I never trusted the guy. For one thing, he doesn't have any accent whatsoever.

Whatever happened to the Israel that had such great and inspiring leaders like David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir and Yitzhak Rabin? Netanyahu is so untrustworthy, so hardline, so parochial, so nutty, so fringe. It would be like the US having Rush Limbaugh as president.

Exactly Motz!

It's like Bibi's strategy is flying a plane to a destination, except there is NO destination. The only goal is to fly the plane for as long as possible :\

motzinkc what a putz, every leader you mentioned; David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir and Yitzhak Rabin would have been just a staunchly against Iran as Netanyahu is and for good reason. And they also would have done whatever it took to gain the support of the Israeli population to do whatever it took to stop Iran from acquiring the nuclear bombs that would be used to start a war and wipe Israel off the face of the map.

I believe Netanyahu is correct, Israel has a right to exist and a right to defend itself. No nation has to wait to be attacked before defending itself, when a country like Iran threatens to wipe you off the face of the map you have a right to take whatever actions necessary to prevent that from happening.

Israel elected Netanyahu because they know Iran is building a nuclear bomb to use against them. Everyone knows this but only a few will stand up and say it, and only a few of those are willing to do something about it. Netanyahu is one of those few who will not let Israel just sit back and wait for an attack, he and others will take the action needed to keep Israel and her people safe. I may not agree with him on every issue, but whe it comes to the defense of Israel I would rather be safe then sorry.

Logic, be logical, if Israel attacks Iran you suppose they can stop Iran, thats not logical. Israel doesn't have the capability to permanently stop any building of a bomb. WHICH means Israel will demand that the USA help them, its unfortunate but our political leaders are at the bidding of the Israeli lobby here so we will be dragged into another war. I for one am tired of these endless wars we seem to be in. I suppose if you put Israeli interests ahead of American interests this wouldnt concern you but it does me. In fact a attack would probably just increase their determination to build a bomb since its probably their best defense against another attack.

everyone, if you really believe they are reliable you need to have your head examined, Israel has always been a one way street , they demand we support anything and everything they do without question. We give billions in aid and billions in military aid, even their contribution to technology is supported by American taxdollars. Israel has a lobby here which has a lock on our politicians, just look at how congress slobbered all over Bibi when he addressed them. Politicians who do any questioning of Israel get kicked out of office pronto.

square pants dude it's people like you who can not or will not understand the world as it is not as we would like it to be.

It's people like you who stopped General Patton from taking on the Soviet Union after WWII, that would have avoided 60 years of the cold war.

It's people like you that would surrender everything that this country built over 200 years and it is people like you that will cause this country to continue in its decline.

Hugh, consider that Israel's soldiers would never be allowed to stand side by side in any other middle east country, in any capacity. The muslim world would go even more nuts.

Jon Exner, do you not know how much larger the Soviet Unions Army was compared to our Army then? Why do you assume that war was winnable, and if you compare me to people like General Eisenhower who stopped Patton than Im ok with that.

Jon , You mean to say that only how YOU see the world, the USA and Israel, is the only truth. No one else's opinion matters, just yours. Well wake up, the Israeli lobby in Washington and to many Americans our relationship with them seems very one sided. They ask or demand and we give. To be an Allie is to be on equal footing and that my friends is not the case in their relationship with US. I no more want to see Iran get a bomb or Israel destroyed by one, but but don't be so myopic in your outlook as to how others see the world

So Israel is preparing for a conflict with Iran, and this just makes it more likely.

The democracy in Israel is imploding from within. The biggest threat to Isreal is itself...not Iran. It is clearly a right wing religious facist state. Very dangerous situation...they are intent on bombing Iran. If they feel it's in their national interest to do so then they have the right to do it and face the consequences. Maybe the United States will then wake up and realize it's in its best interest to help the Palestinians get a homeland and to start making friends with the new governments emerging in the arab world. That region of the world is changing and look for serious involvement by the Soviet Union and China to build more alliances there if the US continues its myopic support for a facist state. Building walls will not lead to eventual peace...it will just lead to isolation...and the eventual demise of Israel. An outcome that will be a great loss to the world. I believe in the Israeli dream but it is becoming a nightmare.

Iran is allowed the peaceful use of nuclear technology, as a signatory of the NNPT treaty. In fact, the treaty requires all members to share nuclear technology with one another, for peaceful purposes. In exchange for this sharing of technology, Iran has agreed to not pursue nuclear weapons. And there is nothing to indicate that they are. Every gram of nuclear material is accounted for.

Israel, on the other hand, isn't a signatory, and therefore doesn't necessarily need to recognize Iran's right to nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. But if they want to push this matter, let them -- and let them do it alone. If they attack Iran, Israel runs the risk of thousands of simultaneous missiles headed at them. And that so-called "Iron Dome" won't protect them from so many simultaneous launches. Even if only 5% of those missiles were to hit Israel, Israel would be seriously harmed. So Nutanyahoo is an 'existential threat' to Israel.

The USA should demand that Israel give up its nuclear weapons program in order to receive any kind of support from the USA. In fact, the Symington Amendment actually says that we aren't to give military aid to any country that has nuclear weapons and refuses to sign the NNPT. So the USA and Israel play this little game where Israel doesn't admit the obvious, and the USA doesn't push the matter -- just to circumvent the LAW.

Iran didn't say that it wanted to see Israel 'wiped off the face of the map'. This has even been admitted recently by Israel's Deputy PM (YouTube watch?v=5ZmffEQmKr8 ). Iran said that the GOVERNMENT of Israel would pass from the pages of history/time, as all governments ultimately do -- and that's a statement that even a pacifist could get behind. The Likud government in Israel SHOULD fade from the pages of time -- the sooner, the better.

The Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 was amended by the Symington Amendment (Section 669 of the FAA) in 1976. It banned U.S. economic, and military assistance, and export credits to countries that deliver or receive, acquire or transfer nuclear enrichment technology when they do not comply with IAEA regulations and inspections. This provision, as amended, is now contained in Section 101 of the Arms Export Control Act (AECA). (Wikipedia)

All the USA needs to do is follow its own law.

Epinnoia - you are misinformed.

A.L.S.

I am not misinformed. You're just brainwashed.

Shall I post Article IV of the NNPT for you? What part of what I wrote doesn't fit with your misunderstanding of reality? Or is that how you choose to debate when you don't know the facts? Did you even watch the video of the deputy PM? Probably not. Some people prefer to wallow in their own ignorance...

ARTICLE IV of NNPT treaty:

2. All the Parties to the Treaty undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Parties to the Treaty in a position to do so shall also co-operate in contributing alone or together with other States or international organizations to the further development of the applications of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, especially in the territories of non-nuclear-weapon States Party to the Treaty, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world.

Looks like the warmongers and war profiteers in Israel united to continue their dirty business.

Extremist and idiotic leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu are dangerous for any cause, nation and group of people.

