And WHO actually uses them regardless of how much money is spent?

Uh oh.... Looks like Americans may lose some more freedoms.

Uhm for our own protection of course. *sarcasm*

What???? Hillary fearmongering???

Looks like "BIG BROTHER" is beating the drum and getting ready to restrict American liberties even more. Not the liberties of terrorist groups though. We need to "talk to", "understand", and free those groups so they can return to committing those "perverse ways to kill us".

Fear tactics designed to strip us of more freedoms. TSA is only looking for marijuana. Medical marijuana is a real issue/problem for those who need to travel to medical marijuana UNFRIENDLY states.

Legalize it!

Wow, After reading the headline I went right to the comment section wondering what would be written by the people. How happy I was to see that Americans are awake and prepared to fight back the tyranny that has taken over our gov't. With all the comments about how perverse the administration has become it should be impossible for Obama or Rommney to win. RON PAUL 2012

Terrorism, thy name is MEXICO!

Are you scared yet..? Just remember "folks" - they hate us for our feedom...

"Terrorists seek 'more perverse,' 'terrible' ways to kill innocents" We are the international Bankster NWO War profiteers, I am Hillary Clinton, I am their representative and Amerika is their Be-otch. We are the masters of terrorism and we will kill anybody that interrupts our reign, even woman and babies are suspect. Unless it is a false flag attack; in that case we use that to make all of you terrorists and make your constitution void.

why does the media insist upon calling her Hillary Rodham Clinton, either call her Hillary like everyone else or simply the wife of former president Bill Clinton?

Well, gooooood morning! Very heartening to see the top posts dominated by awake, thinking people!!! The FBI has been behind EVERY attempted terror attack since 911.

And, aside from 911 conspiracies...how did stockholders know to dump millions of shares of airline stock the DAY before the attacks....(not a theory)..

Just keep quiet, drink your fluoride, take your prescriptions, and trust your system, everyone! It's all gonna be o.k., we have top men working on it!

Oddly when they mentioned the "underwear Bomber" they failed to mention that it was revealed in hearings that the bomber was given the "fake bomb" by CIA & FBI with added help from Homelant Security and that the airline was forced to let him on without a passport.

She must of forgot that part just a slip I'm sure she will be back to clarify that.

Madame Secretary -terrorists seek more perverse ways to kill- were you referring to the updated version of underwear bomber from Yemen? One Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri? Or were you perhaps referring to Iraqi VP Tareq Al-Hashemi's Interpol's Red Alert for terror financing and killing of 6 judges and officials in Iraq? Did you confer with Turkish PM Erdogan since Tareq al-Hashemi was last seen in Istambul,Turkey on May 4th,2012? Or perhaps PFLP Palestinian terrorist Abu Mojahed for abducting Israeli soldiers for prisoners in Israel incitement? Or Pakistan being the terror assembly area for World Jihadists/terrorists who have dual nationalities and who come to Waziristan from France,Germany,Turkey,Bosnia,Uzbekistan etc with your Homeland Security dept. having the airline lists of passengers traveling from Europe to said destinations and you cannot see the very obvious and blaming only Pakistan for autonomous tribal areas? Is this the reason US forgot the VE day in Europe (end of WWII in Europe)?

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The powers that be are getting ready for the problems that will be coming up in Europe, so they are planting as much fear as they can into us so that we would agree quietly when they deploy our troops into Greece. Don't be surprise if there is a big attack in the US soon.

If the terrorist are so creative and perverse we would not be safe anywhere. Think about it.

What the matter Basher Bois? Woke up with burrs up your butts? Hillary Rodham Clinton IS secretary of State. Eat your hearts out. Poor lil Basher Bois...McMommy forgot to make breakfast for her lil sweetums she overindulged until they are 35. Basement dwellers with no real futures except as keyboard terrorists.

Not a single Basher Boi post makes a particle of sense that can be proved in a court of law much less by a professional psychoanalyst. But the part I love most? The Basher Bois know that their president is showing how much more intelligent he is and he didn't have to have a Nanny Rice or a puppet master with right wing terrorism to get him going every morning. Try again Master Testosteronies.

The US needs to get out of Afghanistan & similar countries to reduce these threats- take the target off our backs and take care of our homeland instead of fighting expensive, useless wars in countries that don't want or need us there

Oh, what's the point anymore? Are these articles supposed to scare us into vigilance and security checkpoint lines? Who is not already so desensitized to the idea of terrorism and violence that this story elicits an emotional response approaching zero? Finding "more perverse" ways to kill us, please...

Dear CIA: Thanks for doing a great job. Now, continue doing that and keep it out of the news.

Oddly when they mentioned the "underwear Bomber" they failed to mention that it was revealed in hearings that the bomber was given the "fake bomb" by CIA & FBI with added help from Homelant Security and that the airline was forced to let him on without a passport.

She must of forgot that part just a slip I'm sure she will be back to clarify that.

I doubt everything you just wrote. Your grammar choices certainly did not help your case, either. Please cite a source for this information, please.

Tawd the meatcutter, if there something that you know that we don't know? It's all fixed, they want to take us down!

Jackson - Come on man, you are not serious with that Ron Paul stuff still??? Are you? You do realize he stands absolutely no chance of winning, correct? Oh, you want to stand up for him anyway and waste your vote? Have fun with that!

