Clinton to tell India: Cut back on Iran oil

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U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton waves upon her arrival at the airport in Kolkata, India on Sunday.

KOLKATA, India - The United States will seek assurances that India will reduce its purchases of oil from sanctions-hit Iran during a visit by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to the South Asian giant this week, a senior U.S. official said on Sunday.

Clinton started a three-day trip to India on Sunday that will coincide with a visit by a large Iranian trade delegation, as India walks a tightrope of strengthening ties with ally the United States and sating its fast-growing energy needs.


She arrived in India from a 24-hour visit to Bangladesh, where NBC News reported that she visited the US Embassy in Dhaka to thank worker and expressed “hurt” at a local opinion poll that showed most people believe the U.S. is anti Muslim.

During her visit, Clinton will also make the case for the country to open its supermarket sector to foreign chains such as U.S. giant Wal-Mart Stores - a major economic reform that has stalled under Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's government.

India has publicly rejected Western sanctions but has pushed refiners to cut imports of oil from Iran by 15-20 percent - enough, it hopes, to win a waiver from Washington.

The United States in March granted exemptions to Japan and 10 European Union nations from its sanctions, which are aimed at pressuring Iran to end its nuclear programme. India and China, Iran's biggest buyers of crude, remain on a list at risk if they do not cut oil imports "substantially".

"Our assessment is India is making good progress but we really need to receive assurances that they are going to continue to make good progress," a senior U.S. official, travelling with Clinton, told reporters.

The 56-member trade delegation, led by the president of Iran's chamber of commerce, will also arrive on Sunday for another round of talks on how the two can trade via a rupee mechanism set up to skirt sanctions. A previous trade mission of Indian businesses to Iran in March had proved unproductive.

"These are not going to be strategic trades of any kind," the U.S. official said. "So I don't think that we are too concerned about this, but we'll obviously want to hear from the government what they see as the focus of this trade delegation."

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U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaks to students at the Dhaka International School in Dhaka, Sunday.

Relations between the United States and India have blossomed in recent years, especially during the presidency of George W. Bush, which signed a landmark civilian nuclear pact with India. But irritants, especially over trade and investment barriers, have raised temperatures of late.

Clinton arrives in India leaving behind her a stormy visit to China, which saw Beijing and Washington tussle over the fate of a blind Chinese human rights activist who had escaped 19 months of house arrest and fled to the U.S. embassy.

From Kolkata, Clinton will travel to New Delhi on Monday to meet Singh. Afghanistan and India's controversial proposals on retroactive taxation are likely talking points, Indian sources told Reuters last week.

Reuters contributed to this report.

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That explains why India wants Alberta oil that the U.S. don't want.

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Reply#27 - Sun May 6, 2012 9:58 AM EDT

Arrogance in display. India is a sovereign nation and its livelihood depends on affordable energy. US telling India to cut off Iranian oil consumption is akin to Pakistan telling US to cut off alcohol consumption. The relations will sour -India has a long history of neutrality (that's why they were capable of advancing from the real poverty to the road of some prosperity. Why is China amicable in letting Chen and family travel (after obtaining exit visa)to US- what did HRC promise in quid pro quo. Remember the financial strangling methods to toe the Obama/HRC line- Obama/US promised to include China in the list not to be on the sanctions list. HRC is telling the same line to India- but they have no quid pro quo like China/US. Were are all the real diplomats that used to make US the master diplomat?

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#27.1 - Sun May 6, 2012 10:23 AM EDT
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World policeman

We'll tell you how to live your life but you can't tell me how to live mine. This oil thing is such a case. So we tell India to stop using Iranian oil because Israel doesn't like it.

  • 6 votes
Reply#28 - Sun May 6, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

I was wondering when a gallon of gasoline would cost $5.00! Just in time for Labor Day! thanks HILLZ!!

