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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has ramped up her pressure on the Syrian regime in a stern speech to a summit in Istanbul, Turkey, warning of “serious consequences” if Bashar Assad fails to implement Kofi Annan's cease-fire plan.
She told the 60-nation Friends of Syria conference that "the time for excuses is over."
"Nearly a week has gone by, and we have to conclude that the regime is adding to its long list of broken promises," she said.
She added that the United States is adding $12 million to its non-lethal aid to the opposition, bringing the total to $25 million - and for the first time, is also providing communication equipment to the rebels "to help activists organize, evade attacks by the regime, and connect to the outside world.”
Clinton also told the conference: "The world must judge Assad by what he does, not by what he says. And we cannot sit back and wait any longer."
While the administration continues to have reservations about the Syrian National Council's ability to successfully challenge Assad, she is meeting with them during the Istanbul conference to urge them to work more closely with other opposition groups and translate their plan for a unified transition into political action.
She said: "That's how the opposition will demonstrate beyond any doubt that they hold the moral high ground, strip away Assad's remaining support and expose the regime's hypocrisy.”
Separately, the BBC has reported that Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states are creating a trust fund with millions of dollars to pay rebel troops. Troops who defect from Assad's army would be paid to encourage defections.
The Washington Post's David Ignatius talks about the meeting between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Saudi King Abdullah about whether Syria should accept a ceasefire.
Opening the conference, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan told foreign ministers and other officials present that the "legitimate demands of the Syrian people must be met, right here, right now."
The United States and its Gulf Arab allies, suspecting Assad of playing for time, urged Annan on Saturday to set a time-line for "next steps" if there was no ceasefire.
Violence has raged unabated despite Annan's mediation. Opposition activists reported at least 16 people killed on Sunday, mostly in clashes in northwestern and eastern Syria.
Syrian media derided the Istanbul meeting, which the Baath newspaper described as "a regional and international scramble to find ways of killing more Syrians and destroying their society and country, to reach the broad goal of weakening Syria."
A communique to be issued later on Sunday by the conference will give full support to UN envoy Annan's peace mission while stressing that it cannot be open-ended.
A diplomat, who was involved in drafting the communique, told Reuters the conference would work on additional measures to protect the Syrian people, while the U.N. Security Council should play an important role in ending the conflict.
Around 50 Assad supporters protested outside the conference center, waving Syria, Russian and Chinese flags and brandishing pictures of the Syrian leader. "Allah, Syria, Bashar, that's it" and "Down, down USA" they chanted, before police removed them.
Mahmoud Abdulatif, a Syrian lawyer who joined dozens in a similar protest outside a conference hotel used by delegates, accused Gulf Arab leaders and others of meddling in Syria.
"There can be no foreign involvement in Syria," he said.
Annan will brief the U.N. Security Council on Monday on his efforts to calm a conflict in which Syrian security forces have killed more than 9,000 people, by a U.N. estimate, while rebels have killed 3,000 troops and police, according to Damascus.
His six-point plan demands that Assad order his military to cease fire, withdraw troops from cities and open daily windows for humanitarian aid, but does not require him to step down.
The rebel Free Syrian Army said on Saturday it would stop shooting if Assad pulled heavy weaponry out of urban areas, but Damascus said its forces must stay to maintain security.
NBC News and Reuters contributed to this report.
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Wow, enough is enough! Over a year after the fact. Brilliant Hillary!
Wow, enough is enough!
I can't say it any better. How much longer is the world going to stand idly by watching this nightmare continue? Appeasement is not going to work and paying lip service to the rebels has only permitted thousands to die. How many more people need to die before somebody, anybody, takes action?
SI
Perhaps if the rebels were not shooting at the army, the killing would stop. Does anyone out there think if there were rebels in the US, fighting to overturn our government, that the government wouldn't shoot them.
We are supporting the rebels in order to facilitate regime change in Syria, just as we did in Iraq and are trying to do in Iran. This is all a neocon plot, conceived in the 1990s. The object is to remove all regimes which are perceived as enemies of Israel, so that Israel can remain the sole power in the ME.
Syria's power struggle is not our affair.
Every other week, Hillary is warning some ME country. Heaven help us if that b--ch ever gets to be president and I am a Democrat, who was a strong supporter of Bill Clinton.
No more wars for Israel .
Clinton: The time for excuses is over......The time for better excuses is now!
Lol!
Seems legit.
Perhaps if the rebels were not shooting at the army, the killing would stop.
And perhaps if the army weren't killing the rebels they wouldn't be shooting at them. Remember, this started as a protest. Do you really think that if the government in the US started killing protesters that there wouldn't be a rebellion?
The sad part is that every dictator who falls opens the door for the fundametalist Islamists to step into the void that's created and set up a very anti-American fundamentalist state like Iran. We're seeing it happen in Egypt, Tunisia, and Libya. I really think it's time we stop funneling billions of dollars and American troops into the Middle East, cut our losses, and go home. We can't win there.
I also really dislike the way that every thread on Newsvine turns into political name calling and personal insults.
Enough is enough alright. We dont have the money or the need to help the rebels. Leave the country! We have enough problems right here in the US to fight and spend out tax money on. Stay out of it! And I think we will. Let the arabs(midddle east neighbors)handle this.
