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Iraq's Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, second right, walks with the EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton upon her arrival at Baghdad International Airport on Wednesday for multi-party nuclear talks.
Updated 5:30 p.m. ET: BAGHDAD -- Iran and world powers exchanged unusually detailed proposals at talks in Baghdad on Wednesday in hopes of defusing a long, volatile standoff over suspicions Tehran's atomic energy program may be a disguised quest for nuclear weapons.
The stakes could hardly be higher: global oil markets are jittery over extended Western sanctions imposed on Iran's vital crude exports and the specter of a Middle East war arising from possible Israeli strikes against its defiant arch-enemy.
But no breakthrough appeared to be in the offing in Baghdad, where the six powers were testing Iran's willingness to curb its uranium enrichment work. Differences remained, notably, over when Iran would be rewarded with relief from economic sanctions.
A Western official said the discussions would resume on Thursday. He was speaking after Iranian chief negotiator Saeed Jalili and European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton held a bilateral meeting that went on late into the evening.
After a 15-month diplomatic freeze and exploratory talks in Istanbul last month, envoys for Iran and the United States, Russia, China, France, Britain and Germany convened with both sides publicly upbeat about the scope for an outline deal.
"The EU three-plus-three side put forward a detailed proposal, which includes confidence-building measures that can pave the way for Iran to demonstrate that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes and for it to comply with its UNSC obligations,” U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said, NBC News reported. “And then this approach would also include step-by-step reciprocal steps aims at near-term action on our part if Iran takes it own steps.”
Former Secretary of Defense William Cohen talks about the significance of Ryan Crocker's departure as U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan. Cohen also comments on the ongoing nuclear talks with Iran.
The end goal for Washington is "full compliance by Iran with its international obligations and full ability of the IAEA to inspect and verify any obligations that it has undertaken," Nuland said.
Iranian media close to the Tehran government said Jalili presented a five-point package covering a "comprehensive" range of nuclear and non-nuclear issues.
The official news agency IRNA sounded a note of discord by quoting Iranian officials as referring to the big-power proposal as "nitpicking" while student news agency ISNA said: "Apparently from the Iranian point of view this package is not balanced."
Reuters
However, those leaks did not appear to be Tehran's final response as the talks ran on into the evening.
The powers' overall goal is an Iranian agreement to curb uranium enrichment in a transparent, verifiable way to ensure it is for peaceful purposes only. Iran's priority is to secure an end to sanctions isolating the country and damaging its economy.
The pivotal proposal by the six, led by Ashton, was for Iran to halt its enrichment of uranium to the higher fissile concentration of 20 percent, her spokesman Michael Mann said as talks got under way.
That is the Iranian nuclear advance most worrying to the West since it largely overcomes technical obstacles to reaching 90-percent, or bomb-grade, enrichment. Iran says it is enhancing the fissile purity to such a degree only for medical research.
"We have a new offer on the table which addresses our main concerns about the Iranian nuclear program. The 20-percent enrichment question," Mann told reporters. "We hope the Iranians respond positively and we can make progress today."
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In a separate interview with Iran's state-run English-language Press TV, Mann said no final deal was expected in Baghdad because progress was likely to be only gradual.
He said toughened sanctions, especially an EU ban on Iranian oil exports due to take full effect on July 1, had helped to draw Iran finally into serious negotiations.
Iran has hinted at flexibility on higher-grade enrichment although analysts caution that it would be unlikely to compromise much while sanctions remain in place.
In previous meetings the two sides could not even agree an agenda, with each largely repeating known positions and Tehran refusing any dialogue on changes to its nuclear path.
Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi, speaking to reporters in Tehran, said: "The ideas fielded to us speak of the fact that the other side would like to make Baghdad a success. We hope that in a day or two we can bring good news."
Salehi also warned that Iran would not bow to pressure: "Their policies of pressure and intimidation are futile. They have to adopt policies to show goodwill to solve this issue."
NBC News’ Catherine Chomiak contributed to this report from Reuters.
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This may be a significant event of Biblical proportion!
The IAEC is going to issue another scathing indictment of Iran´s lies and deception this Friaday.Sfther that the attack to destrou all their nuke sites and send the Islamic Revolution and its perverted ayatollahs packing will be just a matter of times.Mos of the world will cheer and support an attack.Bye bye terrorist ayatoolahs and your pyscho revolution!!
