Obama tells US troops at Korean DMZ: 'You guys are at freedom's frontier'

President Obama paid his first visit to the tense zone separating North and South Korea amid new nuclear tensions. NNBC's Kristen Welker reports.

SEOUL -- President Barack Obama was greeted with cheers from U.S. troops as he visited the dining hall at Camp Bonifas at the start of his tour of the Demilitarized Zone on the Korean peninsula and told them that they were protecting "freedom's frontier."

Obama talked about how proud he was of the troops and joked about the NCAA basketball tournament. While, the president has visited the Republic of Korea twice before, this was his first time observing the 38th parallel and members of North Korea’s military.


At Camp Bonifas, Obama told U.S. troops that they are part of a "long line" of soldiers who have enabled South Korea to prosper. "You guys are at freedom's frontier," he said.

While at the DMZ, the president spoke to South Korean troops, then went to Observation Post Ouellette, the closest post overlooking the demarcation line on the most heavily guarded border in the world.

The observation post is about 25 miles northwest of Seoul inside the DMZ and just 100 yards from demarcation line. The North Korean army is visible from this observation post and it was expected that the North Koreans would jam cell phone signals while the president was visiting the area.

In advance of the trip, White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes said that the president’s visit to the DMZ “sends a clear message that the United States is committed to the security of our ally and that the commander in chief stands with those 28,000 Americans that are serving on the Korean peninsula.”

Jewel Samad / AFP - Getty Images

President Barack Obama greets US troops at Camp Bonifas in Paju during a visit to the Demilitarized Zone on the border between North and South Korea on Sunday.

The United States has more than 28,000 troops in South Korea, a legacy of the Korean War six decades ago. Camp Bonifas was renamed in 1986 in honor of US Army Capt. Arthur Bonifas, who was killed by North Korean soldiers in a 1976 ax attack.

Every president since President Ronald Reagan has visited the DMZ. 

The president’s visit comes a day before he is set to participate in the second international Nuclear Security Summit.

During his trip to South Korea for a summit to discuss keeping nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists, President Obama will visit the heavily guarded area along the North Korean border. NBC's Kristen Welker reports.

While the subject of North Korea is not officially on the list of topics for the summit, the North's presence looms large because of the announcement that it is planning to test a long-range rocket in April.

There were some indications that North Korea was going to suspend some of its nuclear activities. But then the North Koreans announced a satellite launch in April that, according to Rhodes, “can also serve, frankly, as a ballistic missile test as well.” Obama is expected to call upon Chinese President Hu Jintao to urge North Korea to back away from the planned launch.

NBC News' Shawna Thomas reported from Seoul, South Korea. NBC News' Alicia Jennings and Kristen Welker reported from Camp Bonifas.

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Comment author avatarjustoneguyRestored

This from a President bent like anything to take away freedoms from us and spending tax money like there's no end.

Hopefully the Supreme Court will rule that NO AMERICAN 'reports' to the Federal Government!!!

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#1 - Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:31 PM EDT

He hasn't tried to take away a single freedom, what are you even ranting about.

Name some, please. Seriously?

  • 51 votes
#1.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

You mean controlling women on what they can't and can do or telling people they can't marry someone they like are true freedom?

I am sorry, but your actions are much louder than any thing else. What next? Religious based government, may as well move to Middle East since you would fit really well there.

  • 23 votes
#1.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

He is safer there, than he would be on almost any stretch of our southern border

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#1.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:34 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRobert-655384Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Your mind is brainwashed by the religious zealots in this country.

  • 13 votes
#1.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:47 AM EDT

@Mr.PheaNiques-0000001

Excellent point. We appear to be permanently committed to defending the boders of foreign countries while the security of our own remains spotty at best. Border Patrol agents are treated like dirt.

  • 18 votes
#1.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:48 AM EDT
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Obummer should not be visiting South Korea making new free trade agreements costing thousands of American jobs. He should not be visiting the DMZ giving credibility to North Korea.

Obummer should not be giving food to North Korea as there are bridges that China can send all the food to North Korea it needs.

Actually there should be no talks with North Korea. Let them wither on the vine. They are not going to attack anyone. One bomb and North Korea is cinders with nuclear winds blowing over China.

The U.S. should pull out 100% of South Korea and let Australia, Indonesia, Japan and New Zealand handle the problems in their region of the world. Without the U.S. to threaten North Korea would dry up and blow away. Let it wither on the VINE!

  • 9 votes
#1.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:52 AM EDT

Under his presidency many states such as New York was able to pass gay marriage bill. But, I guess "not" allowing gays to be married is the freedom he is taking away.

@dictionary

I see you name all the places where our troops are relatively safe to pull out. But, you did not mention a peep about the place where they are the least safest i.e. Afghanistan.

  • 7 votes
#1.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:57 AM EDT

"Frontier of freedom"

Sounds like something Bush or Obama's hero, Ronald Reagan, would have said.

Whatever is happening in Afghanistan you can be sure it has nothing to do with "freedom" and a lot to do with empire and MONEY (as in Oil and minerals, influence, conflict with future rivals like China, etc).

Some choice we have this fall.

Unless we tell them all, Democrats and Republicans, to go take a flying @!$%# at the moon.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:00 AM EDT

Phenomenal112 It all depends on how you want to change the meaning of many good olde English words such as marriage, gay and homophobia. They all have a legitimate English meaning. Now a few people what those definitions changed.

I prefer the definition and use such as they enjoyed a gay and carefree life when they were young.

That is impossible to say now.

  • 4 votes
#1.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:03 AM EDT

"He hasn't tried to take away a single freedom, what are you even ranting about. Name some, please. Seriously?"

The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution reads: "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

President Obama's ludicrous suggestion that due process means that the executive branch has the unilateral and unchecked authority to mark citizens for death is a very real infringement on our freedoms.

(For what it's worth: I voted for him in 2008. Fat chance of that happening in 2012,

  • 11 votes
#1.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:05 AM EDT

"Air Force One" The patch on is jacket says. Pharaoh's Ark.

I like the touch of the leather flight jacket as if he (or Bush or Clinton) really shared the danger in being on "freedom's frontier". What a laugh.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:08 AM EDT

@dictionary

Listen when I said: "gays getting married" I meant homosexuals having the same rights and privileges as married couples. Call it marriage or union, or whatever, point being is that their union was not accepted by our government and they were not having the same benefits of a married couple. They still don't in many states. The meanings if words might change, but, denying people rights is completely different. Our government is so cruel that they were forced to keep thier sexual orientation hidden in the military. "Don't ask don't tell" was abolished, and if that is not freedom to be yourself without the interference of our government, I don't know what is.

@Levtolstoy2

Get used to it, during war time, our constitutional rights are limited. If you are hanging out with a few terrorists in Yemen while being affiliated with Al-Quida, you cannot expect the same rights if you were in America. Heck I would not want any of our troops being injured or killed trying to bring Allalacki back alive when a predator missile could just take him out.

  • 8 votes
#1.12 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:22 AM EDT

Every time I see someone refer to President Obama as "Obummer," or some equally obnoxious disrespectful name, I put a penny in a jar. On November 6th, depending on the price of gas, if I have enough pennies to pay my gas to drive to my polling place I'll drive there and cast my vote for President Obama. If there aren't enough pennies in the jar to pay for my gas, I'll stay home. Guess what it looks like I'll be doing in November? Hint: I had to go to the bank to get more pennies.

  • 20 votes
#1.13 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:33 AM EDT

I sure wouldn't like to see our police injured or killed trying to arrest a drug dealer, when a S.W.A.T. sniper could just take him out...I like the way you think

  • 1 vote
#1.14 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:36 AM EDT

I think what Obama was really doing was reaching across the border and saying "welcome, I'm what we've been waiting for, you're one of us."

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:10 AM EDT

Here we are thousands of miles away protecting another foreign country's border better than we protect our own! I wonder if South Korea has signs 60 to 80 miles inside its border, warning citizens of dangerous armed criminals, etc. from the north frequent those areas? I don't care if Obama has done more on the border than any previous president (except Eisenhower), it's definitely not enough!

  • 8 votes
#1.16 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:16 AM EDT

Obummer should not be visiting South Korea making new free trade agreements costing thousands of American jobs. He should not be visiting the DMZ giving credibility to North Korea.

oh it's only something that every US president has done since the Korean war. if he didn't you would be whining about that.

  • 12 votes
#1.17 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:32 AM EDT

I'm guessing the most of you only read and listen to MSNBC. I suggest you Google restrictive small farm regulations. Obama and his ilk are trying to destroy the small farm so that the government controlls what you eat and who you buy it from.

  • 8 votes
#1.18 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:47 AM EDT

Tell you what, name ONE freedom, JOG...

  • 5 votes
#1.19 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:12 AM EDT

I see the OHS (Obama Hate Society) is out in full force today with their usual list of perceived-slights-against-all-things-American, conspiracy theories based on drivel Glenn Beck scribbled on his chalkboard, and delusional rants about something that somebody they knew got in an email once upon a time. Give it a rest guys - he's just politician you didn't vote for and don't particularly care for - not the antii-Christ - although I have observed several of you disputing that too.

And larry-2037452; as someone from a small farm who still owns farmland, currently under cultivation by some family members ... in a town getting smaller by the day ... let me buy you a free clue: Obama is not the problem keeping them up at night but rather the corporate farms / agribusiness giants (look up who supports them if you're so anxious to use your search engine), who are swallowing family farms at every turn. This makes it extremely difficult for them to rent or purchase property and resources in order to pass it on, let alone allow another family to get into farming and make a go of it.

  • 13 votes
#1.20 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:31 AM EDT

Dave,

You could wake if out of pennies. Barring that, a call to the local democrat headquarters would get you a ride to the polls. Every vote counts. Do I plan to vote for Obama? Undecided, but that is changed from the previous hell no. Definitely not Ron Paul, and thanks to Santorum I may just do what I can to not have to pay the movers to change out furniture in the white house.

