How do you know? Have you been to China?

wasteoftime, your name suits you well. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. What the Chinese government thinks and believes are very, very different from the things the average Chinese citizen think about. Take your racism elsewhere.

And by the way, you also clearly have no idea how big of an impact ancient Chinese history has had on the rest of the world. "Chinese think China is the center of the world....where all things began.....ONLY Chinese belive this!" Actually a lot of things did begin there, not "all things", but A LOT of things, and they are absolutely not the only ones to believe so. But clearly you have taken college courses on such studies and have deducted your opinions on the facts learned therein. Mhm.

China has territorial disputes with the Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan across the South China Sea....

At least we have good relations with both Canada and Mexico.

The Taiwan People ARE Chinese........Taiwan Leadership is exiled Chinese Nationalists. Taiwan's Official name is Republic Of China (ROC). They Governed Parts of Mainland china from 1912 until 1949. When the Japanese surrendered they gave back Taiwan ( Called Formosa) to the ROC. The ROC officially held the United Nations Seat for all of CHINA until 1971 when the PRC ( Peoples republic of China) was finally recognized as the Governing Body of Mainland China. In the 80's and early 90's Taiwan became a Multi-party Democracy and has built a growing economy (ranked 19th) and due to its technological advancements is an important part of the Global Economy. The PRC claims Taiwan as under its sovereignty as part of China proper and realistically, Since the japanese returned control to China and the ROC lost its war with the communists evacuating the mainland for Taiwan and in the process taking with them many national treasures and the countries gold reserves along with 2 million of the Elite Business and Political figures who were instrumental in the governing of China.

Officially that Civil War is still going on and Only the intervention of the USA and its allies has kept that war from spilling onto Taiwan's shores. From an Economic standpoint, China gaining Taiwans resources would be a Bad thing for the American Economy. Since China took HONG KONG they have grown into an Economic Powerhouse and adding Taiwan would likely tip the scales enough that in a few years the Chinese YEN may be what the world economy would become based on...This would undermine the USA to the point of Financial Ruin and would likely be considered an Economic Declaration of War by the USA.

That would of course be BAD for everyone. Still, The Chinese have very valid points and while I am no fan of communism or China's humanitarian record, perhaps you now understand More than you did about WHY China does not trust the West and why they are so adamant to get Taiwan back into the fold!!

The real question here is China has been suddenly working harder on their war machines, the navy in particular.

It appears that any country can claim just about anything, but what's clearly needed is an international mechanism to settle claims once and for all time.

Perhaps China should use their foreign reserves to 'buy out' the claims of other countries - like the United States 'bought' the Louisiana Purchase from France and Alaska from Russia.

So it is not good for America to have the war games, but it is o.k. for china and russia to have them. Please America wake up and stop buying the crap from them, even if we have to pay a bit more for what we buy, this hopefully will bring jobs back to our country.

@wasteoftime... well if so then maybe our government and China's government should share toys. Since our government is the "big bully" of the western hemisphere.

The real question here is China has been suddenly working harder on their war machines, the navy in particular.

The really real question is why does the US spend over $600 BILLION more on military and war machines than China, who is number two in military spending globally ?

They have doubled their spending in the last 5 years, as well as the other 3 top spenders in the world. Could this be in response to our governments obnoxious and wasteful overspending increase annually ?

WASTEOF TIME you need to read some history about the U.S. Phillipine war!

China has to eat. They need energy to meet the new generation of educated working urbanites who dream is to live like Americans. Problem population and culture. Conventional war in Asia could solve many of its problems in a low key people consuming adventure. Reducing global population levels can only help with these problems. Asian war could be a political necessity for Asian governments to survive with the changing global economic demands.

We hold many cards but the simple truth is our life style is unsustainable even for us, our Asian allies and Europe and to add 1.3 billion China people to that list is global suicide anyway. I guess my simple conclusion is we could change our economic statagies and support the existing populations or we can fight to reduce populations through the glory of war. We have interesting choices ahead. I do not plan on wasting my family fighting another corporate driven war. My guess is we will need to harvest the Oceans and develop space resources with creating new artifical habitats for billions of people in near space. The big question is do we have time.