George - get a life.
By the way, bart martin, what did you smoke? Wow, dude, try to get a grip.
martin bart
The IAEC should investigate the israel nuclear facilites than just single out Iran to please US and israel. Israel's possession of nuclear weapon is a known fact and is a danger to world peace. Iran just want to protect themself with nuclear deterrents.
Most of the world will brief a sign of relief is Iran has nuclear weapon to provide a military balance and deterent against any attack on its nuclear installation by israel.
Iran is not singled out, they are asked to abide by the agreement they signed.
Isarel did not sign the agreement, so they are allowed to have nukes.
Iran did sign the agreement, so they are not allowed to have nukes.
If Iran wants nukes, they should just pull out of the agreement, it's that simple.
These world powers could not do much in Iraq despite two wars!
They could not get WMDs.
Look at the order and how they ran from Iraq!
These world powers delivered big lectures and danced as directed by Saudis, oil companies, Jewish lobbyists, future traders, lobbyists and greedy manipulators like rating agencies and Wall Street before, during and after Iraqi wars.
Their costly Saudi dances and oil price manipulations gave PIIGS and heavy debts in the US and other nations.
Thease cheap agents are back to their business on Iran.
Who will impose sanctions on Iranian oil and manipulate oil prices higher when economic situations are too bad?
Mind you: Iran can get nukes from Pakis and N. Korea.
We had enough of the Saudi, oil companies and Jewish lobbyists dances!
Another timely reminder to remove Zionists from any decision making processes, evict them from government.
By acting as cheap agents of Saudis, oil companies, Jewish lobbyists and some greedy ones and jumping into Iraqi wars, they have reduced themselves to cheap losers and jokers.
Where is Sarkozy among them?
Do they have brains to impose sanctions on Iranian oil and manipulate oil prices higher and repeat Iraqi dramas?
Why the hell are we even wasting our time? Iran has a history (similar to N. Korea) of just lying to stop sanctions.
Just keep up the sanctions, cut all financial aid to the M. East, and let them blow each other up without any interference or American casualties.
Ruken - Cite one illustration where Iran has been caught lying about its nuclear enrichment. Bet you cannot. Iran is now and has been under IAEA inspections. There is no room to lie about something easily verifiable. Iran should be allowed to enrich to 20%, for it's medical isotopes or the world should provide Iran with the isotopes. As long as Iran meets it's obligations, which they have been doing, all sanctions should be removed.
I have an idea. Lets force Israel to undergo IAEA inspections on their nuclear sites. If they don't acquiesce, lets place sanctions on them.
Israel never signed any no-nukes agreement, so there is no grounds for harrasing them.
As for Iran, if they don't want any inspections, all they need to do is pull out of agreement, then they can build all the nukes they want.
High oil prices and austerity measures have sent Sarkozy to dancing bars.
If the oil prices continue to be manipulated higher and higher, then more world leaders will join Sarkozy in dancing bars!
WMD business in Iran is a hoax just like Iraq. Don't some learn lessons from the past?
Remove sanctions on Iranian oil and bring down oil prices right away.
Or else, there will be economic melt down, depression and WWIII to divert attention.
One thing I agree: just keep away from Shiites vs Sunni battles and ME nations. It is not worth the troubles.
Iran is going to do whatever it wants, regardless what they say or agree to on paper. They will pursue it no matter what kind of hardship it poses for its' people. Of course they all deserve it anyway. Keep up the sanctions, stop everything from going out or in and watch them die.
"Watch them die?" Who? The little kids who are starving for lack of food, thanks to people like you?
Remove sanctions on Iranian oil and bring down oil prices.
Or else, there will be many little kids, girls, old and sickly, unemployed and other poorer sections, who will die right in the US and other nations.
Are some in this world and do they look around them?
Please don't blame Greeks or average Joe and talk about austerity measures!
Are there no austerity measures for wars, war excercises, these so-called "world powers" meets and so on?
@Matt-2631617 I'm agree with you till the word "anyway." and the other words ...??!! don't be so sure.
Salehi also warned that Iran would not bow to pressure: "Their policies of pressure and intimidation are futile. They have to adopt policies to show goodwill to solve this issue.".