I think we would all be better off to send home a bunch of senators and congressmen. Either party.

  • 2 votes
#1.21 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:46 AM EDT

It is good the article said all the Presidents since Reagan have visited the DMZ, otherwise, I would have wondered. But then again, we've not had such an Pro Liberal Media as we have now. No matter how biased the main stream media becomes, they cannot hide the truth of the damage caused by the President and be those who have supported him these last 4 years. Voting Obama from office is now the primary goal of all pro-American voters. It is the only solution.

  • 1 vote
#1.22 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:08 AM EDT

I can't wait to take my country back from the fascist/corporate/ right wing nut jobs in Congress.

Obama 2012! It is the ONLY solution.

  • 7 votes
#1.23 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

Unfortunately Captain Kickass won't even notice the way a border should be protected. It will escape his attention that borders need to be secured to prevent usurpers from entering into a country. I can't understand why this country will not protect the borders from illegal immigrants.

How can any honest American not want our borders secured?

  • 2 votes
#1.24 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

@Capt Tripps

NDAA does that ring a bell?

  • 1 vote
#1.25 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

@Dave2550157 you would be better off taking those pennies and selling them for scrap copper ,a pre 1984 penny is worth 2.5 cents each as scrap thanks to the US economy tanking out ! why bother with the corrurpt banks,the scrap dealer pays a way better"intrest rate"

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

You mean the Defense budget act, where the Obama Admin specifically affirmed that any provisions regarding detention of person's accused of terrorism related activities would not supplant the protections American citizens are granted under the Constitution? The one written by Congress? The one he threatened to veto until an amendment was added reaffirming laws protecting American citizens and residents?

What about it.

Personally I've been against indefinite detention for enemy combatants since it was enacted in 2001. Which is why I've always supported closing GITMO and trying suspects in American or military courts, immediately. I think our laws should apply evenly to anyone under our jurisdiction, but that argument is a decade old. To try and frame it as Obama removing our rights is either ignorant or intentionally disingenuous.

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

Its not that Obama has been successful at taking away any rights, its what Obama and Hillery are attempting to take away, but have not yet been successful at doing. subscribe to the Obama alert and see for yourself. Its not about the man its about the team he is on.

Why is it that our Government always helps N Korea and they turn around and piss on us. how many times have they agreed to stop their Nuclear program in exchange for food and then after receiving food they turn around and start their program up again. how stupid can our gov be? let China feed them there right next door.

    #1.28 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

    As Chris Mathews said in "Man of the Year"...."The free world will now be led by a comedian." Perhaps Robin Williams should be elected. What could it hurt?

    • 1 vote
    #1.29 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

    DunkinH and the other 14 +

    EVERY SOLDIER SERVING NORTH OF SOUL KNOWS THAT IF THE N. KOREANS ATTACK....THEY WILL DIE.

    That is what that border has been for every American and ROK soldier since 1953........and it was that way in 1974 and 1975 when I was there.

    Let me add this, the South Korean people respect and support us......it took time and patience on the part of several administrations....but ROK is truly a Republic with a democratic govt.

    That is the one country we need to continue to support....to many American's have given thier lives since WWII in what we can say has worked.

    • 1 vote
    #1.30 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

    Bluelake

    I can't wait to take my country back from the fascist/corporate/ right wing nut jobs in Congress.

    Obama 2012! It is the ONLY solution.

    Obama is the only solution for 4 more years of recession and plunging America into bankruptcy! Can't understand why you would want that for America?

    • 1 vote
    #1.31 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

    Lev - Who will you vote for?

      #1.32 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

      I didn't vote for him the first time I sure won't this time. I would love to have that leather Air Force One jacket I'd give him a $1,000 for it.

        #1.33 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

        Obama is the only solution for 4 more years of recession and plunging America into bankruptcy!

        and the so-called "tax plans" of all of the Republican candidates will thtrow the US even faster into bankruptcy according to the OMB. but it will help the rich get even richer while the rest starve

        • 1 vote
        #1.34 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:33 PM EDT
        Reply

        I think Obama was talking about North Korea. He admires the power a dictator has like most liberals do.

        They believe in the "benevolent dictator" model of government. I'm quite certain the Kim family thinks that is what they are.

        No religion, no dissent, and complete government rule and regulation over all aspects of society is Obama's dream come true!

        • 19 votes
        Reply#2 - Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

        You got me there. I do think I would make a benevolent dictator. Half right. We love dissent, its cool to us. Also, we like religion for many reasons, even though it isn't used as a tool for controling our votes as frequently. We like balanced rules & regulations, don't exaggerate.

        • 2 votes
        #2.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:16 AM EDT

        I think you are an idiot. If anything, the religious people are hell bent on doing that for centuries. History has shown us over and over and over again how this happened.

        I guess for someone like you who never have education or any history knowledge, it is so easy to tell you what they want to tell.

        • 12 votes
        #2.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:28 AM EDT

        Really William?

        I always felt "conservatives" like you admired dictators more than liberals do. I mean, think of it: having the power to silence any political opposition and establish a permanent, one-party system? You guys on the Newsvine are calling for that crap 24/7!

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        #2.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:38 AM EDT

        im in this picture smiling on the right

        • 5 votes
        #2.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:48 AM EDT

        William I think you have been living in the wild wild west too long.

        • 4 votes
        #2.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:06 AM EDT

        and yet you want to dictate to me

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        #2.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:02 AM EDT

        The responses to my comment and the subsequent whining leading to its collapse merely proves I am right.

        If someone calls themselves "liberal" and they do not believe in the "benevolent dictator" model they probably aren't your standard academic liberal type and probably aren't paying attention to what your intellectual leaders believe.

        Conservatives don't admire dictators, bubbs. They also don't believe in a one party system....democrats do. Watch and see them manipulate society by utilizing class warfare and divisive politics. It is why 90% of blacks vote democrat. You really need to educate yourself on what "conservatives" are and what their leaders believe.

        I do want to dictate to you, Grandpa. I want to dictate freedom upon you and you want to dictate an oppressive government on me. I'll stand firm in my belief that I'm right and you're wrong. Do you enjoy cashing your welfare checks earned on the backs of others including the working poor?

        • 2 votes
        #2.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

        They also don't believe in a one party system....democrats do.

        Prove it.

        Do you enjoy cashing your welfare checks earned on the backs of others including the working poor?

        Give it a rest. That's almost as pathetic as the birther movement. Anyone with even the slightest amount of brain matter knows that most people on welfare don't vote.

        • 3 votes
        #2.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:30 AM EDT

        Sure they do...they vote dem to keep those checks coming.

          #2.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

          Are you telling me only democrat use welfare? You may want to crawl out of that cave and look at reality.

            #2.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

            Conservatives don't admire dictators, bubbs. They also don't believe in a one party system....democrats do.

            Like Tony said, prove it.

            Watch and see them manipulate society by utilizing class warfare and divisive politics.

            Oooh puh-lease! Conservative politicians are constantly taking verbal potshots at the people of New York, California, Washington state, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and every other U.S. state with an ocean view because they're apparently all "Elitists" and not part of the "Real America." Doesn't matter how hard you work, or how honest or god-fearing you are: in the eyes of your leaders, if you can hear the ocean from your house, you're scum. But no, that's not divisive at all when this rhetoric comes from a Republican...

            You really need to educate yourself on what "conservatives" are and what their leaders believe.

            No need, William. You've shown me all I need to know.

              #2.11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:09 PM EDT
              Reply

              I don't know about "freedom frontier." It is little over the top. NK got issues that they need settled and SK and US have issues that needed to be settled. There is no holy, godlike, over the top, good vs evil thing happening between NK and SK. One is communist, other is liberal and democratic. It is a political issue and it is not a good vs. evil issue at this point.

              NK go paranoid because they have been invaded by the Japanese, Mongols, Chinese, Russians, Qing during their history and became paranoid. Same with China. It is in their history.

              • 7 votes
              #3 - Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

              North Korea and South's Korea history is the same up until one decided to take the communist route because of Russia jumping into the war against Japan at the closing of WW II resulting in the division of Korea.

              It might not be good vs. evil, but it should be right vs. wrong and North Korea is most certainly wrong. Any country that puts multiple generations of a family in a gulag as punishment for petty offenses is a country that is not to be respected.

              Ever see the satellite map showing North Korea basically living in darkness? Their people would starve to death if not for the food aid provided by their mortal enemies.

              • 34 votes
              #3.1 - Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

              Nope, not over the top, it is the simple reality. You are so used to the freedom you enjoy that you can't even imagine how it is to live in a country like North Korea, ruled by a dictator. They have no freedom whatsoever there, no hope for a better life. President Obama's comment was right on.

              • 27 votes
              #3.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:23 AM EDT

              WilliamJenkins_III To be accurate North Korea, nor Russia nor China ever were communistic. They were/are state dictatorships.

              Communism is a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, revolutionary and stateless socialist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production.

              I can guarantee you today that the residents of North Korea do not have common ownership of the means of production and do not share equally in the fruits of the labor of the masses.

              The only place that Communism works is on the communes of Israel which are set up with permission of the government and the original members of the commune share in the benefits derived from the labors. They choose who run the commune, what the commune produces, down to who are the babysitters and janitors. Everything stays with the commune when you leave except what you personally own and the money you earned. The housing, cars, means of production stays with the commune.

              • 12 votes
              #3.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:28 AM EDT
              Comment author avatarArchStantonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Wow, impressive, according to the story he goes from "Freedom's Frontier" to the Korean Demilatarized Zone to wag his imperial weenie at Dr. Evil in the Forbidden Kingdom across the barbed wire boarder.

              Forbidden Kingdom that is until Dr. Evil opens up sweat shops in N. Korea with cheaper and more exploited slaves than China that Wall Street and Corporate America can make billions of $$ off of, then it will get Most Favored Nation Trade Status.