It is true that we are losing many liberties in exchange for more security, I personally will be more concern if I have something to hide. With the home grown terroism rising thanks to radicals Imams that promote the jihad in our backyard and our laws that protect religion freedom , our agencies cant do a survelance into any Mosque or Madrassa to seek for radicals. AlQaeda is alive like many other groups that are part of the Jihad, the armed branch if the Islam. Even there are many Muslim sects, they all see us like infidels and they must take over our culture in all means. Is is going on in Europe and it is going on here , with more dificult becase most Americans are Christians, alike Europe where they are more secular . Obama during more than three years try to change the perception of the Muslim countries about USA with no success , even he provide help to countries like Egipt , Libya and promote the Arab spring with the help of Hilary Clinton working in France with Muslim disidents. The result was a big failure , ending in more radical groups like Muslim Brotherhood in control of the Egipt government. Afghanistan is another failure , a corrupt goverment and a society living a barbarian way of life under the Sharia law and the Taliban where woman have less value than an animam because that is Mohamad teaching. We are going to live like this for many years untill we defeat the Islam like Spain did many centuries ago.

DatGuy2, proof?

No? Then shut it.

JasonFinPhilly24....You my friend, will awake with a slap to your head, as MR. Paul is NOT out of the picture yet. Don't feel bad though, you have plenty of friends out there.

Ron Paul 2012

US spends $1T per year on defense, and politicians are eager to cut food stamps and free lunch programs to spend even more. Looks like the terrorists are winning...

The new underwear bomb had some “refinements on reliability”

After further testing the CIA stated that it was actually just a "Depends".

It is difficult to undersand these Clintons, Liebermanns, Republicans like John McCains what they say or do.

On one side al-Qaida is planning terror attacks on US targets and on the other, these people want to support al-Qaida in Syria.

Pakis have been backstabbing the US and NATO forces in Afghanistan and the Obama admin and others want to improve relationship with the strategic ally, Pakistan.

On one side, they want to reduce the oil prices. On the other they want to choke Iran's oil supplies and manipulate oil prices high like during Iraq wars!

"They keep trying to devise more and more perverse and in terrible ways to kill innocent people and it's a reminder as to why we have to remain vigilant at home and abroad … protecting our nation and protecting friendly nations and peoples like India and others," she [Mrs. Clinton] added.

Yep, Mr. Obama announced in his Afghanistan's victory lap speech that the al-Qaeda network is within reach of being defeated and denying it a chance to rebuild but the SofS states we must remain vigilant for those terrorists who continue to get training and build up their forces in the ME and Northern Africa:

"And one year ago, from a base here in Afghanistan, our troops launched the operation that killed Osama bin Laden," he said. "The goal that I set -- to defeat al-Qaeda, and deny it a chance to rebuild -- is within reach."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-01/obama-says-with-war-near-end-defeat-of-al-qaeda-in-reach.html

Meanwhile, back in the dark rooms of Yemen, Somalia, et al, the al-Qaeda network continues to develop their "underwear bombs". Taking out terrorists one by one leaves a significant number of individuals who want to assume higher power within the network or to become a martyr. The war of Terror is going to continue for generations.

It appears to me that another plane will go down or attack in a crowded public area will have to happen to before the people in this country remembers and appreciates what our govenrment does to try to protect its citizens. How many people could have died in the years following 9/11 in attacks had this government not done what it has to try to protect you and I.

If anyone knows what perverse is, it would Hillary.

Jonathan: "It is difficult to undersand these Clintons, Liebermanns, Republicans like John McCains what they say or do. On one side al-Qaida is planning terror attacks on US targets and on the other, these people want to support al-Qaida in Syria."

It is really very simple, Jonathan. They all do what is good for Israel.

So I wondering how many of the Dem's that were raising hell for 8 years about Bush's "fear-mongering" are doing the same with Hilary right now? Exactly the same thing.

Hopefully this is start to help all of the "cattle" out there to realize that if you are a Democrap or Republican't, or Tea Bagger you are the first line of problems for our country.

All crooks, all same agendas and all covering for each other. Only difference is that they go out and brand whoever they can first. Are you branded?

@Industrial Strength

why does the media insist upon calling her Hillary Rodham Clinton, either call her Hillary like everyone else or simply the wife of former president Bill Clinton?

Or perhaps we should refer to her properly as the Secretary of State. I'm not sure about you but I don't know her on a first name basis.

Well, gooooood morning! Very heartening to see the top posts dominated by awake, thinking people!!! The FBI has been behind EVERY attempted terror attack since 911.

And, aside from 911 conspiracies...how did stockholders know to dump millions of shares of airline stock the DAY before the attacks....(not a theory)..

Just keep quiet, drink your fluoride, take your prescriptions, and trust your system, everyone! It's all gonna be o.k., we have top men working on it!

Well there was a massive increase in Put Options for the 2 Airlines involved in the days leading upto the event.

Two of the corporations most damaged by the attack were American Airlines
(AMR), the operator of

Flight 11 and Flight 77, and United Airlines (UAL), the operator of Flight 175 and Flight 93. According to
CBS News, in the week before the attack, the put/call ratio for American Airlines was four. The put/call ratio for United Airlines was 25 times above normal on September 6. The spikes in put options occurred on days that were uneventful for the airlines and their stock prices.

On Sept. 6-7, when there was no significant news or stock price movement
involving United, the Chicago exchange handled 4,744 put options for UAL stock,
compared with just 396 call options -- essentially bets that the price will
rise. On Sept. 10, an uneventful day for American, the volume was 748 calls and
4,516 puts, based on a check of option trading records.

