Pope Benedict meets Fidel Castro after urging Cubans to seek 'authentic freedom'

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Pope Benedict XVI met with Cuba's revolutionary icon Fidel Castro Wednesday, the last day of a trip to bolster the Roman Catholic church's relationship with the Communist government.

HAVANA -- Pope Benedict met with Cuban revolutionary icon Fidel Castro after saying mass in Havana Wednesday, Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said.

The meeting comes toward the close of the pope's three-day visit to the communist-run island, during which the pontiff called for greater freedoms and a bigger role for the Roman Catholic Church in Cuban society.


Fidel Castro said Tuesday in one of his columns, or "Reflections," published online that he would meet briefly with the pope "with pleasure." Castro is now mostly retired but still occasionally writes columns and meets with visiting leaders.

According to the Vatican spokesman, this is the first time since his illness that Castro has gone out to call on a visitor. Heads of state usually come to see him.

Castro was dressed in a blazer with what looked like a scarf wrapped around his neck. He was accompanied by his wife and two adult sons.

According to the Vatican, the two men had an animated dialogue. They joked about their age, and the pope told Castro: "I'm old, but I still know how to do my job."

Castro told the pope he had been following his visit on television and asked about changes in the Catholic liturgy since his days in Jesuit schools, according to Lombardi.

In an unusual homily, the pontiff called for free thought, and more freedom for the Catholic Church in Cuba. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

In his prepared departure remarks, the pope criticized the U.S. embargo, saying that the task of building a society of broad vision is "worsened when restrictive economic measures, imposed from outside the country, unfairly burden its people."

Earlier Wednesday, before his meeting with Castro, the pope urged Cubans to search for "authentic freedom" as he celebrated an open-air Mass for some 300,000 people in Havana's Revolution Square.

Crowds began gathering during the night to hear the leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics speak in the sprawling plaza that Castro, 85, used to fill with big crowds and fiery revolutionary rhetoric in hours-long speeches.

Surrounded by 10-story high images of Castro's revolutionary comrades Ernesto "Che" Guevara and Camilo Cienfuegos, the pope read a sermon that continued one of the main themes of his trip -- that Cuba should build a more open society, based on truth, justice and reconciliation.

"The truth is a desire of the human person, the search for which always supposes the exercise of authentic freedom," the pontiff said.

In an apparent dig at Marxism, the pope also said some "wrongly interpret this search for the truth, leading them to irrationality and fanaticism; they close themselves in 'their truth,' and try to impose it on others."

Delicate dance for Pope Benedict in Cuba

Hours before the Mass began, the area was filled with people waving Cuban flags and wearing broad hats and holding umbrellas to shield them from the sun.

They wildly welcomed the successor of the much-beloved Pope John Paul, who made a historic, groundbreaking trip to Cuba in 1998 and preached from the same square.

'Message of love'
Benedict, wearing purple vestments, read out a virtual shopping list of rights that the Church still lacked in Cuba as President Raul Castro, Fidel's younger brother, sat in the front row. Both of the Castro brothers were educated by Jesuits, the worldwide Catholic order.

"To carry out this duty, she [Cuba] must count on basic religious freedom, which consists in her being able to proclaim and to celebrate her faith also in public, bringing to others the message of love, reconciliation and peace which Jesus brought to the world," he said.

PhotoBlog: Pope Benedict celebrates mass with 300,000 Cubans

While Benedict acknowledged "with joy" the great improvements since John Paul's visit, he added that "nonetheless, this must continue forwards, and I wish to encourage the country's government authorities to strengthen what has already been achieved and advance along this path of genuine service to the true good of Cuban society as a whole."

The faithful could be "at once a citizen and a believer", the pope assured the government, adding that strengthening religious freedom consolidates social bonds and lays the groundwork for securing the rights of future generations.

"This is why the Church seeks to give witness by her preaching and teaching, both in catechesis and in schools and universities," he said.

The mass was also watched by Miami's Cuban Catholics, including a crowd of about 80 people at the Ermita Caridad Church in Coconut Grove, Fla., NBC 6 Miami reported.

Since his arrival in the eastern city of Santiago, the pontiff has spoken of Cuba's need for reconciliation and a more open society, with the Church at its side as a buffer against "trauma" or social upheaval.

