Wife of Staff Sgt. Robert Bales to TODAY: 'I just don't think he was involved'

Kari Bales, the wife of Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, the soldier who stands accused of murdering 17 Afghan civilians, talks exclusively to TODAY's Matt Lauer about the "devastating" accusations against her husband, saying "this is not him."

 

Updated at 7:51 a.m. ET: Karilyn Bales says that she finds accusations that her husband killed 17 Afghan villagers "unbelievable."

The wife of Staff Sgt. Robert Bales defended her husband in an exclusive interview with Matt Lauer for TODAY, which aired Monday morning.

"I just don't think he was involved," she said. When asked by Lauer if it was a case of mistaken identity, she said: "I don't have enough information."


She later added that "nothing" would be able to change her mind that "this is not what it appears to be."

Read more on this story at TODAY.com

The Washington state woman said her husband joined the Army after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to "protect his family, friends and country. He wanted to do his part." She added that her husband is "very brave, very courageous."

Officials allege that Bales wandered off base in southern Afghanistan earlier this month and killed eight Afghan adults and nine children.

US official: Afghans paid about $50,000 per shooting spree death

'He's like a big kid himself'
According to Lauer, Bales' wife said the soldier had been very involved in raising the couple's two children.

"He is accused of killing nine children, innocent children," Lauer said to Bales' wife.

Military prosecutors allege that Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, accused of a deadly rampage which left 17 Afghan civilians dead, came in two waves, with Bales returning to his base after the first attack and then slipping out again. NBC's John Yang reports.

She responded that the accusations are "unbelievable to me."

"He loves children, he's like a big kid himself," the wife of the Joint Base Lewis-McChord soldier said. "I have no idea what happened, but he would not ... he loves children, and he would not do that."

Bales was formally charged Friday with 17 counts of premeditated murder and other crimes.

For alleged Afghan shooter, death penalty unlikely

U.S. investigators have said they believe Bales killed in two episodes, returning to his base after the first attack and later slipping away to kill again. He is reported to have surrendered without a struggle.

The 38-year-old married father of two from Lake Tapps, Wash., is being held at a U.S. military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kan.

'A bit confused'
Karilyn Bales has spoken to her husband by telephone twice since he was detained. The soldier called his wife first from overseas shortly after massacre, and then last week from Fort Leavenworth where the two talked about family matters and "reaffirmed their love for each other," said her attorney, Lance Rosen.

She said that Bales "seemed a bit confused" during the phone calls.

Death toll in Afghanistan massacre climbs to 17

The couple has two young children, a girl named Quincy and a boy named Bobby.

Fourth tour of duty
Bales was on his fourth tour of duty in a war zone, having served three tours in Iraq, where he suffered a head injury and a foot injury. His civilian attorney, John Henry Browne, had said the soldier and his family had thought he was done fighting.

Speaking to Lauer, Karilyn Bales added: "He shielded me from a lot of what he went through. He's a very tough guy."

The family has set up a defense fund to help pay for Bales' legal fees.

PTSD: Having the courage to ask for help

The Bales family had a Seattle-area home condemned, struggled to make payments on another and failed to get a promotion a year ago. Karilyn Bales put the family's Lake Tapps, Wash., home up for sale days before the rampage.

The youngest of five brothers, Bales grew up in the working class Cincinnati suburb of Norwood, Ohio, and has been described as cheerful, all around good guy. He joined the Army two months after 9/11, after a Florida investment business failed and after he had worked with a string of securities operations.

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Goodluck.

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#1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:31 AM EDT

Why are vets twice as likely to get Lou Garrets disease?

Who is Lou Garret??? A relative of Leif Garret??

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#1.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:55 AM EDT

brutisbear, it sounds like you're a vet who may be suffering some ill effects. You owe it to yourself, your family and your community to get help if that is the case.

You're right that those of us who have not served in a combat zone can't totally relate to what soldiers must endure. No one can really relate to it but your fellow soldiers.

We all have stresses in our lives, and when they become overwhelming or cause problems for us, we need to take it upon ourselves to get help. I hope you will. Thanks for your service to our country, and good luck to you.

  • 9 votes
#1.3 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:21 AM EDT

It must be awful to have someone you are married to accused of something like this, especially if the person you knew would never do this. No doubt that war changes people. Sometimes for the better, but mostly for the worse. I honestly think we are looking at a person who just finally snapped and lost their sanity.

