Islamabad — A drone attack in North Waziristan, Pakistan on Sunday killed six suspected militants, including foreigners, and injured others. The attack targeted a girl’s high school in Miramshah where the militants were living.
It was the first drone attack since Pakistan demanded a complete halt, and was expected to heighten tensions between the United States and Pakistan. Both American and Pakistani officials have told NBC in recent days that the relationship is already at a low point.
Tribal sources and government officials said the militants had taken over a portion of the school and turned it into their compound and training facility.
The sources said a room where six militants were residing had been destroyed.
"The death toll could rise as over two dozen militants were residing in the school building," according to local tribesman Haji Namdar. "Fire broke out immediately after the drone attack and engulfed the building. No one can go there to help and retrieve the bodies and injured from the building as three drones are still flying over Miramshah town."
He said a number of militants had also gathered outside the school building but were unable to go in to help their fellow fighters.
Pakistani officials in recent days repeated their demand for a complete cessation of drone strikes ahead of and during a visit by U.S. Special Representative Marc Grossman to Islamabad. Grossman is leading the first senior delegation to Pakistan since relations were all but cut off in November.
The drone issue has been central to the current impasse. U.S. officials maintain they respect Pakistan's parliamentary process and wish to re-engage in a mutually-beneficial manner — including their most pressing desire to have the NATO supply lines through Pakistan re-opened — but said the U.S. reserved the right to use drones to target militants in the border area.
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Wounder how much this is going to cost us ????? Also how many will be called civilians ????
Just get out and let them have at one another .
bob
ALOT less than Bush cost us with 10 years of troops getting shot at.
Hey Bob, please understand the material before you decide to comment. Foreigners means Al Qaeda and the tribes that operate in the FATA near Mir Ali and Miramshah are NOT hostile to one another, only the US and its governmental appointees in Afghanistan.
Civilians are not a hazard in areas where AQ and Taliban forces operate, one because the cameras on the MQ-9 Reapers are too good and secondly because anyone in that immediate AO are active supporters of them - meaning they are probably helping them build suicide vests and load weapons. Sometimes this even includes the children as they are indoctrinated early to become fighters.
read this first
worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/29/11457865-red-cross-doctor-found-beheaded-in-pakistan?lite
Yes it is time to stop the drone attaks and us wasting money. Cut off all financial aid. Instead we need to decide either leave or carpet bomb the place. I vote for carpet bombs and end future problems with them, afterwards take what resources they have we can use to recoup costs and sell off remainder of land to whoever will then buy it. Afterwards lets see how many others still want to help support those that will keep trying to make attacks against us.
bob1/28-- One drone attack saves US and Coalition soldiers lives. Along with innocent civilians who won't be targeted by these terrorists. We don't have to give Pakistan any money. And we can eliminate terrorists where they hide and harbored all by ourselves. I am tired of hearing that we need to leave. Anyone who believes that doesn't really understand what is going on over there. You only hear what the news tells you.
If we leave, the terrorists will have another country other than Pakistan to set up shop and plan attacks. It is not fiction it is fact.
kristian If the usa would learn to mind its own business and give up the notion of world dominance that would stop all the attacks.
six suspected terrorist...i guess when they kill our soldiers...they can call them suspected terrorist...it is their country...just say'n we need to leave that crap hole...waste of time money and life...
YES bob and usa the middle east is such a great place and with laws such as these
africanspotlight.com/2012/04/egyptian-women-protest-farewell-intercourse-law-that-allows-husbands-have-sex-with-dead-wives-up-to-6-hours/
Does anyone believe that we should continue to support them in anything with any kind of aid? who really believes it should be ok to have sex with women AFTER they are dead? Also it will allow them to marry girls as young as 14. SOunds like such an advanced area to be living in
usasucs; are you really that moronic to actually believe what you just said? Wow, a new bottom definition of ignorance and naivety!
Using drones is one of the most cowardly things that a military can do. If you don't have the balls to face your enemy, then your a coward. Ya that means you Obama, Pinetta and Holder. Not to mention taliban dressing like woman and hiding behind little girls.
My immediate thoughts went to the article about Dr. Dale as well, bluthunder. It would be a wonderful thing if the monsters that kidnapped and murdered Dr. Dale were offed in this attack.
usasucs:
With your offensive moniker and naive outlook, I sincerely hope you live in another country. If not, you ought to consider moving to one.
ShoooooooooooooooooooooooooooBoom""
Its very simple if Pakistanis wants the Drone attacks to stop. They should get Al Qaeda to stop attacks against Western Country's and renounce Violence and Try peace-full political opposition approaches
Wornout
It must be hell to be you, Try a pina Colada a couple aspirin and Turn off Fox Noise... Trust me you will feel 100% better
@ plain bob
Seem to forget what constitutes Terrorists from an "Occupational Force" Here let me remind you.