Iran and Syria problems are between Shiites and Sunnis led by the despotic, highly corrupt and bigoted Sunni Saudi and their puppet Arab League.

Israel or anyone should not bother much about Iran's WMDs. Mad Iranian mullahs and their soldiers can't shoot straight and talk about WMD!

To weaken the oil rich ME trouble creators, let the sanctions against Iran be removed. It is better to crash the oil prices to ground zero.

Let them fight their battles.

We and Israel should keep away unlike in Iraq.

Once these Shiites and Sunnis settle the scores, let us worry about winners.

Sane Jews of Israel and the US need to have patience.

Will Israel now finally be put on the US Terrorist watch?

Actually if you wanna talk about the Cold War America provoked it... Stalin wouldn't have settled for snagging Poland and all other states east of Berlin except the fact that we essentially threatened him once the Atom bombs were ready. Some time after that we established NATO which not only scared the hell out of Stalin but forced him to find away to prevent a third front on Russian borders which like both teh World War's could and would crumble faster then he could prepare the people. We had just as much a hand in their efforts as did their own. Yeah they supported North Korea, but they also told em not to attack South Korea. The Cold War wasn't an Iron Curtain at all if you have the facts. Most cold war proxies were nations fighting for nationalistic point of views.

Back to Israel though, they call for our assistance more then they thank us for it... To be quite honest a state which possesses nuclear capabilities should they be necessary is less frightening then a tac size nation that does possess nuclear powers.

Iran doesn't even want to wipe them out, a hardline president that was misquoted not once but several times in saber rattling against the government of another nation has most of you stupidly believing that they all want such a thing. The truth is Israel and the U.S. play that game more then anyone else, and we call for the removal of many different kinds of governments, does that mean we intend to wipe them off the earth? No... but the way we say metaphorically seems to have a pretty big impact as did what Iran's President said albeit he isn't even the true leader.

I have tos ay what Epinnoia said isn't wrong in the slightest... And I dunno why anyone would fight someones opinion and not provide reasons for why lol...

Wow!! Lots of ignorant blather about the politics of a country that, clearly many of you have no clue.

Logic nailed it above; whenever Isreal sees a threat on the horizon they elect no nonsense politicians, like him or not, Bibi is such. Every time he is put in office suicide bombings decrease (see 1st election against Peres in mid 90's), for the simple reason that he won't stand for it. With Iran's nutty leader, the Arab Spring (nightmare), all the tension in the Middle East and our President's lack of support, he's the man for the job. If tensions calm (I doubt it) Isreael will elect someone more doveish. They always do, then the bombings start back up, the terrorism rises and Isreaeli's go back to a hawk.

Patriot:

"I only wish America was as blessed"

We're not much different than Israel; things calm down, we get war weary, and we elect a guy who thinks he can negotiate with terrorists, and Iran/Pakistan/N Korea/China/Russia/etc. do'nt take us seriously (just like they did'nt take Carter seriously). The unfortunate reality is that do to our wimpy leadership we are going to be in desperate need of our own Bibi (Reagan) real soon.

Patriot Chic:Congrats to Bibi, he is such a professional statesman and is perfect for Israel, at this time in their history.I only wish America was as blessed.

Blessed? Eliminating the democratic process so that we could create an 'unquestionable dictator' who rules with an iron fist? Yes what a "blessing" that would be.....lol

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." Ben Franklin

@ John Exner, Does Iran not also have the right to exist and defend itself? I mean why are we trying to stop a sovereign nation from trying to gain nuclear power? We are developing a new nuclear power plant for the first time in over 30 years here in the grand old US of A and yet not outcry from the world. Iran didn't threaten to bomb America over that move. Hell the world didn't budge when in 2006 Congress approved, under the Bush regime, a new class of nuclear weapons. Somehow Americas holding of 5000+ nuclear devices is ok, and Iran maybe getting 1 is the worst thing since the Reagan presidency?

Israel should be left to their own devices (no pun intended,) lol.. If Israel wants to push the buttons of Iran they better be able to deal with it on their own. But I think that Israel will label their bombs with American markings to point the finger at us. After-all Israel trumped up the Iraqi WMD info before the war in Iraq. Why should we support Israel? They owe America. Didn't we save them from extinction in WWII? We gave them the nuclear bomb parts they now plan to use on Iran..

@ Tod, you just described a nation that is nothing but a terrorist nation. Sure the terrorist attacks have subsided in Israel. But the daily incursions, the raids, the killings by Israelis in Palestine, Iran and other places to instill fear that the Muslims are the problem, have got to stop. They want to wipe out and cleanse the Earth of the Palestinians. They will stop at nothing until they raze every neighborhood and get to their ultimate goal. The Israelis will start to move towards the Dome of the Rock soon to begin rebuilding their false temple. America must NOT support Israel anymore. The Jews will be the downfall of America!!

Bones and cap,

You do know what a parliamentary system is right? What sane person can read your goofy overstatements and still take you seriously?

420:

"They want to wipe out and cleanse the Earth of the Palestinians"

I never cease to be amazed at how some people can live their entire lives in opposite-of-realityville

Jon Exner,

Just because you are ignorant enough to use your own name (the site itself recommends against it) dont blame the rest of us who have half of a brain. I must be a "muslim radical?" are you that ignorant or just plain stupid. Don't answer that you trolling half-wit. He was elected THEN SUSPENDED THE UPCOMING ELECTION. Hitler and Hussein were 'elected' too you, don't troll with me, please. If you need a friend (and Im sure you do) then go buy a parrot.

Of course you're right bones, silly me. Bibi is a"fascist dictator", and the world is shaking in their boots because of the raw power that Obama exudes. You, cap and 420 enjoy your stay in opposite-ville, I prefer reality.

Jon Exner

square pants dude it's people like you who can not or will not understand the world as it is not as we would like it to be.

It's people like you who stopped General Patton from taking on the Soviet Union after WWII, that would have avoided 60 years of the cold war.

It's people like you that would surrender everything that this country built over 200 years and it is people like you that will cause this country to continue in its decline.

It is people like you Jon, that decide to kill other people, cause they MIGHT be a threat....You are the definition of a terrorist!

So what you are saying is that i should kill everyone, because it is possible that maybe one day, lets say a guy falls asleep at the wheel , he might crash into me...so i should kill him now...hmmm! Brilliant...NOT!

israel is a huge problem that the U.S. does not need.

Got a funny picture in my mind of bones; frothing at the mouth while throwing his furniture around the room. Gadz, some people take themselves so seriously.

Well there you have it; a way to vivid snapshot capturing the inner workings of a depraved mind. No wonder the world is so screwed up.

John Exner,

First of all you spelled "HUGELY" wrong. Second of all, I never said this was a debate. This is a place where you can post ideas without getting in an argument with every a-hole who wants to call you a putz. Sadly, as more and more of you find out that the computer can be used as something other than a p*rno machine, the community in general is forced to put up with the non-sensical rantings of a loud-mouthed mal-content.

