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Subscribe to RSSANKARA, Turkey -- Turkey's Jewish community was on Monday protesting a Turkish commercial that uses an old film footage of Adolf Hitler to sell shampoo.
The Chief Rabbi's office called Hitler "the most striking example of cruelty and savagery" and said using his image in a commercial was unacceptable in a statement.
The statement also demanded a public apology from the advertising company "to repair the damage this commercial has caused to society's conscience."
The commercial for a men's brand of shampoo has Hitler appear to be shouting in a dubbed-over Turkish voice: "If you are not wearing women's dress, you shouldn't be using women's shampoo either!"
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So much material from Der Untergang!
To be fair, the guy did have great hair. I wonder how many they put in each bottle...
What do you expect from a Muslim country.
I believe you are stupid. I also believe that if it was "Sambo" shampoo or "slave ship" conditioner no one would give a sh!t. But that would truly be "the most striking example of cruelty and savagery".
How about Stalin, how about Truman? Can we put them on commercials? They all killed innocent people, no? But hey, I guess they are not all as photogenic. Or perhaps one of them was an ally and the other was the president...
Mars please keep in mind that both groups of people were enslaved, tortured, experimented on, etc., throughout history for centuries at a time.
The "example of cruelty and savagery" refers directly to the continent-wide ethnic cleansing of one of those groups (and not the other). That was initiated by one man only, Adolf Hitler, who now appears in a shampoo commercial.
The Turkish have every right to use Adolf Hitler as an advertisement campaign he has been a joke now for so many years if the rest of the world can laugh at someone like him trying to take over the world and failing why cant the jewish community leave the past where it belongs in the past we all know hitler was a bad and terrible person but why should the rest of the world have to stay in the past with the jewish community.
Progress is Inevitable.
People like Osama Binladin and cubas Fidel Castro have been used in publicity for ages but use hitler and oh no your committing a world hater crime against the jewish communty my grandfather was an elderly jewish man when he was in germany but his children are not going to live in the past because today people are no longer like that.
I would buy a garden tiller sold by Genghis Khan, I would buy a dozen eggs sold by Ramses II, and I would beat those eggs wth an egg beater marketed by Alexander the Great.
Stoopid this is a very witty comment although this might insult a few more people then a hitler advertisement such as the chinese, the egyptians, the persians and the greek, yes alexander was a first generation persian greek.
But it is also a comment that has signifigance showing if you can get over Hitler so should everyone else over the last twelve years many people have used and publisised hitler just as much as these conquerers, tyrants and one great man by that i refer to alexander
Archelepago,
I understand how we should move on but using those who has committed atrocities of that scale should never be endorsed in anyway. Let them fade into black, dont constantly bring them back to life in commercial form....That's how I feel at-least.
Ataturk was Jewish.
In Germany this ad would get the sponsor a very long jail sentence.But in Turkey under the Islamic finatic regime anything goes. And a little cartoon about Mohammed and they go ballistic!!
Kind of funny ad, with Mohammed it would be funny too. Israelis should make the Mohammed one to get even.
Hitler Shampoo - 2-in-1 ethnic cleansing formula with conditioner . . .
Unbelievable that a commercial using Hitler to sell anything would ever get on the air.
When I was in Thailand 10 or 12 years ago there was a type of potato chip that used Hitler in its ads for awhile. If I remember they were called X chips or something similar and the ad basically said if Hitler ate these chips he would have been more fun and lovable instead of mean.
Not everybody is brainwashed into thinking that an ad using Hitler is unacceptable, while an ad using Stalin or Red Army is just fine. It is still called 'free market' in many parts of the world.
Hahaha. That's pretty bad, StMiller. But, the rhetorical message of that ad -- i.e. our chips could even make Hitler happy -- while borderline, is relatively innocuous. The real problem of this Turkish shampoo ad, is that it basically frames Hitler as a "spokesman" from whom men should take advice . . . even if it's something as ridiculous as hair care. Again, I'm shocked it made it on the air.
PDK-I noticed that. I am surprised it made it to the air as well, but then again we are talking about Turkey where 'genocide' is a very, very slippery term that they don't feel comfortable with. Wonder if Armenians see this issue about ad on some different level.
I don't mind it. I am jewish. I think if we put a hedge around Hitler, we in a way, make him a sacred figure. Marginalizing him, lampooning him, making him look silly, is not a problem for me. I would buy a garden tiller sold by Genghis Khan, I would buy a dozen eggs sold by Ramses II, and I would beat those eggs with an egg beater marketed by Alexander the Great.