The United States, Isn't a "Terrorist". Why? Were from one unified color, fighting conventionally in Uniform. Targets are people who wish to kill and maim civilians with little care to those around them. Aim of the United States is to grow a government like the rest of the civilized world. Make it an army so it can stand on it's own and not backward tribal area's. Keep the country and region from being a terrorist harbor.
Terrorists -> People from mulch-national ethics.. not from said country of origin but from all over.. not fighting in a uniform or easily identifiable colors.. Targets are civilians, government funded, uniform soldiers or government in general in hopes of causing terror and making the populace afraid of daily life. Financial backing is from other terrorists or special interest groups such as Iran.
You're welcome.
INCREASE the USA drone attacks. Lets get this over with now. Sick of these people and their threats. To the Peaceful People of the Mideast, turn these terrorist into authorities and demand that your government represent peace. You deserve a better life without terrorist control and threat. Join the peace loving world and advance your civilization. We will not stop or leave until you do.
@Squall:
You are correct. Americans are not terrorists, they are Imperialists, and they are just as bloodthirsty and callous toward their victims as the worst of the ancient Romans. I'll toss a coin over who is more morally bankrupt in the eyes of the LORD.
Shandril,
Do you remember the 2004 Beslen school hostage crisis in Russia? The islamist's murdered 186 innocent school children on purpose. How does that coin toss work for you now?
Shandril BINGO !!! Correct.. Blood thirsty imperialistic and will stop at nothing for their quest for world control. Fortunately the POS americans are rapidly losing their influence and can only bully a small insignificant country like Pakistan. If they had any balls why not Russia , or China ?? Because they would get their arses kicked
When did we start going to war with these Jackazzes. I thought they already got Osama. Looking to clean up Obamas act with killing Osama again just in case we missed him the last time. Kill em all let allah sort em out.
bob1/28 "Wounder how much this is going to cost us ????? Also how many will be called civilians ????"
They deliberately hid in a girl's school so that they could claim that any terrorists killed were 'innocent schoolgirls'.
sez me u whacko " Try a pina Colada a couple aspirin and Turn off Fox Noise... Trust me you will feel 100% better"
And then turn on msnbc and you'll see that we have full employment, Obama has 'created or saved' 15 million new jobs, the economy is roaring back, and the National Debt should be paid off next year. You'll feel 1000% better.
only 6 killed ! what a waste of our bomb! Ahhhh the good old days when a nuke was a nuke and men were men!!!!! ( not silly sissys who like kissing each other) GOD BLESS ALL VETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roy Wilson,
How much do you get paid to be a Troll for the GNOP, If you dont like MSNBC get off the site, I dont go to Faux for information, its utterly useless, Jobs? ask Boehner and the Teaparty about jobs that what they ran on in 2010, where are the jobs? We Independents have buyers remorse with the Teapublicans, Hell the last year of Bush in office we were losing a Million jobs a month and the Dow was at 7000. Is that the good ol times the GOP are talking about?
Hello folks, ahhh, I can see we continue to spread our Democracy around the world, even when they don't ask for it, how generous we are. I bet they didn't know how painful and noisy Democracy is. Don't piss America off or we will bring Democracy to you. As a fellow blogger so eloquently stated: "America, land of the free, dictator to the rest of the world".
shandril and worn out, please start learning to actually think for yourself, do you wish to keep giving up more and more rights to feel safe each time they try to form an attack against us? In your cases it is probably very likely you do, you are the type that support the tsa and homeland security. WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE PUT THE LIFE OF OUR SOLDIERS IN DANGER, because you dont agree with drone attacks? Hell we should carpet bomb them instead, and make the rest understand we will no longer put up with beheadings of our people or true cowardly attacks like using commercial planes to attack with.We should not be giving them money only time we should give anyone financial aid is when there is a natural disaster and they truely need help, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO KEEP TRYING TO GIVE EVERYONE MONEY AND THEY DO NOT LIKE US ANYMORE FOR ALL WE DO GIVE THEM. paying and bribing them does not work but being a country of real action and them knowing we will take real acgtionn puts us in a position of strength they will listen to!
As far as usasucs goes it would be impossible to help him learn anything
Trustverify- as long as people continue to attack us, we can dictate what we want. If they don't like dying, they can stop attacking us. Not likely to happen. Too many people don't like our success. If you don't like it you can leave, just like I could.
usasucs - first ; is that "USA sucks" or are you talking about your boyfriend Usa? Secondly, we DID kick the USSRs ass: see World History 1998 - gotta "bone up" on history buddy! Thirdly: if you think WE are bad, wait till the Chinese get hold of your butt- they killed 140,000,000 of their OWN people during the Cultural Revolution, just to get things going!
