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TEHRAN, Iran -- Tehran will retaliate against any attack by Israeli or American forces "on the same level," Iran's top leader said.
Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, speaking on state TV to mark the Iranian new year on Tuesday, repeated his claims that the country does not seek atomic weapons, but said all of Iran's conventional firepower was ready to respond to any attack.
"We do not have atomic weapons and we will not build one. But against an attack by enemies — to defend ourselves either against the U.S. or Zionist regime — we will attack them on the same level that they attack us," he said, using the term Iranian authorities often use for Israel.
Despite the hard-edged tone for most of the speech, there were hints of overtures toward America before a possible resumption of nuclear talks between Iran and world powers. He urged the U.S. to have a "respectful attitude" toward Iran — suggesting it could bring dividends.
Earlier this month, Khamenei gave a rare nod of approval to Washington after President Barack Obama said he favored diplomacy to resolve the nuclear dispute.
In an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain expressed the need to continue placing 'massive pressure' on Iran without resorting to military action.
In a video message for the Iranian new year, known as Nowruz, Obama tried to reach out to the Iranian people, saying there was "no reason for the United States and Iran to be divided from one another." But he denounced Iranian authorities for setting up an "electronic curtain" that keeps Iranians from making their voices heard with American and the West.
Obama slams Iran's 'electric curtain' amid 'Israel loves Iran' campaign
"Increasingly, the Iranian people are denied the basic freedom to access the information that they want," Obama said after the U.S. Treasury Department opened the way for American companies to export Internet communications software and other materials to Iran.
"Instead, the Iranian government jams satellite signals to shut down television and radio broadcasts. It censors the Internet to control what the Iranian people can see and say. The regime monitors computers and cell phones for the sole purpose of protecting its own power," Obama added.
At schools, in shops, and on the streets of big cities and small towns, daily life plays out in Iran.
The U.S. president has used Nowruz for outreach to ordinary Iranians in the past, but it's unclear how many people are reached because of widespread Internet firewalls and efforts to block broadcasts such as Farsi language programs of the BBC and Voice of America. Still, satellite dishes are common — although illegal — and outside channels reach many Iranian homes.
The two nations are at odds because the West and its allies fear Iran could use its uranium enrichment program to eventually develop material for nuclear warheads. Iran says it only seeks reactors for energy and medical research.
NYT: US 'war game' sees perils of Israeli strike against Iran
Obama has urged for more time to allow sanctions to cut deeper into Iran's economy, which has been hit by the latest pressures targeting oil exports and the ability to conduct international banking. Israeli officials have said there is no decision yet on whether to launch a military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, but analysts in both countries have become increasingly nervous about the risks of touching off a region-wide war.
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In response to tougher sanctions, Iran had threatened to try to close the strategic Strait of Hormuz at the mouth of the Gulf — the route for about a fifth of the world's oil. However, Iran's military has made no actual moves to blockade the shipping lanes, and Kuwait's ruler was quoted Tuesday as saying Iran has assured its Gulf neighbors that it will not attempt to disrupt tanker traffic.
US companies lose as sanctions strangle Iraq
"We have received assurances from Iran that it will not take this step," Sheik Sabah Al Ahmed Al Sabah was quoted by the official Kuwait News Agency as saying. The agency said he made the statement to the Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun during a four-day state visit to Japan.
Iran has faced decades of sanctions. The latest sanctions placed in recent months are far tougher however than previous ones and target Iran's banking sector and critical oil exports that provide around $75 billion, some 80 percent of the country's foreign revenue.
US: No Iran oil-import sanctions for Japan, 10 EU countries
The value of the rial has plummeted over the past year in part because of expanding sanctions.
With the rial sinking, inflation in Iran has soared, a trend that has been abetted by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's cost-cutting economic reforms that dropped generous food and fuel subsidies Iranians have enjoyed for decades.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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This is so going to happen. Anyone not blind can see it has been planned for years. This is what we call an End Game maneuver. Too bad it will not be as clean as either side expects and regular people will pay the price for the political puppets following their masters orders.
