Just hate looking for a cause to attach itself to. From the Klan to the Black Panthers the tune is always the same.

navyvet98, likening the Black panthers to the KKK is like saying MADD is like drunk drivers, or Nazis are like Jews, or Government officials are like tea baggers, Apartheid govt is like ANC.

I guess you don't need a very good SAT score to get into the Navy.

Nazis, KKK are strictly hate organizations. Black Panthers were formed by an oppressed people as a self-defense organization.

David, you're joking, right? The Black Panthers were the furthest from a self-defense organization as possible. They were founded as a revolutionary leftist organization with a provocative rhetoric, militant posture. The group leaders espoused socialist, and communist doctorines.

Let's see..... come up with something recent about the Black Panther's not being a self-defense orginization: How about putting a $10K bounty on Zimmerman? That sounds more like taking initiative than self-defense.

It sounds like these people were targeted due to political affiliation. Whatever their personal views unless a law was broken, then Germany is perscuting people for their political standing. This is what Obama is trying to incite in the US. He speaks very anti Republican.

"Neo-nazi extremists." Another fine headline from the Department of Redundancy Department.

Hang'em with piano wire.. Ignance is Krautsville... String'em up!

As economies spiral downward, look for more rather than less of this sort of thing. When economies can no longer provide entitlements and/or jobs, people usually place the blame on immigrants and violence is sure to follow.

A good part of this problem is caused by allowing unfettered immigration putting significant strain on the host country's resources, not to mention the inevitable clash of cultures.

Though this idea of " the only good____" may be misapplied and even horribly brutal in many cases.. " "the only good nazi is a dead nazi" seems to hit the spot..

The article for some reason did not list the murders; the victims have names, and the article could have named them. There was a significant cover-up. The displayed weapons were only emblems; the real weapons were different.

Stupid is as stupid does. This is the reason my family moved our businesses from Germany almost 100 yrs ago. In Germany, it's not the most intelligent that rise. It's the loudest.

martin bart

Schindler was a nazi but a good one. nittyahoo is a zionist but a bad one.

It is insulting to suggest a good nazi is a dead nazi, likewise it is also insulting to suggest a good zionist is a dead zionist.

Way to stay on topic Ric. You forgot to blame Obama, the Kenyan Muslim who wants to take your guns, and let all illegals into your country.

Let me guess, you're a teabagger?

Sorry David...not a Demo or a Repub... the two plutocratic parties....but a confirmed Catholic Socialist!!

Ric, I agree that all hate crimes should be investigated, by whatever groups, and that is the point of the article. These crimes were not investigated in spite of a tip that was given by the F.B.I. in 2007, and I would consider the F.B.I. wouldn't make such a tip without evidence.

Wasn't 9/11 also planned in Munich? And Aren't the FBI American?

Rob,

They weren't arrested just for what they believe. The article said prosecutors allege they are guilty of "significant crimes", whatever that may mean.

Rob, while flashing a swastika or a nazi salute unfortunately IS a crime in Germany, this bunch seems to be involved in some hard core violence.

The term "significant crimes" is suspiciously vague. Wouldn't you agree? I've seen people arrested here, much later charged with catch-all "crimes." And recently in Canada, only to be released because there was no actual crime committed. It never pays to be too different or offensive. It scares people, and when people are scared they act irrationally at first, and then later come up with some excuse to justify their actions. It's a pattern, a very human pattern. I do hope cooler heads prevail, or at least come up with something substantial.

Rob,

You could be right. It could be trumped up charges. Who knows? Unfortunately, the article did not give sufficiently detailed information about what they are supposed to have done for us to form a judgement about the matter. Anything we might think would just be speculation.

I lived there for a while, Rob, and noticed that the garden variety neo-Nazis in Germany are dime-a-dozen, but the Polizei leaves them alone for the most part. These guys seem to be involved in something a lot more sinister. German police is very firm but they do not do political stunts. It is not at all like here in US.

The article says that they are linked to 11 murders. Perhpas the added that later?

