How many more Americans must die before the U.S. says "ENOUGH" and get our people out of these stone age countries?

9 months, or 4 years, or 14 years...but technically we still all have to die because we will still be infidels

Uh, how many Americans are stupid enough to work in Yemen?

@ron

actually a lot...especially teachers...the money can't be beat...I've worked half a dozen places in that region (not a teacher), and 96% of the time Americans are treated very well by the locals...(that 4% is a bitch though)

Where is the apology?? oh that's right, Americans deserve to be murdered...maybe we should start rioting in the streets and suicide bombing each other in protest

I'm curious, Mr.PheaNiques, from whom would you be looking for an apology? Al Qaeda?

Yemen is in a state of chaos. Nobody is in secure control.

I don't expect one...that was the point

Al-Qaida is in control of two cities in the south and have staged attacks on the Yemeni police and military, the latest killing more than 150 soldiers.

The article only states 'gunman' but I'm pretty sure he was part of Al-Qaida. So they were able to kill an American. Let's see if the White House makes a statement on this. Al-Qaida are slowly working on controlling Yemen the same way they slowly controlled Afghanistan.

Al-Qaida knows that the US has taken its eyes off of them just like in the 1990's.

Yes and we created, trained and funded them in the 80's

Mr.PheaNiques:

Possibly, maybe they are passing on the training and the funding to their offspring. Training and funding thirty years ago; we're that good, huh? Are you sure this is about America training and funding and "creating"? I'm thinking more along the lines of their mindsets are, for lack of a better word, crazy. These events would be happening regardless of actions undertaken 30 years ago.

Don't worry, the apology is on the way. Obama will apologize to Yemen later in the day because it was obviously our fault and the victim's fault.

We are ready to arm Al-Qaida and Syrian rebels against Assad!

Saudi Arabia is the mother of Islamic radicalism and terrorism with its Salaffi and Wahhabi versions and they are promoted through the liberal funding of mosques all over the word.

How many mosques were there in the US before 1991 and now?

Al-Qaida, Taliban and most of the Sunni radical and terrorist groups have Saudi and other Sunni rich sharks' patronage.

Still Saudi Arabia dictates US foreign policies and actions.

One of my students is from Yemen and the country has been in turmoil for some time. The American-backed dictator who was recently over-thrown had a very corrupt regime based upon cronyism which of course benefitted the elite at the expense of everyone else. Now that he's out, there's a struggle between various factions who refuse to cooperate with one another (we have that right here in Congress and just about every state legislature so don't get snide about it). Al-Qaeda is taking advantage of that fact and using it to undermine Yemeni authorities. Believe me, most Yemenis despise Al-Qaeda and view them as criminals and subversives.

Mr Shrun was not "spreading Christianity". THAT'S the excuse Al-Qaeda used but according to my student, the Western teachers and aid workers in Yemen don't proselytize. And the Yemenis don't see them as enemies - in fact they are usually very warmly welcomed and appreciated. So please don't blame the Yemeni people for the actions of Al-Qaeda criminals.

And as for the "Stone Age" reference, if you've never been to Yemen, you have absolutely NO right to judge it or its people. The Yemenis I know are very good people, very open and kind, respectful, and family-oriented. They like America but don't want our problems. They want good schools, modern clinics and hospitals, reliable utilities and good roads, and a decent life for themselves and their children. They do NOT want the self-centered, materialistic hedonism that they see as pervading American culture to corrupt theirs. As intelligent human beings and citizens of a sovreign nation they have the right to decide what "modern" things they want and which ones they don't.

And yes, we need to keep our noses out of Yemen's business. The US has every right to ask that the perpetrators of this crime be found and brought to justice, but no more than that.

Libyan 'freedom' profited Al Quaeda greatly, as has most of the "Arab Spring" since they are the ones pushing to overthrow dictators who, while brutal, did keep the radical extremists in check. Now, dictators gone, radical extremists on upswing, better armed and able to take over more regions. Not that the folks singing the praises of the Arab Springtime are going to admit anytime soon that what that will create is a rather large Islamic Caliphate. Those folks don't want democracy, they want strict Sharia law. Perfect example is the reason behind murdering this teacher. Don't want any Christian Proselytising on our turf. Then, for the doubters and nay-sayers, look at what is happening with the Christians in all areas where Islamic dominance occurs, think they are being allowed to worship in peace? Really?

The USA wants to send 75 more million to Yemen for their military. It would probably end up in the bomber's hands. I agree with the posters who said get our people out. I also agree that we should get an apology. We gave Yemen over 300 million in the past few years and when one of our people is murdered, not even a simple I am sorry.

Uh, Squatch? Afghanistan isn't arab.

No but they are Islamic, Muslim (trying not to be redundant here.) Therein lies the key to the whole issue, radical fundamentalist Islamists wanting their version of religion dominant and willing to kill in order to achieve said goal.

I'm sorry, going into uncharted or hostile territory has its repercussions..yeah, blame Al Qaeda, but yet blame yourselves..........

May I just say if the teacher was teaching the word of God he died for the Lord and that is the way I would like to go. I would also like to say the US when electing a American christen president can put a stop to this murder by the Muslims by bombing their countries in one fell swoop. No war no big money just end it. Sounds non Christen but these same countries are going after God country Israel. A country we are to defend according to the word of God.

Cub T. said:

How many more Americans must die before the U.S. says "ENOUGH" and get our people out of these stone age countries?