  • 10 votes
#1.4 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:25 AM EDT

Brutisbear5

Don't listen to kaybeetoys, you go for the government help ,they will f^%k you up worse that you are now, Wars are ways the governments of the world get rid of the populaces,We get sucked into it with all that patriotic bull s#!t, Notice none of the rich go to war? think about it! War, what is it good for? NOTHING!, absolutely NOTHING!(song) Every one on earth should just say F##k off we ain't going no more You go all you rich f$#k's fight for yourself, scumbags!

  • 5 votes
#1.5 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:48 AM EDT

One of the many drugs people in the military are given is mefloquine to prevent them from getting malaria. The side effects of this drug are; depression,paranoia, aggression, nightmares and insomnia. Combine those side effects with the daily stress and horrors of war and you have a receipe for disaster.

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:55 AM EDT

Brutisbear5,hey,it's Lou Gehrig's disease-not lou Garret's.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:55 AM EDT

"I just don't think he was involved," she said. When asked by Lauer if it was a case of mistaken identity, she said: "I don't have enough information."

He confessed you dumb <explitive>

Now go and apologize to the families your a**hole husband destroyded you selfish <explitive>

She added that her husband is "very brave, very courageous."

No he is a child murdering coward. Hell has a warm spot waiting for Bales. Hopefully he gets to inhabit that new warm residence as soon as possible.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:00 AM EDT
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well maybe if she had lost some weight he would have had some reason to come back to

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#1.9 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:02 AM EDT

meanest one - Apt screen name. Could you be more of a jerk? Kari Bales has done absolutely nothing she should apologize for. She is supporting her husband. She has had two brief conversations with him since this happened during which he apparently seemed confused (perhaps understandable). She is struggling with reconciling these actions with the person she has know for years. Why is that so hard for you to understand. Perhaps a complete, total lack of empathy and compassion?

  • 6 votes
#1.10 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:10 AM EDT

Perhaps a complete, total lack of empathy and compassion?

You are absolutly right. I draw the line where that POS killed innocent unarmed children in their sleep (FYI a months old infant included). All my empathy and compassion lay with the families that were victimized by this cold, heartless monster. Any individuals who try to excuse or rationalize his actions are just as much of a sick-o as he is.

  • 6 votes
#1.11 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

She admits she doesn't know what happened so why even grant an interview. She needs to keep a low profile and get all the info she can. If her husband is guilty, interviews sure aren't going to help him nor would a legal defense fund.

  • 3 votes
#1.12 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:30 AM EDT

She admits she doesn't know what happened so why even grant an interview

It's her attempt to conjure up the publics support for her cold-blooded POS husband, being he could and right should get the needle. I agree that she should sit down and shut up though.. unless it's to apologize and share her condolences to the REAL VICTIMS.

  • 5 votes
#1.13 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:34 AM EDT

This guy was part of a stock FRAUD operation for years and associates at places he moved on from were prosecuted after he left---JUST LIKE HE WAS!! Judgement for FRAUD $1.5 Million.

This guy walked away from that for 12 years he has hidden in the Army to avoid payment, waiting for the elderly clients to DIE.

This woman doesn't know her husband at all. This whole thing was totally planned. He runs away to the Army after his conviction on stock fraud. She doesn't see him for 12 years of being in the army. Now, he goes to jail and it's about the same--calls every once in a while and she lives on his pension. The elderly couple GETS NOTHING of their settlement. The families of the dead in Afghanistan have already been paid $50000 each. End of story.

By doing this--Life just goes on except he's in jail instead of the Army. He never has to deal with his wife or the old couple he owes. He just makes out to be the PTSD victim and spends the rest of his life reading, getting free room and board and medical care. Quite a story. I wonder if she believes he wasn't a crook either, that the stock fraud conviction was something else he didn't do....

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#1.14 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

She added that her husband is "very brave, very courageous."

Whatever happened to all that money he owed and whatnot? You know that he escaped paying by joining the military.... Just wondering

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#1.15 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

Are those, who deployed this poor soldier injured in the head and leg in Iraq in Afghanistan and deny promotion, human?

Even sane people will go crazy with the above and another crazy environment in Afghanistan.

At least veterns should support this poor soldier and oppose future wars in Syria and Iran.

    #1.16 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

    Well meanest, thanks for the response. Maybe some day you'll grow up into an actual human being. I wasn't excusing or supporting the actions of Sgt. Bales, but rather showing some empathy for the struggle Mrs. Bales must be having in coming to terms with what he appears to have done. I can understand (sort of) the level of your anger at him, but why do you hate her so much? Just because she hasn't jumped on your "kill him now without benefit of trial" bandwagon?? She's his wife. What do you expect her to do, grab a torch and an axe and run through the village with you?