There are certainly factions here in this country, and in Israel, which have been lobbying publicly and privately for war with Iran. But if Bush had planned such a venture, the idea went up in smoke after Iraq proved not to be the easy venture his crazy advisers advised it would be.
I do not sense that Obama is bent on war with Iran. Certainly his actions over the past 3.5 years in office have been bent more at diplomatic and economic efforts than a military option.
So, it is not clear to me why you say it is an obvious truth that a war with Iran has been part of some master plan.
dman
I agree with you.
Problem is as I see it is this . There are two trigger happy jokers in the game. One is in Iran and the other is in Israel . My guess is one of them is going to loose it and the fight will be on. But it will be a much longer , wider and far bloodier war than anyone expects.
bob
And when Israel is getting a beat-down from her neighbors, the United States will be compelled to come to her aid - taking the battle to some place called the Plains of Megiddo?
And Bob, you don't consider Iran to be 'trigger happy' as well? After all, they supply many terrorists organizations around the globe with weapons, materials, training, and advisors. They conduct 'war games' in the gulf all the time; they 'provoke' other nations with their 'war talk'. I fully agree that a war with Iran would be ugly, messy, and not good for anyone. The other consideration is;, 'what if they are developing a Nuke'? What do you do after they have one; and do you really believe Iran won't use it against Isreal, or God forbid, give it to their terrorists buddies to use 'where' they want to'.
How long have we heard the same from North Korea? and yet here we still are. Iran has to save face, never to appear weak or their people might "revolt" as they have before. I have my doubts that they will act on many of their threats just because they couldn't afford or handle and all out war with any country and have any hope of winning.
For NY John
JERUSALEM - Despite saber-rattling from Jerusalem, Israeli officials now
agree with the U.S. assessment that Tehran has not yet decided on the actual
construction of a nuclear bomb, according to senior Israeli government and
defense figures.
Israeli intelligence officials, like other intelligence agencies worldwide,
estimate that once a decision to build a bomb is reached, it would take months
to upgrade the enrichment and months more to build a crude bomb - in all, a
year to 18 months.
Then, to fit a bomb to a Shahab-3 missile capable of striking Israel would
take Iran two years, Israeli defense officials say.
Iran cannot even begin, unless they kicked out the IAEA inspectors, wo are there to make sure Iran does not enrich beyong thje 20% required for medical isotopes. Lets cut all military aid to the war mongering Israeli leadership. Perhaps it is time for regime change in Israel. Israel has been claiming Iran would have a nuclear weapon since 1992 and they still have not begun in 2012.
Although not a fan of Israel, Iran or any of the Middle East countries this is not going to happen...
concern, please let all of us viners know which war that Israel lost? Duh-oh! There isn't one and it was never a one on one fight either. One (Israel) against many. READ SOME HISTORY!
LMAO Whoa, the pot calling the kettle black there? He's been busy at work trying to shut down our Internet here in America, trying to pass bills like SOPA and PIPA, which luckily failed, but then he did sign the ACTA into law...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement
Trying to pull the wool over our eyes again Obummers?
It will be in the interest of Israel and the US to ignore the mad Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
What nuclear weapons and the delivery systems they will have only their Allah knows?
Unfortunately, Israel has another mad man, Netanyaho to match these Ayatollahs!
If these mad people want to battle, let them do to their hearts content.
For a change, we should keep away from the battles between mad people!
Julie - Why do some people put goofy things down in writing so quickly, like "READ SOME HISTORY"?
When was the last "region wide war" Israel was involved in? They have been involved in brief wars with one or two factions, but NEVER involved in a "region wide war" being fought by multiple nations at the same time (regional).
Please, read some history on your own, and please, read the story before posting something so silly...
These phony perverted clerics have almost no support in the Muslim or Arab world.They have many more enemies than friends.And they know if they try anything funny their country will be devastated as Nazi Germny was because of their equally pyscho leader Hitler. This is like Hitler in 35-36 They can stilll be stopped...these Iranian blowhard terrorists.. and much easier than it took to defeat Hitler and his gang. The U.S NATO .Israel and other countries will givel them such knockout punches that they will never recover.And justifiably so to this terrorist regime that has held the world hostage for 33 years..They are paper tigers compared to the forces lined up against them and they will justifiably be attacked.And except for terrorists like hamas and hezbollah noone will come to their aid.Most countries will be secretly pleased or even openly cheering.!!Chau chau ayatollahs!!