"We hope he brings peace ... and an end to the U.S. embargo," said Belkis Martin Rodriguez, 49, walking to Revolution Square dressed in jean shorts, with her mother and 8-year-old son.

Asked if she hoped the visit would bring reconciliation between the communist government, dissidents and exiles in Miami, she said, "Let each remain in their own place. If people left for Miami, let them stay there and be happy. Let the Church stick to its own field, religion, and let the government handle the politics."

Pope, Raul Castro meet, but Cuban official vows no political reform

In talks on Tuesday with Raul Castro, the pope urged a bigger role for the Church and asked that the government consider making Good Friday, the day Christians commemorate Christ's death, a national holiday. Good Friday is less than two weeks away. Fidel Castro reinstated Christmas as a holiday ahead of the landmark visit of John Paul that helped improve long-strained Church-state relations.

Jailed U.S. contractor
The Vatican during Tuesday's meetings also made several "humanitarian requests," without giving details but possibly having to do with political prisoners or jailed American contractor Alan Gross, who is serving a 15-year sentence for illegally installing Internet networks on the communist-run island.

The State Department would be very grateful if the Pope were to raise the issue of Gross during his visit, spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

"We obviously are hopeful that the Pope will continue to be strong on all of the human rights issues in Cuba, religious freedom, and it would be a very, very good thing if the Cuban government were to take this opportunity to release Alan Gross," Nuland said.

At a time when Church-state relations are the warmest they've been since the 1959 revolution, Benedict has not been afraid to poke the Cuban government in some sensitive places.

On the flight to Mexico beginning his trip on Friday, the pope said communism "does not correspond with reality" and that Cuba needs a new economic model.

However, Marino Murillo, a vice president in the Council of Ministers and the country's economic reforms czar, made it clear that change to Cuba's one-party political system is not in the works.

"In Cuba, there won't be political reform," he said at a news conference at Havana's Hotel Nacional, the international press center for the pope visit. "We are talking about the update of the Cuban economic model to make our socialism sustainable."

Murillo said the government welcomed all ideas, but would not allow them to be imposed on the country.

In response, Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said "the Church is not trying to impose solutions. We know it is a long road and that the history of Cuba is complex."

Reuters, NBC News and msnbc.com staff contributed to this report. 

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wish i could piss in the popes mouth

    Reply#31 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

    Can anyone here envision Fidel protecting a Pedophile??

      Reply#32 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

      the holy Nazi and a Commie. let us pray.

        Reply#33 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

        Why is Palpatine is meeting with Castro ...? Should we bet worried?

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        Reply#34 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

        there is no hope in the pope.

          Reply#35 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

          Castro's hypocrisy is monumental. What a murdering, dictatorial creep.

            Reply#36 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

            Yeah, he is the only dictator we didn't install and financed in Latin America, therefore he is worse than the other dictators who were our friends and did the same things to their people, but we couldn't have cared less.

            Now that's hypocrisy to the highest degree.

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            #36.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

            Castro's heavy hand of controlling the people of Cuba has paid off , they do make a great cigar.

              #36.2 - Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:25 AM EDT
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              That was one of the most meaningless meetings in all of history between two nonrelevant old men.

                Reply#37 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

                will, these two old men are more adept at geo-political practice than your cognitive functioning wii ever allow you to be.

                  #37.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:17 PM EDT
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                  What a great photo! It is classic and everyone is going to want one. They both look great. I'm surprised how well Castro looks - he must be 150yrs. old by now but he looks very good and that is the best photo of the Pope I've ever seen. Excellent photo.

                    Reply#38 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                    I knew Fidel Castro was old,but when I saw the current picture of him,I thought he was father times evil twin.

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                    Reply#39 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                    Random, obviously you are a commie sympathizer. You can't fool me. Pathetic try.

                      #39.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

                      Yeah, he and the pope sitting there together look like two over-the-hill drag queens.

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                      #39.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                      klone, it's time for you to change your proffession (how much does a drag queen make?).

                        #39.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:37 PM EDT
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                        The Pope wants a more relevant role of the Catholic Church in Cuba?

                        Well kids, get prepared for some real hanky panky from your priests teachers, you've had it too good until now, safe and sound in your schools.

                          Reply#40 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                          "Do you get to tell people to kill other people too ?" ... said the pope to the very much loved leader of a pile of dirt and all who live on said pile of dirt.

