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Sebastian Scheiner / AP
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, left, and Kadima party leader Shaul Mofaz shake hands before holding a joint press conference announcing the new coalition government in Jerusalem on Tuesday.
TEL AVIV – Love him or hate him, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is proving to be the consummate politician.
Within a space of 24 hours he surprised Israelis by first announcing early elections – and then astonished them by changing his mind and presenting them with a new government.
Opposition leaders were outraged. One party leader, Zahava Gal-On, called the move a “mega-stinking maneuver by a prime minister who wants to avoid elections and a desperate opposition chairman facing a crash.”
The centrist Kadima party – the Israeli Parliament’s largest party reeling from defections, a change in leadership and a loss of direction – joined Netanyahu’s right-wing coalition Tuesday to form one of the largest governing blocs in Israel’s history.
'Strong signal to Tehran': Israel forms unity government amid Iran tensions
The combined 94 seats out of 120 in parliament could theoretically give Netanyahu the power to pass any legislation he wants.
The question is: What does he want?
What’s the strategic goal?
Critics, suffering from whiplash, claim he just wants to stay in power. But others argue he was a clear favorite to win elections anyway.
So if he seeks to achieve a strategic goal, rather than a short-term political advantage, what is it?
Israel faces two major internal issues that had triggered the push for early elections, even though the next national election is not due until October 2013. One is what to do about the confrontation with West Bank settlers who continue to expand their homes. The other is how to make the growing ultraorthodox population serve in the military. That is an especially hot topic since service in the Israel Defense Forces is compulsory for all other Israelis – including women.
Another key question is how to change the political system to eliminate the power of small parties, which has been Israel’s weakness since its foundation in 1948. Concerns about the economy and the widening gap between the rich and poor is another urgent issue.
Many argue that a coherent, stable and large government would be freer to reach critical and tough decisions on these polarizing topics. Of course, in Israel, a strong coalition also translates to being freer to take on the power of the orthodox Jewish parties.
Iran: To attack or not to attack?
Externally, there is one overriding question: Iran. To attack, or not to attack?
Should Israel give American-led sanctions a chance? Or pre-empt the development of an Iranian nuclear weapons program by bombing its nuclear facilities?
Under the terms of the new deal, Shaul Mofaz, who just became the Kadima party’s leader in March, will become a deputy prime minister and Netanyahu’s stand-in when he is out of the country.
Israel’s top three leaders are now all security experts: Netanyahu, is a former special forces fighter; Ehud Barak, the defense minister, is Israel’s most decorated soldier; and Mofaz, who was incidentally born in Iran, is a former army chief and defense minister.
Add Moshe Yaalon, a deputy premier and another former army chief of staff, and Israel’s government could be perceived as increasingly belligerent; or seen from a different perspective, even better able to defend itself.
Gerald Steinberg, a political scientist at Bar-Ilan University near Tel Aviv, said the new coalition “sends a very strong signal to Tehran, but also to Europe and the United States, that Israel is united and the leadership is capable of dealing with the threats that are there if and when it becomes necessary.”
That is the main result of such a wide coalition: the government should be able to push through almost any plan of action, in any field.
But the question remains: Will Netanyahu use his new overwhelming parliamentary majority to push through much-needed reform? Or just to stay in power? Or, as some fear, to put together wider Israeli support for an attack against Iran?
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"The most significant action Israel could take to demonstrate good faith would be a settlement freeze." - President Reagan 1983 (so much for taking Reagan's advice)
The New Israel Lobby
The Israel lobby had succeeded in ruling almost any criticism of Israel out of bounds, especially in Congress. “The bottom line,” Mearsheimer and Walt wrote, “is that Aipac, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress, with the result that U.S. policy is not debated there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/magazine/13JStreet-t.html
Israeli spy Pollard
The most damaging to America, anti-American spy in history since the Rosenberg's sold Russia American nuclear secrets. Netanyahu has demanded Pollard be released to Israel. http://tinyurl.com/yvqznh
How come every time there is an article about Israel, the comments here have absolutely nothing to do with the actual story? Instead, its the resident anti-Israel trolls spreading their lies, misinformation, and otherwise retarded rhetoric.
I mean, do you guys really lurk and wait till a new story pops up so you can just copy and paste your BS? There is literally 8 or 9 of you guys and you account for 80-90% of all Israel hating crap here.
Al:
Ditto---they love these articles so the can spread their hate.
