Suspects; God bless the USA. lol.

YEE-HAWWW GO USA

4 BILLION SUSPECTED TERRORISTS TO GO THEN WERE DONE!

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!!!

only 4 billion? and what? Its legal already, some just dont know it.

For being ungrateful and backstabbing, Paki militant areas deserve carpet bombings.

As enemies are too many, drone attacks will not be effective and enough.

They are all militants of a sort. Kill them all.

@jeff0052, you stated FACTS as they are,exactly what happened in Serbia... In the beginning Serbs had welcomed the Muslims into their country for a new way of life, after settling into their adopped country, things started changing for the Serbien people, As Muslim population expanded the Serbians were becoming more and more subjected to Muslim culture. By the time they realized what was taking place it was to late. Slovadan Milosevic had "Asked the Muslim to return to their land of origin they refused, after several peacefull attempts, all hell broke loose, "WAR !".

I wonder if when they kneel and pray they beg for larger numbers of innocent lives to kill..

If they can't make it over to kill us they'll kill their own.

I think Obama should get another Nobel peace prize, a piece of this terrorist, a piece of that Islamic militant, a piece of this underwear bomber and a piece of Bin Laden's ass. Looking forward to the day he gets a piece of Al Zwahiri.

Emanual,

if you think you have it bad being BIA, try a visit to the "homeland". Not one BAI that went to Africa with me EVER wanted to live in Africa. Now to be fair, I did not make it to South Africa, but if the North and Central are any gage of the south, then I would say that the continent as a whole is pretty damn corrupt.

After Pakistan sentenced the good doctor that gave us info to kill OBL with 33 years I think it is past time for us to immediately stop all aid to that country for 66 years in retaliation. We have sent billions of aid, helped that country for years and what do we get....a slap in the face directly from Pakistan. Leave these barbarians to kill themselves and live in the dark ages forever under Sharia Law. Enough Already................ GOD SAVE AMERICA!!!!

@gatorboy,

Did it ever occur to you he was convicted(to pacify the masses), brought in the front door of the prison, out the back door and he and his family are now living comfortably in some quiet neighborhood in suburbia USA. Maybe there will be a prison riot in the near future where he will be "murdered" and then no one will be looking for him.

The USA needs a good War Dance, in fact every event should have a dance. We tried that "Give Peace a Dance", but most the White folks had two left feet (picturing Steve Martin).

Did Disco really turn lab rats gay? Disco - now that crap was a drone.

Right on Jeff!!

Keep your powder dry and plentiful.

Piece if lead would work in a pinch

Truly sad to see anyone on here supporting genocide against Muslims. If you actually knew any you would see that most Muslims are just like anybody else wanted a live peaceful happy lives. It's incredibly stupid to generalize the actions of a few extremists to all members of a religion.

@jeff

are we having fun trolling?

I am amazed, no I'm not. If this would have happened under the Bush administration there would have been a national outcry from the Democrats and the liberal media.

Now let's see... why do these people hate us so much? I just can't figure it out... (shrugs) Must be because we're free and prosperous... yeah, let's go with that.

Keep bombing. Pakistan won't do anything. Its questionable if it is even a sovereign nation.

Nope, they hate us because here a man must be proved guilty before he is condemned but over there we kill people, with the Innocent around them, just because they are suspect. We are just great wining the appreciation of the rest of the world.

Gotta love hypocrits like Stewgotts. Condemning people for bigotry, then going on a bigoted rant in the very same post! rofl

If this would have happened 5 years ago, Bush would have been called a murderer.

Imagine if this happened in reverse. If Pakistan, or any country, accidentally killed 10 people in a church. Imagine the anger, the hatred the desire for revenge that it would produce. How would you react if your family was in that building?

People use the word "they" a lot when describing citizens of a particular country. What many fail to realize is that people in other countries, particularly those in the 3rd world and/or with oppressive governments do not associate themselves as closely with their government as we do ours. We say "they" in reference to the leaders and the military, and forget that often times, the people there are their victims as well.

Let me be clear, I in no way support violence or terrorism as a response and never condone any act of violent retaliation. However, we need to acknowledge, at the very least, that things such as this do not endear us to the people there. If I were a terrorist group, I would be approaching those families as we speak to join. Again-not justified in any way and must be stopped-but we need to understand the roots of terrorism before we can fight it, and understanding that things like this play a role is important.

There are a couple million Muslims in our country - over a billion in the world - and the vast majority are peaceful.

If they are so peaceful, why don't we hear them denounce the violence their muslim brethren commit?! The silence sounds like an endorsment of violence if you ask me.

If they are so peaceful, why don't we hear them denounce the violence their muslim brethren commit?!

Their silence is deafening.

glcsr,

That just ain't gonna fly! Can't have muslims actually agreeing with the West now can we?

Wow....I was pretty shocked when i started reading the comments. I know there will always be people who just want to joke...even when deaths are involved, however, I think people really fail to see how insane this really is!

Imagine we had drones killing our people?!? First of all, if, let's say China had drones flying over Texas, and blew up a house that they claimed, or suspected housed people who (they thought) were not like them....so they bombed it...and in the event, neighbors were killed, children playing in the back yard, friends visiting for dinner....and what if this was a mistake, but we need to say they were suspects, because we f*cked up?!

I know many people here in the US, really eat up all the propaganda that the US gives, and because they want more support for war, AND because it is election year....you start to hear more of this, so they can push the warmongering presidents. This is ALL bullsh*t.

I wonder how many of you are aware of these drones here in the US...Its actually quite scary when you actually think about it. While this world may have some nuts...for the most part it is not as scary as you are lead to believe, however the militay industrial complex doesnt want you to know that....How would this sound?

Hey folks, there is no threat, however we want to go start a war with an oil country. Dont worry about your sons and daughters....our soldiers lives, because it is because of them that we stand to make billions of dollars! Their lives pay for our luxuries. Oh and yeah your freedom too....While we dont want to put our children on the front lines....will you please do it, because i already signed a contract for that oil, and if i dont deliver, i wont make any money...Please support this war?

It doesnt sell...so they spew this crap, and so many fall for it! We all need to wake up...this is wrong!

There are a few things I have a problem with:

1. It's obvious, yet fascinating to me that our Nobel Peace Prize winning President doesn't get taken before the media firing squad when our nation continues the wars he promised to stop, uses the US military in many more nations (6 African countries, not including the Libya conflict), the use of weaponized drones across the globe (and here in the US watching us). I agree with others, the media would be reporting now that, "...at least 10 civilians were killed today when the US bombed a mosque in Packistan." I think they would be asking questions of the press secretary and the President during his campaign stops.

2. Didn't the State Department declare that the "War on Terror" is over a few weeks ago? Wouldn't this constitute the use of the military against...... terrorists?

3. President Obama got Bin Laden! I hear that all the time (which is true and appreciated), but what about the administration providing all of the classified information to the media (including new reports of Hollywood producers whom will be releasing a movie soon) that exposed our special forces (and their families) to public disclosure, their methods and tactics, what happened on the mission, etc. If it was another President it would be "using the media for personal gains", "contemptuous, dangerously exposing our fine young troops to danger", "manipulating the military for votes", etc. Why doesn't the media ask the same questions here??

