The Unites States paid close to $50,000 in compensation for each Afghan killed in the shooting spree attributed to a U.S. soldier in southern Afghanistan...

Considering the senseless nature of the killings, one would have thought that the life of an Afghan would be worth more than $50,000; but at least it's a step in the right direction.

AP said we gave 50k each, Families and Afghan said families received 11k each...is my math really as bad as I think it is...SuperPac anonymous donation?? or some Afghan Government officials with a little more bling...

hmmm. ok, maybe it makes sense...that is about the same ratio that makes it to the needy here in America

Please do not lump all conservatives in that. Our troops deserve the best healthcare as they serve our country in ways that are beyond belief. The priests that rape children should be sent to prison to serve for their crimes. I am conservative in that I want the National Debt brought down, every person working able to have a home of their own, and that quality healthcare available for everyone. I pay more than my fair share in taxes and for all of my insurance.

I have just not agreed with the way President Obama has done certain things. He could have passed a budget his first year as President with a fully Democratic Congress, but delayed doing that well over a year. I respect the office of the Presidency and prayed for him when he won.

I hope that President Obama can resolve this mess without further bloodshed. I am a conservative that just wants our money spent wisely and our country to be the best again. I do not belong to any particlular party.

PheaNiques your maths isn't off, but your reading is. AP reports $50k per death cited by an Afghan council member. The same member also reported $11k to each person wounded. A community elder has confirmed the same numbers.

Health care had nothing to do with the murder of these Afghan civilians. Health Care reform has helped many many Americans get the medical coverage and the medical help they needed. Average Guy if you listened to less spin from Faux Media and the right you would know that or even if you had just Googled 'Who has Health Care Reform helped' you would realize how off base your comments are. As to this killing spree it had more to do with Sgt. Bales doing four tours in country the last one after severe head trauma. As to the money if they were members of my family no amount of money would be enough. Get your facts strait.

The Unites States paid close to $50,000 in compensation for each Afghan killed in the shooting spree attributed to a U.S. soldier in southern Afghanistan, a U.S. official told NBC News on Sunday.

A truly sad story. They probably would like to see their children again, instead of the money. However, a better gift would be to leave their country and let leave them ALONE, the way they want to live. A gift for both countries. -their country and ours-

Both countries are loosing children...Don't forget that the families of the American soldiers killed there, only get a folded flag...Most parents would gladly see their children instead. Medals and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee at the end. I see all sorts of medals for sell at flea markets.

While it may be a senseless shooting spree I wonder how much the Afghan people owe and are willing to pay all of the nations that participated in trying to liberate an oppressed and worn torn nation. I'm always amazed at how it is OK for former tyrants in Afghan can torture and kill their own people but when we have a lunatic go crazy the U.S. is portraid as an evil nation that "owes" everyone. I believe in the Afghan cause but I don't feel we "owe" the Afghan's any compensation especially making the victim's families wealthy overnight. I wonder how much the Afghan's paid the group of volunteer doctors that were murdered a year or two ago by Afghan thugs?

I will suggest that all who agree with "Average Guy" should stop complaining about what the government doesn't do and start collecting money as a group and donating to the health and wealth of those you feel need it. I'm not against our government assisting those in need but the pendulum has swung from being the land of opportunity to the land of welfare and I do have a problem with that.

the U.S. is portraid as an evil nation that "owes" everyone. I believe in the Afghan cause but I don't feel we "owe" the Afghan's any compensation especially making the victim's families wealthy overnight.

WOW! you call $50.000 wealthy? Agree! maybe in that country. An old lady here in the gool ol'US that sued McDonald's a while back got MILLIONS because she burnt her mouth drinking coffee, and there were no "warning labels"in the cup.

Could you please re-think your statement?

And these people likely will go terrorist. Bales shouldn't just be prosecuted for the Afghan lives he took but for the death and injuries that result at the base and other areas as retailiation for his actions. I wonder how many weapons and explosives 50k will buy?

$50,000 paid, $39,000 withheld for some transfer fee or admin fees, doc stamps, Afghan supply pipeline fee, transportation fee, Corzine defense fund fee, etc, leaves $11,000. Remember, the government is involved. Surprised that much was left.

Below Average Guy,

Money for u is meaningless. What matters is making these people whole. Only a conservative would worry about paying bills. All is good. Just print more. Everything will be ok. Now, hug a tree, save a whale and rejoice in your goodness.

You know AvArage Guy, your comments are really old and becoming abrasive. They solve nothing and are not accurate at all. To lump a huge group of people in a mold of your making does not work. Your "facts" are distorted as is, I suspect, your mind. The Health care issue and Obama are two separate issues. We have stated repeatedly what we disagree with in regards to the health care system. You choose not to listen or just disregard it. That's your choice but keep the facts straight. Not liking Obama has nothing to do with race although you and others like you continually insist that it does. Again you choose not to listen or disregard what we are saying. Again- keep the facts straight at least. My own family is interracial and the President is not popular with us at all. I am not an exception so get over it. You show a lot of yourself in your comments on Christians also. You know little and understand less. Either grow up or get some help, whichever will do you the most good. Your post is filled with hate and misunderstanding and that isn't good for you. Meanwhile God bless you and have a great day!

Average Guy

You are trying to blame conservatives who don't want Obamacare for this? Really? You have either been out of town for three years or listening to the propaganda from the Narwhal room data gathered on you for the last three years. Conservatives don't want Obamacare for the very reason that it is intended to put everyone on the government dependency list.

This poor soldier didn't get adequate health care because all the soldiers coming back from there have been denied proper benefits and this clown in the Whitehouse who said Obamacare would save everyone just pushed (before this shooting) to have the military personel pay more for the lousy medical care they and their families get. Thier insurance isn't worth a hoot unless they are on a military base and then for anything serious they are referred to a civilain doctor, often one who can't make a real practice so takes the government money and does a bad job for the people. OBAMA is the one who wants to cut the health care out from under the seniors and the military. MSNBC is right there with him in trying to continue his unconstititional demands by putting your rant first. A rant by the way which has absolutely nothing to do with reality and is just more race baiting to convince all black people they should vote for the color of his skin. Who is the racists? Then Obama pays a retribution to the Afghan families. Who is going to pay the families of the soldiers shot down in the thier own encampment by the Afghanies they were training to take care of themselves? People with this attitude are a good part of the reason this poor young man lost it.

What a racist statement.

Only a conservative would worry about paying bills. All is good. Just print more. Everything will be ok. Now, hug a tree, save a whale and rejoice in your goodness.

Wrong! Only a conservative would worry about paying bills that are OWED to other people, and while not paying for taxes, enjoy having services that are paid with taxes. AT the same time, they are the first ones in front of the welfare office when they need money., DEMANDING that they payed for that money.

Also, hugging a tree or a DOG would be 100000000 times nicer than hugging YOU.

I have one question for MSNBC. Where are your moniters first thing in the morning when the Obamanites are using foul language and post things that clearly are a violation of the posting policiess?

99% of the posts are clearly coming from the Narwhal room, designed to help Obama keep his Obamacare and blame the conservatives when SCOTUS shoots it down. Getting ready to cause more racial tensions in the process. The regular people need to get it straight. We conservatives don't give a hoot if Obama is black, white, green with yellow polka dots. He is the worst President we have had since FDR and to save our economy we need him sent home to Chicago where ignoring things like the Constitution is ok. The only one who has brought race into this administration from day one is Obama and his supporters. So, he is half black, who cares, get over it, he is also incompetent in that position.

IRESPOIND-2315268

Just what do you think Conservatives owe to other people and who are these people. Spell it out please!

 

Sonya Jones

Please do not lump all conservatives in that. Our troops deserve the best healthcare as they serve our country in ways that are beyond belief. The priests that rape children should be sent to prison to serve for their crimes. I am conservative in that I want the National Debt brought down, every person working able to have a home of their own, and that quality healthcare available for everyone. I pay more than my fair share in taxes and for all of my insurance.

I have just not agreed with the way President Obama has done certain things. He could have passed a budget his first year as President with a fully Democratic Congress, but delayed doing that well over a year. I respect the office of the Presidency and prayed for him when he won.

I hope that President Obama can resolve this mess without further bloodshed. I am a conservative that just wants our money spent wisely and our country to be the best again. I do not belong to any particlular party.

I am a liberal leaning independent, and strangely enough I want the same things for the people and soldiers of this country. As advanced as our country is, conservatives are trying to move us backwards. Sonya I think you are a liberal leaning person who is in the closet about it, come out, it is ok to be liberal. Wanting a fair chance, the ability to have job security, a home of your own, reasonable attainable, affordable health care(since we are the USA, state of the art as well), the freedoms our constitution and bill of rights grant us, a secure retirement after a lifetime of work, to be treated with respect at work and not be able to be fired for no good reason, protection from rabid, heartless, greedy, small minded, managers who always blame their shortcomings on underlings(in other words unions). These are all liberal values, it is ok, you are in the USA and you can have these opinions, even if you live in the bible belt.

IRESPOND-2315268

The only time you will see a conservative at a Welfare office is when the downfall of the economy caused by everyone must have a house, and the lunacy of spending since has cost them their job, their homes, thier dignity and they have no savings left to carry on and they have no family to help them out. Having relatives who work in those welfare offices I know all too well who is in the front of the line. Its not a matter of color, both white, black and all other colors show up with what we conservatives call the "welfare mentallity" that the government should hand them everything. An appology for telling the truth about Obama ain't gonna happen. Just why are you lumping yourself in with those you think we call leeches? Just curious. There is nothing more vicious than a dog one tries to take a bone away from. Even if they shouldn't have had that bone in the first place. And just for the record:

"Also, hugging a tree or a DOG would be 100000000 times nicer than hugging YOU."

Doesn't sound much like a peace loving liberal to me.