Todd-4117082

"They Governed Parts of Mainland china from 1912 until 1949"

No, the nationalists government ruled entire China, include Taiwan and Tibet during this period. The GMT government represented China even communists who fought nationalists recognize the fact.

Those in power ie money will never allow the drastic change needed not in their interest. There will have to be massive wars before and if anyone changes.

So basically what you're saying is that China is now just like we are: arrogant and thinking they have the best system in the world. How dare they.

Actually in this case, China is the bully. It has been known that the Chinese has been poaching in the area all of the live sharks, giant clams and the coral. Those are protected marine species by the Philippine govt. and the International Convention of endangered species of flora and fauna. They do not have the right to be in the waters so close to the Philippine shores. When the Chinese govt. was asked about this and the fisherman who did this they actually took their fisherman's side. Anybody would see this as a threat. The only stupid people are those who think the US should not get involved. The Philippines is a small country but in a very strategic location.

The Chinese should be nervous, what with the stellar record the Americans and Filipinos posted against the Japanese in 1941. Does the name Bataan mean anything to ya?

What about Bataan? MacArthur returned and cleaned house. Would of been sooner if not for Pearl Harbour. I think the US Navy may have learned a few lessons since then.

Besides they are training to retake the position. Whats that tell ya?

The Philippines was once ruled by Spain. If you look at some of the old charts from 1932 and even before, they will say that those waters belonged to the Philippines when they gained their independence. The Chinese have still yet to learn that everything doesn't belong to them.

More like Charlie in the chocolate factory with sudden world power after thousands of years of feudalism and general hardship... Is it already too far past the faces of real attempted world domination that this is what it looks like now? I'll give you a hint to one of them, he had an ugly little mustache and it isn't Charlie Chaplin. Ohh yeah, THAT'S what happens when a country wants to take over the world.

I love my country and I don't agree with many things in China, i.e. their GOVERNMENT, but the propaganda of them "aiming for world domination" is getting really out of hand, if you really knew what you were talking about and didn't just get your information from American media then that kind of alarmist claim might be more valid.

It's really shameful how we've barely pulled out of everything we did to blacks just to suddenly become severely racist against anyone of Chinese culture. It's no wonder so many citizens of the rest of the world are laughing at us nowadays.

My belief is that, based on this country's history of wars, we will be at war with China somewhere between 2017 and 2021. China has a pressing need for cheap oil and coal resources. More important, China has an extreme population imbalance in terms of young males which they will have to put to use somewhere if they wish to avoid major social breakdown on their soil.

Plot China's moves on a global map. The Panama Canal is run by a Chinese management company, which can very quickly convert to a strategic military asset. China is becoming an active player in Venezuelan oil. China is now becoming a major player in the Caribbean, with "investments" in Dominica, Trinidad/Tobago, Antigua/Barbuda, the Bahamas, Grenada, and Jamaica; almost all are banking havens, which means China should expect very generous treatment as far as the movement of money is concerned. China has already been very active in the Cape Verde Islands for years and is basically the only game in town for Angolan oil; it's also no accident that Cape Verde is equi-distant from the Panama Canal and Angola. Every one of these moves serves two purposes: to cut off the US from Angolan and possibly Brazilian oil in the south Atlantic along with encircling this country's greatest vulnerability, the US eastern seaboard; Washington is too close to the water and could be taken quickly by someone who has a good gameplan.

One thing I highly recommend regarding China is becoming familiar with the Hukuo caste system; understand it well and you understand why China has a major source of civil amd social unrest that it will have to put to use through war. The basics: males age 20 and under outnumber females of the same age by 32 million and China is in the midst of a mass population migration of mostly young males from rural areas to urban areas. They're moving to find economic opportunities and female opportunities, only to find neither. Hukuo also moves with them. A very basic nutshell of Hukuo: your birthplace determines your rights and privileges in Chinese society, and it stays with you for the rest of your life; an urban birthplace entitles you and your children to free health care and education while a rural birthplace entitles you to pay the whole nut out of your own pocket. You have the potential for millions of young men with no stake in society. Send them into combat with everything to gain and no other option than to fight and they will fight like f*cks; this makes them very dangerous.

just to suddenly become severely racist against anyone of Chinese culture.