We dont have the money or the need to help the rebels. Leave the country! We have enough problems right here in the US to fight and spend out tax money on.
While I agree with you to a point, don't you think that this is exactly what Assad, Putin and Hu Jintao are counting on?
Yeah, oh absolutely! The time for talk is over, isn't it? Let's get involved in yet ANOTHER useless, pathetic quicksand quagmire in which AMERICAN lives and dollars are wasted all for NOTHING. Surely, we have nothing else better to do, and there are no pressing issues HERE AT HOME to address, right?? I think that another war would be a swell idea, don't you??
*Rolls Eyes*
Pfffffffffft.
The sick thing about this Syrian dictator is that he doesn't have any compunctions or reservations whatever about torturing children and imprisoning them. That's as low as it needs to get. There can never be an excuse for that.
Don't worry, ewent, our Muslim Republican extremists have no problem killing and torturing people either.
Let it be known, though, that our Communist Chinese Democrats want to get our message out with some bombs.
I guess I am with the Communists on this one, since there isn't much of a choice, but I have to say, the Muslim Republicans who don't mind children dying do have a real appeal to everybody's pink purse. Its not an easy decision.
Hilary is now officially a J'hadi.
Derek...No more excuses. Do you vote in every election? Do you insure that the party bosses are not good ole bois? Most older people vote for one reason: They know for certain the power of their vote. All you need do is compare the Bush election to the Obama election to prove that.
People who are anti-government obviously have never bothered to stay up close and personal with their state politicians. There are many dedicated Republicans and Democrats. If there is one power you have that can NEVER be ursurped no matter how many billions the PACS pour into a campaign, it's the power of your vote.
HILLARY should go back home and bake cookies !!!!!!
The big stick she is threatening to use is worn down to the size of a tooth pick !!! We are sick and tired of these stupid wars. Our armed forces are exhausted and need a long rest. The country is broke and living on BIG BEN'S funny money. Get out of the middle east and stay out. That snake pit will never know peace because they don't want it. They are all tribal and always will be.
bob
bob1...Another American male with a subliminal "I hate women" message they keep deeply hidden. Would you ask Boehner to go back home and mow his own damn lawn? Or Cantor? Or Ryan? Or McConnell? You bet not.
As I recall, Rumsfeld and Rice were not exactly stellar performers, were they? Without Cheney, they couldn't go to the bathroom without Herr Cheney's permission.
Right wingers always love insularity because most stupidly believe if we disconnect from the rest of th world, it will save the righties tons of money. BS. The righties are the biggest purveyors of foreign contracts and push constantly the offshoring of American jobs in cheap labor countries.
Please, -no military aid to the rebels of Syria, no U.S. intervention in Syria, but if we do provide humanitarian assistance to that shantytown of a nation, it should be under the auspices of the U.N.
America, stay out of Syria.
Very soon Syria will be just a piece of land.
Hillary knows full well the answer; and this is her Assignment from President Obama to try again.
Warnings, Negotiations further enhance Assad's will to get rid of their entire population. Bashar will have Syria to himself, and his supporters.
The only Countries who can stop this Civil War/Slaughtering is the United Emirate Countries. Do you believe they will get involved in their "brothers and sisters" Wars? H-----------NO! Killing each other is their best talent. Will there be a newly rewritten KORAN for real Peace? H-----NO to that.
Hawaii...Saudi Arabia has already stepped in and demanded an end to the bloodshed. Let's not forget that any Arabic country that murders children damages the image of all Arabic nations. Murdering children is a heinous crime in any country and only Assad has thus far publicly carried out this merciless slaughter. In Assad's Herodic attempt at cleansing his country of his opposition, he must now justify his murder of the innocents.
Is that what you call my mocking? Anti government? Well, I suppose it is given that I don't blindly follow one of these fool parties. I must be anti-government to vote for one party sometimes, and the other, another. Because, you know, I vote candidate and not party. And I even vote third party if my decision has to be betweein a Communist and a Mullah.
I vote every election, and I even write my local communists and muslim clerics and I've even seen some legislation changed not because of my personal letter, but because me and a whole lot of other people sometimes wake up even a Republican Muslim Cleric or a Democratic Chinese Communist every now and then.
But that doesn't make the Republican agenda non-Muslim or the Democratic agenda non communist. So happens, next election is going to be between a Muslim Republican and a Communist Democrat. Some choice!
It amazes me how each and every day the political bashing goes on in our nation despite the good that it may be seeking in the world all in an effort to keep the other party from doing something good in the world and getting "credit" for what they've done. If you ask me, Hillary has been one of the best Secretary of State that our nation has had. What's happening in Syria is plain old wrong and the US and other nations shouldn't in good conscious just turn and look the other way. Syrian forces have already invaded Lebanon in their onslaught, which goes to show the severity of what is going on. What we are talking about is the will/desire of the people up against the armed forces of the nation. How would anyone think things would turn out? What is going on is plain outright murder of those who oppose Assad. Regardless of the religious beliefs of the people of a nation it is up to everyone to prevent such action from occurring.
