In Egypt's elections, politics is a new family affair

Ayman Mohyeldin

My cousin Mai Mohyeldin, voting for the first time in her life. Her niece Fareeda, looks on. Future generations of Egyptians will grow up knowing their civic responsibilities and rights in the wake of the revolution.

CAIRO, Egypt -- I witnessed a transformation on my return to my childhood home in Cairo on Wednesday.

Three generations of my family piled into a Hyundai hatchback and headed off to the polling booth.

After boycotting politics for much of their lives, my aunt Faten, 64, and my cousins, Mai, 27, and Reham, 33, along with Reham’s two daughters, Habeeba, 6, and Fareeda, 1, braved the heat and stood in line to vote.


Like millions of other Egyptians, they were claiming a stake in their country. Their decisions were in the works for weeks, but it only took a few minutes to cast their ballots in what could be the most important choice any of them has made in shaping their country's future.

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“It was important to vote because these were the first elections after the revolution. The next president will have so much to do to put this country on a better path, which is what everybody wants,” Mai says.

As for my aunt Faten, she never imagined that she would vote in a genuine election in Egypt during her lifetime.

Standing in front of the five-story building where I once lived with my parents and brother, and where my extended family still lives, I saw myself 30 years earlier as a little boy looking out the back window of a car loaded with luggage heading to the airport. 

My parents had seen Egypt’s glory days in the 1960s and 1970s fade away after President Hosni Mubarak took power in 1981.  A brighter future full of opportunity awaited us in the U.S., my parents believed. So, they like so many others emigrated.

There were good reasons to leave Egypt.

My aunt, uncles and cousins sat idly year after year as Egyptian leaders were confirmed by popular referenda. Corruption flourished, and people’s votes and voices mattered less and less.

“Our voices never mattered, it was the voice of the president that would be dictated on to the people, not the voice of the people that would be dictated to the leader,” my aunt tells me.

Ayman Mohyeldin

A volunteer helps women identify their names on registration records at a polling station in Cairo.

“I thought my daughters would never genuinely vote in their lifetime either,” she says. 

My cousins Reham and Mai are both around my age. They grew up in an Egypt gripped by the sense of bleakness and lack of opportunity that had driven my parents to emigrate.

Their vote on Wednesday was meant to reverse those stagnant decades. More precisely, their vote was simply about believing they could reverse those times. 

These presidential elections – Egypt’s first free and fair vote – were a step along a painstaking process that began nearly 16 months ago with a public uprising that swept Mubarak from power. 

For many who live in active democracies, the idea of casting a ballot can be taken for granted: Voting, whether it's for local councils or presidents, is a routine, often fleeting moment squeezed into the day before rushing off to work or perhaps during a lunch break.

But this historic moment is not lost on people in budding democracies, like Egypt’s: My family voted knowing that others had died to make it possible.

Aside from the politics of the vote – who they would vote for, why they chose their candidate, what did they want their candidate to achieve on their behalf – there was an underlying belief among my aunt and cousins that this time they had a role, this time their voice mattered, this time the candidates have to work to earn their trust.

“Who could believe that these people would stand up on TV and try to convince us that he is one of us, worthy of our confidence and that he would serve the people,” my aunt said.

Ayman Mohyeldin

My aunt Faten Mohyeldin voting for the time in her life.

My family lived one of the paradoxes of Egypt’s revolution. On Jan. 25, 2011, when the movement began, they sat in the comfort of their home, anxiously watching what was unfolding just a few miles away.

They didn’t participate in the revolution and never went to Tahrir Square, the epicenter of the protests. The weight of apathy from years of being marginalized as citizens was too much to overcome.

Their pessimism was deeply entrenched, and they didn’t believe change was possible.

Instead, those who did believe took to the streets every day for 18 days until they dislodged Mubarak.

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The revolutionaries achieved change that few in my extended family thought possible. Their sense of optimism not only galvanized a country but also resonated around the world.