Antistupidity

Speaking of unions, it sure sounds like that one came from a Union Member or maybe a Union leader since many of the Union members are tired of paying money to be given to political causes that hurt rather than help our economy. If this administration keeps heading on the road they have started you won't have to worry about your rights under the Constitution, there won't be any when they wipe it out. Everything you say people should have, many of us worked for and did have before a house for everyone who could not pay brought us to this disaster we now face. Always blaiming someone else. Conservatives didn't hand out those loans. Conservatives didn't change the banking rules. George Bush tried to re-instate lending rules to banking to stop the bleeding that he saw coming and the DEMOCRAT controlled House and Senate prevented him from doing so. Liberals is a name the Socialist Progressives have adopted and we don't want any part of it.

Also, hugging a tree or a DOG would be 100000000 times nicer than hugging YOU."

Doesn't sound much like a peace loving liberal to me.

Of course not...You guys have no idea about what trees do, except when you cut them for lumber, or to make rooom for your Hummers.

Also, I do not fly with a flag of hypocrisy, like Conservatives. "Family Traditions" "Religion"

Peace-loving liberal does not mean dumb a**** idiot that goes around singing 60's songs. Get real

Our troops have been denied mental health care since the Civil War when the first signs of mental trauma in soldiers were documented. We didn't provide mental health care after WWI, WWII, Vietnam, either. This is not some new anti-Obama conspiracy. The politicians have won if they've convinced you it is.

The parts of the HCR law that are most often discussed deal with insurance coverage related to primary care. There are very few provisions related to mental health, dental health, preventative care, etc. The VA, a government run health care system for our veterans, has obviously failed our veterans in your opinion, especially as it relates to mental health. So I ask the OP, why in the world would you want that same government sticking its fingers into our health care?

When it comes to health care, especially the idea of nationalized healthcare, we should all be asking "WHAT are we paying for?" rather than "who is paying for it?" If you stop to think for yourself, rather than blindly following a party line, you'll see that neither side has come up with the right answer yet. Placing more importance on prevention and personalized medicine will lower health care costs significantly more than mandating insurance coverage will.

The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Sounds like the US government already found him guilty without a trial if they are paying out.

Remember when soldier Hasan killed the soldiers at Ft. Hood? Wonder how much each family was paid for their deaths?

The article states "and that they were told the money was from U.S. President Barack Obama."

Why exactly did POTUS want these family members of these unfortunate deceased Afghanis to be told that??? That the money came from Obama.

In Muslim culture responsible parties must pay death tribute, and the values for men and women differ under Shariah law. Also, who is paying is very significant. I am wondering how carefully all of this was thought out since it will have long-lasting impact in the memories of the Afghani people.

Average Idiots Quote ""Hitler and all the Nazi's and the entire German army were all right wing conservative Christians"

You buffoon, religion in Nazi Germany was banned you uneducated fool. Hitler was "God", there was no "conservative Christians" within the Nazi Party. Ignorance run amok.

Why are we there? What will we claim as success on departure? What is the mission? The government of afghanistan is so corrupt and only likes the money spilling out of the US tax payers pockets onto the soil of the country as it continues to race back into the stone age. If there was no money to steal from the US Taxpayer, we wouldn't have the faintest welcome or acceptance there. We are accomplishing nothing. When a Government goes to War, the objective is to win. We are not wining this and many other acts of the past. Wake up and let them destroy their country without our help.

"The amount reflects the extraordinarily devastating nature of the incident," he said.

Average annual income in Afghanistan is $425, according to the BBC.

If we are going to set this precedent...how much are we going to pay our dead soldiers families for giving their life for their country?

It is ridiculous to bring the health care issue for average Americans into this debate. And also ridiculous to state that Mr. Obama wants good healthcare for our military. Our military health care system has nothing to do with Obamacare. In fact Mr. Obama wants to cut healthcare for our military and veterans. This has been all over the news for the last month if anyone cares to read it. However, with knowledge of what happens with veterans I can tell you that any administration can and will influence the VA and the healthcare system. Case in point my husband a Vietnam vet who worked on helicopters had a 70% hearing loss. Which progressed over time. During the Clinton Administration he applied for disability so that he could obtain hearing aids. This was denied. When the evil Bush came into office there was a complete review of prior claims. He was granted a 10% disability which paid for the $6,000 hearing aids required.

The bottom line hear is if this soldier had PTSD he should never have been sent there. The current administration chooses not to recognize what should be hitting them in the face. A soldier suffering from PTSD is a liability. It is easier to the administration to not have it recognized since there are untold 1000's of soldiers facing the same thing. It will cost the country millions of dollars not only in treatment costs over the years but in medical disability for these soldiers. Unless you have served your country with multiple deployments in a war zone you cannot truly understand what is happening here. Bottom line is health care costs have gone up 169% since the passage of Obamacare. Again this is published common knowledge. Many of our brightest doctors have folded up shop and left for other countries due to the costs associated with Obamacare and it hasn't even been implemented yet.

Yes American's should have good health care the bottom line here is this country is bankrupt. Due to the sheer stupidity of various Administrations and the American people as a whole. No one told Americans to go out and buy homes over their budgets, however both the Carter administration and the Clinton Administration were responsible for directing the easing of loan requirements. No one told home owner's to use their homes like a visa card, but they did. We have a collective mentality of I want what I want...it is called greed. To model a healthcare system after the Canadians or the English is sheer folly. Their systems are not only going broke you wait sometimes six months or more to see a specialist and then wait for treatment. I guess the bottom line is they are hoping you will be dead. Many of them come to the U.S. for treatment because they cannot wait for their own system which they pay into to work for them.

How much should I expect to be paid for dealing with the stress of this bad economy?

Amen! You hit it on the nose Shaking my head.

"AVARAGE GUY"...

It is rather sad to separatists like you begin so early on a sunday morning.

Almost everybody can agree that Stalin and Hitler were extremely authoritarian, more so than any prominent figures in modern Western politics. It is not a statement about left or right, liberal or conservative, so much as a statement about their concentration and of the power of the policy in their own governments and in their own dogma.

Can You as a human admit when you are wrong...NOW would be a good time to come to the table with truth!

By the way, just an observation, but the first stone once again cast by the left!!!! (by his or her own admission!)

Families are reporting that they were told (when given the money) that, "This is from President Obama." We pay the taxes and he gives it away and takes the credit....

Families are reporting that they were told (when given the money) that, "This is from President Obama." We pay the taxes and he gives it away and takes the credit....

How is that different from George W. Bush taking pictures in "uniform"in front of the Iraqui troops and saying: "Mission Accomplished" He took credit for combat. That is worse BS

Mr.PheaNiques: "MAP said we gave 50k each, Families and Afghan said families received 11k each...is my math really as bad as I think it is...SuperPac anonymous donation?? or some Afghan Government officials with a little more bling..."

Okay. Here's your lesson in reading comprehension. The families of the DECEASED victims received $50,000 for each victim killed. The families of the INJURED recieved $11,000 per each injured victim. Understand now?

Liberals is a name the Socialist Progressives have adopted and we don't want any part of it.

Conservative is a name the Republican oppressors have adopted and we want no part of it.

The only time you will see a conservative at a Welfare office is when the downfall of the economy caused by everyone must have a house, and the lunacy of spending since has cost them their job, their homes, thier dignity and they have no savings left to carry on and they have no family to help them out.

Really? I have yet to hear of a single Conservative who turned down a "government handout." No one is a Conservative where their own unemployment check or insurance or food stamps or Federal job is concerned. It's only when other people are in need that some people turn suddenly fiscally prudent.

The reason government exists is to try and ease the burdens, collectively, that we are not able to shoulder individually. The government is not some faceless entity in a dark tower. The government is you. We live in a democracy, and yes, we do have a lot of corruption and senseless behavior but this is still ours and we are the ones who benefit from it and we are the ones who are responsible for it.

A Liberal is just a Conservative who can see beyond his next tax return.

Giving the Afghan families money, sets a very bad precedent.

Now ALL Afghan families will demand money for their loved ones who are killed.

This will further enhance them to engage in trying to be killed, therefore "Blackmailing" the United States Government. I can just see Karzai/Taliban now to further their cause against us---more benefits from the US; while our Soldiers are dying as well to protect them.

Now we know for sure how much the life of an Afghan is worth for us.

What a collection of stupid, vapid, and insipid attack comments against conservatives! Do you revel in your ignorance. Let's start with Hitler & the Nazi party: Nazi, dear ignorant ones, stood for the National Socialist German Workers Party. Sounds pretty liberal to me. And they took the liberal eugenics movement of the early 1900s to a new level, didn't they. You no doubt think Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, and Mao were all conservatives as well, as they attempted to fashion utopia here on earth.

Now on to the wars. How dishonest to brand conservatives as "war mongers". Tell that to the 50K who died in Kennedy/Johnson's Vietnam war, or the 36K deaths in Truman's Korean War. Of course, your liberal revisionist history will keep you ignorant of Wilson's WWI deaths of 14K US troops. I'll withhold Roosevelt's entry into WWII since I believe that one was justified. Clinton authorized force in Somalia, Yugoslavia (Kosovo), and a 4 day bombing of Iraq. One could reasonably argue Clinton should have intervened militarily in Rwanda to try to save about a million lives from being slaughtered.

So you can plainly see, it's those d**n liberals that cause most of the trouble. It was Democrats that started the KKK, it was Democrats that passed poll taxes to keep blacks from voting, it was the Democrats that involved the US in more wars that resulted in the most American soldiers deaths...by a huge margin. And it's the Democrats that revise history, duped Americans such as yourself into believing lies and distortions. Just like their liberal counterparts in Communist dictatorships practiced. You want to know how murders like Stalin and Mao come to power and stay in power? Look in a mirror, look at the liberal media parsing and revising the news, look at the socialistic tendencies in this country to justify stripping individuals of responsibility, look at the division and hateful rhetoric being fanned by the POTUS and his administration, look at the lawyer politicians redefining what the definition of is is. Most of the LeftyLibDems haven't a clue where this country has been or where it's going.