              But he didn't have to go to Afghanistan and make himself look like an idiot and a fraud traipsing around in a leather flight jacket with an Air Force One, patch on it (Air Force One= New Pharaoh's Ark).

              Here's the real frontier of freedom: Debt slavery or freedom for millions of young people, and I bet he doesn't do a thing about it...


              US student debt surpasses $1 trillion

              By David Walsh

              24 March 2012

              According to a federal government agency, student loan debt in the US surpassed 1 trillion dollars "several months ago." The finding, reported by a spokesman for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) to a banking conference in Austin, Texas on Wednesday, is "much larger" (in his words) than other recent estimates.

              The Federal Reserve Bank of New York issued a study in early March suggesting that the total student debt had reached $870 billion. The new figure is 16 percent higher than that estimate. This staggering amount is greater than the total owed by Americans on their credit cards or auto loans.

              The CFPB announcement, which signifies that a considerable portion of the younger generation will be condemned to decades of debt, will not create a ripple within the American political and media establishment.

              Leading newspaper editors and television pundits, as well as Democratic and Republican politicians, are universally agreed that the full cost of the economic crisis must be borne by the working population, whatever the consequences. Neither Barack Obama nor any of his Republican rivals will do anything about the deepening scandal of student debt…

              ….Total student loan debt has grown by 511 percent, or more, over the past dozen years. In the first quarter of 1999, a mere $90 billion in student loans were outstanding. That figure had soared to $550 billion in the second quarter of 2011, which may turn out to have been an underestimation. Between 1999-2000 and 2007-2008, private student loan borrowing grew four times, from $4.5 billion to $21.8 billion per year. The College Board reports that, adjusted for inflation, students are borrowing twice what they did a decade ago.

              According to the Project on Student Debt, some two-thirds of college seniors graduated with loans in 2010. Those graduates also faced the highest official unemployment rate for young college graduates in recent history, 9.1 percent. The Economic Policy Institute estimates that between 2000 and 2011, wages for college-educated men and women entering the workforce saw their inflation-adjusted earnings fall 5.2 percent and 4.4 percent, respectively.

              A recent study by NERA Economic Consulting points out that the 37 million people in the US currently holding student debt are "concentrated in the younger segment of the population, as more than 60 percent of the total is between the ages of 18 and 39."…

              …Moreover, private and public lenders have "broad collection powers, far greater than those of mortgage or credit card lenders. The debt can't be shed in bankruptcy" (USA Today)….

              ….Of course, for wealthy families, none of this is a problem. The Princeton Review observes that of the students admitted by 10 highly competitive colleges in the US in 2011, 48.8 percent were able to pay the full bill, which averaged $53,158.

              As part of this overall process, a new species of multi-millionaire college presidents has also come into being. The New York Times reports that in the decade from 1999-2000 to 2009-10, "average presidential pay at the 50 wealthiest universities increased by 75 percent, to $876,792, while professorial pay increased 14 percent, to $179, 970." Presidents at 36 private colleges earned more than $1 million in 2009, up from 33 the previous year.

              The picture that emerges is of a society uninterested in the education and intellectual progress of the vast majority, except insofar as it profits rapacious corporate interests. There is nothing "democratic" about such a society in any meaningful sense.

              The US population at present is prey for financial vultures, whose practices are facilitated by every level of government and the two major political parties. Indeed, America's politicians see their central role as helping to fill the pockets of ruthless "entrepreneurs," while enriching themselves in the process…

              http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/debt-m24.shtml

              • 5 votes
              #3.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:28 AM EDT

              Big difference, the NK would rather launch a missile than feed its people, we basically closed NASA because we are in a recession.

              • 9 votes
              #3.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:33 AM EDT

              Quote Phenomenal112 : "we basically closed NASA because we are in a recession."

              And meanwhile we are giving our tax money to the afghan military, and even after NATO leaves Afghanistan, we will be giving them about 4 billion dollars per year.

              • 2 votes
              #3.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:45 AM EDT

              Agreed Anna the Afganistan war is something we could do without, bring our troops home.

              • 10 votes
              #3.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:50 AM EDT

              28,000 soldiers stationed there is ridiculous. Unlike Afghanistan I don't think there is any significant threat other than an occasional missile that isn't going to be deflected by people standing on a wall. The South Korean Army can take care of themselves, they are not an unstable government.

              • 6 votes
              #3.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:00 AM EDT

              "Freedoms Frontier" is a term that has been used over there for decades. It is no way a term the president came up with. He has been briefed on this standoff between them and us, before going into the DMZ. I spent 7 years active duty on the Korean Peninsula, and I will tell you that this term has been in existence for a very long time.

              • 14 votes
              #3.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:22 AM EDT

              I applaud Obama for going there. I do not normally support his actions but he is on the right track on this one.

              • 10 votes
              #3.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:24 AM EDT
              Comment author avatarMr.PheaNiques-0000001Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              He is a politician, it is an election year, he needs to be photographed kissing babies and supporting troops...It's admirable that MSNBC has chosen to give this story the prominence it deserves

              • 4 votes
              #3.11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:33 AM EDT

              another history major

              • 3 votes
              #3.12 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:57 AM EDT
              Comment author avatarJim-952823Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              When is he going to announce our withdraw date? Apologize to kim jong's son?? This guy is a natural born loser... must be getting close to election time.

              • 1 vote
              #3.13 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:12 AM EDT

              I may be a bit insane at my age, 80, but I think it's time to show North Korea and others our big stick and quit talking so much. The big stick is not how many Americans we have out all over the world ready to die, it is the mushroom cloud we should be using as a threat.

              I would tell North Korea if they attack South Korea, we will nuke them into oblivion. Isn't that what they are threatening us with, their pathetic nukes?

              I never thought I'd say something like that but all our troops are doing there is making it nice for those that run the cheap labor factories that are shipping cars over here. Time to bring our guys home and tell North Korea if they make us have to come back, they will regret it.

              • 2 votes
              #3.14 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:12 AM EDT
              Comment author avatarPazuzuking1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              F@#$ this muslin! He and all who follows him can rot in he!! for all i care!

              • 1 vote
              #3.15 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:14 AM EDT

              Quote Phenomenal112 : "Agreed Anna the Afganistan war is something we could do without, bring our troops home."

              Yes I agree, but I meant this 4 billion dollars per year will actually go to the afghan military, even after we leave we will continue to pay the afghan soldiers to protect their own country.

              • 1 vote
              #3.16 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:55 AM EDT

              Your comment shows a woeful ignorance of the human rights abuses by the North Korean government and the crushing but unnecessary poverty they live with. If that's not evil, and the system you take for granted is not good in comparison, then there is no such thing as good or evil.

              • 8 votes
              #3.17 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:28 AM EDT

              ArchStanton: You seem to be making excuses for students who run up debt to go to college to be able to get better paying jobs that will improve their lives, while at the same time blaming the President for this while giving a brief history lesson on how the free Enterprise system works You throw in the Re Pubs just to show your not biased, while leaving out many other key points; like the young adults who are being irresponsible with their own choices, as to how they spend their money!, some of these students spend thousands of dollars on clothes, cars, vacations, parties, buying the latest tech toys, etc. do you know they could have saved money by buying some of their clothes at a good will store? many could have bought a good used car, for a savings of at least 70% of what they spent?, hundreds could have saved by saying no to the night life, and parties, going to college does not give people a green light to waste money! the free Enterprise system works really well when you do sensible things and plan ahead more, many of these students, can defer payments, etc. my suggestion to them is to start planning how they can pay for what they borrowed, and when they accomplish their goals they will feel much better about themselves!!!

              • 3 votes
              #3.18 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:50 AM EDT

              dictionary72's standard apologist response for communism is your standard comment of a communist living in the world of idealism instead of the real world.

              In an ideal world you wouldn't need an oppressive dictatorship to enforce a communist-styled government on the people. In the real world you do because otherwise the people would ignore a communist government's mandates.

              Communism can't ever succeed because people are naturally inclined to not follow those beliefs because they lead to failure.

              • 1 vote
              #3.19 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

              Well. I'm pleasantly surprised that the amount of Obama hate is low in this thread and many actually stick on the subject.

              As for the troops being needed on the DMZ you have to go back a ways into history to see the aggression from the north. There is little doubt that North Korea would attack the south (they've done it in the past) if the troops weren't there as a first defense because they know China and Russia would protect them from a retaliatory attack. At least that was before...don't know yet what the new leader's plan is for the country.

              • 4 votes
              #3.20 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

              Obama will go to the border of North and South Korea, but he refuses to go check out the border of the United States and Mexico where we really have a much bigger problem when you think about it. SHAME ON HIM! Vote him out of office in November!

              • 8 votes
              #3.21 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

              Pippo Schillaci

              You are not crasy but unfortunately Obama doesn't have a big stick except to strike our Constitution with. Alan290 is exactly right, vote him out and get the world right side up again.

              Just for the record, gag me with this put up campaign poster photo op!! He is cutting the military every way he can so this is not only phoney it is insulting to ones intelligence.

              • 5 votes
              #3.22 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

              That picture of Obama in his cute AirForce1 leather jacket with the even cuter Commander-in-Chief name tag on it, looking through the rose colored binoculars kinda reminds me of Dukakis in the tank....It's no wonder our enemies don't fear him....he looks ridiculous.

              • 3 votes
              #3.23 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

              • DunkinH
                and the other 14 + EVERY SOLDIER SERVING NORTH OF SOUL KNOWS THAT IF THE N.
                KOREANS ATTACK....THEY WILL DIE. That is what that border has been for every
                American and ROK soldier since 1953........and it was that way in 1974 and 1975
                when I was there.

              For some reason this would not post before

              • 2 votes
              #3.24 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

              Didn't Ronald Reagan say it looked like a Hollywood back lot?