4. We are crossing international borders to attack people. Again, if this was another President it would be a "violation of international law", "misuse of his power", and "the US strong arming the world", "the President's CIA's doing", etc. Funny thing, no one's too worried about it, not even the verbal anti-war crowd (Code Pink, etc.).

So far as the actual missions are concerned, I gather that in the past it was dealt with better and missions weren't leaked the way they are now. It's like our government can't wait to tell us something that might make them look good at any moment- regardless of it's sensitive nature or value. Funny how that works.

How long till the Underground News reports of 100s killed by drone attacks in say Kansas, Florida or where ever in the US. The banks run the government and the government works for the banks well being. I wonder what the government will do about the $500 million the Morgan Stanley swindled the public out of. Chances are nothing as Wall Street right the regulations that in turn protect them. Just wait till these drones are looking through your windows and tracking you.

The official said the house was reportedly used by suspected foreign and Punjabi Taliban militants. Officials told Reuters

Key word SUSPECTED NOT CONFIRMED! I would rather they are sure of just WHO they are killing, Don't get me wrong, I am all for getting these terrorist. But I think that they really need to be sure about their targets.

And for Pakistan to jailthe doctor that helped the Americans get Osama Bin Laden for33 yrs. shows that they are not going after these terrorist and have no intentions of doing so.

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I have a question for Stewgotts. Do you think you are better off now than when obama started?

"

Yes

The rest of your rant is just ridiculous. I'm from the south and I disagree with your entire BS racist post.

Go back to your trailer and have a beer billybob

"3. President Obama got Bin Laden! I hear that all the time (which is true and appreciated), but what about the administration providing all of the classified information to the media"

Pssst if it was classified it wouldn't have been released. You simply think it was classified.

So, Obama is against water boarding to save lives but has no problem using drones to kill the enemy preventing acquiring intelligence that would and has saved American lives. I guess he has no problem killing a few innocent people as well. Cost of Obama's war is intense in Pakistan. I would expect the people of Pakistan to hate America much more in the future with this kind of foreign policy intact.

Not enough. Next time they should aim at a juicy one, with at least 100 Muslims inside.

Ed-1118000

If you are speaking of Clinton, Bush, And Obama. Well I believe you're wrong there. Clinton had a chance at Osama in Sudan but passed on it.(allowing him to leave and head to Pakistan) Bush would never have killed Osama because the bush and Bin ladin families are like in bed with each other (VERY CLOSE). Obama is not tied to them and was the only one that went after him with intent to kill him. End of story

JEFF12345: Look in the mirror and repeat after me:

"Gotta love hypocrits like ME JEFF12345. Condemning people for bigotry, then going on a bigoted rant in the very same post! rofl"

Rolling on the floor laughing? What a maroon! (says Bugs Bunny)

Jeff12345

Now let's see... why do these people hate us so much? I just can't figure it out... (shrugs) Must be because we're free and prosperous... yeah, let's go with that.

I hope you are kidding....you dont really believe people hate us because we are free and prosperous? Maybe its because we go bomb their homes and get away with it, maybe its because we occupy their land...(imagine China military walking around NYC with their guns drawn)...Im sure we would retaliate too!!!

And as for being free and prosperous...do you really think we are free? With all these new laws, like the NDAA, H.R. 347 (Tresspass Bill)...we arent free! Yes we are more free than them, but not free...I mean people cant even drink Raw milk! Havent you noticed, that because of these wars, laws are put in place that take away our civil liberties, ...basically they say" We have to sacrifice freedom for safety!"....think about it seriously! So while they say, "We are on high alert, terrorist attacks are coming....oh by the way, we need to pass a law that gives our governent more control of your lives...but dont worry we will portect you!" This is ALL propoganda!

Hey, what about the Militants crossing over from Pakistan into Afgahanistan? We have no right to pursue them? With all the foreign aid we provide Pakistan? They won't even clean up their own backyard! To hell with crossing borders! persue these zealots wherever they go and kill them. Cut off all aid to Pakistan and make them return the Billions we sent them! The people of pakistan need to hate their government for lying to them. Let pakistan secure their borders and we won't need to send drones in! The north of Pakistan is ruled by tribal leaders, not the government. There own president admits this. So if you are so worried about us killing innocents, then tell that to the families of the 9-11 victims, I'm sure they will want to here about it!

uchusky99 says: " any country, accidentally killed 10 people in a church. Imagine the anger, the hatred the desire for revenge that it would produce. How would you react if your family was in that building?"

Well, wouldn't '9/11' be a good example?

Don't feel too bad. Mosques are where they hide rockets and guns.

kill em all.....let allah sort em out!!!!! pak govt

should be eliminated.

jm

erc, 9/11 was on purpose. This was not.

Don't feel too bad. Mosques are where they hide rockets and guns.

This is such a ridiculous statement. There are also innocent people in mosques.

Imagine we had drones killing our people?!? First of all, if, let's say China had drones flying over Texas, and blew up a house that they claimed, or suspected housed people who (they thought) were not like them....so they bombed it...and in the event, neighbors were killed, children playing in the back yard, friends visiting for dinner....

The only problem with your analogy is the US is not harboring terrorists in Texas that consistently attack China....

Ah, I see my stalker has been watching South Park again...

Hey Jeff,

ANYONE would have been an improvement over Bush. So the answer is yes, we are better off with Obama. How hard could it be following a chimpanzee like Bush? A guy so stupid, he bankrupted 3 companies in his own back yard and than ran as "the regular American, the guy you could sit down and have a beer with".

And those are the people that voted for Bush. Morons like him. And then guess what? He bankrupted America in his 1st term, and the morons voted for him again anyway.

Then, with the blood on your hands, you vote in the black guy so you could have someone to blame, because after all, Bush was one of you. And if you blame Bush, then you are blaming yourselves, and rightly so. Because you are morons. And you are racists. So elect the black guy as a distraction. Get a white racist congress to publicly declare "our #1 objective is to get Obama beat." And so, they decided to stonewall him on everything. Like little boys in a school yard. "I Can't get my way, so screw the American people, I'll take my ball and go home".

And the problem with you morons is that you dont kow a distraction when you see one, because the only thing Obama should be removed from office for is his flip flopping on the marijuana issue and laughing at those who suggested legalization as a good idea for change.

Tom Tarbox

So if you are so worried about us killing innocents, then tell that to the families of the 9-11 victims, I'm sure they will want to here about it!

So should we just kill everyone, do we have the right to go in any country and kill people....better yet, if we do, dont they have the right to come here and kill us!?!? 9/11 did happen, and i am not against going to war over 9/11....but you do have to look at it with a clear mind, unbiased, and really think it though. 9/11 itself is flawed....i am not saying Bush did it....but their are obviously lies from our own government, and also coverups, not to mention, when asked who benefits from this....it does raise some eyebrows! And when the insurance company told Siverstien that he would get insurance money for the buldings, the 9/11 commision came in, threw out the insurance report, changed the results....and surprisingly he got 5 billion dollars! Anyway there are plenty of discrepencies, but that neither here nor there!

My point is, we already went to war over that, and even started a few more. We went into Iraq, based on WMD's...didnt find them, but still killed their ruler. (I am not saying he was a good guy)....but we were the terrorists in their country....ALso if you ask the victims of 9/11, many of them, will tell you this is bullsh*t, however our news doesnt report that they are unhappy about all this crap...they only report the ones who are pushing the war agenda! The more we bully, the more someone will want to take out the bully!

snarky68

The only problem with your analogy is the US is not harboring terrorists in Texas that consistently attack China....