In case the story was written from the wrong point of view, it is pretty clear the Iranians have readied their conventional weapons and provoke us (publicly) every chance they get, almost on a monthly basis. I think it's pretty clear who is trigger-happy in this scenario...we don't want to go to war, Israel doesn't want to go to war, but Iran would love to provoke an attack so that they can claim to be the victim. It's the same MO they've used for decades.
Concern,
Maybe you didn't read my post (1.7)?
I was referring to you statement (not anything in the story). Here's that quote of yours again...
Since you're attempting to predict the future, let's look to the past first. Has Israel ever had a "beat-down" since it's independence in 1947? No. So why do you think they're going to have a "beat-down" and by who in that region? Turkey is the only one that could give or even "beat-down" Israel in the region and they do combine military maneuvers together.
R U Kidding? How about the
I don't know what your definition of a "region wide war" war is but I'm sure the above 3 wars are consider regional wars by any historian.
Now I understand that you might be one of those individuals here on the vine that hates anything Israel does and I don't care. I don't care about Israel or any other Middle Eastern country. They are all a bunch of cry babies. However history is history and I didn't write it!
Now, can we agree to get back on subject?
Ralph... where Pray Tell did you get your news article? It's easy to write the name of a place in capital letters... let me try to answer my own question...
RALPH'S MIND
NJ john - what part of Bob's fourth sentence was unclear?
Bob - I half -agree with you. I do think that people overstate how eager both nations are to engage in a war. Israel just finds it difficult to accept a nuclear threat from a close neighbor who is always talking about erradicating Israel. I can understand their feeling, even if I don't always agree with their methods. Iran's government is trying to prop up their floundering support by manufacturing an external enemy, but only one which will not actually attack.
But, you are right. On either side there is the danger that somebody will lose their head, or loose a couple of missiles. Then the game is on, and we're all along fror the ride.
i dont get the mind set of the people of iran... is the crap coming from the leaders typical of the people? or is it just a sick man in charge? as an american i know that religion and politics dont mix, even though the basis of our laws are the commandments given to Moses...
iran seems to be making a gesture that could end this, if we handle it the right way. i heard once that saddam messaged bush the night before we invaded and offered to step down to avoid any blood shed, bush refused (i dont know if its true, and will not argue for or against it). should anything like that happen here i hope we take advantage of it.
with all the technology we have and the advanced weapons, i pray we dont ever have another reason to use them. war proves nothing more than who has the best, biggest and smartest. i also hope our current administration gives me another reason to be proud to be an american...
Archeim - Read this- I don't make up what I write. Is the Jerusalem Post a good enough source for you? Apparently MSNBC did not think the story was newsworthy. I guess they didn't want to embarrass the Zionists, who have been claiming with absolute certainty that Iran was building a nuclear bomb. They are not building a nuclear weapon.
http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=262275
US and Israeli intelligence agencies
mostly agree that Iran has not restarted its development of a nuclear bomb, the
New York Times reported on Saturday.
According to the report, the assessment among top US officials is that Iran has
not yet decided to pursue a nuclear weapon, a conclusion which was established
based on intelligence analyses.
Israel - while seeing an existential threat in Iran's possible pursuit of a
nuclear bomb - mostly agrees with those assessments, a US intelligence official
speaking on the condition of anonymity told the Times.
1992: Israeli
parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5
years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon – and that the threat
had to be "uprooted by an international front headed by the US."
1992:
Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres tells French TV that Iran was set to have
nuclear warheads by 1999. "Iran is the greatest threat and greatest
problem in the Middle East," Peres warned, "because it seeks the
nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious
militancy." --As anyone can plainly see, Israel has been lieing for decades about Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Ralph - i retract my previous snarky statement. You did as i asked, which was provide a source for your article. It was a recent article, from a source i find acceptable. I apologize for the snarky comment.
As for the article itself... my opinion is worth little. I assume it isnt easy to get spies in there anymore, i dont know what they are planning, and i dont know what they arent planning. I also know that on occasion various goverments do resort to using disinformation to lull the opposing side into a false sense of security.
