We still have soldiers there.

I'm a mom of one.

WE live in a nation of idiots. This was so predictable, what a disgrace this country has become. At the start a large percentage of the country supported this war. Stupidity, pick up a book. This is not new. Its been this way over their since before Jesus. In fact way before Jesus. Babylon is Iraq. If you supported the war at the start, then suck it up, its your penalty for stupidity. And in the future may I recommend sitting down and shutting up.....for the good of the country.

The purpose of Iraq war was W's ego, Cheney's hubris, and enriching their no bid contract defense contractor friends.

Paul-794119 Oh, that's great advise. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, "All evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing." So when our government takes even more of our rights as citizens in the name of protecting its citizens from the problem it creates, we should sit there and shut up.

Sure and that's why your broke ass is advertising for her right? LOL

There were 150 iraqis killed last month, so what, we had 10 killed and 39 other shot in chicago this past weekend?????? The US is a war zone but all our government can do is hold out a helping hand to every other country and do nothing about our gangs and crime.

Mission Accomplished! George W. Bush May 1, 2003

4,347 Americans were killed since Mission Accomplished! 4,486 Americans died in Iraq. 33,184 wounded. Total cost of the Iraq, CBO estimates $7 Trillion, $7,000,000,000,000, including the cost of medical and other benefits to our soldiers for a lifetime.

Thank you George Bush and Chicken Cheney

http://www.change.org/petitions/bring-our-troops-home-from-afghanistan

Iraqi forces are being reactive and not proactive. The sate of Iraq requires more vigilance and military intervention at this point,to get away from the need of the military to be right on top of its citizens, at present this is not the case.

Watchtowers at four points(or POEs, points of entry) of a city will achieve the surveillance needed to monitor traffic of all types in and out of these cities(the same as towers for forest fires). In the aftermath of an attack they could also see where the perpetrators are escaping to. The towers may not prevent an attack but they will go along way to narrow down who,what and where, and also improve response time.

Soon as an attack is seen by a tower a plan should be in place to "seal" the city then close in on those that pose the danger.

Just one idea.

Iraq must go on the offensive against Al Qeada, who are mostly behind these bombings with the hope of sparking a sectarian war. A heavy hand must be used at the beginning to establish rule of law, especially when you have a segment of society trying to undermine it. They have the ability to root out this evil, but they do not seem to have the will for some reason.

No army should rest if their citizens are being brutally slaughtered by the dozens.

@ jake;

4,347 Americans were killed since Mission Accomplished! 4,486 Americans died in Iraq. 33,184 wounded. Total cost of the Iraq, CBO estimates $7 Trillion, $7,000,000,000,000, including the cost of medical and other benefits to our soldiers for a lifetime.

Each time an Iraqi cast a vote,or speaks their mind without fear of being imprisoned or tortured means our men and women did not die in vain. The world must be rid of evil before it is allowed to grow. Our men and women fought for their family and friends, coiuntry and commanders,not G.W ,or Cheney. They were fighting for a pourpose not politics, and did a great job.

@Jake Reyna

If you are so hell bent on blaming Bush for the war, where is your blame placed since we are still in country??? I don't see you condemning the lack of action by our current no-action president. If he was any different, he would have pulled our forces out of there already. Oh wait, that is something he will do if he gets re-elected. He needs a head liner to make his second term "presidency" seem as though something was accomplished.

You are a hypocrite and Mr No Action sucks.

NuffsnuffPaul-794119 Oh, that's great advise. I'm sure you've heard the phrase, "All evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing."

Nufffsnuff, I dont think I'd count on paul being to even to understand your comment.

Assuming that their God Allah (not mine) exists. I can tell you this, I would denounce his murderous ways, burn any and all things pertaining to him. Who, among you would want or find the need to worship a being that is obviously so full of hatred and evilness that where ever he is, only coldness, darkness, hopelessness, and death prevail? My religion has a being like that. I call him Satan.