  • 3 votes
Reply#29 - Sun May 6, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

Over 5.00 a gallon in some parts of Canada

    #29.1 - Sun May 6, 2012 10:08 AM EDT
    Reply

    hillary went out of town bill went to help the secret service find them hookers . go bill

    • 1 vote
    Reply#30 - Sun May 6, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

    Yup, go Bill.... Probably why this country is so Fu(ked up in the first place.... He was to busy cheating on his wife when Osama Bin Laden bombed the US COLE, now if Clinton wasn't to busy getting Pu$$y in the oval office, but went after bin laden.... we might not of had a 9/11... Take that democrats!

      #30.1 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:43 AM EDT
      Reply

      Hillary is getting Uglier and Uglier by the minute. She look's like an old hag. As far as telling India to use less oil from Iran, India should tell her to get lost. And why let wal mart into India?? The Wal Mart stores are just going to be filled with Junk from China, and India isn't too fond of China now as it is. Why give all the jobs in India to China like our business'es here in the U.S. did.

      • 6 votes
      Reply#31 - Sun May 6, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

      She Is A Psychopath That Fits Right In With The rest In Her Political Kind.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#32 - Sun May 6, 2012 10:32 AM EDT
      Comment author avatarTurk Mckenzievia Facebook

      Who we to tell any country who to buy from or not just arrogant we would be up in arms if another country told us who to buy from or not

      • 1 vote
      Reply#33 - Sun May 6, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

      Because the US is the biggest BULLY of the world, here we have a government that will tell the states that they can make their own laws, but when the states do, the FEDS still come in and arrest people for following state laws.... Take for example the cannabis Prohibition, here they are still letting states decide, but the feds still can come in and arrest you!!!! Talk about hypocrisy!!! Now I see why we have kids in our schools acting the way they do, they see daddy and mommy bullying the citizens of the United States and their kids think they can do the same in schools. Has anyone ever noticed kids who belong to cops, Fed agents, or even in politics... They all think that they don't have to answer for their actions for the fact they see their parents do the same! America is dead, its not who is the best for the position.... Its about who you know and how much money you have!!! FU(KING SAD!!!!

      • 4 votes
      #33.1 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:39 AM EDT
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      hillery, jenny craig is on line one.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#34 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

      America, big bully of the world.

      You better cut back buying Iranian oil, and you better open a SUPER Wal-Mart...talk about bull@!$%#....

      • 5 votes
      Reply#35 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

      How can anyone believe this spineless, coward, and immoral women named Hilary? For one the women couldn't leave her husband even after he was caught in the oval office cheating on her with Monica!!! No wonder everyone thinks its alright to cheat on your spouse!

      • 2 votes
      Reply#36 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

      Up untill the fall of USSR the only other superpower in the 90,s that made USA live in fear of nuclear war and MAD ( thanks to Senator charlie wilson, CIA and Pakistan as well as the freedom fighters that no longer is the case) India was the proxy of USSR and Pakistan was proxy to USA . true to our policies of forgetting our friends we abandoned Afghanistan and Pakistan as now India was more lucrative to our needs so our loyalties to Pakistanis and Afghanis did not matter for the losses they had suffered in order for us to achieve a NUCLEAR free sleep as USSr,s was the only missiles capable of striking us.India never did and nor will ever look it from our point of view. They were sheltering Iraqi assets including their airplanes while we were attacking Iraq ( pakistan had refused that sanctuary to Saddam ) so what makes you think India will change any ??

        Reply#37 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

        I think you are the only one who
        understand the history & the US=Pakistan
        struggle for the free world, but here is a problem, when govt change here the
        policies also diverts, the problem is we are so short of memories. India always
        get benefits of its size , & we are so stupid we ignore Latin America, we
        ignore Africa at the cost of India, SaudiArbia business with USA is 3 times
        higher than India despite the size, we are Ignoring Pakistan( which is a sort
        of Protective wall against aggression towards Muslims in Muslims mind) &
        the result is 1.5 billion Muslims ignore us not only that they that they are
        sitting on most of world energy resources. thanks unaware of the facts

        India fails to drive wedge between Pakistan
        Army

        and Pentagon: Cooperation growing

        After
        failing to kill the

        Kerry Lugar Bill, the Bharati (aka Indian) lobbies are out in full force trying
        hard to drive a wedge between the Pakistan Army and the Pentagon as well as attempting
        to cause friction between the Civilian Government and the Pakistani

        Military leadership. Spiffy news is one of most virulent Anti-Pakistani news site
        out there. This site and the lobbyists are now conjuring up the propaganda that
        the Pakistani Army is sparing the Anti-American insurgents while concentrating
        on the Anti-Pakistani elements. Duh! Its a matter of priorities. Pakistan
        faces Indian sponsored terror in its

        cities almost on a daily basis. The Army will go after those terrorists who are
        responsible for the bombs going off in Islamabad.