I say:

How many more Americans must die before the U.S. says "ENOUGH" and carpet-bombs these stone age countries with nuclear weapons?

I love all the ignorants on this post who now want to blame Obama. This has been going on way before Obama - way before Bush. Unfortunately, every once in a while a radical someone kills an American who is on their soil. But before we go trashing Muslims, I hear some pretty despicable stuff come out of the mouths of "Christians" too. Maybe we need to realize that extremism - in any religion - is a serious problem.

I'm just saying, if a person doesn't even know the difference between "Arab" and "Muslim," what are the odds that they are informed on these important national security issues?

Probably the shooter was suffering from PTSD, maybe had too many tours in a war torn country. Must have just "snapped". Could have been worse, could have shot women and children and then set them on fire...........

Yeah , gotta watch those Christians espousing suicide bombings, beheadings , the murder of daughters that have been raped instead of going after the rapists 1

Yep , those radical Is lamists are victims of Christian repression and brutality !

Mr.PheaNiques-0000001, exactly who would you have apologize; and, to whom? We apologize when one of our soldiers nuts up and kills babies; but, that is because we have a functioning government TO apologize. AND because we are TRULY SORRY (rather than proud) that the slaughter of innocents happened. That is because we are BETTER than al qaeda.

I agree. Who should apologiize? Al Queda? Gimme a break. Also, the US did not put this person there. He is working for a charity. The US govt cannot go rescue everyone in harm's way if that person wants to be there. That is personal responsibility, a concept for which I'm sure you agree with. Right, Righty?

Robin Santee Beaugureau - When did Israel become 'God Country'? And nowhere in the word of God are we told we need to defend Israel. You should read it sometime.

p.s. - The word 'Christian' is spelled like so.

I hate to say this, but if this guy really was some Christian going around proselytizing in Yemen, then he brought this on himself. I do not like to see Americans killed like this anywhere, but to go around preaching Christianity in an unstable Muslim country with a major al Qaeda presence is just plain stupid. It should not be that way, but there are certain realities in this world that people need to accept, particularly if they want to stay alive in the Middle East.

I agree the U.S. should take some responsibility for our Americans dying there. Popeye_Khan says the U.S. should "carpet-bomb these stone-age countries with nuclear weapons." What an ignorant thing to say, you can tell when people just talk out of their ass! What gives the U.S. the right to do that? Don't you see the U.S. government is in on it too, duh, it's business. They just manipulate Americans through media by only showing us what they want us to see and know. The U.S. is the one all up in their business, using OUR troops as they please, as if their lives mean nothing, feeding them the line of "fighting for our country with honor, for freedom" and blah, blah, blah! Why should we destroy that country? Because our government is telling us they are bad people? If those people are as bad as our government says, then why do they keep allowing Americans to be sent to work there like that poor teacher? Don't you think they would care for our protection? NO!

Al-Qaida.....gone from international terrorists taking down city towers to gunning down helpless teachers. Sounds like progress to me.

Where is the apology?
You expect a terrorist organization to say sorry for killing an American? Do you know why Obama apologizes? Because we are better than them. We have the balls to say "You know what, we were in the wrong here. We are sorry." We aren't school yard bullies.

I've got a suggestion. Let's take all the radical Muslims and all the radical Christians and put them all on a deserted island or something. Equip both sides with swords, shields, spears, bows and arrows and let them fight it out. The last man standing wins the war.

Most of this would stop if we would make drilling for oil in national lands a condition of national security. With this label we would stop the tree huggers from flying their corporate jets to D.C. to protest and stop all drilling while the average Joe is the one who suffers at the pump.

We need to drill to the point of being totally self sufficient, then start selling surplus and take that money and put some serious cash into alternative energy research.

This way we do not need to deal with our friends that stab us in the back (Saudi Arabia first and all the Muslim lands can follow). We apologize to these people, but never have I heard of word of support or remorse from them for the atrocities committed by their radical people of faith that are sponsored with state funding). We have turned on Israel (the only nation there that did not have it's citizens in the streets dancing on 9/11 and whisper sweet things to our enemies. We have a administration that has the worst foreign relations I have ever seen. A president that has yet to fulfill his promises when he lied to get our votes, and now instead of taking any heat he has done what he always does, blames others and gets people to call them racist. It is time to take a stand for the sake of our nation and get these pack of idiots who do not have a clue out of the white house, put term limits on our representatives in D.C. and bring back the citizen politicians our forefathers envisioned.

I do not care about the parties, they both stink, just smell badly differently, I just want the country back that I was raised in, not this country where no one can speak their mind without being called a racist, we apologize for our human rights violations to Venezuela, and let the liberal left have a free for all against Christianity. We need to stand up or we will cease to be!

I agree with Tbenton, our president did just that, lied his way to the top indeed. As for finding ways for the U.S. to be self-sufficient, that makes sense to many of us, however, our own government has different plans for it's own people and do NOT want us to be self-sufficient because that would mean less control over us. This is how they get to control us obviously.

Sorry TB, but drilling won't stop the problem. It'll bring down the price of gas maybe twenty cents over the course of the next fifteen years. MAYBE. It certainly won't make us self-sufficient, since all oil goes onto the global market.

Israel is as much a threat to the United States as its neighbors. Don't make the dangerous mistake of thinking that they are our friend. Israel is an interest, nothing more. And they've moved from being an asset to being a liability. It's time we stopped supporting that failed experiment.