    • 1 vote
    #1.17 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

    gene-349280

    Brutisbear5

    Don't listen to kaybeetoys, you go for the government help ,they will f^%k you up worse that you are now,

    What do you suggest he do, gene?

    Wars are ways the governments of the world get rid of the populaces,We get sucked into it with all that patriotic bull s#!t, Notice none of the rich go to war? think about it! War, what is it good for? NOTHING!, absolutely NOTHING!(song) Every one on earth should just say F##k off we ain't going no more You go all you rich f$#k's fight for yourself, scumbags!

    The U.S. has a volunteer army. Was Bales forced to go? Was brutisbear forced to enlist? You should be grateful that some people are willing to put themselves in harm's way to protect YOU.

      #1.18 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
      Reply

      I don't think that the type of information that this article contains should have be given out. Children's names, hometown, and wife's name. This is just painting a target on these people.

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      Reply#2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:49 AM EDT

      I don't know if this wife has an attorney, but someone should have advised her to stay away from interviews. She seemed dangerously unprepared.

      A serious journalist interviewer might have easily set her up to do great harm to her husband's case by asking questions about her husbands history of violence under the influence of alcohol and his criminal record both before and after he went into the army.

      • 4 votes
      #2.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:46 AM EDT

      Dan H

      DIVIDE AND CONQUER!, What did you expect?

        #2.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:51 AM EDT

        Invented Iraqi wars (1991 and 2003) were simply doing dirty work for Saudi Arabia, oil companies, lobbyists, Israel and their cheap agents like George Bushes, John McCan and co!

        If there was no Iraqi war in 2003, this poor soldier did not have to go through many tortures in Iraq.

        "her husband joined the Army after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to "protect his family, friends and country. He wanted to do his part." She added that her husband is "very brave, very courageous.""

        This is the price one pays for too much patriotism and loyalty to a cause.

        Now Syria and Iran's dirty wars are on plate for the same gangs!

          #2.3 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:42 AM EDT
          Reply

          The man is either nuts and guilty, needing treatment and prison or he is guilty and goes straight to prison.

          It seems that simple, and yet it is more painfull then that. Wars create victims, all round.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#3 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:50 AM EDT

          If you kill without reason you are either nuts or a criminal, thats all I said, and I don't think you can claim otherwise. I never said he had no reason to go nuts.

          Oh and you are right that I am educated, but in my country (Denmark) we don't send the poor or stupid out to fight.

          That why I have two trips to Afghanistan under the belt. And you have a very unnuanced sence of patriotism, if you can't say, that killing 17 people is wrong.

          • 21 votes
          #3.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:42 AM EDT

          brutusbear-

          When you walk in this mans shoes and serve combat tour after combat tour after combat tour... then you may have an opinion.

          Nice try. Forget it.

          I pay your salary and am judged by your actions, and I am a born citizen of this country. You don't confer or deny my rights, regardless of how powerful you are in your little alpha fantasies.

          Your sort of arrogance ought to be a red flag. Perhaps fewer of these atrocities would occur.

          • 26 votes
          #3.3 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:06 AM EDT

          Brutisbear5 - I don't have to be in Miami in August to know it is hot in the summer in southern Florida. And what exactly is your feeble problem with education?

          • 14 votes
          #3.4 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:07 AM EDT

          When you walk in this mans shoes and serve combat tour after combat tour after combat tour... then you may have an opinion.

          Until you go to War for this country you do not have an inkling of an idea of what it is like to serve in combat over and over again and again... because people like you are either too rich, too lazy or too educated to serve!

          Dude, you did not get drafted, you VOLUNTEERED!!! You get compensated with tax free money and lifetime healthcare. What else do you want, a cookie?

          • 9 votes
          #3.5 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:02 AM EDT

          Brutisbear5;

          I'll have my opinion regardless of what I've done in my life, thank you. And you have no idea what I've done in my life. But of course we all now know what you have been through. You have about as much right to talk about others as you feel they should be talking about others, so thank you for all you've done for the country and keep in mind one of the reasons was so your fellow countrymen could have freedom of speech.

          • 4 votes
          #3.6 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:04 AM EDT

          Hey Brutisbear5,

          When you walk in this mans shoes and serve combat tour after combat tour after combat tour... then you may have an opinion.

          Does one have to have been a prisoner at Auschwitz to know Hitler was a homicidal maniac?.... Then STFU.

          • 8 votes
          #3.7 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

          It is easy to abuse some one who is already down or bring all law books, human rights manuals and more.

