President Obama goes to Afghanistan to sign post-war agreement

President Obama speaks from Afghanistan about the post-war deal he just signed with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

President Barack Obama and Afghan President Hamid Karzai signed an agreement that provides a framework for a lasting U.S. commitment to Afghanistan after the long and unpopular war comes to an end.

Standing in front of Afghan and U.S. flags, Obama and Karzai signed the Strategic Partnership Agreement just after midnight local time. Obama called it "a historic moment for our two nations," adding that the deal with Afghanistan allows the U.S. to wind down the war, but still stand by Afghanistan and its people.

"Neither Americans nor the Afghan people asked for this war, yet for a decade we've stood together," Obama said. "Today, with the signing of the strategic partnership agreement, we look forward to a future of peace. Today we're agreeing to be long term partners."


Karzai says the postwar agreement will seal an "equal partnership" between Afghanistan and the United States. According to pool reports, Karzai thanked the United States for helping the people of Afghanistan.

Obama and Karzai signed the agreement at the presidential palace in Kabul shortly after the U.S. president arrived in Afghanistan on Tuesday on an unannounced visit.

The partnership spells out the U.S. relationship with Afghanistan beyond 2014, covering security, economics and governance. The deal is limited in scope and essentially gives both sides political cover: Afghanistan gets its sovereignty and a promise it won't be abandoned, while the U.S. gets to end its combat mission but keep a foothold in the country.

"When it comes to an enduring U.S. presence, President Obama has been clear: we do not seek permanent military bases in Afghanistan," a statement from the White House said. "Instead, the Strategic Partnership Agreement commits Afghanistan to provide U.S. personnel access to and use of Afghan facilities through 2014 and beyond."

The agreement opens the possibility for continued training of Afghan forces and targeted operations against al-Qaida, which is present in neighboring Pakistan but has only a nominal presence inside Afghanistan.

President Barack Obama is in Kabul to sign a 10-year security agreement with Afghanistan. NBC's Chuck Todd and Jim Miklaszewski report.

Obama planned to be on the ground for about seven hours in Afghanistan, where the United States has been engaged in war for more than a decade following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The trip carries major symbolic significance for a president seeking a second term and allows him to showcase what the White House considers the fruit of Obama's refocused war effort: the killing a year ago of 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden.  

Air Force One touched down late at night local time at Bagram Air Field, the main U.S. base here.   

Media traveling with Obama on the 13-hour flight had to agree to keep it secret until Obama had safely finished a helicopter flight to the nation's capital, Kabul, where Taliban insurgents still launch lethal attacks.   

For Afghans, death of bin Laden hasn't ended their problems

Obama will also give a speech designed to reach Americans in the U.S. at 7:30 p.m. ET.

His war address will come exactly one year after special forces, on his order, began the raid that led to the killing of bin Laden in Pakistan.   

Kevin Lamarque / Reuters

President Barack Obama shakes hands with U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan Ryan Crocker upon his arrival at Bagram Air Base in Kabul, Afghanistan May 1, 2012.

Since then, ties between the United States and Afghanistan have been tested anew by the burning of Muslim holy books at a U.S. base and the massacre of 17 civilians, including children, allegedly by an American soldier.   

Obama's overarching message will be that the war is ending on his watch but the U.S. commitment to its ally is not.  

Read the transcript of Obama's remarks from Bagram Air Base

Politics, too, set the tone for what the White House hoped would be a positive message and image for Obama: the commander in chief setting a framework to end the war while reassuring Afghanistan, on its soil, it will not be abandoned.   

At home, Obama's Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, has retorted to the Obama campaign's suggestion that Romney might not have gone after bin Laden as Obama did.   

Bin Laden in hiding: Hatching horrific plots despite crippling attacks on al-Qaida

"Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order," Romney said of the Democratic president ousted after one term.    Obama has tried to portray inconsistency in Romney's position on the merits of targeting bin Laden. Without mentioning Romney by name, Obama has said he has been consistent and if others have not, "let them explain it."   

Obama aides said the anniversary of bin Laden's killing is not a focus of the trip. But they do not mind that Obama's mission will serve as a reminder, six months before Election Day.   

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., released a statement saying he was pleased the president had traveled to Afghanistan to hear directly from the troops on the ground about the progress made there. McCain said there is a need for the United States to remain engaged in Afghanistan in the coming years.

"I hope the President's speech tonight will emphasize the degree of our commitment in Afghanistan, rather than the plans for withdrawal," McCain added.