        The duty of the Pakistani Army is to go after Anti-Pakistani elements—not Anti-French,
        Anti-Korean and Anti-German elements. Those countries have the ware withal to
        deal with their enemies.

        A batter of rented writers

        are spewing their usual baloney against Pakistan
        and the valiant efforts of

        the Pakistani Army. The Pakistanphobes are busy writing their little stories.

        Here is Spiffy News and their usual claptrap. One the one hand, they are

        chagrined at the Pentagon’s eulogy which refutes Bharati claims, and on the

        other hand, they continue to sow seeds of dissention and doubt. Senator Kay Hagan of the

        India Caucus had come prepared to besmirch Pakistan.
        However the Foreign

        Relations Committee cleverly avoided to give her a microphone. Hagan and her

        Bharati sponsors went home very disappointed. The Spiffy goat droppings rehash

        old conspiracy theories which have been discredited and bunked by the US and also by Pakistan.
        Let's face it. When it comesto the Pentagon ,the Pakistani military can do no wrong. Even
        if it's going after only the Pakistani Taliban and not the Afghan Taliban, which it
        apparently continues to promote for strategic depth against India
        and as a hedge in case the US
        decides to cut and run as it did in the immediate aftermath of the erstwhile Soviet
        withdrawal from Afghanistannearly
        three decades ago. During the past few
        yearstop US military officers with direct command of American troops in
        Afghanistan and strategic policy toward Pakistan and the south and central
        Asian region,

        testifying before Congressional committees continued to heap praise on the

        Pakistani Army's forays against the Pakistani Taliban and extremist groups in

        the Swat Valley and South Waziristan. In
        the process they chose to conveniently ignore the concerns of US lawmakers
        about the dual-track policy by Pakistan Army Chief General Ashfaq Kiyani's troops and the
        Inter Services Intelligence. When pressed,
        they argued that the only way to address the Pakistani army hedging its bets
        was by providing Pakistan more security
        assistance and building up the kind of strategic partnership that assured it
        that this aid and US
        support would be there for the long haul.
        General David Petraeus, who was appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations

        Committee, was asked by the panel's chairman Senator John F Kerry as to what the
        US
        strategy was toward the Pakistani military that was clearly hedging its bets

        and going after only the Pakistani Taliban and not the Afghan Taliban. Petraeus
        said it is imperative for the US to demonstrate
        to Pakistan
        that a "sustained, substantial commitment" would be forever available.
        Petraeus said, "First of all, the developments of the last 10months
        really are quite significant. Because the Pakistani leadership -- all

        the political leaders, the civilian
        populace, the clerics and the military --have all united in recognizing that
        the internal extremists represent the most
        pressing existential threat to their country --
        more pressing than the
        traditional
        threat to the east. And, they have taken action in response to that
        recognition."

        But when pressed as to how

        Pakistan ultimately takes on the Afghan Taliban and eschews funding and

        promoting this group, the four-star general said, "Frankly, the effort to

        demonstrate a sustained, substantial commitment to Pakistan -- frankly the

        Kerry-Lugar bill (which provides $1.5 billion (about Rs 67,000 crore) annually

        in American largesse to Pakistan ( compare to Pakistan 3 Trillion loss in
        past three decades in infrastructure & economy)
        over five years)
        is
        a hugely important manifestation of that -- the level of security assistance,
        foreign military financing, the Pakistan Counter-Insurgency Capability Fund and
        so forth are also very important, given the history that we have with that
        country and

        having left it as you know a couple of times before." Earlier, Ret.
        General Mc.Chrystal, US Commander in Afghanistan, (his
        retirement also raise eye brows during
        the very productive days of bringing war into victory & end, many
        blame he is victim of Indian sponsored
        lobby)
        appearing
        before the Senate Armed Services Committee, also lavished praise on the
        Pakistani army saying that" their recent actions over the last year or two
        against their own internal insurgency are really a good indicator of just how
        serious they are about conducting counter-insurgency operations and reducing
        instability on their side."Even the US
        Ambassador to