Muslims have no objection to Hitler. They share his goal regarding the Jews. They were allies of his during WW2. Read about the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
StMiller - good point. It's probably a little less controversial in Turkey than it would be in some other markets.
The name of the shampoo featuring Hitler gesticulating while speaking at a rally is BIOMEN- for men only.This product apparently meets the critical eye of PM Erdogan,otherwise the product would not be on the market- Erdogan just closed a Kurdish newspaper because they featured a story about Kurdish New Year celebration in Iraq (Kurdistan province). It will never be Tuerkei ueber Alles.
mimi, explain more for those of us who are interested; but can't be informed on all levels....even though we try.
Add on: want to see the commercial go to- http://shine.yahoo.com/beauty/hitler-shampoo-commercial-turkish-biomen-sparks-outrage-172300783.html
This is the first exampe in a long line of shock-commercials to come. Our new generation of young people are what I would call the "here and now" generation. History is not as interesting as it used to be and with a computer on every desk, in every bag and in every pocket they can pull up their favorite search engine to learn about anything they want in an instant. With questionable accuracy to boot. This is also Turkey we are talking about, they weren't exactly against Hitler.
History to todays generation is something that happened two weeks ago. The present is anything they can see on the first page of Facebook or Twitter anything after that is old news. Kids are being programmed to be ignorant and there are also a lot of adults following suit. Lemmings just following the leader.
I can already picture the meeting, we need a spokesman for our Shampoo. Hey, I was watching this program over the weekend and there was this guy with a very unique mustache, I have honestly never seen anyone else with a mustache like that....ever. Plus, you know that Nazi Zombie game in Call of Duty, well they had that flag with the funny looking "X" in the middle and he was wearing one in the program I was watching. All the young video game players will recognize it and there's more sales. Anyway, this guy made a lot of speeches and we could just dub over him and I think it will be hilarious and sell a lot of our product. What do you think?
Why are the older guys looking at me like that???????
Some people will do anything to try and get Nazis to take a bath. Nazis can scrub all they want but they still do not come out clean.
This is wrong on so many levels. Other then the obvious one of Hitler being a sadistic mass-murderer, he isn't really famous for the clean appearance of his hair. Greasy, slicked back, comb-over hair that makes him look like the world's most dangerous nerd.
Maybe it's a cultural thing, but this makes no sense on ANY level.. at least Charles Manson had long flowing hair.. maybe he would have been a better sadistic killer for them to use.
Thanks Mimi, I looked at the commercial thanks to your link. I think it is pretty funny but wonder what's next Jeffery Dahmer commercial for Open Pit BBQ sauce?
Devils son - i just laughed out loud picturing the ghost of Dahmer sellling BBQ sauce.
and then I wondered if gay men in wisconsin were horribly offended that I found some humor in something so disgusting?
sorry to the handful of hetero's jeff ate, but it was mostly gay men I believe...so they have the most right to be the most offended and outraged.
Hahaha. I'm gonna wash that evil right outta my hair . . .
mimi,
Thanks for the link. I saw the commercial and was thoroughly disgusted, just not for the reasons others are. That advertising company should go out of business for malpractice and stupidity. What a lame ass concept.
Then again, I did see the commercial, so I guess they got my eyeballs - at least once. Positive impression? Not so much.
where do i purchase this in the nazi usa
Probably the South.
In CA or NY where the neo facists don't allow anyone who disagrees with fagism to speak their opinion and they want everyone to voice their allegiance to embracing fagism. If you don't want to tolerate it in your life or your child's education, you are not tolerated. But they cry for tolerance all day. Go figure.
chris-65
You know not where of you speak.
Just ask the people that are trying to destroy the Jews of Israel. If they are selling the same thing that Hitler was selling then they are equivalent.
What adverting moron agency thought this was an acceptable ad in all places, like Turkey, which is just a hop-skip-jump from the Middle East?
It is beyond stupid. That is racist at the least!
Turkey is mostly Islamic. Other religions are a very small minority. Islamic countries aren't usually concerned about promoting diversity in their cultures.
Hitler was always quite popular in Turkey, which fought along the Germans in WW2
@ Max,
What history are you looking at or are you just making it up as you go along? Turkey was neutral through most of the war and sided with the Allies late in the conflict by declaring war on Germany. While some say there was pro-German sentiment in certain circles, at no point was Germany allowed to use Turkey to move ships, aircraft or men through.