@ Jake Reyna

The highest number of death during the Bush years was 296 soldiers in one year , under the Commander in Chief President Obama, 516 soldiers died in 2009. However there is no more protest from leftist antiwar groups like Pink Code. Halliburton was demonized by the left, now Soros has purchase more than 60 millions in stocks and nobody say anything. The left is just bias. Same with the price of gas, where is your outrage , so is ok the high price of gas with Obama but wasn't with Bush, however price of gas went down with Bush, but with Obama gas will continue high. I make a prediction if Obama lose that is most likely, Spain now that they have a right wing Government, the left is going to creating chaos, strikes, protest, here OWS/Dems/Unions will riot in the streets.

Each time an Iraqi cast a vote,or speaks their mind without fear of being imprisoned or tortured means our men and women did not die in vain. The world must be rid of evil before it is allowed to grow. Our men and women fought for their family and friends, coiuntry and commanders,not G.W ,or Cheney. They were fighting for a pourpose not politics, and did a great job.

Ya, getting blown to bits on the way to the election booth with a ballot consisting of two choices - 1) that thug al Sadr and 2) that thug al Sadr........wow........mission accomplished there!

Pfffffffft. *Face Palm* YeeeeHaaaaaaaa!

Izmee..I understand the phrase. I also understand what is possible and what is impossible. Reagan learned this in Lebanon. Bush 41 knew this also. In fact many Senators and Bush 41 advisors tried to warn everyone about the Cheney plan. Based on world history.

@hotticket;

Ya, getting blown to bits on the way to the election booth with a ballot consisting of two choices

Yes they as us are willing to risk and sacrifice their lives to have a voice, and have a say. We gave them the start,now it is up to them to sink or swim.

We gave them a start, baloney. We took away the only stability they had when we went in for ther regime change. Iraq had a strong leader in Saddam Hussein, who never would have permitted the terrorism and bloodshed which is racking that country today.

It was the meddling of the Zionist neoconservatives in Bushs' Pentagon that caused this mess. They thought they were helping Israel, by bringing down Saddam. The plan was to install a leader who would be friendly to Israel and permit an oil pipeline to be built from Iraq to Haifa in Israel.

"The pipeline would be a dream," Yosef Paritzky, Israel's minister
of infrastructures, said as reported by Salon.com. "We'd have an
additional source of supply, and could even export some of the crude through
Haifa. But we'd need a treaty with Iraq . . . to build the pipeline."

Once Chalabi assumed a position of influence in the new Iraqi government,
Israel would get its treaty, the neoconservatives were assured. The pipeline
was by no means the only reason for going to war, but it could well have been
one reason.

http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/19725/iraq-to-haifa-oil-pipeline-could-spur-economic-rebirth/

U.S.
checking possibility of pumping oil from northern Iraq to Haifa, via Jordan

By Amiram Cohen

The
United States has asked Israel to check the possibility of pumping oil from
Iraq to the oil refineries in Haifa. The request came in a telegram last week
from a senior Pentagon official to a top Foreign Ministry official in
Jerusalem.

The
Prime Minister's Office, which views the pipeline to Haifa as a
"bonus" the U.S. could give to Israel in return for its unequivocal
support for the American-led campaign in Iraq, had asked the Americans for the
official telegram.

The
new pipeline would take oil from the Kirkuk area, where some 40 percent of
Iraqi oil is produced, and transport it via Mosul, and then across Jordan to
Israel. The U.S. telegram included a request for a cost estimate for repairing
the Mosul-Haifa pipeline that was in use prior to 1948. During the War of
Independence, the Iraqis stopped the flow of oil to Haifa and the pipeline fell
into disrepair over the years.

The National Infrastructure Ministry has recently conducted research indicating
that construction of a 42-inch diameter pipeline between Kirkuk and Haifa would
cost about $400,000 per kilometer. The old Mosul-Haifa pipeline was only 8
inches in diameter.