        Afghanistan, and retired lieutenant general Karl Eikenberry, when asked

        pointedly about the Pakistani army's dual track when it came to taking on the

        Pakistan Taliban and sponsoring the Afghan Taliban for strategic depth

        vis-à-vis India, only acknowledged that "the security relationship between

        India and Pakistan has consequences for Afghanistan," but then said he

        would rather "concentrate of Afghanistan and Pakistan

        I think you are the only one who understand the history & the US=Pakistan struggle for the free world, but here is a problem, when govt change here the policies also diverts, the problem is we are so short of memories. India always get benefits of its size , & we are so stupid we ignore Latin America, we ignore Africa at the cost of India, SaudiArbia business with USA is 3 times higher than India despite the size, we are Ignoring Pakistan( which is a sort of Protective wall against aggression towards Muslims in Muslims mind) & the result is 1.5 billion Muslims ignore us not only that they that they are sitting on most of world energy resources. thanks unaware of the facts

        India fails to drive wedge between Pakistan Army
        and Pentagon: Cooperation growing

        After failing to kill the
        Kerry Lugar Bill, the Bharati (aka Indian) lobbies are out in full force trying hard to drive a wedge between the Pakistan Army and the Pentagon as well as attempting to cause friction between the Civilian Government and the Pakistani
        Military leadership. Spiffy news is one of most virulent Anti-Pakistani news site out there. This site and the lobbyists are now conjuring up the propaganda that the Pakistani Army is sparing the Anti-American insurgents while concentrating on the Anti-Pakistani elements. Duh! Its a matter of priorities. Pakistan faces Indian sponsored terror in its
        cities almost on a daily basis. The Army will go after those terrorists who are responsible for the bombs going off in Islamabad.
        The duty of the Pakistani Army is to go after Anti-Pakistani elements—not Anti-French, Anti-Korean and Anti-German elements. Those countries have the ware withal to deal with their enemies.

