Will, do you have any clue what you're talking about? Do you know anything about the Korean peninsula, the history of the nations, and what has been done to ensure peace? Also, have you given a slight thought to ramifications of the two most militarized nations in the world (per capita) waging a war?

Well I guess we're all lucky that you're just a little neighborhood watch person, instead of someone important like a diplomat or general. Keep kicking ass on the block, and let the smart people run the country, kthxbye.

Rob, I hesitate to involve myself in other folks' duels, but in this case I think Wil is correct. The history of the Korean Peninsula has been one of war, Chinese invasions, Japanese invasions and cultural invasions by the West. After WWII there was established two separate nations, North and South Korea. The North supported by the PRC under Mao and the USSR. The South supported by the UN, mainly America. During the saber rattling days of the Cold War the supporters of North Korea stood with them when they invaded the South, to reunify the Peninsula under Communist rule. We defended the South, bringing un-tested troops in from Japan and Okinawa. Ok, we got whipped and were sent down the Peninsula in retreat. The UN, and America, re-grouped and thanks to the amphibious landings we were able to send the North Koreans retreating out of South Korea. When we reached the Yalu River, border with the PRC, Chinese hordes raged across the border. We defeated them, threatened major bombing of the Chinese Mainland. Peace talks were begun and everytime the Chinese balked we and the UN advanced a little further. The truce was finally signed, but the Truce signing didn't end the Korean War, it simply, in the minds of the North, gave them time to rebuild for another try. And, lol, here we are facing another continuation of the war. So, Rob, that's my take on the history of the Korean Peninsula, what's yours? What should we do, just throw up our hands and get out, suffering the consequences of that world wide? Wil may have come on a bit radical but basically he was right. I learned early on, in school yards, that when I'm threatened to just have it out right then and there, no standing around "Talking about it." Personally, I think South Korea itself ought to launch a major invasion of the North, finish that bellicose nation once and for all, finish the Korean War with an absolute victory, before it becomes too powerful.

And don't forget: General MacArthur wanted to win the war, use the nukes to let China know that it needed to back WAY off! Shopkeeper Truman fired the General, and so we have the mess that we are in today! Give the military a directive, give them the support to win, and then back away - anytime you try to have a PC war, you get things like Afg and Iraq!

I say let them starve maybe we'll be headed for a N. Korean summer.

I am hoping that this is just more rhetoric. If the North actually does attack the South we will see the outbreak of full scale war on the Korean Peninsula. This will turn into a proxy war between the US, backing the South, and China, backing the North. What worries me most about this is that North Korea has nuclear weapons and, if they were to start losing a war with the South, their leadership is just crazy enough to use them. The South will certainly not sit still and take it if the North attacks in any way, so I sincerely hope this is just Kim Jong Un posturing. The thing that is most concerning is the specificity of the threat sounds like more than just the usual rhetoric. With this child-like temper tantrum, Kim Jong Un may have painted himself into a corner. He either is going to have to follow through on this threat or loses all credibility both internationally and, more importantly, with his own people and military. This puts him in a very precarious position. After this specific threat, if nothing happens we may see the rapid demise of Kim Jong Un's rule of North Korea and the military seizing control of the government. This would be a very dangerous development, although obviously not as immediate a problem as if the North actually make good on the threat and launches some type of attack. It is going to be an extremely tense couple of weeks or months on the Korean Peninsula waiting for the other shoe to drop. Based on the news reports about the tunnel construction, not to mention the failure of the rocket launch, I have been fully expecting the North to detonate another nuclear test, but these specific threats are far more worrying.

Yes, time to show these "A" holes that when they talk crap that they will get their asses wiped.

North Korea, as usual, will never actually DO anything. And desertboy.... if you like wiping other's asses, I hear they need more help at the nursing homes... just sayin...

Yes, time to show these "A" holes that when they talk crap that they will get their asses wiped.

Oh goodie! And who do you plan on doing the "wiping"? You do realize that the PRK has one of the world's LARGEST armies (if not THE largest)? And that China, with millions more under arms is RIGHT there to help?

And maybe you know about supply chains -- oh wait, I think you don't? How about the term "war of attrition". They have a lot of people to, as the military would say, attrite! (I hate they use the word that way, but they do.)

And guess who are allies with the PRK ... Iran! Hmmm .... think THEY won't start something while we are occupied with "wiping"?

Sheesh people THINK!

Chinese Veto is for sale in return for natural resources of Rogue Countries. So all Rogue nations are safe.

"..you tiny brained wipers of other people's bottoms."

I will disagree with Brokinarrow on one point, North Korea may do something, especially if China wants a distraction or has a need. But they definitely won't act on their own.

You are right. This is what MacArthur wanted to do but got fired instead. Now we have this idiotic cease fire which has lasted over 50 years. Technically, North & South Korea are still at war. South Korea should launch a massive nuclear strike on North Korea and wipe them out for good.

This is a very unpopular country. Also exists and consists under a very unrealistic leadership. If It ever does really commence a war, "North Korea" will quickly be stricken from the face of the Earth. Wouldn't be a damn thing China or Russia could or would do about it either. The world becomes more tired and angry with this little gang of extremely stupid, and mouthy thugs daily.

China would never help North Korea with war. Ink it.

