Brits revel in gloom ahead of London Olympics, but don't believe the gripe

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LONDON -- If grumbling ever becomes an Olympic sport, the United Kingdom has to be a surefire bet for gold.

The level of complaints, fears and general discontent about the 30th Olympiad in London this summer has reached fever pitch, moving well-known commentator David Randall, of The Independent on Sunday newspaper, to write a column entitled "Come on, Britain! Stop moaning! It's the Olympics, for heaven's sake!"


Some fear too many people will come to London, causing a "perfect storm" of congestion on the roads -- so bad that lives could be endangered -- along with congestion on the subways, and also on the Internet; others think that actually fewer visitors than usual will come because ordinary tourists will be put off, so the games will provide little or no boost to the city's economy.

Composer Andrew Lloyd Webber even predicted "a bloodbath of a summer" for London's theaters after a slump in advance orders for tickets.

Then there has been a slew of gripes about tickets for Olympic events, such as not being able to get them unless you are a member of the super-rich, and unnecessary secrecy about the ticketing process.

Some worry London will get a bad name if visitors are ruthlessly gouged for every cent, by unscrupulous landlords, over-priced hotels or expensive Olympic souvenirs, for example.

The International Olympics Committee President Jacques Rogge said the organization is "happy" with the progress and that a great legacy had already been left. ITV's Rags Martel reports.

 

However, one of the main groups representing London taxis seemed somewhat put out after it tried unsuccessfully to get approval to increase fares by a hefty 22 percent during the games. Allowed only a 5.3 percent raise, a drivers' representative suggested that many cabbies might decide not to show up for work.

Morris-dancing anarchists?
Other complaints include the potential $17 billion cost of the event to taxpayers, and that Scotland, some 500 miles to the north of London, will see little benefit from the presence of the Games in the U.K. capital. 

Labor unions have also been threatening to go on strike during the games to protest the government's austerity measures. 

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Morris dancers, similar to these Leicester Morrismen dancing in Newtown Linford in 2010, may stage flash mob-style protests after being left out of the opening ceremony, The Daily Mail reported. Morris dancing stretches back some 600 years, but its origins are obscure.

And, if all that wasn't enough, there's the fear of a large-scale terrorist attack, and other assorted threats -- of varying degrees of seriousness -- from solar storms, diseases spread by shaking hands, Morris-dancing anarchists, and, cue the scary music, the "Illuminati."

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Any sports enthusiast looking forward to the spectacles of Usain Bolt on the track, LeBron James on the court and Alex Morgan on the soccer field might be somewhat discouraged by all this negativity.

'It's cathartic'
But Peter Catterall, lecturer in history at Queen Mary, University of London and editor of the journal National Identities, told msnbc.com that this would be a "cultural misreading" of the current outbreak of moaning.

"I think it reflects, if you like, a national history," he said. "The national narrative is often about making the best of heroic defeat, like [the Second World War evacuation of] Dunkirk and so on. The national experience in Britain is not one that's tended to create a sense in which you can just 'seize that hill.'"

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"There's a tendency to think in terms of what could go wrong, rather than what could go right," he said. "It's a kind of low-level grumbling amongst people who are often quite good at grumbling. I think also people quite like grumbling, it's cathartic."

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Olympic organizers may even have taken this into account in their planning.

"I do think in part the public authorities have been trying to get the moaning out of the way early," Catterall said, although he added that this "may well put off some visitors."

An age-old attitude?
This kind of attitude may go back at least as far as what was arguably the world's first international event for the masses, London's Great Exhibition of 1851.

It was essentially a trade fair showing off the best products from across the world -- exhibitors included China, Persia (now Iran), the United States, India, Tunisia, Philippines and many European countries -- and it attracted more than 6 million visitors during its five-month run.

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Will Brits start celebrating the Games when they actually begin? A man sits in the Atlas cafe in Leyton near the Olympic Park in London, England, on March 22, 2012.

However, in the run-up to the exhibition, Londoners expressed a string of complaints and worries that are notably similar to the current ones about the Olympics.

"I think there was a parallel in terms of all these fears," Michael Leapman, author of a book about the Great Exhibition, called "The World for a Shilling," said.

The prospect of hordes of visitors sparked alarm about congestion -- and as it turned out there were some traffic jams of the horse-and-carriage variety -- and the spread of disease, Leapman told msnbc.com.

And while tickets could be bought for a shilling, prices were increased at the weekends and other times to enable the wealthy to enjoy the exhibits without rubbing shoulders with the "hoi polloi," he added. Leapman said the author Charles Dickens was on a committee to represent the interests of working-class people, but the exhibition's organizers paid so little attention to it that Dickens quit.

Security was another big concern, with the event coming not long after several European revolutions in 1848 and amid unrest associated with the working-class Chartist movement in the U.K.