It is not just Jews they despise, but all people i.e, Blacks, Hispanics, and other cultures who do not "fit" their illiterate standard.
Hitler would have loved to have had them working for his desire to have a Perfect Aryan Nation.
This is probably a good alliance in these times of the pyschos like Iran,hamas and hezbollah threatening Israel.A national unity government above regular party politics.The settlements are not the problem,Israel has given up land before.The problems is that since 1948 the Arabs in the neighborhood rejected a 2 state solution to reflect their own reality as Israel reflects the Jewish historical connection. When all Arab nations accept Israel as most countries did in 1948 then all things are possible.If not ther Palestinians who deserve a state and were offered one will continue to dig their own grave by trying to destroy a sovereign country.Meanwhile this seems like a good alliance,Time will tell.....
Deal with your own problems Jews. Stop hiding behind american might, stop corrupting our government, and stop wearing those stupid hats
I doubt it would have made any difference as there was one years later, for 10 months there was a freeze on new building but the Palestinians still refused to talk.
This news makes the war with Iran almost certain. Israeli warmongers win yet again...
Actually Max it will most likely mean the opposite. Thank you for your insight, it is most likely incorrect. A stronger Israel does not mean war, usually it has the opposite effect.
There is a big difference between action and words, Politics is a game of bluffing and doing what you mean. Will Iran make a bomb if they could. They may talk the talk, but will they build one and test it. If they did, it is not Israel they will have to fear, but Saudi Arabia. The Saudi's would most definitely use their oil bargaining chip with the USA to get nuclear arms. Thus another cold war starts.
Israel may make talk strong, but will they act? Who knows?
Max- if you call Israel an warmonger, you must also include the USA, Russia, China, England and most of all you must include the religion of Islam as a warmonger. Since the Koran tells its followers to kill christians and Jew. The Christian bible never tells anyone to kill any body. "Thou shall not Kill" what would Jesus do?
israel is a rogue state and a warmonger. Period.
It's fun that a jew would quote from the bible, since you think christians are dogs.
Benjamin Netanyahu is a religious bigot and nut case.
Keep away from battles between mad Shiites represented by Iran and Syria vs Sunnis consisting of worse despotic, highly corrupt, bigoted Saudi, Kuwaiti and UAE rulers.
To bring down oil prices remove the sanctions on Iran oil.
WMD of Iran is a long way off. Pakis have plenty of nukes on sale or for stealing.
Sane Jews of Israel and US should force the Netanyahus from jumping into Iran and Syria just like Iraq.
Let us worry about winners later.
The first piece of legislation / constitutional amendment should be to SCRAP proportional representation. This will stop those small extremist minority parties dictating (usually blackmailing) adoption of a very narrow agenda.
WTF, durt bagg is just making stuff up again. In 1983 Israel offered the Palestiniens a shared state which they rejected. End of story durt_bagg, it's nice to see that you don't like to tell the whole truth. After the rejection President Reagan agreed that the Arabs were not negotiating in good faith and reopened up the door for more settlements. Now, 29 years later durt_bagg has his loss of memory. Nice try! Yes, Israel even gave land away to have a deal but the Arabs only wanted Israel's destruction
A united Israel is very good for dealing with a crazy Iran. A united Israel is good for all in the middle east except Israel's enemies.
Good thing Alan to clarify what Reagan actually did..And I agree with you about a United Israel and for the good of the whole world.Iran,,Hezbollah and even Hamas have strong connections to the international Islamic terrorist movement.And their goals are not only to destroy Israel but to carry out terrorist attacks all over in the name of their perverted ideas and most of their victims are other Muslims who don´t go along.But the infidels which is all of the 3.5 billion non Muslims are also in their sights.to be blown up or have our throats slit.The alliances between Muslim groups and countries and no Muslim countries is essential to finish off this cancer called Isalmic terrorism and Israel is a vital component in that plan as they are in the front lines of Iran and their deadly puppets !!
Benjamin Netanyahu is continuing his policy of fear and confusion to retain his leadership roll without ever once providing any meaningful leadership. He has never provided anything to resolve or at least get moving a deal with the Palestinians and he never will as that would take away the fear factor and people would see him for what he is: Which is a very small man. YMMV
Israel has offered the Palestinians, who don't deserve it, peace many, many times. The Palestinians have never responded in a positive manner. Time for Israel to simply move forward and leave them where they are. This is a message to Iran and now its up to Iran to decide whether or not they want to protect their own people or expand Islam's war against the west.