Nearly 16 months later, the roles are somewhat reversed. Many in the youth movements and activists who brought about the change boycotted the presidential elections. And many who didn’t support the revolution early on are participating in the electoral process to bring about change.

Even notable political figures like Mohamed Mustafa ElBaradei – a famed diplomat who ran the International Atomic Energy Agency during the run-up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq – withdrew from the race in frustration because the transitional process from Mubarak to a democracy was being led by the military council.

Many revolutionaries shared his frustration that Egypt’s transition to democracy had been botched. Almost all agree the process could have been better.

Still, so many did vote. 

My aunt and Reham voted for someone very few would consider resembles change: Ahmed Shafiq, a former commander in the Air Force who briefly became the prime minister in the final days of Mubarak’s presidency.

NBC's Richard Engel talks about the importance of Egypt's first Democratic presidential elections since the fall of Hosni Mubarak.

Shafiq, they argue, represents stability and security, the very things that Egypt needs now after 16 months of chaos and uncertainty. Everything else for them is secondary. Security is the gateway to everything else and the only person who can deliver it is Shafiq, they say.

And while they understand why people criticize him for being a remnant of the old regime, they say it’s admirable that he would choose to run in the face of such adversity.

“It shows that he has character,” Reham says.  

And if he steps out of line, Tahrir is always an option, she adds.

They argue that the other leading candidates, mainly the Islamist Mohammed Morsi, is duplicitous. His political party, the Muslim Brotherhood’s offshoot, the Freedom and Justice Party, has made every possible mistake they can so far, they believe.

“They have lied to the people about their political ambitions,” Reham says.

And for people new to the untrustworthy nature of elected officials and their constituents, that goes a long way in a place like Egypt that is experiencing the cunning of politics and politicians for the first time.

Voters lined up in Cairo to choose from five leading candidates: a socialist, two Islamists, and two with ties to former President Hosni Mubarak. NBC's Richard Engel reports.

“All you have to do is watch them fighting in parliament and you will see that they are not up to the responsibility of being in power,” my aunt adds.

As educated women who have worked, Mai and Reham don’t trust any Islamist politicians. They have already lied about many issues, so why would they not lie about their intentions to curb the rights of women or society at large? they ask.

Many Egyptians feel this way.  A poll conducted by Gallup shows Egyptians have quickly grown weary of Islamist politicians, who have seen their popularity wane from just a few short months ago. 

The yearning for security and stability among the older women in my family gives away to the idealism of youth.

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My youngest cousin, Mai, voted for a socialist candidate, Hamdeen Sabahy. While she does like Sabahy’s egalitarian campaign program, she concedes he is a tough sell for most Egyptians and a longshot for president. But she was disheartened by the choice of candidates that emerged in the wake of the revolution and so thinks that Sabahy was the best of the options, not because who he was per se, but rather who the others were. 

The most touching moment for me was watching 6-year-old Habeeba try to dip her finger in the voting ink as an election official pulled the bottle away.

After my aunt voted, with the ink still fresh on her finger, Habeeba reached up and pushed her finger up against her grandmother’s to rub some of the liquid onto herself.

Habeeba has seen her family genuinely vote three times in the past year.  She has witnessed the democratic process in action, no matter how flawed, more than any other woman in my family had in their entire lifetimes previously.

She is now growing up in a house where opinions differ and debates rage, but most importantly, will have a sense of belief that she and her voice will matter.

My aunt Faten, who spent her life believing her daughters would never cast a ballot that really mattered, is convinced her granddaughters will one day vote and it will make a difference.

Who knows, by the time Habeeba grows up it may become as routine as voting during a lunch break.

Ayman Mohyeldin

Two generations of my family voted for the first time. A future voter, Habeeba, 6, is eager to show she participated, too.

 

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Very heart-warming to see democracy taking hold in Egypt. I hope they get to experience all the joys that we do during election time: negative campaign ads, politicians bought and paid for by corporations, incessant polling, extremist wackos coming out of the wood works, etc. Maybe we should send some advisors over there.