You want an example of wrong, how about Romney coming out and equating the fact that his sons working to get him elected is serving our nation, when questioned regarding his sons serving in the military if he directs forces to engage another nation. As a retired veteran, that comment alone is not only insulting to every member of the armed forces and those who have served, but it goes to show that he's beyond what he asks other families to give if he should be elected. This coupled with the fact that his wife (whom I would believe shares his same beliefs after being married so long) has the audacity to come out and say that they're not rich, when more than 50% of our nation's workers make less than $29k per year.
Finally, the US is not talking about getting involved with boots on the ground. What is said is that the US is looking to provide the rebels with equipment (not fire arms and such) that would help them to coordinate their efforts. All they're talking about is $25 million, which is a drop in the bucket when compared to the amount of money our Congress wastes every year with pork barrel projects and things that will only benefit big business and their buddies that paid to get them elected to office and not the good of the majority of the citizens of our nation. Yes, we have A LOT of things wrong in our nation that need to be fixed, but first and foremost it is the members of Congress that continue to allow this to occur year after year and especially those who've made a career out of getting rich off the backs of the people of this nation, without any consideration of anyone other than themselves. I hope everyone remembers this come November.
I'm just sick of war and sick of spending trillions of dollars on war in another country while our young are sent home dead. But if our government insists on waging war I do believe Romney's sons should be the first to go. I mean he IS a proud American is he not?
We need to look at our country and start taking care of our people. Until someone comes over here and drops a bomb on us....spend our U.S. dollars here.
Oh yeah....I'm a dem too and there is no way I'd vote for Hillary...ever. Dems need to find someone strong for the 2016 election!
Ewent:
What has Saudi Arabians done stopping the slaughtering of Syrian citizens?. How have they helped? Are the Sheiks going to take off their gold robes and fight?
They may portray to be helping out, but they have never helped anyone, other then themselves with the Oil Rich Sheiks also looking at their poverty stricken, starving population. It is only the Monarchy in Saudi Arabia that matters. Where have you seen an average Saudi speaking out against all this slaughter?
Remember, the Islamists/Muslims also carry out Honor Killings within their own families, according to the teachings of the KORAN. Children murdered by their own parents. Please explain that---
The UAE doesn't care about human life. They are carrying out their beliefs of thousands of years ago what has been happening in the Middle East. What can change them now?
Each US President who is elected/ comes to Office thinks they will be the one to turn this around. I say forget that euphoric thought.. I say remember the Terrorists, beheadings, and the carrying out of thousands of deaths here in the US and Europe--never forget.
Ewent:
This is a quote of an Article from the Seattle Times Newspaper today:
UAE OUSTS GROUP ON EVE OF CLINTON MEETING:
"RIYADH, Saudi Arabia--
"On the eve of a summit meeting here between the United States and Arab Nations of the Persian Gulf to deepen security ties, one of those countries, The UAE, announced that it had shut down a US-financed organization that promotes Democracy, State Department Officials said".
you gotta remember the American people are armed Syrians aren't , this would never happen in the US our militias are too strong And our goverment knows this
hillary is nothing but a zionist whore. A big part of the criminal organization behind the NWO.
Their time is short, people are waking up to big lie.
Hello folks, those of you who are warmongering should know a couple of things. Russia is an ally of Syria. China and Russia are an ally of Iran. Those of you who think that we can just step into Syria and Iran without having the war come to our doorstep are delusional. It will be a little different than playing your mortal combat video.
Russian "Spetsnaz" units fighting al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria
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Spetsnaz or Russian army special forces, are considered the best trained units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
Russia's Special Forces are on the front line of protecting their country from terrorism home and abroad. Only the fittest, the strongest and the best can earn the right to wear the Spetsnaz crimson red beret (see: Fearless Few: What's so special about Russian Spetsnaz? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK2In1AgFQU ).
TIMELINE:
Units of Russia’s special forces, Spetsnaz, left Sevastopol on Dec. 4, 2011, onboard the Black Sea fleet patrol ship Ladny, which linked up with the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov and other vessels weeks later in the Mediterranean.
On Jan. 8, 2012, they sailed into the Syrian port of Tartus, where Russia has a large naval facility. It was there that a U.S. spy satellite reportedly caught Spetsnaz military advisors and weapons being unloaded.
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Russian Special Forces and military advisors are in Syria to fight al-Qaeda and conduct counterterrorism operations (see: Al-Qaeda agents worm into Syrian rebel army http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liXG_vm4jes
It is no coincidence that the Syrian government has achieved a decisive victory against the terrorists since the arrival of Russian Spetsnaz units.
These units are credited with contributing to major successes against al-Qaeda and other terrorist elements operating in Syria, including the US trained Libyan mercenaries who have infiltrated the country from Turkey…so much so that the government of Syria has declared "victory against rebel forces in the country".
“It has certainly changed the dynamic on the ground”, says Martin Goodman of Charlotte, N.C. a Russian military analyst and expert on Russian special forces units. "My sources in Moscow say these units are conducting counterterrorism operations aimed at defeating al-Qaeda", he said.
she is a dumb bimbo , look who she married
Worn Out:
Please give credit to an exemplary Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. She has been advised by our President to do what she is trying to accomplish. Orders from the top.
"Zionist Whore"; Please put your blinded Anti Semitism to the side, and discuss the matter, Syria with somewhat of an intelligent response.
The remarks are totally discredited, when bigotry of any Ethnicity comes to a Blog.
Wise up---I'm being "polite" to you. My thoughts of you are in front of my computer.