Hold onto your hats, guys, and also hold your noses, because Mr. No Class is at it again...fresh from his appearance on another site, saying things like "Jews hide, Americans die"...and then complaining because some people call him a Jew baiter.
Jeff:
You put your foot on guys neck and say negotiate, that is not negotiation. Even Judaism will not call it a negotiation. You have a right to be pro Israel. However you do not have a right to say things our of context for people to beleive in.
Most people do nto beleive you
Cassandra:
Telling a truth about a friend does not him make Friend hater. Extremist Jews who are AMerican citizens should know we do not occupy foreign land. If you do not know that an d beleive in that then you do not know this country as well you know Israel. Yoru loyalty is there.
The perswon is just saying the facts. I bet your Mom even will disagree with you sometime vehemently but she does not hate you and you know it.
Hugh Class
Land Thieves Hmmmm. Let see, lets talk about the Muslim Crusaders. Arab Muslim invaders around 650 AD invaded and kill Jews and Christian alike and took Jerusalem and the land of Judah. Around 700 to 800 AD Arab Muslim invaded present day Spain in threaten to invade France. Muslim Turks invaded Constantinople in 1453. Question who came first? The Christian crusaders (1095 AD) or the Muslims Crusaders (650 AD)
Segregation- Lets see there are no Gays in Iran (they are all executed). Look at the segregation the Christian Egyptians are facing. In some Muslim countries if a woman is rape by a man, she is the criminal for seducing the man.
The Muslim are just upset the the very people they kick out of Judah in 650 AD have come back and kick the Muslims out.
All Jews have Biblical rights to Judah and Jerusalem. Jews rarely except converts, Try getting an adult man to circumcise himself. Jews are been the most persecuted people through out history. So how many converts do you think they would get? If a person openly presents themselves as Jewish, they most likely have genetic attachment to the land of Judah, from before 1000BC. While presented day Palestinians are Arabs not Jews. Arabs invaded Judah around 650AD (the Muslim invasion)
Non-Muslim are persecuted every day in predominately Muslim countries. Example Christian Egyptians, Christian Syrians, any Non-Muslim in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia and Afghanistan to name a few.
Jeff:
Perfectly explained---
No one is going to protect Israel, except Israel.
Anti Semitism is rampant around the World.
The Jewish people are survivors; who can say that about any other ethnicity---or people. Persecution is their challenge from generation to generation since Bibilical Times..
Let Iran destroy itself.
March, in a way I am sorry that Mr. No Class had his latest vicious, venomous ravings deleted, because they would have shown how virulent anti-semitism still is. Believe me, it has nothing to do with my mother disagreeing with me, as Godgrav so absurdly put it.
Not you again Cass babe. Are you get tired of defending the wrong doings of your master.
And not YOU again, von Dorf! You will be happy to hear that your old friend Ralph H has joined us, too, along with Abdallah Abdallah and some fresh new talent, Mr. No Class. His own motto is, "Jews hide, Americans die." So all together now, guys..."Heil, heil, the gang's all here."
Yet to see martin bart, steve b to join in the debate.
We do miss A. Smith lately who championed for the plight of the Palestinians. But fortunately we have more righteous people like Raph H and Abdallah and other new talents joining the rank to speak out against the evil deeds of the zionist regime.
My motto is jews ok, zionists not ok and nittyahoo must go.
GODGRAVITON
What rock do you leave under? History is full of one side have to do just that because the other side are idiots! We did it to the loseing side in the civil war, WWI and WWII just to name a couple.
The arabs have had 67 years to make peace. The palestinians have been sticking they head in sand waiting on some outside force. While their heads were buried they miss the fact the world pass them by. The arab league stop attacking Israel. The cold war end and UN found bigger fish to fry in Eastern europe. NO one is going force Israel to agree to anything with out the palestinians first sitting down talking like they should have done years ago. Its the palestinans that have made peace talks one sided by refusing to talk. Several of their demands are pipe dreams after 45 years of people doing what people do and that is live their lives. East J was never arab to begin with. It was only arab for 19 years after militry occuipation by Jordan. Most of city that was taken by jordan in 1948 was jewish and had been for centurys. Jerulsum was a Jewsih majority city in 1948 and had been for more than 50 years.