"Sadly, as more and more of you find out that the computer can be used as something other than a p*rno machine"

and the hits just keep on coming. The above post is by the same person who gave us this gem:

"I got a funny picture in my mind too. But mine involves your mother, the back seat of may car, and a nine iron"

comic relief, come on bones give us some more.

Seems like from the posts on here that there are a lot of Iran lover pukes. Hard to believe that we have Americans that side with Iran vs Israel. That is sure scary.....where are we moving towards...a muslim extremist suuport group...seems that is the case.

As long as WE AMERICANS are the slaves to aipac, American israeli public relations committe, israel will continue to torment and economically DRAIN America and Her Good people. Agreed, the islamic geeks are the worst, BUT doesn't israel foment ALL the trouble in the middle East via their palestinian raping of homes and lands. What would you feel like if some little israeli shmuck knocked on your door and said "Get Out!!" Your home is Now property of "israeli settlers" who are no more then FREELOADING wanderers looking for a free deal...which is what they do to America...............

Go get'em Netanyahu, Iran needs to be hit hard.

The Ahmadinejad quotes that supposedly repeatedly demonizes the state of Israel and openly describes Israel as a "fake regime" that "must be wiped off the map" is simply not true. These lines get bandied about constantly and were both from a UN speech. In the first instance, the "fake regime" comes when Ahmadinejad is discussing Israel's refusal to listen to UN mandates and return its "capital" to Tel Aviv instead of the predominantly Muslim Jerusalem, and to return to the 1967 borders. The specific issue he was addressing was that Israel had driven hundreds of thousands of Arabs into refugee camps and gave their land and homes to Jewish settlers. He then talked not about destroying Israel, but stating that "modern Israel must be wiped off the map of history." All this had absolutely zero with attacking Israel, but instead was calling on the UN to enforce its own edicts. Funny how lifting a few words out of context changes their meaning.

The Iranians indeed have very little love for Israel. But a great deal of this is because the Israeli's trained and directed the Sha's brutal SAVAK that killed or imprisoned hundreds of thousands of innocent Iranians for crimes such as carrying a torn banknote with the Shah's picture on it.

I am not anti-Israeli, but what country in its right mind would take on another country ten times its size past the far extreme range of its military? I do believe that Israel is in the final planning stages to attack Iran, because ot the head of the IDF, its former head of domestic intelligence, the former head of the Mossad, and several other top officials and former officials have all come out against attacking Iran as a hare-brained idea. The setting aside of politics during wartime and forming a "unity" government has generally been a prelude to war. This is a way that, from all indications, Israel does not have the capability to conduct on its own and fully intends to drag the US into. The ideal time, from Netanyahu's perspective would be in about September or so when it would have the greatest impact on US Presidential elections. Netanyahu is very anti-American and is a very prominent Obama-hater who wants nothing more than to get Obama out of office so it can continue to follow its own agenda without interference from the US.

@TN Rebel,

How about Grenada, and Panama, and Bosnia, and various places in Africa where we have troops? I don't see any IDF troops in South Korea or any other place where they could serve as "tripwire" forces just as well as Americans. In fact, the only place where Israel has gone militarily was in Apartheid South Africa where they sold them military nuclear secrets and oil in exchange for yellowcake. Oooops, not such a good example since at the time we were sanctioning South Africa.

There are plenty of places where Israel could help -- especially in military-type relief efforts such as in Africa and Haiti and the South Pacific tsunami. But Israel is never there is it?

But google the USS Liberty for a place where the IDF actually did a little fighting --- against an unarmed ship.

phantom,

Study some history please, that land was either bought and paid for by Zionists in the 20th century, or it was won in a succesion of wars that surrounding countries started. That the Israeli's even allow some the Palestinians land is a gift. In reality, there is no such thing as a Palestinian, what the world wrongly refers to as "Palestinians" are actually Lebonese, Jordanians, Syrians, Egyptians, Christians and Jews.

"The Ahmadinejad quotes that supposedly repeatedly demonizes the state of Israel and openly describes Israel as a "fake regime" that "must be wiped off the map" is simply not true"

Come on Chris, you can't just make silly statements and expect not to be challenged. I have listened to, and seen, multiple statements from him directly contradicting your premise. He is the leader of the largest military in the Middle East, and an existential threat to Israel. Wake up!!

Hey guys, you're forgetting, or have been lead to believe differently by propaganda that is so abound in this country, one thing. Iran doesn't have Nuclear weapons. They're trying to get Nuclear POWER. You people fell for this bull@!$%# in Iraq, and we never found a single WMD. Iran HELPED us then too.

You guys are so bat@!$%# stupid it's painful. I grew up, 10 years old to 20, my current age, watching the "adults" play with the fires of war for an entire decade. It took me some time, but I finally realized your experience isn't worth @!$%#. You're all a bunch of baby boomers or the younger generation who had everything given to them, and the only war you had to deal with growing up is a cold war.

But you know what? The worst part is that you're so easy to manipulate. Bush's administration and congress then pulled this bull@!$%# with the news. Iraq helped Al Qaeda! They have NUKES!!! We went in and found out neither were true.

Now Iran has NUKES and are threatening an Apartheid state that constantly attacks them and threatens them! We need to go help the Tyranical Israel! Oh, what's that? Iran didn't have any Nukes after all? Mission accomplished!

You people are why this country is going to @!$%#. Easy to manipulate, and open to constant wars. @!$%# you.

Kinda sounds like the incoherent rant of a 20 year old. Hopefully reality will settle in over the next 20 years.

Normally I'm in support of Israel, but this particular move does seem to indicate Israel's sure intention to stop Iran by any force they deem necessary. This is not what the Middle East needs with US troops pulling out and Syria on the verge of political collapse.

But I will remind everyone here of one thing, and I'll continue to say it until everyone understands: anyone who believes Iran is not conducting research into, if not already building, nuclear weapons technology is either very naive, very gullible or very stupid.

Chris--Israel didn't help in Haiti? Just another example of appalling ignorance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW6ddKmVoBE

Take a look at where they've provided relief.

Thanks for proving my point Tod. The "incoherent" nature is because I use something called sarcasm. But, y'know, you're pro war after we've had roughly five in the past 10 years. You're mentally deficient, I don't blame you.

Oh I get it now; Everything you posted, you actually believe the opposite of? That makes all the sense in the world now. Keep listening to your professors jr. they're really learning ya lots. Meanwhile the rest of us "war mongering mental deficients" will keep plodding along.

P.S. hint, hint, that was sarcasm

April-4010730

Eppinoia.....you ...are...DILLUSIONAL!!!!! They do want Israel wiped off the face of the earth, as well as the Great satan (USA) and there is video after video after video after video after video of Ahmadinijaad screaming these statements. How can you blatently deny obvious truth with plenty of resources showing such.