"The Duke of Wellington [a national hero after his victory over Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815] wanted to put a troop of cavalry into Hyde Park, but the government said that would be a bit too provocative," Leapman said.

The government also attempted to set up a register of accommodation with set prices, but Leapman said most landlords resisted signing up, trusting the free market to give a better return.

'Enthusiasm'
But the generally positive outcome of the event gives Leapman, who has tickets to watch hockey, some comfort amid all the present-day moaning.

He said that while there might be "some inconvenience" during the Olympics "I have a feeling it will be a great success, partly judging from the Great Exhibition."

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And so the views of Hugh Robertson, the U.K. government's minister for sport and the Olympics, should perhaps not be viewed with the usual British cynicism toward politicians.

"My experience of the Games across the country has been one of fantastic support and enthusiasm," he told msnbc.com in a statement, noting the "huge demand" for tickets.

"The Royal Wedding showed that Britons know how to get behind national events, and London 2012 will be the chance to do that on a giant scale," Robertson added. "We [are] determined that everybody who comes to London for the Games has an amazing time."

John Powell, chairman of leading athletics club Belgrave Harriers, is exactly the sort of person who should be bursting with enthusiasm for the Games.

He will carry the Olympic torch and is the coach of sprinter James Ellington, who is a medal prospect for the U.K. if he makes it through the trials.

Powell told msnbc.com that he was "very excited" about carrying the flame; and it would be "amazing" to coach an athlete to a medal, the "pinnacle" of his 36 years of coaching.

But even he has a gripe.

If Ellington wins gold, Powell, his coach of some 13 years, will watch his triumph on television because, he said, he and many other coaches will not be given access to the stadium, a decision he described as "shambolic and a scandal."

"That really does take the edge of it from my point of view," Powell said.

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Thank God that we here in Chicago are not getting the Games like Obama, Oprah and Daley wanted.

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Reply#28 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

I loved the games in Los Angeles. Mostly because I live in San Diego.

    #28.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:27 PM EDT
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    Stay Home and watch it on the Tele or Internet if you can get it. Let the Blue Bloods have their Fun whilst they Heli in from above.

    The Olympics are no longer for your average Dick or Jane...

      Reply#29 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

      I think the only time the English are not whining is while sharing tea and crumpets and brown nosing royal ass.

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      Reply#30 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

      Quit whining about the English!

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      #30.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:51 AM EDT
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      The socialists have been dragging down the culture for decades and these creatures of self-loathing and self destruction will see it through till the end of Great Britain.

        Reply#31 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

        Where to start? Maybe if you could be a bit more specific in your rage I could have a go. What is it about Socialism that angers you so much? I hear lots of Americans talking of it as if its a dirty word. What do you understand of socialism? Im genuinely curious.

        PS. Great Britain is only a socialist country in my dreams. We have socialist institutions, like the NHS, police, firemen etc, but so do you, no? (Except NHS, I understand you have nothing like this?)

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        #31.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

        You understand right. We don't have anything like that. Don't let anybody take it away from you either.

          #31.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

          The Tories are having a damn good go at it Rufus, where there is profit, there are Tories salivating. The NHS is very precious to the vast majority of us. I truly hope you will get something similar, if the majority over there want it, that is.

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          #31.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:57 PM EDT
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          Another over-commercialized, over-priced event designed by the 1% of the richest to be financed by the 99% of the taxpayers, to put millions in profits in the pockets of the 1% while offloading the risk to everyone else.

          I'll pass.

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          Reply#32 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

          The reason people are not that happy re the games is that our money has been spent and not all of it wisely, ordinary working people in the street are not able to get tickets thus genuine fans have been priced out (c4 news had a report on 1 such individual). Yes we all like to moan and I hope it goes off without a hitch but I am not holding my breath. The legacy is that in a time of austerity we are spending cash we don't have.....

            Reply#33 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

            The Olympics are a joke with lots of contrived "sports." Let the Brits have them!!

              Reply#34 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

              One valid point comes out of this story. A country imposing austerity measures on it's citizens is not an appropriate venue for a lavish Olympic extravaganza.

              The Olympics should be put on hold during the current world wide depression.

                Reply#36 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

                That will go over like a lead balloon.

                  #36.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
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                  Love the Brits, great sense of humor but they complain about everything. I guess if you ate their food, you might complain as well.

                  Sadly, the debt from the Olympics will put them in a class with Greece and will be another set back for the EU. I would short the UK right now.

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                  Reply#37 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                  We're doomed. I just know it. :O)

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                  Reply#38 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                  Yeah well Andy... look who we are hanging out with here. We need to stir some turds before I get depressed and jump off a bridge or something. Sheesh.

                    #38.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:14 PM EDT
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                    I think the cost of the olympics has gotten out of hand. This article mentions $17 billion to host it. At that price, who wants it? Why should a city have to rebuild itself to host the olympics? Its gotten crazy.