Somebody knew something was going to happen

I'll save a long post about the fear mongering and here we go again BS along with the further striping of our rights and boil it down to the post above from Kayner.

I agree and he hit the nail on the head. Stop drinking the party kool aide and you will begin to see it doesn't matter what party you support. In the end they live on a different planet than the rest of us and their motto is do as I say not as I do. It is a two headed snake. You want real change? Then stop the divide and come together. The longer we let the politicians manipulate and distract us with BS issues and problems (many being nonproblems or nonissues) the longer we just end up keeping ourselves divided and will not see any change in our (the American people) favor. Only together do we stand a chance at getting our country back on track.

It is time

PS - glad to see so many posts on here with people who are being to see this for what it is and call BS.

And just to think most of you folks believe what the government and media tells you. I remember very well just a few months ago how most people here wanted to hang, kill, have killed the Stone Family known as the Hutatre group, remember the home grown terrorists. Well I spoke up for these peoples rights and was called all sorts of names. Well guess what The FBI returned military-style gear, credit cards, a watch and a wedding ring Friday to the leader of a Michigan militia who was acquitted last month of conspiring to rebel against the government.

The Stones and five other Hutaree militia members were acquitted last month of conspiring to wage war against the government and use weapons of mass destruction. David Stone, who had been locked up without bail for two years, pleaded guilty to a gun charge and was released. I'm just glad that folks and juries are catching on to how the government are trying to silence people.

Please remember just because the media and the government tells you something does not make it true. Even when they say they may killed a terrorist or stopped a plot it may also not be true. They have a plan and I am glad to see that many of you folks are finally catching on to it. The government are scared shltless of groups like the Hutatree's as there are more of them popping up all over the place because they are sick of having there and our rights sqaushed by big business and nig brother.

It's time to stop being an Internet Ninja on these threads chopping away at the keyboard. It's time get out and do something about it, even if it's to stop this control of the same ole thing in the white house. The good weather is coming, get out and join or even start a protest because if you don't pretty soon it will be to late. I am worried sick about what things in this country are going to be like for my young daughter.

Vote Ron Paul....for real hope and change

Max: Don't we old, sick, huge unemployed and economic miseries count?

I never saw the United States sneak into a crowed market, strap on a bomb and explode it killing hundreds of innocent people either. Terrorists foment "terror" as much as kill people. Terror constantly keeps people afraid and unable to carry on with their lives in a reasonable manner. And it works world wide as in, "I'll think twice before I fly anywhere". THAT is perversity to the max.

I can't defend the US in the killing department but at least we're up front about it. We'll warn you, warn you again, TELL you it's coming and THEN drop the hammer. You're just as dead should you chose to ignore the signs but we seldom sneak up on you and kill you - we'll walk right up and do it and make no bones about it. IF there is honor in killing, that might just be it.

Underwear Bomb 2.0.

Rick, the whole frakin' world thought the same thing (included 99.9% of your democrats in DC) back in 2003-2004 concerning Iraq. Just because you have selective memory recall does not mean everyone else does.

...Rick is something that rhymes with his name...

Mr. Bill -

Kinda depends, doesn't it?

''Perverse ways to kill? You mean like Nuclear Weapons launched from land, air and sea via ICBMS? or perverse weapons such as mines, bombs, missiles, F16s, apaches, tanks, rockets, etc etc''

All the thing's that have insured you don't speak Russian, Chinese or any other language of a country that want's what you have. Where do you think Russia's border's would be today without the US and all the thing's you mentioned. Or what Asia would be like with no one to keep China in check. All the thing's that for the most part put an end to expansionism at the expense and slaughter of every living soul in the area someone else wanted. Given the power and might we had over so many for decade's I say restraint of that power has been pretty good for the most part.

Let's be honest here Rick, with all the weapon's at our disposal the last couple decades there would be no Russia, ME, China, or any other country that disagreed with us if our mentality was anything like some other countries. Or that of a terrorist or that of destruction of other's for our cause, as you mentioned. We have not needed to trade with anyone for a long time. But we do rather than slaughter and take, be it not alway's at a fair rate of exchange but at least an exchange none the less.

I am alway's sorry when people who have born and raised and allowed terrorist to run free and recruit and preach death in there neighborhood are accidentially killed. However just as you can't call yourself innocent when you get caught spending the money your brother robbed from a bank just because you didn't go with him and rob it. Don't call the so called peaceful muslim's innocent either until they start to rise up against the radical one's. Please don't call them innocent victim's when we kill a terrorist where he live's and sleep's and plan's your death and they were close enough to be hurt. Are we alway's right, no but at least for the most part we try and with every weapon that is designed for maximum destruction so to is the radius of destruction a big concern for the appropriate weapon used.

So yes Rick my first thought's also on our constant DOD research. But that is the difference, Defense, that not always play's out correct. However if that terrorist was sitting next to you, he would gladly blow you up, even if you were a bleeding heart radical islamist supporter. While Hillary, well she would just bore you to death, but she nor anyone else of the civil world is out to kill you because you just spoke out against it. Try that in Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, China or Russia for that matter. Go burn a Bible in the land of islam and then burn a Quran, make sure you do the Bible first, or you won't be around to burn anything. Big difference in overall goal's moral's and reason's that I am today glad we have what we have. While before 911, I was against such constant research, boy am I glad they didn't listen to fool's like me and you.