For everyone else:
Easy solution to this problem: "No more passage of our stuff, and protesting the drones protecting our stuff, or no more $8 Billion a year. Pick one. "
"Oh, OK! Drones it is!"
Entertaining in here tonight!
Hello Ritdog, we have bombed Pakistan at least four times in the last ten months, which is an act of war! When has the Pakistan government attacked the U.S.? How many countries has Pakistan attacked? We have bombed in our short history over 65 countries.
To name a few:
Libya, Iran, Nicaragua, Haiti, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Angola, Mozambique, Honduras, Chile, Congo, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Somalia, Angola, Columbia, Peru, Panama, Yemen, Pakistan, Grenada, Mexico, etc..
We have been a country for almost 236 years and have been at war for 215 years!
The Revolutionary War – 1775 – 1783
The Whiskey Rebellion – 1789 - 1794
The War of 1812 – 1812 – 1814
The Mexican American War – 1846 – 1848
The American Civil War – 1861 – 1865
The Spanish American War – 1897 – 1898
The Indian American Wars – 1775 – 1918
World War I – 1914 – 1918
World War II – 1941 – 1945
Cold War 1945 – 1992
The Vietnam War - 1962 – 1973
The Invasion of Grenada – 1983 – 1984
The Invasion of Panama – 1989
Operation Desert Storm – 1991 – 1992 (Kuwait)
Operation United Shield – 1992 – 1995 (Somalia)
Operation Determined Falcon – 1998 – 1999 (Kosovo, Albania)
Operation Enduring Freedom – 2001 – 2012 (Afghanistan)
Operation Iraqi Freedom – 2003 – 2011 (Iraq)
Operation Freedom Falcon – 2011 - ? (Libya)
If you are proud of this and you support this, you are just as complicit as those pulling the triggers and dropping the bombs. I hope your karmic penance won't be as severe!
they also made the decision to launch a bomb at a girls school. i am sorry but if you dont see something wrong with this then you have some issues. you dont put civilians in danger especially children. the person that gave the order could actually be charged under the UCMJ for giving it.
retired chief master sargent USAf
Com'on you bleeding heart liberals, stop quibbling and bringing up the that old dried up Geneva Convention. The people that got blown to bits were "suspected" of being "militants" and that should be good enough for anybody, especially coming from Uncle Sammy who is never wrong or lies.
And after all it was a girls high school. We all know how dangerous they are so even if they were't "militants" it's good we took it out.
I'm sure If some other country did that here in the good 'ole USA all of us would say Amen brother they were right to bomb the school. Militants whether they are "suspected" or not are a pain in the ass.
What a gentle way of demonstrating agreement with Pakistani demands. These Drones are a real good deal.
usasucs-- You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The US is not set on world dominance. We want to live in peace. But we will protect ourselves if we have to. Sorry you don't see it that way. You have been brainwashed that the US is bad. Well, the US delivers food, aid, healthcare, and military help when there is a crisis all over the globe. I assume you live in a dump of a country and you are just jealous you don't live here.
They hate us because of our freedom.. :::eye roll:::
Hey, TrustVerify: nice list. You must not be an American. Over here we are proud that we rebelled against the British. Big holiday here- July 4th. It all worked out well: we are great friends with the Brits- they are fun.
Ditto the Civil War: fighting to end slavery is a good thing, isn't it? Well, we thought so , anyway.
Skipping into the World Wars, what would be your solution to the Germans/Axis trying to take over Europe/the world? Some people say that our fighting them just solidified their resolve to fight us- which means that we should have just surrendered, and they would have given up, right?
Explain how the Rape of Nanking benefited the Chinese.....and why we should have done nothing. It was our response to that that caused the Japs to unload on Pearl Harbor!
I've also got 6,000,000 dead Jews, and 25,000,000 dead Russians that says you are wrong.
The Cold War was "fought" because of Russian/socialist brutality. Some people say that the Domino Theory was crap. Explain to the people of Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Estonia, Bulgaria, Poland, China, North Vietnam, Burma, North Korea ( keep going?....whoop!: East Germany!) where those people are wrong. I grew up in that era, and didn't see a lot of people trying to escape into the Iron Curtain countries because it was so bad here...
Anyway, if you are an American, you sound kind of like a liberal arts undergrad; philosophy major maybe? Would suggest you get into history a tad more, and find out what has been going on.
And, tells us idiots what your plans would be for saving the world from repression, because right now, you are abetting slavery, mysogyny, racism, communism, death camps, and the end of religious freedom. Interesting stance to take, especially in this day and age.
Let us know!