Your intellectual laziness is duly noted. I gave you a link to the deputy prime minister in Israel saying that it was a misquote. If you spent even half a minute on the internet, you can find people who say exactly the same thing -- and who take the statement apart, word by word. It was a misquote. And it serves the purposes of the saber-rattlers to keep that misquote propagating through the airwaves.

Ahmadinijad didn't even make the statement himself. He was quoting someone else. I bet you didn't even know THAT much, did you? Of course not.

Now go watch the video of the Israeli deputy PM that I linked. If you won't even do that much, then you are not only intellectually lazy, you're dishonest.

Here, I will even make it easier for you: (YouTube watch?v=5ZmffEQmKr8 )

Great piece of arab trash poopaganda there Epinhead. Yes everyone watch his chopped up youtube link, try not to laugh. I've made it even easier just click below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZmffEQmKr8

Now watch this kid - really sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc

latekate,

You don't speak Farsi, do you? I didn't think so. So you rely on others to tell you what was said, correct?

By the way, I do not dispute that there are Muslims who hate Jews. Nor should you dispute that there are Jews that hate Muslims. That isn't the point here. And you should know that.

Read this, slowly, so it gets through that thick barrier you have in place:

The translation presented by the official Islamic Republic News Agency has been challenged by Arash Norouzi, who says the statement "wiped off the map" was never made and that Ahmadinejad did not refer to the nation or land mass of Israel, but to the "regime occupying Jerusalem". Norouzi translated the original Persian to English, with the result, "the Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."^[12] Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, agrees that Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as, "the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)."^[13] According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian." Instead, "he did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse."^[14] The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) translated the phrase similarly, as "this regime" must be "eliminated from the pages of history."^{[15] (Wikipedia)}

informationliberation.com/?id=13453

Having children sign messages on bombs intended to kill Muslims is every bit as despicable as teaching Muslim kids to hate Jews. The problem exists on both sides, latekate.

Our dear Imam (referring to Ayatollah Khomeini) said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world

At a gathering of foreign guests marking the 19th anniversary of the death of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in 2008, Ahmadinejad said:

"You should know that the criminal and terrorist Zionist regime which has 60 years of plundering, aggression and crimes in its file has reached the end of its work and will soon disappear off the geographical scene

Some European countries insist on saying that during World War II, Hitler burned millions of Jews and put them in concentration camps. Any historian, commentator or scientist who doubts that is taken to prison or gets condemned. Although we don't accept this claim [of the holocaust], if we suppose it is true... If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe – like in Germany, Austria or other countries – to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe and we will support it."^[52][53]

In August 2006, the ‘Deutsche Welle’ citing AFP reported that Ahmadinejad had written a letter to German Chancellor Angela Merkel suggesting that the victorious Allied powers in World War II may have invented the Holocaust to embarrass Germany.^[70][71] "Is it not a reasonable possibility that some countries that had won the war made up this excuse to constantly embarrass the defeated people ... to bar their progress," Ahmadinejad reportedly wrote in the letter. Merkel indicated that she would not formally respond to the letter, saying it contained totally unacceptable" criticism of Israel and the Jewish state's right to exist.

At a Holocaust conference at Sharif University of Technology in Tehran on January 27, 2009, Ahmadinejad stated:

For 60 years they allowed no one to question and cast doubt on the logic of the Holocaust and its very essence – because if the truth were to be exposed, nothing would remain of their logic of liberal democracy. It is the very advocates of liberal democracy who defend the Holocaust, who have sanctified it to the point where none may enter. Breaking the padlock of the Holocaust and reexamining it will be tantamount to cutting the vital arteries of the Zionist regime. It will destroy the philosophical foundation and raison d'être of this regime...I invite the dear researchers, intellectuals, young people and students, who are the trailblazers, to reexamine not only the Holocaust, but also its consequences and aftermath and inform others of their studies and research. Let us not forget that more than ever before, the Zionist network, which came up with the issue of the Holocaust, must be exposed, and be presented to the peoples as it really is.^[73]

Sure sure... poor Ahmadinejad is so misunderstood.

Perhaps you should also do research on the doctrine of hate taught to children in Islam, nothing compares. Start here.

http://www.examiner.com/article/radical-islam-perverting-children-s-minds

America must not support the terrorist state of Israel. Israel has a end game of total extinction of the Palestinian people. They have nuclear weapons from Uncle Sam.

America must focus on OUR homeland. Screw the world. Let the UN deal with them. America has too many problems on OUR shores to worry about the rogue nation of Israel.

Nothing is a larger threat to freedom, than a united goverment.

You know who also was a strong leader who would not capitulate or accept defeat? Someone who defended "his people" to the death? Someone who was elected democratically but then waged war on his neighbors? Come on, guys. If you can't remember Hitler, who CAN you remember?

Obviously Netanyahu is no Hitler, but come on now. Israel is an anocracy as is, and this just makes it worse. What country keeps picking fights hoping someone else will have its back if things get rough? Iran, even if it has a nuclear weapon, will not deploy against Israel. Then would mean Israel shooting back-and by God, if anyone will overreact, it's the Israelis-and every nation on the Earth would sever any and all ties with Iran. That's guaranteed. So Israel's warmongering is dangerous and unnecessary. Iran talks a lot, but they know as well as anyone else that attacking Israel is a terrible idea. Even France would come to Israel's aid in that situation.

This is no Six Day War. Israel cannot simply send its Air Force to perform a Pearl Harbor esque surprise attack to hit Iran before it even declares war. It's not the Golan Heights, where Israel can infiltrate the Syrian High Command to coordinate perfect artillery strikes and eliminate enemy positions. If Israel engages Iran, Israel might win...but it will be hard fought, and cost thousands (if not millions) of people their lives, whether they be Iranian, Israeli, or just in between the two.

Most nations learn sometime in their existance that they cannot just go about declaring war as they please, because sooner or later, they'll be defeated. Israel has not learned that lesson yet, because of the American eagerness to help them at their beck and call...and I say this with no animosity towards Israel, but it's best that they relent, because that lesson is a dangerous one to learn. For their own sake, if nothing else, Israel should at least try to get along with Iran.

"This is no Six Day War. Israel cannot simply send its Air Force to perform a Pearl Harbor esque surprise attack to hit Iran before it even declares war. It's not the Golan Heights, where Israel can infiltrate the Syrian High Command to coordinate perfect artillery strikes and eliminate enemy positions." - Lebanese Carolinian

Sure. But it will look somehow like that: an unidentified submarine surfaces for a few moments somewhere in Persian Gulf (or maybe not even surfaces if it has underwater launching capacities), launches a salvo of cruise missiles, and dives again. Tehran and a bunch of other cities are wiped off the map. The evidences that can identify the cruise missiles as belonging to any particular nation evaporated in the explosions. There will be no way to pin it on Israel because the missiles could well be US, British, French - hell, even Russia, China, and India don't like the idea of Iran possessing nukes, and Pakis also theoretically can do the attack, though they don't seem to have a reason to do so.
And if Iran manages to snap back with whatever primitive missiles they have, then we'll see the F-15s in Iranian sky, especially considering that command and control systems of Iran would have inevitably suffered in the first strike.