"CIA / al-Qaida plot to destroy US-bound airliner" CIA undercover agents encourage Muslims and supply them with explosives and then arrest the Muslims they supplied, call them terrorists so they can act like heroes. Then they can buy more hookers than the Secret Service.

How this for a concept, we stop bombing them, and they stop bombing us?

but its a holy war.they shoot holes in us and we return the favor.im sure this was all in the creators plan.

Patriotic Chic...Since the dawn of the days of Neanderthals, men have always found reasons to battle with each other.

Just imagine what life would be like if women pulled the same kind of battles men do? Where we stand toe to toe with each other in never ending war. I doubt most of the population on the planet would survive if women killed in battles in the same number as men do.

So, it's always all about men and power. Men consider lack of show of power to be "effiminate". So all the peacock feathers and swaggering is just their foreplay into their never ending next battles.

When you get to my age, you get pretty tired of their childishness. When you get there, you'll see what I mean.

Rick

You must have taken it pretty hard when bin Laden got whacked. You are delusional. You need to see a shrink or relax a bit more with your prettiest camel!

ewent,

That is about the most ignorant, sexist and rediculous combination of words I've ever heard.

As far as "When you get to be my age..." you will be treated for hardening of the arteries which causes the mind to spew garbage like that since a brain needs oxygen to function correctly.

Pathetic!

Iraq wars were most perverse.

Screaming about democracy, human rights, laws, constitution and so on, can there be most idiotic acts than Iraqi wars.

What did the US, Britain, European nations get? Oil prices shot to $145 and many nations bankrupted.

Now Syria and Iran actions are totally perverse and idiotic.

Is it the time to manipulate oil prices again sky high by choking Iran's oil supplies?

On welfare measures, these very perverse politicians count the pennys.

Ewent, 2.9 "Just imagine what life would be like if women pulled the same kind of battles men do"...well, we don't. Never did, unless you believe the myths about Amazons. So, what's your point? That men are all suffering from tetosterone poisoning? When I heard the news on the radio about this bomb, I thought, wow, what freedoms do they want to curtail now? Is this a run up to 'cancelling' the 2012 election for 'security' reasons? Bet you want to call me paranoid and delusional? Well, that's what this is all about anyway. The fear mongering under Bush has continued. All of our government 'spy' agencies need a reason to be, to justify their exsistence. Leave Afghanistan, curtail the MilitaryIndustrial Complex, and go about a life of peace? That's my non-tetosterone 'delusion'.Obama, please earn your Nobel Peace Prize, and call a halt to this insanity.

Ewent -

Perhaps Ms. Clinton, with her native arrogance, could lead this Women's Jihad?

eileen-211,

While you're asking for justification of "spy" agencies, what is your excuse for existing ? Women can exist together better then men and make this world a better place to live? All it would take to start a world wide war (if women ran the world) is two women wearing the same outfit to an official function.

Neither men nor women are better then one another. Only those dilusional sexist types (both sides) think otherwise.

Keep burrying your head in the sand. All the bad people will go away.

"Bin Laden in hiding: Hatching horrific plots despite crippling attacks on al-Qaida"

While the ISI and the CIA were paying the rent on Osama Bin Laden's mansion, his Bush family Bin Laden family friends were paying Osama to write propaganda. This was a great asset to them. To scare the bejesus out of the world is a great tactic in the effort to void the US constitution and make the US government into a military industrial corporation, international bankster monarchy.

Another bright light is seen on the horizon. Clown.

And how old are you? Twelve?

Steve42 ,You moron ,obama hasn't done anything that bush hasn't . Oh excuse me , obama didn't start a meaningless war . IRAQ , Obama didn't send hilary clinton to the u.n. holding up a bottle of white substance and telling everybody about how IRAQ is going to start a biological war on the world . Obama didn't send hilary in front of a camera and tell people that if we don't attack we would see a mushroom cloud. So just shut up you idiot .

I received this in an email yesterday, I haven't snoopes it, yet, but it pretty well sums up the past 3 1/2 years. While the republicans put up the smoke screen of Obama's citizenship, Bush slipped in another 4 years as President. Obama will go down as the 1st black President but Bush will go down as the 1st President to serve 12 years.

Obama is victim of Bush's failed
promises. By a
democrat reporter, Chuck Green.

I think it is time that we asked George
Bush to step aside so that Obama can get his presidency going.

Here's an opinion piece by Chuck Green who
writes "Greener Pastures" for the Denver Post Aurora Sentinel...one of the more
liberal papers in the country. Additionally, Mr. Green is a lifelong
Democrat...so this is rather a stunning piece...

Obama is victim of
Bush's failed promises!

Barack Obama is setting a record-setting
number of records during his first term in office:

Largest budget ever. Largest deficit ever.
Largest number of broken promises ever.

Most self-serving speeches ever. Largest
number of agenda-setting failures ever. Fastest dive in popularity
ever!

Wow! Talk about change.

Just over two years ago, fresh from
his inauguration celebrations, President Obama was flying high. After one of the
nation's most inspiring political campaigns, the election of America’s first
black president had captured the hopes and dreams of millions. To his devout
followers, it was inconceivable that a year later his administration would be
gripped in self-imposed crisis.

Of course, they don't see it as
self-imposed. It's all George Bush's fault!

George Bush, who doesn't have
a vote in congress and who no longer occupies

The White House is to blame for it
all.

He broke Obama's promise, to put all bills on the White House web
site for five days before signing them.

He broke Obama's promise, to have
the congressional health care negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.

He
broke Obama's promise, to end earmarks.

