This is a classic example of .. If you can't play nice you don't get to play at all. What a bunch of simple minded animals. Seriously guys... Way to prove their point as to why they banned your team.

Because sitting there watching a group of men kick a ball up and down a field for 90 minutes, while only putting the ball in the net once or twice, is as boring as all get out. Just think how long you would sit and be enthralled by an NBA game in which nobody could put the ball through the net....or a NASCAR race in which everyone did 25 mph to avoid crashes.

Soccer is even worse than watching baseball.

At least, when the baseball is hit into the stands you get to run around and try to keep it.

In soccer, when the ball is hit into the stands, the fans have to give it back because nobody thought enough ahead to bring another ball....'

They are violent because they are Muslim. Life does not mean as much to them.

The melee sparked days of street protests. Most of the dead were members of Ultras Ahlawy, a group of avid politicized soccer fans who have long enmity with the police. Ultras has played a key role in the uprising against Hosni Mubarak.

Politicized soccer fans...interesting!

@CPO Sharkey

"...Soccer is even worse than watching baseball..."

Thar's why close to 1 billion (that's Billion with the B) sport fans watched the soccer world cup of 2006.

Now tell me again how many fans watched your "World Series" baseball tournament???

I would speculate that this isn't about soccer, about politics, about race or ethnicity, or about any other major concern that I have read on NV. The truth is, I have absolutely no idea what this is about!!!! What does one say about something like this; inexplicable!

And it happens here, too. I've seen images of US and Canadian fans turning over cars after their teams win or lose. Google 'sports fan beaten' and see how bad it gets right here.

Perhaps because of the fact that soccer happens to be a very intense and passionate game that captivates the minds of billions of people from Copenhagen to Cape Town, Moscow to Montevideo. Yes it is true that only one or two goals are scored in each game, but that is not from a lack of activity on the field, but rather from the difficulty of actually scoring it. This often leads to a situation of high nervousness and tension among fans watching their favorite teams play (often with a long history of contentious/controversial matches against the particular opposition) and when you combine this with dynamics of a group of people, you will get individuals who cannot control their emotions and will start something. It is not an issue of race, religion or nationality, but occurs all over the world.

Without reading the article just seeing the title on main page

"Deadly clashes erupt after soccer club is banned"

I knew it would be one of those wacko Middle East countries!

They have largely empty lives and try to fill them with the exploits of others on the soccer field. If their team is banned they have nothing but their own squalid existence. so, riot and murder seem reasonable.

The soccer riots are just a symptom of the illness that is afflicting Egypt. The population in Egypt is 80 million in 1970 the population was 33 million in 42 years they have more than doubled the number of mouths to feed. Egypt imports 40% of total food products and 60% of the wheat. Approximately 40% of Egyptians live on $2 a day.

Egyptians rely on butane cylinders for their cooking fuel. In recent days there has been a shortage butane cylinder which are being stolen and sold in the black market.

The small farmers were forced of their land by corrupt politicians. Therefore Egypt cannot grow more food.

http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsDetails/tabid/96/smid/414/ArticleID/149902/reftab/69/t/Gas-shortage-raises-anger-at-Egypt-govt/Default.aspx

The shortages at distribution centers, where a cylinder costs the equivalent of
about 50 cents, has forced many people to resort to the black market, where the
price soars to nearly $12.
Even though Egypt produces close to 48 billion
cubic meters of natural gas a year, it lacks the refineries to process the gas
into usable butane. For this, Egypt must import 2 million tons of butane at a
cost of $3 billion from countries like Algeria and Saudi Arabia.

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2011-02-11/commentary/30711842_1_food-prices-foreign-policy-farm-policy

Go back a little further in time in Egypt and the roots of the political crisis can be found with its 1992 land reform. Guided by what many say was U.S. and International Monetary Fund influence, the country’s small farmers who were “registered tenants” became subject to rent increases, in many cases triple what they had been paying.

As expected, these small farmers couldn’t afford the steep rent increases and were forced off their land. More than half of all Egyptians live in the countryside, and millions were forced into poverty. Moreover, Egypt itself became more reliant on imports.

Im convinced its the absence of women in almost all aspects of daily life that makes for a violent sausage party that is the most of middle east. It totally makes sense - not getting laid and constantly hanging out in large groups of all dudes, what else are you gonna do lol?

It happened because Islam breeds hatred and violence.

You know that comment is really uncalled for, the riot last month is not even the worst soccer riot in history. My husband is Egyptian and he is the most kind, respectful man i have ever met. I am 100% Christian and 100% American and i do not believe islam breeds hatred and violence, take a good look at all religions and their history. We are all at fault to horrible actions against out fellow human beings. Every religion has bad apples but you cannot say a entire religion is bad just because some ppl do bad things

sonar guy,

I've visited Egypt three times and they're a very passionate people. Next to Islam and perhaps family, soccer is King and it surely gets the blood boiling. Locals, in this case mostly men as pointed out, follow their favorite teams closely. A lot of testosterone abounds and because of poverty many folks are already on edge. Unfortunately, it's a bit of a recipe for this kind of thing.