Shut your friggin' mouth Hillary and company..... You are already threatening Iran and occupying Afghanistan.... How much more can our troops take of our Three Branches of Cowards continued war(s)? Send your own children scumbags.....
Hillary previously said the intel clearly showed that the rebels were heavily made up of members from various terrorist organizations, many of whom were earlier in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq and killed US troops and Iraqi citizens. These groups also are very anti-Israeli and once in power could decide to start another war with Israel using the military supplies given.
So now we're supplying these Syrian rebels with communication equipment when we knowingly admit that they have strong links to the Taliban and Al Queda and once they take over they'll likely be just as bad if not worse than the current regime. At first I thought we're completely stupid but then I thought about the US could install tracking devices in the equipment and follow it to Afghanistan. But that would take some brilliance on the government's part, so yeah the administration is probably just stupid.
Funny how when we went in to help the rebels in Libya, the Republicans said shame on President Obama for interfering in another Countries civil war. Now that we hold back, Republicans are saying shame on President Obama for not helping the rebels in Syria's civil war. REPUBLICANS make up your mind. You are so translucent in your hatred for President Obama. Whatever he does, you automatically take the opposite view regardless of right or wrong.
Hawaii, You can go ahead and call me an anti semite all you want. But what I said is true. She was banished from DC because she was a big part of the watergate scandel. She is not working for the people of the US and if you can't see that your an IDIOT too. Have a good day slave.
Is this your very, very last and final warning. Hillary' you have really got them scared. If they get out of line again, as you see it, they will get the "final. final" last warning. Good job Hillary !! The world really respects us.
whitewater.watergate was nixons gig.
HEy Hillary, American going hungry can be considered Syrians as well.
She should threaten to marry them.
That would scare them!
Yes, but did she shake her finger at them again, like last time ?
Hoo boy, hilary's "stern" speech, obama's "harsh" words, don't you just imagine that assad is trembling? Do you suppose that msnbc's star reporters and commentators think he is trembling.
What part of these Muslims killing each other is a bad thing for us?
Somebody light a cigar.
its a russian thing. let russia deal with it. they want assad in power so let them keep him there or not.
same in iran. we can barf and scream and yell, but russia and china are helping iran, so we can try to get into a war by getting one of our ships strafed in the strait, but we will end up playing with russia and china.
Or why does the chinese dong feng look so much like the iranian shahab which looks like the north korean taepodong.
Sunni Saudi Arabia and Arab League tried their normal tricks in Syria like Bahrain.
Now the Saudi, oil companies and lobbyists have taken over dirty jobs in Syria and Iran like in Iraq!
"Serious Consequences" if peace is not implemented as stated by Mrs. Clinton. Maybe she should get out from under that mushroom. Meanwhile back in reality, many "participants" walked out of a meeting on replacing Assad.
Yep, here comes some drones and aid to the "opposition". Wonder when the U.N. is going to "jump in feet first".
This is beginning to smell more and more like Egypt and the rest of the ME "Arab Spring" countries.
Worn Out:
Name suits you. Is your mind so tired, that it thinks Hillary Clinton was a part of Watergate?. As someone previously said, this was the late ex-President Nixon's Waterloo. He resigned.
Please get the stories straight. Counting: so far you haven't made one solid remark about how Sec. of State Hillary Clinton is threatening Syria to stop the carnage.
What do you think about; thinking about Anti Semitism all the time?.
BTW: Please do not name call---once again, calling a poster an Idiot does not provide a solid argument.
By me not using the word, please look in a 10x's magnifying mirror at yourself--You would be shocked.
ldo, Our successful efforts in Libya beat the hell out of attacking a sovereign nation in search of imaginary WMDs and fighting a useless war for almost a decade. Bush 41 was smart enough to court a serious coalition before engaging Iraq in defense of Kuwait. He was also smart enough to know when to disengage. Syria will be dealt with in the same fashion as Libya. Others will lead the way as America provides back-up. A minimum loss to our treasury and no loss of life by young Americans troops.
Why is the US and the West late in reacting to the Syrian problem?
Blame Russia and China for refusing to accept hard sanctions from the onset of the slaughter.
The world will not see improvement to global human right violations unless these two permanent and powerful members of the UN Security Council change their own constitutions to address their own human rights issues. Their resistance to UN sanctions is because they do not want the UN to impose sanctions on them. So they feel they have no choice but to side with the Devil to avoid being call the Devil themselves. A bunch of arrogant hypocrites.
This is why it is important for the US and the rest of the western nations keep the pressure on Russia and China in their one-on-one bilateral relations.
The blood of the thousands of victims in Syria is on Russia and China.
Is Hillary representing Saudis, oil companies and lobbyists?
No, Jonathan, Hillary is representing a frustrated President who was slow to learn the Presidency of the United States is not the seat of absolute power. Internationally, he must learn to deal with the real axis of evil, Russia and China, who's goal remains the same, unseating the US from superpower status. At home he must learn to deal with equally arrogant hypocrites, the Republican Party who are willing to ignore the needs of real Americans so that they regain the White House and continue their power game fantasies.
The Nixon administration was the only one that understood and demonstrated the full power of the Office and created policy to use it properly. Unfortunately, for us and the rest of the world, they went too far and overshot they own oath to the Office and it's governance. I believe the Nixon doctrine, with the Watergate problem removed, is still the model for the US to use for foreign affairs.