I dont really know. Like most of the armchair quarterbacks that post here, i can only speculate. If in fact they are going for a nuclear weapon, then stuxnet may have set them back a bit, and a myriad of other things over the years.
As i said previously, Ralph, thank you for providing the source for your article. We dont agree on much (i'm pretty positive on that), but i appreciate you complying with my poorly (and rudely) written request.
Ninja edit: Excellent post dave!
Archeim - I am blown away by your apology.
Prior to the war in Iraq, I did extensive research on all the claims being made against Iraq, including the source of those claims. Most of the claims started with sentences that said, they almost certainly have this, and they might haven that and then they would describe the horrors of whatever the "this and that" they were referring to at the time. It was fear mongering at its finest.
I do not want another repeat of the Iraq war, which was sold using false intelligence. I post to educate people to look and see the source of claims against Iran, as well as the content of the claims. The fear mongering is going on again. Any fool should be able to see that Iran poses no threat to America and little threat to Israel, unless attacked by either one. Iran, like Iraq, has nor real navy, air force or sophisticated missiles.
As for misinformation, I will say to you that Israel is the king, when it comes to misinformation, starting with the claims that Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map, which has been repeated so often, people think it is true.
Ralph - I appreciate your previous post.
I'm not one dimensional. If i am proven wrong about something or i state something incorrectly, i have no problem eating some crow. Just because we may not agree often, doesnt mean that we arent able respectfully disagree.
I truly hope that both Iran and Israel are able to find a way to keep the peace and avert needless bloodshed. In our world's existance, we've seen enough.
Take Care :)
It is too bad these people cannot simply figure out how to live and let live. Iran, nukes aren't all they are cracked up to be. Pakistan has one and they are still the same old crummy country they were before. Israel, take it down a notch! Sure, Iran has been running their mouth plenty, but can you be the bigger person and walk away?
I am pretty sure global warming is from the hot air being expelled from rhetoric in the Middle East.
OMG! You're dead on!
All Middle East countries are like a bunch of Tom turkeys running around the pen with their chests all puffed out or more like a bunch of Kindergartners fighting over one toy.
Pakistan may be "the same old crummy country" in your opinion but their nukes prevent India from attacking them. Even USA openly admits that it can't invade Pakistan, a nuclear armed nation of 185 milliion. If Iran aquires the nukes today, that is an end to the Israeli hagemony in the region. Will Israel be free to terorize its neighbors as it does now? Surely not! Because Hizbullah and hammas will be boosted overnight. Once there is a nuclear deterence in the Middle East, Israel would have to make concessions for peace. These are the reasons that Israel seems so worried.
I wish that just one world leader would throw political correctness in the toilet where it belongs and send a message to the Ayatollah that won't need translation. Would you please just STFU.
When the USA gets done with Iran they won't even be able to make phone calls. If the USA attacks they will take out all of the 2 dozen nuclear sites and its utilities infrastructure. Who made that comment about "bombing them back to the stone age?". Keep yapping mullahs, we have your number! Mark Montgomery NYC, NY boboberg@nyc.rr.com
The world can do without another racist war.
For all these folks beating their war drums and talking smack about how we'd whip their a$$es... tell ya what... if this is what you believe, how about you go pick up a weapon and volunteer to be the first one in? Then you can put your proverbial money where your mouth is.
The world can do without another war of any kind.
It always cracks me up how people think that we can just going in and take out anyone we want. A war with Iran with not be quick and simple, it would be much more of a battle and cost than some of you think. @Mark, how are things in happy land by the way. Your disillusional views must make life fun and interesting.
@Mark : are you stupid to post your email on a public forum. If you are from NY , I must ask ... Is sept 11 PTSD making you crazy ?
Hey curry breath; you had your war and now there is India and Pakistan. You seikhs always carry a knife so what is your deal? India is the biggest gathering of garbage in the world. STFU. tiga?
Before war mongering on Iran, why don't you settle the problems in Afghanistan?