North Korea is like that family member who has gone off the deep end....maybe bomb that country with weed

They lost a lot of "street cred" when they bungled their recent missile launch. One thing is for sure though, if the new young ruler ever hopes to join civilized nations, he's going to have to kick the power behind the throne out on their crazy old arses.

His dad died, now he's just blowing steam so these cult lead people don't start doubting.

But they don't have oil so I doubt the US would be getting involved if there were any real threats.

North Korea will end up dropping a nuclear bomb on themselves with their missile launch capability.

china would never get involved they have to many trade ties currently with the US. If they did anything then they could no longer sell their goods to walmart.

we have cut off our food aid to North Korea; they will now threaten to go invade the South; we will offer humanitarian assistance (food aid) and they will tone it down; if the food embargo lasts another 6 weeks, there will be mass starvation in the North, China is buying large tonnage of grain stuffs to ship to the North Korea , China does not want their rogue state to cause any problems( China is not governed by the food embargo, they never agreed to the world treaty) we will not stop selling the food stuffs to China, even though we know a lot of it is being diverted to North Korea, they could collapse our economy overnight .

eric1964, china does not sell their goods to walmart. Instead they make those goods for walmart.

One other option is to turn the Fat Little Inbred over somebodys knee. Spank the living Crap outta him "IN PUBLIC" for all his people too see.

China backs North Korea (one of the only countries that still does.) The US backs South Korea.

If the North attacks the South they're swiftly going to get slapped down because militarily we are stronger. Are we going to go on the offensive? No. Will we defend? Yes.

China and the US enjoy an unprecedented amount of trade and economic fortification that would make conflict between the two nations inadvisable. Simpy put--it's not going to happen.

Here's the two likeliest scenarios from here on out:

Scenario 1: Jong Un makes this announcement today. China advises caution, Jong Un continues to profess aggression. China may not economically sanction NK but if Jong Un makes the first move, they will denounce the move, may possibly send in their own troops to pacify the country and set up a possible 'occupation' with the current government as a figurehead/puppet government with China behind the curtain pulling the strings.

Scenario 2: Jong Un makes this announcement today. China advises caution, Jong Un continues to profess aggression. Then they commit an overt act of aggression. SK defends with the assistance of the US, the UN will denounce the move as one of hostility, and a mixed peacekeeping force will move in on NK and defuse the situation. The US is not going to commit to any unilateral moves against NK--we're tired of war and the Middle East situation right now proposes more of a current threat to US interests than NK now. In the big scheme of things, Jong Un is simply not that important, no matter how he wants to be with foolishly grandiose statements like this that in the end he simply can't follow through.

Either way, the cease-fire that has existed on the Korean peninsula since my Dad was there fighting in the Korean War is going to end sometime in my lifetime.

Jong Un right now feels like he has some very large shoes to fill. He saw the 'nationwide expression' of grief the people of NK expressed for their fallen leader and has no idea of the sociopolitical machination that goes into manipulating and brainwashing the people into those affectations of grief. and, in the way of narcissistic egomaniacs everywhere, he wants to outdo his father, to be better. He doesn't see that a path to peace would make him more respected than his father was; he's a child who believes that 'he who has the most toys has the most power'. He can't see that the greatest power comes from those who have the toys but choose not to use them; such realizations only come with maturity and experience. And Jong Un doesn't have either.

It was to be hoped that the rest of the government would have balanced his immaturity and inexperience with their own, but they apparently are more interested in maintaining the status quo. Hopefully they will have enough sense to realize that his proposed actions are more dangerous to their agenda than anything else.

The child is trying to crash the new RC toy car he was given. Someone take the batteries out of the remote before he does.

The best thing for our economy is for China to embargo us. If we and the EU require that 25% of all manufactured products sold in the US and EU be made in the US and EU, employment would increase bringing with it tax revenue (instead of unimployment subsidies) and ending the Euro crisis and stabilize the US stock market. So China would be stupid to back NK.

Repetitive news Article.

North Korea has always been like this---Threats-----their missile recently being tested blew up in 2 minutes---

The entire Propaganda Mouthing is to show. and continue to put South Koreans in fear; using the new Leader Um something Ill as the strong person his father was running the Country. He's in training.

I doubt this kid knows anything about causing a War--it is the Old Kim Jung Ill's father's sidekicks who are flaunting their Power. Do they have Power in the World? When rid of them, things might change.

They should feed their people. That would be a start.

...... North Korea would launch a large-scale military attack against Seoul, which is backed by nearly 30,000 U.S. troops stationed in the South,......

I like to see how this 30,000 would stand up to NK 1,000,000+ troops should they suddenly decide to attack.

During the Korean war they used human wave attacks. They have no concerns about losing a few hundred thousand, just canon fodder.

when someone runs off at the mouth, the only way to give them pause for their spewing and threatening is a good rap in the mouth.

So, we can make the North Koreans stop spewing nonsense at a cost of tens of thousands of Korean lives, a few thousand American lives, a trillion dollars or more, and at a risk of a war between the United States and China.

Does that sound like a good deal to you?

use the nukes to let China know that it needed to back WAY off

Let's see. North Korea has nukes. China has nukes. Iran WANTS nukes. And you want to nuke China? Any particular reason to believe that would be a good idea? What will we benefit? North Korea will stop talking trash? Any other benefit to killing millions of people, or is that supposed to be a benefit in and of itself?

they will get their asses wiped

Did you mean "whipped" or is that a general comment about personal hygiene in North Korea?

they will get their asses wiped

Forget the food aid. We need to commence humanitarian air drops of Desenex.