Murders of Turkish and a Greek restaurant owner. Murder is a significant crime, unless you consider some of the murders that are considered acceptable: highway fatalities, unsafe toys, deadly pollution, smoking, cutting off support and Medicaid to elderly, not allowing chemo therapy or bone marrow transplants to people who are too poor to afford health insurance... We have lots of death panels in the U.S., don't we?

Being a nazi is not about free speech..anymore than being a member of alquida is.Their doctrine since the time of Hitler is to mass murder ,torture and is the most violent racist genocidal doctrine.The nazis were hung at Nuremburg for their acts.Being a nazi is a crime against the world and humanity and Germany who experienced it know better than anyone else.. They must be inprisoned and hunted down .If they resist violently.. use all the force necessary to detain them . Like alquida, it is not a debating society,Its a deadly mass murdering group and that is their only reason to exist.

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s a deadly mass murdering group.That is their only reason for being!

Being a nazi is not different to being a zionist, a communist or a member of Ku Klux Klan. It was merely a membership to a political organization. Only his deeds determined whether he was good or bad.

Most nazi were bad, but there were also many good ones. In a same way there are good zionists and bad zionist as represented by bigots like sharon, begin and nittyahoo.

No kidding Max..also why are American troops STILL stationed in Germany and S.Korea??? These countries can defend themselves and we are BROKE!!!!

Yes, Ric... Russia spends on defense ($35B) less than 4% of what we do (1T) and still nobody f-ks with them. We are the masters of pissing away our tax dollars.

Nobody F's with Russia because they know Russia is unpredictable.

No, nobody f-ks with Russia because they have a ton of nukes and if you screw with them, they will kill you.

Nobody pokes the Bear because it will swipe back. Yet we consider awarding our troops medals for "courageous restraint." Putin adventures like Hemingway while Obama chastises from the ivory tower. Not a criticism, just an observation.

It is a difficult tightrope to walk: investigations need restraint, but both the F.B.I. and C.I.A. do international investigations to prevent terrorist activity within the U.S. Think about the report that Rice and the Bush administration ignored in 2001. It is not money ill-spent. However, the source, F.B.I. instead of C.I.A. implies that the F.B.I. started an investigation of a connection between this group and people in America; gives me the shivers. I do agree about military bases all over the place, but maybe these can be international (and most people wouldn't want that either) to watch over problems; the U.S. is too far away from other countries to protect our shores without some monitoring. George H.W. Bush closed a lot of bases, and Clinton continued with that, but the bases closed included ones around New York City (Fort Dix, Fort Hamilton, etc.), and then when 9/11 happened, the military was too far away to respond or rescue, and a lot of firefighters and police died, and there was no military-grade large helicopters to be able to every try to put out fires or rescue anybody. It saved a lot of money, didn't it? NOT.

Raymond you are correct that Germany, Austria, UK took in a high influx of Turkish immigrants under the guest worker program. Unfortunately, Germany had been plagued with several unsolved murders of foreigners over the past few years, namely Turkish restaurant owners, one Greek man (probably mistaken identity due to his brown skin similar to a some Turkish people) and one female police officer investigating the case. This year, the cold case was broken and they traced the murders to the underground neo-nazi group. It was discovered that this group was being protected by people in the far right community as well as some far right politicians and police officers. Lastly, these nazis had t-shirts printed with a pic of kebab with a bloody knife through it saying kill all Turks as well as several of the underground newspapers with cartoons depicting the murders of the Kebab owners and patrons. This group was supported financially for the purpose of killing foreigners. Interesting that there have been several killings of foreigners by neo-nazis across Europe especially in Hungary, UK and Poland. Russia also has a big problem but the neo-nazis are not investigated like in Germany. If you would like to know more, just google kebab killings, kebab murders, or nazi donner murders etc.

Yes, and all the religious kooks are drooling to see it happen.

Evenstar, take what you just said and replace "German" with "Islam" and "little corporal" with *insert any islamic leader here* Thank you.