          But please give us a break from more of dirty wars in Syria and Iran. Iraqi wars were too many.

          • 2 votes
          #3.8 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
          Reply

          he joined the army he brainwashed him self.kids shot and burned ,but he loves kids his wife says,nice...

          • 6 votes
          Reply#4 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:08 AM EDT

          I totally agree. We've ignored the Karzai Drug Cartel and must walk by all the poppy fields and cannot torch them. We need a CIC who has the nerve and fortitude to start dropping napalm on the poppy fields. That would cause more hell than burning a mountain of Korans.

          • 5 votes
          #4.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:31 AM EDT

          Torching the poppy fields has been done before. There will always be a market for drugs as long as some people choose to blot out reality.

          This soldier sounds like he was suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PSTD). The military turns ordinary people into killers.

          • 2 votes
          #4.4 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:13 AM EDT

          Anybody know if the person or people who killed the American soldiers for burning those Korans was (were) caught? BTW, some of the insurgents that are in custody were wriiting in the Korans that were burned. That's an offense punishable by death, but the Afghans haven't killed them yet or called for their executions. And if this guy did do this he's wrong, too. I can understand killing enemy combatants during battle, but civilians should be left alone.

          • 2 votes
          #4.6 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

          As soon as it was announced that Tillman was joining the Army I just KNEW he was fvcked and wouldn't be coming home vertically. "KNEW" you say? Yeah, KNEW! One didn't have to be psychic to see the value Tillman would have as a 'fallen hero' for the propaganda machine. It was only a matter of waiting to hear it on the news.

          That we're involved in the drug trade over there right now is absolutely NO SUPRISE. The US gov't has been a backdoor supporter of the illegal drug trade at least since Vietnam with the CIA being caught red-handed more than once smuggling and dealing drugs. GHW Bush and Clinton were both involved in the cocaine smuggling biz, Bush actively and Clinton by purposefully looking the other way as it was shipped through his state. The Reagan crew paid Iran to KEEP our Embassy hostages. Thats right, paid the Iranians to KEEP THE HOSTAGES until his election! We called it the Iran-Contra scandal instead of the Reagan Treason scandal. The capture of Eugene Hassenfus, one of the CIA drug smuggling pilots, set that off. Check out a great website at www.CIADRUGS.com to get a good idea of how the scheme works. I'm sure that big-pharma gets a portion of Afghani opium , but I am willing to bet that the vast majority of it ends up on the illegal drug market.

          • 2 votes
          #4.7 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:42 AM EDT
          Reply

          I think the Taliban set him up. I'm actually convinced of it. Altho, he may have caused some collateral damage, I think the Taliban killed most if not all the non-combatants long before investigators arrived. But, that's my opinion only. None of us know what actually happened. But, most people on newsvine wouldn't know how that's even possible because most have never served in a combat zone involved in insurgency warfare and seen some of the things the enemy is capable of.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#5 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:29 AM EDT

          It did occur to me that this is a setup by someone. I don't really doubt that this soldier killed those people. After all, he turned himself in. But I have wondered about his motivation. Did he really "snap," or is this part of some larger plot by the military-industrial complex? I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but in this case, it just seems like there are a lot of unanswered questions.

          • 4 votes
          #5.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:34 AM EDT

          flbikerchick,

          I feel the same way. Things don't add up. The gunfire just off base and bodies set on fire? That would have given his position away to those responding to the gunfire. But he just moseys on back to base, takes a break and heads out again for more murder and burn? I have to call 'shenanigans!' on this.

          Don't worry about being called a "conspiracy theorist". Thats just a name they call anyone who dares to ask questions and think for themselves- especially if they're correct. The alternative is to be a "coincidence theorist"- which to me means that basically the person cannot handle how bad the truth may be and so has to rob it of any significance by thinking of it as 'coincidence'.

          As I learn more about this case I come to 2 possible conclusions- so far anyway. The 1st is that SSgt Bales had an extremely severe bout with PTSD and committed his crimes in a 'fugue state'. His lack of memory of the crimes is an indicator that this may be correct. The 2nd is, I admit, of a more conspiratorial basis, but can easily be proven to be a distinct possibility. It has to do with mind control. The big thing in 'mind control' over the past few years has been it's possible use via chip implants in the human body. That is one of the reasons there has been such an uproar whenever the subject of human implantation makes the news. Signals from a chip implant can make someone hear voices, see things that aren't there, commit horrible crimes and not remember a thing about it afterwards, and engage in any number of other behaviors. Do we know if SSgt Bales ever recieved an implant during his service- probably under the guise of being a 'locator chip' like one would have for a pet or child? It seems to me that this would be an avenue well worth investigating. If memory serves me correctly, the military said it was going to start chipping service-members at least a couple of years ago. It takes very little for me to imagine the military or intelligence services dedciding to do a little experiment just to make sure their equipment is still in order or maybe to see how effective it would be in making people obey & do something normally against their nature.