This is another stall tactic from Iran,Go ahead and ease the sanctions and they will go back to where they left off and then it will take another 3 to 4 months to put them back in place,They said they will not bow to pressure and watch as before .Once sanctions are lifted they will not let the inspectors in.
Iran is not to be trusted as they have already shown on more than one occasion.
You can't trust most of the Muslim nations!
Can you trust Saudis who compound problems by setting up wars like Iraq, now Iran and manipulating oil prices higher and higher in between and Pakistan?
Jonathan - It is Israel that we cannot trust. They were complicit in 9/11, yet our congressmen act as though Israel did something wonderful for the US. Read a little about our Israeli and Zionist friends.
http://www.rense.com/general29/perl.htm
http://www.serendipity.li/iraqwar/ignoble_liars.htm
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_conc1.htm
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_conc2.htm
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RalphH: I understand your post. I don't want to confuse issues by bringing another factor!!!!
Also those who imagine they are too smart, get kicks badly from all sides. Just wait and watch.
Of course you realize that all the comments will eventually show the overwhelming understanding of what Iran is. Despite that, no nations will really do what si needed when push comes to shove. This is just an outlet to waste our time.
I agree somewhat that this is an outlet,But someone of either side of the government is reading all this,and the comments to get a feeling of how we all feel,whether they do something with it is another storie.
Its Time for the good ole USA to send that bunker bomb in and get a good test of how well it works,And Israel will be flying with us for cover and clean up.
Iran are a bunch of liars and like North Korea ,they will get the bomb and by then it will be to late for many of us.
In Iraq, after two wars only pushing the garbages left are left out!
Wouldn't trust those persian pu**ies as far as you could throw a mosque.
If Iran would stop enriching to 20% purity, and verify this with IAEA monitors in place 24/7, and grant access to suspect military installations, they should be rewarded with lessening of sanctions. The next step would be for Tehran to end all support for terrorist organizations. This would only happen with a strong peace deal between Palestine and Israel, that grants statehood to the Palestinian people.
I believe the biggest obstacle to peace is the Palestinian claim to Jerusalem.
Why not just move all the Palestinians to Iran. The country is big enough to absorb them. Then the problem is over. Israel gets what was promised to Moses and Iran gets to know that the Palestinians are now safe from the Zionists. Win/Win.
And why not just move all Israelis to the United States. U.S. is big enough to absorb them. Then the problem is over. Jews will be safe from Palestinian terrorism, Palestinians will be safe from Zionist terrorism. Win/Win. And don't give me that "Moses had a promise from God" crap. Unless you can prove that God exists, your argument cannot be used in a normal discussion.
If I remember the Bible correctly, God promised the land of Israel to Abraham's legitimate descendants, not the descendants of a bastard.
Israel is there to stay. If Muslims are offended with the fact, they can stay offended, that's their problem.
Anonymous User Biblical arguments have no place in any reasonable discussion. Unless you can specifically prove that God of the Bible or any deity actually exists you cannot use the "God" card. Zionists blame Palestinians for being religious fanatics. Yet it is Zionists themselves that use religious texts to justify their occupation of Palestine. Palestinian claim to the land is not based on Islam. Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say that Palestine belongs to Muslims. Palestinian claim is based on the simple fact that Palestinians lived there for centuries and constituted an absolute majority of the population. Then Zionist Jewish immigrants from Europe and other places show up and begin colonizing and occupying Palestinian land. Palestinian territories are illegally occupied and absolute majority of international community admits that they are illegally occupied. United Nations condemned Israel on numerous occasions for this illegal occupation. That is reality, it is documented, it actually happened. As opposed to Biblical bronze age myths. When it comes to legitimate arguments about which side is right in this conflict, a Wendy's menu is more legit than the Bible. If you want to use the Bible as a justification of war or occupation then you are no better than the Taliban and should be shipped out of this country. Evangelicals are no better than the Taliban. You want to base everything on your bronze age book and want the country to be run based on your bronze age book, and want our education to be based on your bronze age book, and want our foreign policy to be based on your bronze age book. When Christians had political power in the past they killed and tortured scientists and philosophers, exterminated members of other faiths or sects of Christianity. Now they are trying to get the power back, destroy modern education and science, destroy religious freedom, and hinder peace process in the Middle East. You are no better than Hamas. They only reason you don't burn people at stake anymore is because Western society woke up and took away your matches.