Anonymous User .. Another word you are admitting that the US will fight ISRAEL WAR , like they did all the time, you right Israel might win , But do you want to take a chance of that buddy, If Iran got the nukes , who will they bomb, Israel , Hell it will be like you shooting the nukes in their back yard, come on man , Why Israel has 200 nukes , who will they shoot them at , Europe or us , I bet you , the whole problem is a meths , nobody in that part of the world can nuke the other, it will the destruction if all, I know some of our politicians said the Iranian leadership is crazy , that's bull , these people been around for long time and they love their kids just as much as the Israelis love theirs , if not more , so do not give me that story , I know you going to say how about these Al Qaeda bombers, these people have nothing to lose and everything to gain, Our friends the Saudis will tell , they usually promise them to keep there families up and give money to live after they brain wash into being a mortar , and the Iranians are not pushed in the corner yet, So my advice , live and let live , Everybody can love one another , that's what we were taught growing up , I think it still exists if we only live by it.

Nobody's entitled to anything more then the next guy...

@Hugh Class, toxic swill? Are you kidding. God gave The land to Israel, not just the Jews. Might wanna do some real homework. Secondly, ppl who steal, and kill etc etc are guilty of those things, quite pasting labels on "a people" bc of your incognito anti-semitism. God DID give us the land, ppl have been trying to wipe the earth clean of the jews for how many years now? And now, by only a shear miracle have they regathered and came to take back what has been theirs. AND put back into use the language they have had for centuries that was dead. The list goes on. But we ignore those pesky details dont we.

April et al: that was back in like 3000 BC! You can't base contemporary policies on God giving land to a bunch of tribes back then! After the Romans crushed the Holy Land in like 75 AD, there was no official Jewish presence there, so it passed to the Arabs, the Ottoman empire, etc. Their history in the region is just as important as the Jewish history in the region (and, it's more recent). But of course, Jews don't recognize anyone else's history but their own--assume they own God and God only cares about them. Bad assumption. Not to mention, the only reason the modern nation of "Israel" was created was because the Europeans wanted to ship the Jewish people out of Europe after WWII, instead of giving them back their possessions, businesses, land, homes, etc. in the European countries.

You're right April. We shouldn't ignore those pesky details...what happened to love thy neighbor. Now go hug a Palestinian and befriend him. Spread the love and repent.

PS: how come Jews never talk about the times God took the land from the Jews. There are numerous accounts in the bible of this happening. Perhaps God wants to do it again?

The bible is a mythical creation about a bunch of bunk. Bottom line, Israel is trying to start a war that they'll want the US to finish. We've got enough problems. Let Israel take care of its own country... we need to stay out of it! Honestly... a Jewish country surrounded by Muslim countries... this has no other way to end but badly.

What does the age have to do with anything? Last time I checked, Gods covenants were for....well ever. Contemporary policy or not, it is what it is, they have rights to that land, as well as the rest of the Israelites. Aside from Rome crushing the Holy Land in 75AD, there were many other times, they were driven out of the land, wither it be from disobedience or otherwise. Passed to the Arabs? Covenant land doesnt pass anywhere. And Antiochos, well I guess if you consider it ok for ppl to just come in and burn and slaughter people bc they want other peoples land is “ok” then I guess you might be right. It was never their land to take. NEXT- “Jews don't recognize anyone else's history but their own--assume they own God and God only cares about them. Bad assumption.” Thats just a blatent lie. Of all people they are one to realize they are not the only tribe of Israel, and they even right now, share the land with PEACEFUL PEOPLE, (palestinian or otherwise) who are willing to live peacefully together. Only one problem here, these 2 seeds will never mix!! The belief system is polar opposite. Its simple, there is salt and pepper, black and white, good and evil. God, and HaSatan. A people disbanded and killed off that many times, dispersed to all corners of the earth. Well...you can look up the statistics.

@Phinster66 Im great with loving my neighbor!! Im just an avid lover of My Fathers land, and His covenant. And just for your information, I work for a big group of docs, that are Palestinian, and Syrian, and Indian, and Persian, all Middle Eastern in which I am great friends with. So no lacking there.

P.s. Jews do talk about the times God took the land from them. Your right, there are many times. But through obedience, as well as His Plan, which trumps it all, He has alwasy brought them back, and FULFILLED prophecy in which this had to happen. Thats the point here. And Im not being sarcastic here, but do some prophecy research it gives you a crystal clear picture. The Harbinger is a great book to read. By Jonathan Cahn. Last words, God says His people will never be removed from His land again, until Yeshua returns.

April-4010730: Wow, with all your loving I must wonder what all the turmoil is all about?? I guess you didn't like your great grandfather or his father's father, et al since they left the land for 2000+ years.

Your last words you say that in the end God will allow for the removal of the Jews from the land because it is God's word that Yeshua will return. I think you should just leave now peacefully because when God takes land it's always annihilation, at least from I've read in the bible writings anyways.

Have you ever been angry? Moses couldn't go to the promised land because of this trait.

"After the Romans crushed the Holy Land in like 75 AD, there was no official Jewish presence there, so it passed to the Arabs, the Ottoman empire, etc" - April-4010730

You forgot to mention Crusaders.
And then the land passed back to Jews by the same right it passed to Arabs before - by the right of the sword. After all, Ben Gurion and Dayan were just as right as khalif Omar and Saladin were before them.
Wait, maybe khalif Omar and Saladin had more right to take the land under sharia law because they were faithful Muslims, while Ben Gurion and Dayan were Infidels? Too bad for Arabs and other Muslims because no one else takes it for law.

I suppose using his brain would be too much?

First comment I've read that actually..gets it

sam.... what a load, Israel has always fought their own battles. Since the creation of Isreal could you name one battle that the United States has fought for Israel. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, oops time is up there isn't any.

Admit it you are just a muslim supporter who would like to see Iran wipe Israel off the face of the map. Unfortunately for you and Iran I don't think Isreal will stand by and allow that to happen.

@Jon Exner,

Remember the USS Liberty! Then tell the families of those killed and wounded by Israeli paranoia all about how wonderful Israel is. I have listened to the NSA tapes of both the IDF pilots and the PT boat commanders as they gleefully sought to "teach those Americans a lesson." They never apologized (Congress did it on their behalf) and never paid reparations (Congress did it on their behalf) and that leopard has never changed its spots. Israel cannor be trusted. That is unless you think that you honestly believe that a capital ship of the US Navy can be mistaken for a paddle-wheel Egyptian horse-transport barge.

Yeah, right, No Class. The Mossad is so brilliant, ruthless and powerful, they had no more sense than to dance on top of vans during 9/11. I have always wondered, though...if they ARE so brilliant, ruthless and powerful, why do people like you keep pissing them off?