In many countries, in many situations, a "unity" government has been a prelude to war. A leader with a solid majority in the parliament is always very desirable so that the public has the preception that the entire leadership is for war.
My guess is that with over a dozen high-ranking past and current officials and military going on the record as being opposed to any attack on Iran as "hare-brained", that these people had some inside information that either the countdown to bombing Iran had actually commenced or that this surprise "unity" government was getting close to being announced and this would give Netanyahu a bullet-proof majority in the Knesset that would facilitate such a countdown.
Iran is outside the effectiveness envelope of the IDF. It is simply too far away, too large a country, with targets that are too well-defended and would require the overflight of multiple unfriendly countries on the way in and out. People simply do not seem to understand that most of Iran's nuclear facilities would simply shrug off any atack with conventional weapons --- including bunker-busters and MOAB's. And if you go look on Google Earth at the site just north of Q'om, you will see that it is in a u-shaped mountain at the back of the bowl. That means that any attacking aircraft must fly directly up a narrow path to strike the entrance. And if you scan out along that path you will see AAA and SAM emplacements, and the "possible S-400 site" that has the IDF so scared. And that's just one target.
Israel would find it difficult to use missiles because their missiles with that range only accomodate either a nuclear warhead or conventional explosives that are too little to doo all that much damage to a hardened target. (And the North Koreans have been helping the Iranians harden their military sites.) Even bomb loads of conventional munitions would be very small due to the external stores of fuel that would be necessary.
There are two alternatives that are not being discussed: a) using the IDF's huge stores of binary nerve gas which would be small enough to be sent by missile or fghter-bombers with refueling, or b) actually going after some other target --- such as Iran's Achilles Heel, their oil refineries and crude transshipment points and pipelines. Iran can't even produce half of all the refinery products that it uses, trading crude oil for gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, kerosese, etc. These refineries and oil facilities are extremely easy targets and particularly hard to defend.
Unless US assistance is assured, any IDF adventure into Iran wold probably fail because of the distance, the relative invulnerability of the targets, and the unfriendly countries over which they would have to transit and refuel.
If Israel did attack Iran, and especially if it used nerve gas or nukes, the Iranians would immediately most likely respond with an attack on a US Navy capital ship in the Persian Gulf or transiting the Straits of Hormuz. The problem with the Gulf and Straits are that they are both very shallow and difficult to maneuver in. An aircraft carrier would be pretty much a sitting duck, especially if it was transiting the Straits with hundreds of guns and missiles poionting at it.
If Israel goes anything tangible to prepare for a strike against Iran, Iran would most likely close the Straits of Hormuz along with their ally Oman. They have the legal right to do so since the Straits are fully territorial waters of Iran and Oman and treaties require one side to shut down traffic if the other side does. Iran could still function by transshipping to points east of the Straits.
Israel has suffered from its birth as a country from two unfortunate aspects of its history. a) Most of its early leaders were terrorists themselves, or like Goplda Mier, approved of their acts of terrorism against both the British and the Arabs. Terrorists seldom have good skills at governance. b) From the get-go the country was overly influenced by European Jews, mostly from various Zionist movements. Middle Eastern Jewry had long ago found its balance with Muslims, as Coptic Christians had done in Egypt. But these European Jews brought with them all the old European hatreds and grudges and swept native Jewish Palestinians aside especially after WWII. The former guaranteed that Israel would see everything from a paranoid point of view. The latter resulted in numerous small parties and a country so fragmented that it cound only be governed by coalitions. Every country that has had to govern that way has failed eventually. Too many bizarre promises have to be made to too many radical minority groups for there to be any rhyme or reason to their policies.
But we have reached a position where a woman in Iran is killed for hiring people to murder her husband (mostly reported in the press as having "lived with two men") and it makes front-page news. But when an Ameican tourist is beaten into permanent disability because the wore a red shirrt and black pants in the "wrong" neighborhood, then it doesn't get printed. And when the prople who beat here are found, they are allowed to walk free because their untra-orthodox deonimnation permits it. A point where Israel is allowed to have around 200 nuclear warheads built with parts and plans stolen from the US and Iran is severely berated for even trying to have primitive steps in that direction.
And if indeed a bombing of Iran is already in countdown or is about to be committed to a countdown, I would think that the most likely time would be around late August or early September --- just before the next Presidential election when Netanyahu would perceive the President the most easily manipulated. I say manipulate because that is Netanyahu's only political option since there is a huge amount of personal animus between Bibi and Barrak.