In Iraq, after accomplishing mission, likes of you left Iraq in a bloodier state and got the poor soldiers and economy bashed up and had to withdraw from Iraq with huge forces to protect withdrawing forces!
But the Iraq war made the Saudis, Kuwaiti and other Sunni nations richer to finance their Sunni Islamic extremist Salaffi and Wahhabi mosques all over the world including the US.
If your street is missing one, after Iran war there will be a Salaffi and Wahhabi mosque with al-Qaida coming nearer to your home!
Wow, Rocky Mountain Oyster Breath (NamVeteran).
Hate much?
Not really. British did that ..policy of divide and rule.
Most don't only baptized ones do..and that knife you see on my profile is to remind you that I play a lot of video games . LOL
Are you also another sufferer of PTSD from Vietnam..Did a grenade take a part of your brain out ? LOL
Military strike on iran" nuclear facilities can not solve the problem this will create more economy crisis, and unemployment worldwide, it"s advisable to go diplomatical, to avoid another iraq situation.
It's fine to try to find a 'diplomatic' solution! We've been trying this for years with what results. Iran continues to develop their Nuke capabilities. So where do you draw the line, because in my view (and Obama's), Iran must never get a Nuke!
Iran can easily buy nukes either from Pakistan or N. Korea if they have brains.
After a few years, Paki nukes will be available to whoever can steal them with Islam's flag!
Are John McCains going to do gate keeping all over the world or act as world policeman?
Economy will be shattered with another unnecessary Iraqi like wars!
"It's fine to try to find a 'diplomatic' solution! We've been trying this for years with what results."
Do you call what we've been doing trying a diplomatic solution. That's like a mafia boss sending thugs into your store to threaten you and calling that a "diplomatic solution". A diplomatic solutions would be to recognize their right to nuclear energy and come up with an mutual agreement on how to make sure it won't be used for military purposes.Remove all sanctions and reestablish relations.Then work towards a deal for a nuclear weapons free Middle East. Threats or attacks will,even if successful for a while,leave a trail of hatred and bitterness which will only lead to future trouble.
@ Mark - the same things were said when we went into Iraq....that has been a disaster. I just hope that nobody is dusting off the "Mission Accomplished" banner before any attack takes place...
The hot air is not only comming out of Iran, who started it?
Don't think Iran can retaliate at the "same level" to a nuclear attack unless there's something we don't know.
"Don't think Iran can retaliate at the "same level" to a nuclear attack unless there's something we don't know."
No one is at all worried about the US or Israel attacking with nuclear weapons.That's just a pipe dream of some posters. Were that to happen,the attackers would be outcast throughout the world. Every nation able to produce nukes would rush to do so.And those like Russia,China, and North Korea. Would plan on using them against us,out of fear,at the least disagreement that we had with them.
Soooo, does this mean they'll only retaliate against the "Zionists" if the Israelis preempt? Nah, the fanatics won't be able to control themselves; they'll just start shooting at everyone.
Why do we give these clowns so much attention? It's like the kid in the back of the classroom throwing paper airplanes so the teacher will look at them for a minute. Seriously?
"He urged the U.S. to have a "respectful attitude" toward Iran!!!"
Well stop burning our flag and chanting Death to America and maybe we will tone it down a little. You know it's a two way street Ali so you should understand that it's not a do as I say not as I do attitude but more on the lines of respect is only given to those who give it!!!
Oh and by the way if you think you can do the same to us that we can do to you I believe someone is lying to you Ali......
Peace Out from the ICBM that has your name on it :)
"Well stop burning our flag and chanting Death to America and maybe we will tone it down a little."
So how is their attitude to us any different than what I see everyday from Americans on these boards,against them. They only retaliate for our statements against them. How would we like it if they constantly called for regime change over here and offered aid to Americans to overthrow our government.If they supplied and funded militia groups here for attacks inside the US. We would be freaking out if they turned the tables on us like that.
Hey Dw - The US is crippling Iran's economy for no reason, other than to please our Jewish masters. Don't you think the people of Iran have a legitimate gripe. Do you think they should send us "thank you" notes? Here are a few of the reasons they have a gripe with us.