And YOU, in turn, have no more sense than to prove my old rule about anti-Zionists...in about six postings they turn into plain old-fashioned Jew baiters, who stop complaining about "the Zionists" and start openly attacking "the Jews." Readers will see that a couple of postings from now.

Mohommed-Hugh is a typical Pallywood troll. How's the weather in Iranazi?

every regime that had persecuted Jews had been overthrown or collapsed often as an indirect consequence of that persecution. On the other hand countries that welcomed Jews usually prospered and benefited from their many talents.

British historian, Paul Johnson

Good bye Iranian leadership we will not miss you!

gotta suck sooner or later being a jew hater. keep dragging up the same ole talking points....they are old and tired and completely irrelevant to us and the government ....try getting a life.

Chris-749391, Hugh Class -, &Co seem to have a very selective memory. They completely forgot USS Stark and USS Cole. Both attacked by Arabs, both unmistakeably identified as American and attacked exactly for that reasons. The casualties of USS Stark alone exceeded those of USS Liberty. No one ever apologized for those attacks, let alone paid any compensation.

Add to that 9/11 casualties. Israel never attacked US homeland. Arabs did.

The case of USS Liberty was a case of mistaken identity. That was the only logical conclusion. That conclusion was made independently by President, Congress, and DOD after independent and thorough investigations. Israel apologized and paid compensation in full. Case closed."

Hugh (no)Class--The Liberty never abandoned ship. The Liberty was strafed and hit with napalm. The strafing put holes in the lifeboats and the napalm set them on fire. The crew pushed the lifeboats over the side.

· Red herring is an idiomatic expression referring to a rhetorical tactic of diverting attention away from an item of significance.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a wonderful attempt to divert attention away from radical Islam's desire to conquer.

Remember this incident?

The fourth USS Vincennes (CG-49) is a U.S. Navy Ticonderoga class Aegis guided missile cruiser. In 1988, the ship shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 civilian passengers on board, including 38 non-Iranians and 66 children. Oops!

Somehow, a top-of-the-line cruiser with the latest technology shot down a passenger plane in broad daylight, and it was an accident. However, eleven years earlier, with less formidable detection technology, Israeli jets and boats attack the Liberty in the middle of the 6-Day War, and it was deliberate!

@Anonymous,

I haven't forgotten about the Cole or the Stark. The Cole was blown up by terrorists after being warned that it was not a safe place to refuel. It wasn't a case of mistaken identity and no one wver claimed that it was. The generally accepted story with the Snark was that Sadaam (our ally at the time) was trying to head off a poular preception that he was getting too cozy with the US. It, too was probably not a case of mistaken identity although officially Iraq claimed to have mistaken it for an Iranian oil tanker which was nearby. Sadaam personally "apologized" for the Snark and compensation to both the US and families was paid.

I have personally listened to the NSA tapes of the IDF pilots and PT boat commanders as they shot up the unarmed ship. One PT boat commander was thrilled that when they shot down the US flag flying from the stern that Americans had put it back up. He saw it as a chance to "kill more Americans." Another PT boat commander chortled about how much fun he was having shooting up the damage control parties and their hoses. Two Israeli pilots refused to drop their bombs on the ship and were subsequently courts-martialled by the IDF for it.

Dean Rusk, U.S. Secretary of State at the time of the incident, wrote: "I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."

Oooops.sorry.

The Israeli's did NOT actually pay compensation. Their military aid budget was increased on three separate occasions and they the Israeli government paid the amount of the increase (as a credit against their military aid package.) The first payment was for the families of the men killed, the second for the men wounded, and the third was for the ship itself and around 15 years' interest. The compensation did not came from the American taxpayer through a subtrefuge. The Israeli's never apologized more than "Stuff happens."

chris.... I take it that you believe the United States has never accidentally bombed the wrong target. It happens so if you have any proof that Israel intentionally targeted a U.S. ship other than your warped mind let us in on it.

Jon Exner - I have proof. Read it.

There is a timeline at the website which was set up to honor the American victims of the Israeli
and U.S. Military. Most of it follows.

June 8,
1967, Israeli forces attack the USS Liberty. They kill 34 American servicemen,
wounding 171 others. It will be the highest casualty rate ever inflicted on a
U.S. naval vessel, with 7 out of every 10 crew members killed or injured. It
will also be the only peacetime attack on a U.S. naval vessel that, to this
day, the Congress of the United States of America formally refuses to
investigate.

2 June 1967. Liberty
departs Rota at top speed of 18 knots en route to a point 13 miles off the Gaza
Strip, well within international waters.

5 June 1967, 7:45
(all times cited are local Liberty time). Israel attacks Egypt, simultaneously
putting out false reports that Egypt had attacked first. Captain McGonagle asks
Vice Admiral William Martin at Sixth Fleet headquarters to send a destroyer as
an armed escort and auxiliary communication center, noting that Liberty's
"self defense capability limited to four .50 caliber machine guns and
small arms."

6 June
1967. Admiral Martin replies "Liberty is clearly marked United States ship
in international waters, not a participant in the conflict and not a reasonable
subject for attack by any nation . . . Request for escort denied."

7 June
1967, shortly before midnight. Office of the U.S. Defense Attaché in Tel Aviv
sends coded message to U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that Israel intends
to attack the Liberty if her course is not changed.

8 June 1967:

1000: Two unmarked,
rocket-armed, delta-winged jets circle Liberty three times. Liberty officers
can count rockets and see the pilots, but see no identifying marks on the
plane. The jets radio Israeli headquarters that the ship is flying an American
flag.

1030: Israeli "flying boxcar" with Israeli markings circles
Liberty at about 200 feet. Crew member Larry Weaver says, "I was actually
able to wave to the co-pilot, a fellow on the right-hand side of the plane. He
waved back, and actually smiled at me."

1055: Pinchas Pinchasy, naval liaison officer at Israeli air force
headquarters, reports to Naval Headquarters that the ship cruising slowly off
El Arish is "an electromagnetic audio-surveillance ship of the U.S. Navy,
named Liberty, whose marking was GTR-5."

1100 & 1130: Israeli reconnaissance aircraft again circle Liberty.

1205: Three Israeli motor torpedo boats leave Ashdod at high speed headed
toward Liberty. They are followed by Israeli air force fighters, loaded with
30mm cannon ammunition, rockets, and napalm.

1215 & 1245: Israeli reconnaissance aircraft again circle Liberty.

1341: Israeli torpedo boats spot Liberty and call for an immediate air strike.

1358: Two unmarked delta-winged Mirage jets attack Liberty. After taking out
gun mounts, they target ship's antennae and bridge with heat-seeking missiles.