              • 1 vote
              #3.25 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

              'Freedom's frontier'? Given the extremism if N Korea it's highly doubtful any freedom will ever reign in this part of the world

              • 1 vote
              #3.26 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

              Wow, impressive, according to the story he goes from "Freedom's Frontier" to the Korean Demilatarized Zone to wag the imperial weenie at Dr. Evil in the Forbidden Kingdom across the barbed wire boarder.

              Forbidden Kingdom that is until Dr. Evil opens up sweat shops in N. Korea with cheaper and more exploited slaves than China that Wall Street and Corporate America can make billions of $$ off of, then Dr. Evil will be toasted at the White House and the Formerly Forbidden Kingdom will get Most Favored Nation Trade Status.

              But he didn't have to go to Afghanistan and make himself look like an idiot and a fraud traipsing around in a leather flight jacket with an Air Force One, patch on it (Air Force One= New Pharaoh's Ark).

              Here's the real frontier of freedom: Debt slavery or freedom for millions of young people, and I bet he doesn't do a thing about it...


              US student debt surpasses $1 trillion

              By David Walsh

              24 March 2012

              According to a federal government agency, student loan debt in the US surpassed 1 trillion dollars "several months ago." The finding, reported by a spokesman for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) to a banking conference in Austin, Texas on Wednesday, is "much larger" (in his words) than other recent estimates.

              The Federal Reserve Bank of New York issued a study in early March suggesting that the total student debt had reached $870 billion. The new figure is 16 percent higher than that estimate. This staggering amount is greater than the total owed by Americans on their credit cards or auto loans.

              The CFPB announcement, which signifies that a considerable portion of the younger generation will be condemned to decades of debt, will not create a ripple within the American political and media establishment.

              Leading newspaper editors and television pundits, as well as Democratic and Republican politicians, are universally agreed that the full cost of the economic crisis must be borne by the working population, whatever the consequences. Neither Barack Obama nor any of his Republican rivals will do anything about the deepening scandal of student debt…

              ….Total student loan debt has grown by 511 percent, or more, over the past dozen years. In the first quarter of 1999, a mere $90 billion in student loans were outstanding. That figure had soared to $550 billion in the second quarter of 2011, which may turn out to have been an underestimation. Between 1999-2000 and 2007-2008, private student loan borrowing grew four times, from $4.5 billion to $21.8 billion per year. The College Board reports that, adjusted for inflation, students are borrowing twice what they did a decade ago.

              According to the Project on Student Debt, some two-thirds of college seniors graduated with loans in 2010. Those graduates also faced the highest official unemployment rate for young college graduates in recent history, 9.1 percent. The Economic Policy Institute estimates that between 2000 and 2011, wages for college-educated men and women entering the workforce saw their inflation-adjusted earnings fall 5.2 percent and 4.4 percent, respectively.

              A recent study by NERA Economic Consulting points out that the 37 million people in the US currently holding student debt are "concentrated in the younger segment of the population, as more than 60 percent of the total is between the ages of 18 and 39."…

              …Moreover, private and public lenders have "broad collection powers, far greater than those of mortgage or credit card lenders. The debt can't be shed in bankruptcy" (USA Today)….

              ….Of course, for wealthy families, none of this is a problem. The Princeton Review observes that of the students admitted by 10 highly competitive colleges in the US in 2011, 48.8 percent were able to pay the full bill, which averaged $53,158.

              As part of this overall process, a new species of multi-millionaire college presidents has also come into being. The New York Times reports that in the decade from 1999-2000 to 2009-10, "average presidential pay at the 50 wealthiest universities increased by 75 percent, to $876,792, while professorial pay increased 14 percent, to $179, 970." Presidents at 36 private colleges earned more than $1 million in 2009, up from 33 the previous year.

              The picture that emerges is of a society uninterested in the education and intellectual progress of the vast majority, except insofar as it profits rapacious corporate interests. There is nothing "democratic" about such a society in any meaningful sense.

              The US population at present is prey for financial vultures, whose practices are facilitated by every level of government and the two major political parties. Indeed, America's politicians see their central role as helping to fill the pockets of ruthless "entrepreneurs," while enriching themselves in the process…

              http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/debt-m24.shtml

                #3.27 - Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
                Reply

                It is as close to the frontier as you can get...

                Think about it...the DMZ is essentially "No Man's Land". The Berlin Wall has already fallen, and the Iron Curtain is all but a memory. But here is still the last border. South Korea had fumbled and stumbled in its journey to democracy, but now it is an economic powerhouse. Its Northern cousin is essentially a rabid, deranged relic from the Cold War, that can't even feed its own people. It treats its leaders like divine figures. While they may not dare say it aloud, every North Korean would jump at the chance to head south.

                Freedom though, should not be taken for granted. We are already chasing a dragon's tail by trading our own for security. We can't afford to make that mistake.

                • 10 votes
                Reply#4 - Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

                I visited the DMZ once in 1995. I remember some S. Korean soldiers stationed themselves along the border line within the compound, facing N. Korea, and adopted a sort of karate stance. When I asked the guide what they were doing, he said they were to prevent the N. Koreans from running across the line and snatching us. I remember how shocked I felt at the thought that could even happen. The S. Koreans take their northern neighbor very seriously.

                • 19 votes
                #4.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:08 AM EDT
                Comment author avatardictionary72Restored

                Obummer should not be visiting South Korea making new free trade agreements costing thousands of American jobs. He should not be visiting the DMZ giving credibility to North Korea.

                Obummer should not be giving food to North Korea as there are bridges that China can send all the food to North Korea it needs.

                Actually there should be no talks with North Korea. Let them wither on the vine. They are not going to attack anyone. One bomb and North Korea is cinders with nuclear winds blowing over China.

                The U.S. should pull out 100% of South Korea and let Australia, Indonesia, Japan and New Zealand handle the problems in their region of the world. Without the U.S. to threaten North Korea would dry up and blow away. Let it wither on the VINE!

                • 2 votes
                #4.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:05 AM EDT

                Phenomenal112 It all depends on how you want to change the meaning of many good olde English words such as marriage, gay and homophobia. They all have a legitimate English meaning. Now a few people what those definitions changed.

                I prefer the definition and use such as they enjoyed a gay and carefree life when they were young.

                That is impossible to say now.

                • 6 votes
                #4.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:06 AM EDT
                Comment author avatardictionary72Restored

                Obummer is too stupid to ignore them and let them wither on the vine and let Russia and China feed them.

                • 8 votes
                #4.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:10 AM EDT

                Obummer is not a student of history. 54,566 American soldiers returned from the Korean conflict in Black Bags courtesy of the North Koreans, Russians and Chinese.

                Now let those great friends help each other stay alive.

                • 4 votes
                #4.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:22 AM EDT

                AG99... I visited the DMZ two years ago... from the northern side. Two DPRK troops were there to prevent the same thing in the other direction.

                • 5 votes
                #4.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:44 AM EDT

                TIDubai: Really? How interesting. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised given what they're taught about us and by extension, their neighbors. I watched a special once about how genuinely they believe we're out to get them. It would have been funny had it not been so sad.

                • 2 votes
                #4.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

                Don't under estimate those cold blooded, beer drinking, alcoholic Canadians on the northern border. I read somewhere that over 50% of the Canadian population are alcoholic, why? Their leader wants to use them to invade the Milwaukee.

                • 3 votes
                #4.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:55 AM EDT

                It was very interesting to see their side of things and learn about the Korean War from their perspective. Plus it was cool to walk on the deck of the USS Pueblo. :-) It's easily the weirdest place I have ever been.

                • 1 vote
                #4.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

                Remember, anything that Obama does between now and November 20th is for POLITICAL REASONS; TO GET VOTES. Another recent one was his change in stance on the N. Dakota oil pipeline. He is moving it up because he knows that if he puts it off, it will cost him votes in November. He is a master politician, and a horrible President, that's all.

                • 3 votes
                #4.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

                dictionary72

                If only the world was the black and white you adhere too.......but the gray area here is the Red in China.

                Like the Japanese of the 1930's, the Chinese leadership want the Pacific for themselves.....our nation learned the price we pay for ignoring the world and the payment started on Dec 7, 1941.

                "History may not repeat itself......but it does rhyme" M. Twain

                • 1 vote
                #4.11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

                alan, you are so full of yourself. Do you ever tell the truth, do you ever have facts, no....

                • 1 vote
                #4.12 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:55 PM EDT
                Reply
                Comment author avatarldoRestored

                America votes against Mr. Obama's re-election bid = America's Freedom Frontier

                You can tell what happens when you have someone, or government, in complete control over it's people.

                • 10 votes
                Reply#5 - Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

                Huh? Are you high?

                Name one thing that Obama have total control or strip freedom from people? From what I learned, GOP did more than that, they are a lite version of Muslim society.

                • 16 votes
                #5.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:43 AM EDT

                "Name one thing that Obama have total control or strip freedom from people?"

                Well for one,the idiotic healthcare plan.

                "GOP did more than that, they are a lite version of Muslim society."

                That's one of the most moronic comments I have ever heard.The GOP is the opposite of a Muslim Society.

                • 6 votes
                #5.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:00 AM EDT

                TSA grope searches, Obamacare, extension of the Patriot Act, "Fast and Furious" which would have been used towards anti-2nd Amendment legislation had the ATF not been caught red handed, no prosecution of Black Panther voter intimidation in Philadelphia. The list goes on. If he get's re-elected I expect to see his admistration become even more irrational.

                • 8 votes
                #5.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:01 AM EDT

                I don't know how TSA grope searches takes away our freedom? Our freedom to carry weapons onto a plane? If we had those grope searches before, maybe, 9/11 could have been avoided. Obama care allows all citizens to buy health insurance. If anything it allows freedoms that were being denied. Patriot Act, wartime buddy, limited rights, get used to it. "Fast and Furious" was a move against Mexican drug lords I don't see the connection between second amendment and Mexican drug lords. Prosecution of the Black Panthers for voter fraud should be done by the District Attorney not Obama believe it or not he is not the law.