Hello folks, Whatever they paid is a small price compared to the profits they are making in Afghanistan. This is why I think we are still in Afghanistan. Since the British East India Trading Company in the 1600's the India Afghanistan area have always been the largest suppliers of Opium which has carried on today and is a multi-billion dollar business. In 2000 the Taliban had taken over and created a law that stopped the growing of poppies all the while storing vast quantities of Opium in warehouses to increase the price. Well that didn't sit well with the powers who previously controlled the opium trade. In 2001 we went to war with Afghanistan and we will be hard pressed to give back these enormous profits back to the control of the Taliban. If America was anti-drug we would have destroyed the poppy fields, we haven't!

Here is a snippet of an article on the war on drugs:

The “War On Drugs” Is A $2.5 Trillion Racket: How Big Banks, Private Military Companies And The Prison Industry Cash In

News // Jul 11 2011

By David DeGraw – AmpedStatus Report

For a further understanding of how the War on Drugs is deeply intertwined with the War on Terror, the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan has led to an explosive increase in drug trade profits:

Afghanistan as a Drug War

“From a modest 185 tons at the start of American intervention in 2001, Afghanistan now produced 8,200 tons of opium, a remarkable 53 percent of the country’s GDP and 93 percent of global heroin supply.

In this way, Afghanistan became the world’s first true ‘narco-state.’ If a cocaine traffic that provided just 3 percent of Colombia’s GDP could bring in its wake endless violence and powerful cartels capable of corrupting that country’s government, then we can only imagine the consequences of Afghanistan’s dependence on opium for more than 50 percent of its entire economy.

At a drug conference in Kabul this month, the head of Russia’s Federal Narcotics Service estimated the value of Afghanistan’s current opium crop at $65 billion. Only $500 million of that vast sum goes to Afghanistan’s farmers, $300 million to the Taliban guerrillas, and the $64 billion balance ‘to the drug mafia,’ leaving ample funds to corrupt the Karzai government in a nation whose total GDP is only $10 billion.”

We all know how our govenment support drug cartels & leave our borders wide open for their delivery & our president believes in aiding & abetting invaders of the US. His apologies & support of our nations enemies did to stop.

Hello, DKJ4, It's both parties that have supported the drug cartels. Our political system has turned into a two headed one party system serving their masters the banksters/Federal Reserve and Wall Street. Our government is nothing more than a bunch of puppets who are manipulated by the money changers. They try to keep you in fear, divided, and distracted so that they can continue their theft and manipulation.

Are the Aflecgan going to give money to the AMERICAN soldiers that died for them

Steve D-514317 is my hero. Mr. RightNow, Obama says he is a Christian and I believe him just about as much as Hitler. NAZI= National German Socialist Worker's Party. hmmm...Socialist...right there in the name....oh..Worker's Party...Like a Union?.. As far as your "access to immediate information so you can't be duped"...tell me, is the world going to end on December 21st, 2012? I can find literally THOUSANDS of informational websites both for and against it. Wikipedia says that NAZI's were right wing conservatives...Wikipedia is one of THE MOST LIBERAL organizations on the face of the planet. In fact, I corrected that page on Wiki and gave about 50 references to back me up...They removed my corrections and Banned me from Wikipedia. Your argument states that liberals cannot be Christian? For most political organizations, Politicians and militias, Religion is a tool they use to feign commonality with the people they are trying to control and build a rapport among the people to assist and allow genocide of groups and sects "not like them". Every politician does it and will keep on doing it. You don't think Obama's "Black Southern Baptist" comes out in the proper setting? I've seen his turban and Pajamas come out on several occasions. Most of you people are sheep that can't see beyond your own nose because your heads up your own AR$E. The FACTS are that the KKK was the racist Democrats answer to the REPUBLICAN President Lincoln's proposed 13th, 14th and 15th admendments to the Constitution. Even REPUBLICAN Martin Luther King, Jr. new the truth. The KKK was eventually abandoned by the DNC because it failed SO the DNC decided the best way to control the Black and Low income population was to make them dependant on Social Programs. All a politician has to do is run on the Democratic ticket and he automatically gets the Black vote. THAT WORKED and continues to work to this day. They lump them up together in housing projects, send them a few bucks each month and make sure real education doesn't spread like an epidemic. (Obama's repeal of the no child left behind act). Now, we make the tests and school work easier and easier so THEY ALL "grajuate". Republicans want nothing more than for YOU TO GET A JOB. Conservatism is all about personal responsibility. I am responsible for ME and MY FAMILY. I work hard...I get ahead. I hardly work...I go nowhere. Most of you liberals haven't even read the Constitution. Look at it like antibiotics. Years and Years of pointless overuse of antibiotics has created a very serious problem. Superbugs. You are a superbug. Today's youth want everything for free and never to have to worry about anything. Well, the world don't work that way and never will. Show me ONE Socialist Utopia and I will gladly kiss your butt and apologize. The closest thing this world has ever seen to a utopia WAS the United States of America for about 150 years. Capitalism built that by the way. With every Bailout, welfare check, food stamp card and "useless government regulation" Capitalism takes another blow and she is nearly dead now. The fair housing Act by the Great Democrat Jimmy Carter (used to be the worst President ever) got the ball rolling with mandating home loans to unqualified people and it has been snowballing ever since. People used to have selfrespect, pride, honor, guts and intelligence. Now we have mostly needy, whining, ignorant morons with over blown since of entitlement. Oh, by the way, I used to be a liberal. Until I started reading and paying attention to what was REALLY going on in the world around me. I am not saying that republicans are awesome people. but they are deffinately the lesser of two evils.

Yea, when peoples countries are invaded they always pay the invading soldiers money because they are so grateful.

The French gave all the Nazi's new hats...

That’s GREAT. We pay people in a war zone. If we did that for all the
worlds wars we (USA) we involved in we would not have a country. What the hell?
I am just looking to pay my bills...........

This is the attitude that makes the world hate us. We invade a country, they dont want us there, and we ask them to pay for our soldiers killed. Do you equate with the children that this idiot killed, innoncents sleeping and he invades their home and kills them? Show some humanity.

Now we know how much an Afghan life is worth - $50,000. Don't expect ANY sentence to Monster Bales. This is sick.

alright, fair enough. i'll rephrase. afganistan should pay $50,000 for every victim of 9/11.

Life means nothing to Afghans, they will take blood money and not think twice. Anyone who knows anything about the people of afghanistan knows that. They believe their entire existence is for their religion. Burning a koran is worse that killing 10,000 afghan children. I say, since we paid the blood money, drop the charges against Bales, clearly the afghans have.

afganistan should pay $50,000 for every victim of 9/11.

Actually that could have been a possibility if we had gone AFTER Osama Bin Ladden after the terrorist attacks, considering he immediately took credit for those attacks, and he was a wealthy man.

Instead, we WAISTED trillions of dollars going after Sadam Hussein on a personal vendetta of George W. Bush. By the time Osama Bin Laden was caught, he was penniless.

SUEg64

We just invade their country? Really? When that is were Bin Laden and his crew worked from when 911 happened. Or should we just have asked Afghanistan for $50.000.00 for each of the over 3000 killed that day and let it go at that? Where is the logic in you people? Rantings here say they will become terrorists. HELLO, that is why we went their to clean out the terrorists. HELLO, what planet have all you pro Obama posters been on for the last 10 years?

HELLO, that is why we went their to clean out the terrorists. HELLO, what planet have all you pro Obama posters been on for the last 10 years?

We have been here, just like you. Instead, you should have just joined the ARMY, given the fact that you are so "patriotic"

The people of Afghanistan are not the terrorists. It like saying that we are all Timothy McVeigh just because we are Americans

Recently several Americans were killed in Afghanistan over the burning of WORTHLESS paper. How much was the US paid for their deaths?

(I say "worthless" because the Korans were already violated by their own prisoners in their own jails. By their own clerics, keepers and believers, they had been deemed defiled and should be destroyed. All the rest of the Afghanis' supposed indignation was nothing but hate speech and spin.)

Again how much were we paid for those murders?

We need to get out of that cesspool of Afghanistan and shake their dirt off our feet on the way out. Afghanistan and Pakistan harbored the vile creature OBL, and we were absolutely correct to go after him and destroy him. However, the job is done. It's time to go.

Damn! Looks like the Saudis and the Taliban owe the US a few billion.

We wouldn't even be in Afghanistan were it not for 911, and the open terrorist training camps facilitated by the Taliban. By the way, the invasion was a rospnse to protect civilians, aircraft, and monumental architecture from Islamofascist terrorism, for all those who have 5 minute memories.

I think we should leave and give the Muslim world the opportunity to fix Afghanistan and Pakistan. There will be no more terrorist attacks inspired by the holy Koran, of this I am sure. There's not much reputation left for Islam, and they need to do everything they can to protect it.

In many cultures giving money for a service or as a liability is very offensive. I do not understand how a man born in Hawaii, raised in Thailand(a very religious culture) and, whose father was from Kenya can be part of this. Afterall, he is the head of the Armed Forces.

A little primer for those who think "We wouldn't even be in Afghanistan were it not for 911".

US involvement and direct interference in Afghanistan goes back to 80s when US was concerned about Soviet influence in Afghanistan. To reduce soviet influence the US backed Taliban/Al Qaida with the help of Pakistan who used Pakistan as base but operated in Afghanistan. Some of these operatives attacked WTC as part of 911 plot.

So how it is Afghanistan or its people's fault?

Average Guy, how about a learning lesson for your uneducated self,

Hitler could not attack Christianity as openly as he did Judaism, communism or other political opponents.^[73] The list of Nazi affronts to and attacks on the Catholic Church is long.^[74] The attacks tended not to be overt, but were still dangerous; believers were made to feel that they were not good Germans and their leaders were painted as treasonous and contemptible.^[74] The state removed crucifixes from the walls of Catholic classrooms and replaced it with a photo of the Führer.^[75]

Average Idiots Quote ""Hitler and all the Nazi's and the entire German army were all right wing conservative Christians"

You buffoon, religion in Nazi Germany was banned you uneducated fool. The Fuhrer was "God", there was no "conservative Christians" within the Nazi Party. Ignorance run amok.

Can we expect Mexico to pay when an illegal murders an American citizen?

