There is a stroy she will have to live down for the rest of her life...Can you imagine the toast by uncle Jin at her wedding, prom, etc...

when I first saw the headline, I thought it was a girl tryin' to intenionally get rid of the baby.....thank God I was wrong.

They don't have storks in China

Next time your wife bitches about leaving the toilet seat up, either tell her to get some exercise by putting the lid down or install a toilet like they have

LOL What a way to enter the world.

Mr. Binkie... It's the oldest way in the world to enter it.... Laying on your back is unnatural

xactly, Jim

squatting opens up the pelvic outlet (the bone-ringed exit the baby must past through), lying on the back closes it.

My friend, lying on her back in a traditional hospital, ended up with a c-section because of "cephelopelvic disproportion" ie babies head too big to fit out. NOT. Supposedly, later on the pedi was concerned about his low head circumfrence, in the 5th percentile. And she had vaginal births before and since that. She has since learned to squat.

This woman was ready to give birth, squatted and opened up her pelvic canal...and voila...her body knew what to do.

In lands where one squats for the toilet, women in labor should be very careful!

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then why would she have said anything at all to get them to get her out?

Because of the one child policy and two plus decades of aborting girls, female babies are now more desired than males in China. That little girl will grow up and be a comodity for these parents IF she's not kidnapped first.

Maybe Bethcat but there's still the "only 1 child rule", daughters leave when they marry and sons bring their wives to their parents village/home. Old age is bleak for mothers of daughters. I hope things in China change quickly.

biteme, you don't know squat about China's "one family, one child" law. It doesn't apply to all areas of China and you can have as many children as you desire if you have the financial means to pay the penalties and send your children elsewhere for education.

Sichuan - yes - you are correct but have a nasty tone. However, how many families in China can afford that? "If you have the financial means" - your words. While many in China are experiencing wealth for the first time, most are still very poor. Plenty of babies (boys) are being kidnapped in China as well. That has been in the news recently, too. If you could afford to have more children why wouldn't you try to have a male child and avoid the risk of getting caught kidnapping someone's child?

And you can have two if both parents are only children. Besides, @biteme, your 'theory' doesn't explain why she then notified people to retrieve the child if she had done it on purpose. I think you are nasty for even suggesting that she did it on purpose to avoid having to raise a 'girl'.

So they're gonna marry a baby girl?

I have been to China many times and I am married to a Chinese woman also. I know many families that have 4 or 5 kids in the family. In my wife's family there are 4 females and one male. They are not rich either. Just normal folks that struggle to make ends meet, like many in the US. I think the one child law is only for certain areas, not all areas. It could be for the bigger cities, I'm not sure. My wife's home town is four hours away from Chengdu. Now most of them live in Chengdu because that's where the jobs are.

With one funny birthday story right? lol

That story has been told many times, complete with many laughs.

Not to sound corny or cliche or anything... but i remember her all snuggled up under the lamp, looking like a burrito (baby-rito?) and she looked like a perfect little miracle of life. Yeah... i went a little baby crazy there.

It's not just the women that use them...the men also use them. It's the same in Japan. I remember the first time I used one while in Tokyo...one of the most modernized cities in the world...it was a bit odd at first. But, I got used to it. It's cultural...not a punishment or backwards by any means.

Actually, Western-style sitting toilets are more unhealthy for you, as they involve actual bodily contact with a toilet that many others in the unwashed masses have used and splashed their fluids upon, and they force you to defecate in an unnatural position. It also takes longer to empty your bowels on a sitting toilet because it forces a bend in your bowels that prevent all of the fecal matter from being expelled, meaning you are more likely to still have some inside you when you are "done" using the toilet. Hemorrhoids, Crohn's Disease, IBS, and other similar digestive problems, are primarily issues in areas of the world that using sitting toilets.

Let me sum it up this way: A woman sitting on the toilet to defecate is likely to have toilet water filled with bacteria and fecal particles from other people splashing all over her backside and lady-parts, which not only FEELS disgusting but IS disgusting. That doesn't happen with squat toilets as water is poured down the toilet AFTER using it (and there are in fact flushing versions of squat toilets as well).

Well, Kitty, as unnatural as Western toilets may be for one's bowels, at least children don't get "lost" in them because of their design. That's a mark in the plus column for me.

Kitty - with my knees squatting like they do (and I live in Japan for 3 years) now wouldn't speed up emptying my bowels because my knees would collapse long before that happened.

What's really disgusting is that we use potable water to flush commodes.

in some Arab countries they wash after defecating in those squat toilets. Their is a little tap on the wall down low next to the toilet for that. You use your left hand

the problem was for me, in most places, there was no soap. So you actually have residual fecal matter on your left hand no matter how you wash it with water alone.

If their were soap, their method would be cleaner I suppose. No soap, very unsantitary. I can't see those squat toilets without thinking of the next step. No toilet paper...you wipe with your hand.