No, we arent harboring terrorists in Texas that constitantly attack China, but no one is "constantly" attacking us. But my point is that the US is going around killing innocent people in other countries like its a football game. We have spies starting conflict as well....We are no where near as innocent as you think!

The info that lead to Osama's death was obtained using torture techniques during the Bush era. Obama gets all the credit when all he did was OK the hit.

Dust4

Truly sad to see anyone on here supporting genocide against Muslims. If you actually knew any you would see that most Muslims are just like anybody else wanted a live peaceful happy lives. It's incredibly stupid to generalize the actions of a few extremists to all members of a religion.

What an incredibly ignorant statement. How many “peaceful muslims” do you know in the middle east? They blow themselves up on a daily basis! They are not attempting to live peaceful happy lives. As far as your “peaceful muslims” here in the US, why aren’t they decrying the violence of their brothers in the middle east?

All this fighting over a piece of land no bigger than the state of NJ? Please! Don’t you think they have enough land? Imagine the middle east as the US with Iowa being Israel, surrounded by angry muslims, with all of them poised to attack, how safe would you feel? Why is Jerusalem the prize? Oh, that’s right, because GOD promised it to Abraham and Isaac, NOT Ishmael! The very basis of islam, is that God’s true covenant was with Ishmael rather than Isaac is based on a lie! If they don’t believe in God, why do they bother?

We are already witnessing the dual edged sword of Islamic fundamentalism, propaganda and terror. Islam has cleverly used 2 approaches in its war with the Judeo-Christian west…it has convinced people, including the US State Dept and the media that the problems of the middle east all revolve around the dispute between the Arabs and the Jews over land and it has effectively used terror and the threat of terror to mute any opposition.

@Mark-768209, did you even read half of the stuff you typed before you clicked "Post Comment"? Did Bush screw up? Absolutely he did and he did drive this country into a deep hole by the end of his 2nd term; however, don't try to sell me on Obama getting stonewalled. What was the first two years of Obama and a Democrat-controlled Congress except Obama getting away with everything he wanted? Obamacare, increased regulations on startup businesses and small businesses, zero limitations or expectations from Wall Street and the way he "handled" the Gulf spill by going out and playing golf and basketball and going to a barbecue? Yes, he'd really been stonewalled. He's worked harder than all Presidents before him. After all, by his own words, "...our Founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like..." So yes, it's entirely everyone else's fault and absolutely nothing to do with Obama, yes?

FedupwithFed

What an incredibly ignorant statement. How many “peaceful muslims” do you know in the middle east? They blow themselves up on a daily basis! They are not attempting to live peaceful happy lives

Wow....i have never heard such stupidity! You really are brainwashed, or just so ignorant. I dont know how you can call someone elses comment ignorant, when your whole comment was probably the most ignornant comment (aside from jeff0052). I dont know where you live, maybe somewhere in the outskirts of Alabamy or Arkansawr....but here in the diverse area of New Jersey, and also i spent a lot fo time in NYC....Muslims are no different than you or me...(well maybe you) Unlike you, they are peaceful people, however our (jewish) controlled media paints them differently...and you bought it! Remember the whole Lowes deal....it was against muslims. The guy who complained was from a christian who said the show didnt depict terrorist, but instead showed a normal family. WTF....This is the same nonsense you are saying....cmon wake up!

judas mike

kill em all.....let allah sort em out!!!!! pak govt

should be eliminated.

jm

Incuding Isreal too right! I mean might as well get ALL the terrorists!

Tyler is a golden god of truth, beauty and light. Thanks, Tyler.

One of the pillars of the Koran is that a portion of their monetary offerings (I believe that it's 10% but I may be wrong) must be given in support of Jihad. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all muslims support terrorism because of this belief system. However, when there is a statement like that as a foundational belief, it goes to show that there's no such thing as a peaceful Muslim, simply because the religion itself was built on the back of conquering and forced conversion. Their prophet was a warlord, and they're required to give money to support jihad. Even if a muslim does not support terrorism, because they don't believe it is jihad, they still must support that which is jihad. Not all muslims are terrorists, but all muslims have to support jihad.

I don't advocate genocide by any means, but terrorists do need to be put away, either in prison or in a coffin. However, innocents are innocents. We should be doing what we can to protect those who are innocent. In the USA, we're taught that the gov't is "[O]f the people, by the people, and for the people." (Laughable these days, I know, but there it is). In countries like Pakistan, the people have no voice. Don't assume that all the Muslims in Pakistan, or around the world even, support the terrorists. They don't. Do you think the civilians living their daily lives in poverty and danger like getting blown up or attacked? Of course not. They want an end to it as much as we in the USA want an end to this long standing war. It's already our longest and most expensive in our relatively short history. All Muslims must support Jihad, but the majority of Muslims don't believe that the terrorists are jihadis, or that their war is sanctioned in the Koran.

What's that saying?
"If you desire peace, then prepare for war."

Truer words were never spoken.

Mqira

that the US is going around killing innocent people in other countries

I read and reread the article and all found describing those killed was this:
"ten bodies were pulled from the debris "
"suspected foreign and Punjabi Taliban militants."
"Locals & militants, including foreigners"
"six wounded had been brought in. Among those wounded, one died and four others were in critical condition."
No description if any of those were "innocent" bystanders. Even hardened militiants pray every day.

GLCSR – You may not hear about Muslims condemning terrorism, but it’s out there. Just like Middle-Easterners don’t hear us condemning violence, a lot is controlled by the media. Also don’t forget most countries don’t have the same rights as our first amendment grants us. Speaking out may get them jailed, tortured or killed (which is a government thing, or a radical Muslim thing). Regardless, take a look: http://islam.about.com/cs/currentevents/a/9_11statements.htm.

Unfortunately it’s easy for people to remember only the images of Pakistanis cheering in the streets after 9/11, and that was awful, but that’s not everyone. Like I said – there are over 1 billion Muslims and over 2 billion Christians. That’s nearly half the population of the world. If even .001% of all Muslims were terrorists we’d be in a lot of trouble as a species.

If you step back for a moment and think about it, this all makes sense, but we get so wrapped up in things we put on horse blinders and start making incorrect assumptions about a religion that triples the population of the United States.

Tyler I find it interesting that you single me out when not only was my comment approved of by many people who read this, but was far less incendiary than several other comments you never touched. Perplexing, but I guess it must have struck a nerve with you for one reason or another.

Toasty McGrath_ banned

Thank you Tyler! Party at my house tonight in YOUR honor!

mqira

FedupwithFed

What an incredibly ignorant statement. How many “peaceful muslims” do you know in the middle east? They blow themselves up on a daily basis! They are not attempting to live peaceful happy lives

Wow....i have never heard such stupidity! You really are brainwashed, or just so ignorant. I dont know how you can call someone elses comment ignorant, when your whole comment was probably the most ignornant comment (aside from jeff0052). I dont know where you live, maybe somewhere in the outskirts of Alabamy or Arkansawr....but here in the diverse area of New Jersey, and also i spent a lot fo time in NYC....

mqira

Well it’s a good thing READING COMPREHENSION isn’t your strong suit. The ARTICLE is about drone strikes in Pakistan, not about muslims in NJ or NYC! I asked how many “peaceful muslims” he knew in the MIDDLE EAST! Learn to read and comprehend before you attack me. So nice of you to also attack the fine residents of Alabama and Arkansas in your rant! Seems I struck a nerve though...or your conscience is feeling guilty?