National Infrastructure Minister Yosef Paritzky said yesterday that the port of Haifa is
an attractive destination for Iraqi oil and that he plans to discuss this
matter with the U.S. secretary of energy during his planned visit to Washington
next month. Paritzky added that the plan depends on Jordan's consent and that
Jordan would receive a transit fee for allowing the oil to piped through its
territory. The minister noted, however, that "due to pan-Arab concerns, it
will be hard for the Jordanians to agree to the flow of Iraqi oil via Jordan
and Israel."

Sources
in Jerusalem confirmed yesterday that the Americans are looking into the
possibility of laying a new pipeline via Jordan and Israel. (There is also a
pipeline running via Syria that has not been used in some three decades.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=332835&contrassID=...'

Get Out!!! Drill for oil here all while working on viable alternative energy sources.

Bring our kids home!! If they (anyone) attack the main land of the United States. Use our air and sea forces to turn the country into a parking lot. Yes innocent people will die. We had children on airplanes that hit the pentagon and the twin towers too!!

I do not ever want a fight, but if you bring one, you will get one.

to RalphH

Thanks for the links. But for your timeline and reading comprehension it might have been at best just another bigoted anti-semitic post. One of the links is dated in April, after the war had already started and the other that conicides with the war was a request from the US to Israel and not the other way around. And in case you have not looked into the investigation of the bogus war on WMD's going on in Great Britain, which you probably have not, you would have learned they were the ones who wanted the oil along with the US thinking they would pay for the war with it.

@ralph;

We gave them a start, baloney. We took away the only stability they had when we went in for ther regime change. Iraq had a strong leader in Saddam Hussein, who never would have permitted the terrorism and bloodshed which is racking that country today.

Yes instead he used anthrax, and toxic chemicals on thousands of his own countrymen. Listed as one of the most brutal dictators of the 20th century. You call Hussein a "strong leader"?

Although far from perfect as most new Democracies, they have the start of one,let us hope they can hold on to it.

You sir win the "ignorant statement of the day " award bestowed by Coral Taxi.

@Paul-794119

It's ironic how you skewer our entire nation as being filled with idiots while you yourself don't seem to understand the simple grammatical difference between the words, 'their' and 'there'.

Just a heads up, the next time you feel the contemptuous need to ridicule the intellectual merits of an entire country, while arrogantly, and quite mistakenly I might add, holding yourself above the teeming masses of uneducated Americans, learn to spell and do a little investigative work into syntax. This way you won't foolishly look like the pot calling the kettle black.

Or, as you eloquently stated, may I recommend sitting down and shutting up..... for the good of the country.

Not sure why everyone keeps saying that we have no troops there except that is what the major news sources have said - but we do in fact still have units stationed there.

So, I will kindly ask you to stop saying that we do not and listen to me or I will sue this government for a hate crime.

Mackie, I will agree with you that there are still troops still in Iraq. One of the ladies I work with has a grandson still in Iraq. "USMC" Last I heard they were awaiting deployment to Syria.

Mackie, what hate crime are you going to sue government for.

I'm fairly certain that there are at least 25k-30k+ US troops in Iraq whose mission is to serve as a reactionary force and trainers for the Iraqi air force, military and security/police. This is on top of the 40k+ 'security contractors' (read: Mercenaries) who are also there working for the US and the various corporations who have reaped all of the benefits of the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Sorry, but the US combat mission isn't done in Iraq by a long shot and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know wtf they're talking about.

Bring the troops home, vote for Ron Paul and save yourselves.

You mean someone got kicked out after a diplomatic failure on top of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and making all the money and lives lost for naught.

Huh? Mackie -- that was total uncalled for. For one thing the administration that should be receiving your contempt is Bush's. After all wasn't his admin. who stuck the troops in on a lie? Geez. Anyways, your son joined the military and now is "government issue." It is his JOB to do what he is told and go where he is told. That's what my taxes are paying for. BTW, I'm a child of a lifer who did two tours in Vietnam, a grandchild of two men who fought in WWII. And while I don't want to see our involvement in Iraq or Afghanistan continue, I cannot stomach all this irrational hatred of a President who is only trying to mop up after the previous President's mess.