There are many religious Kooks out there. I am religious, am I Kook? Thats debatable, however, I do not wish to see the tribulation of Revelation as it will be,

"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." Matthew 24:21

I dont want to see the terrible things that happen today, as it appears to becoming worse with each passing year. I pray for peace and forgiveness, as that is what I am taught through the bible. If thats being a Kook, then I am a Kook.

thatguydownsouth:

As the artical was about Germans, I stayed on topic, however, any extremist group (including Christians)are dangerous, as they have perverted and corrupted ideals.

If you are spreading the gospel of peace, forgiveness, and love, and are performing good deeds that benefit others, you are definitely not a religious kook. But if you are eager to see the destruction of the world so that 'the wicked will be punished', you are loco in the kabeza...

Germany will play a big role in the EU in the coming years and might actually take control of the union. If and when that happens, the tribulation of Revelation will begin, and WW I & WW II together will look like a girl scout picnic.

Germany already has taken over the EU, just look at the negotiations with Greece, whatever Merkel says usually goes.. I dont blame them either since they have the most skin in the game and with the EU largest economy, they would be crazy not too..

Did you notice that the ammo in the picture are actually BLANKS? And the 'pistol' is NOT A FIREARM (it's an air pistol)?

If you read the article, you will notice that they didn't fire blanks when the committed murders. These are only replicas in the picture that they display in their meetings.

Hateful and vindictive Hatred. Irresponsibility and blaming others. Stupidity and lame-mindedness. Mental disorders. Yeah, I think that covers it.

The linked ammo are all blanks. See the crimps where the bullets should be.

The pic is misleading because there is a very strong neo-nazi organization in Germany. They also have paramilitary neo-nazi training camps with target practice along with a plethora of propaganda. By the way, they are hoarding more than antique weapons. Also most of the neo- nazis collect stuff from wwII to remind them of their admired leader, Hitler. An obsession like that can only lead to evil deeds. Moreover, those harmless brass knuckles that you see are actually used by several members that go out looking for foreigners to beat up. An African man standing at a bus stop was killed at the hands of nazis sporting their shiny knuckles. There have been a few hundred beatings perpetrated by these idiots ,as you called them, against people with brown skin. Google donner killings and nazis beating up immigrants in Germany.

Article is incomplete. What are the 'significant crimes'? Merely collecting Nazi memorabilia and congregating in Germany or somthing much more serious?

An extremist is just that..... EXTREME .......extremism is everywhere..... in every form of government, religion and in every culture.....

I think Islam is working on taking over Germany, and the politicians are too weak and scared of being called whatever, which makes people react.

Im hardly PRO neo-Nazi but I think its scary when you say governments shouldnt tolerate this type of 'thinking'. What other types of thinking shouldnt Governments tolerate as well??

Yes PV, and the American people should forever carry the burden of Native American genocide and their war crimes in Philippines where US soldiers exterminated several hundred thousands of brown people... http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/war.crimes/US/U.S.Philippines.htm

Extremists should not be tolerated. It is not a left or right issue. Anyone who would harm others or think of using violence as a tool should be stopped before something happens. Not after. These people are modeling themselves after one of the most violent/vile regimes in human history. NO.... it should NOT be tolerated in any way shape or form.

Max .....read carefully ......I said " must forever carry that burden". There is a difference.......they cannot deny their history and neither can we as Americans. We too must learn from our mistakes ....Not passing judgement on the German people.....not at all.

And what burden should the thousands of Muslims who keep pouring into a small country like Germany, and the rest of Europe, trying to take it for themselves carry. When will the Europeans experience the fate of the Native Americans?

Feel better?

Timothy Mcveigh again? Geesh, if he didn't do that who would you people have to point to every time? Why would people come from Germany to blow up a building in Oklahoma? Were there no white Christians in the building? What were the demographics?

And many of us believe that the Democratic and Republican Parties need to be outlawed. You equate 'Pubs to Nazis like we equate Dems' to the Communists.

See my point? Just because you think your right doesn't mean you are.....

1. They also hide behind the first amendment

2. Dont forget the KKK

That's one of the most disturbing, replusive and insensitive comments I've ever read on Newsvine. You're disgusting.

Your right to a large degree.....