I hope this was a well thought out response by the State Department "and that they were told the money was from U.S. President Barack Obama."

At least we know that he isn't buying votes this time.

If only Obama would take this money from his salary or his campaign war-chest rather than the American taxpayer.

Below Avarage Guy

That’s GREAT. We pay people in a war zone. If we did that for all the worlds wars we (USA) we involved in we would not have a country. What the hell?

It's in a war zone but this wasn't war. It wasn't even an accidental civilian casualty. This was murder. Maybe if we WERE required to pay restitution for "deaths that occurred while committing war", like the felony law, we'd think twice before acting like a bunch of f*cking cowboys.

Kornfed

Can we expect Mexico to pay when an illegal murders an American citizen?

Lame. Restitution is possible when ANYONE murders an American citizen. You have a better idea for the families or you just posting your usual unrelated false drivel?

ileana

In many cultures giving money for a service or as a liability is very offensive. I do not understand how a man born in Hawaii, raised in Thailand(a very religious culture) and, whose father was from Kenya can be part of this. Afterall, he is the head of the Armed Forces.

And it's REALLY f*cking offensive to kill families and children outright and burn their bodies.

He's doing all he can to keep this from blowing up directly in the faces of our "kids" in the armed forces over there.

You have a better idea?

JCB, you may want to recind some of your comments and do a quick fact check. Hitler was born, raised, and died Catholic. He modeled Nazi ideology after a "Positive Christianity" free of Judiasim and Islam with an aryan Jesus at the head. He publicly affirmed his belief in Christianity in Mein Kampf and in public speeches.

What you may be referring to, are personal conversations between Hitler and his inner circle which seemed to contradict his public comments related to Christianity. Keep in mind Hitler was an insane lunatic, you cannot exactly count on him to make logical sense all the time. He used whatever rhetoric he could to get people to do what he wanted, that includes twisting reality and distorting information within his inner circle. In the end, it was his actions which spoke much louder than his words.

We obviously need a new Department of Misery added to our big fat ass friend, the Federal Government. They could pass out misery tokens based on the level of hardship of each citizen...not just of the US, but the world. This department could set values of misery...a misery index.

People of the world must not suffer indignities not of their choosing!

Someone commented that we should be paid by the Afghans for every American soldier killed. Fact is we shouldn't even be there. It has been our own absolutely idiotic foreign policy that is based on arrogance and oil that has led to this tragedy and many more. As Ron Paul has said many times, we need to mind our own d*&m business? Is this simple statement starting to make sense to anybody??

He's doing all he can to keep this from blowing up directly in the faces of our "kids" in the armed forces over there.

You have a better idea?

I propose that we give each citizen of Afghanistan 50,000. Yes, I think that is an even better idea for the safety of our troops!

leave that crap hole...it's their country...

Lame. Restitution is possible when ANYONE murders an American citizen. You have a better idea for the families or you just posting your usual unrelated false drivel?

Unrelated? Do you know what that word means? How can an opinion be false?

I have nothing to say about the compensation paid to the Afghans who lost entire families due to the hands of a murderer. Bales was not acting as a U.S. soldier when he slaughtered those people.

But I wish the U.S. Govt would respond fairly all the way around. NO human being should be permitted to redeploy consecutively in high risk killing zones. No soldier should be victimized by banks while serving their country and foreclosed on. Injured soldiers should be taken care of and given the benefits they deserve. They shouldn't have to beg for care and be reduced to standing on corners holding cardboard signs asking for food money.

Agha Lalai told the AP that each wounded person has received $11,000 and that they were told the money was from U.S. President Barack Obama. Community elder Jan Agha has confirmed the same figures

I appreciate the fact that a reparations gesture has been made, but I am a little sceptical that payment actually was paid from our President's personal pocket.

The way that Soldiers, Marines, Airmen and Naval personnel are being shuttled back and forth among these "conflicts" that we are now involved is unprecedented. Even in World War II, even though most were in for the duration, you could get rotated back "to the world" after amassing "points". In my time (with the caveat that this country also had a draft in place) it was 364 and a wake up, unless you voluntarily extended your tour. I speak from experience not only from "back in the day" but also due to the fact that I have a son and son-in-law(a SGT and SSG respectively) PROUDLY SERVING in the US Army as we speak. Son was sent to Iraq just as deployments were increased to 15 months, back for 12 and re-deployed to Afghanistan for another 12, while son-in-law was in Iraq for 12 home 12 and back to Iraq for 15 with his brother-in-law (same unit). Only becoming a Drill Sgt, which I am sure my daughter had more than a little input, did he miss Afghanistan with my son's unit. We were hoping that this exercise in futility in Afghanistan were winding down due to the fact that he is now back with his unit (Drill assignments are limited to 2 yrs.) and there are whispers that they may both be deployed again this summer.

Being the beacon of democracy, I feel the United States should provide aid and support to any nation wishing to share in the rights and freedoms WE take for granted daily. But, I can say first hand how frustrating it is to be dropped into a situation where you have no idea who is on your side and who is not. It is obvious that the "hearts and minds" aspect is totally out the window, so bringing our conventional battle weary troops home from what is looking to be our second Vietnam (should have learned from the Russians) and make use of our military advisors to train the Afghan people to help themselves IF our presence is even wanted anymore.

Finally and update @ 30 minutes ago:

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- The United States gave $860,000 to the families of people in Afghanistan killed or wounded in a shooting rampage that is being blamed on U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, two Afghan officials said Sunday.

Did it not state that money was from President Obama????????????????????????

With all due respect Mr. President, as of yet, the Afghan people cannot vote in the election this November.

IRESPOND,

Um, didn't Bin Laden get whacked under Obama? Yeah.... take your pro-Obama nonsense and shove it. If we didn't have that giant war, we would have had enough money reserved to aid in the economic catastrophe that BUSH led us into. Stop being ignorant.

...amount was "significant" and "substantial."

Hardly. I would imagine having the children back is what they want. And making sure the lawyers don't drag this out would be a good thing to do.

But we all know this won't happen.

Um, didn't Bin Laden get whacked under Obama? Yeah.... take your pro-Obama nonsense and shove it. If we didn't have that giant war, we would have had enough money reserved to aid in the economic catastrophe that BUSH led us into. Stop being ignorant

Need some more coffee? Your comment has no head or feet...

The first two sentences of this article are in direct conflict with one another:

"The United States paid close to $50,000 in compensation for each Afghan killed in the shooting spree attributed to a U.S. soldier in southern Afghanistan, a U.S. official told NBC News on Sunday.

The official, who asked not to be named, would not say exactly how much was paid to the families, but added the amount was 'significant' and 'substantial'."

I have to question the motive of such obscure reporting ... I question whether this article conveys truth or conjecture. Was this information volunteered by the anonymous interviewee or gleaned from a journalist's convoluted question?

The families were told the money was coming from 'President Obama'??? Didn't that money belong to us...American citizens? I don't recall anyone asking me if it was okay to give away any money. Or did Obummer take it out of his personal stash? All he does is kiss up. What was he thinking? Not about us, that's for sure. No one paid for the thousands killed on American soil on 9/11. Anyway it's ludicrous, giving American money to them is roughly equivilant to the ATF giving firearms to Mexican drug dealers: it'll only come back to haunt us...probably be used to buy bombs or something. Why didn't he just promise them that he would talk to Allah and see to it that they got some virgins in heaven or something like that.

There are well-intentioned intelligent people on both sides of the pliticla spectrum. I have two highly intelligent Conbservative brothers with whom I enjoy discussing political issues. THey have both been formed and informed by their life experiences. WHat I find repugnant is the unarticulated noise from both sides e.g. somebody standing on a podium screaming, We want Freeedom! not Health Care.!" As a recent cancer diagnosee I want Health Care and have been receiving great Health Care through Medicaid. THe Ideolgoues fail to see there are reall consequences for real people for their ideological blather. GIven that my life is on th line I have no doubt that I will be voting Democratic in 2012. It's the only sensible choice for someone who needs - or might need Health Care.

too late you will f****g pay it, just keep your money .

Kornfed

Unrelated? Do you know what that word means? How can an opinion be false?

When we have troops in our employ and one of those troops, while in our employ and using weapons we provided, does a purposeful illegal and horrific act against innocent people, we must at least ACT like we have some responsibility, even if you feel we have none. And when this creates an untenable situation, we should take what ever action is necessary to calm things down... in this case to protect our troops and salvage the war if at all possible.

This, as opposed to dismissing it and likening it to an illegal murdering a U.S. citizen with a "flip" and "false straw-man" comment.

Illegals are not in anyone's "employ", they are not technically "at war". It is a completely different situation... in other words, it's UNRELATED... NOT related to the matter at hand.

False opinion... a "straw man"... making false comparisons to make a false-point... trying to dismiss an event using an UNRELATED straw-man argument... one that only serves to confuse using other's emotions or otherwise UNRELATED events... a comment that draws the only logical reaction of "huh?".

JonSmith93903: "Life means nothing to Afghans, they will take blood money and not think twice. Anyone who knows anything about the people of afghanistan knows that. They believe their entire existence is for their religion. Burning a koran is worse that killing 10,000 afghan children. I say, since we paid the blood money, drop the charges against Bales, clearly the afghans have."

I am continually appalled at the hatred being spewed by people on these forums. "Life means nothing to Afghans"? What a horrible mind set! The families of the dead are in mourning. Their spouses and children have been murdered. They cry and ache just like anyone would. The sad thing is that too many Afghanis would think the same of the US, especially after this wholesale slaughter of innocent Afghan citizens. "Life means nothing the the Americans. They have no respect for human life and would kill tens of thousands just to show they can!" If you don't know the people ... I mean really know them ... you cannot be honest and make a blanket statement condemning all of the people.

"... they will take blood money and not think twice. Anyone who knows anything about the people of afghanistan knows that."