                • 8 votes
                #5.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:48 AM EDT

                @Phenomenal112

                Thanks for explaining all that. When I read reply I am like "are these people really understand what they are saying?"

                As usual, they have no clue what they are talking about.

                • 8 votes
                #5.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:59 AM EDT

                @Random pennsylvanian

                Opposite? Control women, want religious based government and more.

                You realize that Muslim society is what Christianity was 400 years ago. Without laws here in US, they are almost identical.

                Tell me, how are they different?

                • 12 votes
                #5.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:01 AM EDT

                @Phenomenal112

                Amazing how neoconish you liberals sound now that the messiah is doing the same things as Bush. Pro Patriot now? Hah, what a double standard!

                Congressional investigations have been conducted and weapons were successfully snuck through the TSA on numerous occasions. It is a complete farce intended to trade freedom and privacy for the illusion of safety and you bought it hook line and sinker. Obamacare FORCES people and businesses to buy insurance, that is the exact opposite of freedom. And Obama's buddy Holder chose not to prosecute.

                • 3 votes
                #5.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:43 AM EDT

                If we had those grope searches before, maybe, 9/11 could have been avoided

                if we had reinforced doors on the planes and assumed that all hijacking were going to end in suicide ramming instead of cooperating with hijacker demands (which WAS official policy before 9/11) then 9/11 would have been avoided/ the grope searchs are nothing but a bunch of BS for idiots that think that the any kind of freedom ripped away from you is going to make you safer

                • 3 votes
                #5.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:52 AM EDT

                @DunkinH

                Nothing is perfect, but, that does not mean we should stop trying. My friend had some strange residue (Chemical) in his knuckles on our way to Vegas. 3 Big guards took him to a room and he got gropped. He said that he was not violated and that the guards respected him. The scanners caught residue on his knuckles that he did not even know what it was. Those things work, they can catchbombs. Although the equipment in my opinion are diligent, I can't always say that about the officers (human error as some weapons got away).

                Yes, it is true that Obama care forces business to buy insuarance. But, that is what I want. People like you put businesses over people. Yeah, yeah, corporations are people right. That's exactly it, people (I highly stress that) like you put rights of businesses over the rights of people. Let me see you marry your daughter to a corporation.

                • 5 votes
                #5.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:05 AM EDT

                "Fast and Furious" was not a move against Mexican drug lords, it was building a "case" to strip the second ammendment by letting laws get broke in this country, using numbers to justify a rationale to all the sheep who buy msnbc as "gospel" rather than trying to learn the truth. It is sad when people die, (border agent) for no reason, its even sadder when they die because of someones political agenda...which is trying to undermine the Constitution, the basis of freedom, our United States of America, and then sit back and NOBODY is held accountable. Nobody knows who is responsible... for a death, nobody....really?? who is lying....

                Where does the LIE end?. WHO takes responsibilty? lets see some investigating journalism on that. You wont see it here, on msn, that I will promise you..

                • 1 vote
                #5.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:30 AM EDT

                So wait... Your entire argument that we are a totalitarian dictatorship... Is that to get on an airplane you MIGHT have to be searched for bombs?

                • 1 vote
                #5.11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

                CuongDNguyen

                1. Shoving Obamacare down the throats of the American people who did not want it.

                2. Passing legislation for the first time in History to allow American Citizens to be arrested and held without trial.

                3. Passing legislation to prevent freedom of speech by making it a felony to demonstrate "near" anyone protected by the secret service.

                4. Taking power into his own hands contrary to the Constitution by making recess appointments of cronies when there was no recess.

                5. Preventing our own oil development so that we have to remain dependent on foreign governments for oil.

                6. Stopping the oil pipeline from Canada and the thousands of jobs that would have come with it. Then grandstanding claiming credit for the southern leg of the pipeline when it was something he could not prevent and is useless without the northern end that he refused to permit then lobbied the Harry Rabbit led Senate to not let it go forward against his wishes.

                Wake up and smell the coffee!

                  #5.12 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

                  1. Americans did and still do want it. It's what got him elected.

                  2. Bush signed that into law.

                  3. This is a lie.

                  4. This is also a lie.

                  5. This is common sense safety, not "stripping freedom."

                  6. The pipeline would have put Americans at risk so that Canada could more easily sell oil to China. We take all the risk while other countries reap the benefit.

                    #5.13 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

                    Dunkin, name your fact sources....You can't because you are telling bold face lies to try and scare people because you don't like our president!!! How dare you.... I wish we could charge you idiots with treson. Idiots.

                    I am proud to be an American and proud of our president.

                      #5.14 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:02 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      The important lesson to learn from the 38th parallel is that a secure border can be maintained between two nations. For 60 years no significant number of infiltrators has been able to pass from the North to the South. Obama could do the same with our southern border. It is possible to prevent the infiltration of illegal aliens from the South to the North. Only a traitor would do less to secure our border.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#6 - Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

                      Not even the Republicans have suggested me militarize our Southern border in the same vein as the 38th parallel. We're not at war with Central and South America.

                      • 11 votes
                      #6.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

                      The DMZ is 160 miles long. The US-Mexican border is almost 2,000 miles long. You do the math.

                      • 19 votes
                      #6.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

                      I was on the DMZ back in the early 70s and it is a very dangerous place to be. The people of North Korea are prisoners in their own country. Few North Korean citizens seeking freedom have made it through the DMZ to South Korea. Anyone trying to get through the DMZ to South Korea has to make it past North Korean guards and an electrified fence. If they are able to make it to the South Korean side of the DMZ then they have to be worried about their initial encounter with the South Korean and American soldiers. It is easy to sit here in the USA with all of our taken for granted freedoms and be critical of our southern border policy; however, President Obama in no traitor just as President Bush was no traitor. People seeking freedom will do whatever it takes to gain that freedom and I can't blame them. Maybe if you had served on an outpost in the Korean DMZ you would have a greater appreciation for what freedom really means.

                      • 16 votes
                      #6.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:32 AM EDT

                      I grew up in SKorea until the mid 80s. So I know what you are talking about. Everybody was in a war mode. Kids were taught to make sacrifice for the country and the communists were the sworn enemies.

                      We need a secure boarder in South. This needs to be brought up more in national level.

                      • 10 votes
                      #6.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:47 AM EDT

                      The DMZ is 160 miles long. The US-Mexican border is almost 2,000 miles long. You do the math.

                      Let's see... 28,000 troops for 160 miles... that's only 350,000 troops we'll need on our border! Not to mention the mines, missiles, and outposts needed every few yards... that shouldn't cost to much.

                      Piece of cake!

                      • 6 votes
                      #6.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:17 AM EDT

                      Uh, you do realize that shooting Mexicans and blowing them up would be a war crime, right? That's a great way to have our civil and military leaders brought to the Hague.

                      • 1 vote
                      #6.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

                      It's a war crime to defend our borders? No one's dropping bombs on their houses, just planting mines in their way--on our soil. Not that I support planting mines, but they're not illegal.

                      • 3 votes
                      #6.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

                      John Carter, Let me illuminate your ignorance a bit for you. I was stationed in Korea in 1967-68 and during that time, there were NUMEROUS incursions by the North into the SOuth. They would set booby traps to kill our troops stationed near the border, dug tunnels under the border and many other such things. They also sent a suicide squad f 20 assassins south of the border with the goal of KILLING the democratically elected South Korean President. Fortunately they were spotted and reported to the Korean National Police by a wood cutter and the last assassin was NOT killed until the out skirts of Seoul Korea. Have you Forgotten the Pubelo? I haven't that occurred while I was there, The North has shelled some South Korean Islands , seized South Korean fishing boats and committed many other such atrocities. The CEASE FIRE agreement signed in 1953 was for TEN years and expired in 1963.

                      SO your claim about not many infiltrations is Bogus. Yes, Obama is a TRAITOR to the USA and responsible for the death of many Mexican citizens with his "Fast and Furious" gun running scheme. The Border SHOULD have been secured long ago and ALL the illegals in this country shipped BACK to Mexico along with their "anchor" babies. They should get zero benefits in this country, no health care, no education, and NO welfare. Treat the Mexicans as they treat Illegal aliens in their own country.

                      • 3 votes
                      #6.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

                      A traitor, really? It wasn't a gun running scheme first of all, it was a way to track the proliferation of weapons used both in Mexico and in the USA, for criminal purposes. Kind of like when cops sell drugs and videotape who buys them, without arresting anyone, as a means to track the narcotics trade. It's how law enforcement gathers information on the structure of existing organizations.

                      • 3 votes
                      #6.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:21 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarlarry-1254912Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Capt Tripps your an idiot! Since when is telling farmers there kids cant work on the farm is not a loss of our freedom! MORON.

                      • 1 vote
                      #6.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                      AG, massacring civilians most definitely is a war crime.

                        #6.11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

                        It would be nice if Obama did care enough about our country to protect it like South Korea protects it's border...let's protect our southern border Mr Obama!

                          #6.12 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:34 PM EDT
                          • 3 votes
                          #6.13 - Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:45 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          they were slinging bullets across the dmz line in 58-59 . . . . . long after the 'conflict'

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#7 - Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

                          I bet history see's him just like we do Abraham Lincoln, George Washington. The first black president,that is bigger than MLK.

                          All the fuss only further insures his place.

                          • 7 votes
                          #8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

                          I would say history will see him as the most unprepared president in US history which will put him in the same category as Carter.

                          • 11 votes
                          #8.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:57 AM EDT

                          OK, let the history books reflect that Obama is Americas first black president. Now that we have crossed that threshold, lets all vote in November to repair the damage that he has done to this country. We are taking on water faster than the Titanic. S.O.S.!

                          • 6 votes
                          #8.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:03 AM EDT

                          I say American voters proved that we are not racist by electing a black president. OK, that's not working so now lets prove we're not stupid in November and elect someone else, whose competent.