Larry: "Whitewater" was Hillary. "Watergate" was Nixon.
Ad'M: Add Jewish lobby to the list!
Make up your minds Republicans, go in and help or stay out, can't have it both ways just because the President picked one and now you have to pick the other.
i love how people blame her when she has a boss that tells her what to do or what to negociate and thats obama
You have the story the other way around - Mr. Obama sucks up to the Clintons who got him elected in the first place because they wield unprecedented influence over the United States government with their Southern Baptist coffers and Democratic supporters that even insanely wish to see Bill Clinton as head of a global government.
Bill Clinton begs the American public for a third term as shocking as that is - thinking and believing somehow that his presence in the Oval office is something to be admired as if he committed no perjury or obstruction of justice.
And they - each Democrat or Republican, I might add - ignores the ballot.
They have so deeply corrupted our election system as if any American could trust it any longer - thinking, believing that each and every vote is substantially regarded with respect when a strong portion are ripped to shreds, deleted and ignored putting into office the person that the majority in Washington, DC wishes - at will.
The Americans are fools not by choice - but by deception from extremely wealthy persons that were handed that tax money by susceptible United States citizens that had faith in a system, a doctrine, a Christian faith that was horrifically destroyed by those that believe in nothing but the almight dollar sign.
Terrible. Absolutely terrible what these men and women sitting at Capitol Hill have done to my children and grandchildren that will never see real justice, actual law at any time in the future - because it no longer exists.
Now, I've spoken the truth - and it is raw and hurts the American eyes.
Sometimes we require that reality to wake us up and stand for honesty and integrity both of which will never be acquired under the name "Democrat" or "Republican" or "Clinton" or "Obama".
The only resolve is for the American - the poor American to set forth what is right under the law and defend it with everything you have because this land is yours and you must protect what is yours at risk of losing it all.
And you will if you fail to see...ignore your rights, and let these persons with unlimited wealth - your tax dollars take it all every day while you work your menial jobs, your standard life.
We cannot afford this war and Hilary knows it - but she's biding her time for Obama to be re-elected and doesn't care an ounce for a hair on your child's head while she knows she will retire in luxury.
Don't let her do this.
Mackie...And you know all this because you were there when President Obama "sucked up" to the Clintons, right? More inane statements from the armchair commentators.
The Chinese Communist Democrats want to tell people what to do.
But our Muslim Republicans are allies with Syria and Al-Quaeda.
Boy, how hard is it to pick a side here!?
I say vote Communist Obama in 2012 or Muslim Romney/Santorum!
Krazy...When you think about it, Hillary Clinton is THE hardest working Secretary of State we've had in a long time. Compare her to any other Secretary of State in the past and not a single one has been as involved in international affairs as Hillary Clinton. President Obama isn't Richard Cheney. He doesn't do his job from a back room office. The hideous lack of transparency of Cheney during the Bush Administration was Cheney's evil way of hiding the reality that HE, not Bush, was running the show. They just let Bush THINK he was president. They being Cheney and Bush's old man.
Mackie, great post!
What part of our screaming 'BUTT OUT' don't these moronic politicians get!!!!??????
ewent I agree with you that Hilliary Clinton is our hardest working Secretary of State. An amazing woman!
Your absolutely correct..............She if cut from the same cloth as Obama, and pretty much does his bidding. Is that supposed to be a compliment or something ?
One day Hillary goes on and on Iran and next day on Syria!
She may not much what went in Iraq and what is going on Afghanistan.
Saudis, oil companies and lobbyists have not briefed her on them!
...and both Clinton & Obama are following a good course of action right now, slowly bringing the pressure up on Syria...
Send
Hilary to Syria.
Strap a gun to her fat butt and let her eat sand fleas in 110 degree heat with
insulated desert boots that sweat her feet out.
Let Hilary enjoy what she intends to put our troops through yet again and cost
American taxpayers trillions in addition to what we spend in Afghanistan.
Where does this person believe money will come from to fund another war?
Because I'm thinking that this money is being funneled in by another nation.
Has to be - we do not have the fiscal integrity. So this is nothing but a lie.
And I would suspect that the nation(s) funding this are the Arab emirates that
know we are entering into each nation of Islam to reconstruct it and train
their military, provide weapons on the backs of United States citizens and that
we are supposed to eat this as if we all agree that it is the righteous thing
to do while our own roads, schools, and nation crumbles.
Did we not see that in Germany during WWII?
What result?
Discuss.
Hillary and other cheap puppets of Saudis, oil companies and lobbyists can visit Saudi Arabia and other pay masters!
Even while visiting Iraq in later days and now in Afghanistan, see how they visit those places.
Hillary, John McCains are not talking of one war, but two: Iran and Syria.
If Saudis and Jewish lobby are in a big hurry, why should these people start jumping.
They forgot about Iraq and are forgetting Afghanistan, soldiers and their families and the huge economic wreck in the US, Britain and other places due to these wars!