Mackie, sounds like you are things kind of personal.

didn't you know?? they are still searching for bin laden and weapons of mass destruction!

Uneasy, live in your fantasy world. Mackie is right. The media has never given the true story. I was there twice. Weapons were found, covered up. Funny how elections are rigged that way. End of combat missions, lie, search and destroy still occurred for two years. The troops are still there because we are still trying to force a democracy on them. Tell them democracy is wonderful as their country is torn apart. Yes, the boss ordered them to stay in place. Not Bush, not Cheney. One person has the power to end all of this. Where is that action? Haven't seen it. God bless our troops and the uncertain and dangerous roads they must ride these days. the sooner we get them all home, the better. It's time we circle the wagons and take care of the gangs on our streets, the border incursions, and use our assets to take care of the homeless and forgotten in our own backyard.

WoW did president Obama FORCE your offspring to JOIN the military??? Didnt YOU warn your offspring that the MILITARY is about killing and being killed ??? I bet you are Against ABORTION too...

Joe you are completely lost. Please buy a ancient world history book. To much Foxnews man.

Paul, what is an ancient history book going to do for Joe except teach him about the Achaemenid (Persian) Empire which stretched from Greece and Libya to India? The Persian are the current day Iranians.

He would know that trying to conquer Iraq has been tried over and over and has always failed. Call in Bagdad or call it Babylon. Its all the same and its always a big fat loser.

ExMilitary..Get your head out of your arse and shut up!

Joe - I would guess you have no idea what you are talking about. What has Iran to gain? Give us a quick summary.

Iran has all the land, water and oil it needs. It doesn't need land in Iraq and it certainly doesn't need or want land in Israel.The Persians have been happily living on their own land for thousands of years and haven't started a war in well over 100 years..

Paul, I don't see anything that Joe said that warranted your comment. In fact, Joe is much less lost than you. If you don't think that the Iranians are meddling in Iraq you are truly delusional. The Iranian dream of a worldwide caliphate supports Joe's assertion. Maybe you should look up those ancient history books yourself since you are wrong about the area never being conquered. Try Assyrian, Medo-Persian, Selecuid, Parthian, Rashidun Caliphate, Mongols, Turkmens, Ottoman and others as groups that have conquered that area now known as Iraq.

Realist - You mention that Iran has a dream of a world wide caliphate, but don't show any proof. Perhaps someone in Iran has that dream, but if anyone believes Iran's ME policies are built on such a dream is a half wit. Here is some information on Iran's nuclear weapons.

By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 3/18/12 5:57 PM EDT

JERUSALEM - Despite saber-rattling from Jerusalem, Israeli officials now agree
with the U.S. assessment that Tehran has not yet decided on the actual construction
of a nuclear bomb, according to senior Israeli government and defense figures.

Even so, there is great concern in Israel about leaving Iran “on the cusp”
of a bomb - explaining why Israel continues to hint at a military attack on
Iran’s nuclear installations before it moves enough of them underground to
protect them from Israel’s bombs. Iran reported in February that it possesses
up to 100 kilograms of uranium enriched to 20 percent, which would be enough
for four bombs if further processed. Uranium must be enriched to 90 percent to
be military grade.

Israeli intelligence officials, like other intelligence agencies worldwide,
estimate that once a decision to build a bomb is reached, it would take months
to upgrade the enrichment and months more to build a crude bomb - in all, a
year to 18 months. (My Note: They would have to kick out the inspectors before increased enrichment could ever start, which would give the world plenty of time to react).

Then, to fit a bomb to a Shahab-3 missile capable of striking Israel would
take Iran two years, Israeli defense officials say.

Israeli officials who favor a strike do not want Iran even to reach the
point where work on a bomb could begin.

So all the Zionists who claimed Iran is racing to make a nuclear weapon are full of bull. There is no proof of any such thing. Even the Israelis have come clean. If there was evidence, they would not let this story be printed. All 16 US intelligence agencies concluded Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. Meanwhile, Israel sits with a vast supply of nuclear weapons and make threats directed at a nation who has none.

