Reading several other news sources on this story, I find that the degree of "outrage" is a direct measure of the political slant of the source. The far-right is screaming for blood, but they always are.

Having most of my grandfather's family murdered in POLISH death camps, I'd agree.
The Polish were just as, if not more so, anti-semitic as the Germans were.

I think Obama is wrong in many things, but this "blunder" I think is a correct one.

Nonsense! The Poles were targeted by Hitler much like the Jews. 1.5 million non-Jewish Poles were executed in the German operated death camps. Himmler was quoted as saying the Poles will be exterminated or made into slave labor.

In the Jewish Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem, there is a list of "Righteous of Nations." These are people that, at grave risk to themselves, saved Jewish lives during the German Holocaust. Nearly 25% of those "Righteous" are Poles.

What a sad defense of an ignorant gaff. Rather than accepting that the messiah made a boo-boo you would instead slander an entire nation. A nation that suffered under the Nazis as much as any did and who lost millions to the same death camps. Pathetic really.

I am not an Obama fan, but I think the Polish leadership overracted to this one. Everyone but the Iranians knows that they were German death camps. Obama was just refering to it's location.

Whether American, Polish or otherwise. Conservatives hate Barrack Obama and will jump on anything to better their Neocon agenda against Barry come November period.

For those of you Obama apologists, who think the Poles were in line with the nazis....Google Katyn Forrest Massacre.

It's an election year...

I am not an Obama fan, but I think the Polish leadership overracted to this one. Everyone but the Iranians knows that they were German death camps. Obama was just refering to it's location.

But saying Polish death camps implies ownership. They were German death camps located in occupied Poland. It was a gaff that slandered the Polish people who fought and died fighting the Nazis.

The incompetent bungled again. I see a pattern of blunders from every opening of his mouth, ever since he occupied the White House. I do not think this is that bad, except for the pattern. Anyway, vote for the American in November, and END THIS ERROR.

political slant of the source. The far-right is screaming for blood, but they always are.

A pathetic attempt to try and bring US politics into an issue of historical truth and accuracy.

The Poles don't care about US politics.

They do care that Obama once again put his foot in his mouth.

You do recall 'dr' that the Germans invaded Poland?

Sept. 1, 1939. Caused a bit of a war, as I recall.

Obama is an oaf, who refers to the "Marine Corpse", thinks that there are 57 states, and doesn't know what year to write in Her Majesty's guestbook.

Obama is the most inept, unqualified and ignorant POTUS in US history.

Big F***ing deal what he called it, he is a ignorant man in a powerful position that is so out of touch with how the world works and the thing that have gone on in our past that it really is astonishing to me that he is in fact the president..

Thank you Dr. Hurd for making the same comment I would have made. History is not pretty, but cannot be covered up to fit an agreed upon convent narrative when that is not true. The facts are that anti-Semitic attitudes were raging across Eastern Europe at the time and the Nazis found plenty of support in Poland and elsewhere at the time.

hey, yanno, obama is known for his blunders. take a look (if you remember) his speech in front of the royal banquet about a year ago; while the traditional music was played, he was still talking. not enough sense to wait until the music was finished playing, no, obama tried talking above the musical band. the royal parties were trying to keep from laughing at obama as he made a fool of himself in front of them. also, while in ireland looking for his mother's roots, his escort suddenly developed tire problems, causing obama's vehicle to skid to a sudden stop infront of irish well wishers. he was a laughing stock there too. don't know how many people saw these incidents but they were televised. anyways, obama has no sense and it is quite obvious every time he opens his mouth. i side with tommy, obama is wrong to bring up this memory when he is wrong. can't wait till November!

Get a clue! To say there was widespread Polish collaboration at places like Auschwitz is ignorance and agenda. Yes, there was anti-semitism in Poland, just as there is anti-semitism everywhere today. But there's a big leap between anti-semitism and shipping people off in cattle cars to be gassed. There's a difference between anti-semitism and systemized genocide. And Jabber_wolf, there were no Polish death camps. What an absolute idiot.