Musafir
This is just a suggestion, that is unless you have ripped it out, you sit on the toilet. You do not stand it and squat.
Hey, what do you want from us? What did we do to deserve this punishment..
jews in US already freaking us through financial markets... We do not want no more crooks.
I suggest relocating isreal to northern siberia where ithere is little population to be affected.. because you know isrealis will begin selling ice to local siberians over there an matter of months.....
Thank you for reminding us why jew need their own country.
As for moving us all to Siberia, Stallin has already tried that, and yet we are still here while USSR is not.
Neville Chamberlin would be proud! Keep sucking up to Iran, like NK, they will achieve their nuclear goal, a bomb!
M, what's the alternative to what we are doing? Start bombing and then invade Iran?
Even with a nuclear weapon, Iran does not and can not pose any threat to the US. It does however, create a situation where Israel can no longer bully Iran around as it likes. This really is no concern of ours. Israel has a history of being unable to live peacefully with its neighbors and is therefore in a state of constant war. This is by its own choice. As a separate nation, they have a right to do as they please. And as a separate nation, we too have a right to do as we please.
completely agrreable
Iran is no more oppressive of their people than Israel or the U.S. & the Iranian gov't. sees all these sanctions as pandering to a fat, paranoid, nosey neighbor peekin' out his mom's basement window (i.e. Israel). The CIA director said, "well uhh, we had legitimate cause to believe Saddam Hussein had WMDs..." Well, no $hit $herlock - a member of ronald reagan's staff sold him nerve & mustard gas in the 80s. I believe the guy's name was Rumsfeld (don't take my word for it, read a history book). Anyway, this is nothing more than mental masturbation - Iran sits on oil, New York & Miami both have an abundance of jewish votes, America is in an economic slump & even though Israel & Pakistan both have nukes & a trigger happy yo-yo as a leader - they got no juice. Hence, war is imminent. Even a blind man knows when its rainin.
Byron Raum
Please say you live in NY.
Drop an EMP on all their critical nuclear facilities and case closed. The run away reaction and lack of containment will melt their centrifuges and make the facilities useless.
Don't you think that if it were that easy it would have been done? Israel has taken out facilities in other countries so they are obviously prepared to do so but they aren't because the facilities in Iran are hardened or built into a mountain side.
Knock out their surface to air defense structure then carpet bomb every thing that looks military or of economic value. Then the bunker facilities should be pounded until there is a big hole deeper than the bunker. If that does not shut them down then we make an even deeper hole filled with impact crystal and nuclear glass. This is not a threat the religion of a dead, dead, dead pedophile prophet.
All this talk of a possible peaceful resolution sounds great and I hope it achieves success. But the bottom line is, Israel has a big red X on their calendar on a specific date in the future, and when that day comes, if Iran hasn't stopped enriching above 20%, sh*t will hit the fan.
When it does, I hope it will be isreal facing the fan...
Keep hoping. But from the experience, from 1948 on, it's Muslims who get full face of cr@p every time they try to throw it at the fan.
There are many new countries in the mideast. Iran.Jordan.Syria,Lebanon Irak, and many more.Israel joined them in 1948 when they returned to their homeland.The temples,wailing walls go way back before the Muslims conquered the area by the sword.The Palestinians were offered their own country in 48 to reflect their historical presence in the Ottoman Empire and during the British mandate etc.There never was a Palestine,but they were offered one and rejected it.Iran which is not Arab and doesn`t even care about the Palestinians is a terrorist state with attacks on 6 continents since the ayatollahs took over.It won`t be just Israel that attacks Iran .It will be with the help of some Arab Muslim countries,Europe Nato ,the U.S. and more. With the ayatollahs gone and their perverted Islamic revolution ovethrown. some peace may be returned to the region.Won`t be long now.And again with the ayatollahs gone it will be much better.Would be nice if the Iranians hung their ayatollah leaders .but with a police state in power for 32 years,it`s very unlikely.. as most dissidents are dead or in exile.So a military intevention is necessary and soon..And again most of the world including Muslim and Arab countries will breathe a sigh of relief even if they stay on the sidelines!!
@bart martin you need time.