The Israeli regime is one of war mongering psychopaths, with plenty of support from equally insane Zionist/Americans. One can read their posts on these forums daily, calling for attacks, nuking Iran and blaming Iran for every terrorist attack that takes place in the world.

Well said. And Iraq will again have a strongman in charge or be divided. It will take a dictator to hold it together. I would also note the the Chinese got the oil rights.

Warranger. Sounds like you had a personal relationship with sadam. Seeing that you know so much.

Yea Ranger, you're right!

And Hitler, the world was better off with him too!

and Pol Pot !!

And Stalin!!!

Such a shame that your love Saddam was taken out.

My condolences.

B Stevens and Izmee.. Let me quote Bush Sr...... I did not send the military to overthrow Saddam, I sent them there to drive his army out of Kuwait.. IF i had sent them to overthrow Saddam Hussein. Maybe a worse dictator would be in charge.. That counrty knows only one kind of govt..Islam, and NO ONE will change that. take out Saddam and Sunnis and Shiites will start killing each other. end quote..Now readd the news article AGAIN.. Sunnis and shiites killing each other for CONTROL of Iraq. ISLAM ring a bell ???

I see all the Foxnews phony cons would rather dig in their heels and continue to look foolish, than admit they are wrong

Desert Storm was not justifiable, it was a brokered deal. The Saudis could have and should have fought their own fight. Vested oil interests and greed. It's all a moot point, it's History. The frustrating part is, nothing is ever learned from History and applied to the present. Same dumb mistakes over and over. Bitch all you want about President Obama, but he's trying to put the fire's out with diplomacy and not gasoline.

Paul..You don't know what you are talking about. Shell got the biggest oil rights in Iraq, not China .

No Steven, War ranger just doesn't have his head up his a$$ like those who think Bush did a fine job. If you were a little less concerned with Israel and more concerned with the well being of the US and the citizens of Iraq, you might be able to understand that Iraqi freedom was a colossal mistake, planned and sold by Zionists, led by Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams and Douglas Feith.

wow more of the same. really on a mission here? try and keep your brown shirt and shorts clean while your at it

Hey Should, got a problem with the facts. Facts are facts, and cannot be changed. Do you think Wolfowitz and his cabal of neocons didn't plan and sell the Iraq war? Do you think they had nothing to do with all the false intelligence? Did you ever hear of the " Office of Special Plans"? Look it up.

Do any of you people ragging on me for what I stated realize that before Saddam got a case of the stupids and invaded Kuwait, he was one of our better allies in the Mideast? He kept Iran in check for us, he was not a sponsor of terrorism, and WE SOLD HIS COUNTRY WEAPONS! All you fu-kers that have never been there or seen what the country was like before we took him out have no basis to talk sh-t. Hell, I remember a few Iraqi officers coming through Ranger school at Ft. Benning. Does that sound like a historical enemy of the U.S.? If you don't know what your talking about or just want to apologize for someone because he happens to be of the same political faith as you, even though you know he screwed up, just shut the vomit hole under your nose. I could not care less if you are Republican, Democrat, Independent, or Grand Poobah to the Royal Order of Dirty Underwear. When your ego starts wars, YOU SUCK!!! Especially when your not the one whom has to try and clean up the mess.

@ izmee and bstevens,

You have problems with reading comprehension don't you? I never stated that I liked Saddam. I stated that the country was better off with him than it is now. We could also have saved 4000+ American lives. You never know, one of those soldiers, sailors, or airmen could have been the one to find a cure for cancer if they had not died over there. Or maybe its because none of them were related to you so you don't care.