1405: Three unmarked Dassault Mystère IIIC jets attack with napalm and
rockets. Ship tries to contact Sixth Fleet headquarters, but five of Liberty's
six shore circuits are jammed. Radio operator manages to send distress signal
from Captain McGonagle: "Under attack by unidentified jet aircraft,
require immediate assistance." Attack lasts approximately 22 minutes,
involving 30 to 35 sorties, killing nine men and wounding around 60. Israeli
pilot reports to base: "Great, wonderful, she's burning, she's
burning."

1409: Captain Joe Tully of the USS Saratoga acknowledges call for help,
dispatches four F-4 Phantom jets, and informs Liberty that help is on the way.
Within minutes U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert MacNamara orders rescue jets to
return: : "Tell Sixth Fleet to get those aircraft back
immediately." Rear Admiral Geis relays message and tells them to re-launch
jets in 90 minutes.

1424: Three French-built 62-ton Israeli motor torpedo boats approach Liberty in
attack formation. Because the Israeli fighters had destroyed the American flag,
Captain McGonagle orders the signalman to hoist the "holiday ensign,"
the largest flag the ship has.

1435: Torpedo boats launch five German-made 19-inch torpedoes at Liberty.
One torpedo strikes starboard directly into NSA area, accounting for 25 of the
34 men who would be killed. Torpedo boats then circle, machine-gunning the ship
with armor-piercing projectiles for another 40 minutes.

1450: Commander of Sixth Fleet orders carriers USS America and USS Saratoga to
send aircraft to defend Liberty.

1500: NSA Sigint Command Center receives first notice of the attack from either
the America or Saratoga: "USS Liberty has been reportedly torpedoed by
unknown source in Med near 32N 33E. Request examine all communications for
possible reaction/reflections and report accordingly."

1505: Message sent to Liberty from Sixth Fleet: "Sending aircraft to cover
you. Surface units on the way." Liberty is off the air and does not
receive the message.

1511: First "official" notice that Liberty is under attack reaches
National Military Command Center in Washington.

1515: After the order to "prepare to abandon ship" comes over the
loudspeaker system, the lifeboats are lowered into the water. Israeli torpedo
boats move in closer and fire on them, as well as those still on deck, making
them all unusable. "I watched with horror as the floating life rafts were
riddled with holes," recalled Lieutenant Lloyd Painter, in charge of the
evacuation. Said Petty Officer Rowley, who also witnessed the event: "They
didn't want anyone to live." After destroying the life rafts, the Israeli
boats departed. Next, two Israeli SA-321 Super Frelon Hornet assault
helicopters carrying soldiers in battle dress circle ship several times, then
depart.

1600: Liberty transmits: "Flash, flash, flash. I pass in the blind. We
are under attack by aircraft and high-speed surface craft." Deputy
Director Louis Tordella is informed by Deputy Director of Joint Reconnaissance
Center, Captain Vineyard, that "consideration was then being given by some
unnamed Washington authorities to sink the Liberty in order that newspaper men
would be unable to photograph her and thus inflame public opinion against the
Israelis." Tordella makes an "impolite" comment about the idea,
writes a memo of the conversation for the record, and stores it away.

1639: Secretary of Defense McNamara again orders rescue planes recalled;
order is confirmed by President Johnson because "we are not going to
embarrass an ally." Naval Air Attaché at U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv,
Commander Ernest Castle, is summoned to Israeli Defense Forces headquarters.

1729: Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis, commander of the Sixth Fleet in the
Mediterranean, protests decision to recall rescue planes to Secretary of
Defense McNamara. At that point President Johnson comes on the phone and says
he didn't care if the ship sunk, he would not embarrass his allies. Admiral Geis
tells Lt. Commander David Lewis, head of the Liberty's NSA group, of the
remark, but asks him not to repeat it until after he dies. It is a promise
Lewis will honor.

9 June 1967:

After midnight: Soviet guided missile
destroyer sends flashing-light message in English: "Do you need
help?" Liberty responds: "No thank you." Soviets answer: "I
will stand by in case you need me."

0600: USS Navy destroyers Davis and Massey
arrive.

Mid-morning: Dead and wounded are evacuated by helicopter.

1450: Israeli Lt. Col. Michael Bloch telephones Commander Castle that Liberty, because
it was not flying a flag, had been mistaken for the Egyptian supply ship El
Queseir. State Department assures Congress that attack was accidental.

10 June 1967: Vice Admiral McCain orders Rear Admiral Isaac Kidd to convene
Navy Court of Inquiry.

11 June 1967: Admiral Kidd boards Liberty
with small staff to head Navy Court of Inquiry.

14 June 1967: Liberty arrives in Malta. Total
news blackout imposed. Rear Admiral Kidd warns crew: "You are never,
repeat never, to discuss this with anyone, not even your wives. If you do, you
will be court-martialed and will end your lives in prison or worse."
Secretary of Defense McNamara informs media that, "Department of Defense
will have no further comment."

15 June 1967: Secretary of State Dean Rusk
tells NATO ambassadors in Luxembourg that Israel's attack was deliberate. His
remark is reported in European, but not U.S. papers.

18 June 1967: Israeli Court of Inquiry
exonerates Israeli government and all those involved, saying that its torpedo
boats erroneously reported the Liberty's speed at 30 knots instead of 5, and
that the Liberty flew no flag and had no identifying markings. Later, Israel
will honor Motor Torpedo Boat 203, the one that fired the deadly torpedo at the
Liberty, by putting its wheel and bell on display in its naval museum, among
those maritime items of which it is most proud.

July 1967: Shortly after the burial of six
Liberty crewmen in Arlington National Cemetery, a monument is erected
describing the six as having "Died in the Eastern Mediterranean."
Liberty survivors complain that the marking is evasive and improper.

September 1967: State Department legal
adviser Carl Salans finds many discrepancies with the Israeli report. His
report is classified Top Secret.

11 June 1968: Captain McGonagle is awarded
the Congressional Medal of Honor. The Medal, usually presented by the President
of the United States at the White House, is presented by the Secretary of the
Navy during a hastily arranged ceremony at the Washington D.C. Navy Yard.
Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, the Chief of Naval Operations, calls the way the
Medal is presented a back-handed slap. "Everyone else received their medal
at the White House," Moorer will later observe. "President Johnson
must have been concerned about the reaction of the Israeli lobby."

1980: National Security Agency Director
Marshall Carter tells investigative author James Bamford that, regarding the
attack on the Liberty, "There was no other answer than that it was
deliberate."

1981: National Security Agency review,
"Attack on a Sigint Collector, the USS Liberty Incident," rejects the
Israeli Court of Inquiry's "mistake" theory and accuses Israeli
fighter pilots and torpedo boat crewmen and commanders of perjury.

1982: Israeli senior lead pilot approaches
former Congressman Pete McCloskey and admits that he recognized the Liberty as
American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the
American flag and continue his attack. He said he refused to do so and returned
to base, where he was arrested.

6 October 1982: A new headstone for the six
Liberty crew members at Arlington National Cemetery is unveiled. This one
reads: "Killed USS Liberty June 8, 1967."