Seems to me that someone's got to be the "bigger person" here and make a concession, and I don't think Iran will be the ones to do it. There's got to be some way the US/EU can offer a little more carrot and a little less stick in the short-term with unequivocal promises of reversing that tactic if equivalent Iranian concessions are not forthcoming. Pick one of the more reasonable concessions the Iranian government wants and give it to them -- put the ball in their court -- and then give them a reasonable amount of time to reciprocate on a comparable concession the US/EU side wants. If they do, then great, we're making progress. If they don't, then that's it -- Iran will have proven that diplomacy is a waste of time. I don't advocate going to war or doing anything illegal, but everything else, by all means.
What I can't figure out is why Russia and China insist on making themselves such obstacles on this issue. One would think that Russia, with all the problems its had in dealing with Muslims, would want the same safeguards we do regarding Iran. As for China, it seems to me they can trade just fine with Iran whether Iran's got nukes or not, not to mention the fact that a secular state like China should likewise find nukes in the hands of a touchy Islamist regime a distasteful proposition.
On Russia and China, I think they like to see the US/western Europe twist in the wind a bit before they actually help, although they are helping more now than before.
Sure, Tony, making concessions to dictatorships and being the "bigger man" always works well. Maybe our great Apologizer-in-Chief in the White House can wave his magic wand and make this problem go away, like he promised us in 2008. And I quote: "the first thing I'll do is sit down with our enemies and find common ground". Yep, we are still waiting for that meeting; I guess what he meant was the first thing in his second term. All these issues were supposed to be taken care of by now. Oh, yeah, I forgot. "Maybe Israel needs to go back to 1967 borders". How did that one go over in Jerusalem?
Interesting point, Mark. They're probably just trying to exert whatever influence they can, even if it's a negative one, I guess I just don't understand the mindset.
Wow, Mike, way to politicize there. I happen to agree with Teddy Roosevelt, myself -- speak softly and carry a big stick -- but that doesn't mean being intractable or taking the first swing. Dr. Seuss' "The Zax" is not a guide for diplomacy. I'm glad the armchair quarterbacks of this nation aren't in charge or we'd already be neck deep in WW3, if we were even still alive...
PS: I wasn't a big fan of George W. but he was still my president and I afforded him the respect due that office. Maybe you can man up and do the same.
I think this is great news...
All 5+1 needs to do is to keep isreal in leash so that it will not attack iran(And get us into a mess).
It needs to be a short leash....
Are you paranoid? Israel is neither a party nor a subject of the talks. The subject is Iran's compliance, and it must be achieved, by agreement, or sanction, or force.
Who let you out?
This is North Korea all over again, Iran has learned from the best and will add a few tricks of their own.
These talks are a total waste of time. Already the Iranians are balking at some of the issues. This is just another stall tactic. US needs to threaten Iran with eminent military action by a date in the VERY near future if they express even the slightest hesitation on complete and unrestricted access and inspection of thier nuclear facilities.
We have played this game of 'cat & mouse' for over a decade and Iran simply plows ahead with thier nuclear plans. ENOUGH of this. Big stick with no comprimises.
Yeah, lets just nuke them. That'll fix everything.
The United States and the Japanese were sitting at the table talking the day Japan attacked the United States first at Pearl Harbour. Some times diplomacy just doesn't work. A lesson should have been learned and remembered. Hell there were allot of Japanese who entered into service after their war against us began. Even after we dropped two A Bombs on them they would have continued had they the resources. I am not promoting war. But this Middle East Iran nuclear case has to end now before anyone can be attacked or live under threat of their nuclear capability. Iran must not be given anymore time or chance to stall or compromise. This is the deal. Take it or pay the price. I hope our position is we have a line drawn in the sand. We have negotiated in good faith and you've lied to us and stalled long enough now. July your sanctions will be in place and we advise you to stop advancing your nuclear program beyond making energy. You Iran have 90 days to comply and allow full open inspections and should the inspections reveal you are operating to satisfaction and do agree to continue monitoring of your nuclear program we will consider some easement of some of the sanctions. If you Iran continue to attempt to stall us and we cannot verify what we want you are creating a situation of continued insability in the world which is unacceptable and will answer for this as we the people will not tolerate what you are doing and will stop you with every option available to us. Sanctions and verification are our line in the sand. Cross us any longer or any more you will wish you only had sanctions on you. You have 90 days to fully comply and we will take our next step. That's about as diplomatic as I would be.
i do not agree with iran have nuclear capability...but i don't agree with the world have any.
who are we to stop any nation from fight? that is bull@!$%#
all hands on guard!!!
if you fall, u fall..
best man wins...
no nukes allowed...