More than 1,800 U.S. forces have been killed and 15,700 more have been wounded in Afghanistan.   

The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq combined have cost almost $1.3 trillion. And public support for keeping troops in Afghanistan seems lower than ever.   

Obama has gone twice before to Afghanistan as president, most recently in December 2010, and once to Iraq in 2009. All such trips, no matter how carefully planned, carry the weight and the risks of considerable security challenges. Just last month, the Taliban began near-simultaneous assaults on embassies, government buildings and NATO bases in Kabul.   

Still, it would have been unusual for Obama to sign the "strategic partnership" agreement without Karzai at his side.   

Nearly a year after Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. forces, President Barack Obama, Admiral Mike Mullen, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke exclusively to NBC's Brian Williams and reflected on the raid. The hour-long special, 'Inside the Situation Room,' airs Wednesday, May 2 at 9pm/8c on NBC's Rock Center.

The deal is essential for locking in America's commitment and Afghan's sovereignty when the post-war period comes. Negotiations have dragged as Afghan officials have demanded specific assurances, financial and otherwise.   

Want a bin Laden brick? Pieces of Abbottabad compound sell for a nickel

Both sides have scrambled to get a deal before the NATO conference in Chicago later this month. Negotiators seemed to clear the way for Obama and Karzai by finding agreement over the conduct of night raids and authority over detainees.   

The president was to travel back from Kabul to the Bagram base to spend some time with troops.   

He was then to give his speech in a straight-to-camera delivery reminiscent of an Oval Office address, before flying back to the U.S. He is expected back in Washington on Wednesday afternoon.   

The United States has 88,000 troops in Afghanistan. An additional 40,000 in coalition forces remain from other nations.   

Obama has already declared that NATO forces will hand over the lead combat role to Afghanistan in 2013 as the U.S. and its allies work to get out by the end of 2014.   

One important unsettled issue, however, is how many U.S. troops may remain after that.   

U.S. officials are eying a residual force of perhaps 20,000, many in support roles for the Afghan armed forces, and some U.S. special forces for counterterror missions. The size and scope of that U.S. force -- if one can be agreed upon on at all, given the public moods and political factors in both nations -- will probably have to be worked out later in a separate agreement.   

Nearly a year after Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. forces, President Barack Obama spoke exclusively to NBC's Brian Williams inside the Situation Room and reflected on the raid. The full report airs Wed., May 2 at 9pm/8c on NBC's Rock Center.

Support for keeping American troops in Afghanistan is dropping all along the political spectrum, a new Pew Research poll says. And just 38 percent of people say the military effort is going well, down from 51 percent only a month ago.   

Overall, polling shows, Obama gets favorable marks compared to Romney in handling terrorism, and the president's public approval for his handling of the Afghan war has hovered around 50 percent of late.   

The trip allows Obama to hold forth as commander in chief in the same week he plans to launch his official campaign travel with rallies in Virginia and Ohio.   

"We've spent the last three-and-a-half years cleaning up after other folks' messes," Obama said at a fundraiser last weekend. "The war in Iraq is over. We're transitioning in Afghanistan. Al-Qaida is on the ropes. We've done what we said we'd do."

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LQQK after the massacre of that Afganistan village Karzi wanted the US Troops OUT! This is nothing but an eviction of US troops disquised as a Troop Withdrawl to make The Current President LQQK simply marrrrrrvoolous to anti was constiutents, to get their vote in the next election

    Reply#417 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:10 PM EDT

    This entire tact he has taken in the last week is not appreciated. I don't think it's fair for him to use Bin Laden's death in the campaign. He can have some of the credit but in truth I think that President Bush did a lot of heavy lifting early on. Yes, it happened on his watch, but I don't know if what he did really was such that he should use it in the campaign.

    Speaking of campaigning. I have to say that I do take issue with him traveling as much as he is. I happen to see a special recently about what is involved when the President decides to travel somewhere. Unbelievable. It must cost $50 million each time he goes somewhere. It is seriously many many millions of dollars. All on the tax payer's dime so he can campaign. He tries to say he isn't campaigning when he uses Air Force One but lately you would have to be an idiot to buy into that. It's all just cheap theatrics. Anything to stay in office.

      Reply#418 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:10 PM EDT

      He can have some of the credit but in truth I think that President Bush did a lot of heavy lifting early on. Yes, it happened on his watch, but I don't know if what he did really was such that he should use it in the campaign.