          I see that some of you are exploring the 'Bales was set up' scenario Can someone go a little deeper on this please? Thanks!

          • 2 votes
          #5.3 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:19 AM EDT
          Reply

          When we quit acting as a security force for the Karzai Drug Cartel and actually focus on the enemy, then and only then will there even be a remote chance of our doing some good there. If we cannot do that, then, we need to un-ass the whole AO and forget about it. My opinion is that isn't possible. There are too many hidden agenda's that our government is keeping from us.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#6 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:40 AM EDT

          And, for those of you who think i'm just another troll with an opinion, guess again. I did 23 years in the military, nine of which was in Psychological Operations. After my military career I became a police officer and then, a detective for a number of years. I am a decorated combat veteran. I am able to see the forest for the trees, and i'm telling you all, Bales was set up. Once he realized he had been set up, he was smart enought to lawyer up. I would have done the same.

          • 10 votes
          Reply#7 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:43 AM EDT
          Comment author avatarBobl-1819708Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Words from a "PIG"

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          #7.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:00 AM EDT

          I think it's been well established over the years, that on Newsvine most people are, Cop haters, war haters, religion haters, republican haters, opinion haters and in general anyone who doesn't agree with them haters.

          Great taste..........Less filling!

          Another day at the trailer park!

          • 1 vote
          #7.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:10 AM EDT

          Okay Perry, running with your premise for a minute, what would be the point? Who would benefit from killing 17 innocent people and then framing Sgt. Bales? It wouldn't help the American effort so it would be doubtful that he was ordered to kill these people and then confess. Even if they weren't all "innocent" why kill 9 children to cover up killing a couple of combatants? If the Taliban did it, why would Bales confess? Granted there is much that is unknown (at least to us) but I'm still having a little trouble making the stretch to a conspiracy.

          • 3 votes
          #7.3 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:23 AM EDT
          Reply

          I think it's interesting that they didn't mention that prior to joining the armed forces, he worked for a financial planning company and ripped off and stole from his elderly clients (which was not his only brush with the law). He joined to get away from those investigations and lawsuits, and not because he wanted to do something patriotic for his county.

          • 16 votes
          Reply#8 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:44 AM EDT

          you know this man? have personal knowledge of his actions?

          Or is this something from the democratic news corp? msnbc !

            #8.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:45 AM EDT
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            He only joined the military to skip out paying nearly $1.5 million to an elderly client he bilked for securities fraud. Bales joined the Army 18 months after an Ohio investor filed an arbitration complaint alleging unauthorized trading, breach of contract and other abuses against him, and remains shielded from the obligation as long as he remains in the military. Even though they owed for this fraud, Bales and his wife bought the Lake Tapps home in 2005 for $280,000. They are scammers and this is their lastest attempt at trying to bilk people out of money. The only thing he wanted to do by joining the army was to escape his financial crimes.

            "The Washington state woman said her husband joined the Army after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to "protect his family, friends and country. He wanted to do his part." - What a load of crap.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#9 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:44 AM EDT

            and, how is that even relevant to the case ?? It would not even be admissable in the trial. But, it serves the liberal media's purpose of twisting the story to suit their obsession for scandal.

            • 2 votes
            #9.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:59 AM EDT

            as always, it seems this story has two sides. i can agree with perry and brutisbear about our governments ability to create wars where there are none and to cover up the truth from the american people to the point that we don't even know why we are there, much less who the enemy is. and while i don't pretend to know what it takes to train young men to kill the enemy, i do know if the only way is to teach them a total disrespect for human life, then the system must stop and rethink what our history of war has done to our civility. want to play world police? continue killing innocent citizens in the name of some holier-than-oil war or control chaos for drug lords? then we must be able to accept nut cases like zimmerman, we must surrender our freedoms to the police state, while our kids go on killing sprees at our worthless public schools. if we can turn a blind eye to Karzai, and Ass-wad and his wife, mexican drugs for aliens, political prostitution and white collar terrorists, then we get what we get! get used to it americans, we have been raised on lies and fairy tales, our government only wants our possessions and our children, they are more than happy to trade our souls to the "devil".