No wonder they're irritable. They all have diaper rash.

China would never help North Korea with war. Ink it.

Nobody said China would help North Korea, but if it benefitted China, they might quietly encourage them to war while publicly denouncing the war. The U.S. has done no less before.

Some sad truths about DPRK:

During the first war, China's and USSR's direct involvement assured that the war could not be won by the south, but neither did they commit fully to win the war for the north.

DPRK now exists solely by support from China for reasons only guessed at.

Maybe that China feels the need to have a truly dysfunctional government next door to make themselves look better to their own people, and conversely, having a successful and prosperous unified Korea governed as South Korea is would be very uncomfortable for China to have on its boarder. Or, that DPRK is part of a contingency for when China makes a move for China-Taiwan.

Corrupt elements of China also greatly profit from black markets and human smuggling with DPRK. Women are a prime export of DPRK right now, as the shortage of women in China creates a strong demand for "wives", who essentially become sex slave laborer breeders. And those elements influence policy to maintain DPRK.

Also a failed DPRK would also represent a disaster of refugees crossing into China.

Also, the US makes a great deal of money selling weapons to the region. And becoming heavily involved in a war there would be costly, so not a lot of motivation to change the status quo from our side either.

All of this doesn't mean the war won't get "hot" again. Events can "run away" from anyone's control. Their military has huge numbers and despite it's low tech could do a lot of damage before being pushed back north. The human toll would be staggering. And DPRK might not mind cutting down the number of mouths to feed. Though I think they know that bombing sorties would target much of the elite and their lifestyle so they won't take action solely for that reason.

So in the end, DPRK just sits, and rots. And Hell on Earth is shamefully allowed to continue for about 24 million people.

Looks like Kim Il's box-of-twinkies-a-day son is carrying on the family tradition of using threats and empty rhetoric to maintain their isolation from the rest of the universe.

They are like one of those little yippee dogs, all bark - no bite !

Remove DMZ! Simple really. If you want peace in Korea this is the only way this can happen! You have families on each side of this fence. In truth we could not stop North Korea if we wanted to. Trying to starve the North doesn't make since either. Germany and Vietnam are good examples of their DMZs being removed. We buy a lot of products from Vietnam. Remember we are ones that placed that DMZ in the first place. If some brain dead tells me that UN put Korea DMZ in. Then why do we have over fifty thousand troops guarding it. For crying out loud the Korea war is over. So why are we trying to start another. Even the media is telling half truths. My question to the Media is why?

Rontron:

But we're stronger, militarily. Our planes, carriers, tanks, drones, etc are much better than theirs. They may have numbers but we have technology. and eventually he 'numbers' are going to get tired of being used as 'cannon fodder' (do we even still use cannons?)

Enzo & Broken Arrow are right, if they let Gen. McArthur do what he wanted, we wouldn't be dealing with this today!

More DIARRHEA of the mouth. If North Korea starts a war, they will be reduced to ashes and the nuclear fallout will drift over China.

They know it, China knows it, South Korea knows it and the U.S. knows it. Time for China to put a muzzle on its Chihuahua.

Here is a partial list of North Korean provocations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_border_incidents_involving_North_Korea

These guys have been at this stuff since before most of you were born. They play brinkmanship every day of their lives and depend very heavily on South Koreans, Americans and Japanese diplomats and generals to realize that North Korea has all the aces and any mis-step on our part will result in some pretty dire consequences. This is exactly how they sunk a South Korean Navy state-of-the-art anti-submarine warfare corvette, Cheonan, without being detected.

We knew the North Koreans did it. We even recovered parts of the torpedo that were made in North Korea. And we knew how they did it --- a North Korean advanced Kilo-class sub lay in the bottom of the Yellow Sea in position, perhaps for weeks, until a target passed near. It then fired a spread of torpedoes. The first chance the corvette had was the torpedoes were fired and they had maybe 20-30 seconds to react. They never even saw the torpedoes before they hit.

We did not respond militarily because to do so would have caused the immediate annihilation of the entire Seoul-Inchon Corridor and all forward-deployed South Korean and American troops within about 15 minutes. We can rattle sabers all day long, but the Koreans know that they have literally thousands of heavy mortars, guided and unguided missiles and rockets, artillery, and SPGs all along the DMZ. They are in "peek and shoot" tunnels and caves that are virtually immune to air attack. All the weapo0ns are pre-surveyed and many use indirect fire (that is, they are dug into the back sides of mountains and come out to fire over the mountain from hidden positions.)

What would dissappear would be about 40% of South Korea's population and industry and its financial and political capital along with its major port, several US airbases, around 80,000 RoK troops and 28,000 US troops. There would be very little to no opportunity for any counter-fire. Survivors among the military would be disorganized and not combat-effective (all it takes is about 30-40% casualties to make a unit non-combat-effective.) Most likely, at the same time, North Korean agents-in-place and commandos would hit military favcilities, power substations and longlines.and coimmunications facilities along with key bridges and tunnels. This is what they threaten with. This is what they know they we will not risk.