      Why do you think that? Sure, some of the homework from the Bush administration contributed to the decision to go Abbottabad, but it was Obama that made the toughest decision of all, and the exact same decision that Bush failed to make nine years earlier in Tora Bora.

      How can you look at those two decisions and credit Bush for any meaningful responsibility for the outcome?

        #418.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

        Tim and Jim--Here's a succinct report of how the Bush administration handled Tora Bora. (I use the term "administration" intentionally because there's not much evidence that GW was personally involved). See http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Tora_Bora_Report.pdf.

          #418.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:49 PM EDT
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          I wonder just how much US $ that Obama promised to send them every year? OK what is happing is he is taking form the poor in this country and giving to the rich in that third world country. And no I won't guess how much the terrorist will get. Good job Obamanation !!! Keep sucking up.

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          Reply#419 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:10 PM EDT

          It's not like they didn't have a chance to take pics, after all, they had alleged 'control' of the body. Else how did it get buried at sea? I call BS on the whole episode.

            Reply#420 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:11 PM EDT

            JB, you probably still call BS on Obama's birth certificate. Since there is no changing your mind, I won't lose any sleep over what you believe or don't believe. If Osama bin Laden could refute claims of his death, he would have. It would have been a HUGE victory for Al Qaeda. His silence spoke volumes, and so did Al Qaeda's admission that he was dead. However, you are not listening. Whatever!

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            #420.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

            Every Republican leader (I use that term lightly) HAS SEEN the pictures!

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            #420.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:57 PM EDT
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            The only thing I want to hear from our wonderful intelligent government leaders is, BRING OUR TROOPS HOME ALONG WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS AND START PUTTING OUR OWN COUNTRY TOGETHER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!. To hell with Afghanistan and the people that live there who hate our guts. Lets spend our money right here at home where it will be appreciated and needed a hell of a lot more.

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            Reply#421 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

            Buddy Rhoemer, Gary Johnson, Jill Stien

              Reply#422 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

              Mitt flat out said on video he would not use drones or go after terrorists in Pakistan without notifying them first because, hey, that's what friends are for. And NOW he lies again and says he WOULD have gone after Bin laden anyway without their consent or knowledge, just like Obama did. That SOB is a serial, psychotic, flip flopper. Hell he flip flops more than the busiest hooker in Vegas. The disingenuous bastard flip flops my stomach. It's like trying to pin down a greased pig

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              Reply#423 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

              I'm filled with absolute disgust! 2024???? AND at the US taxpayers expense. I'm ready to give up!!! How much is enough for Washington???

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              Reply#424 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:15 PM EDT

              2014...calm dude.

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              #424.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

              2024? The GOP might win the White House, that year!

                #424.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:58 PM EDT
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                You guys don't get it. Publicly Karzai says he wants us out. Privately, he doesn't want us to leave him having to deal with the Taliban all by himself. He wants our money and our help, and we want to use his land to spy on our enemies, so he will get our money and our help.

                  Reply#425 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:16 PM EDT

                  Congratulations, again and again, to B.O. for taking out Osama and, thereby, cleaning up Clinton's mess. Also, a shout out to Seal Team Six for their miniscule role in support of B.O.'s heroism.

                    Reply#426 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:17 PM EDT

                    Poor troops ....

                    Will have to come home to Obama's Greece like debt and deficit ....

                    And the least home ownership in 15 years ....

                    And still no reduction in food stamp recipients ....

                    Obama has Afghanistan looking as good as America ....

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                    Reply#427 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:17 PM EDT

                    Give Obama another term... he'll have Afganistan looking better than US!

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                    #427.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

                    vote gop...save corporate welfare now!

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                    #427.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:20 PM EDT
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                    @ USA/Canuck

                    I've searched all the major news networks and haven't found where it's "all over the news" that the troops are complaining.

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                    Reply#428 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

                    Do you really think that Barry's main-steam media would ever report that? Not.

                      #428.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                      I forgot about fox network, won't waste my time on that fair and balanced network. Fair and balanced my A$$"

                        #428.2 - Sun May 13, 2012 1:32 PM EDT
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                        I am OK with spending money to get our troops out of there while also protecting our country! President Obama is making moves to better America. No one seems to remember this country lost jobs, money and houses when big corporations sent countless American jobs overseas while Bush was in office. No one wanted blame Bush for 911 they brought the blame back to Clinton? Its amazing how people can fix their mouths to blame Obama when this country went on a downward spiral under Bush's Administration?