I was an old North Korean intelligence analyst and it is shocking how many parallels I can come up between North Korea and Israel. They are very similar "rogue" states who use the threat of wars they couldn't possible win to bully and manipulate their "sponsor" states, the US and China respectively. But the Israelis, because of the limitations imposed by their coalition governments, are much more likely to make a mis-step in their game of brinkmanship that a dictatorship like North Korea.
But all my experience and what I can find to read all pretty much tellsme the same thing. There is no monolithic "Muslim world." Muslims are the most fragmented groups in the world. Left alone, they would revert to exactly what they have done for perhaps 15,000 years: They would bicker and fight with one another and would pose absolutely no threat to Israel whatsoever. Americans tend to think of all Muslims being the same, but they're not. You have Muslims whose denomination celebrates both Christmas and Easter, and denominations so fundamentalist that they want to destroy Mecca and all Muslim pilgrimage mosques because they have become icons and thus are false idols of and in themselves.
You say that Israel has 200 nuclear warheads, Chris? Stop trying to cheer me up.
I think nate is trying to get all involved in his sick policies......
he just did not go it alone; When things go south, which most certainly will, thousands of isrealis dead in the hands of iranis, he just does not want to be the ONLY one who freaked up....
Israel can do wahtever it wants.
Just do not come to us for WMD and money. If Israel meshes up and have no firend in the world, don't come crying to us.
This is warning to American Jews too. Rich Jews here are the hawkiest and are driving these extremist. I haope President of USA has guts liek Eisenhover to tell the Israel, you make trouble for us, You can go to hell all we care. These Israel lovers, who wants to live here and want to support events against interest of American people are as good as AL Queda terrorist. They are religous extremist like Muslim extremist and do not care for any one else.
It is shame these bright, talents, entrepeunerial, absolutely friendly and worthy of great relations are so blinded by the past that they cannot see peaceful future. One thing for sure throught the history Jews have found them as victims and when ever they had power has been victimiser.
If they do cannot see path in a middle where one can live in harmony at a table with others in equality and faternity and future, we just keep our counsel and block them out of our mind and our national affairs.
My feeling is that many people started to see it already.
people are asking questions and demanding these slimes to state where they stand.... No more wishy washy BS... You like isreal more than US, get the freak out of here....
The only problem is the media is still shy about putting this story to the news. But, most jews in media (editors, writers etc) are not bloodsuckers like LAs vegas venice mogul sheldonna... They will come around and put these stories on the cover page..
The yellow bellies in Israel will not attack Iran. Israel only attacks countries or peoples who are unable to strike back. The one exception, was when they struck Egypt with a sneak attack, destroying the Egyptian air force while it was still on the ground.
When fighting on then ground, the IDF was soundly whipped by a ragtag group from Hezbollah, when they attacked Lebanon and had to flee back to Israel like whipped dogs. During that conflict, Israel had the planes, helicopters and tanks. How could they face the Iranians, who actually have the ability to shoot down Israeli aircraft.
Israel relies on the US to do the real fighting and dieing, while they sit back and collect their "aid to Israel", which amounts to over $500 for each man, woman and child in Israel. Thed Iraq war for Israel, will cost America over 3 trillion dollars.
Zionist warmongers like Ken Adelman and the Zionist Washington Post pushed the war in
an editorial titled, “Cakewalk in Iraq.” Jewish supremacists Richard Perle and
Paul Wolfowitz told you that Iraq would “Welcome us as liberators.” Iraq became
the longest war in American history. Here is a report from USA Today: “Pentagon
officials estimated for the first time Wednesday that up to 360,000 Iraq and
Afghanistan veterans may have suffered traumatic brain injuries.” Now that’s
not counting tens of thousands who have suffered maiming, amputations, or death
in this war based on lies.
I guess they were a little off in their sales pitch.
Ralph H, you are just in time to tell us yet again that the Jews killed Jesus. That has been the basis of Jew baiting going back to the Middle Ages...but I must say that you sound almost rational, compared to Mr. No Class. And Abdallah never claims to be anything but an Arab, who describes wealthy Jews as "slime," so he at least deserves credit for honesty. Heil, Heil, the gang really IS all here. It never fails: Whenever we see a headline about Israel, we are sure to see Jew baiters coming out of the woodwork.