Well, there lies the problem.
Isreal is a small country. Even if it has high tech weapons, it cannot win any hand to hand combat- Smart isrealis know that past wars with egypt/syria were won with US help and weaponry and relatively solid military structure with good men. Right now, conscripts are more like"make love, not war types", plus there are many gays too.
So, its difficult for isreal to win a war or a battle against people who are not scared from death..
Plus, the weaponry is also improving in other countries too.. They are not holding M-1 s anymore.
See what happened in afghanistan; Mullahs with stingers wore out russians, w/out stingers, mullahs were on their knees ready to give up.
So, isreal needs nukes as deterrant..No questions about it. But isreal lately trying to bully others with nukes... subs with nuke capabilities in mediterenean etc etc.. Other nations are making note of it, and my guess is that they will make sure they have the appropriate response, which is yto have nukes...
However, isreal does not even want to have a threat of somebody having nukes... Thats not gonna work out. When alll mideast have nukes, isreal will stop barking and will try to get along with others.
Its called leverage... Saudis, Syria, turkey, iraq UAE, egypt will all have nukes...
I respectfully disagree about it all working out. I also think Israel has only taken a stand your ground position past and present. I know Israel took out a couple nuclear sites and for good reason too. Iranian officals have public stated they want to kill all Israelis. Iran does not want Israel to exist. Only becuse the protential is to great that a nuclear exchange can happen do to Irans position there is nothing left to chance. The game has went way past overtime and it must be called what it is. They submit and verify to the worlds satisfaction or pay the price. All sides will pay the price but believe me Iran will lose this one and there system of government will never be the same. The present system of government in Iran will cease to exsist. Like it or not we all live in a thermo nuclear age. Nuclear weapons have the capability to destroy nations. We are not talking cruise missle, drones, Ak-47's or bunker busting bombs. Iran must never process thermo nuclear weapons. Not this present government anyway. I feel sorry for the average Iranian citizen. They probably are very much like us in so many ways. We each could learn great things from one another. It's their lying wanting to kill something government that is the root to all this. The world needs to put them in there place before there is another war and it will be a very large one this time. No nukes used. Sanctions and verifacation. Or face us in your desert.
In 1948 and 1963 Israel wiped the floor with an alliance of Arab states with no nukes and no help from USA.
That's when they showed that they are stronger, braver and smarter than Arab states, and they can show it again if needed.
I think its isreal needs to be put in place by the world and I believe it will happen.
My friend, choices have results.. And isreal will pay dearly for the poor choice of attacking iran...
isreal cannot win a conventional war.. period.. if isreal gives any hint of using nukes (Which they attempt to use media to spread the word lately), it will be really the end of isreal and all jews in the world...
So, you go ahead and think how brave you are and all that...
What isreal needs to do is shut up and behave like human beings..
Israel DID win a conventional war, 5 times.
And you will have to accept that this is how human being behave, when you attack human being, they attack you back.
I find hynes (The animals in africa, just in case you do not know them) more cudley, more cute and with more compassion than an isreali...
Fran NJ excuse me but, Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan or ... I don't know why american government is supporting such this Israel ?? what's the reason?
dont you remember Halabche, Shalamcheh, ...
Innocence Iranians , WOMEN AND CHIELDS WERE KILLED BY CHEMICAL BOMBS THAT WAS MADE IN USA &.. AND SADDAM WAS SUPPORTED JUST BEFORE FOR WAR TO CAHNGE THE REVOLUTION RESULT.
There are millions of Iranians that are ready to defend (in front of what they have not done yet, and they are suspected to do like other wars and the way they started) and Iran is not so small as what they think and what their statistics and information say . They should be here to see.
There will not be any World Order new or old!! All the nations the same and all of them rule the world, no ....
They will be wondered soon, on how the world changes. Jus wait!
Iran doesn't have any issue with USA but USA is supporting Zionist terrorists from past and added Syrian terrorist support too.