Hm, Emanuel-0684, that is some pretty stupid stuff you are writing and extremely provocative. Now with that attitude, yes, you will be in trouble because that is what you expect and provoke.

Did not learn a thing yet, eh? Read some Bill Cosby stuff and make that and him help you light up a bit. That Sharpton crap attitude does not do anybody good.

Fedupwithfed - Being that there are somewhere around a billion (or at least several hundred million) Muslims in the middle east, don't you find it difficult to believe that none of them are peaceful? Have you ever visited the middle east?

Seriously, that guy was getting on my nerves. You tell yourself you won't get annoyed when someone copies your screen name, but it always manages to creep in on you.

i lol'd

did you just watch the sibel and alex jones video? they just talked about the same thing! they must've had ID's on them that stated they were militants! LOL!

We know that the Pakistani government are the problem, so the sooner we fix up the northern supply route the better. We can tell the Pakis that they can keep Karachi as we no longer need their sea port for anything. We need Afghan forces manning their own border with Pakistan and shooting on sight anyone not using the authorised crossing points. The Pakis have shown their true colors often enough.

...and after billions they want $5000 per truck each way.

Gee STexan, I guess they forgot to tell you in advance. Of course someone of your importance should have been informed immediately so it must have been an oversight by Marine Gen. John R Allen.

If Obama keeps this up he is going to be considered a war criminal in many countries just like GW.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/ngo-convicts-bush-us-officials-over-iraq-war-crimes

Bad guys take shelter behind good guys, children, women and mosques! Can you devise some tests to differentiate between bad and good guys.

In Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan and other Muslim nations, Shiites, Sunnis and tribes blow each other, mosques and in some cases even blow up the hospitals where the injured are treated.

Does the "world" bother about any of these unless directed by Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists?

"Suspected' militants/jihadists as seen on the screen in Nevada,US interpreting the images from the drone feed- extrajudicial killings by remote control. Obama adm. is playing very coy in telling Americans that US wants the road for transit (military supplies etc) thru Khyber Pass when Obama snubbed Zardari at the NATO summit -while the Dep.Secr.Gen. NATO Alexander Vershbon signed an agreement with Kyrgyzstan's For.Min. Ruslan Kazakbayev for transit to and from Afghanistan of mil.supplies at the Manas Military Base. When it comes to Treason- and the Pakistani doctor- US/State/HRC and Obama adm. (DoD/CIA) are speaking with a forked tongue- US used him with FAKE VACCINATION program- innocent guinea pigs thinking they were vaccinated against Hepatitis A (using medical professionals) and Victoria Nuland should have been asked one simple question- if this Pakistani doctor was helping US/CIA/DoD,how come US left him to fend for himself and not offer him asylum for his help when he was risking all?

STexan, who the hell are you to ask for how info is made on killing scum bags? Dipsticks like you have gotten the Pakistani Doctor that outed Bin Laden 33 years (death sentence) in a Paki prison.

Trust we know what we are doing or join the team and see for yourself. Of course youl will have to live like a dog for a while, but I am sure you are willing to go through the sacrfice just so you can learn that we know what we are doing.

...and after billions they want $5000 per truck each way.

...........and like the idiots we are, we will give it to them. The stupid train keeps getting longer, doesn''t it?

STexan: In case you didn't read the news for the last ten years we are in a war. When the enemy dresses in civilian clothes and fires from civilian targets, and finds refuge, recruits and resources in civiian locals, then you fire back. The Taliban were full and complicite accessories to the attacks on America and America has every right to do what is necessary to bring the war to a satisfactory conclusion.

The Americans and NATO are doing a courtesy by observing the activity of the beligerents, to single out the perpetrators. They are by no means obliged. Until there is a submission to American authority, I see this war going on indefinetly.

Americans have been fighting with Jihad terrorists since their first foriegn war in 1801.

10 militants killed? We know this how?

The drone makes a fly by afterwards and takes photos and all the heads and fingers and thumbs and other body parts are all added up and divided and a total is figured?

Eddie, great retort. Thanks for adding such value to the conversation. (sarcasm)

Back on topic. When are we going to stop killing everyone? It would be wonderful if the US would simply move toward neutrality. Billions of dollars saved annually, fewer of our soldiers killed or maimed, and less overall hatred toward the US. I believe there is a presidential candidate saying these things; but it's certainly not Obama or Romney.

So when are we going to invade Dearborn?

STexan: Its funny I didn't see Obama once in the entire article. What does he have to do with these strikes? Remember he had nothing to do with killing OBL, it was the military. So why would he have anything to do with this? <sarcasm>He's only the POTUS.

Atlas and Stexan a litttle parable to aid your understanding. If I look out the window and see my 19 year old son taking the car to go to the store for a galllon of milk - that's no problem If i look out the window and see my border colllie behind the wheel going to the store for some dog treats- that's a big problem.

I'm not saying that it wasn't one of our drones but what bothers me is, we don't, generally, attack places of worship. Pakistan, for what they may be, is a soverien nation. It doesn't make sense that we would do this. This could constitute an action of declared war on Pakistans part. Why 2 rockets when just 1 of our high performace rockets could do the job. Seams to me that these were hand held rockets. Pakistan is a pain in the butt, but they haven't given us a reason to do anthing like this. I'm thinking a terrorist group did this. No one reported as to actually seeing a drone over yonder in that direction.

Stexan, good observations. I see that that the many against you don't understand what you are really implying. Nice touch on the obama/bush2 comment. Those wanting to blame bush2 have to also now blame obama as well, funny on how their stance changes with who they support.

MOSinEUR, lighten up.

Hammerhead - While your general observations on terrorists and rebels are correct, it hardly justifies US actions if hostages/shields are used. By your standards, our own law enforcement should always go in, guns blazing when confronting illegal activities.

As for...

Until there is a submission to American authority, I see this war going on indefinitely.

WTF are you saying!! Another sovereign nation has to comply with American standards?

Infavor - how droll, the name obama wasn't mentioned. Perhaps you have forgotten that as POTUS obama is the CinC of all things military, security and intellegence related. He is the top dog and by default the one to which credit or shame is attached. The same was true for bush2, or in fact for any past POTUS's.

Ronald hussein reagan - LOL! Yeah, I can see why you have a problem... You didn't know your dog could drive, let alone having a vaild drivers license, the dog wasn't insured by your agent to drive and you didn't realize your dog had a source of income to buy the treats.

While not a problem, you are probably disappointed for lavishing love, care and healthcare on such an incredible dog while the dog didn't reciprocate by sharing in the expenses of its care other than just physical antics.

One can't trust a word of what Pakis say!

Look at Osama case.