                          • 7 votes
                          #8.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:07 AM EDT

                          Charles

                          If we elected any of the gopers to the office, that would prove we ARE stupid.

                          • 13 votes
                          #8.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:28 AM EDT
                          Comment author avatardictionary72Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          Obummer is a fake, a fool and a fraud!

                          Obama is a fraud as he Obama has refused to allow access to whatever original documentation there might be in the state of Hawaii, where he says he was born, as well as many other documents, such as passport records, kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records and schedules, medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license and adoption records.

                          Obama is a fool! Here he had the best trained soldiers in the world and he issues a strictly kill order against bin Laden! Not a capture order a KILL order! What was in bin Laden's mind was priceless and he had bin Laden murdered. Then before he knew what was being thrown in the ocean he has the body dumped before the DNA tests were terminated. You got to be a fool to do all that! Lets not talk about Solydra and the $529,000,000 he gave to the Finnish car company to build competing electric cars in Finland and lets not talk about the trillions wasted on Iraq and Afghanistan and the 11 aircraft carriers!!!!!!! Why does the U.S. need 11 aircraft carriers????? Obama wants one in every ocean and great lake to go fishing?

                          And he is a fraud. He couldn't get along with his democratic congress. We don't know if he even graduated any college or what he studied! He won't release the records and many of his records have DISAPPEARED! We don't know anything about him. He says he barely knew Bill Ayers and now we have them sitting down at meetings and dinners. The more you investigated the dirtier he gets.

                          And of course his wonderful life long friend the self proclaimed MARXIST PREACHER WRIGHT WHO made Obama swear to only buy from black owned businesses.............

                          The very same who is president of the U.S.

                            #8.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:43 AM EDT

                            starbuck49 Old saying "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!"

                            You prefer to be shame yourself twice?

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                            #8.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:47 AM EDT

                            Don't worry, history books taught in high school end after WWII. Say what you will about Obama, but, "Small government and big army" sounds pretty stupid to me.

                            • 4 votes
                            #8.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:58 AM EDT

                            dictionary72

                            dictionary72

                            Rommel( I don't care about the poor ) Romney

                            Rick ( I don't care about unemployment ) Santorum

                            Newt ( adulterous ) Gingrich

                            Ron ( Geritol man ) Paul

                            All four unqualified to hold the office of dog catcher.

                            OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

                            • 13 votes
                            #8.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:34 AM EDT

                            The issues that starbuck49 brought about the GOP candidates does not bother me. But, what does bother me is that they do not tell us what they are going to do. Even Herman Cain gave us the 9-9-9 plan, sure it sounded stupid but atleast we knew what he was going to do. The candidtaes mentioned only "promise" that they are going to fix the economy and bring jobs without showing any economic models to fix it. Then they talk about moon colonoies etc. Jesus Christ.

                            • 5 votes
                            #8.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:15 AM EDT

                            Really Charles? Because he's done a pretty good job so far.

                            • 2 votes
                            #8.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

                            dictionary72, you're an idiot, it's because of people like you on BOTH sides that we can't have a decent discussion in this country. I've read your post and none of them are facts and no one takes you seriously because obviously you're a bigot which makes you stupid just for living. The FACT is , like what was stated above, EVERY U.S President since Regan has visited the DMZ, if Obama didn't go then you would say he didn't care about the troops , now that he has gone like ALL THE OTHER PRESIDENTS, it's because he's running for reelection. I just didn't realize how many idiots this country had and the sad part about it is that they don't know they're idiots.

                            • 2 votes
                            #8.11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:25 AM EDT

                            are you aware the same 38th Parallel also runs through Washington DC.On that parallel,the Democrats represent the North Koreans and the Republicans are the South Koreans.

                            • 1 vote
                            #8.12 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

                            I guess that it takes a bit of time for the people in WV to figure things out. Charles apparently never heard of George W. Bush. Unprepared for the presidency? Bush couldn't find his @!$%# with a hand mirror. He was so incompetent, so completely lost that they had to essentially give the presidency over to Dick" The Prick" Cheney. Cheney had brains but no heart so he was the perfect tool to orchestrate the rape of the Federal Treasury and war of commercial conquest in Iraq. While Cheney was overseeing the deaths of thousands of American soldiers Bush was happily eating pretzels, playing video games and clearing brush on his ranch, The 00 IQ. Obama will never get close to being the monumental @!$%# up that Bush was.

                            • 3 votes
                            #8.13 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

                            No, They'll see him for what he is; A Loud Mouthed , do nothing and blame everybody else, slob who partied while the American public had to cut back and reduce, lost their homes, lost their jobs and had to make do with less. Then he screwed the public with his so called "healthcare" scheme that does nothing but add layers of bureaucrats, and costs while producing no benefits. Should we talk about Moochelle taking numerous expensive vacations to exotic places on the taxpayers dime while dragging along her posse of family, friends and service minions, not to mention her two brats. She has a "personal staff" of over 150 people, more than ANY other First Lady in history. I guess too you have forgotten about all of Obama's appointed Czar's who were NOT elected, were NOT approved by the Senate and yet make rules and regulations we are suppose to follow.

                            Now look at the TSA, every time they search somebody they violate that's person's Fourth Amendment Rights as they have NO Search Warrant signed by a judge, that person is guilty of NO CRIME to jsutify the search; they have no business in searching our belongings, forcing us to take off jackets, belts, shoes and all the rest of that garbage.

                            We now have the MOST criminal administration in history. Obama will go down as the WORST President in history displacing Jimmy Carter.

                            • 3 votes
                            #8.14 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

                            Just keep telling that lie over and over you might get some cretins to believe it. The republican right goes back to that line for every democratic president. Before Obama it was Clinton, they told us, that had the most criminal administration. Now it's Obama. No Ms. Englishl ass you too easily disregard The Bush Mafia Family businesses and the fact that they were in bed with the Bin Ladin family since the 90's. The fact that Bush made it clear that he didn't care about Bin Ladin. The fact that Bush sullied the name of this country by encouraging the use of torture against our prisoners. The fact that under the closed eyes of the Cheney Bush administration literally BILLIONS of our tax dollars simply DISAPPEARED in Iraq. No my dear Englishl ass you have a Fux scripted list of lies and garbage against Obama and his family. Spouted by Hannity, Limbaugh and all the rest of the fascist right. Obama is going to be re-elected and you're just feeling the anguish and frustration of a party that can offer no better than a religious fruitcake or a pathological liar as opponents to him. Obama is probably the best president we have had in 60 years. Put that between some bread and EAT IT !!!

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                            #8.15 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                            Basically, they can't STAND that there's a black man in the White House, but they can't exactly say that publicly for obvious reasons. So they come up with excuses and fabrications instead, using coded language to try to hide their real motivations for hating him. It's sad and disgusting, but it's just how they are.

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                            #8.16 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

                            I remember early in the Teaparty rallies, all the pictures of Obama with watermelons or Obama as a lawn jockey. They were careless with their racial invective at that time, almost proud of their bigotry. At some point I think they were told to tone down the overt racism and reminded that they had to at least pretend that they cared about spending and the economy, but it's clear to anybody who really looks that the Teaparty is pretty much the KKK and the John Birch Society under a new faux patriotic label.

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                            #8.17 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:59 PM EDT
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                            I think WJ the third is doing LSD

                              Reply#9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:27 AM EDT

                              The only ones that will take your freedoms away are the corporations that are people my friend.

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                              Reply#10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

                              South Koreans always have been in favor of bigger government. When there were little to no regulations, there were more corruptions, more gaps between rich and poor, and no health care for the masses. Sounds familiar? Koreans called it the signs of developing/3rd world country.

                              When the government got bigger and set the boundaries, things began to open up. Don't get me wrong. Koreans are hard working people. My parents (Korean) used to say, "If you have working 4 limbs, you don't get government handout." We're not afraid of working hard to achieve our goals. We're taught from the 1st grade in school.

                              Now I heard that the public schools are free (we used to pay for them. Mandatory, too) and everyone gets healthcare coverage. Their government is not stepping into their liberty but rather they protect and nurture so that the people can thrive. Instead of worrying about how to afford a doctor visit, they can think of how to succeed.

                              S Korea still has many issues but if America still thinks what we had in 2004 - 2008 is better than now, America will get further behind the rest of the world. Think about that.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:35 AM EDT

                              "South Koreans always have been in favor of bigger government."

                              Well if that were the case,there would be no S.Korea or N.Korea,there would just be one communist Korea.

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                              #11.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:49 AM EDT

                              Obviously you have no idea. Ignorance is not something to brag, my friend.

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                              #11.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:51 AM EDT

                              Seriously RP, why don't you go play outside and let the grown ups talk.

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                              #11.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

                              More complete and utter nonsense from a leftist liberal.

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                              #11.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

                              Sorry "toasty" BUT you are NOT one of the adults; just one of the brain dead liberals that love to spout nonsense.

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                              #11.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

                              Then you tell me how the North Koreans view the South. Go on. Let's see if you can do this without wikipedia.

                                #11.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

                                Seriously Toasty,how about you come up with a better comment.

                                  #11.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                                  Basically, the North Koreans see the South as our puppet. It's not true, but it's convenient for their propaganda. They certainly don't hate the South, because in the Korean race-based mindset, they are one people. This is also why it always seems that the South Koreans don't give two @!$%#s whenever the North attacks them: they really don't. In their minds, they're all Korean, and that's more important than anything. It's also why we saw an influx of apology letters when that kid at Virginia Tech went ballistic. Despite being born and raised in the United States, the Koreans still felt that since he was of Korean ancestry, he was their responsibility.

                                  As for the "big government" BS, democracy in South Korea is only a very recent phenomenon. It was a military dictatorship for far longer than it's been a democracy. Basically, it WAS "big government." We've seen it there before. Communism has a real definition; you can't just make it up to suit your argument.