When did "Chinese" become a race? Better come up with a new PC buzz word because that one doesn't work for nationalities.

When did "Chinese" become a race? Better come up with a new PC buzz word because that one doesn't work for nationalities.

Tell a Chinese person and a Japanese person that they are the same race and see the reaction.

Tell a Chinese person and a Japanese person that they are the same race and see the reaction.

Perception does not change reality.

It depends on whose reality and perception we're speaking of I guess.

A Japanese and Chinese person would argue that there is distinct physical differences in the shape of their eyes, which would constitute a different race.

I can't tell the difference personally, which in my opinion is my reality, in theirs it would be perception and maybe even racism, LOL.

A Japanese and Chinese person would argue that there is distinct physical differences in the shape of their eyes, which would constitute a different race.

Eye shape alone does not determine race. There are 3 races or subspecies of humans. Europid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. Anything else is in the perception of the individual.

See arguesforsport, I should have paid closer attention to your screen name, but LOL means I was joking or attempting to have fun.

I was basing my argument on the Websters dictionary definition of race, not the anthropolgical definition.

Websters says - 2a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics

So my point was valid based on that definition since according to Japanese and Chinese they have different characteristics and different nations.

rodentwarrior

If your 'this country' means US, it is sufficient to back your prediction of war with China in near future. But the causes of war will have nothing to do with what China needs and how it does to feed its appetite for natural resources. China will not start a war with US while US is a habitual warmonger has never missed any chance to use force as the first resort to solve its own problems.

Websters says - 2a: a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b: a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics

So my point was valid based on that definition since according to Japanese and Chinese they have different characteristics and different nations.

Must be nice to decide what you meant after the fact, LOL. (Now that's a joke too, right?)

Absolutely, very good indeed.

The prospect of a China dominated world feels me with disgust and apprehension. The avarice of our corporate overlords is causing the transfer of massive amounts of technology to China. They don't have to invest much in research, they either steal it or we give to them. Americans should be very very afraid.....

While that may be true, when the largest military in the world BY FAR performs war games not far from your borders, you have a right to be concerned.

As an American, would you be upset or concerned if China was performing war games in the Gulf of Mexico ?

I'd throw rocks at em'...

Thanks for the smile JP, I needed it !

the difference is china had the drill with russia in yellow sea, few hundred mile of china coast, not in mexican golf. where US had drill in South China Sea, much closer to china than US. image whats the reaction will be if china had a drill with cuba near cuba coast!!

Don't forget the middle east. What we're doing over there may usher in Luke 21:20. Those Al Qeada rebels we are supporting courtesy of the CIA might just turn around and bite us in the back and surround Israel next.

Nostradamus and the Mayan Calendar? Do you really expect people to take you seriously when you spout these things as rational?

Education is fundmental:

The current era (known to the Mayans as a baktun) does end on December 21, 2012. However, the world will not end; the calendar simply rolls over to the next baktun. It’s very similar to the Gregorian date of January 1, 2000.

And just like we celebrated the beginning of the new millennium, the Mayans would have celebrated the beginning of a new baktun. This was not something to fear.

That's not scary. What's scary is that for some reason, in 2012, millions of people are still gullible enough to believe that Nostradamus, the Mayan Calendar (although I agree 100% with Samirah that it's been grossly misinterpreted) and the Bible have any relevance to anything even remotely associated with reality.

Note to everyone who thinks the world will end this year: Send me your stuff.

Nostradamus and the Mayan Calendar? Do you really expect people to take you seriously when you spout these things as rational?

I believe he was just trying to add a different twist to the discussion, based on the rest of the post.

And being that more Americans believe in a physical manifestation of the devil than not, I don't see this post any more or less far fetched.

To CAR 56...Conspiracy Theorists and End of The Worlders, always the brunt of Jokes LOL.....Of course many of those same Conspiracy Theorists hit on Truth but then they are seen as visionaries...

Like Myths and Legends, often there are kernels of truth to be found, in some, more kernels than in others but you get my point. It never hurts to pay attention at least somewhat to the cry in the dark.

As far as the end of the world goes, there is No doubt it will happen one day and as resources get tighter, space more limited, and ideologies further apart, why not sooner rather than later??