1986: Lt. Commander Walter H. Jacobsen writes
in Naval Law Review: "To speculate on the motives of an attack group that
uses unmarked planes and deprives helpless survivors of life rafts raises
disturbing possibilities, including the one that the Liberty crew was not meant
to survive the attack..."

6 November 1991: Columnists Evans and Novak
publish interview with Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967, in
which Porter says that during or immediately after the attack on the Liberty
the CIA station chief showed him transcripts of intercepted Israeli messages.
One has Israel ordering the attack on the Liberty, another has an Israeli pilot
replying it's an American ship. When the order to attack is repeated, the pilot
insists he can see the American flag. The pilot is told again: "Attack
it."

8 June 1997: Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, appointed
Chief of Naval Operations shortly after the attack on the Liberty, tells a
reunion of survivors: "I have to conclude that it was Israel's intent to
sink the Liberty and leave as few survivors as possible. Israel knew perfectly
well that the ship was American."

November 1998: Captain McGonagle breaks his
long silence: "After many years I finally believe that the attack was
deliberate. I don't think there has been an adequate investigation of the
incident . . . The flag was flying prior to the attack..." McGonagle will
die four months later, on March 3, 1999.

Oh again with the Muslim, don't your small brain have anything else to say.

America Needs to stay out of Anything involving Iran... or we will collapse.

@cleokl:

Don't your small brain know how to speak proper English. Boy, ya' gotta love the ignorant, they keep on giving and giving.

But back on track, if you are not regurgitating the lies spewed by the Muslims, then where do you pick up the lies and garbage you spew?

Same could be said about your anti-muslim "garbage" Xbonz... Would do you a little good to make sure you're not a hypocrite before you play that card.

This ain't a black and white world, learn that.

Negotiations should be utilized. At all costs...

I dont believe Irans objective is to nuke Israel, but to have a deterrent against attack, somewhat the same reason Israel has Atomic weapons herself. I may be wrong but I dont think Irans leaders are that crazy since they know that a retaliatory strike would completely destroy their country.

square dude - man, you obviously know nothing of the radical Islamic teachings that the leaders of Iran adhere to. Whatever you think about the situation with Israel, how can anyone be that ignorant about Iran's intentions and the deeply religious reasons for it?????????

"Zealots are unconcerned with logic."

In that case, it appears there are a lot of zealots using this post; from all sides of this discussion.

Logic would dictate that all of the logic being thrown around can't logically be diametrically opposed.

Its just not the military service thing but from what I understand the Ultra Orthodox Jews since they spend all their time worshiping God they cant be bothered making a living so Israel provides a payment to support their large families.

Muslim or Jew or Christian... Who cares? Stop whining blitz...

Jes, no. it is a definition of parliamentary democracy.

I'm guessing Jestep couldn't pass an American course on civics, let alone begin to have an understanding of a foreign government.

"Whenever you have an efficient government you have a dictatorship." -- Harry Truman

I was being cynical. Chill out Butt!

Ha Ha, gives me a vision of a microwave and 2 chefs trying to push the different countries into it.

Give me a reason and proof they would actually nuke Israel if and when they got one. Actual proof, not out of context quotes from speeches. Use logic, tell me when was the last time they geared up for an invasion.

I agree with youl

Israel should all of its nukes on Iran before Iran gets the drop on Israel.

(((Yawn))) Jewish hasbara, don't leave this site without it.

Its time for Iran to unconditionally surrender and have all their weaponry removed, or have themselvess removed from the face of the earth via nuking now.

@Commonsense,

Iran did indeed have some of the largest and best tolerated Jewish and Christian communities in the world. But that was pre-Shah. During the Shah's reign of terror, it was the Mossad who trained the brutal and repressive SAVAK on a multi-billion dollar US taxpayer-funded contract. The Mossad drew heavily on disaffected youth within the Jewish and Christian communities (mostly secular Jews and Christians) to man the SAVAK, driving a permanent wedge between the Iranians and the resident Christians and Jews. Many thousands of SAVAK employees were executed during the revolution, disproportionately Jewish and Christian. Until the Shah, Jewish and Christian businessmen and bankers performed valuable services to the secular Iranian government by allowing the charging of interest and other Islam-forbidden types of financial services. Now those services are not allowed.

AZ eloquently put. You got some great halluconegenic drugs. Is it mushrooms, crack, lsd. Its time for the Great Satans to remain great. Its time to use their weapons of mass destruction to make sure their enemies disappear forever. Why pussy around these insects?? Make them glow make sure that even their ashes are vaporized.

Nope, its Israeli ecstasy! :)

Yes, Chris, both Arabs and Jews are Semites...but "anti-semitism" is commonly used to mean "anti-Jewish." However, I don't mind if you choose to call yourself a Jew baiter.

@Cassandra,

Calling me names just sjhows that you have no argument. I do not choose to call myself a "Jew baiter" as you so cleverly posit, but instead call those who twist the word "anti-semite" to mean "anti-Jewish" as just plain stupid. A person who hates Arabs is just as much of an anti-semite as someone who hates Jews. There is no difference and trying to argue that somehow it is "commonly used" is like saying that some people claim that 1+1=3, but that doesn't make it so.

Remember the USS Liberty!

I'm sure Israel can put that American taxpayer money to good use by nuking Iran out of existence. You can than rub your idf until you are thouroughly amused.

Alboy... your warmongering is sad... You pay no respects to the repercussions of such calls, and you certainly don't care about life in any form. If that's the case, then I recommend you sign up and make it to the front line if it all goes down like you wanted. You'd be showing us you want your vote to count.

Yes there would be no conflict without religion.

Since Iran is using its religion to justify their need to annhilate everything that is not them, Iran is a rabid dog that has to be put down forever.

Hugh

Point is, they should have taken care of business when they had the chance. Sticking your head in the sand doesn't get rid of the threat.

Goodbye mullah Hugh Class-mani.

I don't think we would but, considering that China does not based their national identity on the reverence of some God that works only for the chosen people, I got to believe the desire to live would overwhelm their desire to start a conflict on a scale that would eventually make all participants losers. For instance, as much as the former USSR may have wanted to destroy the USA and the NATO alliance, they fully understood the notion of the MAD doctrine. Think about this for a second; what nation in the Middle East offers Israel proportionally the same notion that the East and West faced during the cold war??? At this particular moment, no one and Israel wants it to stay that way - no parity just their way is the only way.

Hugh

Was the leader of Israel threatening Europe? NO!

Hugh:

You disagree with so you call me names? I guess you consider yourself the all knowing when it comes to Israel? That's a very high plane you put yourself on.

his banter response is repetitious at best, he is limited in his vocabulary by his eduaction as a muslim extremist is my guess...most of them are illiterate, he is a high functioning one.

Obama is the one that would like to see no election. Doesn't matter what party afterall big banks controll the politicians. They paid for them when they were running for office