Egypt's election committee bars 10 candidates from president's race

Asmaa Waguih / Reuters

Former Egypt spy chief and presidential candidate Omar Suleiman, reflects Saturday on his disqualification.

CAIRO -- In the most shocking twist yet in Egypt's Decision 2012, the High Presidential Election Committee changed the political landscape in one fell swoop. The committee announced a decision Saturday night to ban 10 candidates, including some frontrunners who faced challenges to their eligibility.

Gone is the ultraconservative Salafist, Hazem Abu Ismail, who just Friday drew tens of thousands to Tahrir Square to protest the candidacy of another now banned candidate, Omar Suleiman. Suleiman was the former intelligence chief of the old regime. Many opposed him because they felt he would reverse the gainsof the revolution while thousands of others looked toward him to restore security.


Gone also is financier and enforcer of the Muslim Brotherhood, Khairat al Shater. While al Shater had little charisma, he did have the well-oiled machine of the Muslim Brotherhood in his corner and could have proved an unstoppable force.

Two frontrunners remain: Former Foreign Minister and Dean of the Arab League, the secular Amr Moussa, rated as the leader of the pack in a recent poll; moderate Islamist reformer and former member of the Muslim Brotherhood leadership Abdel Menim Abol Fotuh, who has gotten high marks from voters looking for a progressive religious candidate with vision. In an abundance of caution, the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafist group have both fielded second, less-problematic candidates who are less popular but still in the running.

Upon our arrival to Cairo airport Saturday night, nonplussed  passengers and airport workers had just heard the news. They huddled in small groups debating the ramifications. Most were confused but were inclined to now give their vote to Islamist reformer, Abol Fotuh.

"We need a man of religion,” baggage handler Ossama Fatouh said. “The old regime supported oppression, that's all. I will support Abol Fotuh. There is a slogan in the demonstrations, the people want the application of God's law."

Tarek Bahairy, project manager, lamented the banning of his personal favorite, Salafist Abu Ismail. "It’s bad news because we believed in this man.” His vote will also go to Abol Fotuh, he said.

"What is the law that allowed them to stop (Muslim Brotherhood candidate) al Shater," demanded baggage handler Kareem Mahmoud. "It’s understood if they want to eliminate people from the old regime. I think I will vote for Abol Fotuh."

"I am totally confused", agreed Mahmoud Ezz, mechanical engineer. "There are some legal issues for Suleiman but why did they eliminate al Shater? They must state their reasons."

He's waiting until the dust settles to make a decision.

People have come to realize that in Egypt's fast-paced election season, it’s not over till the fat lady sings. Would-be candidates have 48 hours to petition the decision to the election committee, whose binding decision will be made by April 26.

NBC’s Taha Belal also contributed to this report. 

Reports on some of the controversial candidates who have now been banned:

In Egypt, entry of ex-spy chief ups the ante in presidential election

US tie could foil conservative Islamist Egyptian presidential candidate

Muslim Brotherhood shocks Egypt with presidential run

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Yep, so much for that Egyptian "Democratic" Arab Spring which was supposed to bring freedom from suppression.

Waiting for a response from the White House.

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#1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

what response would you want? Democracy is messy. Do you prefer repressive dictators?

In this case the most radical candidates were eliminated. I would think most americans would be happy.

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#1.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

Banning the radicals may not be so democratic but it sounds like the people will get a better leader out of it. I'm curious if the election committee was really given the power to do it though.

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#1.2 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

Muslim Brotherhood was in the White House before elections. Why the Egyptian presisdential election committee barred Omar Suleiman- he must have 1,000 signatures from 15 different governators (states) MB-Shater- he is eligible to run only after 6 yrs of his pardon- Salafi Noir's Ismail because his mother has a different nationality (US citizen in 2006,voter registration,US Passport to visit Egypt) Ismail got a finding from the court-mother not American- Int,Min. findings based on that-will go to court (So Jillary Rodham Clinton- is the mother a US citizen or not?- US/State /HRC also had the Nazi War Crimes criminal John Demjanduk - a stateless person while died while War Crimes Trial in Germany- given papers to return to US for burial -what kind? since a body cannot travel abroad from Germany w/o Passport.) The others who did not qualify Ayman Noir;Ahmed Saidi;Mamdouh Qutb;Ashraf Baroma;Ibrahim al-Ghareed;Mortada Mansour and Ahmed Awad Al-Saudi. Right now while I am typing the Suez Canal's town has a large fire-explosions at the Nasr Petroleum refinery 1 killedc others hurt- the fire is huge (eyewitnesses saw a car burning before explosions (car bomb) blackened smoke can be seen miles away- army/helicopters/police/firemen trying to get a hand in controlling the fire and save the town-other refineries there too close by.

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#1.3 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

Vermont Guy------- What nonsense , you don't just eliminate candidates in a democracy.

You lefty would defend a pedophile if Obama went first

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#1.4 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

So who gets to decide which candidates are 'allowed' to run? Probably the military.

Although it probably IS good news for America, since many of these were 'hard-line' Islamic extremists.

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#1.5 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:59 PM EDT

Wrong, Roy Wilson.

It probably IS bad news for America, since many of these 'hard-line' Islamic extremists were ITS favorites (from day one of the Arab Spring, if you haven't heard).

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#1.6 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

Honestly, I don't care who does what in Egypt. What I do care about is President Obama giving $1.5 billion to the Muslim Brotherhood controlled Egypt without a vote from Congress.