Amen. If Bremer and Bush and Cheney/Halliburton had not disbanded the secular Iraqi Army in 2003, it is very likely that we would not have the lives of 4000+ American soldiers wasted trying to "win the peace" because of American greed and stupidity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Paul_Bremer

BS!!! That is a cop-out. Our current "elected" official is no different than the one you are blaming. He could have pulled us out of there long ago and let that country implode. He didn't, flat out. Everyone wants to blame Bush but when you get right down to it, our current president has accomplished nothing and has accumulated more debt in three years than Bush did in eight.

You democrats want to continually blame the republicans but the fact of the matter is dems have done nothing different and definitely no better. Before you spew your vile crap, perhaps you should make sure you are able to defend your statements with facts instead of making yourself look like an idiot.

How about handing dems a surplus. And see WHERE it gets spent. Speaking of IDIOTS,, please educate me and tell me WHY Bush wasted all that money in Iraq building Americas BIGGEST EMBASSY. AND THOSE BILLION DOLLAR MILITARY BASES... Do you see the difference in SPENDING MONEY IN THE USA and WASTING MONEY in a Foreign country ????

Location, location, location. What ever the game plan or business, location is everything. We are not privileged to the game book. Plan for the best, be prepared for the worse. There's reason for everything, action, re-action, the laws of physics apply to everything. It took years after Desert Storm for the events of 9/11 to happen. This mess isn't going to be over anytime soon. I'm a Realist, not a pessimist.

You are kidding right?

As long as they are killing each other, it is just fine with me. The more the merrier. I would like to see this same thing happening in Iran. We just need to keep out of it. If the worlds 1.2B muslims were so peaceful this would not be happening.

Jeff - Please don't forget that most of those thousands Saddam was killing were insurgents, intent on killing him and overthrowing his government. I would bet if armed American insurgents tried to take over our government in the US, they to would be killed by the US military.

Radical muslims have mentality that cannot adapt to todays world of civilized standards. All they know is cheat and unfairness to get attension and desires. Killing women and children and thinking its normal is an example.

brian-869346: Thats all the democrats know. Blame it on President Bush. The POS leader that these morons elected into office have nothing more to contribute. Hope they are happy with the change the POS promised.

Brian; Bush LIED to get congress to support him. Can't your little brain comprehend that?

Yes Brian - They both got their information from the Zionist cabal that was running the Pentagon and forming their own intelligence network, based on bulls--st. They got it fronm the Zionist media, AIPAC and the Mossad.

JERUSALEM (AP)
— Israeli intelligence overplayed the threat posed by Iraq and reinforced the
U.S. and British assessment that Saddam Hussein had large amounts of weapons of
mass destruction, a retired Israeli general said Thursday.

The Israeli assessment may have been colored by politics, including a desire to see
the Iraqi leader toppled, said Shlomo Brom, who was a senior Israeli military
intelligence officer and is now a researcher with Israel's top strategic think
tank.

Brom stopped short of accusing Israeli intelligence officials of intentionally
misleading Britain and the United States.

Brom told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday that "Israeli
intelligence was a full partner with the United States and Britain in
developing a false picture of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction
capability."

He said Israeli intelligence "badly overestimated the Iraqi threat to Israel
and reinforced the American and British belief that the weapons existed."

Brom said the Israeli assessment may have been influenced by politics. "Israel
has no reason to regret the outcome of the war in Iraq," he wrote, noting
Saddam was an implacable enemy.

Brom ended his 25-year military career in 1998. Career officers in Israel
traditionally maintain close ties with military colleagues after their
retirement.

Demetrious: With all due respect, you folks who are trying to put some smiley face on the Bush Administration with disinformation and using people's lack of knoledge to sell your propaganda: sell it somewhere else. Sadam was not going to get nuclear weapons without the nuclear community and nuclear industry knowing it. Nuclear products are produced only in large scale operations the size of a big military base or town. It takes mountains of raw materials and decades to get enough refined product for one bomb. Our satellites tell us everything going on in the world except for conspiracies of ten or less people, and our CIA assets generally pick up on them. Bush was just trying to save himself having been stupid enough to let 9/11 happen on his watch, and having been warned wholesale by multiple agencies. So he used his credibility capitol selling the WMD line to a scared populace reeling from his 9/11 fiasco. He is getting just what he deserves; infamy.