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Reply#1 - Thu May 24, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

We did send some advisors there, and they were arrested for their corrupting influence - some how free speech only means ugly, not speech free from ugly.

    #1.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

    This is unusual I always took my kid when I voted. One election day two different candidates wanted my kid to work outside the election with them. I let her take her choice. She picked the distant cousin with the kid in her class instead of the other distant cousin. I went home to bed since I had just gotten off third shift. I picked her up at the election headquaters after the polls closed.

      #1.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

      All the best for you egypt!

      I would not say that popular democracy is the way to achieve it, although, I am not sure what would be better.

      I think that to be a voter, one needs some other quality than just to be breathing.

        #1.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

        Lonerb----I'm really trying to make sense out of your post.

        I was hoping for an amusing anecdote but it seems you fizzled out....what was the point of the post lonerb?

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        #1.4 - Thu May 24, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

        Too early to conclude anything.

        For any nation to progress:

        1. Keep religion in its place and last. Most of the religious leaders have feudal mindsets, backward looking and some corrupt. This applies to Islam most. Egypt has to be very, very careful here.

        2. Don't encourage a leader from estabilishing a dynasty of rulers.

        3. Have a strong judicial system.

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        #1.5 - Thu May 24, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

        Jonathan, yes I agree, keep RELIGION last, but KEEP our covenent with GOD FIRST. President Washington made a covenent with GOD...how else really do you think these AMERICAN phesants beat the brits????weather, bad communccation helped us and the HOPE that GOD would help us.....think about it. Religion who cares...BUT GOD is counting on AMERICA to keep our covenent...even though we are surounded by evil.....believe what you must...but I am not taking any risk...HE is bringing them down by the dozens...you see it every day on wall street.....GOD BLESS

          #1.6 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

          screw Egypt, screw Pakistan and all the other middle eastern countries. So sick of them sucking the American taxpayers dry.

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          #1.7 - Fri May 25, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

          they say screw USA , the reality is the USA is bankrupt today because they get in to other people's business

          and they are NOT Sucking the USA money the USA give Money to the corrupted leaders like Mubarak to torture his people and keep their mouth shut and not talk against the USA , it did work for some times but not any more , After All if you that angry with those countries you need to talk to the US government who Gave that money out , no one forced them to do so

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          #1.8 - Fri May 25, 2012 1:57 AM EDT

          Islamist will promise you anything to be in power, taqiyya, lies and cheating may become absolute imperatives exploiting possibilities once in power they will never allow anyone else to have it through election, and will eliminate others from opposing them, dispensing law that constrict others to run for office. Islamist can not provide security, equality, stability nor jobs needed. Look at hamas, once in control through election, they want to stay in power become dictatorial and outlaw opposing view and maintain Gazaa in dire poverty even with all the monetary aids flowing in purchasing rockets, bombs and AK47's. Democracy islam style. is not same as democracy we all know. islamist runs the country through mob style, look at sadr in Irag he orders his henchmen to kill an opposing party official, hamas does same thing. Islamist does not allow individual success, or encourage better lives for its citizen. maintaining status quo in poverty is the goal. This is what happens when uneducated clerics (they maybe koran scholars that's all they know) and leaders consult them how to run a country and lack the vision or ability to know/understand economics. Examples are Afghanistan, Gaza still backward country, the main commodity is AK47 to kill. Rule of the mob encouraged by clerics/imams thru their sermon quoting according to them is god's willwhich actrually are their own specific ideasto eliminate skeptics.

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          #1.9 - Sat May 26, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

          It was brave of you to write this column. We wish the best for all these people, especially those Egyptians we met during our several visits. We saw the people first, the antiquities next, and felt a delight at sharing a cup of tea beside the Nile with friendly people in Aswan. It is not hard to imagine the women's feelings at being able to vote, and all the voters should be shown respect. We look forward to a time, after the elections, after the Consitution is written, that they will work on a solution for the refugee living conditions. I hope you will someday write about the people in upper Egypt and their ideas of government, in addition to the refugee problems. Wish we could help.