All her and obama do is dump money or threaten empty sanctions around the world while Americans loose jobs,homes ,suffer at the pumps and grocery stores! How about spending money on the people paying for all this crap! Whose going to bail us out?
tax weary...Oh right...spend money on the people paying for this "crap". You mean like Cantor's "Dream Budget" where he plans to kill off Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security in his lifetime? How will that help people who are retired on fixed incomes that never made it to Cantor's salary range?
You mean like the Republicans this week who voted to continue tax subsidies to Big Oil using the flimsy ass excuse that cutting $4 billion in Big Oil tax subsidies would just increase the price of oil? Like it hasn't increased 3 times a year for 4 decades?
If you are suffering at the grocery store, it's because this country no longer makes or produces anything. It all comes from offshore where you can't even hope the goods are safe to eat. There are plenty of small business groceries that don't import 100% of the goods they sell. There's no excuse for complaining about the high cost of groceries unless you are buying loads of previously prepared foods.
Tax weary - .. If I was a moron, I would agree with you. The party you support has pretty much put an end to helping American out in a time of crisis.
I still think it's time to provide some humanitarian aid to the civilians of Syria. Here's a link to the White
House petition that supports aid: wh.gov/IeA
No, Sir - you call George Clooney and his father to support your cause with their private money and leave United States tax payers alone.
Mackie...You mean like Big Oil and Big Pharma leave taxpayers alone to pay for their subsidies they don't even need? Sorry if we are not fooled anymore by right wing BS where they demand smaller government that becomes so small it's a dictatorship or worse, a Board of Directors with an appointed CEO at the helm or the games where they cut, cut, cut and then hand all those savings to the 1% and Corporate America in tax cuts that reduce ONLY their taxes and never ours. Game's up. Point and Score.
"...pay for their subsidies..."
Subsidy----a direct pecuniary aid furnished by a government to a private industrial undertaking, a charity organization, or the like.
Show me where the government PAYS oil or pharma?
Yes sign a petition to support humanitarian aid to Syria so we can spend our tax payer dollars on going after more oil by falling for this war propaganda.
"Around 50 Assad supporters protested outside the conference center, waving Syria, Russian and Chinese flags and brandishing pictures of the Syrian leader. "Allah, Syria, Bashar, that's it" and "Down, down USA" they chanted, before police removed them."
So the "Enemies of Syria Conference" want protests in Syria,but can't stand them directed at them.
Funny to hear that the Arab despots of the gulf who oppress their own people and where women have fewer rights than in Syria are now advocating for democratic change in Syria. This is ridiculous - and the US looks like a fool standing by these whore-mongering despots pretending that they are looking out for progressive change in Syria and that the rights of the people must be respected standing next to Arab cavemen with We are Open signs in their torture and rape rooms at home. In this one, Russia and China ARE RIGHT - the US plays both sides of the coin hence we spend trillions in war while we tell people "hey, we just can;t afford health care, or social security is unsustainable ...." sick - but sad to see that this is how america will collapse and we will ALL be to blame.
They have been murdering their own people for how long? This world has gone completely mad. There is no place on this planet for Genocide, ethnic cleansing, or Apartheid, but it continues on and on and on..........
Slinger...I certainly agree. But Assad does show the world just how far a single man will go to control the world around him. Sick, isn't it?
If you study Assad, you see his mania regarding autonomous control. Sadly, it is all too reminiscent of Hitler. But then, that's to be expected from maniacal mentalities and those who believe they are more entitled to power than everyone else.
write in STEVEN GREENWALD for mayor of san diego on june 5th,,for human rights life liberty and the pursuit of happiness ..to topple asad you must isolate him from russia china iran venezuala hamas...chip away at his backers and he will fall asap without a dollar spent or american blood shed!!!ms clinton go to putin and the chinese communist party now!!!!!greenwald for mayoy of san diego my website GREENWALD4MAYOR.COM
sgreenwald2...Venezuela's Chavez is not a well man and there is already a younger slate hungering for the conversion to a more democratic government. I think we are going in the right direction with Iran. We need to be sure of their nuclear power before we go bombastically marching in there and find they never were a real threat...ala Iraq which could end in humiliation and embarrassment if we are wrong. The country in the Middle East we know for certain has nuclear power is Pakistan.
why stop when America forks out millions to other countries, put that 25 million whatever in america or in a freakin bank something to cut the the problems of this U.S of A! not the world
There is no 25 million to put in a bank. That is all on credit. AMERICA DOESN'T have $25 million.
We hand out money to muslims all over the globe. We hand out money then put it on our credit cards. Whoops, my mistake. We put it on our grandchildren's credit cards.
Leroy...wrong...I know where we can instantly get $4 billion....end Big Oil subsidies. NOW. The idiot Republicans use the excuse that ending these obscene subsidies would mean higher oil prices. Higher than they already are? And how many more times a year could Big Oil increase prices than it already has? This is news?
Take the $4 billion we spend on these subsides and those that go to Big Pharma. If these industries cannot be self-sufficient, the government has no business helping them hand out millions in CEO salaries, perks and annual bonuses. Particularly when they don't create jobs.
Americans elected Obama because they were tired of Bush's plunging us into wars we can't afford and aren't any of our business. Civil wars occur around the globe and have for centuries, we aren't the worlds policemen.
