren't all that anxious to be part of a photo-op for his re-election videos, or anybody else's for that matter.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.4 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:07 PM EDT

                                        CBurroughs

                                        Well, I have stepped out and looked around.....my 401 K is back to where it was prior to the Bush bank give away...3 of my close friends have found full employment equal to what they lost......and as for the gas prices......the 1% oil speculators are raising the price based on the 3 GOP Stooges calling for war with Iran.

                                        I am not happy with everything Obama has put forth.....but the GOP is very frightening and I am a life long Republican.

                                        • 7 votes
                                        #25.5 - Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:28 PM EDT

                                        No budget in over 3 years. Why? How is that properly running a government? Spend, spend.. Solyndra, the volt, the 10 million dollar government prize to invent the most affordable green bulb... the winner $50.00 a bulb? Affordable for who? The 11 million dollar government Detroit dress for success went to 2 people. Odd how you could blame one man for so much, when the democrats ran congress for years. Glad 3 of your friends are doing good, but millions of people are not, even after Obamas trillion dollar not so shovel ready jobs. I see you blame high gas prices on speculators.. I think it would be more appropriate to say O's energy policy is the disaster. He also turned down the pipeline. The way he flies around campaigning in air force 1 is odd as he hates gas so much. He should set an example, use his windmills, solar or his algae and stop wasting our gas. BTW I never heard any of the 3 GOP hopefuls calling for war with Iran? THAT WOULD BE NEWS! Not one of O's energy plans is realistic, the only thing that is real is all the wasted billions hes throw out the window that will have to be paid back for bankrupt companies... So how can you feel so comfortable watching all this insanity spending?

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.6 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:12 AM EDT

                                        i am conservative republican, no matter who wins to run for president, anyone is way better then obuma. i am for Newt, he can wipe the floor up with obuma, better then ronmey, ron paul, and maybe Sandtroum. why the republicans ar pushing ronmey is beyond me. the dems are hoping for ronmey. obuma and his cronies are so affraid of Newt.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #25.7 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:17 AM EDT

                                        Excuse me.... facts please... I remember the Bin aden terrorist hit the trade center the first time in the 90's. And Clinton retaliated by hitting his pharmacy. George Bush did not take office until Jan 2001. So how can you print such lies as to say Bush & Cheney caused the world to hate America? Your statement makes no sense.In the 90's Bin Laden never heard of George Bush!!

                                        It took our troops 3 years of Obamas term to find Bin Laden, it took another 16 hours for Obama to give the ok. Because of the steps taking by the Bush administration and our dedicated never give up military. So the team work all around got Bin Laden his due! Take off your blinders!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.8 - Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:37 AM EDT
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