As to Islam's role, I can't think of a connection but would welcome intelligent insight from that angle.

Another thing, Egyptians, as well as other mid-easterners, tend to be a bit conspiratorial-minded and sometimes become firmly convinced that behind the scenes scullduggery is at play. And for that matter , the believers of such aren't always off-base. Just the same rumors can quickly spread amongst a crowd causing unrest. But Egyptians are not callous and I'm sure this and other like incidents breaks many hearts.

During my visits to Egypt I saw so much of interest. I also made it a point to reach out to the people the best I could. I came away loving the land and the people and will gladly return some day. Regardless of Muslim or Christian, there were many kind folks who would have given me the shirt off their back.

I also met a few folks who didn't have much use for the west, and probably not for me either. But even then, they were willing to discuss and debate current issues. I'm sad for Egypt's troubles but will always be happy to call a number of Egyptians my friend. I know right now if I showed up I'd be welcomed with open arms. God bless them all, Muslim and Christian alike.

How dare Sonar use freedom of speech....

Yes, but British soccer fans are jiust as bad. On the A-3 highway in England, buses with soccer fans are banned from the restaurants

Islam is a curse to the world. MOST MUSLIMS ARE RADICALS. Just look in the news, EVERYDAY muslims are killing people. This is NOT a small minority. This is nothing but evil acting as a religion...............

@sonar guy

"It happened because Islam breeds hatred and violence."

Stupidiest comment....

You should look at christian England for heatred and violence... You should also read "among the thugs" by Bill Buford.. .A real eye opener.

If "Islam breeds violence" then why are their riots at soccer games in Ireland and England and Brazil and Germany?

Are the stands in Ireland and England and Brazil and Germany filled with Muslim soccer fans?

'If "Islam breeds violence" then why are their riots at soccer games in Ireland and England and Brazil and Germany?

Are the stands in Ireland and England and Brazil and Germany filled with Muslim soccer fans?'

And how come US and Canadian fans burn cars and go on rampages when their teams win or lose playoffs?

Dave, how is it that you make the claim that "MOST MUSLIMS ARE RADICALS?" Surely you are enlightened enough to realize truth is often different, or at least deeper, than what can be garnered from a new report.

I've traveled to several mid-east countries and most of the people I met, be they Muslim, Christian, or Jewish were nice as pie. In fact, many Muslims I've conversed with would consider it good fortune if ever given the chance to travel to America, and that's not for the chance to peform some kind of treachery or plot future terrorist acts. Rather, many Muslims have an honest interest in America because they've heard about things like America's great natural beauty and wonderful cities. I think some Muslims also want to see what exactly is the reality of America, which most have only seen through a Hollywood movie. Pretty natural behaviour if you ask me. Now, I acknowledge there's no shortage of evil-dooers in the Islamic world and these miscreants will obviously go to great lengths to destroy our lifes and lifestyle. Nonetheless, these thugs, although granted it doesn't take many, are not the majority, rather they are the minority. Really, the priority of most Muslims is putting bread on the table and raising a family, hardly radical concepts.

You've also got to remember us Christians haven't exactly had a history of saintly activities. In the name of Chrisitianity we've spilled more than just a little blood, and some of that continues to this day. I'll certainly concede Christian terrorism is kind of a blip when compared to the terrorism rising from the Islamic world, but just remember there was a time when the actions of Christians were more than unkind, and today some of the statements by Christians, often by politicians, are downright mean-spirited.

I do want to note I fully advocate strong and continued vigilance for our nation's security as well as citizen's abroad because the hard truth is many Muslims do indeed wish the absolute worst for the west and continue to plot henious acts aimed at us. I just wish folks like yourself would choose to be better informed than claiming radicals, which I assume is synonomous with terrorists or their backers, make up the majority of Muslims. For one thing, intelligent decisions concerning our true enemies and how to deal with potential threats are not aided by unfounded rhetoric. We must be discerning and wise, traits which will aid both U.S. diplomatic and military intelligence goals.

Please take care and best regards,

Larry MacKinnon

Muslims killing Muslims, STILL going strong since the 7th century!

First I thank Larry for his lecture 2nd I will give Dave some information i he is knwelegable of what is going in the world , what happened in Egypt is not normal I'm soccer fan from Egypt never happened before also it happened in Itali , england Holland also in South America many times that it doesn"t mean Catholic in Itali or South America are Terrorists, and don't forget that Egypt in tough times now after 60 years of oppression from the melitary rules Dave you have to get the right news from many sources instead for watching FOX NEWS the very Extrimist TV in the World my best wishes to all.

DR. ELSAYED HAMOUDA

^^ Not sure what's more upsetting, the fact that you're a Dr. or the fact you mispelled your name. C'mon, really??