@ C.Moakler

Are you on drugs?

Sadam was not going to get nuclear weapons without the nuclear community and nuclear industry knowing it.

Where did you ever get the idea that Saddam was doing anything LEGAL??? Your statement there tells me you live in a bubble and no nothing about who and what he was.

Let me know when you find the path to putting a smiley face on our current administration so I can have a good laugh.

Seen any new videos of Osama lately ?? Now smile.

@C.Moakler 'disinformation'? Is it not fact that Iraq used WMDs against Iran, and also Iran used the same type of WMDs in the Iran-Iraq war? YES or NO donkey. Don't hee-haw about it! Is it not a fact that Saddam fired his scud missiles into Israel to provoke Israel into war? YES or NO donkey. Don't hee-haw about it! Is it not a fact that Iraq invaded Kuwait, and slaughtered thousands of peaceful people within a few days? YES or NO donkey. Don't hee-haw about it! Is it not a fact that the current Iraq military couldn't swat a fly even if they had a fly swatter? YES or NO donkey. Don't hee-haw about it! FACTS, FACTS, FACTS. 'Peoples lack of knowledge'? Well, you might like to reread the above to expand your 'knowledge'. .... Oh, as far as nuclear ballistic missiles go, Iran bought some off the blackmarket from Ukrainian traders late last summer. FACT. The Ukrainian government didn't announce that they had them missing for several months after the FACT. They also reassured us that the nuclear warheads had all been removed, MAYBE. So, Saddam could have simply bought them instead of building them! Grow up ...... with all 'due respect'!

@tn. The orders to go ahead with the defense departments Navy Seals plan was NOT given by Obama. The timeline is that he was busy campaigning in the midwest riding in the back of his magic bus. The only state executive with enough power in DC at time to give a go ahead with the execution was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Sure, Obama got back to DC in time to watch the video of Osama bin Laden being killed, but he NEVER gave the order to do so, but he will always accept the credit. Answer your cute 'smiley' face comment yet? Want more?

Iraq was a 'mess' to start with. The difference is now they don't have the military capability to attack other nations around them. Under Saddam they had a 10 year war with Iran in which both countries used WMD. Under Saddam his military invaded and slaughtered thousands of people in the peaceful country of Kuwait within a few days. Saddam fired scud missiles into Israel to goad Israel into a war and to prove he had a one strike ability if he ever got his hands on nukes. ..... Iraq can no longer attack other countries or provoke wars with other countries. Sure, Iraq is still a 'mess' but the 'mess' belongs in the hands of the Iraqis themselves.

well, really saddam didn't have much ability to attack other countries before we invaded them either. The first gulf war, sanctions, no fly zones, etc. pretty much contained him inside his borders too.

Krazy: You are dead on with your post. I'm going to add that one voice that could have slowed down or even stopped our charge into Iraq is now Secretary of State. She thinks she is going to be our Margaret Thatcher, but blind agression won't get her there. Thatcher may have been a hawk but she was correct about who she attacked. So much for rewarding bad advice and governance. The congress and the press had plenty of information pointing to Bush Cheney as liars, and Democrats need to purge the ranks of the supporters of Bush on Iraq. Clinton would have been president if she could have kept her balls in check back then.

Krazy' I'll repeat it for your little brain. Bush LIED to get congressional support.

Clinton would have been president if she could have kept her balls in check back then.

She probably has a set of her own too!!!

Where is the democrat apology for the latest cluster f*ck in office now?

Moakler - Don't forget the war was planned and sold by Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, a professor and a Jewish lawyer, along with the genius Donald ("I don't do quagmires") Rumsfeld. What should we have expected, a well run war, with great military decisions? Those jokers were all appointed by Cheney. The fool staffed the upper echelon of the Pentagon with Jews whose first loyalaty was to Israel. They were all friends and had worked for Sharon, some with dual citizenship.