Why are we sending foreign aid to Egypt when we don't even know what their government supports? The newly convened Egyptian parliament has voted to make Israel their number 1 enemy. Why are giving Egypt and Israel money if Egypt no longer supports peace with Israel? I know I didn't go to Harvard Law School, but that seems a little counterproductive. Let's not even get into the obvious elephant in the room...our country doesn't have the money!

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#1.7 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:55 PM EDT

Roy Wilson: For once, I agree with you.

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#1.8 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

More than likely these second tier candidates that are allowed to run are on the take from good ole DC. Will only take a decade or less for the people of Egypt to see what is going on. Democracy is fast becoming a joke, if not a downright scam. The average person has no voice under a democratic system, and everyone in the West is just bought off with freebies, and the "freebies" really aren't free. When the proverbial @!$%# hits theeconomic fan, the folks on the planet will be forced into paying higher taxes for less entitlements/services. Aristotle and Plato knew where all this democracy stuff was headed to, and that is tyranny.

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#1.9 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:26 AM EDT

The other potential reason to this is the military industrial complex and DC wants to keep the Middle East hot, so they can make billions off of the wars that will inevitably come from a hostile Egypt. There is always a reason for stuff like this going down and it always involves money and/or power for DC and Western Finance.

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#1.10 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:29 AM EDT

I don't like all of this candidate banning in Egypt, but historically the United States was not all that Democratic when it started out either. Just a few examples: Women couldn't vote nationally until 1920. In early America you could not vote if you didn't own land. Also, US Senators were chosen by state legislatures, not by popular votes.

I just hope that Egypt can evolve into a real Democracy sooner than later, and respect the rights of minorities (like Christians), and accept that the 'separation of church and state' is important, and not base their entire legal system on Sharia.

In many ways, and in many areas, the world is still as enlightened as the south end of a jackass walking north.

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#1.11 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:55 AM EDT

In an abundance of caution, the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafist group have both fielded second, less-problematic candidates who are less popular but still in the running.

Barry won't comment, this is what he wants! He loves the muslim brotherhood.

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#1.12 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:41 AM EDT

One of the problems with democratically elected governments is that the candidates often reflect the educational level of the voting public. An illiterate superstitious person has an equal say in the choice of leadership. Religion is the only form of education for many Egyptians, and this is the reason for the Islamic leaning of the voting population. The only way to correct this is through exposure to real knowledge and not superstitious knowledge. I know there are many in Egypt who want what is right, but I am certain that those who have a real education will make a better world for Egypt than those who are educated in supernatural superstition.

Egypt needs to revisit the work of Frank Shuman. In 1912 he realized the power of the sun was the final energy source, and it is truely abundant in Egypt. He built the worlds first array of parabolic mirrored solar fields and successfully powered a pumping network for agricultural work. Sadly, panels were dismantled by the German sponsors for scrap metal during World War 1.

Energy and education is key to industry and progress.

If Egypt is to amount to any kind of succcess they need to look into science and progress, and not revisit a 1500 year old religious past.

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#1.13 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

What has this got to do with the White House? Nothing. Just tired Obama haters looking for an issue to drag up.

The USA no longer can prop up dictators everywhere in the world. Our problems with Iran and many other places are the result of such policies in the Cold War era. Time to get over it. If Egypt wants to have a democracy, it is their business. If they want to have something else, it is their business.

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#1.14 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:32 AM EDT

Bravo John. You said a mouthful. That is the way it should be. Egyptians in charge of Egypt.

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#1.15 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

No US aid for Egypt, give the saved $$$ to Israel. In Israel they do not burn American flags (Arab pals in Hamastan excluded) and they put money to good use. Or just keep the money in the US. And while at it, no funds for the UN - I heard Chavez & Ahmadinejad agreed to insult America for free.

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#1.16 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

Atta boy Alex...simplistic answers for very complex problems. You, in your infinite wisdom, need to join the State Department, you'll be Secretary of State in no time with your in-depth of international politics!

Go Alex go!

    #1.17 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

    No in Israel they kill Palestinians ( who are throwing rocks!)

      #1.18 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

      Perhaps they should stop throwing rocks!!

      Sticks and stones will break my bones....

      You do realize they STONE people to death over there right?

        #1.19 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:00 AM EDT
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        Egypt is going to become another middle eastern country that hates America.

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        #2 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

        why? what does this have to do with that?

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        #2.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

        Because the 2 people that are running for election in Egypt are both arabic muslim extremists. Incase you have not noticed, we haven't been on good terms with muslims lately.

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        #2.2 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

        actually, the two frontrunners are not "muslim extremists". Those are gone.

        Gone is the ultraconservative Salafist,Gone also is financier and enforcer of the Muslim Brotherhood. Two frontrunners remain: Former Foreign Minister and Dean of the Arab League, the secular Amr Moussa, rated as the leader of the pack in a recent poll; moderate Islamist reformer and former member of the Muslim Brotherhood leadership Abdel Menim Abol Fotuh

        try to pay attention to what is actually happening.

        Here's a clue for you - this election won't change how "egypt" feels about america.

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        #2.3 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

        Random Pennsylvanian, We haven't been on good terms with Muslims lately beacuse every Muslim is under a microscope and all the good deeds go unnoticed. As I have said before, the US continues to back Israel. When anything is always done the same, the same results occur. Why don't we start backing Palestine and see how we again are respected in the Muslim and Arab countries...we will once again be embraced by the world.