The truly sad thing is that this attack and the resulting articles and news stories will create 100 more terrorist. We are fighting this war the worst possible way. Instead of expending all of this money, time, and effort killing people, which will only create more people for us to kill, we should invest in education and economy. When people have a warm bed and a full belly they're a lot less likely to strap a bomb to their chest. I know a bunch of teabaggers will attack me and say I'm some naive bleeding heart liberal, but I would just ask one question. How has your way been working? The War on Drugs has been fought this way and all that has gotten us is a lot of dead bodies, stuffed prisons, and a lot of good cheap drugs on the street. This will play out the same way. As long as we continue the indiscriminate killing we will be creating more terrorist, and when we kill them it will create even more. This is simple, very simple logic, but I know to teabaggers logic=weakness

@STexan

You said asses...hehehe

Imagine if this happened in reverse. If Pakistan, or any country, accidentally killed 10 people in a church. Imagine the anger, the hatred the desire for revenge that it would produce. How would you react if your family was in that building?

People use the word "they" a lot when describing citizens of a particular country. What many fail to realize is that people in other countries, particularly those in the 3rd world and/or with oppressive governments do not associate themselves as closely with their government as we do ours. We say "they" in reference to the leaders and the military, and forget that often times, the people there are their victims as well.

Let me be clear, I in no way support violence or terrorism as a response and never condone any act of violent retaliation. However, we need to acknowledge, at the very least, that things such as this do not endear us to the people there. If I were a terrorist group, I would be approaching those families as we speak to join. Again-not justified in any way and must be stopped-but we need to understand the roots of terrorism before we can fight it, and understanding that things like this play a role is important.

That's because Bush was an idiot, just like the majority of Republicans

I take it you're on welfare or some other tax payer supported government handout program.

STexan because bsnbc says so. All liberals know that this news source doesn't lie...

Considering Obama has already murdered a U.S. citizen in violation of the constitution, is anyone really surprised he bombs religous safe havens during morning prayer?

And for those of you who say it's ok to bomb a mosque in order to get the terrorists, keep in mind, that is likened to say, there is a criminal living in your neighborhood, so we're going to kill you and your neighbors to make sure he commits no more crime.

Dispersing U.S. armed forces, which were intended to protect our currently unprotected borders, were never intended to be the POTUS personal assassination squad...now he has drones flying over our own country...when they start bombing Baptists churchs because the don't agree with Obama's view point, will you be so supportive then?

For all of you with little or no knowledge of our military capabilities....We have "eyes in the sky" that can read a serial number from space. We have missiles that can be programmed to fly in one specific window of a building and exit another from 7000 miles away. We have missiles that can intercept incoming ballistic missiles with pinpoint accuracy. For all of you that don't think we can see these "targets" before they are taken out, please do a little research before opening your mouth. You can bet that the "news" reports small bits and pieces of what really happens, because the military doesn't give away their secret tactics and resources away to the media. These "missions" are carefully planned and executed. Like all missions so can go badly, however that seems to be all the media wants to talk about. Never about the ones that go flawlessly!

uchusky99 says: " any country, accidentally killed 10 people in a church. Imagine the anger, the hatred the desire for revenge that it would produce. How would you react if your family was in that building?"

Well, wouldn't '9/11' be a good example?

Larry-2260635

Gee STexan, I guess they forgot to tell you in advance. Of course someone of your importance should have been informed immediately so it must have been an oversight by Marine Gen. John R Allen.

Maybe this one person is not important enough, but he is exactly right...it should be known...was it 10 children, was it a little girl having a birthday party? It should be known....the problem is we, as American, dont care or really pay attention to other countries! We hear "10 dead".......and automatically are saying things like....Awesome, right on...etc....why not let it be known if they were all children...or whatever? Imagine if we said (during 9/11)..Ummm a lot of people died, then moved on...no we got all names. Its the same thing, i dont know if you can look at it that way, but it is the same!

Charles the Hammerhead

Until there is a submission to American authority, I see this war going on indefinetly.

The war was created (by the US) to go on indefinitely. War = $$$. If you cant see that then you are blind! ALL you pro-war people should stop sitting behind the computer, go enlist and fight! There is no threat, maybe some little ones, but if we got out of their country, they wouldnt be here!

I would bet that if we stopped terrorising other countries, they would stop terrorising us!

And why would you think that? Because the Pakistanis made a big deal and told us to get out of one base, (and quietly relocate to another)? These drone attacks are launched out of Pakistan and their government is actually privately supporting it while publicly complaining about it. Understand that if they really wanted the drone attacks to stop, they could stop them. We never said we were going to stop and in fact said just the opposite.

Pakistan is a mixed bag of "regular people" and nut job extremists. The Pakinstani government has little use for the extremists, but they have to walk a fine line, after all, they are sanctioning killing their own people. No doubt, some in the Pakistani military have ties with some of the extremists, but understand that we would have a hard time doing these attacks without their quiet acceptance of it by their government. But keep in mind that if we came out and explained the cooperation with the Pakistan government, we would hurt the effort.

I'm fine with these attacks and you can be sure that for the most part Pakistan's government is too. If as the story says, there were 4 other surveillance flying there, you can be sure we had eyes on this target for awhile and may very well have followed a number of militants to the site. Is anyone surprised when they make claims like it was a mosque or there were innocents there? Would you expect them to say, "Yeah you found our secret hide out and got ten bad guys?" I doubt it.

Were there some "innocents" killed too? Maybe, we don't know, but are people who support the terrorists really innocents? I don't know where you draw the line. If old ladies and kids are building IEDs in a Mosque, are they just innocent church goers? I'm not believing these guys just because the claim something. We had 5 aircraft involved. I suspect this was hardly just a random opportunity attack. I'm comfortable that we are being pretty careful. That is what they tell us and I have no reason to doubt that. These militants aren't soldiers like we think of our military. If these guys are in, their families are in too, that's the way it works. These guys don't wear uniforms or fly a flag. We have to realize that they aren't just men with AKs either. If women and children get killed, don't just automatically assume they are innocent victims. Keep in mind too that these people will set off a bomb killing dozens of their own, just to get one or two of ours. I am convinced that we use ten or a hundred times more restraint than they do.

Who do you choose to trust? Them or us? We're pounding these guys and they don't like it. Think they are going to admit we are kicking their butts and not try to cover their trail? They can stop this if they want to. Put down their weapons and quit shooting at us and trying to blow us up. We are trying very hard to be selective. If you go back in time 60-70 years ago, we'd just carpet bomb the villages where these guys hang out and would think nothing of it. We obliterated cities in WWII killing many "innocents". But when those cities and those "innocents" were part of the war machine, we felt perfectly justified to do it. I'd like to think we've come a long way since then and I believe we have, but there are limits to how "clean" war can be.

Somehow I dont think the pakis can do anything about anything. They are real lucky the place is not just a parking lot about now. The little sneaky liars deserve so much more.

When all cockroaches are gone.......there will be no more.

Very good, 1NewDay. It's nice to read a post by someone who actually "gets it" for a change. You must be military oriented to recognize the fine nuances of war to include, trickery and deceit for propaganda purposes. Others, with a more liberal bent, not so much. They think it's killing for killings sake. War is as much about self-preservation as anything. Take it from one who's been there done that.

This is one of the most intellegent, well thought out, insightful post I've read. It's not often that you read a post from someone this knowledgeable and informed on the reality of the situation. I really get tired of the idiots that post "ignorant" and/or "racist" opinions and rants with no knowledge or thought. Thanks.

1newday

Who do you choose to trust? Them or us?

How about a third choice: neither?

Warmongering losers. Murdering animals. I don't care what color your skin is or what fantasy hero you worship or what country you live in or which propaganda you use to support your psychopathic selves--you're all the same: terrorists.