Do you actually know any Afghanis? If you did, you would know they are, generally speaking, generous, compassionate people. They laugh and play games and love their families. The minority who wreak terror across their own nation and the globe are not the norm for the nation. Yes, the people of Afghanistan do believe in God and the teachings of their Bible. They hold the Q'ran as sacred and, in putting it down on paper, it is the very word of God, not a replication thereof. (Many Jewish sects are forbidden from even writing the word God down lest that paper on which it is written be lost and fall into dirt or be stepped on, thereby desecrating God.) The Afghani people do not have the level of sophisticated society we in America enjoy. Their social mindset is alarmingly different from our own and many Americans seem to view that as proof they are inferior. They are not. They are only different and they see the world differently. That does not make them wrong any more than people in America with differing opinions are wrong (That, of course, is regularly contested by people on both sides of the political spectrum). Your blanket racist remarks illustrate just the mind set that, throughout our history, has led this nation in all the wrong directions. A blanket stereotype of an entire nation based on marginal knowledge of that nation is ignorance at its worst.

And yet, Jon, you believe charges should be dropped against the butcher of Kandahar because his victims' families have received some pittance in small repayment for their losses. Suppose someone gunned down someone you love? The one person closest to your heart? Just how much money would you accept to drop all charges against that killer? $50,000? $5 million? $500 million? Somewhere in the middle? And then we can drop all charges because, after all, you've gotten paid for your loss, right?

The ignorance and hate motivating the kind of hatred you embrace is what should be dropped. The man who killed these innocent people should be made to face his accusers. He will not. Lacking that, he should most certainly be made to accept and pay for his actions. A life sentence for each count of pre-meditated murder (His actions were not committed in one burst of emotion but spread out over several hours and across two villages. They were, indeed, pre-meditated) would be too good for him. He would be allowed to live while the hopes and dreams and futures of all of those children he butchered died with his heinous acts. His victims who survive will be scarred for life, some physically, all of them emotionally. And the families of those who died will mourn forever the loss of their loved ones.

Drop the charges? No.

Who said they could use my tax dollars to invade that country when most of the terrorists of 9/11 were Saudis? Who said they could use my tax dollars to invade Iraq and liberate those people? 50,000 per life vs trillions spent on two wars when OBL was in Pakistan all along. Was that our mission to hunt down OBL? Why are we still there? Why the hell is a guy like bales taking my tax money to fight in these wars when he was a fraud before he joined the army. There is obviously alot of flaws to your argument, but, it seems your takinging out on the unarmed women and children when you should be taking it out on our politicians. Not Obama per se.

it's not an insult in afghanistan, they call it blood money, and even cold blooded murder is forgivable there with blood money.

especially since most of the dead were female and we know what female life is worth to muslims..im calling crocodile tears. oh they are so devestaed now, at least until any female survivors look sideways in a way they dont like then they just set them on fire, stone them to death, throw acid on them.

Bring back the draft andn require all Americans who are fit to spend three years after graduation from high school (if not going on to college) or after four years and graduation from college, doing public service. Peace Corps but preferabley dooming something to help the underclass and sick people in America. Serving in the Army if necessary, and doiing charitable work for social service and justice agencies, getting an education on how other people live. That's what's been lacking ever since we stopped the draft and relied on an all-volunteer (mercenary as soome would put it) Army, which frankly has a lot of undesirable people who couldn't get a civilian or other job, in it. By making ordinary and every American subject to a military draft we can get a better quality of individual, one who is not just enlisting to keep a roof over his head and food on his table. It didn't hurt our fathers and grandfathers who fought in WWII and it made htem acquire a stake in America, instead of "letting the other guy do it."

Umm Pheno....it was a DEMOCRATIC Congress that ordered the US involved...and gave their permission to spend your money.

50k for a life anywhere is an insult. but who made the call on this to spend our tax dollars to give to a country that wants you and me dead.

50k is an insult for an American Lawyer, you are correct. If those people were here, they would be getting MILLIONS for a wrongful death suit.

The victims were not terrorists. I am sure that you would rather have Paul Ryan give it to Big Oil in subsidies, since they need it so much..right? Because that is exactly what is happening. All of you are yaping away because we gave the victims 50,000..and that SOB Paul Ryan is spending your "hard earned cash "in subsidies for big oil..

The stupidity

The end of the world can't come soon enough.

I am sick and I am tired of the government, of democrats, of republicans, of war, of racists, of wall street, of murderers, of rapists, of thieves, of child molesters, of laziness, of the lack of personal responsibility, of whining government hand-out cry babies, of class warfare, of lawyers, of court systems gone bad, of the voice of one controlling the voices of the many, of the God haters, of the Middle East, of bad cops, of corruption, but especially of the human beings in America who just stand by and watch and do nothing while our God given freedoms are removed one by one while posting their hate, vile and vitriol on a comment board on the Internet.

Aren't you all tired, aren't you worn out? The earth is such an evil place and the beings that inhabit it make it that way.

@ileana--not this culture, where monetary renumeration for injury helps keep the peace, stops feuds, etc. Learn about what you're talking about.

The democrats didn't take full control of congress until 2008.

I love how when a liberal president is in office everything from all of history is obviously all their fault according to the tea party, when a republican president is in office they have no responsibility in anything they do or sign.

Stupid conservative hypocrites thumping their bibles in the Christian taliban movement to deny me my rights. I seriously hate you all.

@ phenomenal112.... Don't assume i think we should be there. don't assume i think we should be in iraq. Don't assume i agree with Bush. And most importantly don't assume that i agree with almost anything our government has done for the past 20 years.... on top of all of that, everyone who thinks that there is only blue and red out there you can just plain stop being asses like phenomenal112 who is obtuse and assumes everyone is one sided. I make no such assumption. we shouldn't be in any of these wars right now jack. we should be defending the United States of American instead of letting our government sell it to the highest bidder... Nice ASSumption. phenom

"We don't have a particularly bloodthirsty military justice program," said Eugene Fidell, the co-founder of the National Institute of Military Justice

F_cking Hypocrites!! What a BAD message this sends to the world!!

Bales to get 20-to-life while the Ft Hood killer gets DEATH (military seeking DEATH) and McVeigh gets DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the killing of innocent Afghan women and children in their sleep isn't as bad, huh???????? (iow you're saying an Afghan life is not as important as a U.S life, huh?)

THIS is SO F-KED up - GET US OUT OF THIS CRAPHOLE D_CKHEADS!!!!!!

Check out Marine Lance Cpl. Edward J. Dycus. The news is following an agenda to convince people the afghanis are innocent victims.

That seems to be the new philosophy, ops sorry, here's some money now get out of here, I got work to do. If this happened in America it would be a make work project for at least five dozen lawyers for the next ten years and the victims would get the leftovers.

Really - Lil Debbie bring back the draft because the miiltary is full of undesireable and individuals who wouldn't have a job other wise. What an insult to all of us who decide to service because we believe in this country not because we're undesireables. Yes, let bring back the draft so I can service with individuals who want no part of wearing a uniform it work so well in Vietnam. If they do bring back the draft I hope your the first person that call to duty. I'll bet money you couldn't make it through basic training!

In actuallity, we did not invade Afghanistan. Our presence in Afghanistan was well established during the late 70s to early 80s. We never left and that is exactly what caused this entire mess to begin with. We should have left when we were asked to leave in the mid 80s.

This money was not to pay for the deaths and assaults on the survivors, but more to pay for the loss of income. That the brass chose to say the pay out was from the President was more of a pr approach than the wording from the President himself. They are trying to make amends with these Afghani's in hopes of making it a little bit easier and much more safer for our soldiers until we have them out of that country.

USA/CANUC do some investigation it was GW who fabricated all the evidence that the congress voter on.

Paying $50,000.00 to the Afghan families sets a bad Precedent in War.

Now the Afghans who have had loved ones killed, will Blackmail the US Government to always pay for each person who is dead. It could be the Taliban, other Terrorist Groups to further their cause.

Karzai who is corrupt, will see this as an opportunity to further his bank account.

$50,000.00 in Afghanistan is like 3 Trillion dollars there.

Hello folks, Whatever they paid is a small price compared to the profits they are making in Afghanistan. This is why I think we are still in Afghanistan. Since the British East India Trading Company in the 1600's the India Afghanistan area have always been the largest suppliers of Opium which has carried on today and is a multi-billion dollar business. In 2000 the Taliban had taken over and created a law that stopped the growing of poppies all the while storing vast quantities of Opium in warehouses to increase the price. Well that didn't sit well with the powers who previously controlled the opium trade. In 2001 we went to war with Afghanistan and we will be hard pressed to give back these enormous profits back to the control of the Taliban. If America was anti-drug we would have destroyed the poppy fields, we haven't!

Here is a snippet of an article on the war on drugs:

The “War On Drugs” Is A $2.5 Trillion Racket: How Big Banks, Private Military Companies And The Prison Industry Cash In

News // Jul 11 2011

By David DeGraw – AmpedStatus Report

For a further understanding of how the War on Drugs is deeply intertwined with the War on Terror, the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan has led to an explosive increase in drug trade profits:

Afghanistan as a Drug War

“From a modest 185 tons at the start of American intervention in 2001, Afghanistan now produced 8,200 tons of opium, a remarkable 53 percent of the country’s GDP and 93 percent of global heroin supply.

In this way, Afghanistan became the world’s first true ‘narco-state.’ If a cocaine traffic that provided just 3 percent of Colombia’s GDP could bring in its wake endless violence and powerful cartels capable of corrupting that country’s government, then we can only imagine the consequences of Afghanistan’s dependence on opium for more than 50 percent of its entire economy.

At a drug conference in Kabul this month, the head of Russia’s Federal Narcotics Service estimated the value of Afghanistan’s current opium crop at $65 billion. Only $500 million of that vast sum goes to Afghanistan’s farmers, $300 million to the Taliban guerrillas, and the $64 billion balance ‘to the drug mafia,’ leaving ample funds to corrupt the Karzai government in a nation whose total GDP is only $10 billion.”