He broke Obama's promise, to keep
unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

He broke Obama's promise, to
close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.

He broke
Obama's promise, to make peace with direct; no precondition talks with America’s
most hate-filled enemies during his first year in office, ushering in a new era
of global cooperation.

He broke Obama's promise, to end the hiring of
former lobbyists into high White House jobs.

He broke Obama's promise, to
end no-compete contracts with the government.

He broke Obama's promise,
to disclose the names of all attendees at closed White House meetings.

He
broke Obama's promise, for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all
matters.

He broke Obama's promise, to have chosen a home church to attend
Sunday services with his family by Easter.

Yes, it's all George Bush's
fault! President Obama is nothing more than a puppet in the never-ending failed
Bush administration. If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, all of
President Obama's problems would be solved. His promises would have been kept,
the economy would be back on track, Iran would have stopped its work on
developing a nuclear bomb and would be negotiating a peace treaty with Israel.
North Korea would have ended its tyrannical regime, and integrity would have
been restored to the federal government.

Oh, and did I mention what it
would be like, if the Democrats, under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry
Reid, didn't have the heavy yoke of George Bush around their necks? There would
be no ear marks, no closed-door drafting of bills, no increase in deficit
spending, no special-interest influence (unions), no vote buying ( Nebraska,
Louisiana ).

If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, we'd have real
change by now.

All the broken promises, all the failed legislation and
delay (health care reform, immigration reform) is not President Obama's fault or
the fault of the Democrat-controlled Congress. It's all George Bush's
fault!

Take for example the attempt of Eric Holder, the president's attorney general,
to hold terrorists' trials in New York City. Or his decision to try the
Christmas Day underpants bomber as a civilian.

Two disastrous
decisions.

Certainly those were bad judgments based on poor advice from
George Bush!

Need more proof?

You might recall
when Scott Brown won the election to the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts,
capturing "The Ted Kennedy Seat", President Obama said, Brown's victory was the
result of the same voter anger that propelled Obama into office in 2008. People
were still angry about George Bush and the policies of the past 10 years. And
they wanted change.

Yes, according to the president, the voter rebellion
in Massachusetts, was George Bush's fault.

Therefore, in retaliation,
they elected a Republican to the Ted Kennedy seat, ending a half-century of
domination by Democrats. It is all George Bush's fault!

Will the failed administration of George
Bush ever end, and the time for hope and change ever arrive???

Will
President Obama ever accept responsibility for something / anything?

(Chuck Green is a veteran Colorado
journalist and former editor-in-chief of The Denver Post.)

It's Bush's Fault!

Well Paul, I'm glad that you are finally getting it. It is Bush's fault!

Hey Paul, you are such a dumbA**. More people like you are to blame along with Bush.

"Reports: CIA leader wanted in USS Cole bombing killed in Yemen airstrike "

Yemen has oil. Therefore all the people living there are terrorists and we must terrorize them and bomb them into submission. This is especially the case for woman because they breed terrorists and their children grow up to be terrorists. CIA's children are more pure and of the supreme race, they shall grow up to be glorious drone pilots.

Hey! If you people want to blame someone, blame yourselves! You don't live right, you don't go to church, you get drunk, you fornicate, you worship basket-baal, foot-baal, helly-wood fake stars, you eat too much, and you don't even believe in God! Where's the root of the problem? YOURSELVES! REPENT!!!

Love hurts, doesn't it, JUSTME? The truth does also. I'm not blaming anyone for my short comings, if I fail, I take responsibility. I wasn't raised to be a victim.

justme34,

If Paul is wrong then please tell the world just WHEN obama started taking responsibility for his policies? Tell the world just WHEN obama stopped reversing his own decisions?

I wouldn't be calling ANYONE a dumbA if I lived in a glass house.

First. Barack Hussein Obama did NOT inherit the White House. Obama begged for it with the longest ever Campaign for President in History. Fact is, he has never STOPPED Campaining.

Second: Barack Hussein is the STANDARD BEARER for the Disaster Housing Crisis that Collapsed the USA Economy and Crashed other Economies across the World.

Third: The Democrats and their insidious Faux give away programs have put the USA on the Direct Path to ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. The Housing Collapse has costs the USA Trillions, lost jobs, families losing homes, home owners losing their homes and all the thousands in equity. Forclosures are the highest of any known Country in the History of the World. Disaster for the USA all because the Democrats "Everyone has a right to a Home and a Home loan." Bill Clinton signed it into Law Funded FNMA to do Subprime Loans to give people who could not afford a home and ultimately destroy the USA Economy.

Do you think Democrats did this for a good reason?? NO. Al Sharpdum, Jesse Jackass, ACORN, OBAMA, AYERS, Pelosi, Reid, Shumur, Durbin, Wiener, Kerry, Kennedy's, Dodd, Frank, made millions on kickbacks from ACORN related Banks and Mortgage Companies. Charging poor people extremely HIGH interest RATES and Charging extremely high FEES on closing their HOME Loans. Trillions wasted and hundreds of Millions made by ACORN and affliated companies. It wasn't for the Poor People, it was for these ugly democrat vultures so they could stuff their bank accounts with CASH.

The same thing was done with Student Loans. Olympia Snow, did not resign from Congress due to being frustrated with Law making, she resigned because HER and HER Husband are being investigated for laundering Billions in Student Loans. Olympia Snow is a Republican, but facts show she is a DE FACTO DEMOCRAT. 100% died in the wool democrat scam artist.