                          Cuba's cost is ripe for the pickin too, go gets some $$

                            Reply#41 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                            Two Dictators in one meeting, NO surprise here.

                              Reply#42 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                              luv, and have been perceived as such from the most powerful nation in the world (USA). They are good at geo-political practice aren't they? In reality neither of them are a threat to us and the world knows this.

                                #42.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:37 PM EDT
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                                So the Pope criticizes the Cuban regime before he arrives, then zips his lips on the subject when he gets to Cuba.

                                Wussy.

                                Oddly enough, Castro is probably the more morally honest of the two and the lesser of the two evils when it comes to the damage done to humanity historically.

                                  Reply#43 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

                                  E, oddly, humans can sometimes learn from their mistakes and success and the complex relation btw. both.

                                    #43.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

                                    Yep, at least Castro does not wear white but an olive uniform to remind himself and others that one gains and power not by prayers but by fighting and remains there not by love but through force. Saviors exist in fairy tales and the people of Cuba must come to that realization. Their destiny is, has been and will forever be in their own hands.

                                      #43.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

                                      CJ, and Cuba has been doing so quite proficiently for the past 50yrs. (a miracle because they are just an island 90 miles away from us)

                                        #43.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:31 PM EDT
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                                        Is that Netanyahoo standing in the background taking lessons on how to practice geo-political relations?

                                          Reply#44 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:50 PM EDT

                                          OK, so here's the conversation between the two of them in the photo:

                                          Castro: "B|+(h, you've got your nerve wearing white."

                                          Pope Benny: "Kiss ma @$$, ho -- I've seen Dalmatians with fewer spots on 'em than you."

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                                          Reply#45 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

                                          E, are you an Israeli Diplomat?

                                            #45.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

                                            No. Just an atheist with a warped sense of humor.

                                              #45.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:44 PM EDT
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                                              The photo of the pope(GREAT SATAN) and good old Fidel Castro is priceless. It appears the SATAN is briefing Castro on a long journey to Hell. For all of you who don"t know how Satan looks like , just see the picture of the pope and Castro, it will be quite clear. Good catholic people who have the holy spirit must distance themselves from the pope as far as they can, because when the second coming of Christ comes, the Vatican, the pope, and all his minions will be the first to go. This will be really easy for Jesus Christ, because he will scorch them all at the same time. No witnesses required here!!! You do not want to be guilty by association.

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                                              Reply#46 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

                                              SR, unfortunately I must disagree with most of your comment. But I do agree with your statement that the photo is classic. Your other interpretations would be best voiced in a confessional.

                                                #46.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:17 PM EDT
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                                                Two dying empires. Two institutions whose message is neither relevant nor credible anymore.

                                                After half a century the people of Cuban still do not realize that, when it comes to freedom, there are no saviors.

                                                  Reply#47 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

                                                  CJ, please expand.

                                                    #47.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:25 PM EDT
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                                                    And then Castro held a little boy down while the Pope molested him.

                                                      Reply#48 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                                                      Paul, I went to Catholic grade school and an all-boys Catholic High School back in the 1970s. This type of behavior from priests never happened because it was completely understood they they (as everyone) were being completely monitored by the ENTIRE society and the priest's supervisors. In fact, if the Catholic Church even suspected such thoughts from a priest, the priest would have been transferred to the antarctic. I think the supervision by the church hiarchy of the conduct of their priests fell apart and became profoundly dilinquent by the church hiarchy in many areas throughout the US. 99.9% of Catholic Priests would not even think of sexually molesting a child. Period. End of story

                                                        #48.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:10 PM EDT
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                                                        Remeber when the Pope went to Israel a few yrs. ago and knelt in front of the "weeping wall" placed his hand on it and said a prayer?

                                                          Reply#49 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

                                                          the catholic church will never let the 3rd world countries prosper the more stupid you are the more money they get from this people open your eyes thats why there againts any inprovment on health topics educational topics the more simple it is the better for them they keep you stupid and umble so you can give more to there own batican bank. period.

                                                            Reply#50 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

                                                            I hope your cognitive functioning will improve (I'll say a Hail Mary).

                                                              #50.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:31 PM EDT
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                                                              Castro overthrew a dictator that was blindly supported by the USA and had ties to the Mafia. Castro accomplished much good for the Cuban people including better health care, education and land reform. USA embargo policy has been a futile attempt to punish an entire Cuban population for supporting a Communist regime. The USA was on the wrong side supporting Batista and continued to be on the wrong side injuring the Cubans further.