If you say racist things, that makes you a racist. If you don't like it, don't say racist things.

Whenever I hear "take my country back," it pretty much always means "take away the civil rights that people died to bring to ALL Americans." So no, you can't "take your country back."

As finally, nearly every time you hear Christians claim to be the victim of persecution, it's nothing more than them losing their position of privilege or a curtailment of their ability to force their beliefs on others. Christians control all three branches of government, dominate the entire command and control structure of the world's most powerful military, have a near monopoly over the U.S. economy, and exercise a voter majority so large that they can, and regularly do, violate the constitutional rights of others. Christians are not @!$%#ing persecuted in America.

Uh, Squatch? Afghanistan isn't arab.

Uh, Toasty McGrath, the incident occurred in Yemen. An Arab country. Experiencing their own version of the "Arab Spring". And there are Al Qaida affiliated groups in Yemen.

Don't try to make someone sound ignorant, you just expose your own ignorance, mmmkay?

*cough* 50% export tax*cough* That would bring down gas prices, you drill here, you sell here. Then you take out the speculators. Vwala, 2.50 a gallo(mabey even less!!!).

Yemen has been developing into a hot bed of Muslim extremism for some time now. If this is the way Al Qaida wants to play perhaps this might be a good time for our military to dust off a few dozen MOABs.

I hear some pretty despicable stuff come out of the mouths of "Christians" too.

Oh, SeekingSanity, but let's not forget the jews. PLEASE don't act like they aren't doing any hating (or do you work for the media?). Despicable stuff indeed, just swept under the carpet.

Meh, good point, Squatch. But then, the revolution in Yemen hasn't been successful, so you're still wrong. You get points for geography, but lost more on common sense.

This operation comes as a response to the campaign of Christian proselytizing that the West has launched against Muslims

So make it legal to do the same to Muslims and lets get this crap over with.

I do not like to see Americans killed like this anywhere, but to go around preaching Christianity in an unstable Muslim country with a major al Qaeda presence is just plain stupid.

Correct. You don't throw a cat in a pen full of pit bulls and expect it to get out alive.

More proof religion is nothing but insanity - check this out

Robin Santee Beaugureau May I just say if the teacher was teaching the word of God he died for the Lord and that is the way I would like to go. I would also like to say the US when electing a American christen president can put a stop to this murder by the Muslims by bombing their countries in one fell swoop. No war no big money just end it. Sounds non Christen but these same countries are going after God country Israel. A country we are to defend according to the word of God.

There's just nothing more to be said; this person thinks they are a "Christen" and has never even come close to hearing the "words of Jesus". And their picture shows them with children, I'm sure they will grow up to be good "christens" too.

Now I doubt this person will ever commit violent murder in the name of their fantasy god (who's teachings they have never read) but the mindset is the same as the violent jihadist; absolutely no logic or sense other than selfish ego thinking they have chosen the "correct" god or that "god" has chosen them to be special

What the hell! Mr. Obama! You are endorsing a mosque near ground zero NYC. Yet Nothing...I repeat you do nothing about this! You're an idiot! Stop selling out America! Grow a set! and most of all step up to the plate and lead! This whole situation is just totally wrong! You've not only failed this veteran, but every American! You are a dissapointment!

Uh, Toasty, didn't the whole Arab Spring thing start in Yemen?

You are endorsing a mosque near ground zero NYC. Yet Nothing...I repeat you do nothing about this! You're an idiot! Stop selling out America! Grow a set!

He has too many "American" supporters to do that.

It hasn't succeeded there yet, Ubelievable. How can you try and credit a revolution for this... When it hasn't become the new government?

And really Rusty, you'd prefer we shred up the First Amendment? Weren't the teabaggers going on and on last week about "religious liberty?"

Toasty,

I love the mind of the liberal thinker. You not only follow this president but also the news that blindly supports him and his socialist agenda. You talk like we do not have any oil reserves in America, but the truth be told if there was a stop of government regulations forcing the refineries to make different grades or mixes of gas for each region we most likely would drop the price of gas by $1.00 a gallon (but contrary to what the liberals tell you, they want to keep the middle class under their thumbs so it is not in their interest to allow the middle and lower class to rise up and free themselves from government help, it takes away from their voter base.

Next I would suggest you quite listening to all news, they are not news reporting anymore, just mouthpieces for whatever political view they support. Use this wonderful tool that has been given to us and look into the US geographical reports of oil deposits found under both Alaska and under the mainland U.S. and outside under the water. We have more oil then Canada, Russia, the whole Arab peninsula combined. This being tapped would stop us from having our economy at the mercies of the Muslims that are friends one could do without.

Now in regards to your thinking that this is not a christian nation and we are having problems because the Christians are losing power, I would suggest you look to the writings of our founders and see what they have to say.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams (The Works of John Adams, ed. C. F. Adams, Boston: Little, Brown Co., 1851, 4:31)

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."
Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence

"I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth--that God Governs the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?"
Benjamin Franklin

"Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants."
Benjamin Franklin

"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." Thomas Jefferson

I could go on and on but like it or not this country was built on christian principles, but the founders in their wisdom did not want the church to rule the country because everything becomes corrupt with power, but was to be used as another tool for keeping checks on this government. So are the Christians attacked, of course they are. I watch for news daily and I do not see the attacks against any other faith like I see it against Christians. But you know what the difference is. The other faiths would have you killed, the Christians would rather just pray for you. I do not care if you do not believe, I was in the military and fought for this very reason, I believe in your right to have faith in something or nothing, but you have the right. But I have never met a atheist that is willing to give the same quarter, they will never be happy unless they destroy ones faith. But like it or not this countries laws were founded upon Judaical - Christian code of morality. You can argue all you want, but when the founders state otherwise, then I just have to come to the conclusion that you do not wish to see. But with this being stated, do I want a church ruling this government and forcing it's beliefs on every one, of course not, what type of freedom is this. What I want is more of all faiths to work with the government to relief the suffering of people that is within the realm of their beliefs.