What I don't understand about this war is Why, since we're there, has heroin made a comeback here? Aren't we in the perfect position to do something about it? Shouldn't that be a HUGE priority? Also while we are there, supposedly fighting the terrorists on their own turf, more Arab and African Muslims are immigrating to this country than ever before, and it's up to us ordinary citizens (and ordinary cops) to deal with it and figure out who's who amongst them, all without looking racists. The army trusted one so much as to hire him as a psychiatrist to work on soldiers' heads at Ft Hood, and look what happened. It's starting to feel like the joke's on us and it doesn't make any sense at all.

okay i do not agree with the pay out. do they pay out the families of the american soliders they wrongfuly kill? no i dont think so. so why the heck are we paying them for on of our soliders wrong doings. the solider is being punished that should be enough. and for all that say "oh thats good they are getting paid." or they would be getting millions if they were in the u.s. check your loyalties. im surprised to read some of the comments left by some of you. i am sick to my stomach right now.

Trust, I just saw your comment about Opium. You're saying what I'm wondering. If our govt is profiting from the drug trade and people on heroin, it's a SCARY situation.

WHY are We zionist enslaved Americans suffering with these ruinous wars??? aipac, aipac, aipac, aipac, aipac; God Damned aipac.

Christopher, why are the American soldier wrongfully killed. Bush sent them there. We are in their country. These soldiers signed up to fight. Wrongfully killed? Ask former President Bush and @!$%# Dick Cheney about it.

I'm sick to my stomach right now because of people like you in the U.S. Loyalties? Not with a cold blood murderer of children. Sorry, Christopher, but you make me sick to my stomach.

To Realist-502574: And do you realize that ALL of those stated oranizations are male dominated? This Man STATES CLEARLY Women should have the chance of having ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY over the world and administer world affairs. There JUST MIGHT Be a Significant Improvement in the world. The islamic muslims would freakout and maybe, just maybe, stop buttIntercoursing each other and see Women in a New Way with respect and protection.

Are you joking? Females historically are even more prone to wars than men!

Hello unbelievable, this has been going on for centuries, it's only recently that people are waking up to the reality of how the world really works. If you notice, more people are more interested in arguing their political religions when all the while there is no difference between the parties. Our political system has turned into a two headed one part system serving their masters, the banksters/Federal Reserve and Wall Street. The drug trade is a dirty little business that has always created huge profits for the money changers.

bshepherd 1.16 - So you are saying Bush out smarted Congress. That doesn't speak well of Congress.

Not to take away from the tragedy, but, 50,000 dollars is more than enough money then they would have earned in their life time just saying per person. Not that it makes things better, my feeble attempt to show how poorly they live.

I feel for the Afghan families yes...BUT, I dont blame our government, I don't blame the Sgt. War is hell people and the consequences are such that it affects everyone. I hurt for the man and his family. What hell he must have been going through to feel it necessary to commit such a crime. His family must be devastated...and we comment like we expect that when we send a man into a war, we expect him to come out unscathed..."normal"? Very sad....and what is worse is that he will not receive near the 50K that they received in compensation to help him work through the demons that caused this in the first place. Shoddy military healthcare, in a prison cell...very sad indeed.

I wonder what the taliban pay the people of the Afghans they kill??? ZERO! I wonder what the terrorists paid Americans for the 3000 people they killed in 9/11??? ZERO.

America should pull out of the middle east and never go back! Drill our own oil, develop our own solar, wind, clean energy, and mind our own business.

No on cares about America- why should we care about them. Then when Haiti, Africa, or any other third world nation has a disaster- we can sit back and let Europe handle it.

Pull out and never go back.

Such a horrible idea to give these people that are now really pissed at the USA money. Now since they are pissed who are they going to turn to for help not USA, now they will turn to the Taliban and other Terrorist Organizations over there to help them. Thus we have just sent the Terrorists a boat load of money to spend against US. Although I do not agree with the way these people were killed but facts are facts.

What??? $50k per..when they do it its only cost a goat a a few gallons of olive oil.

Our nation will never learn that we can't buy friendship and forgiveness.

While I sympothize for our troops well being, this rampage is intolerable.

We would not accept a rampage from the enemy in our country by the enemy who claims it was not one of them, why sould we expect the victims to be so understanding?

to hell w ith these scum, they hate everything on Earth that breathes ! Why should we pay them for killing future murderers? Where is our compensation for Americans killed, tortured and beheaded? obama pays the enemy , while attacking every state that tries to protect our borders, the dummy is a traitor to this nation whether or not he is a legal citizen!

If they had American lawyers they would each be getting millions for years to come.

Apparently, you live in a different America than I. Every large settlement I've examined shows the lawyers making off with the majority of the judgement.

What happened was tragic as the horrors of a decade long war are unraveling as the Americans and Afghans are totally sick and tired of war. Who knows what caused this terrible event. Perhaps he may have been ordered, by a superior, to attack these homes because there may have been suspected Taliban living there. His four tours of duty may have desensitized him to where he grew to truly hate the people that he was supposed to be protecting. There needs to be justice because an American soldier, probably a Christian one, attacked Muslims in their own country. But isn't that what war is about?

On the other hand, what ever happened to the case of the Muslim army psychiatrist who attacked innocent soldiers at Ft Hood while standing on a desk, aiming at them randomly, while shouting that God is great? I think that 13 died while many more were injured. Why doesn't his case come to the public light as he was a terrorist against the US that he was supposed to be serving as a citizen? He attacked Americans on our own soil, but what was his reason as he never spent any time overseas as this man did. Justice needs to be done in this case as well.

...probably the most valid comment I've seen so far...

Well--it's definitely better than the article:

The Associated Press earlier reported that the families of the dead received $50,000 for each person killed on Saturday at the governor's office, citing Kandahar provincial council member Agha Lalai.

Well, I really hope that no one was actually killed on Saturday at the governor's office--those families have lost enough members already.

he said he killed those children for Christianity

Provide your source, please.

Regardless of the source, cheating 1.5 million out of old people's life savings than joining the army to escape prosecution does not sound very Christian to me. Just as terrorism does not sound very Muslim to me.

Liyanage, seems like you're saying you wish he killed for Christianity to satisfy your anti Christian bigotry. Are you a mind reader or just a fool or both?

Provide your source.

He should be tried by people like you who believe EVERYTHING that is in the news media? Really? You believe the dribble that ANYONE can put on the 'net. If you do - I have some property in California I'll sell to you. Better yet - how about a bridge in Las Vegas? Or New York? San Fransisco - a big pretty orange one.

Thank God he will be tried by a military panel instead. People with more smarts than you!

@Phenomenal112--don't forget the sexual assault.

I really don't know what to think about all the findings now coming out to us about Sgt. Bales. If as the government's is now stating, that he went out, killed some, returned to base, then went out again and killed some more. Also, 6 of those he tried to kill are now testifying that they can id him. This they claim they can do this despite this all happening before dawn (in the dark) should be hard for anybody to swallow, along with the governments version, which also was different when they first reported on it. They apparently held be quite a bit from the American people, or just didn't want to release it, for fear that they could not at a later time spin a new version when they wished to.

I keep going back to the original news about Sgt. Bale. That I received in my emai (will try to locate it. The testimony of the Afghan people that said that they witnessed the killings from a distance,claiming that they were NEIGHBORS AND FAMILY, and said that it was a group of soldiers that did the killing, that they were drinking and laughing and shooting. Also, it showed a video of the President of Afghanistan hamid karzai and he said that he agreed with that version. He stated that he believed that no 1 man could have gone from house to house killing, and then carrying all the bodies back to 1 house, wraping them in cloths and trying to burn the bodies. He apparently has now change his mind, in consideration of the $50,000.00 per head paid for each person killed.

On summation of all I have heard, and others may come to a different conclusion,you are all entitled to what you have heard and believe. I personally think all in Afghanistan are satisfied with the payment given and now are happy to see us leave their country as soon as possible. I do not believe the governments version, that Sgt Bales acted alone. Why would the neighbors and family lie about what they saw and why would karzai come to the same conclusion, if it were not true??? Personally, I think our government is making a scapegoat out of Sgt. Bales, as they have always done to others in the past. Not just this administration, but both of them. This is my opinion and I stand by it. You are entiled to your own. Good Luck with that!!!!

When & where did the accuse say he killed children for christainity? Who heard him? What is your reliable source? Sound like more enemy propaganda or worst propaganda from the present admistration.

I am sure that $50,000 per victim is more about keeping muslim support here in the United State for his relection this year. 'Oh look how I treated your people back in the ME, vote for me. Why else send the message it was from president obama instead of the people of the US?

Liyanage Pereravia Facebook

"While no motive for the killings has been proffered" - Yes he did, he said he killed those children for Christianity. Why media hiding what he said? If he were a Muslim our median will be all over him and blame the whole Muslim world as terrorists. But even the guy said he did it for his religion Christianity we are hiding it saying "While no motive for the killings has been proffered".

I think you had better come up with a source of what you stated above!! If you don't think he had a reason,if it is proven that he did commit these killings. How about the people over there sending their young children, their little bodies wrapped with explosives, out to greet and blow up our military personnel? Do you think it just might be one of the reasons that the children were killed.

But I really don't believe that is the reason either. What I believe is that it was dark as stated and he or whomever did the killings, did not know or was not able to see in the dark, whoever it was being killed, and did not know until the bodies were assembled to one place.

Did that reasoning even come across to you before making the afore mention statment and are you of the Muslim faith, might I ask??

How about the people over there sending their young children, their little bodies wrapped with explosives, out to greet and blow up our military personnel?

Provide your source. (This is getting a little repetitive, isn't it?)

I totally agree, Liyanage Pereravia, if it were a Afghan-Muslim soldier that had killed 16 men, women, and mostly children, it would be an outrage and people here would be screaming, "kill the terrorist!" What is the difference? Because the shoe is on the other foot, that's why. I'm also quite sure that Americans would be wanting more compensation than a paltry $50,000 per family member lost. So what if they never would have earned more than that in their lifetime? What about the value of their life to their loved ones? I think it's sad to let him off based on PTSD syndrome because anyone that joins the military, especially in a time of war, knows what they could be facing. They shouldn't join if they can't handle it or they should go and get a medical leave based on undue mental stress instead of wiping out innocent people. And then to try to burn the bodies? That proves he knew what he did was WRONG and was trying to cover it up. Don't commit the crime and then try to get out of doing the time. If an Afghan did that over there, they would probably behead him. Just sayin'.......