1) The British and the US in 1943 created
Iraq as a country whose borders were set up to insure conflict in the area. For
Iran, this meant that a large Shiite community became part of a Sunni-ruled
Iraq. Since Iran is the only majority Shiia country in the world, this was seen
as a specific slap in the face.
2) For three years the US and Britain forced
brutal and repressive Soviet rule on Iran. The Russians finally left in 1946
after having virtually looted the country. From 1947-1951 the country
floundered around with a chronically unstable constitutional monarchy
half-heartedly supported by the US and Britain who were only interested in oil
concessions.
3) Until 1953, there was a series of military
coups and counter-coups with the CIA actively involved in one side or another
for every one.
4) The the US, with Britain's blessing,
installed the Shah and a brutal and repressive autocracy backed up by the
Mossda-trained SAVAK. The people were brutalized and slaughtered by the
thousands, but the US got half of all the oil revenue, so they were very happy
with the Shah.
5) In the Iraq-Iran War, the US supplied Iraq
with military equipment and more importantly to the Iranians, the training and
equipment to make mustard gas and binary nerve gas (tabun) which was used
against the Iranians. We backed and supplied the very same Saddam that we later
hung.
6) The embassy hostage situation came about
because Iran wanted the Shah sent back to Iran to stand trial for crimes
against his own people. The US refused, protected him abroad, and finally
brought him the the US for permanent residency when he was found to have
cancer. This really outraged the Iranian people since only the US and British
governments among major governments actually supported the idea of not
returning the Shah to Iran.
7) As a candidate, Reagan agents (including
Rumsfeld) made promises of military spare parts and other aid to Iran if they
would hold the hostages until after the election. You would think this would
have made the Iranians like us at least a little. But instead they decided that
there were no conditions in which American politicians could be trusted because
Reagan was so willing to sell out his country and support two groups against
his country was supposedly opposed --- Iran and the Contras. They kept citing
the Persian version of "there is no honor among thieves" as why they
never trust American politicians.
8) Then there have been the embargos, the
constant bickering, the feckless backing of Israel against everyone, and most
importantly the continuous double standard of saying that it is okay for
Israel, a warlike country who has fought constantly with its neighbors, to have
nukes, but to say that Iranians, who have never attacked a neighbor, cannot
have them. No person with more than a 3rd grade intellect sees this as anything
except dangerous arrogance on the part of the US.
I got cheeseburgers!!!!
So if we bomb them with flowers, and smiley faced greeting cards, are they going to do the same to us?
The Iranian theocracy are survivalists. They would not do anything beyond their ubiquitous bluster because they know they could never win a war against the west. Even a sterilized war effort that nations currently engage in.
New generations of Iranians are far more moderate to a point of despising the current government. Eventually, the country will become more and more moderate and to take military steps at this point would only cause a myriad of other serious problems. The sanctions are having the desired effect.
Chip, under normal conditions, I would agree with you. Howver, since the Iranians are guided by 'religious zelots' who believe killing the unbelivers is their mission, and to die for the cause is their goal, you really believe you can negotiate with these kind of people?
NY John - Show us where Iranians are killing unbelievers and dieing for their causes. I have not read stories about Iranians doing suicide attacks. Iran has not started a war with another country in well over a hundred years. Iran does not take over another country's land and water resources, as Israel has done in Lebanon and the West Bank.
Iran has not attacked the US, as the Israeli did when they attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 and the US on 9/11, by bringing down the WTC s and Bldg 7, in controlled demolitions. Bldg 7 was not even hit, yet fell into its own footprint in 6.5 seconds. Experts agree that it had to be rigged. If one building was rigged, they all were rigged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&feature=fvwrel
HA!...you camel humpers wont have anything to retaliate with!....: ))))
You can't retaliate if you're dead.
Lets see your firecracker against a bloc of c-4.
What a joke. IF the U.S. "really" attacks them there is NO way they could retaliate in kind. That is stupid thinking at best.
So how would Iran retaliate? By throwing glass at the enemy? That's what sand turns into under conditions of extreme heat and pressure. Read between the lines.
So who believes these diaper headed sand monkeys, I sure as hell dont, and the ayotolla whomany take his diaper off his head and wipe his ass with it.