Last in your statement that Israel is not our friend, you are either blind or have not truly studied the news. And if you are watching the news then you must only be listening to the paliwood version that the European's have openly worked with to produce nothing but false reporting to make Israel look bad. Like it or not our best Allie is Britain, but our second closest democratic Allie is Israel, and as the only democratic elected government that does not support anti-american sentiment. But it is the liberal left like our president that would take our friends and throw them under the tracks of a train just to appease a people that hate us and wish for nothing but our destruction. How blind you liberals have become!

I would suggest you take at look at this site and see how duped we have become as the news channels are using this news out of Palestine as if it is true reporting:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?208002-Paliwood-redux-the-mysterious-case-of-the-run-over-man

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/palestinian-authority-tv-stages-bloody-scene-demonizing-israel.html

http://www.care2.com/news/member/100541798/3138334

I could go on all day, and a lot of these are reported by Arab news that want to keep the news pure. But they become outcast and killed for doing so, and we the gullible west just listen and do not question. Do us all a favor and research before you make conclusive statements. I can back my statements with facts, could you please do the same!

*cough* 50% export tax*cough* That would bring down gas prices, you drill here, you sell here. Then you take out the speculators. Vwala, 2.50 a gallo(mabey even less!!!).

Don't forget the local gasoline sales taxes and different seasonal formulations to combat smog problems there, chief. There's a whole lot more involved with the price we pay at the pump than the global oil price. And that's even irrespective of the fact we import the plurality of our oil from Canada and Mexico combined, not from the Middle East.

And thank you, Tbenton, for taking your time out of this beautiful Sunday and setting the representatvie resident liberal, Toasty, on the proper course of facts and reality. Again. It won't help much of course, but at least when you are right, you are right.

"Facts....are stubborn things." -- John Adams

And really Rusty, you'd prefer we shred up the First Amendment?

Clearly, Toasty, you liberals want to do that with Conservative AM talk radio and Fox News under the guise of "hate speech." God forbid a counter-voice to liberalism and Democrats be heard. It's okay for Bill Maher and Ed Shultz to call Conservative women the likes of the C-word, but if that right-wing fanatic named Rush insinuates a condom-mooch is one, all hell breaks loose (and I don't condone that comment from him either).

Cub T.

How many more Americans must die before the U.S. says "ENOUGH" and get our people out of these stone age countries?

The very first sentence of this article.

An American working in Yemen

This American chose to live in Yemen. Reading comprehend is not your strongest skill...

Jhawke,

I no way endorse or support Limbaugh or the name calling he referred to this activist that has become the front person for liberal press. But check out her background and you will see that this was set up and was in no way a mistake.

She was called into the senate ethics committee to speak about how religious institutes will be effected by Obama care, when her credentials were questioned she took to the airwaves. There was nothing inocent about this, this was a calculated move by Obama and his supporters because he knew that Obama care would pass the freedom of religion act and get past the catholic schools, so rather then admit he was wrong he and his supporters did a run around and put her in the front as if her reproductive rights were effected, when in reality her right to have sex was never effected, it is just not felt by most Americans that we should have to pay for such activity, this is a matter of choice and as in drinking you have choices but I should not have to pay for them. And if my faith prohibits me from doing this, then to join my school with the pre-knowledge of my beliefs and then become a activist to try to force my beliefs away and yours upon me is wrong. If she felt so strongly about this then maybe she should have went to a secular school and not a religious school. Do some research as I have and you will see this was set up from day one!

TB, I literally just told you that increasing our production would save us a few cents per gallon in a couple of decades. Nothing more.

And no, we are not a christian nation, nor have we ever been. We were founded as a secular democracy whose laws and government are in no way based upon any religion. In fact, there's only one quote I need to back this up:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

- "Establishment Clause" of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Moving on to Israel, they are definitely not an ally. We catch more Israeli spies every year than we do Chinese. They've attacked us before, and will clearly abandon us at the slightest provocation. They're semi-democratic at best, too, and the bottom line is that our support for that failed experiment has cost us American lives. It's time to take the proper, neutral position in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Toasty,

You talk like a true liberal disciple, now could you do me one favor and produce one shred of facts to support your statements. I have and will continue to, why is it that I do it and you can and never do?

The Iranians will trade oil in currencies other then the dollar. These are not stupid people. they know our dollar is on the verge of collapse and that if the world will trade for oil in other currencies - and we attack for that reason because it is an existential threat to the US more so then Nukes - then with whom will China and Russia side? If China refuses our treasuries, because we have attacked Iran, the dollar will collapse,this links to Euro collapse...links full circle back to Yuen collapse and that, IMO is the only thing that is preventing WWIII right now and total, global economic collapse. WOW! What a thin thread.