But the North Koreans are not doing this to intimidate the US or South Korea. They do these things primarily to keep their own people in line, especially when there have been changes in leadership, either political or military. When the order goes down to do something like sink the RoKN corvette, there are people watching eveyone in the chain-of-command from the very top to the very bottom. Anyone who hesitates or fails to immediately do what is expected goes to the camps along with his entire family. You don't come back from the camps.

In this change of leadership, it seems that people who watch these things are expecting a very big show. Act I was to be the launch of the satellite, which embarrassingly fizzled. So now the emphasis shifts to the next acts to be provocative and dramatic enough to distract any internal dissent from the missile failure. They have already drilled a new tunnel at their nuclear test site. Now that tunnel has been refilled with dirt, usually somethat happens up to 3 weeks before a nuclear test shot. So you can expect a nuclear test any day now.

But after that is likely to be a severe military provocation --- if their history is a guide, it will be significantly bigger than the sinking of the RoKN corvette. No one has ever been able to predict these things. If you look back at the list of incidents, they have been so diverse that there really was no way to predict them.

I was a North Korean intelligence analyst at the Far Eastern Watch Center at 5th AF. I was pulled from Vietnam as a replacement for those fired after the capture of the Pueblo. I was very deeply involved when the North Koreans shot down an American EC-121 some 90nm into the Sea of Japan. I had ditty-bop friends on that aircraft. And I got watch as CINCPACFLT and 5th AF commanders and battle staffs tried, without success, to formulate a possible response to the EC-121 shootdown. And they could come up with nothing. There was simply no way to respond militarily without South Korea being destroyed in the process. I watched full colonels cry out of frustration.

This is a bad situation and has been bad ever since the Armistice. But anyone who thinks that the North Koreans are crazy or stupid is simply too poorly informed to even deserve an opinion. This is a serious game that they play, with every move thought out ahead of time. And things could suddenly worsen, especially if young Kim finds himself losing even a little control of the process. Kim would send out the order for a general attack on the South before he would relinquish power willingly and everyone knows it.

And for those who think China is behind them. Wrongo Bucko. The Chinese have everything to lose and absolutely nothing to gain from North Korean craziness and they know it. But they are just as helpless in muzzling North Korea as we are with muzzling our own rogue state, Israel. (Remember the USS Liberty.)

And as both North Korean and Iran well know, the US military is worn out from ten years of continuous deployments. The equipment is "past date" and due for refurbishment or replacement, but budget cuts will draw that process out for decades. The men are bone tired and sick of the constant deployments and the toll taken on their personal lives and their families. And most of all the American public is tired of fighting wars on the national credit card. With no draft, it would take 7-10 years to reinstitute the cadre system that allowed our military to be rapidly expanded as it was for WWII.

So, threaten all the bombing and spanking and lesson-teaching you want. It is easy to make idle threats from the safety of your computer screen. But try to convince the survivors of the Cheonan that the North Koreans make idle threats. The US is a paper tiger when it comes to North Korea. We simply cannot afford an all-out confrontation and everyone who has ever touched that particular Tar Baby knows well that it is extremely difficult to come away and impossible to come away clean.

Amanda
Our Military is scattered all over and we couldn't get enough troops and equipment into position in a timely manner to do any good, it took us months just to get materiel into Iraq, besides we are Trillions in debt now, who wants to sacrifice Billions more for an uncertain outcome. A nuclear response would be cheaper but then we'd have to deal with China and Russia and the Fallout. No small matter.

If any war breaks out in the Koreas Wall Street will self destruct and wreck the US economy, just look at what has happened in the past year with relatively minor problems created in Europe and the Arab nations. Congress is too divided and swayed by World opinion to act in a timely manner and the UN is a bungling bureaucracy.

Perhaps we can simply wait out the old line bureaucracy in NK and hope the next generation will be more conducive to a peacefull solution.

Chris...firsthand knowledge like yours is the most credible and helps make one realize the complexity and frustration in dealing with a country like NK. Kneejerk reactions have no place in forming policy. Hopefully those charged with charting possible moves by the US and allies will use careful intelligence and look for the most effective response without all-out war.

Will the Watcher,

After you get done kicking your neighbor's rear up and down the street, I would imagine they would have no qualms about coming back with a gun, shooting you, and then turning your house into ashes. Please research the NKPA a little before spewing off at the mouth. The US in a war with North Korea is a terrible idea at this point.

N. Korean Jerk!

IndianaEngineer, have you been to Korea? There is NEVER a "right time" for War. There is only the worst possible moment. However, North Korea knows 2 things:

1. We lost in Vietnam because we had a gutless leader (LBJ)

2. If they are going to start something, they better do it while the a$$ kisser is still in office.

Knowing these two things, plus what is going on in Iran, I would think that by October they will either put up or shut up.