Nancy Pelosi is quilty of the same SCAM. Her biggest supporter that lives in her district in San Francisco WAS the CEO of Phoenix online University and He made hundreds of Millions and gave Nancy Pelosi Millions to pass the Legislation that made it all Possible. Pelosi needs to be in JAIL.

The USA is carring over $1,000,000,000,000 in Student Loan DEBT and much of that has gone to the POCKETS of Democrats.

Lyndon B. Johnson, Democrat, destroyed the Social Security Trust Fund by putting the Trillions in Trust into the General Fund. This way Democrats could buy votes, buy illegal alien votes, buy the Black Vote, buy the Liberal and Communist votes, and they did en masse. NOw, Social Security is Broke.

Why do you think the Demcrats want a Universal Health Care System ran by ACORN??? To make sure poor people get health care?? You're an idiot if you do. Its to gain power and control and have more money to buy votes and stuff in their bank accounts.

The Obama Health Care Law gives, 15 Administrators and hundreds of Community Organizers that will govern YOUR health care, more power and control over YOU than the Constitution gives to all Three Branches of Government. The people who will govern ObamaCare will have more Authority over you than all local, city, County, and Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Combined. Do you think its cause they like you and want you to have good health insurance????

Right now, the Hag of State, Hillary Clinton, Leon Panetta and the Obama Administration is trying desperately to "CEDE" the Soverign Rights and Powers of the USA to the United Nations. Google it.

(Yes, I know that the Obama White House has totally discredited me, by their recent official statement about ET / UFO activity around our world. One day Obama is going to have to personally answer for that, since he has effectively signed the death warrant for the entire human race in the process. In the meanwhile, I guess my job is through, RIGHT ??!!! Have fun with your program "End Times" people, since you all never wanted to listen to me.) - RC

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Obama team: No evidence of extraterrestrial life

By David Jackson, USA TODAY
Nov 06, 2011

The White House says there is no evidence of life beyond Earth -- and no cover-up by the government -- but scientists are still searching.

"The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race," writes an Obama administration official on the White House website.

Phil Larson, who works on space policy and communications at the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy, also writes that "there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye."

President Obama's White House responded to a petition claiming a government cover-up of contact with space life.

RickCarter,

I have two questions about your plan for religions:

(1) Who will set the standars?

(2) Who will enforce the standards?

While I am waiting for your answer, I think I'll call TD Ameritrade and invest in some tinfoil futures.

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?????????????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHTytdRYRAs

Gee, "denver bill 2", how are international treaties usually created and enforced? - RC

Dude! Ease up on the bong! woooow!

(For your information, I am former U.S. Special Forces, 6th Group (Psyops) & 5th Group, top "Go Team" Ft. Bragg, N.C., ETS from active duty 1972.) - RC

Thanks for your service Rick, now go back and read your post on religion and think about it for a few.

To begin with, I personally lived at Wright Patterson Air Force base from 1951 to 1953, while my grandfather (Colonel Charles Faulkner Carter) was second in command there, and he was personally involved in the background investigation into the Roswell Incident of 1947. This Roswell Incident occurred back in 1947 because these ETs were conducting a recon mission of our post World War II nuclear facilities in the western and southwestern United States, as part of a baseline study into our emerging WMD capabilities. This baseline study was potentially important because WMDs have a critical role to play in the future programmed Christian Apocalypse or World War III. These ETs were spotted coming down the Pacific coast in early 1947, by a number of reputable observers. They were particularly interested in the Roswell, N.M. area because the 509th bomber group was stationed there, and they were the only bomber group in the entire world authorized to carry nuclear weapons at the time. These same ETs overflew Washington DC for several weeks in 1952, in order to demand the return of the Roswell crash remains. They chose the middle of the Korean War as the most opportune time to do this, since we had our hands full militarily with the Soviets, the Red Chinese and the North Koreans. These offensive totalitarian ETs repeatedly masqueraded as Divinity (or representatives of Divinity) toward mankind over a period of several thousand Earth years, in the process of covertly installing all three of the dangerous Abrahamic religions into our world. These ETs are hoping to one day steal and annex our extremely valuable celestial real estate, and eventually render mankind extinct on this precious planet one day. They were forced to take this covert approach at territorial conquest in our Milky Way galaxy, which in turn relies upon their eminent domain rights of military intervention in our sector of the Milky Way galaxy, because there are Free Galaxy powers which reside elsewhere in our Milky Way galaxy, who currently stand in the way of overt military conquest on a stellar level. One more time, mankind potentially has countless millions (even billions) of years of growth, development and expansion ahead of them, so long as they do not fall for these ET designed and installed Abrahamic "End Time" religions. - RC

Gee, RickCarter, international treaties are usually created and enforced by nations that are in agreement about something. Good luck finding that agreement regarding restrictions on religion.

The Gov. won't admit that there are ET's Because the public would FREAK OUT. Also religion as we know it would come to an end. (THANK GOD)

Calm down boys! "The Devil is a liar(John 8:44)." Know the truth(Jesus Christ)and the Truth shall make you free.

Oh good grief!!! That's all we need in here is a bible-thumper!

Hey Jerry, "The Devil is a liar". You are being lied to by your Preachers and religion to keep you in the flock, and its working. You are not free, Science will free your mind with facts not myth

Yes, Richard, I am a Bible Thumper, and I'll treat you right, I won't kill you!