If I could wish for anything I would wish that the the Britts never talked Eisenhower into sending in the CIA to overthrow Mosadeq in Iran in 1953. Iran was a democracy then and we installed a dictator, the Shah...We are reaping the unintended consequences of meddling in the affairs of other nations...Oh what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive (and ignore the Constitution and the wisdom of the founders).

You just don't like that I used the Constitution to prove you wrong, am I right?

Where in the constitution have you proved me wrong, you must not have studied the founding fathers writing like I have. This separation was set up because the baptist of the south wanted a state founded religion and the federalist did not. The agreement that appeased each side was that the government would stick to governing and the church to the articles of the church. You need to study more before you make such broad statements. I would suggest you read the writings of Jefferson with the Baptist fathers back then and you will see why this was put it, you will also see that Jefferson in his writings did state that the one thing they did wrong was not include the bill of rights in the constitution, but the bill of rights is still the basics premise of the law of the land and it states that our freedom is our God given right.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams (The Works of John Adams, ed. C. F. Adams, Boston: Little, Brown Co., 1851, 4:31)

"Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature."
Benjamin Franklin

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."
Patrick Henry

"We have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us."
Abraham Lincoln's 1863 Thanksgiving Proclamation

Toasty McGrath

Moving on to Israel, they are definitely not an ally.

Umm, yes they are Toasty..or do you read the news?

Perhaps better you'd rather side with Israel's enemies? Ooops, they're the ones that are taking out Amerincans by the thousands ( 9/11 ) or individually... (today).

Yet again another example of Islam's violent intolerance of anything other than more Islam. How long will Western states ignore this global threat? Did occidental societies learn nothing from 1920-1946 european history?? Will it take an Iranian nuclear weapon??? Islam seeks tolerance only in places where it doesn't rule and then only until it gains enough power to take political control. Then it exterminates everyone and everything that is not Islam. There can never be peace or coexistance with Islam because Islam does not seek peace or coexistance with anyone or anything except other Muslims and the total world domination by Islam.

Meh, good point, Squatch. But then, the revolution in Yemen hasn't been successful, so you're still wrong. You get points for geography, but lost more on common sense.

Good God, Toasty McGrath, you're an arrogant sucker, aren't you? I said they are 'experiencing their own version of the "Arab Spring".' Nothing more, nothing less.

I said nothing of its success, nor do I believe that what is happening there has ended.

Again, my recommendation to you: Do not attempt to expose another as ignorant, it only serves to expose your own ignorance. I've seen enough of what you spew in these comments to know that my advice is sound.

Saudis have a easy solution for each and everything. After all their robes, mindset and religion are in still in seventh century desert days!

For solving al-Qaida problem, attack Iran and Syria!

Oil companies, their lobbyists and their cheap puppets like John McCain scream when the Saudis start their seventh century soap operas!

I'm curious, Mr.PheaNiques, from whom would you be looking for an apology? Al Qaeda?

I don't expect one...that was the point

Yes, Mr Pheaniques, and your equating of the actions of terrorist agents with the actions of U.S. citizens who wear the uniforms of our military is nonsensical.

That was my point.

Satanick-- Smartest post yet on this article. The US is better. Always will be. But there is a double standard here in the US. We never hear about the Taliban killing children, yet they do it every day. Al qaeda and Haqqani and the Taliban force mentally challenged kids and adults into suicide bombers. Why is that not on the news channels? Because our media is as crooked as our politicians. They have party affiliation and they really don't care about the truth. Just pushing what news will help their party and lobbyists. All 3 are destroying the US from the inside.

This is just more leftover violence from the Bush I & Bush II Legacy. The simple fact is we need to get all of our people and troops out of these areas - period, as the US is unable to bring peace to any of these countries.

You forgot Korea

Korea........They make Hyundai, right?

and you forgot Iran. the peanut farmer legacy far worse than the rest put together. you remember jimmy quit backing the shah and he got thrown out and the ayatollah took over. two guys on a bike does not equal an idiot regime with a nuke. and the neat thing is nobody can do anything about iran. they have the backing of russia and china so all the bluster in washington is just that, or why if lybia was so bad and we helped the rebels by bombing the govt forces, why have we not bombed syria. Its backed by russia and russia has already warned off the US. And the US is complying.

Ah, I love the sound of conservative ranters eating their hearts out in the morning. ;-)

Sir: you are right. But be prepared to get abuses!!!!

We need China for more loans. You see: Saudis and their friends monies are for mosques.

Russia is giving back what it got through Al-Qaida, Taliban, Chechnya and more.

It is a very profitable business to lecture, dance and do dramas as dictated by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and other Sunni rich sharks.

In Kuwait, there were grave human rights violations. So the US soldiers first fixed the "women liberator" Kuwaiti ruler's golden toilet during 1991 Iraqi war. He had 65 wives at one time!!!

Saudi ruler, 5000 princes and princesses, the most secular, lovers of democracy, human rights, women rights had to be guarded at any cost. So the US soldiers without their Bibles were stationed there and did their jobs superbly.

Oil prices were falling puttting Saudi Arabia, oil companies and their lobbyists in great economic disorder.

So now everyone is discovering WMDs to dangerous levels in Iran. Oil prices are back on rock and roll! It will over roller over $200 by removing WMDs in Iran!

Ah, I love the sound of conservative ranters eating their hearts out in the morning.