            #1.10 - Sun May 27, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

            What is happening in Alexandria? Anyone know?

              #1.11 - Sun May 27, 2012 12:54 PM EDT
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              What the front yard?

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              Reply#2 - Thu May 24, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

              whatever, whoever win, military still in charge.

                Reply#3 - Thu May 24, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                Societies are transformed when women get to vote. Regressive religious attitudes are moderated as women begin to realize that they are no longer chattel and can do something about their second class status. Women of America, you see what's going on in Egypt - so get busy and do your vote in November. Remember the long hard road that has been taken to get you your rights, and the regressive political atmosphere that now pervades America to reduce your rights.

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                Reply#4 - Thu May 24, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                Too bad that isn't really happening here in the United States when there is still discrimination against women, LBGT community, and people with disability. Just because you have rights in one area, doesn't mean you have the entire basic rights in all area. As for the women in Egypt, you're leading a new era of a hopeful democracy. Cheers.

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                #4.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                Some level of discrimination is inevitable so long as you have free speech, because if you can't outlaw ideas, then some people just end up taking up the cause of prejudice. It's the same everywhere you don't have a regime telling people what to think and which ideas aren't allowed. That doesn't mean that folks who are discriminated against (in your words) don't have rights. It's just a part of life; people aren't perfect.

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                #4.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

                Wise words SF... It adds up if you pardon the bad joke.

                Plus, the US has less prejudice against women and minorities than the rest of the world. But...you are a smart cookie, SF. Many posting here... not so much. Thanks

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                #4.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                Mouzie you don't vote? Not our fault. The question is where do your rights impede on someone elses rights? Unfortunately no one wants to see the other persons point of view only theirs.

                  #4.4 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

                  People have rights until legislatures pass laws to restrict them.

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                  #4.5 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:46 PM EDT

                  Mouzie.....Take some women to Eqypt in bikinis and then a couple of homosexuals and see how tolerant the wider world is.

                  We may be behind Europe in some things......but really....the fact that people can complain about discrimination and not being beaten to death is a really advanced thing for humans.

                    #4.6 - Thu May 24, 2012 10:29 PM EDT

                    there are so many women in Bikinis on the beaches of the red sea , i have been living here for few years and that is not an issue they are topless in some places so you need to see before you judge

                      #4.7 - Fri May 25, 2012 2:01 AM EDT
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                      What a beautiful picture, a young mother holding her child while voting. I only wish you the best on your freedom for years to come.

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                      Reply#5 - Thu May 24, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

                      Nice article Ayman. It was nice to meet your family too, and I wish them, and Egypt, all the best :)

                        Reply#6 - Thu May 24, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

                        For once it is nice to see the positive, optimistic comments out number the "here comes the Jihad!" responses, at least initially.

                        Got love the picture of the young woman casting her vote while she holds her very young (and doubtful-looking) neice.

                        Good luck to Egypt.

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                        Reply#7 - Thu May 24, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

                        So is suicide bombing!

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                        Reply#8 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

                        pathetic

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                        #8.1 - Fri May 25, 2012 2:03 AM EDT
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                        The Muslim teachings and indoctrination would stay with Obama forever and be critical in his quest for power and glory. It was now clear the path needed for revenge. He must at all cost avenge his birthright and complete the jihad against the “Great and Little Satan” (US and Israel).The dreams of Barrack, his father and father’s father once carried to fruition became our socialist progressive nightmare on Elm Street. This dream of Barack was most dangerous during his waking hours. As President, Barack and his progressive minions worked around the clock to implement his dastardly agenda. The country wished it could awake from his four year nightmare, but it was too late! May God save Israel and US! With Obama, the gifts from Allah keep on giving.