What they have done in Iran?? Just murdering Nuclear Scientist ...how many? three? four?,... ??
Iranians are getting more willing to study Nuclear Science at university. How many they will murder?
MOSAAD and CIA must answer.
Iranian are standing in their land. Let's see who will attack and fall too.
I agree jungezkhan. they will be lighten up but when there is no time to go back.
Let's see what happens , like 8 years of war that we were force to do. Again we will stand until the last drop of our blood in way of freedom.
No matter who stays in his fake scare and worry of terrorism and danger of Iran.
Jus see how USA supports Syrian rebels and terrorist in opposite of Assad. It's obvious who is dictator (in skin of rabbit and abusing humanity rules).
Once Iran complies with all demands made of it sanction easement can be discussed.
If you want more war then elect the NeoCons this fall - if you want rational thinking and a future for all of our children re-elect Mr. Obama!
All the pandemonium over Iran is to keep the price of crude up. Without this "news" the markets would decline.
Iran is not a threat to other nations and has shown willingness by participating in talks while allowing IAEA inspectors into its facilities many times. On the other hand the Israel Zionist regime has never let any inspectors to check its own arsenal of nuclear warheads and unlike Iran it is not a signatory of the non-proliferation treaty. Yet it receives billions of dollars in aid from taxpayers without any conditions.The imperial American regime has demonstrated that it is the real danger to the world by threatening weaker nations through its history with the aim to make wealthier the Zionist bankers. Israel and the USA are the most proliferates of nuclear weapons and that is a reason to consider to whom apply the sanctions. However many people in the USA are brainwashed by the corporate media with paranoia and stupidity.
Iran is so compliant that is why this has dragged on for a decade.
Right because Iran is refusing to be subjugated after demonstrating the contrary. Iran like other nations must obey the IAEA, not Israel or the USA.
Yes, it is a threat to other nations -- it is a very active one, too. The Iranian government sponsors terrorism and there are decades of records to prove it. They cannot even maintain order in their own country without beating and incarcerating their own citizens simply for having a difference of opinion. If Iran's leaders could, they would export their tyrannical government everywhere (and in places like Syria, they have done so).
A nation that gives a defeated country back to its people (as America is doing with Afghanistan and Iraq, and has done throughout its history with countries like Germany and Japan) is not imperialist. Only fools who have no concept of history or American military power believe that America is "imperialist." America only threatens weaker nations when those nations willingly engage in barbarous/criminal acts or if they first threaten America themselves, and it has nothing to do with "Zionist bankers" -- that is ridiculous conspiracy with no basis in reality. America has better things to do.
The only thing most people in the USA are paranoid about is allowing an untrustworthy and ruthless tyranny like the Iranian government to possess a nuclear weapon. To believe that such a government would behave responsibly with such power when they do not behave responsibly NOW is truly stupidity. America has possessed nuclear arms for nearly 70 years and has responsibly NOT used them against any other nations, EVER, since World War II. In all that time, and for all it's military power, America has also never threatened the existence of any other countries -- it's people do not chant "Death to XXXXX" in the streets like it's a national sport. America shows responsibility. Iran -- despite having no capability to do so -- regularly calls for genocide in the name of jihad and threatens to wipe other nations from existence. Is that responsible? No, that is paranoia and stupidity.
Now, exactly who is it that is brainwashed? May peace be upon you, my friend.
You know what. I am not the brightess light here. BUT, I remember the Alltoyah Komeany, the Iran Contra thing (Ollie North) the Nixon days. Ever since the fall of the Persun Empire especially Iran and Iraq were and still are the cause to almost all of the Middle East problems in the world today as I see it. The governments have operated with the rational of going back. Going backwards and taking everyone else back with them. It's a different world we all live in. What goal does anyone really have. I wish all people would address it in a way that do you want to live in peace and let us live in peace. Then so be it. Peace cannot be achieve when a nations leaders opening confess that they do not accept anothers existence and that there goal is to terminate it's existence. This is not acceptable. Then the next issue. Iran being able to process Thermo Nuclear capability. I don't think so. All my life I live with the knowledge of Iran as an enemy. So if they walk like a duck, quack like a duck. they better learn how to duck. The world must stop the game of fake negotiation and call the game for what it is. Should Iran make the right decision and submit great we all win. If not. They have enough dessert for all of us and the world will prevail over Iran. There government will be terminated and peace process can begin.