They ONLY reason why we entertain these 'cockroaches' are because these 'cockroaches' have nukes.

1newday, you are a major part of the problem. You really think it is a good idea to be attacking Pakistan? The people over there do not want us there. Yes may be the Pakistani govt wants us there but I promise the people don't. That is why you have people willing to fight and attack us because they don't want us occupying that part of the world. Obama is a fool just like Bush. Obama and Bush are considered terrorists there. We as Americans are foolish if we think that this won't bite us in the ass.

Patter123, you have the comfort that there is a Western System of Justice that allows you to be some "independent" all safe and away from the fighting. You can call those that keep you from starving or being killed terrorists because you are above all that. Well a suggestion for you, do not buy food because the evil ones keep the oil flowing that drives the trucks that brings it to you. Don't buy cloths or anything that has plastic in it as the evil ones keep the system going that provides the plastics that you use.

Basically, go live in the forest and don't use anything made by anyone protected by us "terrorists".

1NewDay

is it now changed to " Guilty until proven innocent?" ...... hang you first then do the trial .... stooping down to their level are we?

@American-2232502 --- Turning your computer off might just be theraputic for you.

FJ410, you are one of the people that support the idea not to engage the Taliban until they start to shoot at you, and if they throw away their weapons, they should not be arrested because there is no "Proof" that they were shooting at you.

Well, guess what...the Pakistani Army cannot even get into these Tribal areas with out getting killed, so your Western Liberal mind set does not fit into the realities of war.

innocent lives should never be part of war

In response to innocent lives comments, in vietnem era, little farming villages were US by day and VC by night. These were just plain people trying to survive in the middle of all that was going on around them. I'm certain that there are these kind of people there to.

Excellent post 1NewDay.

MOSinEUR... I have no problem with appropriate military action based on events at hand, but not necessarily through the eyes of a drone. I even consider some of our ROE as being restrictive based on events at hand, but they are there.

Our biggest problem is in the lack of defining appropriate policy and getting the majority on board, especially when dealing with another sovereign nation who have assets we require.

Interesting that you seem to promote going in "guns blazing", rather than having America promote a rule of law in these countries. A rule of law defined by that country, not ours.

If you have any military experience, you must realize that guerrillas are the hardest to combat and identify with very little upside for their opposition.

1newday - unfortunately, WWll had a whole different structure and objectives than what is happenning in pakistan or afghanistan. Yes, nation against nation implies civilian loss of live, but we are not facing a nation against nation conflict here are we?

Want to promote taking out civilians as acceptable "collateral damage" or even allies thru "friendly fire", better get all parties to publicly state that acceptance.

Great post 1NewDay. I usually don't read long posts because they are usually from a nut ranting about something they have no idea about. Yours however, was insightful and intelligent.

american-2051576, you can bet that before a shot is fired, the eye of the drone sees exactly what and where the bad guys are. There are several layers of info gathered before the decision is made to fire the rockets.

And I do support the rule of law as defined by that country...the country being an out law part of the world where no one government can actually fly their flag. Given that the law there is the law of the gun and the biggest and baddest kills off the one that is weak, I say we are doing just like they are doing.

Regarding guerrillas, history shows that you can reduce the numbers of guerrillas to the point that they are just a handful of dirt bags instead of a serious power, BUT the biggest thing that life and the military has taught me is that DOING NOTHING will get your ass killed. Better them than us.



MOSinEUR

FJ410, you are one of the people that support the idea not to engage the Taliban until they start to shoot at you, and if they throw away their weapons, they should not be arrested because there is no "Proof" that they were shooting at you.

Well, guess what...the Pakistani Army cannot even get into these Tribal areas with out getting killed, so your Western Liberal mind set does not fit into the realities of war.

So your saying it is ok to kill my neighbor, because one day he might go to a wedding, get drunk, and crash into my house, hit a ramp and land on my bed at night. killing me and my wife? So based on maybe, i now have the right to kill my neighbor?

Or how about this.....let us stop shooting....bet you they will too!!

We always talk about leading by example.....well our example for peace IS war. We occupy and they retaliate, then we report that they they terrorized us.....oh right, that's just silly propganda! I think you just like war....you should be in politics, you might be president one day!

Appreciate some of the comments, my post was meant to thought provoking. Let me just be clear though, I am a "Practical Progressive" and I support some things that many would call Liberal. I am also anti-war, but realize that sometimes it is a necessary evil. I see the drone attacks in many ways as measures to prevent all out wars. We aren't occupying Pakistan. We are allies, (loosely), with the Pakistani government because we have some mutual interests. The fact is that Pakistan is a nuclear power and it is in our best interests to see the current government there, as crappy as it may be, to stay in power.

I think many people have some wrong impressions of Pakistan. The country has been divided for a long time and the big cities are reasonably modern with people who desire a capitalist style existence. But there are also many of the old "traditionalists" who live in remote villages and are pretty much outside the reach of the real government. There are 170 million people in Pakistan and all of them are not on the same page by any means. Pakistan struggles to develop a national identity. Politics are a big deal there. On the one hand you have a mostly Muslim country that had a female Prime minister for two terms, going back 20 years. The first women ever elected as head of state in a Muslim country. (Benazir Bhutto). Bhutto was the leader of the PPP which was/is basically a "Democratic Socialist" left leaning movement. She was well on her way to winning a leadership role again before being assassinated two weeks before elections. Bhutto was very much with us in the cold war days and was against communist interests trying to take a foothold in Pakistan. She had huge support from a lot of the country. That was about 4-1/2 years ago that she was killed. This was part of their political struggles.

All of Pakistan is not a bunch of Muslim hillbillies. The urban areas hold a lot of people who just want to live a good life in a modern society. It was a Pakistani doctor who worked directly with the CIA to help get Bin Laden. But there is the opposite extreme too. Pakistan is a divided country. Their government walks a fine line trying to maintain control. On the one hand Bhutto would have been good for Pakistan, but she wasn't about to sit quietly taking a status quoposition. Bhutto was about making change in Pakistan and it wasn't going to come easy. The current government doesn't want a civil war, but they also understand that some militant extremists pose a real threat. For a long time, they didn't care that much about the lawless regions as long as they didn't pose a threat to the rest of the country. They used them from time to time to make trouble for India. That friendly relationship isn't the case anymore, but to take the approach of a full scale crackdown isn't so easy for a lot of reasons.

Pakistan is a mess, no doubt, but we need to consider that it could easily become an even bigger mess if the militant wing took control of the government, the military and the nukes. For the most part, the Pakistani military essentially acts independently of the political government but not completely. We'd like to think that for the most part, the military controls the nukes and they are fundamentally practical about it, however, there are factions within the military and the intelligence agency. It is hard to say who is "in charge" of Pakistan, but they probably say that about us too. The President? Congress? The Supreme Court? Right? Left? I've lived here all my life and frankly sometimes I get confused!

I am reasonable certain that a lot of people in the remote regions are just simple folks who just want a simple, sustanance based existence. But life is never that simple. These folks are in a trick bag, if they oppose the militants directly, they will have hell to pay and no real support from the government. I would be willing to bet that some of the intelligence that locates these militants comes right from some of the locals. You can't get all the intelligence from aerial surveillance alone. You can be certain that there is info from the inside and intelligence from the Pakistani government. But if you ratted out the guys that just got blown up, you're probably not going to start bragging about it. In fact for your own survival it may be in your best interests to look supportive of the militants.