They were hiding in a girls school and we all know how much respect they have for women don’t we?
How is that for Obama being soft in his foriegn policy?
Obviously you know nothing about the region, funny how you focus on the fact that its a girls school knowing full well that the Taliban hate education for women and have disfigured girls for seeking such.
Keep in mind THAT WE ARE BOMBING A REGION THE PAKISTANIS CANNOT EVEN GOVERN...their troops are afraid to go in there or even barely flyover for that matter. GET A CLUE
Hello Ritdog,
"And, tells us idiots what your plans would be for saving the world from repression, because right now, you are abetting slavery, mysogyny, racism, communism, death camps, and the end of religious freedom. Interesting stance to take, especially in this day and age".
How about we mind our own damn business! Nobody asked us to bring "democracy" to them. "Democracy" has proven to be very loud and painful and in most cases we weren't asked to come and we never leave.
Since World War II, 90% of the casualties of war are unarmed civilians. 1/3 of them children. Our victims have done nothing to us. From Palestine to Afghanistan to Iraq to Somalia to wherever our next target may be, their murders are not collateral damage, they are the nature of modern warfare. They don't hate us because of our freedoms. They hate us because every day we are funding and committing crimes against humanity. The so-called "war on terror" is a cover for our military aggression to gain control of the resources of western Asia.
This is sending the poor of this country to kill the poor of those Muslim countries. This is trading blood for oil. This is genocide, and to most of the world, we are the terrorists. In these times, remaining silent on our responsibility to the world and its future is criminal. And in light of our complicity in the supreme crimes against humanity in Iraq and Afghanistan, and ongoing violations of the U.N. Charter in International Law, how dare any American criticize the actions of legitimate resistance to illegal occupation.
Many of our soldiers don't fight for America, they fight for their lives and their buddies beside them, because we put them in a war zone. They're not defending our freedoms, they're laying the foundation for permanent military bases to defend the freedoms of Exxon Mobil and British Petroleum.
Face it we're Imperialists pure and simple. The elite look down on all of us as expendable chattel.
"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy" Henry Kissinger
So, you are saying we should protest a lot about what the Taliban and Al-Queda are doing to their own people, in addition to ours? Just protest? Not try to stop them? And when they kill people we should do nothing?
What specifically is your solution to the attacks upon us? And the rest of the world?
So we should not have fought the Germans and the Axis powers....done nothing about the Soviet Union and it repressions.....
You are very interesting. Can't place you as a mindless liberal, or a rabid fascist, combining as you do the worst of both in one entitiy. You sound kind of like an Obama supporter, but he's the one sending the troops to the ME, so that can't be the case. Ron Paul comes to mind.....and he's been marginalized, so maybe you are feeling the same?
You might ask yourself why, if it is SO bad here, that we take in more refugees (1,000,000 plus) a year than the rest of the world combined? Why do they want to come to this repressive, militaristic, imperialistic country? Must be something in the air, maybe????
Study some history- start with the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire by Gibbon, and work your way up.
Lastly, if WE are doing so badly, name a country that is doing better in world affairs, better than us.
You must have an idea.....or maybe not.
Get back to us-I'll be checking.
Just more proof the cowardly militants will try to hide anywhere they think is safe. Look at the pictures of the terrorists crossdressing to avoid detection, hiding in mosques, girls schools and under the noses of the Pakistani military (in five houses, with fourteen family members for nine years!). The Pakis do not care about getting rid of the terrorists, and seem to be supporting them and training them. Just turn India loose on Pakistan and let them clean up the cesspool of corruption and ignorance that has baan plaguing the world since the two countries split.
Just more proof that the US government does not differentiate between "suspects" and the "guilty".
Just more proof that jacksonc knows little about the politics and demographics of the region and that all the tribes in the area are militants and a westerner wouldn't last 5 minutes without loosing their head regardless of their affiliation.
It's obvious that those demands have fallen on death ears. Mr Obama promised to pursue the terrorists wherever they go; and is, so far, keeping that promise.
"We have met the terrorists and they are us!" What now? We bomb NYC and make nasty like the United Snakes (US/Israel/NATO) are doing in AF/PAK?
Finished off by Hellfire, and to Hell fire they go. Good riddance!
This will only make our relationship with Pakistan worse!
...like I give a @!$%#......all the pakis deserve from us is a hard time....
I think you have to take what the Pakistani government publicly portrays, with a grain of salt. Ask yourself just where these drone flights were initiated from? We have or had at least six publicly known bases right in Pakistan where these drones flew from. Probably others we don't know about. Think these were there without the Pakistani government approval? Late last year the Pakistanis publicly demanded that the CIA leave one of these bases after a NATO air strike killed a couple dozen Pakistani soldiers mis-identified near the Pakistan/Afghanistan border. We left there. But that was just one base. They didn't say get out of every one nor did they mention where the equipment and personnel were going.