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        #2.4 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

        Vermont Guy--------- Let me tell you again Lefty, you don't just eliminate candidates in a democracy and you would defend a pedophile if Obama did it first. you're not much.

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        #2.5 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

        They've already "reformed" that.

          #2.6 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

          Diplomacy and patience will prevent that from happening, Random. So long as "we stay the course". It's their country and true democracy does not happen over night. Let them figure it out on their own.

          I'm afraid that if the OIL/NRA/Haliburton/Teavangelical/GOP party wins it will be "do as we say or we will make war for up to 13 years before we realize that maybe you should figure it out on your own".

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          #2.7 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

          Bobby w,...........Ron Paul will be glad to hear that from a right winger.....Go Ron Paul, the only candidate who is not owned by Wallstreet

            #2.8 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:46 PM EDT

            Cheryl, fill us in on the good done by Muslims lately.....

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            #2.9 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:51 PM EDT

            That's too bad because we seemed to you know pave the way for the Muslim Brotherhood to rise.

            Oh, you probably mean 'other' Muslim extremists - not the MB?

            Haven't you heard when the Muslim Brotherhood was out in the cold, if not languishing in jails, it was us who helped them, got them out of jails, by toppling their nemesis and then, and then insisted that they be given space to grow politically.

            Our dream had come true!

            If Egyptian Arabs went on to hate America - don't they all? - it's our fault. Our own fault.

            Remember this: most Muslims are, or they claim to be, moderate, friendly, peaceful, at first.

            Let's take immigration, for example.

            When you - say, in America - wake up one morning to find a few men (or even including a woman) in your garden or even car porch who keep on bowing to Allah in their prayers.

            You recoil and backtrak into your home and call the police? Of course not. They look harmless, appear friendly, and apologise profusely for trespassing, and appeal for mercy.

            You hesitate, then give in.

            Most Americans are fair, kind and helpful to others. We will extend assistance to anyone in need..no matter what.

            The thought of turning them over to the authorities does cross your mind, and you have heard of the problems of illgal immigrants and their violent crimes but, at the same time, you feel these Muslims come to you for help, how could you be so cruel to turn them away? They are innocent, they mean no harm to anybody; all they want is good life (paradise) that millions of illegal immigrants come to seek.

            You only hesitate a moment - you decide to help them. You are prepared to appeal to the authorities on behalf of these people. If need be. Or anything for them to remain here. Even help them evade discovery and harbor them until they could get their papers in order!

            A a praise-worthy deed, if I may say so. For these three Muslims, they are so grateful no words can describe.. to America, which they bow down to kiss repeatedly. To their saviors, they call them their dearest, everlasting friends, but...but their religion. Their religion - or shall we say their imams or preachers (who give sermons at the mosques) - teaches them to be loyal, grateful to nobody except Allah!

            They can be friendly to non-Muslims, by all means, but when it comes to choosing between their religion and their friends of other faiths even though they owe them their very life, they will choose their religion.

            Should there be religious war, here in America, don't expect your so-called dearest, everlasting friends..to..hesitate to turn you in!

            If, say, your destitude three friends were reprieved and got their papers in order, and go on to set up homes, get married, go back to their original countries to marry and bring back their wives and their families to America, don't xpect them to be your loyal friends forever. Only at first.

            In England, they are allowed to bring all their four wives including their families which can include uncles, aunts, nephews, nieces and so on. Each immigrant can bring in up to 30 people; and again each of the 30 people is entitled to bring in as many as but not limited to, 30 dependants. All will be settled in council flats - or even bungalows if no large enough council flats are found - at the state's expense. All their legitimate needs are to be met. If these immigrants have school-going children and cannot afford bus fares, they can petition for cash grants to buy cars to transport the children to school. No child is to be deprived of education due to their parents' poverty (could be their rational). Remember, this I am refering to England only.

            Back to our three Muslim friends in America.

            Although I am not sure about assistance, if any, being provided by the state here, but I am sure these three Muslim friends will apply to be allowed to bring in their immediate families (at first) as they claim they are the bread-winners for these people back home.

            Their application most probably will be approved by the government. But whether the government approves or not, these three fellows would not sit still and do nothing while their relatives wait back home.

            And once their immediate relatives are in, even far away relatives or good friends from the same area are also brought in.

            To cut this 'at first story' short, let assume the original three - due to Muslims' prolific reproduction plus the a-fore-said reasons - have multiplied into three thousands (and counting), and have houses or communites mushrooming all over the place somewhere in America.

            In certain areas or districts or towns they may dwarf the local populations. From the destitude three they can grow to three thousands or more and become the majority, and they want to have a say in the administration of the area they live in as well as politics.

            As their numbers grow so are their taxes to the states and their demands. Conscious of their powers it won't be long before they start talking about sharia government, sharia laws, sharia justice systems. Even if the secular justice systems cannot be replaced, they will accept if sharia becomes a part of it, at first.

            And if they want to build a mosque in a certain place and fellow Americans (Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists or atheists) object, they will demonstrate in the streets to demand their rights as Americans and their rights to practice their faith in peace, places of their choice.

            Like the controversial one next to the world trade center! "We will never compromise with anyone on our religion," said Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the man behind the project, defiant.

            So there you have it. According to Imam Feisal, why should he compromise. He's been helping the US government to project a friendlier image of America to the Muslims or Muslim world. If we disallow the building of the mosque near the hallowed ground, proclaims it will arouse the anger of Muslims he said. Hence he won't budge or has his tireless public relation works to the Muslims thrown to the drain.