@Max - Wrong. Turkey was a neutral country during World War II. However, the Ottoman Empire was one of the Central powers fighting alongside Germany in World War I.
Ben64D -------- Are you joking? Turkey had a non-aggression treaty with Germany. They did not enter the war against them till a few days before it was over. They wanted to say they had been on the winning side when they knew Germany had been defeated.
You are right, Turks served in Wehrmacht and SS as volunteers, while Turkey remained neutral, my bad. Some historians estimate their numbers to be as high as 70,000.
@Gary,
There is a huge difference between a non-aggression treaty and "siding" with them. They weren't out there rolling their forces through Europe and Africa fighting the Allies as it was suggested. Like I said, they were neutral in the war effort whether we think its right or not
So exactly what about my post was wrong?
Blacks would not like the grand master of the kkk advertising sheets. The free world would not like nazis advertising Mengle med. products. Japan would not like to see Mao advertising workers in mines. Arabs would not like to see the Koran in advertising. ETC. People all over the world should ban all of these. It spreads hate.
Don't like it? Don't buy the shampoo... these Jews complain about everything, even if it is absolutely none of their business... unless some Jew is also peddling shampoo and his sales went down as a result of this ad campaign.
Nice, Max. Real nice. Maybe they should have used Ted Bundy or Pol Pot or Saddam or OBL. No one would have thought it to be in poor taste or idiotic or complained about one of those characters, either. (where's the sarcasm key???)
Although interesting that they chose hitler for a shampoo commercial. Judging from pix of him, he looked like he consistently had that mop pasted down with Crisco along with stories that he absolutely reeked. Not exactly the poster child for grooming or high fashion.
"These Jews..." Nice, Max... real nice. No, we do not complain about everything. Using Hitler as a spokeman for a shampoo commercial is reprehensible. Hitler was basically the original, modern day terrorist -- the ultimate terrorist -- in murdering 12 million people off the face of the earth. Notably, 6 million Jews. Hitler should only be used as an example of what hate and psychosis can do if allowed.
The point is that business has a right to use controversial image as part of their advertising - be it Hitler, Stalin, or Ted Bundy. It is their risk to take. And of course when Jews make a lot of money from a movie like "Inglorious Bastards" that is perfectly fine - even when they also capitalize on the Nazi theme (that movie was flat out awful, btw.)
max, do the world a favor and off yourself, no point to really reason with your demented logic.
Max^108 you are probably closer to the truth than you will ever know !! Now if the same shampoo was using the genocidal mass murderer Uncle Joe "Jewish" Stalin on the label it would have a Kosher "U" and "D" on the label somewhere for sure.
And people of good conscience have a right to try and put a stop to it. Would you also approve of Fred Phelps endorsing a product or OBL's image used to promote something???
Wow max that was bad.
Bigot
I'm not usually happy to see a collapse but in this case, delighted to see it. Took way too long for this thing to collapse.
Max ----- What you have a right to do and what you should do are to different things.
Max you have got to be a moron if you don't see the difference between Hitler shampoo and inglorious bastards. And it was a great movie.
Who is Fred Phelps, and why should I care?
If the customer finds advertising offensive, they will not buy the product. It is called 'the market response'.
Personally, I buy stuff that I need, and find acceptable in terms of quality, regardless if they use the image of Hitler, Dick Cheney, or Elizabeth Taylor to sell it.
Max ----- While I disagree with your position, you have every right to hold it and state it in a society that respects the most fundamental human right of freedom of thought and expression. Your comment should not have been collapsed. The answer to speech with which you disagree is not censorship but more speech in opposition.
gary, while I've agreed with all of your other posts, I still think it was right to collapse this because the collapse does send a very loud message without censorship - just like voting someone up sends a message, as well. You can still open the post to read it, if you like. It's not a deletion.
To some extent, I think Max is right: the advertisers should be allowed to say what ever they want. But I certainly would encourage everyone to boycott the !@#$ out of the company that sold it, and the station that would take the money to broadcast it.
What country are you in, Max because you can't possibly be in America and not know who FP is.
I just googled that moron and I'm not one bit surprised I did not know his name while living in US - it is not my area of interest. But if some merchant in US wants to use his image in advertising, it is their choice.