                                                              Every nation that has been at war with the USA and killed USA troops has been enriched with full diplomatic relations and trade agreements. Cuba has never attacked the USA and has never killed USA troops. However the USA trade embargo of Cuba is based on lingering bitter feelings of old dispossssed Cubans living in the USA. It is long past time to restore full relations with Cuba and end the trade embargo.

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                                                              Reply#51 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

                                                              WGM, excellently put. But I don't think the very small amount of poor Cuban immigrants had anything to do with it. Our current policy with Cuba is but left-over feelings of the cold war with Russia (and the Pope knows this). The entire ideology of diplomatic relations with Cuba is Archaic (the cold war has been over for 20+ yrs.) Trust me, the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church know what they are doing and are quite proficient at actuating such obvious realizations.

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                                                              #51.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

                                                              Wgn... your comments lead me to notice that you have never lived or visited the actual Cuba.. where the actual people live.. I advise you to check your source of information.. if you visit an actual Hospital.. the ones that the people have to go.. they don't even have clean sheets... the education part.. well... it was free.. but you still had to go every year during high school to work in the fields.. waking up at 5:00 am in the morning.. the breakfast was just a piece of hard bread. and on the land reform issue.. you are absolutely right.. the land was taken away from their rightful owners and now they are being controlled by the government. On the issue of war, it is true,, Cuba has not killed any USA troops.. but they kill their own ppl every day.. I can give you numerous examples of that.

                                                                #51.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:40 PM EDT
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                                                                Castro, you will soon meet your maker, so what is your move now? My advice is to make peace with the creator and give your people the freedom that they deserve before you go!

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                                                                Reply#52 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:06 PM EDT

                                                                Pat, Castro gave such freedom to his people 50yrs. ago. He is in quite good standing with God.

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                                                                #52.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:38 PM EDT
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                                                                The papal visit to Cuba , was a diarrhea of hypocrisy, bigotry, deception, mockery and falsity... happens that the pope, had time to even visit Fidel Castro and Chavez,,(both communists pigs and dictators) but did not have a minute to meet with the people fighting for the human rights and the rights all political prisoners that are rotting away in the jails in Cuba for expressing their disagreement with the Cuban government!!!!!

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                                                                Reply#53 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

                                                                Hilda, you are well fed by our gov.- political fantasy. Ironically this propaganda no longer serves any purpose for us. Cuba is no longer a threat to us and ONLY intelligent diplomacy will help us both (as the Pope is trying to example)

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                                                                #53.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:54 PM EDT

                                                                Pope Benny is just doing what he learned at the Hitler Youth rallies - paying homage to "das fuhrer". This time in Spanish instead of German.

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                                                                #53.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

                                                                E, that is so ironic, Netenyahoo just told me the same thing.

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                                                                #53.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

                                                                Kevin ,,, I don't waste my time answering to you.. you are the only one here replying with ignorant responses to everyone on this page. good day!!!

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                                                                #53.4 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:20 PM EDT

                                                                Hilda, I don't believe your story about being in Cuba. You were never in Cuba.

                                                                  #53.5 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

                                                                  Fyi.. I was born in Cuba.. !!!

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                                                                  #53.6 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:25 PM EDT

                                                                  Hilda, I correct myself. Thank God you have no hard feelings about your indigenous heritage and culture. (and no hope for its future)

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                                                                  #53.7 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:37 PM EDT
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                                                                  While reading this article, John Smith jumped out from behind the bushes and scared the hell out of me. I yelled "Jesus" . He laughed at me and walked away. (thank God some Mormon young men came to my door and calmed me down)

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                                                                  Reply#54 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:07 PM EDT

                                                                  Least he wants piece. Any evil man can become something good, but I guess we all have to look past that though. Fidel probably knows he's a scumbag, BUT at least he wants freedom, unlike other evil men. That brings another point, comrades. It's not about religion here, it's about having peace, freedom and working with our neighbors. So, when insulting the Vatican, might want to insult yourself because I don't see any of you helping, but bitching. Least he isn't bitching, mostly traveling trying to bring peace, not preach about believe in God, just give @!$%#ing peace already. Want to change? STOP BITCHING AND DO IT! :)

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                                                                  Reply#55 - Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:21 AM EDT
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