Chevron executives barred from leaving Brazil over spill

Seventeen executives from Chevron and Transocean have been barred from leaving Brazil pending criminal charges related to a high-profile oil spill last November.

A federal judge in Rio de Janeiro state granted a request from prosecutors who are pressing for charges against both firms, a spokesman for prosecutor Eduardo Oliveira said in a phone interview. George Buck, who heads Chevron's Brazil unit, and the other 16 executives must turn in their passports to the police within 24 hours, the spokesman said.


Charges are expected to be filed on Tuesday or Wednesday, according to the prosecutors' press office.

The court decision came a day after the Brazilian navy spotted a thin stain of oil extending for about 0.6 mile (1 km) in offshore field Frade, which was also the site of last year's spill. U.S.-based Chevron said in a statement it halted production at Frade on Saturday after winning permission from Brazilian oil industry regulator ANP.

Neither Chevron nor any of its executives "have been formally notified of any action by the judiciary yet," the company statement said. "Any legal decision will be abided by the company and its employees. We will defend the company and its employees."

Prosecutors want to press a criminal indictment of Buck and other executives from Chevron and Swiss-based offshore drilling company Transocean, three government sources told Reuters in January. Transocean's rig was used in the Frade field.

It is up to a judge to determine whether to accept the charges and proceed with indictments.

Chevron's spill in November leaked as many as 3,000 barrels from sea-floor cracks. It resulted in an $11 billion civil lawsuit, the largest environmental damages case in Brazil's history, although the total amount of oil was less than 0.1 percent of the BP spill in 2010 in the Gulf of Mexico.

Chevron's troubles in Brazil could force it to rethink Latin American strategies. A shortage of trained workers, engineers and equipment has driven up costs in Brazil, and Chevron faces an $18 billion environmental verdict in Ecuador.

Chevron is stopping production plans to better assess its "reservoir management plans" in Brazil, where it has spent over $2 billion developing the largest foreign-run oil field. The suspension will shut down a field with the capacity to produce 80,000 barrels a day, more than 3 percent of Brazil's oil output.

Chevron, which made public on Thursday the request to suspend output at Frade, said the plan was supported by its partners in the field: Brazilian state oil company Petrobras and Frade Japan, which is owned by Japan's Inpex , Japanese trading house Sojitz and Japanese state oil and metals group JOGMEC.

Chevron owns 52 percent of Frade and operates the field. Petrobras owns 30 percent and Frade Japan, 18 percent.

"The decision to request the temporary shut-in of production is a precautionary measure," Chevron said in the statement. "The company will conduct a comprehensive technical study and prepare a complementary study to better understand the geological features of the area, working with partners."

Navy staff found the stain on Friday after flying over the area off Brazil's Atlantic coast, according to a statement late on Friday. The navy, the ANP and environmental protection agency Ibama will monitor and coordinate actions with Chevron to control the stain, the statement added.

Most of the oil coming from the leak is being captured by specially built containment devices, Chevron said, adding additional devices would be installed as needed.

Chevron said on Thursday there was no evidence that the new leak and the one in November were related.

Natural oil leaks in the Campos Basin, home to the Frade field, are common, Cleveland Jones, a geologist at UFRJ, the state university of Rio de Janeiro, said in an interview.

"Until there is some proof, there is a good chance that this leak is a natural occurrence, not something to do with Chevron," he said. "Leaks of this size are common, and are how people realized there was oil in the area in the first place."'

ANP, Brazil's navy and Ibama officials will meet early next week to assess the situation.

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At least they are being held accountable there. Not so much in the U.S.

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#1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:10 AM EDT
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Sure after Obama gave Brazil $2 billion to explore for oil. Preliminary findings lean to this being a natural leak not a man made spill. Get your facts.

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:29 AM EDT
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Like Nick said.....at least Chevron is held accountable. Now Madashell get back to your Gingrich campaigning.

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#1.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

Too bad this isn't done here. Did anyone spend time in jail or even brought up on charges by our government for the Gulf Coast spill? We all know that answer.

So with this new news from Brazl, I expect gas will be another 5-10 cents more expensive today. Guess I should hurry up and top off my cars tank before the gas stations can post their new prices.

  • 17 votes
#1.3 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

Chevron's spill in November leaked as many as 3,000 barrels from sea-floor cracks. It resulted in an $11 billion civil lawsuit, the largest environmental damages case in Brazil's history, although the total amount of oil was less than 0.1 percent of the BP spill in 2010 in the Gulf of Mexico.

Chevron's troubles in Brazil could force it to rethink Latin American strategies. A shortage of trained workers, engineers and equipment has driven up costs in Brazil, and Chevron faces an $18 billion environmental verdict in Ecuador.

Chevron is stopping production plans to better assess its "reservoir management plans" in Brazil, where it has spent over $2 billion developing the largest foreign-run oil field. The suspension will shut down a field with the capacity to produce 80,000 barrels a day, more than 3 percent of Brazil's oil output.

...In other words, Let's stop drilling here where they fine us so heavily, and keep drilling in the USA where we get our hands slapped and can pay our minimal fines with the money we get in tax breaks and subsidies anyway.