The Pakistani government really has little use for these militants. They pose a threat to the government. No doubt they have used these guys in the past for tactical reasons related to India as well as to help support some influence in Afghanistan, but they also know they can't trust them. Pakistan is a very divided country with some looking for a pluralistic more secular society with a world view, while others want a very ideological religious based country. The Pakistani government walks a very fine line with its people. It's government is pretty fragile. It would not be in our best interests to see Pakistan's control fall into the hands the radical militants.
We ask them to go out and kill these terrorist trouble makers, but we forget that if they conduct all out war on them, that would be an all out war against its own citizens, who in fact have the support of many within the country. Imagine if the US military conducted air strikes in Texas against far right strongholds. To some extent, that is what we are asking Pakistan to do. What is worse though is that the areas that these militants hang out in is pretty much a no mans land with very difficult terrain and where the militants have very strong control of. Military ground missions into this territory can not be conducted quickly or unnoticed. The militants can see them coming far in advance which allows them to either disappear of prepare for ambushes.
When the Pakistani government does try to crack down on these guys, it isn't very well received by the general Pakistani population, many of whom support the militants. Combine that issue with the fact that parts of the Pakistani military have strong ties to the militants who they have used for what they believe to be protecting Pakistan's own security. Pakistan's leadership must struggle with balancing all these factors while attempting to protect its own security without creating a full scale civil war within the country. Somewhat in Pakistan's favor, the militant types for the most part dominate specific rural regions while the more secular population dominates the cities. In that regard, the militants are somewhat contained. But they also have contingents in the cities and they do create havoc there too. Recently there was some information leaked that parts of the military were planning a coupe against the ruling powers. The Pakistani government has to struggle with maintaining the support that it does have and they can lose that support if they play too strong a role suppressing the militants. So it is in their own best interests to create a lot of bluster and public statements against the US, even when they may be privately being cooperative.
When we conducted our covert war against the Soviets in Afghanistan, Pakistan provided a lot of support to us. But once the Soviets left, so did we, leaving some parts of the Pakistani government to deal with the consequences of helping us. The Pakistanis don't trust us and we don't trust them, but we have used each other for decades. Being too friendly with the US would not be good politically for the Pakistani government, but they also can benefit from our help in many ways that helps protect their position of power. The thing is that they need to cooperate in an uncooperative manner.
One needs to keep in mind that the Pakistani military is not really stone age like some people think. They are reasonably capable. If they wanted to stop drone attacks by shooting down the drones, it really wouldn't be all that difficult. If they wanted to kick us out of every base or location that we work with them at, it would be simple to do so. We are there with their permission and cooperation. But in the big picture for the Pakistani government, it is much better that any cooperation be kept fairly quiet and when brought to light, be portrayed as bullying by the US.
The difficulty for us is to trust our leaders in the efforts they make which can't be publicly shared with everyone, because doing so would destroy the cooperation that occurs. In some respects we can be more successful if the relationship remains publicly controversial. What we need to do is just look at the raw results and determine if they are what we want. Make no mistake, these militants are our enemies, they put in an enormous effort to kill our troops. So dead militants are a positive result. At least for now when we have troops in harms way. What happens when we withdraw from Afghanistan is anybody's guess. Does the Taliban focus on its local issues and forget about us? Maybe, and that's actually likely for the most part. But, do they align themselves with terrorist factions with more global intent for the assistance they provide in the local goals? Very possible. That is what put Al Qada there in the first place. Are all factions of the Taliban just focused on the region or do some have bigger goals in mind? I think there is evidence that some factions would take advantage of free reign to plot their bigger goals that involve us. We don't really know, but for now, we need to be content with dead enemy combatants.
We trust a country like Pakistan with nuclear weapons? The country is still deciding if it wants to be ruled by extremists or moderates. The military is unreliable because it supports extremists. Extremists with a nuclear weapon, the world has the same problem with Pakistan as it is about to have with Iran.
pjacksonc- suggest you buy a ticket, go to Pakistan, and check to see just WHO is guilty. Let us know.
BTW, you probably won't need the return.
1newday- VERY well said - probably the most erudite post in here on tdhis subject in a LONG time.
My big problem is that for the $8 Billion a year we give them , they should be able to complain all they want, but NOT interfere with our convoys. The Pak people have to learn that we will NOT be attacked without a response, and the fastestd way to get rid of us is to turn in their fellow extremist brethren. Yes, I know they are all related, and it is hard to do. But when it comes down to your cousisn getting your family killed, or stopping him, what are you going to do?