BEK1220, Remember that there is a Spiritual world, waiting after death. You are created in the image and likeness of God: body, soul and spirit. America is still a free country, believe whatever you like, you'll stand before God and one day and give an account! have a good day.

Jesus would share the ideology of a democrat if he were here today.

God was an ET who came from the sky and Jesus was a star child, and yes I agree with you, we were made in their image.

America is a free country and will stay that way as long as we don't get a Bible thumper in charge and take away our freedoms and make us have to believe what you believe. You'll see, look up, We are not alone.

Rick Carter.. I think the bong water needs a little changing..

obama didnt say the "war on terror" was over, they just aren't using that term because 'war on terror', like "war on drugs', doesn't mean anything. You must not be paying attention to the daily headlines about drone attacks on terrorists, etc. The ACTUAL attacks against ACTUAL terrorists have ramped up under Obama in fact.

This really isn't that hard to understand, you know.

Not that I was naive about what the United States has been, but at some point US citizens must begin to ask themselves what have we become? We are a rogue state, terrorizing those nations who do not, literally, buy into the neo-liberal economic paradigm, promoting war by selling weapons by the billions abroad, passing legislation bought by the corporate and moneyed interests, and more recently the financialized portions of those interests, and get absurd, bizzarro, statements from our bought and sold elected officials who support this system of control like the ones from our Secretary of State. We now have two parties, bolstered by a corporate media, that are the arms of this apparatus, both corporate, and both evil, one maybe a tad lesser than the other, if of course you exclude foreign policy, which is where they both agree heartedly. The people must learn not to allow all the wedge issues to change this state of affairs, and Occupy Wall Street is pointing the way. The people, united, will never be defeated. So let's see what each of us, in our own small way, can do, to form united efforts to change this broken system.

The Obama Administration, working for Ms. Clinton, DID say it was over.

Here is what was published:

Obama administration announces 'War on Terror' is over; so can we fire
the TSA and repeal the Patriot Act now? [April 24, 2012]

In an astonishing bit of unexpected news, a senior State Department official has announced, "The war on terror is over." That same official continues, "Now that we have killed most of al Qaida, now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism."

http://www.naturalnews.com/035666_war_on_terror_Al_Qaida_Obama.html

Ms. Clinton is too arrogant for a diplomatic post.

Mario 69

Apparently, Vermontguy wasn't paying attention.

I heard that Muslim women are exemt from the TSA screening because of their religion and get right through. IS this true and if it is it boggles the mind. Next thing is we will have a c-cup bomber.

Thom ,just like the sayings ,mushroom cloud ,yellow cake ,and my favorites " bring it on " and " mission accomplished . Now ,do you remember when those words of wisdom were said and by whom . Oh ,and heres another good one . When asked about getting better equipment for our troops fighting in a foriegn land by a captain in the military , these words were spoken " Well , You fight with what you have ". Real show of support there hey dude? And who told the troops that and when ? Can you answer that ? Come on ,be a man ,tell me.

tsa is totally worthless and only in place to teach americans how to live in a prison state.

Yes, I do understand that the bomber was trying to board a plane coming to the US and not a plane leaving from the US. However, because the bomb had no metal parts he would have passed TSA screening and have been boarded while the TSA were busy patting down seniors and small children. Security is no security unless all passengers are treated equally. We are so worried about racial profiling that we ignore the people who fit the profile of past terrorists and instead spend time harassing people who they feel will cause them the least amount of trouble.

stoneemall:

YOU WROTE: "...just like the sayings, mushroom cloud, yellow cake, and my favorites 'bring it on' and 'mission accomplished.' Now, do you remember when those words of wisdom were said and by whom?"

MY RESPONSE: I'm just curious about your alleged grasp of the facts. So, tell me who exactly said "mission accomplished" and in reference to what.

I asked you that because the criticism aimed at former President George W. Bush for allegedly saying “Mission Accomplished” (regarding the war in Iraq) is unwarranted. The fact is the crew of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln wanted a prominent “Mission Accomplished” banner hanging from the bridge of their ship (as a backdrop to Bush’s televised speech about the Iraq War delivered on May 1^st, 2003) to laud their successful completion of a 10-month cruise (a normal cruise is six months); it had nothing to do with claiming that the military mission in Iraq had been completed.

Navy Commander and Pentagon spokesman Conrad Chun even said the banner referred specifically to the aircraft carrier's 10-month deployment (which was the longest deployment of a carrier since the Vietnam War) and not the war itself, saying "It truly did signify a mission accomplished for the crew.”

Also, White House press secretary, Dana Perino, said "President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said 'mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission." But such a banner would have been too long, too verbose, and too clumsy; nevertheless, the sailors knew the exact meaning of the “Mission Accomplished” banner, so they didn’t need a translator. It was the mainstream news media and biased partisan hacks, like you, who twisted the true meaning of that banner to fit their hate-based, anti-Bush agenda.

But to the assembled audience and the world, President Bush basically said, "…Major combat operations in Iraq have ended (referring to the conventional phase of the war). In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country...In this battle, we have fought for the cause of liberty, and for the peace of the world. Our nation and our coalition are proud of this accomplishment - yet it is you, the members of the United States military, who achieved it. Your courage - your willingness to face danger for your country and for each other - made this day possible. Because of you, our nation is more secure. Because of you, the tyrant has fallen, and Iraq is free...The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done. Then we will leave, and we will leave behind a free Iraq."

And according to CBS NEWS senior White House correspondent Bill Plante, the president himself never uttered the words "mission accomplished" (far from it), but that point often gets lost in the passionate feelings about the war. The same point was made, in so many words, by ABC News reporter, Tahman Bradley.