  • 25 votes
#1.4 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

Perhaps you should educate yourself on what is really happening. They will bring charges against the execs of the two companies. They will fine Chevron and force them out, and then the Brazilian government will take over the fields and reap the entire profit versus having to share with Chevron. Very similar to how the other countries have driven out the companies. This is nothing more than greed turned around.

  • 12 votes
#1.5 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

I do believe that it is time for people who don't like the oil industry to stop using oil. The ridiculous rants against the companies and it's executives is ludicrous. It seems that you want to live in a world that doesn't exist. The fact is that the oil industry is engaged in dangerous activities. Things happen. Just because things happen doesn't mean that anyone involved is a criminal who should go to jail.

Using the analogy that theory that the left loves to use against the oil company, then the Obama administration should all be in jail. When the gulf spill occurred they were the ones overseeing it. Since the spill happened on their watch they must be criminals and should go to jail. The should have and failed to prevent the spill. Same with the economy. Obama said that it was necessary to spend almost a trillion dollars to keep the unemployment rate below 8%. Well, we've spent well more than that and it's still over 8%. The only logical conclusion is he lied and stole money from us. He is a criminal and should be put in jail. IE: He should be held accountable!

But, we all know that the only people the left wants to hold accountable is the right. The left are immune, even though they do more damage.

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

Hopefully more countries will do what America is too scared to do.. stand up to irresponsible capitalism.

This country is bought and paid for and the only hope is the rest of the world doesn't fall prey to what America has

  • 20 votes
#1.7 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:15 AM EDT

"A shortage of trained workers, engineers and equipment has driven up costs in Brazil"

Actually, one word explain why cost are driven upward for oil and anything else in the world these days... "GREED"!

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

If you don't like it here then pack your bags and go where you are wanted, and i hear Iran is nice this time of year.

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

It's all about accountability witchrunner. Do you honestly believe that the oil/natural gas industry hasn't been running wild? Clearly, Brazil thinks they've been.

  • 10 votes
#1.10 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

Natural seepage of oil occurs all the time. Oil is in the GROUND folks, it DOES percolate, it is lighter than water. And it was $20 billion that Oblama gave to Brazil, not $2 billion...Those EVIL oil companies!!!! They control EVERYTHING!!! Watch the tree huggin' lefties pile on THIS one...

  • 5 votes
#1.11 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

Did anyone, but a very few, actually read this? "

Natural oil leaks in the Campos Basin, home to the Frade field, are common, Cleveland Jones, a geologist at UFRJ, the state university of Rio de Janeiro, said in an interview.

"Until there is some proof, there is a good chance that this leak is a natural occurrence, not something to do with Chevron," he said. "Leaks of this size are common, and are how people realized there was oil in the area in the first place."'

And the last sentence tells it all. If course geologists don't know anything, right?

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

The facts aren't IN on this but it could very well be, as stated in the article, that it is a Natural Occurrence and the fact that this sort of thing is HOW they discovered OIL there in the first place!

But, hell, let's just put them all in jail, just in case!

If you LIBERALS want OUR oil and gas prices to stabilize it is very simple! Quit buying from the WORLD MARKET and become energy independent! It is OUR oil, after all, not the Government's or Big Oil's!

Why aren't all you bleeding hearts UP IN ARMS that we are SELLING our oil to other Countries? We only get pennies on the gallon on these sales but the speculators and Big Oil are reaping huge profits selling it on the World Market! In case you haven't kept up, we have been a NET EXPORTER of Oil and refined products for a year!

The refineries COULDN'T keep up with our demand for Oil and Gas until Big Oil figured out they could export, at great profit, on the World Market! Now, all of a sudden, it comes to light that they have plenty of capacity and have had all along!

And, who do we have to thank for this? Think, who controls 2/3rds of government!

We should be buying OUR OIL from OURSELVES without speculators getting their fingers in OUR pie! We should be buying OUR OIL at something less than $30/barrel, not 3-4 times that on the World Market!

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

Why aren't all you bleeding hearts UP IN ARMS that we are SELLING our oil to other Countries?

Pay attention. We are.

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:50 PM EDT

Julie-401527

Too bad this isn't done here. Did anyone spend time in jail or even brought up on charges by our government for the Gulf Coast spill?...

Well...why don't you go to jail Julie, I'm sure your paying them for their product.

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

Hey Papa.... We should be buying OUR OIL from OURSELVES without speculators getting their fingers in OUR pie! We should be buying OUR OIL at something less than $30/barrel, not 3-4 times that on the World Market!

Thats Red talk man!

  • 2 votes
#1.16 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

The US has more than 200 million barrels of oil on reserve. When do you people finally wake up and smell the coffee? Oil is a fossil fuel that you can't keep drilling, drilling, drilling endlessly and think there's no limit to its supply. How stupid is it to constantly force yourself to be a hostage of Big Oil when there are so many alternatives now?

Big Oil is Big BS when it comes to predatory pricing. They use any possible excuse for inching up the cost and all that does as the last 3 years prove is earn them obscene profits all while they collect taxpayer subsidies.