Oh really, Wiseguy, so now one has to be Muslim to care if innocent people get murdered? BTW, I am not Muslim, just someone that believes MUDER is illegal, no matter what religion or race you are. We would NEVER let someone from the Middle East come over here, kill innocent people, and say, "Oh I was so stressed out from all the war in my country, I didn't know what I was doing." People would scream for the death penalty and I very much doubt that we would hand him or her back to law enforcement in Afghanistan and let them decide the punishment. But that's what happened in this case. They have no say in the punishment of an American that murdered people in their country at all. Why doesn'y hardly anyone try to put themselves in the shoes of the family that are dealing with loved ones that got murdered. But everyone expects them to understand why the soldier did it? He could have asked for medical military leave if he was that stressed out. The government would not force someone to stay in a battle zone if they could lose it and start killing innocent people. What if he would've turned on his own comrades? Just sayin'....

WG-"But I really don't believe that is the reason either. What I believe is that it was dark as stated and he or whomever did the killings, did not know or was not able to see in the dark, whoever it was being killed, and did not know until the bodies were assembled to one place."

I've heard that excuse before,and it doesn't wash. He killed people in two separate houses. Even if in one he didn't know.After dragging the bodies into a room to burn the first set,he would have know. Really all these excuses people keep posting boil down to Americans not wanting to believe one of our own soldiers would do something like that.

This has to be the most ridiculous and lame argument of all. The man deliberately broke into people's homes and murdered them.

Yes, it is worse that he preyed on helpless women and children, but the core issue is he murdered people. And for that there is NO EXCUSE unless you are also a rabid animal just like him.

There is NO excuse whatsoever for this POS to get anything less than the death penalty.

As Texas grace mentioned... tried by a military panel. This is a good thing unless you're the one being tried. They won't get caught up in all the BS that goes on in a regular court hearing. Everything is straight to the point... AND the punishments more fit the crimes. As a matter of fact... their punishments tend to be far more harsh.

Oh BTW... please Texas grace... don't sell him any land in California. There are already enough problems here from ignorance like that.

"As Texas grace mentioned... tried by a military panel. This is a good thing unless you're the one being tried. They won't get caught up in all the BS that goes on in a regular court hearing. Everything is straight to the point... AND the punishments more fit the crimes. As a matter of fact... their punishments tend to be far more harsh."

We'll have to see on that. If he'd killed other soldiers,I think so.But our track record on punishing American soldiers that murder civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan is not a good one.This type of thing has happened before.This time its just much more atrocious. And the guilty have gotten away with it,or just a slap on the wrist.

shh no one tell the Afghans 50000 is still half of what we pay for each of our soldiers deaths.

Paying compensation to the survivors is not buying our way out of it. Compensation is traditional in just about all cultures in one way or another especially tribal cultures. And it doesn't make the whole thing go away. The alledged shooter is also in a military prison facing his charges.

If this happened in the US, the survivors would have to sue the killer to try to get any kind of compensation which would take years and it is impossible to get compensation out of someone sentenced to prison earning 50 cents a day doing laundry.

This is a terrible tragedy and the fact that he was even able to leave his base on his own without orders is a massive failure, but the US right now is doing what our own laws and Afghan culture demand - compensation and accountability.

I believe it time for the U.S. and people like you Shosyn to start taking responsibilities for the damages we do. We don't live in the 20th century anymore where powerful nations got away with most of the atrocities. I hope you will join us in the 21st.

@Shosyn couldn't agree with you more, the killings were unnecessary and compensation for lives lost???? How can you put a price on a human being? 50,000???? No money will make up for lost lives, the Sgt. should have been shot that's my opinion get a taste of your own medicine.

!!! Have Afghans no shame to accept this?

Exactly, because there has never been a civil monetary judgement in this country concerning wrongful death.

FOX on commercial??

Neither of you know anything about afghani's, it's an insult NOT to pay blood money.

You guys should learn more about Afgan's ways of doing things. Usually if you murder someone and have no government intervention, you have to pay them. If you have no money, pay them with your daughters.

Watch Frontline channel and learn more about how it works.

He is still protected by our constitution and as such he shall face fair trial in a court of law.

i see our president as a very kind, thoughtful and compassionate man.

certainly a breath of fresh air compared to many others i've seen in my life time.

OBAMA IN 2012!!!!

The governments had a agreement prior that if these types of situations occurred. So him being brought to the US is what was agreed to. I also think the large system that allowed him to be there, needs to be looked at as well.

In this country we don't hand the suspect over to the family of the victims. Murder is treated as a crime against society and society determines guilt or innocence and punishment - not the victim's family. That is why the state, not families, prosecutes criminals, and why the victim/family does not have a private attorney prosecute a criminal case. Legal action by victims and their families is limited to civil law which can determine damages (compensation just as the US has paid compensation to the Afghan families.) UCMJ and courts martial under US law will determine Bales guilt or innocence and punishment.

What???

I'm surprised when it rains Fox (fake) News doesn't report the weather like this: "rain today, more proof Obama is a bad President" full story at 6pm

Fox cant say that because everyone knows obama has never taken blame for anything!

What the sergeant did was terrible.

And like it or not, it's also a matter of perspective. The Taliban kills a hell of a lot more innocent people too. Makes the amount of people he killed, although tragic, look like a drop in a really big bucket. I don't hear of any one of the members of the Taliban -- much less al Qaeda -- publicly apologizing to surviving family members for wiping out their villages, wholesale, nor even compensating them in any way, shape or form.

Although the cultural biases will continue the mistrust and blame, at least I give the DoD and this Administration credit for trying to do the right thing, in this case.

But in the meantime, I think we're best served to eventually get out of Afghanistan. Then after the Taliban starts killing more innocents in that country, one can only hope how quickly the reactionary mob rule in their country tones down their chants of, "Death to America." The only ones publicly chanting those destructive slogans at that point, will be the hate-mongers that will render themselves easier to identify by the Afghanistan police forces and their country's military leaders, that have brains enough to see through that mindless rhetoric as loud excuses for more violence against their own people. In this case, these squeaky wheels just may end up getting not the grease, but high velocity bullets by their law enforcement.

We haven't even tried the man. It has not even been proven in a court of law that he actually performed these atrocities and our government is already compensating the victim's families? Due process falls away when we're so busy apologizing for being American.

Did the families of the victims of 9/11 get compensation from the perpetrator's governments? I'm thinking NOT.

I would like to know what did the US accomplished in the 10 years they are there? The answer is zero

Correct, yet 3 of the 4 GOP candidates want to start another one.

"If at first you don't succeed................."

I would like to know what did the US accomplished in the 10 years they are there? The answer is zero..

Au contraire. We have accomplished a great deal. And I suspect that sooner or later, many of our accomplishments will come home to roost.

many of our accomplishments will come home to roost.

They will as soon as the "Freedom Towers" are completed!!

LOL Oh when 9/11 happen Where are the payments from the Saudi Arabia? After all it was the Saudi who hit the twin towers..But hey George Bush decided to go after Iraq and kill Woman and Children as well..

10 Years in Afgan and the US has accomplished nothing but destroyed life..How many times did you read the US missile hit the wrong target>?

With a name like Lunatic you need to get you head out of the mental ward and really see the whole world for what it is..

Paragus, perfect!

And the Soviets in Afg before that and they got stuck as well, big time

Yes, everyone has forgotten the Saudi Prince at Bush barbies at his home in Tex! (very good friends indeed) but the "oil attacks" did not become fruit full in IR and AFG until we leave/left, as we see in IRAQ now!-----But I wonder why are the gas and oil prices so high now, was that planed so the Rep could attack Pres Obama?

It does help to stand back and look from above, but most here apparently can not.

I wonder how much 1,210,000 dead Iraqis will cost us--or is the camouflaged aid we are paying to make sure they do not sue for all these wrong-full killings of children, girls and boys?

paragus

LOL Oh when 9/11 happen Where are the payments from the Saudi Arabia? After all it was the Saudi who hit the twin towers..But hey George Bush decided to go after Iraq and kill Woman and Children as well..

10 Years in Afgan and the US has accomplished nothing but destroyed life..How many times did you read the US missile hit the wrong target>?

With a name like Lunatic you need to get you head out of the mental ward and really see the whole world for what it is..

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Its already ADVANCE payments made by SAUDI to Bush and Chenny in BILLIONS infacts it happened before 9/11.Does you heard Hilliary mentioned it before during Primary?

Money was USED through CIA as payroll master ,to trains the appalling TALIBAN ,BIN LADEN .The one mastermind "TERRORIST ACT on 9/11".

You Moron

if we had traded cheney for the dead guys, we would have really saved money!

on the heart implant and on the money given in compensation to the afghans.

and wasn't it really cheney who wanted to go to war in afghanistan?

the old 'two birds with one stone' argument. and a extra bird by getting cheney out of the usa and not having to look at his sorry puss anymore.

(i would have thrown him and his whole family in the deal, just for general principal!!)

and a more deserving person would have gotten a crack at the heart that finally beats in cheney's chest. so really 4 birds with one stone! how can you beat that????? you can't!

Probably some kind of conversion to the local currency.

I did not come into this country to fcking fight for obama, i wanted the american dream.

And that is the problem in a nutshell. I use the word as a pun.

You expected to find the American dream by invading a country and murdering its civilians? May you live on the street and in the gutter for the rest of your sorry days, along with the others who did the same and even have the guts to admit it in public without a trace of shame.

What exactly do you think should be your reward for taking a job that involves murdering people for money? I bet even you can guess what I think your reward should be. Fortunately, the U.S. government will, after promising you the good life, see that you actually get as little as possible.

It will still be too much, by far.

fck you patter i hope you spend your sorry ass days in the street, what i said is to bring the troops home and not spend money in Afgan, you are a fcking loser.