Ahh, yes...and we love the smell of liberal hypocrisy in the morning. The quote is "smell" not "sound." Ya goon.

I'll tell you the difference between this president and every other president, and I mean EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT (REP. OR DEM.) No other president has ever disrespected his own country more. No pres. has ever has ever told the whole world, that he dispieses his OWN COUNTRY. That he is ashamed of his country. Comes out immediately, to condemn any American when an incedent happens,always siding with the other country. What he had to say about the soldier in Afganistan is terrible. Yes, the man killed all those people, and he should pay for it, but to come out right away and condemn this man before the pres. even knew the facts , just shows how much he really hates us. Oh, and don't say it's only the Rep. he hates, all you followers, will soon see his hate for you too. Now, here's this article of an American gunned down in Yemen. Heard anything from the pres. yet? NO! This, he could give a crap about. Just like he could give a crap about the Americans being killed on the border with Mexico. HE DOESN'T CARE!! It's that simple. And don't worry that this is about him being black, because HE'S 50% WHITE TOO!!!

That is good news. for them. quaida got rid of another infadel. teaching Chrisitanity. I am sure that person was. Anyone who works in the ME is warned about that. They also should know. The ME is a dangerous place.

The liberal news media keeps trying the it was only one arab, it was a small group of thugs, there are only a few radical muslims. Well if you have been over there you would know its the majority. You know iranians are just like us. no they are not. they are willing to live under a theocracy.

Using the US Snake Department model, Iran with the backing of russia has done well, backing hezbollah which now has seats in the lebanese parlament, hamas which took over gush katif (gaza strip), and the PLO. The PLO is the group that supported black september at the munich games in 1972, Arafat, yeah he was pieceful.

the concept is that we can pretty much do nothing as Iran who IS the next ME power broker is backed by russia and china. Iran wants to be and pretty much is the head of the middle east, they just dont own the land yet. And when they do the plan is to install a Caliph in charge of all the middle east and then the world. They have a precaliph in their supreme leader the ayatollah.

This is one of the desires of all the arabs in the ME. Its what they want. Now their is a good side as there are differances in who can be the caliph. shiites believe anyone muslim. sunnis believe the caliph has to be a decendant of Mohammed. So when the takeover occurs we might get lucky and the ME arabs will fight amoungst the ME arabs. Worse than they do now.

The muslims keep referring to the Crusaders wrongly. We have not gone to take Jerusalem as in the past. However, many people dont know that islam got all the way to spain before it was pushed back centuries ago.

When is it going to happen. donno, not a prophet, however that is the push. Iraq is already in talks with iran, both are shiite majority now. under saddam the sunnis were in charge. the rest of the middle east is majority sunni, unfortunately small and not able to fight off iran if it comes to war.

So with the US going downhill fast, if iran takes over the coupe de grace will be cutting off all oil from the middle east. We will end up like norway buying and selling stuff and minding our own business.

russia and china think they can control iran. they will learn as did the brits and the US, you cant. They will just wait you out.

We will end up like norway buying and selling stuff and minding our own business.

What's wrong with that? Up until that idiot went on a killing spree, Norway was one of the most decent, peaceful places on the planet to live.

""This operation comes as a response to the campaign of Christian proselytizing that the West has launched against Muslims,"

Make a claim and shoot whomever one wants!

We are taking sides in their tribal and sectarian (Shiites vs Sunnis and so on) battles and trying to determine the winners.

Saleh gets treatment in the US!

We did it in Iraq and trying to do in Syria and Iran.

Why don't the Saudi Arabia and their Sunni Arab League fight their own battles instead of involving us? They did it in Bahrain.

Why do they fund their hater and killer training mosques all over the world as a gratitude for saving them?

Why don't they permit churches and other religious places as a gratitude and paying back in their nations?

Would the media bother with good news? More people in Afghanistan are living life free from Taliban control. Is that good news? Doubt you'll read it as a headline.

nekatseman: Huge numbers have been killed and a good number are in refugee camps too!

It will be back to Taliban once NATO forces start running away just like Iraq!

and there have been economic disasters due to the manipulation of oil prices to high unimaginable levels by Saudis and oil companies.

As if these are not enough, they and their cheap agents are choking Iran's oil and doing scare and war mongering on Iran and Syria!

Wait for more bad economic news and deaths of more poor soldiers.

I have to agree with you on this one. Yet we know the war will still persist. It is my belief that it has nothing to do with bringing peace to this nation, but about domination. Ever read Guns, Germs & Steel?

Amen

The 1776 American government, freedom loving yes. Peace loving, not too sure about that one. This nation was born out of war, and it expanded and grew because of armed conflicts of one sort or another. However, the USA doesn't have a lock on the war monger business. Every member of the g-8 has arms manufacturers that export their products. Hey, gun powder came from the far east. Civilizations have been waging war against each other since the beginning of the human race. What's happenng today is nothing new. It's just one step in the progression of our species.

wall street. I will have to disagree. Russia backs iran, and the govt in syria, so far what only 5400 dead, but iran is pushing with hezbollah and hamas and then there is al quds. Maybe for the current time but russia is catching up. They think they can control the ME thru their leaders, but there is no controlling religious theocracy. all the suicide bombings, car bombings are with russian money. they are just neatly keeping their hands outa it.