            He feels that America has to give way a little in order to gain a little space in the Muslim world's heart. He says he's a moderate Imam who loves America and wants America to remain peaceful and prosperous for everyone - Muslims and Non-Muslims. He comes in peace and he says when he chooses to advise the mosque should be allowed to be built as it means no dishonor to those who perished in the September 11 violence we should choose to listen.

            America has come a long way, he says. "We have come to love this country; and as Americans who pay taxes we have rights too. We demand our right to build a mosque any where we please as long as we don't encroach into other people's properties."

            Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf can be compared to our original three destitude Muslim friends who made it. He was not born locally but in Kuwait. (For more information on who is the real Imam Feisal, type this into your browser: ) He proclaims himself as a Muslim moderate or moderate Muslim. Perhaps that's why the US government has hired him to do public relation works in the Middle East (which Washington is so interested in and is prepared to uphold any Muslim argument no matter what).

            Yes, I agree he's moderate, at first, but when the outcry against the controversial mosque exploded, he and his wife were at a loss how to response.

            But after President Obama waded in and proclaimed Muslims have as much rights as other Americans to worship wherever they please, everything changed. They stood their ground; and claimed if the mosue project was stopped, the Muslims throughout the world, moderates and extremists, would be enraged and radicalized and ...!

            This stereotyping, which some people may not understand, applies to most Muslims when they first arrive at our shores.

            They are all for anything at first.

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            #2.10 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:57 AM EDT

            Texas Gramou and SyriaInTurmoil, I am Muslim. I help anyone I can no matter what their religion and that's inclusive of the Jewish faith as long as I have their respect as a human being. Also if it comes to choosing about helping someone of the Islamic religion and it wasn't feeling right in my heart, stomach or in my mind, I would not help them rather I would help someone else who really needed the help. So again, stop the sterotyping. I was born here, my Dad served in WWII, my family is Christian but I chose to convert. I welcome all into my home as I said as long as they have respect for myself and my family. There are many cabbies in NYC who are Muslim and return big bucks left in their cabs....for nothing else than to do a good deed. No othger religion is scrutinized so much. I don't speak ill of anyone's religion. All people of every faith were created and placed on this Earth by Allah(God). Approach everyday living differently, using an open mind rather than a preconceived notion that all Mulims are bad. My granparents come from Germany/Russia, Ireland and Armenia(the first to accept Jesus), both of my parents dwere born here. People who come from overseas as a first generation of course continue their close ties to overseas, especially with today's technology. Rest assured my grandparents did the same as well as any other human who moved from their homeland and their family has done. Muslims are not aliens...we have the same red blood running through our veins, the same organs in our bodies, the same emotions and needs as any one of Allah (God's) other human creations. We also believe in Jesus, but as a prophet, not the son of God. Our belief is similar to Christianity but we believe in the last prophet to be on Earth, Mohammed. Additionally as it has been brought to other's attention.....Islam is the most populous religion in the world.....the majority of people in this world are Muslim, so that must same two things.....most people find peace in Islam and one should recognize that Muslims by enlarge are peaceful, otherwise we would not be hear discussing this, the world would've been blown up already. What about Jeffrey Dahmer, Adolph Hitler, the Oklahoma City bomber (his name slips my mind), Charles Manson and a load of others ? None of them were Muslim. There are sick extremists in every walk of life. No one on this planet has the right to judge another's religion. Allah (God) Will do that on Judgement Day. I pray for all and wish everyone to have good in their hearts ...and for those who don't, regardless of their religion, it is up to Allah (God) on Judgement Day. And I will pray now for everyone who still has doubt and hate in them to overcome their emotions and look at the good Muslims do as well.

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            #2.11 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

            Have you ever been to Egypt? The people there may not like the U.S. for sticking its nose into their business, but they love the American people. I have been there and it is one of my favorite places to travel. Of course, the fact that President Obama reached out to the Muslims to attempt to improved relations that were badly damaged by the Bush administration most surely helped.

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            #2.12 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

            Patricia, they don't love you, just your American currency. Tourism is at an all time low you see. I wouldn't go to the Middle East or Northern Africa if they paid me. There are plenty of beautiful places I have not seen right here in our Country. You go right ahead and throw your money away in other Countries that despise us, I'll spend it right here in the good old U.S.A where it is needed. How soon people forget of the Tourist bus that terrorist opened fire on visiting the pyramids. To hell with all of them.

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            #2.13 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

            The Chuckster,

            You are partially correct.......they do love our money, but so do all countries. And I too was to Egypt and Patricia is absolutely correct. The people are warm and embracing and need to make a livelihood as well. If God only wanted us to see, enjoy and spend our money in THE GOOD OL' USA, He Would not ever have created the other countries of the world. I'm born in the USA !!!!

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            #2.14 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

            Let this entire politically backward bunch figure it out themselves. We have no business being there, there is not a single muslim country that is anything but backward, illiterate, cruel, and with no ability to manage commerce, infrastructure, or any of the things that provides a quality of life and happiness. The problem is the hate filled, subjugating culture of islam which disguises itself as a religion. This "religion" demands control over elected secular governments and forces it's culture on all the people. Our best bet...stand aside, let them fight and kill each other which is what has gone on for centuries in muslim countries..

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            #2.15 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

            You should hop on a plane and visit Muslim countries......you may learn something. People are much more content in their hearts and share more quality time together.