The only reason oil prices go so high are speculators on Wall Street and the Big Oil Bois lust and greed. No other reason. The minute Iran was out in the wind, suddenly oil prices were "going to $5". BS. The minute it appeared as if there would be a detente between Iran and the US, oil prices went down again.

Big Oil may be a lot of things. But totally lacking in greed isn't one of them. Their oil speculators need to be investigated now. In the meantime, get yourselves a fuel efficient vehicle and give up those damn gas guzzlers. Otherwise, don't bitch about oil prices. Sorry, you can't have it both ways.

    #1.17 - Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

    I'm sure that oil company executives from foreign countries are scrambling to put in place methods of running their Brazil operations from outside of the country.

    Of course, if every country treated environmental damages as the criminal acts they are and held the executives personally responsible, there would be virtually NO oil spills.

      #1.18 - Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

      Green Energy Failure: Windmills, Solar Panels and Hydro
      Project

      Can't Reliably Provide Power For 87 People

      http://motorcitytimes.com/mct/2010/07/green-energy-failure-windmills-solar-panels-and-hydro-project-cant-reliably-provide-power-for-87-people/

      The new 'green energy' system the residents of Eigg
      installed

      was designed to provide a meager 5kW (max.) of power per household. Via the Daily Mail:

      Right now, however, their award-winning and highly
      complex

      eco-energy system, which allows each household access

      to a maximum of 5kW of energy at a time (enough to power a washing machine,

      a small heater or a kettle, but not all at once), is lying largely idle.

      So the wind turbines are still and silent. The hydro
      turbines in

      the rivers and dams are quiet. And toasted teacakes and hot tea are off the

      menu at the Eigg Tearooms.

      So what on earth's going on? Have the Eigg eco-innovators
      been

      victims of some act of jealous vandalism? Has their award- winning electricity

      system blown a fuse?

      Er, no. It turns out that when the good people of Eigg
      put their

      faith in strong winds and pounding rain to provide all their electricity needs,

      they overlooked one possibility – a spell of lovely weather.

      Go figure, no rain or wind and the solar panels

      are not cutting it. Of course this is not a big deal to the residents of Eigg,

      but imagine how chaotic this would be in a large US City.

      We've never taken electricity for granted,' says Maggie,
      61, has

      lived on Eigg for 34 years and has a daughter and granddaughter living nearby.

      'Until a couple of years ago, I was supplied by a tiny

      hydroelectric generator that produced a maximum of 1kW of power. Which powered

      my lights, TV and computer, but not a washing machine, electric kettle, toaster

      or anything like that. And I was one of the lucky ones.'

      A few of her neighbours had no running water and others
      relied

      on their own generator which had to be turned on every morning by hand.

      'So if you got up for a pee in the middle of the night,
      you had

      to take a torch with you or fumble about in the dark,' she adds.

      'And the noise was terrible. If you walked round in the
      evening,

      you'd hear a terrible thumping of generators.

      If green energy can't reliably provide power for 87
      residents

      (who are not big consumers of electricity) how do supporters of 'green energy'

      propose we are going to power large US cities using windmills

      and solar panels?

      The tiny island of Eigg off the coast of Scotland made a
      big

      push for 'green energy' recently. They designed their system to provide 95% of

      the electrical needs for the 87 residents of their island. This should be

      fairly straightforward, since the residents of the island are not big users of

      electricity to start with. They only received regular electrical service in February

      2008.

        #1.19 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:46 AM EDT

        Job Creation

        http://energytomorrow.org/job-creation/#/type/all

        America's oil and natural gas industry supports 9.2 million men and women across the United States in a wide range of highly skilled, well-paying
        professions. In fact, oil and natural gas industry exploration and production
        wages are more than double the national average. An analysis of
        API's public data, independent research and corporate annual reports finds that
        the industry distributed $176 billion in wages paid to U.S. employees, plus
        benefits and payments to oil and natural gas leaseholders.

        Oil and natural gas companies invest in cutting-edge
        technology and offer fulfilling careers to the next generation of American
        engineers, geophysicists, chemists, earth scientists, geologists, climate
        experts and explorers. These individuals, working with the best technologies,
        will help find and recover oil and natural gas here and abroad and help secure
        America's energy future. In addition, the industry employs professionals that
        most people don't normally associate with our industry, such as botanists and
        marine biologists, even zoologists and veterinarians.

        With the right government policies in place, the oil and
        natural gas industry can create more American jobs that can help grow the U.S.
        economy, generate substantial new revenues for government and provide greater
        energy security for our nation.

        In fact, with increased access to U.S. oil and gas
        resources we can create 1
        million new jobs
        in the next ten years alone. To put that in perspective,
        that would provide enough jobs for nearly every citizen of Rhode Island. A
        recent study by Wood
        Mackenzie
        found that by 2030, nearly 1.4 million new jobs could be added
        through policies which encourage development of America's oil and natural
        resources, and facilitate Canadian
        oil sands
        production through the development of Keystone XL and other
        related piplines. A few examples are as follows:

        • Development of the Marcellus
          Shale
          alone could create 160,000 jobs in Pennsylvania, 20,000 jobs in
          New York and 30,000 jobs in West Virginia by 2015.
        • The opening of Florida to
          exploration and development could result in up to 100,000 new
          Florida jobs
          by 2016--just with increased access to federal areas
          within the Gulf of Mexico.
        • U.S. State Department approval of
          the Keystone XL
          pipeline
          could generate nearly
          85,000
          jobs by 2020

        To learn more about the Wood Mackenzie study and view
        state specific job creation numbers, view this interactive job creation map.