Most people in Germany during WWII were not Nazis, but they all had to pay the price because of the evil of the ruling party. Same situation in Pakistan.
Good going with the drone attack. Those terrorists don't believe in females, of any age, getting an education, so they can claim, but we know, there was no girls in that school. Can't wait to see the Paki complaint about invading their airspace.
If they would step up and get rid of these terrorists, we wouldn't be invading their airspace.
Paki's can go to hell ... I'm tired of this $hit.
Pakistan's aid should be terminated unless they can prove that they are taking a hard line against "extremists" in their own country.
BTW, we will not be seeing the end of this type reporting.....especially Bin Laden's termination.
Notice that the Liberal media has Seal Team Six's operation all over the airways because his termination was the ONLY POSITIVE thing done by Mr. Obama since he took officer three years, three months, and nine days ago. Bin Laden's termination is going to be the cornerstone of Mr. Obama's 2012 campaign since he cannot discuss his failed agenda.
@ido:
Bro take a chill pill flip flop mittens has no agenda to go on, so before complaining about some one else's back yard you better clean up your own. also get you facts straight and inform all of us just what mittens polices are and put up of shut up
Ido,I couldn't help but notice that during Bush's eight stolen years in office the only positive achievement accomplished by him and his adminstration was the "Mission Accomplished" fiasco staged on an Aircraft Carrier. Of course the mission wasn't accomplished until well after Obama took office. Of course when you listen to Faux News........news of this sort never enters your ears.
Zingtooo ... may a drone climb up your a$$ and vaporize it.
Are the drones the right tool, or just one of those overrated weapons...
The other point is these drone attacks can hurt US -pakistan relations which are still vital in 'War on Terror.'
Militants setting up shop in a school. How much more obvious can it get that the Pakistanis are not at all concerned?
*OWNED* :)
Why don't they just say that this is another war we're involved in? What are we doing there now that we've gotten bin Laden? It's about oil and all the wealth for the private and military contractors such as Halliburton.
Yeah its all about oil huh Poet930? First of all there is no oil in Afghanistan, Pakistan or the region and there no plans for a pipeline anymore. Oh wait maybe you mean the other war... like IRAQ! Oh, wait....geez thats right, ALL the Iraqi oil contracts for drilling and refining went to the Russians and the Chinese.
What I don't understand is that why didn't we send another drone to fire on the militants that had gathered outside the school after the first attack? A missed opportunity?
The 'Ugly AmeriKKKan' syndrome - like Santa Claus. "It's all over!"
This is an insult and a direct challenge to Pakistans' sovereignity. Pakistan needs to summon he U.s. ambassador and contact the President and issue an ultimatum: any more attacks on Pakistani territory will result in a complete break in diplomatic relations, the Pakistani military firing upon any U.S. aircraft violating Pakistani airspace, and a pakistani announcement that they will provide nuclear protction for other countries in the region threatened by the U.S. military or Israel including Iran.
A nation with nukes doesn't need to plead to anyone. One small tactical artillery nuke on US CIA HQ's in Pakistan - sez it all!"
Retired Floridian- I can tell your not from FL and I guess with your age your getting senile. Your post just won. You are the #1 moron on this site.
Retarded Floridian....how is it violating Pakistan's sovereignty when they cant even police or govern the region? Seriously...their troops are afraid to occupy the FATA (Federally Administered Tribal Areas) and the militias that work along the border help the Pakistani Taliban infiltrate into the Afghanistan for the sole purpose of launching attacks on US and ANA forces. You might want to check your facts.
@ cowboy...if you could use attack cia hq..how come you havent done it...??? how come u have'nt shot down even one drone..????? u r not fooling anyone here paki...and u r in pak and not in az..stop pretending..hahaha
FOLKS! Calm down! Floridian has the answer!
We break off relations with the Paks- they declare war with us, we eliminate their military in about 2 days, then own the country! $8 Billion a year in savings! Good target practice!
If they want to go nuke, - well, we have about 2700 left, just sitting around! Islamabad would be a glass ashtray!
Yowza!
Spec Ops and Drones, keep the fear of who ever in em. Bring the rest home.
I would never encourage the killing of another human being, that being said, when there is a war on, there will be collateral damage at the same time you are trying to bring an end to and reduce the number of ones who can cause problems. I remember reading in a tabloid, where a teacher or former teacher in that region said, "You might as well drop a bomb on the whole country, destroying everyone and then start over, because as long as there is someone big enough to hold a gun, the problem will always remain".
The way you put it WTC was collateral damage for the US arming and financing Jewish terrorism. (More thruth than poetry, I admit). We didn't learn anything from that bloody lesson, did we Pilgrim? If someone had invaded America - American's would be resisting just like the Taliban - so quitcherbichen, AmeriKKKa?!!!