I miss Hugh-hate-Jew Class, what a bag of s-h-i-t fun he was, maybe he had a heart attack. Now Mohamed- RalphH is here to entertain us. Soon the Iranazi illiterates will start voting for him.
Abdullah Abdullah perhaps you should check out Islamic Banking what a big greedy show that is. Lets see - Iran owns I think 7 out of 10 Islamic banks which rakes in billions and billions of holy dollars. Then check out the oil rich arabs such honest slime-balls!
Kate - Here is a video of the WTCs for your entertainment. It proves that the buildings went down in a controlled demolition. Remember, all 3 buildings were owned by Silverstein, a Zionist, who had control of security. The video is 14 minutes long. No one with a brain, can watch this video and not determine the buildings were brought down by someone other than those in the planes. The people testifying are well qualified professionals, with impecable credentials.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3dW_gUwOg
kate,
my pleasure!!!
I missed hugh too.. he was harsh but most of what he said was right.
btw, my real name is moshe..middle name is yitzhak and last name is crookowitz
I disagree with half the things you post but I'm sure you have a heart buried in your backyard somewhere crookowitz.
Israeli right-wingers, GOP Tea Party, Taliban, Hamas - all the same war mongers pushing fear. Don't think that people who work for peaceful resolutions are anti-Jewish. Bomb Iran and you do nothing more than shake a hornet's nest and insure that the nuclear bomb gets built. The time is coming when the reasonable people who want a sensible foreign policy is going to put a stop to all the right-wing fear and warmongering.
So, who represents those reasonable people in Iran?
nittyahoo must go. he is a danger to the world peace.
Israel can do what it will, just don't involve the USA in another mid-east war. we have fought proxy wars for isreal long enough. i fear though that all this activity is the prelude to an attack on Iran and the hope of Israels militarist politicians to keep the USA mired in another mid-east war. it seems like Israel has many active and powerful lobbyists in congress and that is troubling because the US congress pays no attention to voters only paid lobbyists.
Does anyone believe that Israel and those of Jewish decent after all history has put upon them will sit and allow Iran or anyone else for that matter to kill their people? I think not. Israel would rather go down fighting to the end rather than go guietly into the pages of history.
Peace will only come when the USA butts out--Let israel deal with it's own problems. Believe me, then we will have peace, most likely in 60 seconds or less.
US was not helping Israel in the 40s or 50s or 60s, and yet there was no peace.
That might have something to do with Arab states repeatedly attacking Israel.
The US not helping Israel in the 60s? I suggest you read these links. The US got plenty of help in the 60s from Lyndon Johnson, who was Jewish on his maternal grandparents side. He wasn't a practicing Jew, but he was a Zionist.
http://lennybendavid.com/2008/05/lyndon-johnsons-historical-connection.html
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/36262/friend-ally-savior-revealing-lbj-s-jewish-ties/
On top of that, the bastard, covered up the attack on the USS Liberty. He didn't want to embarrass our friends in Israel. If Americans at the time knew what had happened, there might have been an outbreak of anti semitism.
It was the Israelis who started the 1967 war. Zionists have their hands in many wars, including Iraq and Afghanistan.
The theft of more land and war with Iran.
These Pigs are starting WW3 and I will be happy to see this! There are WAY too many people on this earth!
Israel is not even a real country - at least no more than a bank robber is an aristocrat!
Pull your head out and take a breath sometime.
Any bets Barack Hussein Obama will object to this?
BTW - As for the Muslim Lovers on here ... Muslims have not lived up to a single agreement of any type siged with Israel in the last 60 plus years. However, it does prove a Muslim's "word" is worthless!
And just which tribe of Muslims have been kicked out of all the other Muslim countries, and forced to live on the West Bank? Why were they kicked out of the Muslim countries? Is it because the Palestine's people are bad, or just low informed, trouble makers?
Hate Israel all you want, I could care less about them, but why not answer my questions about those so called peace loving Palestine's freedom fighters. They as a tribe has never owned or developed any property. At one time, the Muslim world did have the best math, architects, etc. Then the crazy mullahs got into power, and today, they cannot design, build or engineer anything. They Muslim's need the non-believers to help run their countries.
Take away the oil, they have nothing. They are still a couple of centuries behind the western world, all because of their religion runs their govt. And they think by their jihad's, they can acheive something?