How much like Ghadafi Syrian President Assad is beginning to sound. His "righteous" regime that is killing civilians by the hundreds is "under attack" by foreign terrorist thugs. It is almost a verbatim playbook. And unfortunately, the result is likely to be the same after more women children and innocent Syrian families will be killed and forced to flee from their homes that are destroyed by government tanks and heavy artillery. Assad has been given a way out of this situation. All he needs to do is withdraw his war machine and halt attacks on civilians; he does not even have to agree to step down (although it is clear that he can no longer hope to retain the presidency).
It will not happen, but all other countries should immediately freeze all assets of the Syrian Assad family and their business associates and prohibit them from entering any other country, declare them personae non grata. If the Russians and Chinese have Syrian assets but have not delivered the goods (weapons) to Assad, they should keep the money and the guns. Should the Assad family try to leave Syria, they should be denied government protection and left to fend for themselves just like the tens of thousands of refugees they have created.
Why don't you bring me up to date on what's happening in Libya now that we destroyed their country. Did you read the story on Ms NBC 3 days ago about the fighting there? 50 dead in one skirmish. torture, Ethnic cleansing and forced relocations.
She learned to use that approach by having to deal with Bill and his wandering ways!!! She should, however, shut her trap, get her fat butt back to the U.S. and mind her own business. We are not the world's police force or conscience! The Arab League seems to be doing a good job along with Anan of getting the point to Syria. Why must this administration seemingly try at every opportunity to anger that part of the world for political capital?
I'm a little bit up in the air on Syria. Yes Assad sucks. but So do the terrorists attacking him. Maybe the glacially slow pace of diplomacy is a good thing. Let them keep killing themselves and depleting their resources. When they run out of men and bullets we can go in and set up a friendly leader who will keep peace with Israel and sell us their natural resources.
Reminds me of something that happened with my grandfather. He was a local constable who the sheriff often asked to help when something was going down. One night the sheriff asked him to help stop a brawl at a local dance hall, to which my grandad agreed.
On the way, my grandad said, "let's stop at the red wagon and get a cup of coffee."
The sheriff said, "but Coleman they are in a brawl now."
He said, "yeah I know but they'll be a lot easier to handle after we have had our coffee".
Are you sure your name is Leroy and not Paul, because you sound like Paul Wolfowitz? The sole purpose of the entire endeavor is to weaken Syria and install leader who will be friendly to Israel.
Ralph.. actually any leader of the opposition is highly unlikely to be friendly to Israel. Quite the opposite most are seen as being even more unfriendly.
If you haven't figured it out by now. Dictator says mother of all battles. Ends up being defeat of all defeats. Lets get to the defeat of all defeats part shall we?
the uprising in syria does not threaten the us..
it is time that we not stick our noses into other country's affairs unless it poses a threat to us..
our superpower status will gradually erode due to our careless spending and will be replaced..
if the liberals have their way..
no longer can we or should we go it alone..
Yep. Let it run it's course. We have poor people dieing here. No matter who losses there, it will be bad guys. Maybe this war will slow down their breeding.
where there is money to be made the us government will be there. do a search on bing.com for "cia in syria" there is only 11 Million articles you can do a little research on. . . . . .
Hilery, Time for you to go home and get a perm. Do something with that hair
John Trent...Could you refrain from blatant sexist remarks? I don't like Boehner's tan. But I don't suggest he stop using tanning salons. It's time for some American men to face the fact that women are smarter today and can do more than get pregnant and walk around barefoot like Daisy Mae in DogPatch. And even Daisy Mae had the good sense to invest in Clairol and breast implants.
Seems like some American men wake up on Sunday morning snarky and anti-woman because McWifie didn't put out for her McHubby and his mandatory Saturday night "specials".
hes makeing a comment on her appearnce based on his own personal tastes. chill dude
Once over the rebels will disperse and then begin fighting each other for power. Or once Assad wins the rebels will disperse and once again become enemies of the US.Yay!!
This is a tricky situation, with Russia and China supporting a do nothing policy and the 'free' nations wanting to end the bloodshed.
Syria buys a lot of Russian military equipment and China needs Iranian oil. Iran supports Syria. So we have Russia, China, Iran and the Syrian government on one side and the so called 'free' nations of the world wanting to end the violence with negotiations leading to the removal of Asad who does not want to step down.
If the free nations intervene, there may be a significant backlash by the counrties supporting Syria. So, what would you do?
Screw Russia and China. They aren't going to do Shiite. They don't care that much. They have plenty of other interests that meen a lot more to them. China wants Afghanistans Lithium and Africa's Rhino horns and oil. Syria has nothing they want.
So you recommend that Hillary should tell them to F off and come to the rescue with guns blazing?
Come on Leroy. Think.
Go easy on Leroy, he's learning.
Fred...International humanitarianism isn't something Russia or China can ignore for long without looking like uncivilized schmucks. Neither China or Russia want to revert back to being considered "ignorant" countries. It's a matter of exhausting all diplomacy which President Obama seems most adept at handling. It's a delicate situation but not an impossible one.
The fact is that right now Russia and China are supporting a dictator who is killing Syrian children. Not even Russia or China would stand for that.