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            #2.16 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:37 AM EDT

            Cheryl, I have been very fortunate to have many friends in various Muslim countries. As in other countries where I have friends such as Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and India to name a few, most people want nothing more than to spend quality time with their family and friends. Unfortunately, the politicians that lead many of the Muslim countries do not want peace until they see Israel's demise. In fact, there is great divide between the Shia and Sunni Muslims. Hardly any of the foreign aid that the US sends to these countries actually reaches the people. Most of it ends up in the pockets of the politicians. I prefer China's version of foreign aid where they go into countries and build facilities for the people. Otherwise, foreign aid to countries who do not want peace until Israel is extinct is out of the question.

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            #2.17 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

            Yes it goes back to a handful in power....it's a shame that the land which is rightfully Palestine's has been taken from them and no one understands why they are upset. Put the shoe on the other foot for once....pay the mortgage, taxes, insurance and maintain the property. Decide one day you want to add a room, so you go to the town to apply for a permit, only to be told your name isn't on the deed...it's been handed to someone else. Many do not wish to understand the Palestini people's gripe here. MSN had a photo of a Palestinian man in construction who went to the site his boss directed the crew to. Instead of the Israeli soldiers who clearly had manpower and rifles telling the Palestinians they could not do the work, what happened? They knocked him down and had a truck drive over his legs. Explain how that is fair??? If the shoe were on the other foot the Palestinians would be called terrorists.

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            #2.18 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

            @Cheryl...unfortunately...war is hell and to the victors go the spoils. The Syrians used many positions with the support of the Palestinians and the PLO to fire mortars and artillery rockets into Israel prior to the Six day War. After Egypt provoked Israel by closing the straits to Israel, esentially creating a blockade, the Israelis had little choice but to attack. The Jordanians and Syrians attacked Israel. A peace treaty signed by Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Israel was brokered by the United Nations. In 1973, an attempt to reclaim the land from Israel was rebuffed. The Palestinians have little choice. Many chose to flee to Jordan. The rest can either choose to try to reclaim what they believe is theirs through force or assimilate.

            I am not here to debate what is fair. I have taught my children at a very early age that life is not fair. We have to learn to succeed within the rules and if we ever get into a position to make the rules, keep in mind the golden rule. Obviously, that brings me back to my original premise...I have friends throughout the world. Some of them have friends in countries that their government is at war. Many of my Muslim friends are friends with many of my Jewish friends. The problem isn't really with the people, but the corrupt governments.

              #2.19 - Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:11 PM EDT

              Dave20121,

              I agree with your last sentence. In the USA there is the Democratic party, the Republican party and the Independent party......no matter who is elected-once they're in, IT'S 1 BIG PARTY (FIESTA). They all know what to say to schmooze our votes and conveniently forget what their campaign promises were.

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              #2.20 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

              Cheryl Haque,

              you seem hard on the Jews but love everything about Israel's enemies.

              Don't worry, I respect your opinion. If you want to continue to expose your unrestrained bias to the world, hoping that you will land in the good book of the Muslims, like the Europeans do, by all means.

              Are you originally from Europe by any chance? You sound a lot like the Swiss, Swedish, or Norwegians who regularly send activists to try to break Israel's blockade of Gaza to earn jihadists' goodwill.

              All it took was a few bombings by these hard-line Muslims in these countries to cow them into submission. Even once mighty England couldn't stand up to the Jihadists. The British have become so paranoid they dare not show Chritmas trees in public places for fear of offending the Muslims.

              Wait a minute; correction. The first country that was subdued was Brittain, not Switzeland or Sweden or Norway.

              You're welcome to join these English people, if you haven't already done so. I can't blame you for wanting to be on the safe side.

              Last question, and you better get this one right; what have you got against the Israelis? Haven't you heard that there was no such name as Palestine until the Roman Emperor Hadrian placed it on the country of Israel in 135 A.D.

              Even after Prophet Muhammad and his marauders came to occupy the area after the Romans left, the Arabs (who now refer to themselves as Palestinians) never really settled down there and never set up any government to, for instance, administer the are and collect taxes until 1940 something. As there was no government , no authority, recognition was not possible. These Palestinians who were originally Arabs from nearby areas became Palestinians only after the British allowed them. Even Lebanon, Syria or Jordan, for example, came into being courtesy of the British Colonial Authority then.

              I suggest you withdraw your statement that Israel took lands from the Palestinians. They did not. As a matter of fact they were driven away from their lands without any compensation.

              I have nothing personal against you. I am doing this because I think you should know.

              Have a nice day.

                #2.21 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:21 PM EDT
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                Hillary and O'Dumbo must be so proud of the democracy they created.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#3 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

                they didn't create this, the egyptian people did. We actually had very little to do with it. Try to keep up.

                • 8 votes
                #3.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

                You're giving our President and Secretary of the State way too much credit. I doubt 84 million Egyptians care about what we have to say. Maybe you'll accuse Obama for parting the Red Sea too.

                • 5 votes
                #3.2 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

                cunical

                Hillary and O'Dumbo must be so proud of the democracy they created

                ---------------------------

                By your logic george bush must be so proud of the No Child Lefy Behind Act. The only problem is you obviously got left behind. It never ceases to amaze me how some people just can't help themselves and must turn everything into a I Hate Obama post. Obama and Clinton had nothing to do with where Eygpt is today. Actually it seems maybe the country is really trying to embrass democracy. Too bad you cons find that so terrifing.