Larry Mackinnon & Esayed Hamouda:

I'm very happy that for you that you had the opportunity to visit Egypt on multiple occasions and report back on how nice the Egyptians all are.

I'd love to do the same. Except I'm Jewish. And regarding Middle Eastern states not named Israel, I'm either banned from entering, or would have to hide my religious beliefs for my own safety. So please stop it with your BS about Egypt being such a wonderful country. Fact is, countries dominated in population by Christians allow freedom of religion. Islamic countries do not. It's a basic fact that is impossible to deny. I don't care how it was 200 years ago.

I hate when people say stupid things like "I've been to Egypt or Saudi Arabia or Qatar, and they're all nice people. We just don't understand them". F**k that. When I'm not even allowed into the country because of my beliefs, you don't have to lecture me about how the media falsely portrays the actions of a few to represent the whole.

apples oranges

Egypt was once the leading civilization in the world , sciences , medicine , literature etc and in the 6 th century someone wrote a book based on conquest , subjugation and murder and they have been sliding backwards ever since !

The USA has been moving forward for just 2 centuries but has surpassed any country in history UNTIL the politicians started ignoring the Constitution !

Selective law enforcement and crony capitalism is destroying this country !

If you "think" that they will form a "democratic nation" then you've been smoking too much. They'll end up with the most radical "mullahs" in charge and an insane government like that of Iran.

How many of those that murdered Christians and burned christian churches have been caught or prosecuted-- Answer-- ZERO. Do notice that the "police" stand-by and let the violence occur unless it threatens something the radical leftists want to save.

Sadly the Koran does NOT teach tolerance and peaceful co-existence; it does advocate killing those that refuse to convert to its "religion" and killing those that would leave that "religion".

If you "played" one season, then you weren't in an professional league. the rest of your remarks stink of your ignorance of the game, the rules and the truth.

All stupid people are Republicans!

"Jimee"; Try looking in a mirror for the view of someone TRULY and deeply Ignorant and too stupid to realize it. Only the ignorant would have put Obama with zero experience in the White House.

All homosexual people are Democrats Jimee

So maybe Mubarak isn't looking so bad after all...lol.

Mubarak really wasn't bad. That's why this Arab or Muslim or whatever brotherhood is out to kill him and his family. And these Egyptians can't play the game anyway; most fans should riot unless they get their admission back.

Coptic,

Ultras supported the removal of the regime? Right.

Than why is the current goverment punishing them, I thought they were the hero's, for the lack of a better word?

MRZ, the January revolution was started by idealist youth and was supported from the beginning by the Ultras. The current rulers of Egypt were opportunist who took advantage of the revolution and the Ultras did not accept this result and continued to oppose the Government.

An example of this opposition was that just before the massacre in Port Said, one of Al Ahly's Ultras, a College student BTW, was killed in anti-Government demonstration. Then, Al Ahly's Ultras staged a great demonstration in commemoration of their martyr and against the Government and many believe that what happened in Port Said was a punishment to the Ultras for their defiance. BTW here is a recording of Al Ahly's Ultras

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=b8kQUn4Pcjg#t=7s

i agree with you my friend coptic christian, many people don't know what is really happening in middle east, thank you again.

coptic muslim- means egyptian muslim

Thank you my friend, I used to be an Ahlawy fan before leaving Egypt, I stopped following this team and became a fan of local American teams. So I was pleasantly surprised by this recent development, namely the Ultras, they are definitely playing a great role as a popular movement, or what we may call "a band of brothers". What happened in Port Said and what continues to happen is a travesty of justice, I hope that the real criminals behind these massacres are brought to justice.

This is another Al Ahly's Ultras song criticizing the Egyptian policemen, saying that they could barely make it to college but through connections made it to the Police College and now they are taking the fun out of the Ultras life. You can use Google translate to get the translation of the paragraph under the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txtasyi7uLQ&feature=related

And if things don't go well, time for the Crosley Tenders, yes mate?

Sorry "steve the dog man"; you have no idea what you are talking about and seem to be suffering from a serious physical condition; Recto-cranial insertion". Violence at high school soccer matches is RARE and any violence on the field is handled immediately by the Center referee with those involved ejected and usually banned from future play for up to eight ( 8 ) weeks by the state authority.

The truth is, there are MORE violent incidents at High School Football Matches and Basketball games than soccer matches.

Now do go and try to learn something before spouting nonsense.

Another that spouts from pure ignorance. How many riots have you seen AFTER a professional soccer match in this country? How about after a championship match? Can you say ZERO ?

How many riots did you see after the World Cup Soccer Games were played here in the USA?-- Once again, Can you say --ZERO

Well, How about after the World Cup Matches when they were played in the USA?-- Once again can you say ZERO ?

Now go check out Baseball championships, Football championships, Basketball championships, Hockey championships; No matter IF your team wins or loses there are riots, looting, and destruction of property by the Fans.

Now go spout your brand of ignorance else where.