Poor taste from the Turks, if it had been them that he tried to exterminate, the howling would be heard all the way to Mecca!
Wonder what they would say if someone used an image of Mohammad to sell toothpaste.
Or an Armenian selling kosher hotdogs
'Mein Kampf....to keep mein hair clean'
No one has ever accused the Turks of being intelligent.
It would have been acceptable only if it had been a "no more tears" shampoo like Johnson Johnson baby shampoo. I could have shown Hitler removing dandruff with a handgun.
It was flea & tick shampoo.
Wow Max^108, your a real "richard" "even if it is absolutely none of their business"???? I believe that protesting against Hitler and Nazis is the right of every Jew and every "free" person on this world. Ignorance was a strong factor during the Holocaust. You don't turn your cheek to such slime, unless, of course, you have a bottle of this shampoo.
turks are little hitlers, themselves. armenian murderers.
Yes, an the United States are genocidal maniacs having wiped out the indigenous population and enslaved copious quantities of Africans.
Hitler is an obscenity.
Whether you're anti-semitic, pro-semitic, semitic, or none of the above, that's about all that needs to be said I think.
Very well said, billVA.
Israel is the most non religiously diverse nation on the planet. There TV commercials and ads, signs etc. insult almost every religion culture on the planet.
Raymond,what an idiotic statement. You've never been in Israel, and you try to sound intelligent. Ads and signs in Israel have nothing to do with insulting anybody. they look just like signs in NY, London or Paris, except they are on Hebrew.
And there are signs in Arabic, and Israel is quite tolerant of its Homosexual population... which brings to mind an interesting question...
How accomodating are Arab countries to their Homosexual populations?
archeim, way out of context. Just for your information, Turks are not Arabs. israel is as genocidal as hitler. Let's go back to topic, shampoo vs. hitler. Not too tacktful, but at some point ppl got to let go...
I am aware that Turks are not Arabs... i just was merely citing an example, as the OP stated that Israeli tv and signs insult every group or culture on the planet. I then stated how Israel treated other groups that were persecuted in Arab countries.
Israel is as Genocidal as Hitler? Are you even serious? Israel sends trucks and trucks of food into a country that continuously bombards them with rockets, mortars, and previously suicide bombers. Israel also provides the means for them to have electricity.
That's not really genocidal.
Israeli hospitals (complete with both Jewish and Israeli Arab Doctors) will do life saving surgeries on a pro bono basis for people who dont have the money to pay for it... this includes people from Gaza, as well as people from the "west bank" and so on.
Not really genocidal.
Perhaps you should revisit what genocide means?
It's his final solution..... for dandruff. Just grab a bottle and head for the shower.
Wow Loki! Hilarious AND disturbing. Well played!
Pretty stupid of them. But then, so was the Armenian Genocide.
Jews always whining about something.
Unknown1, apparently empthy is what is "unknown" to you. What if the German race had blue skin, and Hitler's "final solution" included eliminating anyone whose skin was not blue. I don't think you'd be quite so callous if half of your family tree had been gassed or starved to death in concentration camps because they did not have blue skin.
NC frankly i'm getting sick of hearing about the jews and hitler. People are all Evil not just one. empathy is good but so is forgiveness. German people regret what happen as much as the Jewish so why keep throwing it in their face. Why not bury the past and let it die.
Your grandparents should have gone to the ovens. Your gene pool should have been eliminated generations ago. (No whining from you now!)
Unknown - you may notice that NC made no such insult of Germans in general, and Jewish me has met quite a few Germans and many more of German descent that correctly abhor what Hitler did.
NC was merely stating that Hitler was not fond of Jewish, Gypsy, and many other walks of life, and if you were alive during that time and found yourself to be not on the "Approved walks of life" list, you may be speaking differently. At no time during his post did he say anything negative about the German people.
"Why not bury the past and let it die?"
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." (Santayana)
Hitler was a monster, and his memory should be kept alive, and what he did should be told to future generations... so that no one should repeat it.
Unkown1 - As George Santayana so accurately put it: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Honestly, after reading your last post I regret even engaging you in this discussion, (and I feel like I need a shower too).
NC - Wonder Twin Powers Activate?
Archeim - Wonder Twin Powers Activate! I must admit I had to google this reference to understand it. But if we use our powers to try to rid the world of ignorant, racist comments and rants, then I'm all in. But I gotta warn you, I don't look good in spandex :-)
Always remember when reading these message boards: Individuals in prisons, mental institutions, and the public library all have access to the internet. And apparently some also have jobs in marketing in Turkey...