          #1.20 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:47 AM EDT

          Green Technology is an economic disaster

          Goodnight Sunshine

          Germany is cutting solar-power subsidies because they are expensive and
          inefficient

          http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/project_syndicate/2012/02/why_germany_is_phasing_out_its_solar_power_subsidies_.html

          Spain's Green Disaster a Lesson for America

          http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/finance/2011/November/Spains-Green-Disaster-a-Lesson-for-America/

            #1.21 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:47 AM EDT
            Reply

            And how much did BP pay for their spill in the gulf. Why was none of their managers or CEO held accountable?

            • 29 votes
            Reply#2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

            The US Government is in bed with Big Oil and Great Britain. Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats would dare to insult either of them by holding them accountable. Brazil doesn't really give a dang about rubbing elbows. If they can get more from holding US Citizens accountable, they will do so in a heartbeat!

            • 13 votes
            #2.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:09 AM EDT

            And how much did BP pay for their spill in the gulf.

            Transocean, the common denominator.

            • 8 votes
            #2.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

            "Obama biggest recipient of BP money over past 20 years"

            http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html

            During 2009 - BP received a SAFETY award from Obama's Administration. After the oil rig explosion, (2010) Obama's administration cancelled another SAFETY Award they were going to issue to BP...

            Prior to the drilling on Deepwater Horozon - the Obama administration granted the oil giant BP a special exemption from a legal requirement that it produce a detailed environmental impact study on the possible effects of its Deepwater Horizon drilling operation in the Gulf of Mexico, an article Wednesday May 2010 in the Washington Post revealed.

              #2.3 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:08 PM EDT
              Reply

              Sea floor cracks leaking oil are a natural phenomenon, not something caused by the oil companies. As stated in the article, it is the leak from these cracks that exposed the presence of oil in the area to start with. In reality, the development of this oil field should eventually diminish or stop the leakage from these crack entirely. This is because pumping the oil out will reduce the natural pressure the oil is under that causes the leaks from these cracks. This case seems like nothing more than an attempt at extorting money from the oil company through the legal system. Unfortunately, things like this are not all that uncommon in South American countries, at least in the ones that have not already nationalized the industry and taken the assets of any corporation that was doing business there at the time. By basically holding the company executives hostage, they increase the chances that the oil company will pay off instead of fighting and risking having their executives put in prison.

              I strongly believe that oil companies should be held responsible when they cause oil spills. However, this does not appear to be on of those times.

              • 19 votes
              Reply#3 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

              I tried that before, none of the Environmental scholars seem to understand that oil is a natural part of our environment...and eventually every single drop will eventually find the surface (being lighter than water and all)

              • 6 votes
              #3.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

              Millions and millions of gallons of oil like the spills in the Gulf of Mexico, the North Sea, off the coast of Africa, etc., are never natural.

              To become an Environmental scholar, the properties of water among other things like the presence of oil is covered in their undergraduate courses with the lead numbers in the 100's...for example: Elemental Properties of the Environment 101.

              • 12 votes
              #3.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

              I'm not so sure its natural, natural sounds good but you know the o$l companies, always thinking...

              • 6 votes
              #3.3 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:10 AM EDT

              I tried that before

              sea floor cracks my ass, keep on trying

              • 5 votes
              #3.4 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

              Funny stuff. "It's just natural cracks and obviously the government of Brazil has just decided to start detaining the top executives of one of the country's major industries just to "extort" them."

              If "things like this are not that uncommon in South American countries" I would be interested in a link or two to a similar story. I wonder if it is possible, just POSSIBLE, that these oil corporations might sometimes cut corners in order to increase profits and are sometimes called on it. Of course, how could I really know if this is "one of those times" from one early news article unless I was just a biased apologist?

              • 5 votes
              #3.5 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

              Brazil is home to *thousands* of global multinational corporations, and has yet to nationalize any of them. Like our own nation, when there is a suspected crime, people get arrested and an investigation and trial commence to determine guilt or innocence.

              What is probably so surprising to you is the fact that a passel of wealthy executives are being treated like everyone else.

              I know it seems strange at first... just give it a little time.

              • 2 votes
              #3.6 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:53 PM EDT
              Reply

              You beat me to that comment, Nick. It's a travesty here.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#4 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

              Corporate accountability? What a novel idea. We should try that in America too.

              • 24 votes
              Reply#5 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

              "The company will conduct a comprehensive technical study and prepare a complementary study to better understand the geological features of the area, working with partners."

              I would think that they should have done that before they put the 1st hole in the sea floor.