I'm pretty convinced that we know who we are going after and although I would guess that mistakes have been made, I believe we are being pretty damn surgical about who we are doing this to. You can choose to believe otherwise, but then please explain the motivation? Sport? Secret Muslim President trying to build his cover? Selective second Crusade? Just because we can? I believe that for the most part we are concerned with protecting our troops in Afghanistan, but we also have to be considering the longer term stability of the Pakistani government if for no other reason that we don't want their nukes to fall into militant hands. To forget about these guys once we are out of Afghanistan would be a mistake. Maybe the immediate threat would be gone, but we have to consider the bigger picture too.

I would much rather we didn't have this problem and the last thing I want to see is senseless killing of innocent civilians regardless of who they are. I have no hatred for Muslims or any other religion, but I'm not a big fan of what religions tend to do historically. A lot of people have been killed in the name of God. It is hard to take an idealistic approach to the issue because the problem is rather complex. I believe the drone program has been pretty successful at crushing Al Qaida and their supporting militant groups like the Taliban. I believe that to a reasonable extent, a lot of the Muslim world has no use for these militants who kill more of their own people than us. If you think about it, part of these successes has to be intelligence from inside. I suspect that much comes from right in the regions these militants operate in. It doesn't seem likely to be coming strictly from technology. A militant terrorist and a goat herder look pretty much the same from a satellite or a drone. They aren't in uniform or driving military vehicles. Everybody there drives white Toyota pick up trucks. Remember, all the terrorists are in fact civilians. We wouldn't be getting the intelligence if everybody in the region supported these guys.

It isn't the perfect solution, but it works and does so without risking our troops lives going after them. It's better than doing nothing and fits the current situation.

Your thinking Bozo is still in office--he aint, thank Allah.

Allah dam it!!Allah is a fake, just like the rest of the Islamic religion.

Kimberly, Allah, God, what's the difference? They're ALL fairytales.

ronaswyhod, Bush was afraid to cause too much grief among the Taliban / Pakistanis. Obama let the Commanders run the war and the Taliban got its ass kicked. If that had happened when they first started to regroup, we would not be playing games now.

Say anything you want, Obama is no pussy on war.

ronaswyhod: So NOW he is in charge and gives orders to the military. I'm sure you are one of the people that said HE had nothing to do with the death of bin laden. Now he's in charge..now he's not. Only to benifit and work with your beliefs. You can't have it both ways. Thats the problem with extremist like you. Always right no matter what the facts are.

@ronaswyhod, get used to it, get over it. There is a plan already in place. No matter what, after we leave we will have to go back. I'm not a war monger, but a fact is a fact. If you think an "R", ex governor, selfprofessed CEO, doesn't have an answers to the issues, but "I'm working on it", has any experience or knowledge to run this country you are nuts. Maybe you should have some DNA work done and than you can have 2 brain cells sparking.

ROTFLMAO! Bush2 is still bad but obama is good? Our foreign military/political policies today in afghanistan and pakistan are little different from what it was under the bush2 administration. Hell, obama even kept gates on until iraq cleared.

MOSinEUR... seems that you are implying that bush2 was a pussy on war but that obama isn't. Seems like a good case for those wanting to try bush2 for war crimes to want to go after obama as well, right? BTW, if you are current military you must accept any current POTUS policy, he is the CinC.

american, there are dummies all over that want Bush tried for war crimes. Hell, I want the guy that ran into my tree tried for war crimes...

And yes, I am very critical of Bush. He let Rumsfeld fire General Shinseki and Sec of the Army Thomas E. White because the testified before Congress that we should not invade Iraq without 550,000 troops to stabilize the entire country. Stability would have kept the sectarian fighting from happening. But no...Bush let Rumsfeld fire the people that spent their entire lives studding their profession and sided with a political hack, and look at the results.

And yes, since Obama has been President, those Hell Fire Missiles have been taking out targets left and right. In my mind, not nearly enough, but easily 10 times what Bush allowed.

Yes and they captured our hearts and minds on 9/11. That is why we are doing what we are doing. We dont want another 9/11. We weren't shooting at them on 9/10, or in Lebanon, or on the USS Cole, or before the first WTC attack, or before the East African mass bombings. This is who these pigs are and the only way to discourage them is to blow up the ones who don't get the message. May a few others will be discouraged. If not, we have plenty of missiles and bombs. Better to fight the war in their towns than ours. All these noble people have to do to stop our attacks is to go back to killing each other and stop trying to kill us. I really don't see how they can win. They might figure a way to come over here and attack us, but do you really think that is going to get them anything more than massive retaliation and a lot of dead? To us they are nothing but a nusance. We do not look at them as people because they have not acted like humans beings. This is where all of the frustration comes from. We have seen this in our own country where we condem those who see a wrong and do not step forward to correct it. But in countries such as Pakistan, this is just the opposite. There are no innocents. If they have knowledge of the wrongs and dont try to stop them, then they are complicit. They bring down the fire and brimstone on their own heads. We are not the problem, they are. We do not have to impose our way of life, bear the cost of giving them a better way of like, food, or shelter. That is their problem and their own government's. If they stop trying to kill me and my country men, we will go away.

Yeah of course Commander in Chief has NOTHING to say about it!

"...take away the nuclear keys..."

Were it only that simple the world would look more like the USA.

I suppose he had absolutely nothing to do with approving and monitoring the demise of Osama bin Laden either right, because it was just so-o far over his head?

I think that Obama could get everyone in America a $250,000 dollar job, pave the streets with gold AND STILL people would b!tch about him. What the heck is wrong with you people?

ugotsomesplainintodo

I suppose he had absolutely nothing to do with approving and monitoring the demise of Osama bin Laden either right, because it was just so-o far over his head?

If you look close at him watching the bin Laden raid it was on teleprompter in 1st grade primer....
See Seal Team Six,

See Seal Team Six run,

See Seal Team Six break into compound,

See Seal Team Six shoot bin Laden,

See Seal Team Six mission accomplished. He can't do nothing without a teleprompter.

@smittyg, and i suppose you didn't watch this on your tv? All though it was edited, this to be expected, when has this ever been presented to the people before? Call it what you may, you actually saw history in the making. Being young and unappreiatve as you are, I can remember watching man walk on the Moon the very first time and how I felt as an American at that time. I remember going to Afganistan and how the people cheered and on to Iraq the people cheered, But before Bush left office you weren't cheering. Why? Now answer this question, how much money is Romney going to want for a so called "Stimulis Package?" Obama is not going to want any.

Smitty thats awesome...lol

thanks

MOSinEUR - wasn't that obamas message in 2008? Only he called it "hope and change".

Heck of a deal when all obama wants to use is rhetoric with little action. Most people want a leader that can also deliver as much as he says. When I was a kid I thought cassius clay (aka mohamid ali) was a braggard and egotist. How arrogant to promote "I float like a butterfly and sting like a bee". His string of victories changed my general concept of him, he was still a braggard and egotist, but damm he could deliver as well. Too bad obama only wants to kick issues down the road, rather than deliver.