                        Obama’s Muslim school notes on Jihad against America:

                        1. Force your enemy into financial oblivion with major budget deficits

                        2. Create a multi generational group totally dependent on the Government.

                        This Group known as the “Takers” will blindly support your Progressive Agenda. They are “easy” when buying their votes.

                        3. Encourage open borders between the US and Mexico. Accuse any one against this as racist. A country without borders cannot survive.

                        4. Form a separate civilian defense force as large and well funded as the US Military. This is needed for any successful coup. You cannot trust the military leaders, particularly in the United States to turn against its citizens. One day this will become the Obama Civil Defense Force (OCDF) The first members of this force will be union thugs, Islamic New Black Panthers and American Muslims.

                        5. Remove all weapons and ammo from the public. Then they will lack the means to resist and they must submit to Allah.

                        6. Blame all your problems on Christians and Jews.

                        7. Islam says a Muslim can lie or verbally mislead the Infidels. Say or do anything that will give you the advantage. Obama has mastered the art of deception to a point that he cannot distinguish between the truth and his lies. He says he is a Christian only to deceive the electorate. The Progressives hang on and believe his every utterance.

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                        Reply#9 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                        HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Thanks for the laugh! I need to pay you back somehow; where can I donate some tinfoil for your hats?

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                        #9.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

                        nazarite is well know for his/her delusions. But as you say, free entertainment is free entertainment!

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                        #9.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:00 PM EDT

                        Free speech includes fiction writing.

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                        #9.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                        Funny how Nazarite provided no citations to back up his assertions...

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                        #9.4 - Fri May 25, 2012 12:23 AM EDT

                        Change "Obama" with "Romney" and "Muslim" with "Mormon." I can't tell the difference.

                        Nazarite, you need a new hobby that will have a more positive effect on you and your clan.

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                        #9.5 - Fri May 25, 2012 1:08 AM EDT

                        nazarite (#9),

                        As Barney Fife would have said, "You're a nut."

                          #9.6 - Fri May 25, 2012 7:28 AM EDT
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                          Obama has assured they will be ruled under Sharia Law.

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                          Reply#10 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                          Which is totally worse than a militaristic dictatorship, right?

                            #10.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                            Has been so far. History isn't a fantasy, it is researchable.

                            Sharia law is totally a dictatorship. Read about the parents who murdered their own daughter because she "shamed the family" by assimilating when they moved to the west? That's the dictatorship of Islam. Beheading women. Bombing innocents. Kidnapping and killing aid workers. They do this at the behest of their religion, which in turn runs their "countries."

                              #10.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

                              obama has had no influence whatsoever on the outcome, either way. The military threw mubarek under the bus to defuse the civilians.

                              Its too hot today..must be obama's fault too. :) lol.

                                #10.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:03 PM EDT

                                And what did Obama do, specifically? Did he accidentally hit the wrong button hidden under his desk in the Oval Office?

                                  #10.4 - Fri May 25, 2012 12:23 AM EDT

                                  where you from Dude , I mean what planet you live on

                                    #10.5 - Fri May 25, 2012 2:09 AM EDT

                                    nazarite (#10),

                                    You need to start taking your meds again.

                                      #10.6 - Fri May 25, 2012 7:29 AM EDT
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                                      Seems like I have seen Egypt election headlines this entire week (or most of this week) suggesting that an Egyptian election has taken place for their presidency.

                                      However, I have seen no election results or a naming of their new president. Just seeming 'hype.'

                                      Confused(smile) - please clarify in one of these articles exactly when the election results occur(ed)...if I missed that important element, then sorry.

                                        Reply#11 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

                                        First it takes two days for them to vote. And they don't have our media projecting the winner 5 seconds after the polls close before the vote is even counted. You do remember our media projecting the winner in a presidential election before the polls closed in all states. That did make a few people very angry.

                                          #11.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

                                          Ms. Dagny Taggart banned, rereg of multiple accounter ren-755775.