              • 22 votes
              Reply#6 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:46 AM EDT

              Wow, as the "leader of the free world" and a "shining beacon of hope" how did Brazil surpass us in corporate accountability and regulation, oh hey, I forgot less regulation stimulates the economy (Reagan speaks from the grave). Did you know that Brazil requires remote control shut offs so that incase of a rig fire,or other casualty that makes it inaccessible, the well head can be shut off from shore!!!! What a novel concept.

              • 22 votes
              Reply#7 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

              Ah, Brazilians have common sense and fun!

              • 8 votes
              #7.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:54 AM EDT
              Reply

              l would imagine Chevron Inc is more powerful in resources than most COUNTRIES in the World, in term of $$ and Counsel.....In a Legal Tussle, they can probably tie these things up for years

              • 3 votes
              Reply#8 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

              You made an error.

              Your sentence should read 'In a legal tussel they can probably tie things up for decades... in America.'

              The rest of the world doesn't always put up with the corporate BS we've been expected to accept here.

                #8.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:58 PM EDT
                Reply

                Lol anytime a story comes out it seems people in the comment section take time to bash the U.S. Well, if this place is so bad, then leave! Move to Brazil and see how it is; it's not just Rio and parties. Crime, drugs, poverty are the norm and a government that is afraid of high-profit companies so that they'll attempt to extort as much money as possible is what you'll be living under. As the story stated, the reason why they knew there was oil in that certain area in the first place was because it was a natural phenomenon and oil was leaking to the top. I'm all for keeping companies accountable, but if the majority of you had your way, businesses would either cease to exist or we'd be paying much, MUCH higher prices for everything--then I'm sure you'd all complain about that too.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#9 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

                You sure nailed it. I lived in the 3rd world for 6 years, and all the people screaming about how terrible it is here should go see how most of the 3rd world lives.

                • 4 votes
                #9.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

                if we leave then you fools will let the powers that be get away with more @!$%# that damages the netire world.

                nope we are staying and were going to keep fighting until we win, or you take us out once for all..

                SO put up or STFU

                • 6 votes
                #9.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

                1. Brazil is hardly the 'third world'

                2. In case you haven't noticed since you last whined about it, the U.S. has plenty of crime and poverty.

                3. The economy of Brazil just surpassed the economy of Great Britain and has been growing faster than ours for a decade.

                Please update your stale old ideas of how the U.S. is so superior to the rest of the 'third world'. You wouldn't believe how much has changed since you've been glued to your AM radio. It seems like the more we go begging to corporations, and fight their battles, the poorer we become-- the rest of the world seems to have learned from our hilarious mistakes.

                • 1 vote
                #9.3 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:04 PM EDT
                Reply

                The CRUDE OIL production end of the oil industry is very profitable but also entails substantial RISK!

                Should the oil producer be accountable for oil spills, YES!

                CRUDE OIL availability is FINITE, therefore ALL fractions from refining crude oil are finite, motor fuels, lubricants, asphalt and chemicals.

                This Nation, the United States of America, MUST agressively pursue and develope alternative energy sources that are infinite or renewable.

                The CLIMATE CHANGE DENIERS, MUST come to their senses, we do pollute and we can control and eliminate most pollution, there are many proven reults, some with economic pay backs, ALL with HEALTH REWARDS!

                • 9 votes
                Reply#10 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

                How pathetic that Mr. apologetic sent my tax dollars to Brazil for oil exploration then they hold our execs for ransom when things don't go so well. Mr. Obama I want my tax dollars back or are you that lame of a leader!!!!!

                • 4 votes
                Reply#11 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

                How pathetic that Mr. 'cannot travel out of the country because I'm a war criminal' spent trillions of my tax dollars on two unnecessary, underfunded wars. Mr. Bush I wan't my tax dollars AND my dead soldiers back or are you really the worst president in this country's history!!!!

                Go away troll

                • 13 votes
                #11.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

                Chuck M, if you would have done any research instead of just using talking points....you would know that the money we sent to Brazil was a loan not a gift. And Mr. Obama did not send it, our country did.

                • 9 votes
                #11.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

                Unfortunatly China was in Brazil FIRST - They loaned them over 10+Billion USD and received guarantees for oil/NG deliveries for up to 200,000 barrels of oil per day for the next decade....

                Obama’s $2 billion to Brazil just ends up helping send oil to China...

                  #11.3 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:20 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  17 executives from Chevron and transocean have been barred from leaving Brazil pending criminal charges related to a high profile oil spill last November.

                  This is not about the natural leaks it is about an actual spill I hope they jail them all.

                  • 10 votes
                  #12 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

                  Wehere in the United States only have 1.5% of the world's proven reserves of petroleum left. Therefore to get what at is left of the remaining 98.5% the oil executives have to get it from outside the United States. Some countries, these executives have bought off the leaders and they do pretty much as they please. In Nigeria for example, Shell Oil operated with impunity making the rivers and off shore areas into a toxic waste dump. One leader who tried to lead the people in protecting their environment was arrested by the government and hanged. Shell Oil, in spite of the influence they have over the government there, did nothing to stop the execution and now goes on with business as usual with no one stopping them. Brazil is a different matter. Good for Brazil! I hope these oil executives get what they have coming to them for what they did to the enviroment there. We could have been free of oil decades ago, had it not been for the influence of these oil moguls.