Dr_GS....., by your convoluted logic, then the Philippines are responsible for the atrocities against US servicemen in WWII, (Bataan Death March) not the Japanese? Try again. Obama is pathetic, but no more so than his blind supporters.

caught......., my personal favorite and who can forgetthe numerous references to "Corpsman", in a speech about a Navy Medic. Hilarious and profoundly sad at the same time.

Wow good to see how many dumb, ignorant, uneducated people are voicing their worthless opinions this morning. I am a Polish American, My grandmother was abducted by Nazi's into Auschwitz, she was not Jewish neither were hundreds of friends and family members she had that perished at the hand of the Natzis. My great grandfather helped smuggle Jews out of the country for three years straight. I'm also an Obama supporter and just because he misstated one thing doesn't make him incompetent or ignorant.. Relax Pollacks

Hurd and Jabber wolf-- just because you quote a fact-less book means absolutely nothing and does not make your stupid opinion and more valid.

"Obama is the most inept, unqualified and ignorant POTUS in US history."

GW Bush would have called it a Polak Death Camp and Romney would have told us a story about how his ancestors made it out of the Polish Death Camp in the same fashion in that "saw his Dad march with MLK".

Over one million Catholic Poles were killed by the Nazi's, for helping to hide Polish Jews; the Catholics and Jews of Poland had lived side by side for 700 years, the Polish Knights that stopped the Muslim Invasion in the 14th Century had a Jewish brigade; were some Poles Nazis , yes, were some Americans Nazis Yes, future Pope John Paul, fought the Nazis at every turn while a young solider in the polish army, Obama miss-spoke, however his narcissism will not allow him to admit a mistake.

Hardtostarboard,

(Bataan Death March) not the Japanese

Dude, you just proved his point. Bataan is a region in the Philippines, so an atrocity of the Japanese is named after the region it occurred, hence Bataan death march. So a death camp IN Poland, by your own logic, should be called a Polish death camp...unless you're so blinded by hatred of Obama you can't even follow your own logic

If you're having to resort to comparing Obama with Bush, I'd say that Obama is pretty piss-poor as his replacement.

Sounds like a Polish Death Camp to me.

"The President missspoke"

This is obvious, but SOMEONE should have caught this obvious gaffe before it was delivered (if no one else, the President himself).

This goes back to vetting (or the lack of it). We still don't know what classes the president took in all his schooling or how well he did in them. All we read is how smart he is, but for some reason he's guarded his transcripts like the vaults at Fort Knox. Having seen him stumble without a teleprompter, I sometimes wonder if he is as brilliant as everyone gives him credit for being.

Obama made a blunder...it happens, get over it.

I've disagreed with almost all of his economic policies because I have a different view on how markets work than he does, but I'm not going to make too much about an obvious misstatement. Try having everything you say every day scrutinized by the entire world...all of us will occasionally make (big) blunders like this one.

hey! obama is a man with vast...um..er, something I'm sure.

DUFUS is the only word that comes to mind at the momement

The far-right is screaming for blood, but they always are.

True. They don't really care about the mistake past being sharks in a ocean of blood.

Mike-1499840 - maybe you should've Googled Katyn Forrest yourself before posting about it, since it has absolutely no bearing on whether the Poles were in bed with the Nazis. It was a massacre of Poles by Russians :D

Anyhow, it's silly to try and justify the quote by claiming that it's true and Obama meant it the way it was phrased. He obviously didn't and a spokesman made it clear he didn't and apologized for the poor phrasing. One difference between him and the last occupant of the White House, though, is that the verbal gaffes are few and far in between enough that they're noticeable when they occur. I guess right wingers didn't keep such a watch on Dubya's flood of verbal gaffes b/c it would've been a 24/7 occupation

"If you're having to resort to comparing Obama with Bush, I'd say that Obama is pretty piss-poor as his replacement."