What would a major pandemic do to the world?

What would a Nuclear exchange do to the World?

What would a Major natural catastrophe do to the World? ( Meteor, Super Volcano, Massive earthquake / tsunami's....If our newest version of Krakatoa were to explode causing a 2 year winter, how many would die of starvation?? We know Millions would die simply from the eruption and its immediate aftermath and thats if it were no larger than the original eruption that caused the Year of No summer in the 1800's........Geologists say it will be Much Larger next time however...Up to 100 times larger!! ( Think Yellowstone Park exploding...All of it!!)

Christians believe the end times are upon us, that the signs are all falling into place and that the prophecies in revelation will be fulfilled very soon....If that IS the case than we are looking at

Pandemics ( More than 1 ), An Ocean Based super volcano, a Huge Meteor hitting Earth, A Worldwide Red Algea Bloom, An Earthquake that will shake the entire planet, and More as if thats not enough!!

Oh, and Many believe America will be judged as the great prostitute and it will be destroyed....Is America the Prostitute of the World?? If it is, We may be in for a really Ugly Ride in the not so distant future. I wonder if Canada will be excluded from that Judgement :)

Todd,

There's a reason why end-of-the-worlder's are the butt of jokes: If you're wrong, you're a whack-a-doodle, and if you're right, there's nobody left to acknowledge the superiority of your vision.

Or if their wrong they just pull another date out of their ass.

Yes, there is a reason why our military spending is so high. No one else can do what the U.S. can do. Let's not get carried away with the U.S. being the most war-hungry country. In the aftermath of WW I and WW II we had to reluctantly change our foreign policy in an effort to avoid WW III. We were dragged into both of those wars kicking and screaming. After WW II we looked at the global landscape and said that we can no longer live in isolation. With the nuclear era the world became smaller. Europe was decimated. No other nation could do what had to be done for the next 50 years, which was to serve as a counter-balance against a wave of aggressive communism seeking global dominance. Now, we clearly screwed up along the way, particularly in Vietnam. But, our military expenditures destroyed the Soviet Union. We are not perfect - particularly our elected "leaders". However, if, for the time being, there is only one true super power nation, I for one am damn glad it's the United States. It would be great if we didn't need our military. But that's a fantasy world that will not exist in our life times. Likely the best hope with China is that they will continue a move to some form of democracy. Communism has always and will always fail. It's simply a matter of time. The Chinese people are likely not much different than us. Their government is the problem (just as ours is). The more China becomes intertwined in global commerce and the more they move away from hard line communismn, the less likely there will be an armed conflict between our two nations. Both would have too much to lose. You claim that the presence of American military will surely raise the possibility of war. I would argue that the lack of American military would lead absolutely to war.

WakeUpAmerica,

That was an excellent comment. I really agree with your logic. It
is true. When we took a "isolationist" approach after WWI and when we
gave away territory in the Pacific- it only came back and bit us in the butt- a
la Pearl Harbor. Wilson tried to keep us included in foreign affairs with the
Versailles treaty but the public would not back it. It is so interesting to see
how governmental power/control has changed over time considering the public
(for the most part) STILL doesn't back foreign involvement- but the government
does what it has to and NEEDS to do.

World War II was a valuable lesson in shaping our policies today.
While we were keeping to ourselves in the 1930's- Hitler was ravaging an entire
continent. This taught us that we need to stay involved and keep tabs to avoid
such a war. Of course, over time, we still haven't gotten it right but as
Americans, we need to be patient. The US- if no one else- clearly needs to
assume a policing role because otherwise we could see history repeat itself. No
one likes to see dead American soldiers fighting other countries battles, but
unfortunately those are the consequences of joining a military that acts as a
policing force around the globe. I have faith that over much more time the US
(with the right leadership) will find a way to balance its economy, foreign
policy, and military- but for now- they are doing more harm than good for this
world.

Too many wars and armed conflicts to count unfortunately.

I have to disagree with you Wake Up. Can you please explain the reason that our federal government spends $600 BILLION more than the #2 spender, China ? From the what I can see it's a form of global dominance with over 700 military bases OUTSIDE the US, most of them easily tied to corporate interests.