            • 7 votes
            #9.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:06 AM EDT

            brutisbear, Americans who didn't enlist to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan are mostly people who did not believe in the validity or necessity to go to war with those countries to fight terrorism.

            Bush lied to us about WMD. The war has cost our country trillions of dollars and destroyed countless lives, and all for what?

            Why would I want to send my son to fight a country that never attacked us?

            The way Seal Team 6 took out bin Laden was the way to do it, not go to war.

            Believe me, if I believed we had been attacked by the Iraqis I'd have enlisted myself.

            • 7 votes
            #9.4 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:31 AM EDT

            Mollypot....I so agree with you. His wife needs to get her head out of her A$$ and realize what her "wonderful loving husband" has done. After four tours to the middle east, I think would have a detremental effect on anyone's mental health. He snapped, plain and simple. I don't understand why he would murder women and children sleeping in their beds. I think his wife needs therapy to come to grips with this. I also think its horrible that the story printed the names of the Bales children. What is the point in that? It's like painting a target on their foreheads! Geez, journalists are morons!

            • 2 votes
            #9.5 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:01 AM EDT

            So what happened to all the money he 'bilked'? They seem to have never had much money, only struggles.

              #9.6 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:42 PM EDT
              Reply

              this is just one big mess of a situation, as for the wife, she's either brave or ill advised to go on television giving an interview, and this article detailing the names of the children? not sure that's such a wise idea, as for Bales himself, I'm not sure what to think, it seems odd that he would be able to get off base twice undetected, and why would you risk going back to the scene of the crime, or anywhere in the vicinity? whatever the circumstances, hopefully the truth, the REAL truth will prevail and all will be dealt with accordingly

              • 4 votes
              Reply#10 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:50 AM EDT

              He joined the Army two months after 9/11, after a Florida investment business failed and after he had worked with a string of securities operations.

              Uhhh, yeh, he had a million dollar judgement against him.

              Walked away from a mortgage, several incidents with alcohol and the police.

              This guy was no saint, and I realize none of us are.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#11 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:53 AM EDT

              Yes, he went to those houses knowing Taliban was there. He is a trained army sniper and good at his job. He went there to engage them because he was pissed over the IED incident. Yes, he probably lit up 2 in each house. The Taliban did the rest after he left. Whden he returned to the compound after his second mission, the Afghan guard said, "There had been a firefight." He said, "Yes, I did it." Meaning he had done what a sniper does - kill the enemy. Once he was confronted by authorities and told there were women and children killed he knew he had been set up and stated he was acting on orderfs and had only killed adult males, and 'lawyered up.' Only thing Bales is guilty of ius going after the Taliban which is his general overall mission which he is good at.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#12 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:53 AM EDT

              Yes, he probably lit up 2 in each house

              Oh OK then, just killing 2 innocent children in their sleep is OK.

              As long as it isn't 4 or 5.

              Brilliant.

              • 10 votes
              #12.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:58 AM EDT
              Comment author avatarPerry-2713557Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Williamofrites- you are nothing less than just a troll. I clearly meant that he lit up two Taliban in each house. Everyone and anyone in newsvine who's been following this knows you are an idiot. But, keep up the good work, some still don't know.

              • 1 vote
              #12.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:01 AM EDT

              He said, "Yes, I did it." Meaning he had done what a sniper does - kill the enemy

              When the day comes that a "brave soldier" kills innocent children in their sleep to protect my freedom, my freedom isn't worth half a roll of used toilet paper.

              • 12 votes
              #12.3 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:03 AM EDT
              Comment author avatarPerry-2713557Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Once again, moron, he didnt kill women and children in their sleep. I'm beginning to think YOU are some Muslim about 16 yrs of age who's never been any closer to the military beyond paintball and computer games. Living proof that mass media propaganda truely works.

                #12.4 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:07 AM EDT

                Williamofrites- you are nothing less than just a troll

                Once again, moron

                Everyone and anyone in newsvine who's been following this knows you are an idiot

                Ahh yes, the fallback position of the GOP/FOX crowd, calling childish names.

                • 7 votes
                #12.5 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:10 AM EDT

                perry what will you say if they find out the shell cases thats on the floor matches the bullets fired from his gun, plus he left base without permission even thou he is a trained sniper doesnt give him the right to leave anytime he wants,

                • 7 votes
                #12.6 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:50 AM EDT
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                JLG-4007201

                Yea, they did in some news link about his investment rip-offs..but oh so true, while he's in the service of his country, he can not be touched for it. I like how its also been said also..this 50 grand per victim's family was a gift from obomba for their familys lost... what happen to the USA ?..so this money can out of the presidents personal bank account?