Hey there, guess what those so called Rebels are Muslim fanatics bud, and they are clearing out Christians left and right. A Syrian Christian pastor gave an American pastor a letter to read to his congregation. You have whole Christian families being wiped out by the so called democracy loving bastards. They kidnap the kids, especially the girls rape them get the ransom and kill them anyway. This stuff happened to a certain extent in Iraq after we went in. This whole thing is BS and just a way to get rid of Iran's main allies just before the big hit on Iran goes down. Yeah go ahead and repalce a secular guy that protects minorities from Islamic extremeism, but stay friends with the real hard core authoritarians in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. But oh yeah they suck Uncle Sam's dick, so it is OK they shoot protestors and keep the Shia minority in SA and the majority in Bahrain down.
Arming one side or the other is NOT the solution to the fighting. Disarming both sides is the answer. Simple quit giving them weapons. Duh !
Ooh, watch out Syria here come some frightening sanctions! Ooh!
Galactus
It's funny, half of the right-wing teabaggers are attacking the administration for being too weak on Iran and Syria, while the other half is attacking it for being too harsh. Then the two switch sides every time the administration makes a new statement...
Who is Barry Soetoro?
Hark, is that the sound of black helicopters? Quick, Leroy! Retrieve your tin-foil hat! The mothership is sending their CIA attack robot to find you! Bigfoot will have his revenge!
By the way, which side are you on this week? Too hard on Syria or too soft?
No response, Leroy? It's a simple question. Which side are you on this week?
Leroy is just another paid troll here. Do not "feed him" Toasty. Can't tell these trolls by now? They all say the same crap-just have different names with lots of NUMBERS after them.
Try to insult your way out of it. Do you deny that Barack had his name legally changed, by his adopted father, to Barry Soetoro?
Yes Leroy, because you just made that up. Again.
Don't live your live ignorant. check wikipedia if your not scared of truth. But I have the feeling you already know the truth. It just doesn't fit your stance so your ignore it. Lies and more lies. Very COWARDLY.
So in other words... "Sorry Toasty, I don't actually have any evidence to present myself, please read the same conspiracy theorist websites I do."
Sorry kiddo, that's not good enough. Time to put your big boy pants on and present your evidence. Put up or shut up, sport.
Oh wait. I think I just heard Toasty's phone ringing. Guess we won't see him again today.
Still waiting on that evidence.
It's in Barry's book and wikipedia. Not some big secret. Do 2 minutes of research. You have heard of google right? You know it is true. don't be chicken shiite.
Give us a quote, then. A full quote, in context. Go on. Take your time if you have to. If you want to discuss issues with a grown-up, I feel it is my responsibility to help you learn how to think critically like an adult. I'd prefer to not have to hold your hand through all this, but if that's what it takes to see my friend Leroy grow into adulthood, I'm willing to. The ability to critically assess the world around you is an important factor in growing up, and it'd be my pleasure to help you learn this skill.
You want me to send you a copy of Barry's book. Just give me your home address. You think barry lied in his book?
No, I want you to give me an exact quote to support your assertion. Stop treading water and trying to buy time. Your evidence, please. Cited properly, if you if you really want to impress me.
He registered at the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta Indonesia under the name of Barry Soetoro. Enrolled by his step father Lolo Soetoro, Using the name Barry Soetoro claiming Islam as his religion and Indonesian as his nationality
The question isn't weather he was adopted or had his name changed. The question is did he ever have his name legally changed back. and did he enroll at Occidental as a foriegn exchange student to get Grant money.
Easy: he never changed it in the first place, nor did he apply as a foreign student. You just made that up. Or rather, someone else made it up and spoon fed it to you.
Next conspiracy theory.
leroy2112
looks like Toasty is toast so he crawled back under his self-rightious rock - hey Toasty, when the grownups talk - stay out of it, ok.
Toasty. Post your evidence that Barrack was never adopted and had his name changed. C'mon. Post it. prove he never had the name Barry Soetoro.
Or just throw more insults. Try to make yourself sound superior to everyone then spin your way into a new subject. I guess you think Barry was lying when he wrote his book.
You want me to post evidence... of a negative assertion?
You see, this is why a college education is important. It teaches a person how to think critically, which is a vital part of being an adult. Leroy, if you have no evidence to support your assertion, that means you're wrong. End of story.
Leroy...If he attended that Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta Indonesia under the name of Barry Soetoro, he couldn't have attended it as a Muslim. You really have no clue what you are posting do you? Do you know that Fransiskus Assisi in Indonesia is a Catholic school? Muslims would never attend a Catholic School named for St. Francis of Assisi. And, as a Catholic school, he would have had to use his father, not his mother's surname.
Now...please do admit your post is tripe.
Leroy, how can you tell when Barry is lying? When his lips are moving, and/or when he is writing.
hehe a college education . . . .. thats a joke. . . . these morons in d.c. with degrees cant figure out if ya got 10$ you can't spend 100$ . . .. . . .
I see no account ban can stop "Renee" for long.
Don't be a yellow coward. Again.
Leroy...Did you bother to also read the disclaimer on every single one of Wikipedia's articles? They are posted to Wikipedia by people just like you. And the disclaimer clearly states that they take no responsibility for the factuality of what is posted. So what you really need to do is contact that Catholic school in Indonesia named for St. Francis of Assisi and ask to see President Obama's registration papers. Not that you'll be able to read it without an interpreter, of course.
I find supreme irony in the fact that Mr. "Don't Be A Coward" just ran away when confronted with nothing more aggressive than "please present your evidence"...