So stop getting your slanted “news” from the Huffington Post.

of course she didn't come up with it by herself, nor does the article say that, nor does she claim it. Stupid post. But looking at the rest of the post, its obvious you are a biased partisan hack, so that explains it.

Bob , Give us a break . Are you that ignorant ,or do you have the memory span of a gold fish ? Who ,had Bin laden trapped in the BORA BORA moutains ,but didn't pull the trigger ? Can you tell me ? Come on ,you poor excuse for a life form .

hillary and the UN want worldwide disarmament of private citizens? really? interesting theory. Got a link?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates36.html

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/02-01-05/discussion.cgi.66.html

Oh yea we are being more than disarmed and no one is paying attention. The people of the US have been sufficiently dumbed down and easily led around by the nose. Now please stay tuned for your next TV propaganda sitcom, news, cartoons and more.

Obama wants the occupy movement to escalate and race riots to start that way he can claim martial law. Obama and Clinton are just purrpet of the big bankers. They are all waiting for the NWO to take over.

lew rockwell? ROTFL!

martial law? ROTFL!

Shel,

In the nightmare scenario you paint, you want your guns for what purpose? You sound excited to be able to unleash the power of the weapons you possess against others. That is sick and wrong. How about focusing on a more positive vision of the future? We just might NOT have an apocalypse, we might just find that sanity ends up ruling the day.

Then you go on to compare deaths from drunk driving to those from gun violence? Drunk driving is a tragedy of a whole other order and circumstance.

You sound really anxious to target "Occupy" folks and persons of other races. That's the ticket, don't like someone's politics or race? Shoot em!

Talk about terrorists and fear mongers, you are the epitome of the very people you claim to oppose!

Here is what was published:

On Wednesday [30 Nov 2011] the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the
complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major
damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary
Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the
Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.

Ms. Clinton is too arrogant for a deiplomatic post such as State Department.

If the suicide bombers use the underwear bomb and blow their own nuts off, what good is it when they meet the 50 virgins they are promised?

Mario,

Paranoid, maybe, ya think? How, pray tell, will the government deal with the millions who will balk at quietly turning in their guns? Imprison millions more? Where? The secret prisons constructed to hold mass bodies that some people write about don't exist ANYWHERE in the real world. Lock up otherwise law abiding Americans in large groups and you believe people will docilely sit idle? They wouldn't revolt en-mass against their guards? What about the rest of the world, will the free press ignore those imprisoned here? Ignore the slaughter that will surely result from organized uprisings across the country? Are our police and military so mindless that they would blindly follow orders to use deadly force against millions of Americans including their own families, friends, fellow soldiers and officers?

Your paranoia is firmly rooted in the "propaganda" you choose to peruse! Your vision for the future is sick, unsupported by anything based in reality and people like yourself, who believe such nonsense are not just misguided but dangerously deluded!

Since when do international treaties bind Americans to international law and invalidate our national laws? Or do you suggest that international laws are simply adopted and added to our national laws by signature to a treaty? That is PREPOSTEROUS! Either get a grip or go back to your bunker, hunker down and avoid the reality that surrounds you each and every day!

Chicken Little caused panic in the barnyard by yelling that the sky was falling, are you related to her?

Then you go on to compare deaths from drunk driving to those from gun violence? Drunk driving is a tragedy

No Sighbor Drunk driving is a tragedy and should be compared because someone made the decision to get behind the wheel drunk. That is the same as pointing a loaded gun at someone, at any minute a life may be taken. Drunk driving is a crime and when someone takes a life-drunk driving vehicular homocide that person should receive the same sentence as second degree murder or 20 year minimum.

And yes I want my guns, it may be to hunt, protect myself from crime or if necessary to the security of a free State.

If you don't think the government has a plan then look at what they said about the Hutaree group and how bad they were. Well guess what, they were aquitted of the charges against them

Mr. sighber -

I agree with some of the results you point out. I wish Ms. Clinton 'The Arrogant' has seen them, too.

Fishman,

I never advocated taking anyone's gun away. I do abhor the tragic consequences of unrestricted gun ownership. Many people stand behind their weapons and crow about their ownership rights while oblivious to the impact the threat of their use has on everyone else's freedom. Guns for hunting are one thing but those who only own them for "self protection" often pose more of a threat to themselves, their family and friends than those who depend on civil order. If you own a gun and don't regularly practice your marksmanship you likely pose more of a risk to those you seek to protect than the imagined threat that inspired you to buy the gun in the first place.

As to drunk driving, I never suggested that it was not a crime or that it should not be prosecuted but comparing gun violence to that of a drunk driver is a stretch I am not comfortable making. The outcome of both are equally tragic and need to be vigorously prosecuted but we must recognize the difference between the malice required to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger verses the impaired judgement that results in someone climbing behind the wheel of an automobile and getting into an accident.

good lord, it was just part of a standard political speech. 99% of everything everyone says isn't profound.

Not really. Many spouses do, for a variety of reasons.

good lord, it was just part of a standard political speech. 99% of everything everyone says isn't profound.

I bet you worship the ground that NEWT walks on . IGNORANCE IS IN FULL BLOOM .

.....and they impeached Nixon for what?

Things will get worse if the islamists were to take over pakistan. Certainly they are a "mixed ally", but a large portion of their country also fights terrorists. Cutting all ties would only help the islamists.