                        President Bush was disrespected in another country and yet here in America some people on this blog can disrespect President Obama. Its sad and childish. If you don't like President Obama's decisions say you don't agree. Why mess with his name or worst yet why call him anything other than President Obama? Grow up people your parents should have raised you better.

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                        Reply#429 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

                        President Obama goes to Afghanistan to sign post-war agreement

                        Does this mean he will be staying there?

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                        Reply#430 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

                        And once they took over again, the Taliban sent Karzai's head to Crawford, ground mail through the hot desert, just to make a point. And then they whacked off an arm on every former school girl who dared to diss them, our only remaining legacy there in the decades to come

                          Reply#431 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

                          The United States is making losing wars an elaborate production with speeches and ceremonies and signing documents. This country has not actually won a war in about 100 years. we almost won WWI and II, but we gave the land we took, back to the enemy! Then we helped them rebuild their countries as if we had just played a friendly game of chess. There would be no United States if we had used that policy against the Indians, but those were the days when war meant taking and keeping every thing of value that your vanquished enemy once owned. So today, after 3 trillion dollars, 10 years(!) and thousands of American lives lost and destroyed, President Obama announced that we lost another war. I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he meant. Did you feel that? We just slipped a little further behind the rest of the world.

                            Reply#432 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

                            If the GOP was in control, Osama would be alive and GM would be dead.
                            Who is looking out for the average American?
                            Hmmmmmmm.

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                            Reply#433 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:23 PM EDT

                            Obama will go down as the worst president in the history of history ....

                            Does anyone know how Obama's secret service made out with Afghan hookers .... ??

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                            Reply#434 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

                            Obama will probably be considered one of the best Presidents in all of our history.
                            Saving us from a deep Depression.
                            Ending two wars.
                            Creating an environment throughout the world where America is RESPECTED again instead of being ridiculed.
                            Turning the corner on energy independence.
                            Finally getting health care for the only industrial country that doesn't have universal health care, thus bringing down debt and bringing the country into the black in record time.
                            etc etc.
                            Big ideas, Big decisions, Big success'

                            GOP - Small ideas, obstruct decisions, failure as an idealogy.

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                            #434.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:37 PM EDT
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                            obozo says, I'm thinking of renameing new york...how does obozobad sound???

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                            Reply#435 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

                            obammy's one-hit wonerer: "I shot bin laden. " This poor excuse for a commander-in-chief needs to learn to give credit where credit is due. He has never worn a pair of boots let alone have them on the ground when bin laden was killed. He never shows disgust when American military personnel are killed by the people he just signed an agreement with. All he does is give them more money and apologize when their rag of a book quran gets burned. He even apologized when Afghanis were killing American troops because of the burning. He apologizes to his muslim brothers every chance he gets. I wonder how much more money he promised them today.

                            http://times247.com/pset/obama-s-one-hit-wonder/page/0

                            The only thing honorable this moron can do is step down, apologize to the American people for damaging America and make room for an American with the interests of America first to take the place of President of the United States of America.

                              Reply#436 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

                              That would be Mitt Romney??? Oh, yeah, he is all about helping the interests of America first. That's why he has the bulk of his assets in overseas bank accounts. He "loves" Americans alright--loves to fire them, just like Donald Trump. Maybe he will make the Donald his VP. One can only hope!!

                                #436.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

                                drk--Osama is dead, GM is alive. Get used to it. Oh, yeah, 24 plus straight months of job growth, Dow over 13000 (highest since 2007 today), Iraq war over, a rational plan for Afghanistan, Libya free without the loss of a single American life, illegal immigration down, deportations up, etc. etc. Meanwhile, his opponent criticizes Obama's stance on Bin Laden yesterday and praises it today, previously said chasing Bin Laden wasn't worth the time or money but now says he would have given the same order Obama did, offers a tax plan that will cut taxes on the very wealthy by over 6 percent while raising taxes on the poor and increasing the deficit by $600 billion annually. As for wearing boots, when Obama was of military age, we were at peace. In contrast, Romney was of age during Vietnam, supported that war, yet sought and obtained draft deferments so he could spend time in Paris. Frickin' Chickenhawk.