AZ Cowboy is just that a boy with an unatural interest in bull.
Az Cowsh*t, has a problem with Jews. I am starting to think he is one of those middle eastern types who immigrated here claiming political asylum. Probably working at a Jiffy Mart or Liquor Store in AZ. Hates everything the U.S. stands for but reaps all the benefits. I could be wrong, but i dont think so.
Totally different than that TheAZCowBoy, Tombstone, AZ.
Taliban in Afghan isn't from the country 90% of the time~ There-for saying if someone invaded the U.S. we would be like the Taliban would be wrong cause we'd be the resistance.. Ever see the game Homefront??? Exactly like that or the movie Red Dawn.
One's fighting would be Americans, not a multi-national ethic group.
Squall- Yeah, but with 300,000,000 guns in 64,000,000 registered gun owners hands (let alone the UN- registered ones!) they'd have a problem.
Exactly why the Japs didn't invade during WWII- they knew it would be hopeless.
This is how you fight the War on Terror....Technical superiority combined with the will to use force to kill suspected terrorists.....President Obama and his military advisors deserve credit for a strategy that minimizes the loss of American soldiers' lives and puts fear into the hearts of America's enemies.A strong,effective and smart Commander-in Chief......and....BTW...The Pakistanis are not America's friends...they take American money and then plot against us and our allies...very bad actors
We keep slaughtering AF/PAK's with our genocidal Predators - killing terrorist 'suspects' and 3/4's of them innocent civlians and we wonder why the AF/PAK people hate us. hummmm, we are dumber than we look, huh?
No, you are as dumb as your rants sound!!!!!!
The Paks....especially their intelligence agency....would do the USA serious harm. Defending yourself and your interests is not "slaughtering" with "genocidal predators". Genocidal slaughtering is what the Pakistani secret service engineered in The Mubai Hotel attacks.Sharing nuclear "how to" with North Korea is world threatening and aggressive.AZ Cowboy....live in the real world...it is a dangerous place and there are bad people.
ONE bomb could take care of the problem w Pakistan.
Its a well known fact that the Paki's host anti American terrorist cells.
Our Soldiers are being killed because of these animals..
When are we going to stop playing ball w these lunatics and show them that we mean business?
War crimianl AmeriKKKa is getting what it deserves. It's war addiction seems unquenchable and from here on in its 'wall-to-wall' little silver coffings making haste towards Dover AFB, where they've had to add a 3rd shift for checking in the dead 'baby killer' patriots.
Oh yea.. cause nuclear fallout in the region would be so great..
AZCowboy needs to move to Pakistan...he would find his worthless rant more pleasing to their ears than ours. If you love the region so much, Ill buy you a one-way ticket to Kabul where you can take the Kyber Pass into the border area and we will see how long you last.
I have a ranch in Tora Bora for sale. Special price for the cowboy.
Well, after catching the Great Satan in a thousand lies after it murders innocents around the world we can only surmise that 'Rogue AmeriKKKa' is asking for WTC II and maybe even WTC III on the West coast. (WTC 1 in Tel Aviv might be a nice new addition, this new time arounf, huh. folks?) I mean, 'an eye for an eye' isn't that what the United Snakes (US/Israel - 'God's CHOSEN, they insist, though the world has its druthers at this point in this criminal game of genocide and war crimes these killers practice all over the world?) Yassar, Reverend Wright, "You we're soooo right!' "God damn AmeriKKKa!" (The land of the cowardly baby killers).
It sounds that you're unhappy here cowboy, at least your free to move the heck out of this country and find one that you are more happier in! Good ridance...............
I'm willing to bet that you are not even an American at all, probably some Taliban guy who has cumputer acess....
If you dislike America so much get out! Jackass!!!!!!
paki...just go back under ur rock...ur comments are meaningless..its just a bunch of abusive words...if you pakis had any shame u would have shot down one drone...but instead u just beg.....u have nothing to say..so go vaccum ur prayer mat...
Math..gotta agree, let India handle this worthless, corrupt, backward country, get all of our people out of there now! And.....keep the drones flying!!!!
amen
Remote controlled attacks by drones continue to provide the mullahs with material to encourage more terrorists and suicide bombers as this demonstrates such attacks as inhumane. We lose the moral high ground by making everyone a suspect and attack without a declaration of war. We need not wonder why America is portrayed as an enemy by many when we attack whoever and whenever we want. Should Al-Quaeda simply gather in another country like Turkey or Saudia Arabia do we send in the drones there as well? Does it make sense to make undeclared war with the world? "By their fruits shall ye know them." And how will the world come to know America?
Bring the troops home and quit providing guerrillas with targets.