Vietnam killed President Johnson, but was lied to also by Gen Westmoreland. If President Kennedy had not been killed I don't think we would of been drawn into a 10 year war with N Vietnam. Vietnam should of been given independence after WWII. The USA failed at that backing France after the North asked for US help. We drove them to the USSR & China. Vietnam is doing good with a partial communist government. N Korea is of a different nature. They want the resourcesthe South has & doesn't know how to get it other then war. They have brainwashed their children & made Gods out of Kim & his son. Just how much the North's Army will allow the new leadership to rule one way or another is anybodies guess. He alone does not call the shots, it is the old guard doing it to keep their meat & potatoes on their plate. Civilians are kept in fear 24/7 or else their 3rd generationof relatives are imprisoned. More or less the North is on their own since the cold war froze & the North lost resourcesgiven to them by the USSR & Red China. The Great Wall of China should of been built along the N Korean boundary, this is where the trouble is for China. China does not want millions of Koreans running to their side over flooding with refugees. The North Koreans know this & is practically holding China with extortion. N Korea at will, allow such a thing to happen to help drag in China to a war with the S Koreans & US. Provocations are going to happen with this new kid on the block in North Korea being pushed by the old guard in power. The Old Guard is these 60 - 80 year old Generals wearing at least 60 medals on thier chest because it makes them look good to the brain washed populace. This is who is holding power in the North. War is bound to happen & it is what the North teaches it's people. When we all read about an event such as a large department store blown up with hundreds of S Koreans killed, it won't be guess work at who done it. Proving it is another matter. This is just one of the triggers the North will pull out of their hat. I would not expect the North to do an all out invasion for they know that it is a suicide move for sure. This would not drag in China to their invasion. Terrorism is where the North is going. How far & how much is unknown until the other side decides what to do. Proof is everything. This is why the S Korean ship that was blown up had to be inspected by many big shots of other governments, especially the USA. The peach fuzz leader of the North has something to prove to the world & the USA. One day or event might be the last for the North. They are bound to making the wrong move depending on how those in the Old Guard disagree with each other.

South Korea shouldn't have to live in fear. It is obvious to any person with common sense that sooner or later, North Korea is going act and then what. They think we are afraid to help the South Koreans because of China. If North Korea provokes this attack, we have every right to help the South. The world will criticize as always, but it would be the right thing to do.

WTF is wrong w/this family?

You all may think that, because it hasn't happened, it may never happen. I'd be willing to bet that it just might after all....maybe not this time, but I wouldn't put it past them.

BTW...Will makes a good point. It gets tiring listening to the neighborhood bully being such an ass with his constant threats; it would be great if someone would kick his ass.

We should also remember that there are people that have just been threatened...and whether we believe it or not, those people live in constant fear. I can't even comprehend what that must be like.

UNDERSTAND! North Korean leaders don't want to live in underground caves the rest of their lives. Let them bluff and bluster and wither on the vine. Like naughty, screaming children, ignore them and they will shut up. They have the money to put on these shows. They have the money to make atomic bombs and blow up their missiles. So let them starve and beg Russia and China. If those two don't want to help them, let them all dry up and blow away. They certainly don't have the money to modernize and maintain their military. Remember the U.S. has tactical nuclear weapons aimed at North Korea. One serious misstep, the kung Fu kid and his cohorts will be watching reruns of Beverly Hillbillies underground for the rest of their lives and THEY KNOW IT!

But we're stronger, militarily. Our planes, carriers, tanks, drones, etc are much better than theirs. They may have numbers but we have technology. and eventually he 'numbers' are going to get tired of being used as 'cannon fodder' (do we even still use cannons?)

Yes ... and no. We have the military technology, yes. But the majority of it is elsewhere and we don't really have the money to make more of it to send to Korea.

However, if you want to see what numbers can do against technology, just look back about 40 years. We had the technological advantage in Vietnam too.

Beth look up nuclear tactical weapons. Chris appreciate your input but if Russia had nuclear tactical weapons on the beaches in the early 60's in Cuba to stop an American Invasion. I am sure that in the last 50 years the U.S. has in place a great deal of ability to stop NK stone call before they launch anything. They are monitored 24/7 and the winds blow from west to east. China doesn't want fall out on its shores.

North Korea is strongly direct commanded. No orders nothing is done and innovation is discouraged. I am sure that high U.S./S.K. technology will interrupt any command structure and a few tactical weapons will discourage any kind of cross border invasion.

Why do you think that Russia and China refused to help the starving North Koreans?

Beth look up nuclear tactical weapons.

I know exactly what nuclear tactical weapons are. I also don't want to start a nuclear war, do you? I'm pretty sure the South Koreans don't want us to either.

Nuclear Tactical Weapons are for localized use. Would you rather see North Korean troops cross the DMZ or have their three main entry ways through the mountains be destroyed and the areas that North Korea could launch the big missiles towards South Korea, Japan, Australia and the U.S. not be destroyed.

You really don't understand the North Korean mentality. Look at them puffed up with medals and uniforms, driving luxury cars, living in palatial estates, believing they have the adulation of the masses. Now turn the tables on them which is what Obama and Hilary should be doing instead of playing footsy and bribing them with food and energy.

I like Teddy Roosevelt. Talk softly and carry a big stick. Make a documentary and shove it in their faces at the meeting. 'LOOK YOU BASTARDS!" One problem and you will be animals living in caves. Then show them what their favorite palaces, farms and military installations will look 15 minutes after they attack South Korea.

DO YOU WANT TO LIVE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE UNDERGROUND?

Tactical means limited atomic bombs of very small yield that will destroy within a small radius and make the area uninhabitable. Just read what the U.S. has in South Korea. It is out there. They are there in South Korea for a reason. The South Koreans don't have the manpower, but the North Koreans have to go through three passes to invade South Korea.

Use simple logic. Show the same movie to Russia and China. Remember the winds blow west to east.

The fallout will hit China first. Talking with these despicable people is going to get you nowhere. I have to remind you of Cuba, Iran, certain African and Asian nations?