                      Reply#39 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                      Pip Pip, stiff upper lip, and all that. Can not comprehend those Brits, a Socialist Utopia, and they still bitching. Frankly, for my part, they could shut down the Olympics world wide, never miss it. Near as I can tell, the "games" have not contributed to anything noteworthy. Still have wars, starving populations, slavery, dictators, incompetent governments, and people that continue to vote for them.

                        Reply#40 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

                        Just remember, every time you use the Fosbury Flop, or do a back-flip on ice skates, you have the Olympics to thank.

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                        #40.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:36 PM EDT
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                        Where's Winston Churchill when you need him the most? "We will fight them on the beaches" OOpppsss wrong quote...."We will welcome them on the beaches" etc; etc; LOL!!!!!!!

                          Reply#41 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

                          Have the labor issues been resolved or will there be strikes? Just trying to lighten things up.

                            Reply#42 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                            Eventually the Doctor will show up and set things right, it was predicted.....

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                            Reply#43 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                            I think the only people that still like the 'games' are the die hards and the very rich that can afford to be gouged. They know they are being taken for a ride but can afford it. The average guy can still watch it on the tv but the Olympic Games have lost the original luster that it had many years ago. Greed and gouging has unfortunately taken over and it's all about how much we can suck out of the tourists that come to watch. I think the organisers have something to do with the $17 billion dollar price tag so someone's making a lot of bucks on this ridiculously insane price tag!!!

                              Reply#44 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                              I absolutely love the UK. No BS from the Brits, that's for sure. Complete and, sometimes brutal, honesty. Hard to find that anywhere else. From those of us who are American, but would love to be honorary Brits, we wish you nothing but good luck this summer.

                                Reply#45 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

                                Steve- 2433382 - come on over !! will stick a beer in the fridge for you - you know we brits like out beer warmish !!

                                  #45.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:22 PM EDT
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                                  It's so interestesting how the discussion, regardless of the article, always goes south to wallow in the political quagmire -

                                  As for the Brits, they braved the blitz, standing tall - perhaps its the weather that makes them so strong.

                                  As for the Olympics - they predicted all sorts of dire problems when it came to L.A. - reality: it was great - no traffic (so many government workers took vacations), no problems - merchants made a bundle. I'm willing to bet that the UK and many of the surrounding countries will see a definite up tick in commerce. Bottom line; it will be a good time for all - any opportunity for the wheels of commerce to be greased is a good thing. It is said that the love makes the world go round, but it's commerce.

                                    Reply#46 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

                                    The Olympics are a great place for whacked out bombers.

                                      Reply#47 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

                                      Misericorde - We Are Not Afraid- - remember that slogan from after the 7/7 bombings ? Still valid today mate

                                        #47.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:25 PM EDT
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                                        We are British - We Moan !!! - about the weather, politics, the weather, money, the weather, taxes - you name it - but when things get down to the nitty-gritty we are a proud bull dog nation and we will get on with it and be secretly pleased and smug about it but would rather cut out our tongue than 'blow our own trumpet' (thats boasting or being overtly happy about something to you USA citizens :) !!) I am quite excited about the Queens Jubilee and loved the Royal Wedding - even tho I watched it in Turkey on Russia Today TV whilst on holiday - we brits do pomp & ceremony very well with Royal stuff but I have been having nightmares worrying about what horrors the 'trendy' 'sarf london geezers' who are in charge of the Opening Ceremony will drag out - I, for one, will be watching through my fingers !!! pip pip & chin up - what ho !!!

                                          Reply#48 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

                                          Yeah, ol' mitt he's always a smiling, big ol' grin on his face all the time. Shoot if I had all of his millions I'd be smiling too. Yankee born and Yankee bred.

                                            Reply#49 - Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                                            What most Brits are upset about is that our government has spent billions of tax payers money building the Olympic theme park, and yet this is supposed to be a time of austerity. They plan to cut another ten billion from the welfare budget, I don't know how they expect people to live, when there's so many people out of work. And all this so they can build an an enormous stadium that they still haven't found anyone to rent or buy after the games. It will probably just sit there empty for most of the time.

                                            Maybe they'll just blow it like Rik Clay said.

                                              Reply#50 - Thu May 24, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                                              Oh we Brits do like a good moan!! Personally I just tell the miserable @%&*#@% to lighten up and stop whingeing!

                                                Reply#51 - Mon May 28, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

                                                Quite a good skit on Monty Python called "Dead Bishop on the Landing" that's available on youtube...it's all about moaning..."moan, moan, moan!"

                                                Plenty of articles out there dedicated to the pandemic known as "English misery". Plenty to moan about, the food for the most part sucks, everything is expensive, and the weather is gloomy a lot of the time.

                                                I guess I will go and have a good moan now...LOL

                                                  #51.1 - Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:53 AM EDT
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