I do agree that we do stick our noses into the wrong place for the wrong reason. check out eisenhower and nicaragua where we overthru the nicaraguan govt cause the american banana plantation owners were gonna lose their land to the elected govt there. We have been at it for a while.

This is part of the picture.

Look at economic devastations in the US and its people. Many poor soldiers lost their lives and are maimed for life. Have people bothered about them and their families?

Here Saudis, oil companies, lobbyists and their cheap agents including war mongering US politicians are responsible and guilty.

Rating agencies, future traders and Wall Street played their part by manipulating oil prices to the highest levels.

There are so many natural resources. What is such a big deal about oil?

And you Wall Street Fat Cat aka PLA spin doctor are famous for you pompous bullsh*t

Is that a picture of your dog's butt? That is so disrespectful of your dog!

It's Obama's fault. Iraq and the dogs butt..

yES!!! SHOULD OF BEEN 500,000

I hope it is his dog.

Good stuff there, rradiko. You're right. The only thing is, how long is it going to take the ignorant hateful ones like al Qaeda and the ilk, which seem to be the militant arm of Islam, to realize this? It took Christianity quite awhile to mature. It just seems that there is a part of their ideology that will never totally accept peace. Their holy book tells them to kill the infidels, and the definition of infidel seems to be rather broad. I don't see it for quite some time. Maybe a century or two.

As far as Yemen is concerned, there's no there there. Whatever simulacrum of civilization they may have had in the past has evaporated like the morning dew in the August sun. So no, I don't think going there at this time has any benefit that outweighs the risk of being murdered by one of their many, many extremists. That is not really so much a risk, as a plan for suicide.

There are other, even worse countries in the world, filled to overflowing with raging political and/or religious extremists of every stripe, and to grace these vermin with our presence in the hope of achieving understanding will surely invite violence, resentment, and little else. If you wish to go "there", by all means, do so. Just don't expect sympathy from others who naturally have a better instinct for self-preservation. There are many lovely countries to visit, as well as our own, and most people are not of a missionary mindset, with a fondness for martyrdom. So let us know how your trip works out.

rradiko, I agree with your views on getting out and checking out the rest of the world, but unfortunately some of the world is too dangerous. parts of the middle east, Africa, central and South America- parts, tiny parts, but that doesn't matter if you're the one getting kidnapped, shot, beheaded, etc.

get out and see the world, but at least check out the 90% that's safe before you have to go hiking in Iran or something...

You did your homework!!!

before you have to go hiking in Iran or something...

Unless you are CIA.

And in that case, you'd better CYA

true.

Apples can also be yellow or green you know "genius".

Quit saying he/she. Clearly it was a man or the article would have begun with "After being raped..."

lol, yeah..I said it was red. If I said it was a fruit from a tree..man, look at all those possibilities..atleast I told you it was red.

Also, if you look at the article..it says "updated" lol I'm perty sure that was after I posted.. and when I posted that little line that has his name..wasn't there.

ljiuftgx

For those who bother to read the entire article. It was a man who was killed. His name was Joel Shrun and he was only 29 years old. This is a REAL person, with a REAL family, REAL friends, and an object in his life..............to teach.

He surely deserved better.

Optomyst

For those who bother to read the entire article. It was a man who was killed. His name was Joel Shrun

When i read it, it said,

The U.S. would not name the victim, citing his family's privacy, and conflicting reports surfaced about his identity. Some sources identified him as a Joel Shrun, or Sharm, and others as Joel Wesley.

Ron, I apologize to you. When I read the article, it was clearly stated. Again, my apologies.

They change their story all the time after people have left comments,no big deal.

I hate when they do that.

not your fault they changed it.

OK,back in 15.

Because if the internet, there is so much more out there to see and read. Which of the miriad opinions and propaganda do we believe and obey? None of it. The only mind that get's manipulated is the one that allows it. When it comes to news reporting, because these days it seems that reporters have to assert their opinions, believe none of what you hear or read and only half of what you see, until you can verify it thru other sources. After that, if it still doesn't seem right, screw it. Think for yourselves. Don't be sheep.

obama is holding talks with al quada? really? got a link? As far as I know, we have a zero tolerance policy/kill on sight with alquada.

We are cautiously engaging the taliban in afganistan, but you wouldn't be stupidly confusing them with al quada in yemen, would you? That would truly be an idiotic mistake.

FlyNavy. Since when was Obama holding talks with Al Qaeda? Never!! He is talking about maybe talking to the Taliban, but they are not Al Qaeda. Get your facts straight and find something else to rant about Obama about.

the ignorance of many obama haters borders on the astonishing. No doubt its a "taliban? al quaeda? same thing!" kind of stupidity at work here. You know, "if you've seen one muslim, you've seen them all" kind of ignorance.

Tom-ay-toe, Tom-ah-toe..

money: if you are in the "they are all the same" camp, let me sincerely hope you have nothing to do with our foreign policy. We need more intelligence, not more stupidity.

Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to. Right on the 'money', but I think we have the 'E's reversed. chuckle chuckle.

That's right, we are NOT talking with Al-Quaida. We're killing them, as it should be. Cautiously is indeed the only way to approach the Taliban, but that's in the toilet now. Oh well, the beat goes on. Potaytoe, tomayto.

I'm doing my part.

Unless they have oil, right?

I can't remember the last time I wanted to visit any country in that area of the world. There's a whole bunch of people there that want to kill me because I'm me. No thanks. I'll try my luck in Cabo, or Tijuana At least I have the chance of dying closer to home.