Try leaving your ivory castle and come down to earth. The world is not pretty. Remember Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Stalin and about a 100 more? There will always be more of them and they will not be talked to. The only thing they know is force. Israel was happy with the 1948 U.N. Treaty that gave them Negev desert and the Arabs wanted to kill every Jew in the Middle East.

So much for our high hopes of spoiled brat being able to be reasoned with. Unless of course, he is just doing this to impress the real powers behind the throne.

Let's see: According to Wiki, the GDP of North Korea was $28 billion in 2009. That is less than an eighth that of Hong Kong, a much smaller and less populous state. The GDP on the other hand for South Korea was 1.16 TRILLION in 2011. Does this snot-nosed kid really want to turn the south into the economic basket case that his country is?

Rontron: Your assessment of military strength between North Korean and U.S. troops seems to ignore totally that South Korean troop strength is 650,000 or roughly half that of North Korea, again according to Wiki, and they have another 3.2 MILLION reserves. These would be defending their own soil and aforementioned economic prosperity. The south is also undoubtedly better equipped than the north. I don't think the brat wins this one with or without our troops. Our troops are merely there as a buffer keeping the sworn enemies from going to town on each other.

China and the US enjoy an unprecedented amount of trade and economic fortification that would make conflict between the two nations inadvisable. Simpy put--it's not going to happen.

Normally, I would agree with this. But I would also point out that it does not help when the President of the United States in a home political based statement to help get a re-election starts antagonizing the Chinese by announcing to place 2500 more marines on their backdoor to counter their supposed aggression. And does this while on a tour of the South Pacific.

PS> Excelent post, Chris-749391

Don't believe for a second that that "Little Fat Blow Hard" is running the country! He's nothing but a puppet. Heck, he probably didn't even know the threats were made until someone told him to turn on the TV.

China is the Biggest Friend/Ally of All Rogue Nations in world?

Peteri111. Nah. Thats USA's job.

Remove DMZ! Simple really. If you want peace in Korea this is the only way this can happen! You have families on each side of this fence. In truth we could not stop North Korea if we wanted to. Trying to starve the North doesn't make since either. Germany and Vietnam are good examples of their DMZs being removed. We buy a lot of products from Vietnam. Remember we are ones that placed that DMZ in the first place. If some brain dead tells me that UN put Korea DMZ in. Then why do we have over fifty thousand troops guarding it. For crying out loud the Korea war is over. So why are we trying to start another. Even the media is telling half truths. My question to the Media is why?

Lyle - What on earth are you talking about?! The DMZs were removed in Viet Nam and Germany AFTER one of the governments fell! (Respectively, South Viet Nam and East Germany).

"We" are not starving North Korea. North Korea is starving North Korea. Why field a million man army and build missiles and not feed your own people?

Also, the Korean War is not over. There has never been a peace treaty.

Make North Korea "China's Problem"...if the rest of the world will hold China responsible for North Korean bad behavior (by reducing trade with China) things will change!

North Korea's leaders don't care about food aid because they never go hungry their people do. In a military police state like N.K. the people always suffer and die first....... China has to mussel this rabid dog not us. We should bring our troops home now, the damn wars been over for SIXTY years.

peteri111

the biggest rogue nation is israel and US is the sole supporter and financer.

Henrich von Dorf : There wouldn't be an Israel had the Germans and Austrians not tried to "solve the Jewish problem".

Obviously The Germans and Austrians had failed to solve the "problem".

I thinking you're just engaging in hyperbole and are not a genocidal psychopath.

I really wonder just how "brain washed" North Korea's people really are.... if the Capitol was wiped out, would everyone else do a victory dance and thank their gods for ridding them of that evil? Or is the brainwashing so ingrained that they would actually mourn the loss of the leaders that have kept them starving for so long?

If the leaders died and food poured in, I'm sure there would be a lot of dancing, or eating.

Brokinarrow: I suspect the rural north is even more brainwashed than the cities. Bet none of them have internet connections, just state-run TV.

That's the thing with wars--they don't end until someone wins. The Armistice has led to generations of mistrust and military tension. Cut all Western support to NK (assuming there's any left) and wait for them to be so desperate they attack, then finish them off. Massive loss of life, I know, but at least Korea can rebuild from the ashes instead of this endless brink-of-war existence.

NorthKorea itself is a beautiful country. The political elite over there doesnt realy make it a paradise though. Still the North Korean people love their children as much as the South Korean parents love theirs.

North Korea: Great place to visit wbut wouldn't want to live there, you say? Other countries have managed to start revolutions from within. Even the former "monolitic" Soviet Union that crumbled when its ordinary citizens that you so sentimentally conjure up wised up that the big guys were taking all the goodies and with assistance from an ecomomic problem that came home to roost in Russia, are now or at least in 1991 freer than before. The North Koreans? It's a small country and I'm sure their punishments are as strict as that of Uncloe Joe Stalin, but somehoiw they just can't seem to do anything about their own government. Look at Syria, Egympt, Libya, to name a few recent examples. Even Iran, where in the last 12 months ordinary citizens have tried to topple a totally suffocating regime and succeded to various degrees. In t he end, the harsh judgment that you deserve the government you get could very well be true of North Korea. In a so-called democracy or republic like the U.S. the majority rules, and like it or not, the majority kinda sorta with the help of th e electyoral college decides what kind of government we will have. In that case, the majroity gets the government they deserve, n ot the minority. But at least there's another election cycle down theroad in America which has kept us reasonabley stable...i.e. there is hope of topplingn the bad presidents and Congresses we have had such as Bush 2 to name only one recent example.