Under Obama the war has progressed to a much better place than when Bush was in control. Bush, however, paved the road, and Obama is walking down it with his head held high. They both were doing what was necessary to do at the time it was necessary to do it. They (afghanistan) started it and we're going to finish it. I'm proud of our military everytime I read that there has been a successful attack on our enemies. Remember, these people that some think we shouldn't be fighting would slice anyone of our heads off if given the chance. We must make sure they are never given that chance. They don't care if your a Republican or a Democrat. Your an American and they will kill you just for that reason, even before the war started.

Please!!! Obama and Romney have neither the common sense or ability between them to make a rational decision!! These two ass clowns couldn't do it together! Once again America will have to make a choice for the lesser of two evils! Neither of them have a viable plan to help this country and just like Obama, after he took office said, " I didn't know it was this bad"! The only hope that we have is that whoever gets into office immediately kills the Federal Reserve and puts us back on the gold standard. They should also even up the U.S. tax code. Only then will we have a fighting chance!

Sure we do.

Does the enemy know enough about how to use Mosques as protection?

SURE they do.

SO blow the thing up.

If the faithful figure this out they will get smart and pray in the streets.

They do anyway.

If they can whip out a rug and pray in the Detroit airport, they don't need a building in North Waziristan. A Haqqani gathering isn't for a picnic, it's to plan the next street slaughter in Kabul.

Why would you believe that it was actually a Mosque? These liars will tell anything to fuel hatred for the Americans and it's already been proven that they pull bodies from the morgue to place on a bomb site so they can claim innocents were killed.

Just look for all the a-holes in the air

Yes they did. It was a mosque full of militants.

And believe it, they are not above killing a couple of kids themselves just to have some bodies to show the media. Of course, effeminate American liberals will believe anything as long as it's against their own government and consequently, their own secure interests. What fools.

Bin Ladin was probably dead a long time ago.

And everybody in the US is honest and full of integrity? If this were true you be asking yourself, "what's a locksmith?" "A $1500 loan, no problem , your word is good enough for me.

Marlane; i believe that bin laden had a nose job and collagen treatment and is in the whitehouse

I for one, don't believe BinLaden is dead. Why kill him. It's covered up. He's secretly being held somewhere and being interrogated. Why would we kill him. It's not in our best interest. It is, however, in our best interest to hide and interrogate him and tell the world we killed him and buried him at sea where no one will ever find him.

I can't speak for the others--but I don't follow anyone or anything except for my OWN MIND. And I fear those that avoid the necessity of thought to follow some arbitrary ancient vile text proclaiming ultimate ignorance, demanding genocide and favoring the 'afterlife' over the only REAL life that we are certain exists.

Guest40,

we (Christians" blew the hell out of churches that were a thousand years old when we fought the NAZIs. God is in your heart, not a building. Hide in a Mosque or your daughters bed room and it makes no matter. We will get you.

I suggest that the Taliban use all that man power to build decient cities and homes to live in.....naw, fighting for Allah is so much more fun and productive.

When I was a kid i watched my grandmother dress up in her best on Sunday and go to church. She did this without fail.

One day I asked her why she went to church and did she believe in god.

her answer - 'I am not sure but I go to church just in case'

I prefer to live my life as if every day counts and is the reason for being here. If there is a 'life after' it does not matter. I will find out soon enough. To live without concern for those about you and feel that no matter the effects of your existance you will be 'forgiven' and end up in paradise is just making excuses for selfish/ignorant behaviour.

Hummmbird...

The same people on here saying why aren't the liberals yelling, now if this had been Bush...

You are missing the point, bush2 started out favorably because of 911 and increased instability that saddam was causing within the region, yet over time and some mistakes he came under fire. Call it a unique event under bush2 if you will. Not even viet nam or the iranian hostage situation was comparable. Yet since obama is carrying on much the same policies there as bush2, one would have thought that there would be the same level of outrage and calls for war criminal trials.

Notice the disconnect? The hypocrisy?

Regardless, bush2 is no longer POTUS but obama is, so obama should be the one taking the hits.

Yes, please go.

Yeah, who do those Muslims think they are stealing pages for Christan history and the Old Testament.

Christians are free to chose to worship or not, believe or not and even change religions. Are Moslems allowed to do that?

MOSinEUR

I was referring to the atrocious, genocidal, murderous propensity of Islam--sure it will take another thousand years of slaughtering the infidel for Muslims to catch up to the Christian record--but they are working on it.

Excellent. Ten more murderers of civillians dead. Good job, love the drones.

He/she don't know either. Just spewing normal religious rhetoric...means nothing really, except those that disagree need to be killed.

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Probably another high lib. Put down the weed man.

Probably another conservative high on the lord, pushing some religious agenda.

Have you not learned that the US government is politically driven and as such will lie to you in a heartbeat?

Yes, these Pakistanis will indeed say anything to make us look bad. Why would they want us to look good when we send bombs down from the sky with no warning at all? Oh, that's right. They don't hate us because of that, they hate us for our freedoms. What a joke that is.

These bomb attacks are proof that terrorism is a preferred method of US foreign policy. We should pack up and get the hell out of there and mind our own business, and not kill people who are "suspected" of being terrorists.

Pakistans have lied repeatedly to America. They are cut throat backwards inbreeds. There is no hope for them or their people. Death is their only mission in life. So drones is their only help.

they all are scum, funny PAK. said they did not know Bin L. was in there country yet the man who helps us got prison,pull all our trups out, bomb them for 40 days & 40 night then let GOD sort it out

Hey guys! Imagine this!

Six American individuals killed in church during prayer last night suspected to be terrorists by Pakistani military.

Now how does that sound? I've seen comments all around here about "Kill them all" and "Muslims are terrorists". Imagine people said that about YOUR country, YOUR culture, YOUR lives. The only difference between us and you is that you can kill anyone or destroy anything you want, anywhere, and you can get away with it. Did you know that it's a war crime to attack religious places like churches and mosques? And how would the drones even know that militants were in the mosque? How do we even know if they're important or just grunts? What about the innocents? They killed them during prayer, when they let down their guard to pray to God. That is so below the belt and unspeakably evil that it makes me want to scream. And for the person who said "They're praying for more innocents to kill", what innocents? Because last time I checked you all think the entire country is composed of terrorists. The only innocents getting killed is us.

What's the score now?

How many of ours did they kill and how many of theirs have we killed? Is it even yet?

And what small town villager has the choice of living with the local warlord? Its either that or giving up his land that his family has held for generations, then starve because there are no jobs for migrants. Are you kidding us?

MasterQ,

Good point--things are always complicated--but that cannot lead us to paralysis. Very hard choices must be made. War is bad...but it's not always the worst option. If you can convince me that we must have zero tolerance for 'collateral damage' then it's time to dismantle our entire military....it would save a pile of money and resources. Is that what you want?...a totally disarmed America? If we cannot use our death machines to kill those destine to nuke us then it is pointless to possess and pay for a military. OBL called us a 'paper tiger'--if we be afraid to use our assets then he would be correct.

I don't want to stop all collateral damage as you say that would shut down our military. But what I do want is to NOT make light of the innocents killed as a result of our decisions to kill others that would kill us.

LL

((Puter problems--response below))

Translation: A liberal Democrat is in office, so I will act like I'm moderately uncomfortable about killing innocents with remote control weapons half way around the world, and I will double down on stupid by bashing a former Republican in this post. But mind you, if a Republican was in office now, I would be protesting the White House.

Great! Another koolaid drinker....

good translation ...funny