Ok. HUMAN BEINGS offer condolences in their own ways. Airing them on the internet is not a requirement. Some people are upset, because of what seems like Islams' inability to clean it's own house, and they have that right. After awhile some of them will settle down. Now let me ask you this; If Muhammad had personally picked a successor before he died would there be Shia and Sunni at war with each other today?

True-Islam,

Amen, Peace brother

You know these Evangelicals, they just have to convert everyone who is not one.

Economic interests, or strategic military locations.

I'm evangelical..I don't feel that I have to convert anyone..why do I care if you feed the fire and brimstone? But I'm not gonna act like you know more than me about what I know. Carefull with that last line, it could give you the ability to say something dumb. You know those non-evangelicals just have to put signs up that offend people and stir up hate. Is it better to believe something or to be angry cause you believe nothing..if I'm misinterpreting your comment, let me know.

Think Nic hit the nail on the head.

The article said that he was proselytizing, not to wise in a non christian society.

More have been driven from the church by over zealous Christians than have been brought to the church.

@ Happster
I think China already made enough money selling our flags to Muslim rioters. Their Yemeni stock ain't movin' on my account. ;)

Please. Are you invested in the defense industry?

No, Benlo, John is defending your right to talk nonsense without being rounded up and beheaded. He wants to keep the militant Islamists out of the US. As would any intelligent person.

Look on John as a reasonable person. I personally would be happy to see waves of Islamic fighters invade our area. I have frustrations and a nice stockpile of ammo. I don't wear a mask to hide behind, and I have no need to sneak up behind anyone and blow up their children. Face to face is just fine.

Oh...but...face to face is not the Muslim way, is it? Unless they are dealing with women or people who are tied up.

I think he is done with vacations.

They will not raise taxes they will barrow the money for war welfare or anything else to keep getting elected.

no, no loans, no raised taxes, they will bail them out too. some way, some how

Maybe the Killer got caught PTSD ,facing many bombs from us.

True-Islam, I forgot one thing. Your religion has the distinction of being the ONLY organized religion in the world that has a faction that is killing it's own and other innocent people in the name of that religion. Sure makes me want t sign up real quick. If Islam wants more respect in this world, it needs to clean it's own closet first. It was a peaceful religion, supposedly, until it's founder died. But the Quran, Koran or however it's actually spelled, STILL calls for the killing of all infidels no matter who they are, and it's definition of infidel is VERY broad. Talk about a religion that's been perverted. Know this, while I was raised in the Christian faith, I don't follow it blindly. Some people need church, I don't. I learned that I could talk to God by kneeling at the foot of my bed or wherever I chose. Not where someone tells me to, or else. Respect is something that's EARNED, it's not a birthright. Islam needs to start EARNING the worlds respect.

"Your religion has the distinction of being the ONLY organized religion in the world that has a faction that is killing it's own and other innocent people in the name of that religion"

Umm...no. Not really. Seems like you haven't been reading the news lately. Joseph Kony 2012 sound familiar? He is raping girls in the name of Christianity (which is not a religion of rape), forcing children to be foot soldiers in his Lord's Resistance Army in the name of (Prophet) Jesus (PBUH) (who never encuraged such an act), killing people of his own religion and of Islam, in the name Christianity, etc, etc....Not to mention the plethora of other warring African countries....does this mean that Christianity is bad...NOT AT ALL.

By commenting the way you did, you're impowering our extreme extreme right (the people we call terrorists). There are millions of Muslims out there (educated influential Muslims, mind you. Doctors, Engineeers, Social Workers, etc) who are indifferent about politics, but when people like you comment, they decide to leave both extremes as be (anti-Muslims and terrorists). They loose the zeal to protect America, they loose the zeal to protect their religion, and then we have lesser Muslims in the Republican party fighting against abortion.

"But the Quran, Koran or however it's actually spelled, STILL calls for the killing of all infidels no matter who they are"

I memorized the Quran. I am a proud citizen of the United States of America. The Quran is the source of my spiritual guidance and the Quran is what tells me abortion is wrong (of course, along with my own moral compass). The Quran is what tells me that marriage is defined as, in Rick Santourum's words "A relationship between a male and a female". The Quran tells me "that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind" (Surah Maidah). Killing what infidels? In what context was the verse you quoted revealed? What are the verses (sentences) before and after saying. By quoting something like this, this is exactly what you're saying "The people who truly believe in the Quran should wish to kill any and all infidels no matter who they are?" Thus, you've done Al-Qaaidah's recruitment job well. Congratulations, bif.

"If Islam wants more respect in this world, it needs to clean it's own closet first...Islam needs to start EARNING the worlds respect."

We're working on clening our extreme right and extreme left while you guys are just messing it up even more, if truth be told. Meanwhile, as an American citizen and a politically active dude, I've got to ask you to please clean up your own closet, too. We have Rush Limbaugh or however its spelt calling an innocent college student expressing her political views a "slut"? Just as those far-right Muslim extremist need to start EARNING your respect (*rolls eyes*), so does our extreme far-right in America need to start EARNING the respect of the public world.

Basically, we can handle and guide the angry Muslism back to true Islam, but please stop meddling! You're only nailing things up even more. Also, please clean up Rush Limbaugh's mess, and the rude condescending comments against Rick Santourum (deriding his last name, just because of his anti-gay marriage views? common, that's just really low).