                It misght do you well to do some reading about the early years of this country. Things don't happen over night. Quit watching so much tv and maybe then your expectation will be realistic.

                • 2 votes
                #3.3 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

                Vermont Guy--- go play in the basement.

                Obama and Clinton had former diplomatic personnel dealing with the MUSLIM Brotherhood before the revolt and he had current diplomatic personnel dealing with them during the revolt.

                You tell us what the inept lying quasi socialist in the white house was doing.

                • 2 votes
                #3.4 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

                Do you really believe that we didn't have a hand in this Arab Spring crap? C'mon this template has been played out for far too long for people to think this stuff just happens. We perfected the template with Ukraine, and before that Georgia, and the other ex Soviet Bloc states. We send pro democracy NGOs, which if you follow the money while reading about them they get funding from the US State Dept or the CIA. They stir up disenfranchised parts of the country to rebel or throw mass demonstrations. In the end t he nation targeted has gone down the path of democracy, but in reality has done nothing but elect a bunch of hacks that sell out the nation to Western Financial interests. Take Ukraine. The Orange Revolution petered out, because it wasn't really a revolution, but the brief time that govt was in charge they managed to peg the hryvnna to the dollar, robbing the average Ukrainian of up to 50% of their savings' buying power. Libya is the bestexample. Qaddafi actually was killing Al Qaeda in N Africa, he was a reformed guy, but he was going to stab Western finance in the back with trying to set up a Pan African bank where sub Saharan African nations could take out loans without paying the heinous interest that the World Bank and IMF charge. When he was trying to do this, we decided to start our Libyan regime change problem with getting together with these seperatist elements. Nobody hears or talks about Libya anymore, but it has turned from the only financially sound nation in N Africa and most of the Arab World into a @!$%#hole in less than a year!!!!!!

                • 1 vote
                #3.5 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:39 AM EDT

                what plant you live on

                  #3.6 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

                  @!$%#nical, and you must be so proud of you arrogance and ignorance.

                    #3.7 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                    "Stupid is as stupid does", and you're just plain stupid!

                      #3.8 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:15 PM EDT
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                      These fools don't want freedom. They want an Islamic theocracy like Iran. They vote in these religious leaders and they will never be rid of them. They see Iran, and if they are dumb enough vote in the Islamists, it then so be it.

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#4 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

                      Terry......"they vote in these religious leaders and they will never be rid of them?".........Please leave Bush, his puppet master and the American Taliban out of this discussion.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

                      These so call fools look at the dead culture of American and have decided they don't want to assimilate. Think of America and the push for democracy as being the Borg in the Star Trek series. All the Borg want to do is to conquer and assimilate people to their way of existence. Our way of existence isn't so hot. I mean it basically boils down to following the almighty buck and gratuitous sex. Not to mention our ever growing aversion for violence.

                        #4.2 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:43 AM EDT

                        Yes, America is responsible for the Arab Spring, and as the problems in Egypt stemmed from the Arab Spring aka regime change, who else to blame.

                        You may argue that all the US did was encourage the Arabs to demand for the rights that we enjoy in America. What's wrong with that, you say.

                        Now what about the part..'if your governments refuse, fight them?' Wasn't that an instigation?

                        Deny it as much as we want, but we're responsible for the problems in Egypt and the rest of the Middle East.

                        No question about it. Please keep up, won't you?

                          #4.3 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:22 AM EDT

                          Have you ever been out side the city or the heck town you live in , you know nothing about Egypt I am a Canadian who is living here for three year and i can assure you , you and people like you know nothing other than the brain wash media you see on your state controlled TV like CNN & Fox news

                            #4.4 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

                            Alan, your comments say much more than you imagine. BTW, what is a "heck" town? Is that something you have in Canada? Land of the enlightened. Just kidding about Canada, your not representative of that country.

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.5 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:43 AM EDT

                            No Alan, e don't have state controlled media, what we have is a populous too lazy to research answers that are available in the media. But you have want to investigate and be informed.

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.6 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                            And Terry, that's exactly right, plus I agree with the Chuckster, I've traveled widely for many years, but never, never will I give a dime to any muslim country, let this hideous failed culture rot.

                            • 2 votes
                            #4.7 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:06 PM EDT
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                            Can we get a committee to bar Obama?

                            • 9 votes
                            Reply#5 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

                            If you like a barring system that much, move to Egypt. I heard they like religious based government and as much restriction on women as possible.

                            • 4 votes
                            #5.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

                            First study the election laws, find the loop-hole, and then act.

                            • 3 votes
                            #5.2 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

                            Why clown? Because he's black?

                              #5.3 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:20 PM EDT
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                              if you look at whos barred its good thing look at names that was barred mostly ultraconservitive islamtic folks including muslim brotherhood

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#6 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

                              We've had months of whining from the obama haters about how the islamacists and muslim brotherhood were going to take over egypt. Those two top candidates are barred..and yet the haters STILL aren't happy.

                              No pleasing some, I guess. :)

                              Egypt is a complicated country. The military has really held power for decades. Until they decide to become islamacists/terrorists/etc, then egypt will be fine from our perspective.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#7 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

                              We don't hate Obama, we hate his desicions.

                              • 7 votes
                              #7.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

                              lol, sure, whatever. Irrational posts indicate otherwise. If it rains, the haters blame obama. If it doesn't rain, the haters blame obama. :)

                              As I said, no matter what happens in egypt...where obama has NO "decisions" to be made, obama gets blamed. I think that indicates strong obama hatred. :)

                              • 3 votes
                              #7.2 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                              That sounds just like Climate Change.