I'm Jewish. My mom was in a concentration camp when she was a little girl. I lost most of my family on her side during WWII.
I don't see how anyone thought this would be a good idea.
I'm so sorry. My sympathies to you, ark614. I have a friend who was also in a camp when she was a little girl.
Has anyone seen the commercial? I don't understand anything being said but it doesn't appear to celebrate hitler. In fact it seems to be making a mockery of him. Which I think is fine.
Sounds like something John Cleese would say on Monty Python while playing Adolph Hil[-]ter.
No matter what your race or religion, Hitler should be evil to!!
How about Stalin? Was he a good guy?
If you're an anti-semite like Max or theHoosier plow boy, why don't you just convert to Judaism? Once you do, you become part of the tribe and are eligible for huge cash payments we still all get from the Catholic church for killing Christ, owning the mainstream international media and directing the world-wide banking system. That's our new marketing campaign to go up against all the Christian Evangelical hogwash, "Don't Be Jealous, Be Jewish". There, doesn't it make it easier for all you ignorant haters?
Jewish me gets no such payments.
::sad panda::
Me either... But if you make "Don't be Jealous, Be Jewish" t-shirts, I want one!
Ha ha, it's not enough to be "just" Jewish. You also need to have a VERY ZIONIST attitude and be part of that "club" who is running the money collected from all the law suits they run against everything that could smell like anti-semite somehow. :-)
I'm wondering how long it will take until some Jewish lawyer will attack the Turkish Government to ask for financial compensations for all the pain created by that ad for the Nazi atrocities committed some 70 years ago in a different region of Europe.
I think Norman Finkelstein wrote at large about that type of Jews. Unfortunately they exist.
LM - unfortunately Norman Finkelstein exists. He would have made a lovely Kapo.
Your statement itself regarding the lawsuits is quite anti-semetic itself. That is what we call a faulty generalization.
I really wish i had all this money that all the haters think i have, by reason of being Jewish. I could do some amazing things with philanthropy.
In my humble opinion if the shoe was on the other foot, Jews could have shown hitler a thing or two about extermination.
http://www.scottmanning.com/content/nazi-body-count/
if your humble opinion is speaking of the ersatz Palestinians... you'll notice that their numbers are actually growing, and the number of those dead in over 60 years is nowhere CLOSE to the number of people of all walks of life that Hitler and Co. Murdered during and before WWII.
So... "us Jews" really are terrible at exterminating things.
I suspect there is a reason why your opinion is still humble. Mostly because it's wrong.
Zazzletow ------- And the Turks have the audacity to make laws prohibiting the very discussion of what they did to the Armenians. In Turkey you can be imprisoned for discussing the issue. Can there be any doubt of Turkey's culpability?
unknown1 ------- The Jews were not threatening Germans in the 1930s. The Germans attacked and murdered them without provocation. The Palestinians are threatening Jews today and vow to murder each and every one and wipe Israel off the map. The Jews have every right to oppose this attempt to annihilate them. You do see the difference?
gary-309869: I do not agree with your statement. If you really foster properly in the history, you will find out that the Jews (because of the rising to power of NSDAP led by Hitler in 1928-1930) in England and America have officially declared war to Germany.
They have also started to not buy German products from German stores, etc.
Once the NSDAP got to power and Hitler became the "fuhrer" the Nazi started to run the same propaganda against the German Jews.
It is very unfortunate that, when big financial moguls, Governments, political leaders fight each others, those who will be most punished are normal people who don't have that much to do with all that indoctrination on both sides. They are caught inbetween and must - more or less - follow the direction in which they are pushed.
LM - so it's totally okay then!
Boycotts are always a reason for Mass Murder.
Did the Gypsies, Gays, and Blacks and anyone else Hitler didnt like join in on the boycotting?
US should cut all ties with Turkey. Anyone who will use that shampoo will burn in hell!!
Any action that would hurt Jews' feelings should be condemnd to the highest extent possible. Jews are gods chosen one! Dont ef with them!!
Not a problem. Turks don't shower.
you jest
The Arab world supported Hitler in WWII.
Yakity --------- Of course they did. Read the Koran and see what they want to do the the Jews---Just exactly what Hitler was doing.
Gary is a faggot!!!
thank you for your time :)