In China, Chengdu city, I never saw any toilet paper in the public restrooms. Sometimes no place to wash your hands either. Its a custom for most people to carry their own toilet papers with them and if you forget tough luck.

The umbilical cord most likely WAS still attached.. to the placenta, which detaches from the uterus and comes out after the baby, although the length of time this takes can vary. Some women need an abdominal massage and gentle pulling during contractions to get the placenta out, but in others it detaches on its own and comes out soon after the baby does. It's not a stretch to say that the pressure of the baby's drop into the toilet pit could have caused the placenta to finish detaching and come out at the same time.

the woman is lucky she did not bleed to death or too heavily. Ripping the placenta off by tugging on the cord is not good as far as I know. There are changes in the circulation of blood after birth (some blood vessels clamp down) that make placenta ready to detatch. Guess it was ok

This story is kind of hard to believe. Those toilets do not flush by itself. Someone has to flush it. If the girl had a baby she could have just reach in and grab the baby. And besides that, those toilets do not have much water in them.

In reality, the only time you have "Free Speech" the way the tea party wants is if you are talking to yourself with nobody around to listen. ---- Even your friends & your church holds you to "Responsible Speech", you can lose both real fast by pissing people off & it has been that way from the time the first "uugh" was muttered

You're as free as anyone else to have an opinion and to express it, even though it was very offensive. You don't have to agree. But this isn't your mouth, it's a forum of comments on an article that was published on a website. That website is not obligated to allow you to speak. Your mouth is still free to do that, and your right to freedom of speech has in no way been infringed.

As long as you follow the rules & keep your speech somewhat responsible.. Which is what all social rules tell you

The shouts of lost freedoms & demands for freedoms nobody had in the first place & would never get is just plane silly & uneducated --- Electioneering Extreme "Fear Factor"

nothing new,,,, I can see the source of your frustration...

You would have trouble deciding who to call,,, Joe the Plumber, who couldn't hold a plumbing job because of his stupid speech or Dr Paul who republicans tossed out of the race for his stupid speech

Jim...

Where did that red herring come from??

I think you started it with your "free speech" comment.... I'm just reminding you that people have been held accountable to "Respectful & Responsible Speech" from the time man 1st started communicating & nobody has your concept of "Free & Irresponsible Speech" & it never would be given to any human

I did not swear. I did not call people names. I did not disparage any religion.

I probably said something with which you do not agree.

That's the way it works.

So you get to decide.

Wow!!

Looks to me like you are making the rules as you go.

That is neither Respectful nor Responsible.

I think you might want to read your lame comment & stop denying what you said.

"I'm getting the hang of the free speech thing. I am free to speak as long as I agree with everyone."

This may be news to you, republicans & the Tea Party but,,,,, people have been held accountable to "Respectful & Responsible Speech" from the time man 1st started communicating with other humans

Another red herring - who said anything about republicans and the tea party??

The point is that you are deciding what is acceptable.

You get to decide what you do not like but not what I consider acceptable.

Common sense should tell you what is acceptable speech & what isn't.. Didn't your parents teach you anything? Your own friends or church won't even tolerate disrespectful & intolerant speech -- You will lose both church & friends

nothing new,,, Now you are denying being associated with these groups? That is too much dude, but from you it's not surprising.... We've had similar arguments before many times

By the way nothing new,,,, Thanks for collapsing my earlier comment, I expected it from you. You don't tolerate the "Free Speech" you claim you support

My guess, from all of this, is that you did not do well on the school debate team.

Republicans, tea party and now parents, church and friends.

Is there no limit to your inventory of red herrings?

That's funny, especially when it's you who think only some people should have free speech.... You can win no debate thinking like that... It shuts off debate & even debates have rules you have to follow

You must have been home schooled

Jim:

Shame on you for prejudging and streotyping.

I do not collapse anyone''s comments.

We all have freedom of speech - even you.

You do not have "freedom of irresponsible speech" & you never had it to begin with..... That upsets you, doesn't it? ---- It always pisses of independents & republicans when ever I remind them of that fact, it starts every tea bagger screaming

Jim.

Republicans, the tea party, parents, church, friends and now independents.

I was wrong. Your inventory of red herrings is limitless.

Debates have rules you have to follow dude, haven't you ever participated on a debate team? Or did you learn not to follow rules of debate by watching the primary false debates?

Add one more red herring - " primary false debates "

I rest my case.

You didn't have a case to begin with, because society holds you to responsible speech & always has from the beginning of the human race

Good thing it wasn't a toilet like we have,,, They would have use a plumber's snake

Yeah,,, No man in China has to succumb to the wife's demands to put the seat down because she is too lazy to do it herself

Guess Tamara never had to go in the woods. Squatting works pretty darn good, no splashing, no problems. And no, you don't have to take your pants totally off.