                                    #11.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                                    Toasty, you are a sad individual. Seriously, it is the most ridiculous thing to say that just because we don't like the man as president it means we don't like his skin color! So basically what you are saying is that he can do all the stupid things that he wants and that we aren't supposed to say anything about it because then we are seen as racist?? What a bunch of nonsense! That is like a criminal being allowed to commit crimes because he is black and we would not want to be seen as racist. Do you even realize how idiotic that is? Who cares what color he is? Not me, not most of the world! We care about what good he is doing as president...that would be, NOT MUCH. Please, leave your racist comments to yourself and stick to the problem at hand. Our country needs a good president because currently we dont have one!

                                      #11.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:47 PM EDT

                                      Alright Fab, if it isn't racism, what IS the reason that teabaggers suddenly attack their own ideas once the president agrees with them? Why do they suddenly change their positions based solely on his, if it isn't his skin color?

                                        #11.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:37 PM EDT
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                                        What a Joke.............., sorry but thats all i can say about that!

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                                        Reply#12 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:42 AM EDT

                                        It's only a matter of time until N.Korea and S.Korea have a full scale war.You can't avoid it,you can only contain until you can't contain it anymore.Then the U.S. will be dragged into helping S.Korea,while China will be dragged into helping N.Korea.Then China and America will have an unfriendly relationship,just like we had with Russia.So once again, history will probably repeat itself,and we will have another cold war.Only this time,America might collapse first.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        Reply#13 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:45 AM EDT

                                        Agreed, but we don't have to collapse, if our allies held their part of the bargain such as Pakistan and Afghanistan. Also if they didn't try to instigate wars such as Israel, we might not have a good chance. But it will be our allies that would lead to our downfall in my opinion.

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                                        #13.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:08 AM EDT

                                        You were right for the most part, but China certainly isn't going to back the DPRK up militarily. What will have to happen is some sort of deal with the Chinese that they will help occupy the North, without letting another demarcation line forming to separate north from south again.

                                          #13.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

                                          You're idiot number 6

                                            #13.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:27 AM EDT

                                            I hope you're wrong RP, because South Korean girls are frickin hot and I don't want to see any of them(or any at all for that matter) get hurt.

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                                            #13.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:11 PM EDT
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                                            Obama is looking through those binoculars with envy written all over his face. His Marxist agenda is working just fine in N. Korea.

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                                            Reply#14 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:49 AM EDT

                                            G bush looked through the binoculars with the covers on. It's dark over there, don't they have lights?

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                                            #14.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:01 AM EDT

                                            Sorry Tshanny,

                                            President Obama wasn't a Marxist,He's an Arab

                                            Dont laugh,Dont over estimate the power of Stupidity.

                                            That's why Americans such a mess.

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                                            #14.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:06 AM EDT

                                            idiot number 7

                                              #14.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:27 AM EDT
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                                              It always amuses me to hear of "all the freedoms President Obama is taking away". When asked to list those freedoms, folks seem to have a harder time of it. On the other hand, I have a great fear of the theocracy that seems to be the goal of a good portion of the Republican party. I seem to remember the phrase "no one expect the Spanish inquisition" from some Monty Python sketch, and that seems like exactly what they propose.

                                              • 9 votes
                                              Reply#15 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:50 AM EDT

                                              Especially Santorum.

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                                              #15.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:34 AM EDT

                                              Theocracy? Wouldn't you let your daughter marry a corporation?

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                                              #15.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:11 AM EDT
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                                              Comment author avatarcharles from wvExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                              Obama just looks out of place as Commander in Chief.

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                                              Reply#16 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:53 AM EDT

                                              Why do you say that? Is it because he is black?

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                                              #16.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:13 AM EDT

                                              charles from wv - then I guess you thought Colin Powell looked out of place also

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                                              #16.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:06 AM EDT
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                                              It was six decades ago this year that outside offensive totalitarian ETs overflew Washington DC, in order to demand the return of the Roswell crash remains. I was living at Wright Patterson Air Force base at the time, where my grandfather (Colonel Charles Faulkner Carter) was second in command. He had a son (Charles Jr., 6ft. 4in. tall) who was serving as a military officer in Korea during the Korean War at the time, who was hit square in the chest with a N.K. sniper's bullet while looking at enemy lines through binoculars. He was knocked clean off of his feet, but thankfully he was wearing his flak jacket at the time, and he was unharmed. These ETs chose the middle of the Korean War as the most opportune time to demand the return of the Roswell crash remains because we had our hands full militarily with the Soviets, the Red Chinese, and the North Koreans. - Rick Carter

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                                              Reply#17 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:57 AM EDT

                                              ??

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                                              #17.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:00 AM EDT

                                              Goody for you... Because every draftee who went there (and dies there for no reason) made such a positive impact on the future

                                                #17.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:03 AM EDT

                                                Rick, Did you write all this from your own memory? Are you Rick Carter?

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                                                #17.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:09 AM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarRickCarterExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                My grandfather was personally involved in the background investigation into the Roswell Incident of 1947 at Wright Patterson Air Force base back in the early 1950s. Back in 1947, these ETs were conducting a post WWII recon mission of our nuclear facilities in the western and south western United States, as part of a baseline study into our emerging WMD capability, since WMDs have a very key role to play in the final programmed Christian Apocalypse or World War III. They were spotted coming down the Pacific coast in early 1947 by a number of reputable observers, probably from a base camp somewhere up in Canada or Alaska. They were particularly interested in the Roswell, N.M. area because the 509th bomber group was based at Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) at the time, and they were the only bomber group in the entire world authorized to carry nuclear weapons at the time. Please understand that all three of these corrupt "End Time" Abrahamic religions were covertly installed in a serial way by outside offensive totalitarian ETs, who repeatedly masqueraded as Divinity (and also angels of Divinity) toward mankind over a period of several thousand Earth years, in the process of covertly installing these corrupt Abrahamic religions. This means that our world has been under covert biocybernetic warfare attack for thousands of years already, primarily in the form of these Abrahamic religions. These Abrahamic religions are all critical components of a larger ET designed PWMD, or Program Weapon of Mass Destruction, which is designed to crash and explode our emerging human world in a final programmed cataclysm of global warfare fueled with WMDs, known as the Christian Apocalypse or World War III. These ETs are trying to create an eminent domain pretext for outside military intervention on the heels of WWIII, using their (now) eminent domain rights of military intervention in our sector of the Milky Way galaxy, so they can move in on our extremely valuable celestial real estate and take it over (under the guise of the returning Christ or Messiah), and one day take it completely away, after supposedly trying for a thousand years following their military intervention to salvage or redeem mankind from their "hopelessly violent ways". These ETs were forced to take this covert approach at territorial conquest in our Milky Way galaxy, which in turn relies upon their eminent domain rights of military intervention in our sector of the Milky Way galaxy, because there are Free Galaxy powers which reside elsewhere in our Milky Way galaxy, who currently stand in the way of overt military conquest on a stellar level. Mankind potentially has countless millions (even billions) of years of growth, development and expansion ahead of them so long as they don't fall for these ET designed and installed terminal religious "End Time" belief systems. This is the real "Gospel" or "Good News" which everyone on this planet needs to hear. - Rick Carter

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                                                #17.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:31 AM EDT

                                                Nice copy and paste, but what's your point?

                                                  #17.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:29 AM EDT

                                                  My point is that this is what is trying to set up in our world to go off in a final program "End Time" way right now, with the emergence of radical Islam on a global scale (who in turn are seeking WMDs, and N. Korea is secretly allied with this ongoing effort in Iran). If this ET installed "End Time" Christian Apocalypse ever fulfills itself in a terminal "End Time" program way, I want everyone to know that it will be outside offensive totalitarian ETs "coming in the clouds" militarily on the heels of World War III, while once more masquerading as Divinity toward mankind, this time as the returning Christ or Messiah (or Mahdi, whichever the case may be). Our ultimate insight into this covert conspiracy against our entire world was acquired during the course of the Korean War, and this article as everyone knows is about the Korean War. I just want to give everyone a complete overview of what was ultimately going on during the Korean War, so they can fully understand the ultimate decisions and implications which were (and are today) behind our past and present military stance in South Korea. - Rick Carter

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                                                  #17.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:13 AM EDT

                                                  The success of democracy ultimately depends upon an enlightened electorate, and I (Rick Carter) am desperately trying to be part of that global enlightenment for the sake and benefit of all mankind. Please understand that what is ultimately at stake here extends far beyond our own tiny planet, since these outside offensive totalitarian ETs are hoping to one day use our extremely valuable celestial real estate as a future stepping stone to further galactic conquest. I can only (desperately!) hope that these (other) Free Galaxy powers which reside elsewhere in our Milky Way galaxy are (somehow) augmenting my own personal efforts to keep mankind from eventually going extinct at the hands of these outside offensive totalitarian ETs, who are a cultural singularity (or "black hole" culture) under the control of an advanced but delusional ET/AI system, which in turn suffers from a God complex, or more specifically a "Son of God" complex, primarily as a result of sharing the same language as God, which in turn is the language of Mathematics. - Rick Carter

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                                                  #17.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:35 AM EDT

                                                  Hello, 911.

                                                  I'd like to report a robbery.

                                                  Some moronic boob named RickCarter stole my entire LSD stash.

                                                  Now he's running around town doing the "Bawk Bawk Chickenhawk"

                                                  Please, get this jack ass off the streets. Please, Hurry!

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                                                  #17.8 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:25 AM EDT

                                                  Rick Carter

                                                  We told you time and time again to stop breaking into your psychiatrists office after hours. Any further attempt on your part to use hospital computers will require us to tie you to your bed at night before lights out.

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                                                  #17.9 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:44 AM EDT

                                                  And no more warm milk and cookies!

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                                                  #17.10 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:47 AM EDT

                                                  I see Rick's skipped to the last chapter of the book.