Our government has created a need for perpetual war, it may not be that they are war hungry, but they have made war a necessity. The only products made here in America off American sweat is weapons and trash these days. Top that off with a private central bank, like The Federal Reserve, need to finance wars and you have an economy centered around war.

Also the American public DID NOT want to be involved in WW1. Woodrow Wilson was elected President campaigning that he wouldn't involve America in WW1. After he was elected the Creel Committee was created, which was a government run propaganda office using lies, half truths, and challenging citizens patriotism to gain public support for America's entrance in WW1. And it worked, which is why the government is so successful in their propaganda to this day.

I'll agree that America's entrance in WW2 was practically unavoidable, and the right thing to do. But then our government ruined most of the good it did by employing and utilizing some of the worst Nazi scientists and intelligence officers the SS had to gain control over Korea and Southern Italy using torture and murder.

If you look closely at communism, there's reason to believe that was overblown as was the perception that they could achieve global dominance. It was another time the US federal government used something to create hysteria and a bogeyman to rally the people. Vietnam and Russia were the first example used in America of communism. Yet what threat were the Vietnamese really ? They were a country already torn in half, one half communist, the other not communist. Then suddenly to the north you have a billion people suddenly evil communists (Russia). Then look at the Cold War, America was racing against Russia, yet America was always ahead of Russia. First man on the moon, first nuclear weapon, only country to use a nuclear weapon. The Cold War with Russia was used for questionable US involvement, more than nit wasn't. Operation Cyclone, The Cuban Missle Crisis, and Operation Northwoods to name a few.

I'm not saying those weren't evil regimes, they certainly were, but also overblown to enhance the public support of The Cold War.

I'm not saying we don't need military either, I'm saying we don't need an authoritarian military empire bent on perpetual war and global dominance.

Why do we need to spend $700 BILLION - $1 TRILLION dollars annually on military ?

Our government wants no part of a war with China, partially for financial reasons, but mainly because they have a formidable military. Yet they only spent about $115 billion on military, which has doubled in the last 5 years.

My point being if America cut it's military spending in half, we would still have the largest most powerful military in the world by about $400 billion, and we'd have $500 billion to put towards the deficit.

There is nothing in The Constitution that say America needs to be the world police force.

We have enough trouble here in our own country, there is no need to be imposing our will globally when we have such a mess in our own house.

I think you have somewhat of a point that we are an
authoritarian military empire- but I don’t think we have a choice. We spend A
LOT on our defense, but that’s because we have to. There is a reason why we
have authority and why other countries come to us for help and it is because of
our incredible military strength. If we want to continue our role as this
police like force then we have to have a budget that covers the military
technology necessary to keep that role.

You are right- China does spend a lot less on its military
but they are light years behind us. They currently have ONE aircraft carrier.
The US has 11, 10 of them nuclear-powered. And those numbers stem back to the
policy theory. We need those symbols of power in every ocean if we want to
assure security.

I understand that this idea of policing the world is
uncomfortable and in many ways it is unfortunate. And you’re right, it is not
in the constitution and we have many messes in our own country. But the truth of
the matter is that if we don’t assume this watch-dog role, then NO ONE will.
And when no one can truly promote the kind of order this world needs then
things can get out of hand and snowball into what we had in the first half of
the 20^th century.

I'd be able to agree with you Nick if it wasn't for the selective enforcement by the world police force. If it's about freedom, democracy, liberty, or doing the right thing then how come our military isn't in places like Sri Lanka, Nigeria, Burma, Ethipoia, Somalia and etc.

Then you have to consider the American government's intelligence arm undermining democracy in numerous countries around the globe and then supporting directly and indirectly the new dictator or military junta that takes control. Which in turn usually creates the next bogeyman to stir hysteria amongst the general public in America later on down the road.

And honestly if any country even had the sustained capability to attack the US on our own soil, we have enough military and America loving citizens to do what is necessary to repel an attack.

So since the "good war", WW2, what war or armed conflict our federal government involved us in was for freedom, democracy, liberty or doing what's right ? What has this endless cycle of war brought us ? A mangled economy dependent on war (and trash) where the only people actually paying (physically, emotionally, and financially) for it are the citizens of the countries involved.