                  • 5 votes
                  #12.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

                  Where did you pull that 1.5% figure from??? We have one of the largest shale oil deposits in the world???Not counting that??

                    #12.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                    It is often REPORTED that (regardless of the % of world supply) we have approximately 100 YEARS supply of OIL and NATURAL GAS (each) "under our feet"!

                    Given that FACT, why is this Administration pushing to wean us off oil in ONE Presidential Term? We have, comfortably, 50 YEARS for science and technology to catch up and provide us with alternatives.

                    We may be the World's largest, single, consumer of OIL but there is a lot more to the world than just us! Every emerging industrial Nation consumes oil and because we are subsidizing their growth by buying from them, we are encouraging them to consume even more OIL! On top of that, they don't have ANY environmental concerns because they don't give a crap about it!

                    All you TREE HUGGERS seem to forget that THIS COUNTRY got to where we are BECAUSE OF our Oil, Natural Gas and Coal to provide the energy! You also IGNORE the fact that WE are the only Nation to, really, enact any controls to minimize our impact on the environment!

                    So, now, we are supposed to go bankrupt trying to force science and technology to get us to ZERO carbon output to make up for the pollution of the rest of the WORLD? A lovely, Liberal ideal but not a reality that will keep us as the leader of the free world!

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                    #12.3 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                    Where did you pull that 1.5% figure from??? We have one of the largest shale oil deposits in the world???Not counting that??

                    That's counting the shale. You don't know much about shale and neither does that idiot Santorum who held up a chunk of shale at his victory primary speech. Only between 1 and 2% is recoverable. They don't dig this stuff up and crush it to get at the 98% locked in that rock. They would have dig up a volume of shale equal to digging a new Panama Canal each day to meet our needs! The amount of energy they would get from that oil from that shale would be far outweighed by the amount of energy to get that oil in having to dig it up and crush it out of the rock! So, you know what they do instead? They do fracking. They pump water down there and force up just the residue. The real bulk of that oil stays in the ground where there is no way to get at it.

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                    #12.4 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                    The President is only trying to begin the process (in one term of office) of reducing our oil usage, for example by approving new vehicle fuel efficiency standards that won't even fully take effect for several more years. And the U.S. recognizes that all nations (including China) must be included in international negotiations to reduce carbon emissions.

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                    #12.5 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

                    It is often REPORTED that (regardless of the % of world supply) we have approximately 100 YEARS supply of OIL and NATURAL GAS (each) "under our feet"!

                    The world began with one Lake Erie filled of oil. We now have one half of a Lake Erie. It took us just over a hundred years to empty this Lake Erie's worth with many of those early years of the 20th Century hardly using any at all. Before World War II was when the real guzzling began. Now we are chugging down this stuff like there is no tormorrow. What lasted a hundred years, can't possibly last another hundred years like the first half. And what is left is much harder and expensive to get at. We don't have a choice anymore. We have to get off this stuff. The good news is that renewable energy is doable, it is cheap, it is unlimited and it will never run out.

                    So, now, we are supposed to go bankrupt trying to force science and technology to get us to ZERO carbon output to make up for the pollution of the rest of the WORLD? A lovely, Liberal ideal but not a reality that will keep us as the leader of the free world!

                    The oil industry is given each year 4 Billion dollars in tax subsidies. That money is enough to pay for enough wind turbine generators equal to 3,000 Mega Watts of power. That is equal to one and a half Hoover Dams. Each year we spend 700 Billion dollars for foreign oil. That is enough money to pay for 250 Hoover Dams' worth. If we had 500 Hoover Dams, that would supply all our electrical power, not needing anything else. We could run all our cars on electricity too. Problem solved. You and your filthy stinkin oil isn't doing us any favors.

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                    #12.6 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

                    It is often REPORTED that (regardless of the % of world supply) we have approximately 100 YEARS supply of OIL and NATURAL GAS (each) "under our feet"!

                    The world began with one Lake Erie filled of oil. We now have one half of a Lake Erie. It took us just over a hundred years to empty this Lake Erie's worth with many of those early years of the 20th Century hardly using any at all. Before World War II was when the real guzzling began. Now we are chugging down this stuff like there is no tormorrow. What lasted a hundred years, can't possibly last another hundred years like the first half. And what is left is much harder and expensive to get at. We don't have a choice anymore. We have to get off this stuff. The good news is that renewable energy is doable, it is cheap, it is unlimited and it will never run out.

                    So, now, we are supposed to go bankrupt trying to force science and technology to get us to ZERO carbon output to make up for the pollution of the rest of the WORLD? A lovely, Liberal ideal but not a reality that will keep us as the leader of the free world!

                    The oil industry is given each year 4 Billion dollars in tax subsidies. That money is enough to pay for enough wind turbine generators equal to 3,000 Mega Watts of power. That is equal to one and a half Hoover Dams. Each year we spend 700 Billion dollars for foreign oil. That is enough money to pay for 250 Hoover Dams' worth. If we had 500 Hoover Dams, that would supply all our electrical power, not needing anything else. We could run all our cars on electricity too. Problem solved. You and your filthy stinkin oil isn't doing us any favors.