Dorian, if you didn't come here to fight for Obama, would you have fought for Bush? If you wouldn't fight for Bush, would you fight for this country at all? If you wouldn't fight for this country at all, please leave, we have enough deadbeats like you.

So , where is the outrage over the Muslims invading Europe and their progeny in France MURDERING 3 children and 4 adults in one attack outside a war zone ?

Why any country including ours continues to allow immigration from countries that have vowed to destroy them is beyond me !

the american dream is in costa rica, brazil and a dozen other places. fool!!!

President Obama did not put us there. If you came here then at least educate yourself.

PAUL!

Don't tell them THAT.

Jeeze. There's goes the neighborhood.

I case you haven't been watching the news (other than the Fake Fox News) Afghanistan has not now -or has ever- attacked the USA, we invaded it and have been killing all the people there for a decade, and it's just dawned on you we should stop?

You are a true conservative.

Jack -1122070 ; how you hit it on the nose. Just think of how many politicians have lined their pockets with mega bucks for the past 10 years. It's frightening !

odb2

Just how many years have you served in a war zone and would you be one of the first crying foul if the draft was reinstated?

No he didn't cost the US that money Muslims did. I want to know when the hell they are gonna start paying us for all the people they kill!?! All the people they kidnap and behead on Tv, or shoot in the back, or blow up at a bus stop, or masacare in a school. I want to know when they are going to be held accountable not only for how they treat US citizens but for how they treat the billions of people around the world who aren't like them and for their own people they kill....which they just killed 5 of their own in yet ANOTHER car bombing in Afghanstan. Honeslty at this point I'm so sick of Islam and Muslims and the double standard they think they deserve and the people allowing them to have it I wish this soldier would have killed a few more of them and that more soldiers would follow in his foot steps until there wasn't a single one left standing.

The two year old little girl didn't have a gun sweetie. Shut up, you are mean and stupid. Simplistic thinking by simplistic conservatives is destroying our nation. You MS Wren should be hung besides BALES for calling for the deaths of innocent people. You act like their are no muslims in the world just terrorists.

We hung 171 men in world war II.

Wait, Tillman...now you know that little girl must have slept with a gun under her pillow, just like all the other kids that were killed. Don't you know they are ALL just waiting to fight. Just because they worship differently and live in poor conditions and talk in that weird language then they aren't deserving of anything other than a bullet.

The sad part is, there are those who believe that crap.

People need to stop looking at this as something that was not so bad..."killed some future terrorists"...that's an idiot's stand.

These were normal people like you and I...living their lives, however less fortunate than ours, who were murdered in the middle of the night by someone who was supposed to protect them if they needed it. This has nothing to do with politics.

@wren your an idiot. i can already tell your a lowlife loser. so your saying that the iraq people are all wrong for defending they're country against invaders. and i know your gonna mention 911 which was supposedly the PAKISTANI people who did it yet we are in iraq. oh but they're wrong for defending themselves and they all deserve to die right? i was in the military and i find it funny how cowards like you who would probably piss himself in a war is talking so reckless.

obd2 if his standards were so low, from the start, as you say, why was he sent over there 4 times?

perhaps he wasn't the problem? perhaps the service can't screen very well?

(like they can't get the right body in the right hole in arlington cemetary!!!! enough said???!!!!)

and who should serve more than 2 tours anyway? unless you want to create a 'walking dead' group like we did with viet nam, 2 tours is more than enough for anyone doing the real fighting. (as opposed to some clerk in an office job.)

@CPTillman so you are also calling for the hanging of an innocent. You are no different from him BITCH.

While the deaths of of innocent men/women/children is deplorable and deserving of punishment, I'm not one who thinks the life of a 2 year old girl is worth more than that of a soldier who puts his life on the line. That's for rubbish lynch mob mentality freaks like CPTillman.

Yes Bales should get the needle, but let's respect him for his four years of distinguished service.

And those brave NATO soldiers who were betrayed and murdered by the people they trained are more deserving of our outrage than these innocent people.

You're one of the extreme few on here that's making any sense. I was about to make the same comment, but tell them they're a bunch of idiots, not nuts. The problem of our country, idiots behind the wheel - regardless of which party, government, media, or corporate America.

The wall sounds like a good place for both of you. Traitors!

How are they traitors? I think if you get convicted of an unjust murder then you have a choice of fireing squad, electric chair, or lethal injection. The sentence to be carried out the next day; instead of waiting 25 or so years in a cell on tax payer money for it. That would free up alot of prison in this country and alot of tax money.

EMRoss, the United States still operates under the terms of our Constitution, a document some of us consider sacred not a 'G-D piece of paper'.

If this is not to your liking, you have the option of complaining to Congress to change the Constitution. Other than that, your choices are limited to shut up or more to where freedom and safety are negotiable, at best.

THE VICITIMS OF HATRED CRIMES

Lets study each individual case base on his own merits

The case of Major Nidal Malik Hasan is much more complicated, the motivation less clear. He was born in Arlington, Virginia, close to Washington DC. He was brought up at Roanoke, in rural Virginia. He went to Virginia Tech, where he joined the Officer Training Corps and graduated with a degree in biochemistry.he joined the military, who sent him to study psychiatry at the United Services University of the Health Sciences, just outside Washington DC, graduating in 2001.

SInce 9/11 everything seems to change ,for Major Nidal Malik Hasan,He seeing tremendous HATE crimes toward Muslim by Gop Tea-Party even his Military peer treats him though like, he's a "Terorist"at work place of Fort-Hood,Just because ,they see him as MUSLIM even though a Patriotic American serving.He just just snapped.

SInce 9/11 everything seems to change ,for Ssgt Bales too,He seeing tremendous HATE crimes toward Muslim created by Gop Tea-Party even his Military peer suffered by "Terorist" at work place , in Afghanistan,Just because his "Hatred" toward All Muslims.It doesn't matters whether it civilian or military children or women make no difference to him.He just snapped

He served at Walter Reed, one of the main hospitals in the US for soldiers recovering from physical and mental illness. He was promoted in May and transferred from Walter Reed to Fort Hood.

A retired colonel, Terry Lee, who worked beside Hasan in a ward, said he had been unhappy about US foreign policy and had made several comments that the US should not be in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The US military is dealing with a rising number of stress-related homicides and suicides among soldiers who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, or have returned from duty in those conflicts. Many troops are on their third or fourth tour of combat.This again what he 's mentioning to top ranking officers, it seems fell to deaf ear,If they've listening to him about 3,4 tours.

Hasan did not fit the classic pattern of a stressed soldier. But someone listening becoming frustations day after day to troops describing the tension and carnage in Iraq and Afghanistan could end up as damaged as those facing combat at first hand

So its obvious GOP must Pay the "Price" for BOTH Americans thus Bankrupting the Country,Financially,Emotions,Values,Constitution,Morals,Military,Innocents Americans and World Citizens.

emr: what is really scary is you got 7 likes for that stupid inhumane statement.

USA go home!!! and stay home

emr: what is really scary is you got 7 likes for that stupid inhumane statement.

I just gave him one,so now it is like 8.

Tell that to Zimmerman

EMRoss, the United States still operates under the terms of our Constitution, a document some of us consider sacred not a 'G-D piece of paper'.

Tell that to Zimmerman

They paid out $50k per life taken without having the trial first? He's still considered a suspect! Guess this is another groveling apology for invading their country for no reason whatsoever!

Hey, it's better than "Oops".

How much did they pay the US for killing our boys over the burning of some stupid book

Another "good christian" chimes in with the tired mantra "My holy book is better than yours".

Newsflash KN, I love Santa and he trumps them all.

santa is a chump- "free stuff for all" kinda like obama

Well, obama is a lot like santa.... he hands out money to his voting base that doesnt work.... gives out obama cards for free food, and gives illegals his obama card for free health care and education, all on the few workers left in the country.... This is called Socialism, and its about time we wake up to what obama is doing

harry

all on the few workers left in the country...

You can think that last guy in office for that one.

Its about time we wake up to what obama is doing

Hell you haven't woken up to what the last guy did yet.

NEWSFLASH: Santa is not real...

gary

Just because you have been bad all your life. And never got anything from Santa. Doesn't mean he isn't real! ò¿ó

How much should that little 2 year old girl pay you stupid hateful conservatives? How much money was in her little pocket.

santa is a chump- "free stuff for all" kinda like obama

Right! Coming Christmas time, the "Conservatives"are the first ones in bringing out Santa. They get a cramp if anybody says anything bad about the jolly old guy that gives free stuff.

I am sure you get presents too...Don't say you don't.

Well, obama is a lot like santa

This is called Socialism, and its about time we wake up to what obama is doing

You put these 2 sentences in the same comment.

When Christmas time gets here, just remember that Santa is a socialists and you will get NOTHING under the Christmas tree...

Then, of course, it will be the "hateful, atheists liberals" fault

You guys can't even write something coherent

news flash.... obama robs the workers and gives to the non workers... socialism..... and obama has been in office for almost 4 yrs, so george bush is out of the question, period. In case you havent noticed, obama cant run his re election on what he has achieved during his first 4 yrs, because he has not achieved anything but has further put us in debt, and has not stopped spending nor will pass any budget in order to keep spending on his voting base tha twont work. So, should he get re elected, look for the end of this country, and riots in the streets like greece, when his voting base discovers that there is no more money for the non workers, nor anyone else because we are flat out of money and no one will loan us anymore.

Gordon can also stand beside BALES in the firing line.

Oh boy...here it comes...another conspiracy.

I find it very sad the media is crusifying our soldier, diging up dirt on him from years in the past to make him look bad. Why not have compassion for a man that has seen the horrors of war one to many times. Seen what the Afghans have done to our men, his friends with their IED's which our media plays down, or barely reports on at all. We hear nothing of the Major and Colonel that were killed at point blank range in an Embassy, nothing of their families loss. Certainly no dirt on the killer of these two men, no investigative reporting here at all. I think the media needs to realize that our soldiers are fighting for the freedoms they enjoy each and every day of their lives, including freedom of speach which the media uses to trash our soldiers.