                This wife ?..of course she's gong to say..oh, no way he could do this.. if she didn't she'd look like heck..well, maybe he could and not help his defense at all..I agree, its painting a target on the wifes and kids back now that the news finds it important that their names are revealed, whats the reason..was it that hard?..brillant reporting eh?.

                Look, he did it, and he's lucky we didn't allow them to try him in that country, our troops are the un-lucky one"s now..cause now there is a reason, books are one thing..blood is something else..

                oh, and its not " Lou Garrets disease " watch "the pride of the yankee's"

                • 1 vote
                Reply#13 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:00 AM EDT

                If his sole intent of joining the military was to evade his obligations with reference to a civil judgement against him (non-criminal), then, he would have joined th Coast Guard and gotten a tan. Instead, he became an army sniper with four tours, But, you idiots out there keep trumpeting the media's nonsense of trying to paint him the bad guy because of his past without thinking.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#14 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:04 AM EDT

                Did Perry just slam the Coast Guard? Wow!! If I knew that I would joined the Coast Guard instead of getting drafted in 1965. Come on Perry what kind of statement is that to make? Do you even know that the Coast Guard does? Also it is criminal to defraud some elderly person out of their savings regardless of what you think. Get off your high horse and stop calling everyone idiots, it shows that you are the one not thinking.

                • 8 votes
                #14.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:32 AM EDT
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                oh, well then if Bales would not do those things that should satisfy both the Afghani and the U.S. civil and military legal authorities, it appears these people just ALL, spontaneously broke out in a rash that looked so much like multiple gunshot wounds, they ALL died from them...

                • 1 vote
                Reply#15 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:06 AM EDT

                Greg - I seen this sort of thing in Vietnam many times. The Viet Cong would kill villagers and blame us for it. And, don't counter with My Lai. We did that one. I'm talking the numerous other times they killed their own people to set us up because they considered them collaborators. People here just don't understand propaganda, psychological warfare, and certainly have no clue about insurgency warfare.

                • 1 vote
                #15.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:10 AM EDT

                . And, don't counter with My Lai. We did that one.

                There's a new one for the debate club.

                You can't use an obvious retort to my preposterous assumptions because I say so.

                Is life fun being right because you say so??

                Quick, FOX is back on.

                • 6 votes
                #15.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:17 AM EDT
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                He learned lessons from a vietnam vet,didn't they kill innocent women and children during the war?

                • 2 votes
                Reply#16 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:12 AM EDT

                We bombed Dresden, Tokyo and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki,,,, oh wait,,, that doesn't count. That wasn't Vietnam.

                • 1 vote
                #16.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:22 AM EDT

                What a bunch of (arm chair soldiers) unless you have walked the walk and spent time in that crap hole country don't be so quick to crucify Sgt Bales.

                • 1 vote
                #16.2 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:34 AM EDT

                What a bunch of (arm chair soldiers) unless you have walked the walk and spent time in that crap hole country don't be so quick to crucify Sgt Bales.

                Unless you have walked the walk and spent the time in that crap hole city Wako don't be so quick to crucify David Koresh. <sarcasm>

                Your comment makes as much sense as mine. Stop making excuses for this POS and show some compassion for his victims. If you can't follow the USMC then DON'T VOLUNTEER!!!

                • 3 votes
                #16.3 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                My father is a Vietnam vet and he DID NOT kill women and children. The Viet-Cong did implant explosives in the children there though but noone wants to talk about that. Just like noone in the media is saying a word about the American soldiers murdered for burning materials that the insuregents wrote in. Why isn't the Taliban calling for their prosecution for defacing the Holy Koran? It's messed up on both sides, but I smell media bias and boy does it stink. BTW, I am NOT a Republican or a Democrat, before anyone starts making assumptions. I just use my brain and observe with a clear mind.

                  #16.4 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:24 AM EDT

                  @MegumiHatake

                  What threat did a months old infant pose.... in its sleep?

                  There is no rationalization for this. Bales is a cold-blooded murder and should be turned over to the Afghani people for justice.

                  • 4 votes
                  #16.5 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:30 AM EDT
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                  I'd like to know why more doctors are not speaking out on this.What is and was his medical condition.His family should be seeking medical help; for instance getting head scans done if he had head injuries and mri's done.Doctors can tell more than normal people guessing what was wrong.I'm speaking form experience i had with my late husband who went along time with a undiagnosed brain tumor.On last I was putting up with lots of abuse because of his illness; other wise he would not have done.It doesn't take much of brain damage on anyone to cause hugh problems.Just speaking from experience living with someone for several months with undiagnosed brain tumor and what can happen.