                              It's record cold---caused by Climate Change.

                              It's record heat---caused by Climate Change.

                              • 2 votes
                              #7.3 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

                              Vermont Guy we don't hate Obama, you have to know someone to hate them.

                              We do despise him, but then we despise all of you lefty handouters.

                              If Obama announced tomorrow, that he is a practicing pedophile, you would be defending pedophiles the day after.

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.4 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                              Vermont guy, if it works for the bush2 denigrators, why shouldn't it work for the obama denigrators? Isn't that what obama would call "fair and balanced"?

                              • 1 vote
                              #7.5 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:17 PM EDT

                              Slodon: How about you educate yourself about how climate change works? Try NASA's webpage.

                              • 1 vote
                              #7.6 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:16 AM EDT

                              Bobby W,

                              You should be glad breathing is a motor function, because if it wasn't you'd suffocate.

                              You're a perfect example of the stupidity of politics today. If I'm on the right, the left is all wrong, if I'm on the left the right is all wrong. And, you don't see a problem here? Well, based on your comment, I guess not.

                                #7.7 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:27 PM EDT
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                                This thread SHOULD be filled with positive comments about egypt, since the two least favorable candidates (from america's viewpoint) are barred. The military is exercising their power to keep the country at least semi-moderate, and that's a good thing.

                                yet its filled with even more whining. how pathetic. Gotta put kids to bed...

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#8 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

                                You don't do that in a democracy, twit, you and Obama like to do it your way, don't you?

                                • 2 votes
                                #8.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:50 PM EDT

                                It effectively means democracy is a sham. And by the way, the military is bought off by the US. Who gives them billions of dollars every year? Most Egyptians know this. Once they understand nothing has fundamentally changed, then we will be in for major problems.

                                  #8.2 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:46 AM EDT

                                  The So called 1.3 US Billion that USA pays , is for a dictator like mubarak to keep peace with Israel , and where is that money go ??? to Mubarak account so what that make the USA look like ?? Nothing like a free Democratic country as they claim they are just corrupted nation as mubarak and his gang

                                    #8.3 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                                    You are all wrong. The US support for Egypt was begun to reward Egypt for making peace with Israel during Anwar Sadat's time, and is meant to match aid given to Israel. It is probably time to reconsider that aid, and if we stop it we should also stop aid to Israel also.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #8.4 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:42 AM EDT
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                                    You know, these are the Democratic uprisings that Bush openly sought with his interventionist policies. We started running a radio free arab world type station, and helped democratic activists all over the region. Lots of people said we wouldn't like what Arab and Persian Democracy would like, and now the party that voted Bush in seems unhappy. Why was it you were cheering on these efforts under Bush, and now that Obama inherits the results of these policies you raise a ruckus? Did any of you actually pay attention to any of the actions of the Bush administration, or did you just eat up the mainstream media conservative bias?

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#9 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

                                    Uh huh, you bet lefty, just coincidence they all happened after Obama started his apology tour.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #9.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:51 PM EDT

                                    Michelle, what amuses me the most is that boih obamas and bush1&2's foreign policy goals are essentially the same with the only differences being in the use of technology advances to effect them. Yet bush is bad and obama is good.

                                      #9.2 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:25 PM EDT

                                      Bobby W: You do realize that whole "apology tour" thing is total right-wing BS?

                                      The claim that Obama apologizes for the nation began to take shape shortly after he became president. It had been bubbling in the conservative blogs before Karl Rove, who was George W. Bush’s political adviser, had an article titled “The President’s Apology Tour” published in the Wall Street Journal on April 23, 2009, just three months after Obama took the oath of office.

                                      By June, the conservative Heritage Foundation began running a list: “Barack Obama’s Top 10 Apologies: How the President Has Humiliated a Superpower.”

                                      Most of the criticism stems from a series of speeches Obama made shortly after entering the White House, when he was trying to introduce himself to the world and also signify a distancing from the Bush administration through new policies, such as pledging to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

                                      This is typical of many new presidents. Bush, for instance, quickly broke with Clinton administration policy on dealings with North Korea, the Kyoto climate change treaty and the international criminal court, to name a few.

                                      In a lengthy article on the Fact Checker blog, we tracked down every statement Obama uttered that partisans claim was an apology, and concluded that each one had been misquoted or taken out of context.

                                      Romney often cites a statement Obama made in April 2009 as evidence that he does not believe in American exceptionalism.

                                      Asked by a British reporter whether he thought the United States was uniquely qualified to lead the world, Obama answered: “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.” As Romney put it in his book, this “is another way of saying he doesn’t believe it all.”

                                      But Obama was just getting warmed up. His next sentence was: “I’m enormously proud of my country and its role and history in the world.” He continued: “If you think of our current situation, the United States remains the largest economy in the world. We have unmatched military capability. And I think that we have a core set of values that are enshrined in our Constitution, in our body of law, in our democratic practices, in our belief in free speech and equality, that, though imperfect, are exceptional.”

                                      Take it from us: The apology tour never happened.