                    • 2 votes
                    #12.7 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

                    Pappadave needs to keep up with thr REAL estimates of natural gas reserves. Try starting with the bogus Marcellus estimates pappa.

                      #12.8 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

                      It has taken between 50-300 million years to form, and yet we have managed to burn roughly half of all global oil reserves in merely 125 years or so.

                      The world now consumes 85 million barrels of oil per day, or 40,000 gallons per second, and demand is growing exponentially.

                      http://www.oildecline.com/

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                      #12.9 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                      Radar015, do you know how much gas and oil it would take to build 500 wind turbines since they are made out of petroleum products? How much petroleum products would it take to build 500 Hoover dams along with the environmental damage to the rivers? As 3rd world countries mature and develop they will use more and more petroleum products. It's not just cars that use petroleum products it's used in the making of many products we use on a daily basis such as water and sewer pipe as a couple of examples. If wind turbine is the answer, why are they being abandoned across the US? Because their is not enough infrastructure in place to get the power where it needs to go and no one wants to pay for it.

                        #12.10 - Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:24 AM EDT

                        Where are wind turbines being abandoned? There may be a few examples, but I suspect not many. Yes, some infrastructure investment is needed for wind and solar, but that's an investment we need to make. And non-fuel uses of petroleum are not the issue; if we used much less for fuel, there would be plenty to make plastics and other products for a long time to come.

                          #12.11 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:36 AM EDT

                          EricH-3359508,

                          CA is ordered to remove hundreds of wind turbines due to Raptor deaths... see http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/02/MNITTM9FA.DTL

                          Hawaii & CA wind turbines are abandoned due to souring maintenance cost... see http://www.zimbio.com/member/StoryReports/articles/qmUuK2zben5/Abandoned+Rusted+Wind+Turbines+Reflect+Hoax

                          UK has hundreds of off-shore wind turbines sinking & tilting... see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1265886/Sinking-turbines-cost-British-wind-farms-50million.html

                          Thousands of abandoned wind turbines littered the landscape of wind energy's California "big three" locations -- Altamont Pass, Tehachapi, and San Gorgonio -- considered among the world's best wind sites.

                          California's wind farms -- then comprising about 80% of the world's wind generation capacity -- ceased to generate much more quickly than Kamaoa. In the best wind spots on earth, over 14,000 turbines were simply abandoned. Spinning, post-industrial junk which generates nothing but bird kills... see http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/wind_energys_ghosts_1.html

                            #12.12 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

                            The Altamont Pass wind turbines are the old design (with smaller blades that rotate fast) dating back to the 1980s; there are far fewer problems with new designs. New wind installations are already competitive with other sources of electricity.

                              #12.13 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:16 PM EDT

                              EricH-3359508,

                              So lets change them out every thirty years or so...

                              Sounds like a valid economical approach to me... Ha! Ha!

                              Just like the solar panels that have to be replaced every 20 to 30+years due to decreasing efficiency and souring maintenance cost...

                              Where are your references that prove they are competitive over their expected service life???

                                #12.14 - Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

                                But refineries are maintenance free forever?

                                  #12.15 - Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

                                  Stand up, speak out,

                                  How many NEW refineries have been built in the USA during the last 36+years???

                                  US: No New Refineries in 29 Years

                                  by Jad Mouawad, New York Times dtd May 9th, 2005

                                    #12.16 - Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:13 PM EDT

                                    You made my point.

                                      #12.17 - Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:19 PM EDT

                                      One of the largest income streams for the Federal Government after personnel income taxes is...

                                      Taxes & Royalties collected from the energy companies... see http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/may/06/darrell-issa/issa-says-oil-royalties-trail-only-taxes-generalti/

                                      While the energy companies receive tax credits & incentives from the US Government. The amount they PAY is considerably HIGHER...

                                      Plus they act as a collection agent for the US & State governments for the fuel taxes, the consumer pays...

                                      Lets talk about the RETURNS from the Green Energy pets:

                                      I. The Volt

                                      1. Everyone comes with at $7,500+USD tax credit...

                                      2. They pay little road use taxes...

                                      3. Some states are providing FREE charging stations...

                                      II. Wind Turbines

                                      1. California's wind farms -- then comprising about 80% of the world's wind generation capacity -- ceased to generate much more quickly than Kamaoa. In the best wind spots on earth, over 14,000 turbines were simply abandoned. Spinning, post-industrial junk which generates nothing but bird kills... see http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/wind_energys_ghosts_1.html

                                      2. Hawaii & CA wind turbines are abandoned due to souring maintenance cost... see http://www.zimbio.com/member/StoryReports/articles/qmUuK2zben5/Abandoned+Rusted+Wind+Turbines+Reflect+Hoax

                                      3. UK has hundreds of off-shore wind turbines sinking & tilting... see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1265886/Sinking-turbines-cost-British-wind-farms-50million.html

                                      III. Solar power

                                      Research the Blyth, CA thermal/solar panel facility. Projected service life of the reflectors & PANELS - 30+years. Forget about the water table depletion, the endangered animals/plants, and the destroyed American Indian heritage sites (geoglyphs)...