        A batter of rented writers
        are spewing their usual baloney against Pakistan and the valiant efforts of
        the Pakistani Army. The Pakistanphobes are busy writing their little stories.
        Here is Spiffy News and their usual claptrap. One the one hand, they are
        chagrined at the Pentagon’s eulogy which refutes Bharati claims, and on the
        other hand, they continue to sow seeds of dissention and doubt. Senator Kay Hagan of the
        India Caucus had come prepared to besmirch Pakistan. However the Foreign
        Relations Committee cleverly avoided to give her a microphone. Hagan and her
        Bharati sponsors went home very disappointed. The Spiffy goat droppings rehash
        old conspiracy theories which have been discredited and bunked by the US and also by Pakistan. Let's face it. When it comesto the Pentagon ,the Pakistani military can do no wrong. Even if it's going after only the Pakistani Taliban and not the Afghan Taliban, which it apparently continues to promote for strategic depth against India and as a hedge in case the US decides to cut and run as it did in the immediate aftermath of the erstwhile Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistannearly three decades ago. During the past few yearstop US military officers with direct command of American troops in Afghanistan and strategic policy toward Pakistan and the south and central Asian region,
        testifying before Congressional committees continued to heap praise on the
        Pakistani Army's forays against the Pakistani Taliban and extremist groups in
        the Swat Valley and South Waziristan. In the process they chose to conveniently ignore the concerns of US lawmakers about the dual-track policy by Pakistan Army Chief General Ashfaq Kiyani's troops and the Inter Services Intelligence. When pressed, they argued that the only way to address the Pakistani army hedging its bets was by providing Pakistan more security assistance and building up the kind of strategic partnership that assured it that this aid and US support would be there for the long haul. General David Petraeus, who was appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations
        Committee, was asked by the panel's chairman Senator John F Kerry as to what the US strategy was toward the Pakistani military that was clearly hedging its bets
        and going after only the Pakistani Taliban and not the Afghan Taliban. Petraeus said it is imperative for the US to demonstrate to Pakistan that a "sustained, substantial commitment" would be forever available. Petraeus said, "First of all, the developments of the last 10months really are quite significant. Because the Pakistani leadership -- all the political leaders, the civilian populace, the clerics and the military --have all united in recognizing that the internal extremists represent the most pressing existential threat to their country -- more pressing than the traditional threat to the east. And, they have taken action in response to that recognition." But when pressed as to how
        Pakistan ultimately takes on the Afghan Taliban and eschews funding and
        promoting this group, the four-star general said, "Frankly, the effort to
        demonstrate a sustained, substantial commitment to Pakistan -- frankly the
        Kerry-Lugar bill (which provides $1.5 billion (about Rs 67,000 crore) annually
        in American largesse to Pakistan ( compare to Pakistan 3 Trillion loss in past three decades in infrastructure & economy)over five years) is a hugely important manifestation of that -- the level of security assistance, foreign military financing, the Pakistan Counter-Insurgency Capability Fund and so forth are also very important, given the history that we have with that country and
        having left it as you know a couple of times before." Earlier, Ret. General Mc.Chrystal, US Commander in Afghanistan, (his retirement also raise eye brows during the very productive days of bringing war into victory & end, many blame he is victim of Indian sponsored lobby)appearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee, also lavished praise on the Pakistani army saying that" their recent actions over the last year or two against their own internal insurgency are really a good indicator of just how serious they are about conducting counter-insurgency operations and reducing instability on their side."Even the US Ambassador to
        Afghanistan, and retired lieutenant general Karl Eikenberry, when asked
        pointedly about the Pakistani army's dual track when it came to taking on the
        Pakistan Taliban and sponsoring the Afghan Taliban for strategic depth
        vis-à-vis India, only acknowledged that "the security relationship between
        India and Pakistan has consequences for Afghanistan," but then said he
        would rather "concentrate of Afghanistan and Pakistan

          #37.1 - Sun May 6, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

          Take some medication, and see a psychiatrist, psycho paki dude.....

          • 3 votes
          #37.2 - Sun May 6, 2012 8:02 PM EDT
          Reply

          When are we going to start to mind our own business and leave other countries alone? The things that we are doing for Israel, is unbelievable. What if India says to stop ALL aid to Israel, would the US accept that? Hey Clinton, just shut your trap and stop wasting taxpayer money. Why do I get the sense that many countries are tiring of the US and its overbearing demands? So once and for all Clinton, mind your own business you jerk!

          • 4 votes
          Reply#38 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

          Because America has become the Nazi's of the Modern World... instead of death camps we have prisons, that uses the gas chamber! If other nations don't do as we say, we sanction them! Starting to sound familiar isn't it? Next we will start seeing our tanks rolling into other countries who won't bow to us, wait that's already has transpired too!!! (Iraq, Afghanistan)

          • 2 votes
          #38.1 - Sun May 6, 2012 12:00 PM EDT
          Reply

          How about if we cut off all aid to India, restrict trade, and then let them trade with whoever the hell they want to trade with. The same with all of our other so called "allies".

          And tell me please what is the use of sanctions if you give everyone exemptions to the sanctions? Who is actually punished?

          US foriegn policy is so stupid and so is the typical US voter. How else could this lunacy continue since we keep voting politicians into office who continue it?

          • 1 vote
          Reply#39 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

          irate Ken, yes we keep voting in most of the same politicians that continue it, doesn't matter if they are an R or a D, This country needs to make the tariffs equal. What one country charges us, we charge them that same %.

          Any corporation that brings jobs back to the states gets huge tax cuts, the ones that don't, they pay more taxes, and the tariff on their products doubles. Either they, and the stockholders will support the USA, or get competely out, but the tariffs remain doubled.