Take away the American aid to Israel and lets see how they do. We have been supporting their worthless, war mongering a$$es, to the tune of over 100 billion dollars, over the years and billions more in military hardware. As a reward they attacked the USS Liberty, killing 34 and wounding 172. Then the were complicit in 9/11, helping to bring the WTCs down in controlled demolitions.
Read the article on the 5 Dancing Israelis, who in all probability, were the ones who set the charges.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html
Isreal cannot do jacksh*t w/out US help..
Lets face it, even high tech advantages isreal has, they can not only win any war, most likely lose it against any decent country.
Even the mullahs in lebanon with rifles and dumb rockets kicked isreali butt.
Consider a scenario, isreal actually succeeds in fighting with iran or any other formidable country; They go and wipe out half of irans air force, navy and army.. But , they probably will lose quarter of their own forces. Of course, isreal cannot afford it, so they want US do the fighting for them...
isrealis think they beat the arabs by themselves decades ago... US helped them win it.
Without US, isreal cannot do a thing..
So the World Trade Center was blown up by the Jewish owner...and five Israelis danced in public to celebrate the event...and Lyndon Johnson was Jewish. RIIIIIGHT! Just for starters, those Israelis must have been terribly dumb. But I suppose that the passengers on Flight United 93 thought that they were auditioning for a movie, when they kept saying on their cell phones Arab terrorists had taken over the plane.
Oh, and as for Lyndon Johnson's Jewish mother, here's what Wikipedia had to say...
Johnson was maternally descended from a pioneer Baptist clergyman, George Washington Baines, who pastored some eight churches in Texas as well as others in Arkansas and Louisiana. Baines was also the president of Baylor University during the American Civil War. George Baines was the grandfather of Johnson's mother, Rebekah Baines Johnson (1881–1958).
Research into Johnson's personal history indicates that he inherited his concern for the
Jewish people from his family. His aunt Jessie Johnson Hatcher, a major
influence on LBJ, was a member of the Zionist Organization of America. As a
young boy, Lyndon watched his politically active grandfather "Big Sam"
and father "Little Sam" seek clemency for Leo Frank, the Jewish
victim of a blood libel in Atlanta. Frank was lynched by a mob in 1915, and the
Ku Klux Klan in Texas threatened to kill the Johnsons. Johnson's speechwriter
later stated, "Johnson often cited Leo Frank's lynching as the source of
his opposition to both anti-Semitism and isolationism."
Lyndon Johnson’s maternal ancestors, the Huffmans, apparently migrated to
Frederick, Maryland from Germany sometime in the mid-eighteenth century. Later
they moved to Bourbon, Kentucky and eventually settled in Texas in the
mid-to-late nineteenth century.10
According to Jewish law, if a person’s mother is
Jewish, then that person is automatically Jewish, regardless of the father’s
ethnicity or religion. The facts indicate that both of Lyndon Johnson’s
great-grandparents, on the maternal side, were Jewish. These were the
grandparents of Lyndon’s mother, Rebecca Baines.11
Their names were John S. Huffman and Mary Elizabeth Perrin.12
John Huffman’s mother was Suzanne Ament, a common Jewish name. Perrin is also a
common Jewish name.
Huffman and Perrin had a daughter, Ruth Ament Huffman,13
who married Joseph Baines14
and together they had a daughter, Rebekah Baines,15
Lyndon Johnson’s mother. The line of Jewish mothers can be traced back three
generations in Lyndon Johnson’s family tree. There is little doubt that he was
Jewish.
There are many closet Jews in America and many in American politics, who shade the whole truth when it comes to their heritage. Politians do what it takes to get them elected.
Ralph, so that is how you spend your time? or did you just copy it? Never heard of Jews named Ament or Perrin. so what? many people at the time were affected by the Leo Frank lynching. so now you also promote the blood libel nonsense? Johnson was also involved in Mexican-American rights.
Well maybe this will set a good example, and the Palestinians will actually have another election. hahaha!
Jewish Racism
Thursday, March 19, 2009
The World's Worst Were and Are Jews
Christopher Jon Bjerknes
http://www.jewishracism.com
http://www.jewishracism.blogspot.com
Bernard Madoff, whom "Muhammad Rafeeq" defended as if innocent, is now the World's worst convicted thief and swindler. Madoff tops off a long list of Jewish thieves, including but not limited to the Jewish "Russian oligarchs". Of course, the Rothschilds were worse thieves than Madoff, but were not convicted of their crimes.