Why? Is he not invading enough countries for no reason to meet your satisfaction?

"If you're having to resort to comparing Obama with Bush, I'd say that Obama is pretty piss-poor as his replacement."

He got Bin Laden, Bush II didn't. Nuff said.

jeffr,

odumbass wouldn't have gotten bin laden if it wasn't for Clinton AND Bush. More then nuff said.

Hey hardtostarboard,

You should know what you are talking about before you open your mouth. In the Navy they are called Corpsman not medics. If you are going to piss and moan about someone making mistakes you should make sure you are not making one.

"Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski called it a matter of "ignorance and incompetence." "

So what else is new?

"He" didn't get Bin Laden. The Honorable Navy Seals did. The order for this was given by Clinton, endorsed by Bush and Obama.

Obama got Bin laden. I know you might want to go through the seven stages of denial, but it's time to accept it.

Nope he got Bin Laden alright, like it or not. Just like Bush got Saddam. :) Difference is Bin Laden was the target. :D

Bruce--

We still don't know what classes the president took in all his schooling--ARE YOU KIDDING ME in all his schooling-- Where are you from the 1800s.

When speaking of someone else's intelligence, please make sure you that you are actually smart enough to make them look dumb.

It seems that Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski, a former columnist for the National Review, a fellow at AEI and advisor to Rupert Murdoch, is playing with American politics. I think his "outrage" is pure scam.

What the far-right mob wants to shout down with this phoney controversy is that President Obama was honoring a Pole, and the Polish resistance.

For those of you Obama apologists, who think the Poles were in line with the nazis....Google Katyn Forrest Massacre.

Maybe you should try googling it yourself...that massacre was carried out by Russians.

Methinks the Poles do protest too much. They know exactly what he meant. He was honoring a Polish resistance fighter for God's sake! A little too much overreaction begs the question why? Perhaps a bit of national guilt?

Obama got bin Laden the same way Nixon put a man on the moon.

It seems that Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski, a former columnist for the National Review, a fellow at AEI and advisor to Rupert Murdoch, is playing with American politics. I think his "outrage" is pure scam.

Does any of it surprise you? It's kind of like the manufactured outrage the Republitads are promoting right now on this thread. 99% of them could care less about Poland to begin with.

I'm beginning to understand why Obama's grades are sealed. The man is just not that bright and it shows everyday.

Mike-1499840

For those of you Obama apologists, who think the Poles were in line with the nazis....Google Katyn Forrest Massacre.

What does a massacre carried out by the Soviet Union have to do with this topic?

Jeff-1592116

The far-right is screaming for blood, but they always are.

True. They don't really care about the mistake past being sharks in a ocean of blood.

Unfortunately, the far-left is just as bad.

Extremists in general don't tolerate the opinions of others...

Delores W

"He" didn't get Bin Laden. The Honorable Navy Seals did. The order for this was given by Clinton, endorsed by Bush and Obama.

The Secretary of State has no authority over the military.

What a surprise. Obama pisses off one of our most ardent supporters in Europe. This is the guy who was supposed to repair the bridges that Bush burned. . .isn't he? Instead, he's spent his entire term pissing off our closest allies, and anti-American sentiment in the middle east has actually gotten WORSE during his term.

Sure, some Poles were anti-semitic, just as were folks in every nation. None of this changes that the death camps were set up and operated by the Germans, and would not have existed in Poland if the Germans had not put them there. Only the blind adherents to Obama would try and rationalize this away as anything except a pretty big gaffe on his part.

Jeff,

Nixon was president during all of the trips when we put men on the moon...here is a link with some details:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jul2009/pers-j20.shtml

Personally, I do give Kennedy credit for this accomplishment. But, if you're going to give Obama sole-credit for getting Bin Laden, then using that logic train you should also give Nixon credit for putting men on the moon. (btw, I'll give Clinton and Bush a lot of credit for getting Bin Laden - and I'll give Obama credit for continuing their work and signing off on the raid)

The Secretary of State has no authority over the military.