                                      -FactCheck.org

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #9.3 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

                                      Sir, your answer is way too long and factual for the ditto-heads who troll this site looking for any chance to slam Obama. It is easier to repeat slogans than to actually think or read.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #9.4 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:46 AM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      A country governed by god's law is doomed; you'll have bunch of schizophrenics hearing voices from god ruling the country.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#10 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

                                      lonesome.......I have been warning people about that very thing since the American Taliban choose all those religious fanatic candidates to run for president.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #10.1 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:12 AM EDT

                                      You people are idiots. Check bodycounts. I think both the Communists and the proto communists of 1795 and 1848 have a higher body count than any religious folks. Throw in the fascists also for good measure. They used religion at first, but effectively destroyed it once they got a frim grip on power. More heads were lopped off during the French Revolution than people were killed during the 200 years of the Inquisition. I do not think the ME under Islamist rule is perfect, far from it for sure, but damn, check out our culture lately? Our lax society has created more harm than good in terms of social problems. Yeah the Muslims treat their women like second class citizens, but our women are basically hookers or lesbians, the other extreme portion of the spectrum. My point is who are we to judge or tell the Arabs what they want. They see modern living as being totally materialistic, no spiritual values in it or offering something divine to try to live up to. The US started out socially by trying to uphold Christian values, but as time went by we chucked them for the lie of modern living.

                                        #10.2 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:59 AM EDT
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                                        and we also can send obama and his minions there and they can run the country right into the ground.

                                        he wants to rule the world, he has my vote to leave.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        Reply#11 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

                                        Yep, I would vote for the inept lying quasi socialist to be the next president of Egypt.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #11.1 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:52 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        Was the ban on Suleyman approved by Field Marshal Tantawi? I think not, and will never be. And without Tantawi's approval any decision by any board or even the legislation is null and void.

                                          Reply#12 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

                                          Anotehr disaster for Obama the hits just keep on coming.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          Reply#13 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:42 PM EDT

                                          What a fine mess you've created when you choose sides.

                                          Congratulations B.H.O., another failure.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          Reply#14 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

                                          He chose the side of freedom from oppression. What is wrong with that? Isn't that what our own Declaration of Independence celebrates?

                                            #14.1 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:49 AM EDT
                                            Reply

                                            Muslim Brotherhood already starting crap..

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#15 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:06 PM EDT

                                            Let's quit the bickering about our politics, and discuss the real interesting but sad point from this article. That is, the fact that a committee can and did override and control a "free" election, and very quickly eliminate what quite a few people in Egypt gave their lives for. A free society.

                                            To put it in perspective, can you imagine A US election where the frontrunning Democratic candidate was eliminated by a committee (not elected) before the election took place, because of, for example, his perceived religious affiliation. Does that really sound democratic and free to you? What it sounds like, is politics as usual, Egyption style. Why did they even bother to have a "Spring" if this is the degree of freedom they were rewarded with. Honestly, I don't think they have quite grasped the meaning of freedom in Egypt yet as it pertains to elections and speech.

                                            Bottom line is, if you take away free elections, a free press, or complete freedom of speach, you don't have a free society. What you have is . . .. hmm, a Russion society?

                                            • 1 vote
                                            Reply#16 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

                                            The committee announced a decision Saturday night to ban 10 candidates, including some frontrunners who faced challenges to their eligibility.

                                            So this is the bold new democracy in Egypt? The people will decide! (except they will not be allowed to candidate candidate A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, or K).

                                            How is this any better than one of those carefully controlled Mubarak elections from past years that everyone was roundly condemning when justifying his overthrow?

                                            • 1 vote
                                            Reply#17 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

                                            Adam,.....That is how America does it, except for committees doing the banning, it is the republican and democratic parties that keep alternate parties off state ballots

                                              #17.1 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:23 AM EDT
                                              Reply

                                              edit: "(except they will not be allowed to choose candidate A, B, C...)"

                                              • 1 vote
                                              Reply#18 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:01 PM EDT

                                              the president and the constitution are the next Random in Egypt Because the active majority in next election in Egypt are Muslim extremists.

                                                Reply#19 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

                                                NONE of them could possibly lick the soles of Anwar Sadat's shoes. They'll be killing each other in the streets, just as in Syria, except Egypt's population is FOUR TIMES that of Syria's.

                                                  Reply#20 - Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

                                                  NON of that will ever happen , mark my words , Islamist will be out of the picture , and civilian president will be in power , time will show

                                                    #20.1 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:30 AM EDT
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                                                    I'm really amazed that people in America and elsewhere believe that democracy will be practiced in Egypt. Egypt has been governed by dictators and their minions for almost 1500 years. Check the Egyptian history, a new dictator topples or replaces another dictator and so on. Believe me, democracy doesn't apply in Egypt and the rest of the middle east. I know what I'm talking about, I was born and raised in Egypt!

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    Reply#21 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

                                                    the last thing a government needs in it is religion!!! when will they learn.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    Reply#22 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:34 AM EDT

                                                    I have faith that our President will speak on this although it will be difficuly to understend him with both feet in his mouth. Then we can get a White House Spokes person to clarify it and put the proper spin on it

                                                      Reply#23 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:49 AM EDT

                                                      With the Middle East being a hotbed for terrorism, I don't think Egypt or any other Islamic country needs a "man of religion."

                                                        Reply#24 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

                                                        Agree 100%

                                                          #24.1 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:33 AM EDT
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                                                          I only wish they would 'ban' candidates in the U.S. Ban anyone who is part of a lobby, religious cult, or Wall Street CEO. That would at least assure a better alternative to Obama than Romney. Guess I'll be "throwing away" my vote again this year to some 3rd party presidential candidate who won't get past single digits.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          Reply#25 - Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:52 AM EDT
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