The Jews have collectively stolen the land of Palestine repeatedly throughout their history. The Jews' Torah itself states that the Jews are not indigenous to Palestine and are a race of thieves in search of a land to steal. Genesis 17:8 states:
Jews are, by their own accounts, theives who stole Palestine from its native peoples. Yet Jews grew enraged at the Greeks and Romans who created tolerant colonies in Palestine, and the Jewish Zionists of the ancient world, by their own accounts, genocided Greeks and Romans and destroyed the Greek and Roman Empires.
The World's most prolific pornographers are also all Jews, as are the heads of the World's prostitution and slavery rings. The World's worst genocidal murderers were all Jews, including Talaat Pasha, Lev Bronshtein (Leon Trotsky) and Lazar Kaganovich. Mao Tse Tung and the Chinese Communist mass murderers were all working for, and carrying out the genocidal orders of, the Jewish bankers who placed them in power. They followed the ruinous political philosophy of the Jew Karl Marx. The Jews claim that Reinhard Heydrich and Adolf Eichmann conspired to murder six million Jews. Heydrich's father was a Jew and Eichmann was a full-blooded Jew and self-described fanatical Zionist.
Mal--Israeli foreign policy is a fair target for criticism, but when you start posting classic libelous clap like above, you cross into antisemitism and depart from legitimate debate.
You can hate Jews all you want, but without Israel to complain about, the Arab countries would have to focus on their own inferiority and failed societies. I hope your hatred consumes you. The Jews will be around long after you and your type disappear.
Semites are not just Jews, so your misuse of the word to gain pity is really pathetic. Are people that hate Romans, called Antipasto? You play your word games, and continue to murder and steal. In the end you and your kind will be punished.
unless you have evidence that a fellow newsvine member has killed somebody that is a coh violation.
Very few of us are indigenous, what do you suggest, should we all move back to Africa?
I don't see the words steal or thieves in your quote 17:8
I have to agree with Procrustes you've over stepped the mark, about the only thing you're not blaming on the Jews is the disappearance of the dinosaurs.
Kpr, your post proves that in the battle of wits, you are unarmed. So stuff your coh violation.
Mal--from Webster's New World Dictionary
antiSemitic:
You are the one misusing the word. In its normal idiomatic usage the word is only in reference to Jews. No one who is prejudiced against Arabs, for example, is called an antisemite, which you certainly are.
The Palestinians are the ones being punished, though at the hands of their fellow Muslims who use them as pawns. Having a modern, successful Western-style democracy in the midst of primitive authoritarian regimes is more than they can stand. As long as all of Israel is considered occupied Palestine, there can be no peace agreement, nor should there be.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Origin - It is very hard to edgycate a true ignoramus !
The term Semite means a member of any of various ancient and modern Semitic-speaking peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including; Akkadians (Assyrians and Babylonians), Eblaites, Ugarites, Canaanites, Phoenicians (including Carthaginians), Hebrews (Israelites, Judeans and Samaritans), Ahlamu, Arameans, Chaldeans, Amorites, Moabites, Edomites, Hyksos, Arabs, Nabateans, Maganites, Shebans, Sutu, Ubarites, Dilmunites, Maltese, Mandaeans, Sabians, Syriacs, Mhallami, Amalekites and Ethiopian Semites. It was proposed at first to refer to the languages related to Hebrew by Ludwig Schlözer, in Eichhorn's"Repertorium", vol. VIII (Leipzig, 1781), p. 161. Through Eichhorn the name then came into general usage (cf. his "Einleitung in das Alte Testament" (Leipzig, 1787), I, p. 45). In his "Geschichte der neuen Sprachenkunde", pt. I (Göttingen, 1807) it had already become a fixed technical term.[5]
The term antiSemitic is commonly accepted as described in #23 there is no getting away from that, Procrustes used the word correctly.
Here since you like Wiki so much
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
Your replies are moot. Killing and stealing will get you a one way ticket to hell.
I'd love to know what dictionary your using, what ever it is I suggest you find a new one.
Do you mean "you" in general terms or are you being specific?
If so
Name me one person I've killed
Name me one thing I've stolen
It's obvious that you support the Israeli way of doing business. Even if you are not committing criminal acts yourself, you are contributing to the problem. Remember, you can't lie to God! I am very grateful that I have different moral values than you, or your kind.