North Korea is China's problem. Let them deal with the little crack pot nation doing nuclear tests on their border.

That will only happen if they try to make good on their threats. Then we'll dust the ashes off what's left of their asses. No wiping necessary..

They will then become the world's largest time share.

@Lil' Debbie,

You do know that you know nothing about the former Soviet Union. Your assertions about it's downfall and the perceptions of most of its citizens about their government, are all wrong.

Remove DMZ! Simple really. If you want peace in Korea this is the only way this can happen! You have families on each side of this fence. In truth we could not stop North Korea if we wanted to. Trying to starve the North doesn't make since either. Germany and Vietnam are good examples of their DMZs being removed. We buy a lot of products from Vietnam. Remember we are ones that placed that DMZ in the first place. If some brain dead tells me that UN put Korea DMZ in. Then why do we have over fifty thousand troops guarding it. For crying out loud the Korea war is over. So why are we trying to start another. Even the media is telling half truths. My question to the Media is why?

@ mcgrinder

If the N. korean parents had an intelligent clue as to how horrible their country is; they would stop procreating and stop the madness.

This is why in America you see such a large push against abortion - the leaders and financers know with certainty that with an aging population - if we do not start a population boom the current working generation will have nothing - our economy will completely tank under the pressure of past generations. This is a fact - it is disgusting what the leaders of countries will do to humanity to keep wealth and gold pouring into their hands.

If the leaders died and food poured in, I'm sure there would be a lot of dancing, or eating.

Sort of what we were told would happen when we invaded Iraq.

But we lied to the Iraqi's, twice actually. Both Bushes.

If I were them I wouldn't trust us.

Nor do you... as usual.

Sure they do, they are the Ted Nugents of the world all mouth and nothing............. nothing at all to back it up with. Got gun, so gun=courage. LOL! Problem is those cowards would be the first ones running to Canada if war broke out and, and, and, golly gee we had to reinstate conscription. My personal opinion is I think we should have a draft with NO deferments , no pimply butts, no dirty diapers can get you out of, but that is just my opinion, and is not meant to reflect the cowardly Republican chicken hawk opinion.

tom, republicans are as hypocritical as anyone. "we want the government to stay out of our lives, cept for the things WE think they should make rules for like abortion!!"

Hatr, Republicans don't care if you want to KILL YOUR KIDS, as long as we don't have to pay for it.

when has obama ever released any letter of apology. he releases the seals instead, stop living in your bubble!

The chest-beating Repugs are all mouth and no action, just creating all this inflammatory hate talk and relying on some deluded halfwit @!$%# like Ted Nugent or another certifiable crazy to carry out their "orders," or should I say, "wishes" by taking the risks and doing the violence themseles. Such talk results in assassinations, or maybe you blabbers missed too muchhistory class to learn recent U.S. history. Intemperate talk comes back to haunt us all in ways you will never understand with your underdevloped minds and disconnected tongues running rampant without any (shrivelled) brain cells you may have left.

oomy, never has that been part of your proposals until the recent birth control debate. roe VS wade wasn't about who had to pay for the abortion. the 2 idiots who voted your comment up are just as ignorant as you apparently about that.

Hey Tom, name ONE apology. I DARE you.

Remove DMZ! Simple really. If you want peace in Korea this is the only way this can happen! You have families on each side of this fence. In truth we could not stop North Korea if we wanted to. Trying to starve the North doesn't make since either. Germany and Vietnam are good examples of their DMZs being removed. We buy a lot of products from Vietnam. Remember we are ones that placed that DMZ in the first place. If some brain dead tells me that UN put Korea DMZ in. Then why do we have over fifty thousand troops guarding it. For crying out loud the Korea war is over. So why are we trying to start another. Even the media is telling half truths. My question to the Media is why?

Because one of the most evil and brutal regimes that has ever existed resides in North Korea, Lyle.

Here we go w/the political bitching again.

Don't wanna hear anymore about Nugent..IGNORE HIM...and certainly don't want to hear about abortion. This article is not about that.

Lyle...I don't know if we are trying to start a war...personally, I would like to know that, if our country went the way of some of these have, there is someone out there that would stand up for us. (PLEASE...all you haters, don't start about the woes of our system) If I saw you being beaten I would do my best to help you. That's called being HUMAN. I am glad this country does that.

Do any of you really make your political choices and decissions based for/against what a old bad rock singer has to say? Really? God help us all!

The armistice was set in 1953. No Korean desk job for you, Einstein.

Another un=paid for war by hard liners? No thanks.

Have to agree with Lib (mind you I am a registered Republican). The last thing our country needs is another war. If we spent less money on putting our boots into other people's business, we'd be a lot better off.

Amen to that, Brokinarrow. Tired of being the policeman to the world, although I am a huge proponent of a strong military. What if we could spend just 1% of the $$ we've shelled out on wars and international "policing" in the last 12 years on something like cancer research or building jobs in the public & private spaceflight industries (or energy, auto, construction, teaching, whatever your favorite job-generating platform)?