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                                                  #17.11 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

                                                  Rick - Can't wait to hear what your excuse will be on December 22, 2012 when you wake up, as usual. Get some sleep, buddy - I notice that your post was at 3:35 a.m

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                                                  #17.12 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:22 PM EDT
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                                                  Freedom's Frontier? Such hyperbole...

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                                                  Reply#18 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:01 AM EDT
                                                  Comment author avatarTSHANNYExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                  dak, i dispise you and your ilk. Your freedom is your birthright but you havent earned it. Those that earned it for you payed your share. I know your a lefty and a selfish little POS. You've got a right to voice your opinion but your still a wothless POS.

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                                                  #18.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:15 AM EDT

                                                  dak: Freedom's Frontier is what all the presidents call the DMZ. All the presidents. And they all visit it. Idiot!!!!

                                                    #18.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

                                                    Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter?

                                                      #18.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                                                      I know your a lefty and a selfish little POS.

                                                      Idiot!!!!

                                                      TSHANNY, dlb98, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                                                      Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

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                                                      #18.4 - Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:34 PM EDT
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                                                      Imagine Obama wished he had a tank for his Michael Dukakis moment.

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                                                      Reply#19 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:07 AM EDT

                                                      A-hole. Dukakis served in the US Army for three years in Korea. He was qualified to drive a tank. The only people EVER to trash former service people were Republicans... They trashed Kerry, Dukakis and McCain.

                                                      Where did you serve Dip-s#!t that gives you the right to belittle Dukakis?

                                                      And then there was Bush whose daddy got him a cushy job guarding Texas in the National Guard!

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                                                      #19.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:30 AM EDT

                                                      Seriously, nobody has been more exploitative, denigrating, and backstabbing to military veterans than the Republican party. It truly is disgusting.

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                                                      #19.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:22 AM EDT

                                                      actually,grumpy,he wasn't qualified to drive a tank as he wasn't Armor Branch.And,he did look ridiculous sitting in the tank in that political ad.His campaign people screwed the pooch allowing that to be aired.

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                                                      #19.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

                                                      Thinker! I think not. Why don't you try reading a book, a real book, real history book.

                                                        #19.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:16 PM EDT
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                                                        The fact is that the American troops stationed in Korea are what we in the military call a "trip wire". We have removed our tactical nukes from Korea years ago. The force there is too small to defend, and likely too small to even slow, a North Korean invasion. As a "trip wire", they are there to die. That's right, we expect them to die (with great courage we hope), and that their deaths will spur the American people to support the longer war that would result. We can't afford the troops and money to properly defend all our commitments, so Korea gets a trip wire force. What's more, the troops know this. They are indeed some special Americans.

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                                                        Reply#20 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:11 AM EDT

                                                        I agree that they are tripwire forces. As in the North activates it, our troops over there explode, we are notified and send re-enforcements. By then ofcourse it will be too late, but, the alternative would be to have more troops there just waiting for an attack as in the N.K. gets the element of surprise which could cost more lives. We were fighting two wars, and N.K. just was not a high priority for the time. Heck the only reason it is a priority now is because Jong-Il died and now his son has to show power.

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                                                        #20.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:19 AM EDT

                                                        Serving three tours in the "Land of the Morning Calm" with the Div Cav out in the Western Corridor I realized the need to find the locations of the MRE caches throughout the ROK. The number of 28000 is very deceiving because there is very few Combat Arms troops there. 2ID has been downsized and pulled back from the Forward Camps and the Manuveur Units actually conducted operations in Iraq. The infiltration tunnels that the North built and continually builds are impressive from an Engineering perspective. Prior to the Wall in Germany being torn down, the News media was afixed on Germany despite the fact that international incidents were occuring along the "Z". Once the wall came down then the media started looking and acting as if these incidents just started to occur. The US Military CANNOT patrol any US Border, it is illegal and many need need to read the definition of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. BY the way US Forces only conduct field training exercises during the winter time frame because the rice paddies and fields are frozen and crops have not been planted. Unless you have been station there, unless you have visited the ROK you do not understand or truly understand the military situtaion. By the way those soldiers that are wearing MP brassards are not MPs they are Combat Arms Soldiers. The armistice does not allow for Combat Troops to be in the "Z" we get around this by calling them MPs.

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                                                        #20.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:16 AM EDT
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                                                        Comment author avatarRunnin on MTExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                        Trying to find his birth certificate will take a bigger set of binoculars

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                                                        Reply#21 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:11 AM EDT

                                                        G bush looked through the binoculars with the covers on. It's dark over there, don't they have lights?

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                                                        #21.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:23 AM EDT

                                                        He is trying to find an Etch a Skech. They are sold out over here. All the Teaturds had to have one.

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                                                        #21.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:27 AM EDT

                                                        And Clinton Kept saying "Monika, is that you Monika? What are you doing under his desk?"

                                                          #21.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:51 AM EDT

                                                          and trying to find the brains of the birthers will take a bigger microscope

                                                            #21.4 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:31 PM EDT
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                                                            I feel this president has done a remarkable job considering the circumstances. He is black. Many people take that as a negative. I feel it is a positive. Many people abroad view his election as a watershed event in American politics. I do as well. They feel that it is an affirmation of us as a true republic. The fact that any American regardless of color can rise to the highest office in the land proves to the world that we can "walk the walk". Proud to be an American. We all should be.

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                                                            Reply#22 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:15 AM EDT

                                                            Many in this forum do not share your view. I however do, but, not because of his race. I do because I believe he is a better candidate than his competitors.

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                                                            #22.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:24 AM EDT

                                                            The fact that any American regardless of color can rise to the highest office in the land proves to the world that we can "walk the walk".

                                                            Doesn't even require any qualifications.

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                                                            #22.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:34 AM EDT

                                                            The numerous comments in this blog make it apparent that many here in the states do not know the history of the peninsula. But I can only blame the News Media on that because it was only after the Wall coming down did Americans get news other then Stars and Stripes and AFN. So unless you have lived there, unless you have been born there or stationed there you have no idea what you are speaking of.

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                                                            #22.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:33 AM EDT

                                                            Lol, David , the only reason he is considered "black" is because he was born in this country and WE are dumb in this sense, think about it. If a white man fathers a child outside his race then that child is the mother's race, if any other man who is not white father's a child outside his race then that child is the race of the father. This was a JIM CROW that came about when slave masters fathered kids and they came out white but their mother was a slave or their grandmother. Whites said that if they could trace your heritage back 13 generations to another race then you were not pure and you were not white, this was the U.S. during those times, and for the most part the country stills buys this crap. The fact is , in most countries of the world you are either the race of your mother or your father , we are the only country who believes in something that was so stupid, as far as I'm concerned Obama is more white than he is black, believe me he is, to his credit he didn't buy into the Jim Crow law, he said he "chooses to be consider an African American" because he could go either way and most biracial people feel the same way. The rest of us just have to catch up.

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                                                            #22.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:49 AM EDT

                                                            The worst President in American history and you've been brainwashed to think he's "Great" how sad.

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                                                            #22.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

                                                            White middle aged women, proud american, proud of her president!!!!!

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                                                            #22.6 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

                                                            David, Talk about a racist comment! What in the world does color of one's skin have to do with being a good president?? That would be a mystery to all of us. I can imagine how this thread would "light up" if we had a current white president and someone said it's good that he's white and not black. You sir, are bad for this country and what it stands for...

                                                              #22.7 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:56 PM EDT
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                                                              Obama / Sharpton 2012 ....

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                                                              Reply#23 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:17 AM EDT

                                                              No, Big,

                                                              Newt and Rush 2012:

                                                              Their platform will be obesity, pills and polygamy.

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                                                              #23.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:25 AM EDT

                                                              cute little boy there....still playing with your pud?

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                                                              #23.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:28 AM EDT

                                                              David, are you a catholic priest? Interested in little boys?

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                                                              #23.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:37 AM EDT

                                                              Grumpy.

                                                              Exactly when did Rush for office?

                                                              Other than that: the false pretense, pushed by the (ideologically-defenseless) Left, is that Rush is somehow the "Spokesman" for Republicans...Er, um, see question #1

                                                              He's a guy with a radio show. He writes no bills and passes no laws.

                                                              ("group-think" is a trait of so-called Liberals)

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                                                              #23.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:24 AM EDT

                                                              Big, you are TRULY sick.

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                                                              #23.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:24 PM EDT
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                                                              The Commander in Chief is offering encouragement and appreaciation to the troops stationed at this God-forsaken outpost.

                                                              At lease he is not fiddling witth some dam% Etch a Sketch!

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                                                              Reply#24 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:22 AM EDT

                                                              Good one, Grumpy.

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                                                              #24.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:56 AM EDT
                                                              Comment author avatarniborExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                              Doesn't know what it is.

                                                                #24.2 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:35 AM EDT
                                                                Comment author avatarDiogenes22Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                                Grumpy. Wipe your chin.

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                                                                #24.3 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:28 AM EDT

                                                                No Grumpy, sad to see that you and buffalo are so brainwashed.

                                                                All Obama was there for was a Photo-op for his campaign ; "Look at me looking across the border at North Korea" what a waste of air . He's busy trying to "look" presidential, but all he is really is that sissy on the girls bike with a helmet on his head.

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                                                                #24.4 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

                                                                Obama's Etch-a-Sketch is a blank one. He has no clue.

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                                                                #24.5 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                                                                This dude is ALLLLLLL Bullsh*t. Alllllll the time.

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                                                                #24.6 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:54 AM EDT

                                                                Grumpy. Wipe your chin.

                                                                No Grumpy, sad to see that you and buffalo are so brainwashed.

                                                                Diogenes22, Englishlass, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                                                                Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

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                                                                #24.7 - Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:06 PM EDT
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                                                                Obama - Ozzy Osborne 2012

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                                                                Reply#25 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:23 AM EDT

                                                                Same thing isn't it?

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                                                                #25.1 - Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:38 AM EDT
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