          The only way the "don't matter deficit" is going to be taken under control is putting America back to work. Higher taxes on people isn't going to do it. It's time to invest in America, and people had better wake up to that fact. And if etchy sketchy wins, in a very short time we will be like Iran, living under a "supreme leader and the Mormom Church.

            #39.1 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:58 AM EDT
            Reply

            Critical times hard to deal with, will be here.

              Reply#40 - Sun May 6, 2012 11:58 AM EDT

              U.S.: "Hey, you, India...stop taking Iran's oil."

              India: "Ok, no problem. We'll just take a half dozen tankers per day from Saudi Arabia that were originally bound for the U.S. No problem at all."

              • 3 votes
              Reply#41 - Sun May 6, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

              Is she starting to look like a cross between Charles Krauthammer and Alfred E Neuman or what?

                Reply#42 - Sun May 6, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

                Actually if you just put a wig on Alan Greenspan.....

                  Reply#43 - Sun May 6, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

                  What pressure did she put on China? "Stop buying oil from Iran or we'll quit borrowing money from you"

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#44 - Sun May 6, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

                  Clinton to India - Cut back on Iran oil

                  India to Clinton - Are you and Bill still actually married or what?

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#45 - Sun May 6, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

                  Why would India listen to Obama and Hillary? Nobody else does.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#46 - Sun May 6, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                  Clinton " If you don't cut back on iranian oil, I'll let another 1,000,000 indian H1b"s into the us to take even more American jobs.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#47 - Sun May 6, 2012 1:12 PM EDT

                  I think that might help,Queen Elizabeth's army is here at Boeing because of crimes against humanity Bush Adm. and Bush ,Woody and Trump are still Violating the High international Court orders RE my family (Wright Brothers close blood relatives-we are all UN Peacekeepers/US GOV.agents) Businesses and removal of spy equips and devices-and they tried to steal Fowler Foster oil and gas ,my mother held hostage by Mexican mafia,my 15 yr old daughter by a terrorist that worked with Howard k sterns (Russian gypsy Jew bride and sex slavery rings),and I am living in my UN Vehicle -illegal police intimidation's and framing's everywhere and Bush has taught the ordinary Peace officers to ignore court rulings and OFFICIAL orders(US JUSTICE DEPT -GPS and OTHER HIGH INTEL.SATELLITE,spy equip..) and NASA had to step in because unbelievably ordinary police tried to threaten FBI the way they did UN-

                    Reply#48 - Sun May 6, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

                    I think that might help,Queen Elizabeth's army is here at Boeing because of crimes against humanity Bush Adm. and Bush ,Woody and Trump are still Violating the High international Court orders RE my family (Wright Brothers close blood relatives-we are all UN Peacekeepers/US GOV.agents) Businesses and removal of spy equips and devices-Bush illegally used my and my families systems on USS Kitty HAWK and Broke into internationally illegal weapons and equip. that UN had locked/per high court rulings and he tried to steal my Granddaddy's Fowler Foster oil and gas ,my mother held hostage by Mexican mafia,my 15 yr old daughter by a terrorist that worked with Howard k sterns (Russian gypsy Jew bride and sex slavery rings),and I am living in my UN Vehicle -illegal police intimidation's and framing's everywhere and Bush has taught the ordinary Peace officers to ignore court rulings and OFFICIAL orders(US JUSTICE DEPT -GPS and OTHER HIGH INTEL.SATELLITE,spy equip..) and NASA had to step in because unbelievably ordinary police tried to threaten FBI the way they did UN-

                      Reply#49 - Sun May 6, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

                      I think Hillary could give orders to all USA ocuppied countries: Kuwait, Irak, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudia Arabia, Colombia, and just recently, Honduras. I don't believe she would be able to give the same orders to India.

                        Reply#50 - Sun May 6, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                        I feel certain that India is shaking in their boots at anything "Wide Load" tells them.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#51 - Sun May 6, 2012 1:41 PM EDT
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