Bottom Line
This story is nothing more than hype and posturing by Iran. Trying to make them selves look bigger, and badder than they really are. Iran now feels like a caged animal and will say anything to get out of it's cage. Cooler heads must prevail . I personally don't trust Israel at this point. To many hot heads in their government at this time. A way out of this mess must be found soon as the sand in the hour glass is running out.
bob
Hard to retaliate when the are all dead.
this is laughable, they want to retaliate against US??? russia backs them, are these people REALY dumb enough to ensure not only their own destruction but everyone elses? im sure there come's a point where an ally country looks at the offender and goes "i don't feel like dieing for nothing today bro" and to the russians: we won the cold war!
on a side note: you beat us to the moon with a robot but we got a living person there AND we invented a pen for him to write with! can't top that! go ahead and fire away, we have the same big red button!
Better if nobody feels like they need to retaliate for any use of military force; us, the mullas or the Jewish state. There are always unintended consequences when folks get mad and go into a fight. This is especially true when the warmongers are politicans of any stripe.
For everybody that is crying for war, please proceed to your nearest recruiting station and sign up. You want your voice heard, go to the front. No sailor, soldier or marine wants to go to war. They are ready to defend this nation and will fight for their country. Iran is in the middle of the violence in the mid-east. They are actively arming and probably have troops on the ground in Syria wearing Syrian uniforms. They feed Hezbolla and Hamas extremist. The Iranians are going to take over Iraq and start the bloodiest war in the history of the mideast. That they are not trying to make a nuclear weapon or thousands of dirty bombs is a fact. Will they use the nuc, no they will give it to some illiterate muslim extremist and they will use it. Do the peopel of Iran want a better government and economy, of course they do. To get that they have to get rid of the present government. Look at the Syrians that want a better government, they are paying for it in blood. Without military help the Free Syrians have no chance against overwhelming air power and armored forces. A prolonged and costly conflict may achieve their goals, but they will absolutely hate the west, the UN, NATO and America for coming to their aid. Libya got air support and arms. That placed them on equal or superior strength against the government.
Obama can embrace his Islamic brothers and reach some sort of agreement with Iran that will temporarily ease gas prices and sabber rattling. It will not stop what the Iranians have begun. Iran needs a foothold in Syria and Lebanon so they can control the mideast once Iraq becomes part of their New Persian Empire. Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey will be in a fight for survivial. The mysterious nuc will go off then. Everybody will point fingers at the other, but that will not stop Israel from retaliating with a nuc on Iran. Hopefully Obama and his socialist will not be in office. I do not have a good suggestion for who should be ournew President, but Obama will cripple this country with his rendering the constitution uncontitutional, placing more anti-gun, anti-business, anti-christianity justices on the supreme court and taking away our Bill of Rights and over taxing the 85% of Americans that work for a living so the 15% that want his handouts can sit on their azzes and collect it. Socialism only works as long as you have people to take away from and give to those that don't deserve.
Unless Israel goes ahead and attacks Iran, Obama will just let what has been placed into action by the Iranians, the New Persian Empire, happen. We will enjoy a short period of prosperity, but it will be followed by a rapid decline. Keep an eye on this administrations Small Arms Safety treaty with the UN. Obama has already taken away our rights in the NDAA, now he has to get all the weapons in American hands away from us before he can really proceed with his one world plan.
Frogman, you sound like one of the spokepersons for the YELLOW ELELPHANTS. Why don't you go down to the recruitment office and sign up for several years? Or won't the people at the 101st Keyboard Group let you do that?
frogman - gas prices are high because of Israeli threats to Iran. In case you haven't been keeping up with the news, Iswrael has been threatening to take out iran's nuclear enrichment sites. You know, the ones monitored by the IAEA. Iran only promises to retaliate if attacked. I hope everyone agrees that is OK for the party which is attacked to defend themselves.
If Israel does launch an attack, what happens to the IAEA inspectors. Do they get killed in the Israeli attacks?
Somehow, I don't think Israel has the nuts to attack Iran. They want America to do it for them. It sisn't going to happen unless we get Republicans in office. They are the only ones dumb enough to start another war for Israel.