                    Reply#17 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:12 AM EDT

                    Whats do most of these posts have to do with the article? Please stick to comments on the specifics mentioned in the article and not rant about plotics, religion or conspiracy theories.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#18 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:14 AM EDT

                    She's just in shock. People close to serial killers can never believe it either.

                    I had a close relative do something incredible once. Not anything like this, but something immoral and unethical that I would have sworn he would never do. It leaves you disoriented, and very vulnerable while your world-view shifts. It will take years for her to fully come to grips with this--if she ever can.

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#19 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:14 AM EDT

                    What you're saying may be true, patter. And who could blame her if she IS in shock? SHE had nothing to do with it. Still, the more we find out in this story, the weirder it gets. And there's LOTS more to this than what the Military and the press are letting on, I assure you.

                    • 4 votes
                    #19.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:24 AM EDT
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                    "..he is like a kid himself"..Perhaps we should not have kids serve in the military.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#20 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:17 AM EDT

                    happy --

                    "..he is like a kid himself"..Perhaps we should not have kids serve in the military.

                    They have no choice. A mature human being wouldn't participate.

                    • 7 votes
                    #20.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:23 AM EDT
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                    Yes ARMY---give them a bunch of shrinks instead of real medical help by treating the LYMETHRAX as instructed and keep your mouth shut as they become chimps like Travis who rip people's faces off and don't know why.
                    And commit suicide at the rate of 15 a day as intended.
                    The Army says it’s committed to the health of the force, pointing out it has invested $710 million in behavioral health care and doubled the number of mental health workers since 2007.
                    Knowing they gave one lab the chore of making an Anthrax vaccine.

                    What does Anthrax antigens do in stealth prion proteins? We don't know. They refused to give us a test for prion synergy for 38yrs..

                    Now we will get to treat all the syndromes of unknown origin to cure, but not soon enough to stop the senseless criminals from infecting them all with even more infectious antigens because that's how they make their billions.
                    By denying its existance they can still infect everyone with lies of vaccine protection that only turn the immune system off more.

                    And it has worked so well the millions who now suffer like the Autism babies who are at a rate of one every 4 mins now. Of which 4 out of 5 diagnosed are boys, MS at one every 10 mins., Alzheimers at one every 1 min...along with all the other stupids they stuck us with defines where we will be if the failure are allowed to continue, because if they don't treat them now we will be raising anothers flag as intended.

                    The only chance Sgt. Bales has is to find an independent lab who will find the infections and the Anthrax stuck to the genes to prove the stealth infections 80% of us have are perpetuating the infections and sharing their genes to hide, are what caused the rage and can be treated to cure in all the men who received vaccines.
                    Just like the Autism babies to cure.

                      Reply#21 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:19 AM EDT

                      I assist moving companies and their clients. I have met many soldiers that have recently returned from Iraq. After several tours. Most of them seem OK. Once in a while their is that one that reminds you of the dog your not sure to trust. Bales had 4 tours and a head injury. One thing I have learned over the years my first thoughts are almost always right. If the the 4 tours and head injury didn't mess him up? I wonder if there is any realism to the Manchurian Candidate idea? Was this an experiment in that? Sci-Fi maybe? How many other old time movie gadgets have came true?

                        Reply#22 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:19 AM EDT

                        I wonder if there is any realism to the Manchurian Candidate idea? Was this an experiment in that? Sci-Fi maybe?

                        And Alcoa stocks rise 40%.

                        • 1 vote
                        #22.1 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:28 AM EDT
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                        The evidence is pretty overwhelming. This woman is in denial. Moms, dads, spouses, and children are always in denial.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#23 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:24 AM EDT

                        brutisbear5

                        When you walk in this mans shoes and serve combat tour after combat tour after combat tour... then you may have an opinion.

                        I have walked in this man's shoes, no he has walked in my shoes and I do not sympathize the many tours. He knew what he was getting into after reenlisting time after time. As far as promotion many soldiers are not selected for promotion. The comments coming from his wife is intended to solicit sympathy from the civilian world. He could of reenlisted to leave that unit for another assignment, or submitted a request for reassignment but he did not, yet we hear about him complaining of the Ft Lewis assignment through his wife.

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#24 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:29 AM EDT

                        While it is true that some wives can be in denial, it is also true (and much more true usually), that wives know their spouses better than anyone. She was simply stating what she felt. No reason to attack what she said. That's just rude.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#25 - Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:29 AM EDT
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