Time for S. Korea to grow a pair, stand up for itself, and stop kow-towing to the North.

It would be more cost effective to finish a justified war (Afghanistan) before starting another war on trumped up charges (Iraq) then trying to go back where things have gotten worse (Afghanistan).

The last thing our country needs is another war.

Because we can be sure it will be paid for by another tax cut. Just like the last two.

Because we can be sure it will be paid for by another tax cut. Just like the last two.

Yeah, that never made sense to me.

The only reason the TPTB are iching for war with Iran and North Korea is that they are two of the 5 countries that don't have a Rothschild controlled bank in the country. The others are Libya, Afganistan and the Sudan.

Don't you see a pattern here.

worn out, so we're back to the old world-wide Jewish banker's conspiracy are we? The Protocols of the Elders of Zion that you so faithfully andn probably unwittingly mouth was proven to be a fake document, more than a lifetime ago but was very useful to anti-Semites in Russia andn Germany, also France and U.S. and obviously has still deluded some "low information voters" who are breathing today. No, it's not the Rothschilds it's communism, to bring you up to the late 20th century and now it's terrorissm and Islamic fundamentalist jihadism if you will. God, I'll be glaad when these ancient oild arteriosclerotic paranoids loosen their death grip on socieety. Go pick up trash on the highways or teach Sunday School, if you can't keep up with the times. It's more constructive.

They don't have micro nukes. They're still trying to figure out how to get a nuclear weapon small enough to fit on a missle.

What happened to the 20 suitcase nukes the Russians can't account for?

And who would he be replaced with? The people will only accept a leader with Kim blood, and his brothers are complete @!$%#ing morons. Say what you will about Pudgy, at least the kid can count to ten without using both hands. That's more than can be said of the rest of his family.

Those two countries may well be called dangerous, but the USA itself is the one waging the wars. Bombing and occupying and all.

N.Korea doesn't need to use nuclear weapons to cause devastation in South Korea. They have thousands of conventional artillery sites all within range of Seoul, the capitol of the South. A massive simultaneous barrage from all those guns, hidden in caves and mountains, would destroy the government and the economy of S. Korea.

Robert, do you think that when the shelling begins nobody will notice? I think our Air Force is well aware of that threat, and have plans to neutralize it immediately. Our military, and the South Korean military are not ignorant of what North Korea has in numbers and in weapons. American and South Korean troops have trained together for many years to repel any North Korean attack. The "Human wave" attacks conducted by the North Korean and the PLA, the first time around, didn't work and it won't work today. America itself is the superior military force in Asia, made so by our air and naval presence. Granted, when the North Koreans first attacked there appeared to be no way to stop them because America was unprepared, giving our attention to Europe. That isn't the case today, we don't have to worry about a Soviet attack into Western Europe, we'll be able to concentrate fully on any North Korean move South. And, concentrate fully on any PLA backup support for North Korea. Anyway, I think North Korea, if it attacks, will stand alone because the PRC is a emerging economic power in the world, the last thing the PRC leaders want is to be dragged into a war with America over North Korea. A war, by the way, that they would surely lose. And, lol, they know it, and, they also have to keep an eye on the "Bear." There's no love lost between the Russian Federation and the PRC. As far as the Communist Chinese leaders are concerned the Russian Federation, simply because it exists now, was and is a traitor to the cause of World Communism. Actually, the PRC is in a bind because if a war begins with America the Bear will move into China and the Nationalist Chinese will invade the mainland. Then, there's North Vietnam. Lol, those two have fought border skirmishes and have a historical dislike for each other. What is it today, North Vietnam or just plain Vietnam? Whatever, doesn't matter when it comes to China.

BTW, Obama got Osama, in case you forgot.

Lib&Proud, there is where you are wrong. Obama didn't do a thing, it was our military personnel. Get your head out of his rear and give credit where credit is due. I am sure Obama didn't leave the comforts of DC.

If the mission had failed, you would be the first one screaming for Obamas head.

Actually Starbuck that is not correct, if the mission had failed, non of us would have known about it. The Government does not want a failed mission to be the top news story of the day.

Our government ca't keep a photo of a pair of severed legs out of the news...

Yes to think he crawled out from under his rock,just so his follower's,would know,now is the time to pack,get the passports and get the hell out of Dodge.Idiot!!!!

Meh, it's just saber rattling. the DPRK's only claim to legitimacy comes from its military, so naturally they have to make these crazy statements from time to time.

Smart idea! You'll have to ask the Russians for one of their nukes though, we don't make them that big.

Our collection goes all the way to 100Meg.

Yeah......I don't think they have the guts to do anything

----I dare them to try something ------------

It's WWE! The World Wildlife Federation sued the pants off the wrestling fools, and they won.

All Rogue Nations are safe with Chinese Veto Protection.

We did?

In the event of a NK attack, US military hardware and personnels stationed in SK, together with those at bases in Japan, Okinawa and Guam will be reduced to ashes. NK has enough missiles to strike back.

If US and SK exercise rerstraint and are less provocative as evidenced by countless of joint military exercises at NK land and sea borders and the implementation of sanctions, NK will reciprocate and not belligerent and defiant as she is now. Without the tacit approval of China, NK will not initiate attack bar fight back in self-defense. The current NK war cries is merely a rhetoric to wade off SK provocation.