Fran - You are right about not being the brightest bulb. Iran has not started a war with another country in over 180 years. They do not support terrorists. They support freedom fighters, such as Hezbollah, a group formed to keep the f-ing Israelis out of Lebanon. Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon for 18 years.
Well at least I'm not the only dim wit here. You opinion is heard. Only thing is. Is Iran a problem or is it not.
Hezbollah formed to keep Israel out Lebanon, really?
There is a much simpler way to do that, just don't attack Isarel, then they will stay out of Lebanon.
Too simple, isn't it?
i believe russia and china will help the US because they like the US are worried, not that iran will use a nuke but that the tech will find its way to hamas or some other iranian supported terror group, and we all know that hamas has no problems with killing anyone anywhere even civilians.
Iran will stop making nuclear weapons after they decide that they have enough of them.
Hey Paul - All 16 US intelligence agencies concluded that Iran does not haved a nuclear weapons program. How can they stop, what they have not started?
If one day, Iran decides to cut its cooperation with the IAEA, it
would make it easier to use such a site to make a bomb, but it's in the long
term," said Meir Javedanfar, an analyst and lecturer on Iranian issues
at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, Israel. "In the short
term, I don't think Israel has too much to worry about because the site is
still under inspection.
JERUSALEM - Despite saber-rattling from Jerusalem, Israeli officials now
agree with the U.S. assessment that Tehran has not yet decided on the actual
construction of a nuclear bomb, according to senior Israeli government and
defense figures.
Even so, there is great concern in Israel about leaving Iran “on the cusp”
of a bomb - explaining why Israel continues to hint at a military attack on
Iran’s nuclear installations before it moves enough of them underground to
protect them from Israel’s bombs. Iran reported in February that it possesses
up to 100 kilograms of uranium enriched to 20 percent, which would be enough
for four bombs if further processed. Uranium must be enriched to 90 percent to
be military grade. Note: They cannot further process the 20% uranium, because the inspectors would notfy the US.
Israeli intelligence officials, like other intelligence agencies worldwide,
estimate that once a decision to build a bomb is reached, it would take months
to upgrade the enrichment and months more to build a crude bomb - in all, a
year to 18 months.
Then, to fit a bomb to a Shahab-3 missile capable of striking Israel would
take Iran two years, Israeli defense officials say.
Israeli officials who favor a strike do not want Iran even to reach the
point where work on a bomb could begin.
We should not give In to Iran's Black Mail because they do what they want to .
War has come To your home Now it lies destroyed Nuclear war, the final war The end of all man's dreams No one wins In this game Both sides have lost Who has won When all are dead Except for the machines Looking at the future There's no much to see Your homeland lies under Radioactive debris Millions dead More on the way What is worth this cost For your peoples And country You'd destroy the worId is madness To believe That you can survive Take my word You'd rather not It's better just to die Looking at the future There's no much to see Your homeland lies under Radioctive debris
The Jewish State of Israel has no constitution, nor does it name its borders. Israel's hidden constitution is Judaism. Israel's undeclared borders range from the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. Israel's desired jurisdiction extends over the entire Earth.
It could not be more clear that the Jewish State follows a foreign policy which obeys Jewish Law as iterated in the Hebrew Bible, the Talmud, Maimonedes, the Cabalah, and the many commentaries and refinements of same. The Jews are genociding the native inhabitants of Palestine, just as their religion advises, and because their religion teaches them to do so. They treat non-Jews as if non-humans, just as their religion requires them to do. They make perpetual war on every nation on Earth, just as their genocidal Jewish God has instructed.
The Jews of Israel are simply being Jews. Jews are an existential threat to the human race.
Israel contains one third of the Jews of the World. It is not some aberration of the Jewish spirit, but the condensation and concentration of the perverse Jewish mentality, which malady also pervades the remaining two thirds of Jewry, who almost unanimously support the Jewish State, and who certainly do unanimously support the Jewish People and its consistent and constant crimes against the human race. Israel is Jewry and the danger of Israel is the danger of the Jewish People to all others, as the Jews have demonstrated each and every day of their existence.
You are too late, your side has already lost WWII.
Jungezkhan you can get treatment for whatever ailes you. I don't know how good it will work on you.