We are as guilty as the politicians and elected officials because we allow it. Personal responsibility and civic virtue used to be a way of life in America, now we just depend on a group of fat cats that we supposedly "elect" into office to make decisions for us. Meanwhile close to $15,000 of my check goes to federal income tax alone annually to pay for war so a corporation can make a product outside of this country for peanuts and then make a huge profit on it pimping it back here.

And we wonder why there's no jobs here.

I understand your views completely and I understand why there
is a perceived selective enforcement because like police anywhere in the world-
they can’t be EVERYWHERE at the same time. But actually, the US army has
provided military expertise to the Sri Lankan military for years now. Also, in
November of last year, Washington sent a number of troops and advisers to help
the Nigerians deal with their Islamic terrorist problems. And as recently as
January, the United States has been intervening to help conduct elections and
military reform in Burma. Our army even has a military and drone base set up in
Ethiopa. There really aren’t many places they haven’t been, or tried to be. I
also feel that the US has showed some responsible restraint in places like
Syria and Libya.

I don’t think it is fair to say that no conflicts since WWII
have been fought for freedom, doing the right thing, etc. I think that the
majority of our involvements are done for all the right reasons. I think
sometimes we even involve ourselves too much when trying to do the right thing.
You don’t think that fighting to remove Saddam
Hussein or Osama bin Laden was the right thing?

Everyone has different opinions on whether our countries
involvements are worthwhile or justified.

That is all true, but we're talking about places where there are serious crimes against humanity, and either mass genocide or the potential for mass genocide.

While I can agree that Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan have and had their troubles, that's where the largest numbers of US troops are by far, yet none of those countries are in any of the genocide watch groups top ten. Meanwhile we send 10-12 troops and some trainers to the places that are hot beds of crime against humanity (I'm aware of my sarcasm towards the numbers).

I do think that getting Saddam out of Iraq was the right thing, even though we were lied to about the reasoning. I would have been okay with the truth, I can't accept the WMD lies.

I also think that killing Osama Bin Laden was the right thing as well, way too late as he obviously was no longer in any form of power or control over Al Qaeda ten years later.

But here's the truth of the matter, and my largest issue with the ouster of Saddam and killing of Bin Laden. The American federal government created both of those monsters, as well as numerous others (Jallaludin Haqqani as well).

I can't accept that getting rid of both of these evil men was doing what's right when both of them came to power with US tax dollars and federal government training, support, and assistance.

More time, effort and money was spent putting those two in positions of power than will be spent on the minor assistance you mentioned above in regards to countries like Sri Lanka, Nigeria, Burma, etc.

And I won't even go into what our government has done in South and Central America. The list is long, horrific, and quite frightening.

LOL, obama admitted to using cocain or did you just conviently leave that out. Bill Clinton not only smoked breast rubbed cigars he also smoked pot.

7.62x39mm,

What did you leave out about yourself ? Everything ? Why didn't you post your grades at primary school ? You didn't mention the time you got into trouble with your teacher in middle school either. How about the girl you didn't date in high school. We want everything.....

You are quite wrong. Filipinos need to know that America is their ally, and US soldiers can actually act in their neighborhood, cooperating with their troops in a coordinated manner. Indonesians need to know that America means business when it signed a treaty with a nation. Australians need to know that US troops and vessels can actually operate in the Pacific....

Military exercises are not just for the military. They are part of the communication with the world.

Spoken like a True Capitalist bent on enslaving the american Worker...Yep, give exeryone a Patriotic reason to accept a wage you cant live on. Its not enough both members of a household must work to make ends meet anymore, Now you have them working 80 hours a week for the same income, and even as Prices are on the rise.

Which Corporation do you own??Maybe you would be willing to supplement your workers income by Giving them YOUR Income and accepting what you would make them live on as Your income...

Apples CEO made a Cool 300 + Million in compensation in 2011...Enough to raise workers incomes tremendously...But oh yea, Most of what they make isnt made in the USA, its made in CHINA!!!

The GREED of the American and Canadian Business Community is Staggering. That they actually believe it will be tolerated much longer is Ludicrous.