                                  #436.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:57 PM EDT

                                  alan, you're an idiot. How many jobs has obammy lost? Now he is financing projects in other countries. He is closing 100s of post offices. He is all for spending your money and mine on failed green energy projects. If the real unemployment and under employed number were ever published including those of us who have dropped out of the job maket the unemployment percentage would be more like 22%. Get real. He lies about anything and everything he thinks you ignorant liberals will believe so you will re-elect him. You liberals are so stupid to believe the @!$%# that comes out of his mouth. Why are you so in favor of socialism? It hasn't worked in any country thats tried it. Why are you so ignorant to think it will work in America. The only thing the redistribution of wealth accomplishes is it makes every body poor, just as Russia, Chian, North Korea, Cuba and any other country that failed under socialism.

                                    #436.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:03 PM EDT

                                    drk--Now if you just knew what socialism really is. If you knew, you would not accuse Obama or his supporters of favoring socialism. By the by, a limited form of socialism worked quite well for quite a long time in a number of Scandanavian countries. They, for example, never had a Great Depression. As for the rest, read my 436.2.

                                      #436.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:53 PM EDT
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                                      wonder what he gave away now

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                                      Reply#437 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                                      We will not know until after his reelection. "He will have more flexibility then".

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                                      #437.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:31 PM EDT
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                                      32 billion to afgas. to rebuild Mosques, and grease palms, there are Americans going to bed hungry tonite,..............where's the justice ???

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                                      Reply#438 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

                                      Where is your common sense bluelight?

                                      We are ending the war the only way it can be ended -- Even Honest John McCain is on board with Obama

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                                      #438.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                                      Vote Ron Paul.

                                        #438.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

                                        At least the US Congress is not bound to President Obama's unilateral treaties with Karzao

                                          #438.3 - Wed May 2, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

                                          lilian--Any more than it was bound by the executive agreements (technical term for international agreements between heads of state that aren't treaties) made by GW Bush with the president of Iraq or the executive agreements made by presidents throughout our history. By the way, there is no such thing as a "unilateral" treaty. A treaty is made between two or more states so is either bilateral or multilateral.

                                            #438.4 - Wed May 2, 2012 3:08 AM EDT
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                                            I missed obozo's speech...let me guess , uh uh uh me me me I I I

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                                            Reply#439 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:30 PM EDT

                                            ..and there was no hillary either

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                                            #439.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                                            Oh, did he speak tonight?

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                                            #439.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

                                            True, et al--I'm sure you can catch the rebroadcast on Fox. As usual, it was a well-delivered speech, with nods to Churchill and Lincoln's Second Inaugural. Seriously dudes, agree with him or not, Obama is an accomplished orator and to pretend otherwise shows that you can't be taken seriously.

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                                            #439.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:02 PM EDT

                                            Vet - obama is a good oralator.

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                                            #439.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

                                            7--How would you know? The man has some standards. But Mittens probably prefers straight missionary--that's what he preferred over military service during Vietnam.

                                              #439.5 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

                                              Vet, that was clever! I guess Barrys military service is better, ya got me! As for Barry being The Great Oralator, just look at his lips!

                                                #439.6 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

                                                7--We were at peace when Obama was of military age. We were at war when Romney was of military age. Romney spoke in favor of the Vietnam War but sought and obtained deferments. Frickin' Chickenhawk.

                                                  #439.7 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:41 PM EDT

                                                  If Barry would have been of age, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A BLACK PANTHER!

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                                                  #439.8 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

                                                  7--Are you sure that isn't in some Koch Brothers attack ad to be used in October?

                                                    #439.9 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:58 PM EDT

                                                    Obama did a real good job of reading from his teleprompter, he only stumbled a little more than half a dozen times.

                                                      #439.10 - Wed May 2, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

                                                      lilian--I'm sure you miss such gems as "Is our children learning," "They misunderestimated me," and "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office."

                                                        #439.11 - Wed May 2, 2012 2:47 AM EDT
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                                                        look at "O" like it was his plan and Idea Afghanistan and getting bin laden. I think "O" is shovel ready

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                                                        Reply#440 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

                                                        Obamas decision to give karzai money is totally stupid, everybody knows that Karzai, treats the United States as puppets, what ever side can be the most benefit for him is who he will kiss ass to, If we don't do what he wants, he will talk to al-quida or the taliban, or vice versa, we are going to spend more money than what we already have just to re- build a country that didn't have anything to begin with. Obama is still waisting taxpayers money and doing what-ever it takes for how ever-long it takes to bankrupt this country. It's time now to end oudr time over there. The afgan military in ten years has done nothing to get prepared to take over the responsility to defend their own @!$%#ry, so what makes anyone think they will do it in another 2 to 8 years. Get obama out of office in Novemver

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                                                        Reply#441 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:31 PM EDT
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