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                                          #11.2 - Fri May 25, 2012 4:34 PM EDT
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                                          I really hope this doesn't go down the Sierra Leone RUF path! Good Luck Egypt, you're REALLY gonna need it!

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                                          Reply#14 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

                                          There are good indicators that the Muslim Brotherhood will win enough power in this election to take control of the government. That being the case, Egyptians enjoy the memories of this election; it will be the last of its kind for you. Elections under the Brotherhood will be mandatory roll calls with only one party on the ballot.

                                            Reply#15 - Thu May 24, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

                                            @lonereb

                                            Where did I said anything about my rights being forced on others? I am clearly discriminated against because of my disabilities, I don't vote because none of the parties offered anything regarding anything of my status except those of medicare and such. And I refused to support the cause of many social and economic problems the bi-parties of the United States. But, I am unable to get said aid because I am not 'disable' enough, even when I had plenty of evidence to backed up and witnesses along with medical papers to show how my genetic disorder works.

                                            @SF accountant

                                            You missed my point, it has nothing to do with speech or voting, but the simple fact that gays are not allowed to be married in a lot of states, women are unable to gain the same access to military positions even if they are capable of doing so, women are paid less than males, people with disabilities are often found to be 'not hired' or not get a call back. As I said before, just because you can have freedom in one area doesn't mean you have one in another.

                                            Take care!

                                              Reply#16 - Thu May 24, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

                                              Ayman: Thanks for this story (one of thousands), this was the right way to close out my day...

                                                Reply#17 - Thu May 24, 2012 9:36 PM EDT

                                                enjoy democracy eygpt, hopefully your people are more responsible with their democracy then we in American have been with ours.

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                                                Reply#18 - Thu May 24, 2012 9:54 PM EDT

                                                This is a great moment for Egypt. Hopefully, things will get better there soon. I wonder if Egypt has free cellular service deals? Does anyone know? I found a great one at www.wanesweb.com. Free wireless service for life. I am planning to move to Egypt soon and I sure hope that I will be able to get service there.

                                                  Reply#19 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:04 PM EDT

                                                  Hopefully this is the first step in ridding the country of the real threat: Islam.

                                                    Reply#20 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:08 PM EDT

                                                    That ain't going to happen.

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                                                    #20.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:46 PM EDT
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                                                    Democracy is messy and at times ugly and frustrating. "And it is Marvelous in our eyes." (Elizabeth I) At least I think that is what she said. Anyway..., it is the only way.

                                                      Reply#21 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

                                                      Ayman, your article is an ironic reminder that your Egyptian relatives will have the truly democratic presidential election that we in the U.S. will never have, because our votes are superseded by an ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

                                                        Reply#22 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

                                                        You go Girls, show those men how it's done.

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                                                        Reply#23 - Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

                                                        Looks like Women's Lib all over again.

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                                                        Reply#24 - Fri May 25, 2012 12:43 AM EDT

                                                        I would hate to see Egypt go radical. It looks like they might stay moderate. Maybe like Turkey. It would suck if they started blowing up artifacts like the Taliban did. Blow up the Sphinx or try to F up some Pyramids and the world should light them up. Those are treasures for all mankind. (And ALIENS)

                                                          Reply#25 - Fri May 25, 2012 12:47 AM EDT

                                                          Wouldn't be nice to watch internet news without all of the deceptive ad ploys by Exon Mobil. Ex--Keystone Pipeline Push & Education for America! Do you really want to believe this B/S from these criminals? Do you want to know how much they pay for these overslam base ads? Then ask like me!!! Remember that when go fill up your car with gas IF you have any money to satisfy their over liquid taste for PURE CASH!!! In another other words, F__— Y__, while I screw over your intelligence with deceptions on my real devious intentions!!!

                                                            Reply#26 - Fri May 25, 2012 1:43 AM EDT

                                                            I do not know where did you get your information , you just one guy who dose not like what he sees when you look at the mirror

                                                              Reply#27 - Fri May 25, 2012 2:06 AM EDT
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