The time will come when Responsible People will simply stop BUYING the products they sell. Stop supporting the companies that supply them...People will say enough is enough one day and that day is coming if things dont change soon, and Dramatically!! The USA talks about Humanitarian records but perhaps its time they looked at their own....How many homeless people does it take???

There are several hundred thousand Empty homes in america and several Million people out in the cold!!

Thanks to Corporate America who Raped the american worker stealing his Home, his livelihood, his retirement, and his dignity!! And Social Security, the workers Last best hope is the Next thing to go.....Corporate America see's the writing on the wall and they are stealing everything they can from this country and stashing it over seas for when America Implodes!! They have No Loyalty...NONE!!!

Well said todd.

I believe thougtwise heart is in the right place, and for the most part he/she is right.

The only products made in America off American sweat are trash and weapons. An economy can't survive off endless trash and war.

I do agree with Todd's post. We shouldn't have to take wage cuts. If we shut down, or severely reform the Federal Reserve, who set our cost of living and wage scales top to bottom, we wouldn't have to take wage cuts.

People are quick to cite organized labor as the downfall of America production. But if you look at how the corporations that left to produce their goods outside the US, they carefully, with federal government assistance, destroyed organized labor in other countries as well. Creating sweatshops and slave labor.

Also the federal income tax is not only un-Constitutional, but a large reason our government is able to spend such an obscene and obnoxious amount of money to control corporate interests outside the US with the military.

The people need to remember that this country was founded on personal responsibility and civic virtue, we are just as guilty for allowing and paying for it as the politicians and corporations are for doing it. We need to organize as a people instead of allowing our government to atomize and isolate us. We need a labor party to compete with the Dems/Rep, made up of American everyday citizens.

I think Todd needs to pick up his marbles and go home, what a sarcastic kid.

Superskunk= Very well put. But a labor party, A.K.A. National Socialist Party is how men like Hitler come to power. Its sad, but America might need that kind of reform to repair the misgivings that coincide with capitalism. With all the current bs and future bs to come one can only predict the next social movement may come from the unemployed American working class.

I can understand and agree with you in that regard JP, but a labor party doesn't have to be socialist.

I'm talking about an organized party controlled by the people that will address the issues in our society, especially labor and the working class, which our federal government has allowed the corporations to gain control of. And it would impede on the corporate controlled Democratic and Republican parties, that do nothing to assist the citizens of this country. It would essentially bring the power of government back to the people, where it was supposed to be all along.

I don't want the people to share the profits of the corporations equally or anything like that. I'm not against socialism in it's proper form, but socialism is against a good number of the founding principles of this country.

Maybe a different name instead of labor party. I'm just saying that we need our government to impose excessive taxes, tariffs, and maybe even embargos if companies don't want to make their products here in America. You can go outside the country for cheap labor, but you'll pay hefty fees to get the finished product back into the largest consumer based country in the world.

Now they are not only allowing these companies to leave, they assist them in numerous ways, from political sabotage to the use of force. And the American companies with factories outside of the country don't have to pay as much, because it's viewed as a inter company transfer.

It would help the economy by bringing back large numbers of jobs, it would create revenue for the government to possibly allow them to ease their taxation without representation, and it would ease and possibly eliminate this country's need for war.

We only make weapons and trash off American sweat anymore, that needs to stop.

Yes Furor, We hear you.

China does enough screwing

Not exactly.. with the one child law, there's not many risking it... a country of Blue Balls.

Just trying to inject a little humor in an otherwise boring article, sorry to have offended you, Todd, and your ultra ego.

You're excessive. The economic threat can be stopped if Obama ( or any Potus) says: no imports from China and voila, or isolationism. No need to mass murder everyone. The Chinese population is like us, most want to be comfortable materially speaking, have interesting work and be happy overall. And I'm sure most love each other and their kids and are peons like us. Nuke 'em?

I knew it wouldn't be long before i saw the typical conditioned American government propaganda response of "Nuke em !!!! Get 'er done !"

I wonder if the US and it's citizens would be upset if China staged war games with another country in the Gulf of Mexico ?

Mike's grampa forgot to tell him how screwed he'd be after the 1940's if it wasn't for his "West". My only regret as an American is that we didn't "finish the job" back then. The World has too many a holes!