What was the excuse BEFORE the drones were started? Weren't any drones in '93 for the WTC bombing, and then again on 911.
Kind of like we weren't bombing Japan before they attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Figure it out.
i read this article and what i see are the tribal leaders who are allied with the taliban and despise the thought of womann learning n e thing took advantage of another c.i.a. screw up. the c.i.a. offers money to these people to rat out others as terrorists and take it as valid information. So right now some tribal leaders puffin on his hookah and laughin his ass off rollin in american dollars at the sight of a womans school being destroyed and the locales blaming it on the americans. the taliban get u.s.dollars to buy weapons to give the families of the dead school girls an they fight for them against the american dogs. pretty f'd up really...
Ok. Here it is in a nutshell. The Pakistan government hid Osama Bin Laden.There is no way he could've hid there without their knowledge.We apparently found out so I am sure they could've if they didn't know already. Anyway, I am just saying that we need to stop pussy footing around and kill all the so called militants. Which are really a bunch of lousy cowards who hide behind hankerchiefs. Also stop allowing those foriegners come in here and take our tax dollars and fund their so called cause.
Increase the pressure! Find more targets of opportunity! Pakistan has been harboring and giving safe haven to terrorists while collecting billions of U.S. taxpayer dolllars. Take out the Haquanni's, its time to collect all debts owed. Let the State Dept. appologize. Meanwhile the Dept of Defense will take care of business.
Spoken like a typical member of the elite war criminal's of AmeriKKKa 'klub' that have inherited this 'Kill 'em all, let God sort them out' Vietnam metality. Better read Psalm 145:20. It speaks of this unspeakable evil that envelopes this murderous 'war addicted' country and what Jehovah intends to do about it.
I dont want to kill them all. Just the bad ones. I can live with some collateral damage. I might just define you as one of "bad ones"! Say a prayer for me while i put some steel on target! Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammuntion!
OOOHHH! Looks like the Westboro Baptist Church has a branch in Tombstone!
AZ: what do you mean by "cowboy"?
My brother-in-law IS one, but he doesn't have an affinity for them.
Just checking, valuing diversity.....
OK Jewish MSNBC minders, you LOVE the simpletons and hate (and trash) the DEEP THINKERS that post on your raggedy site. Goes to show the world just how sick AmeriKKKa really is. This AmeriKKKan 'Nuk'em mentality' shows everyone just what a sick society we have become, ever since Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia (Mai Lai's 'butcher' Lt. Frances Kelly for US prez in November!) - and now Gaza, and AF/PAK. Better go to church/synogogue later today and beg forgiveness - then go look for a better job at Burger King!
and yet its u pakis that are begging from everyone...from USA from china and now even from afgahnistan and india...hahhahaa...and if you had any pride you would have shot down one drone at least in the past 10 years..hahahhah
AZ cowgirl, please post an address where i can place crosshairs on you :)
i served during vietnam, and never killed any babies, but i DID KILL !
you got the balls for it TROLL ?
and as fro your mentiuoning religion, more people have been killed through out history in the name of whatever 'god' happened to be fashionable at the time, than for any other reason.
so shove your superstion where the sun don't shine !!!
sorry for all the typos, ran out of edit time
STEVE-better dial it down, or the moderators will get their panties in a twist....the libs can spew all they want, but if you complain, they will shut you down. Right Sally? I'm thinking about filing a complaint with the FCC about all of this "moderation".
Anyway, I love it when people mention My Lai - what they ignore is that was a one or two time thing for our guys under pressure, but a WEEKLY occurrance for the VC/NVA trying to control the populace. 450 people a week weree killed, maimed, or kidnapped by the VC during the whole course of the war, but you never hear a peep from the left about that....
Apparently it's OK for the enemy to be nasty all the time, but our guys can NEVER lose control no matter how bad it gets. And, it's usually the REMFs doing all the complaining while they are watching CBS (or MSNBC, in this case...) . They're just seditionists cloaking themselves in the flag - their beliefs are what you scrape off your shoe after a trip to the dog park. But they don't, and never will, get it.
If you REALLY want to hear about something, look up "Operation Speedy Express" - 10K dead - but the reporters weren't there to make their reputation about it.
hey Rit,
you notice 'cowgirl' never came back to 'chat' with me, lmao.
like i said,a TROLL
and i guess the moderators decided i managed to stay on the 'good' side of the line .
but wouldn't be the first time they deleted me .
The world is coming to an end soon anyways.So just nuke em and then repent.
I love the fact that the drones are still circling (like vultures) to stop any rescue. Well if the fire keeps burning they won't be able to bury them in 24 hrs. just let the wind disperse the ashes.
If they can't be buried within 24 hours does that mean they lose out on the virgins deal? Ohhhhhh, they will be pissed!