                                      I only see a pay-out NO return to the Fed or States...

                                        #12.18 - Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:15 PM EDT
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                                        Are you kidding me ? A breathe of fresh air ! !

                                        And already the corporate apologist on this site saying that this happens all the time, naturally . . . .

                                        Well then why does the company not have a containment plan in place for these 'natural leaks' ?

                                        Go away with the sympathy routine.

                                        Finally some refreshing accountability which is only a pipe dream in the US.

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                                        Reply#13 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                                        Well then why does the company not have a containment plan in place for these 'natural leaks' ?

                                        Hey! I've got an idea! Let's require all the Oil Companies to blanket the oceans with containments just in case some percolates to the surface somewhere on the planet! Think of all the jobs it will create!

                                          #13.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:03 PM EDT
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                                          There must be less corruption in Brazil ? Remember burn coal the clean alternative ??? This world has turned into one giant cluster fvck $$$$$

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                                          Reply#14 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

                                          How about that blond wearing that black pants suit walking over a big map saying oil and gas is great and creates jobs for millions of people? Does that include the people hired to clean up the messes they make?

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                                          #14.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

                                          That's exactly what I was picturing. I hope that lying sack of vomit gets a terminal case of the crabs.

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                                          #14.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:20 PM EDT
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                                          Don't worry the US Government will give them another tax break to pay for the spill in Brazil

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                                          Reply#15 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

                                          Either that, or start a campaign to take away their WMD's ???

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                                          #15.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

                                          Only if Romney get's in and the 1% lets him

                                            #15.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:51 AM EDT
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                                            why are some of the people here trying to equate Brazil to the U.S. Those executives knew where they were at and that they are subject to Brazil's laws and not the U.S. If an American is busted for speeding in a Ford made in Brazil helped by finances from the U.S. they will still get a ticket and everything that goes with a speeding ticket in Brazil. The we helped build it and your laws don't apply to me thought process nothing but sad. Just because you think of something stupid does not mean you have to say it.

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                                            Reply#16 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

                                            I did not do that it must have been GOD or someone else.

                                              Reply#17 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

                                              This is what would happen here in the US also if it were not for the power and control the oil corporations have over our own government that they have bought with their ill gotten Billions. Here, they are allowed to poison us and get away with it every time.

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                                              Reply#18 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

                                              do you have money? we heard you might have some

                                                Reply#19 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:29 AM EDT

                                                DIRTY politics, again & again & then some more dirt. What a joke the usa has become. We are the laughing stock of the world, but BY our own choice and actions too!!!

                                                All of our polititions ought to be ashamed of themselves here in the usa.

                                                # This - From a Republican - who did not vote for Trikky-Dick, nor Ronny - the "let-tit trickle down your leg", theory, Reagan, nor Bushy 1, AKA: Carlyle OIL-CO-Kuwait, nor Bushy jr = WMD, nor Jon-Boy and whom will not be voting for Mittz. I will probably have to vote for Santorum or Ron P, howebver RP's waaaaaaaaaay to honest & forthright for my Republican party to support, or let have ANY crack, at RIGHTING AMERICA. (We are totally UP-SIDE-DOWN!!!)

                                                MY REPUBLICAN party >>> still does NOT know why, NOR how, we lost the last election to mister OBY, Kn-obie!!! My party needs a RE-AAAAAAALITY chekkup and SOON!

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                                                Reply#20 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

                                                It is about time these horrible people will be accountable for the damage they do and not be able to leave the country where they are doing the damage in.

                                                It is like you can't run or hide from where you are doing the damage it is about time this happens.

                                                My biggest concern are all of the innocent animals that have NOTHING to do with what humans want and need will pay for all of these horrible acts and that is so sad I don't have the proper words.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                Reply#21 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

                                                I wonder how mush the price of gas will increase to pay for these executives legal teams? You know they won't be paying for that out of pocket! Oil Companies + government (any country) = GREED

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                                                Reply#22 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

                                                Belive it or not, the natural leakage of petroleum based chemicals are figured into these amounts. The average amount of leagage in all waters is over a large, and I mean large area of the oceans through out the world. The concentrated amounts release have a much greater impact on the area environment. Such man made leaks like this and the BP disaster would not be such a big problem over the entire world. Yet do to their small area and concentrated amount released, it has a disastrous effect in that location.

                                                Come on naysayers, come back with some actual facts and science to prove me wrong!!!!!!

                                                • 2 votes
                                                Reply#23 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

                                                If Brazil has environmental balls, why is the Amazon rainforest being cut down ?

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                                                Reply#24 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

                                                Most of the tourist dollars are spent on the beaches and not the rainforest. Get a clue were the dollars come from my friend.

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                                                #24.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:58 AM EDT
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                                                This is what we should've done to the BP bastards.

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                                                Reply#25 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

                                                Shut up

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                                                #25.1 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                                                Mary i love your comment

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                                                #25.2 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:28 PM EDT
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