-raddave

You realize we once had a President Clinton, right?

Saxon, quit trying to whitewash the antisemitism that was prevalent through out Europe for Centuries, and this includes Poland.

The Associated Press Style book advises when referring to World War II camps in countries occupied by Nazi Germany, to use phrases like "death camps in Nazi-occupied Poland" instead Polish death camps that confuse the location and the perpetrators.

It's not like Obama and his handlers didn't know any better.

I can visualize the likes of Bill Maher rabidly foaming at the mouth had Bush said this....

Yashmak, President Clinton was in no position to give an order to kill Bin Laden, as he left office in 2001.

He misspoke.

Now can we move on to the present?

"and anti-American sentiment in the middle east has actually gotten WORSE during his term."

Only with the people we do not care about and are pissed he took out Bin Laden, the educated people of the middle east who are working towards a better future are actually happy that the US has a president that actually knows the difference between ethnic groups, pronounces names and places correctly, and does not see every Muslim as an evil terrorist like some of the extreme folks on these boards.

"..ignorance and incompetence..."

Umm, yeah, he pretty much said it all!

Come on guys, he misspoke. Like every politician and each of us has not. It was an easy misstatement to make. And it is pretty easy to see why some in Poland could take offense.

If the Prime Minister of Poland is upset, then issue a correction and an apology immediately. Not from some White House spokesman but Obama himself. If any of us were President we could sit at our desk, ask a video technician to record it, and be done in less than 5 minutes. So do it, transmit it to the Polish Prime Minister and news agencies, and get this behind us.

Guys, there are legitimate reasons to ponder during each of our decisions whether to vote for President Obama getting a second term. But this gaffe is not one of them.

I by no means agree with President Obama's politics, but I think the Poland Prime Minister has over reacted and President Obama actually made an historically true statement. Right after WWI, Poland nationalist movements were created and many sided with one or the other of Poland's two enemies, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, in hopes of achieving their goals at the expense of Poland and its people. Death camps were set up in Poland and supported by many of these Poland nationalist movements who were into ethnic cleansing.

But was he wearing a flag pin in his lapel when he said it?

Yep, just another mole-hill of mountainous proportions....

Ron - Thanks, I'm glad *someone* got the point!

So, President Obama "misspoke" yet once again, out of "ignorance and incompetence". Our Commander in Chief does so frequently, showing his quite provincial view of the world from that of a minion of academia, terribly lacking in worldly understanding. While Vice President Biden frequently puts his foot in his mouth, it has long been understood and almost expected that that is simply "Joe being Joe". However, President Obama has been held up as all knowing and sophisticated. Alas, that veneer has worn gossamer thin and his level of knowledge outside the world of being a community organizer is now being recognized as pitifully, painfully lacking. We were sold a rusty musket by this presidential usurper. It is now time to correct that error befoe he does more, even greater harm to our nation. Come November, the people shall make that correction.

Unfortunately, the far-left is just as bad.

I agree Ron, I agree.

Nixon was president during all of the trips when we put men on the moon...here is a link with some details:

Kennedy gave the go-ahead to start the Moon program. Obama gave the go-ahead to send the SEALs in after Bin Laden. Same difference. Nixon has little to do with the Space Program, he was busy with Watergate etc. :)

Lets see.. a deathcamp located in poland, one of the most anti semitic countries in the world, staffed by poles who were more than happy with the final solution.. yeah I see nothing wrong with O's comment. These are the same people that killed thousands of Jews AFTER WW2, when they came back to their homes or whatever was left of them. Tusk needs to STFU and face the reality in his own skin head filled racist and xenophobic POS country instead of blaming it on the long gone nazis.

I can visualize the likes of Bill Maher rabidly foaming at the mouth had Bush said this....

And that's justification for being a dumba$$ like Maher? LOL Ok, at least I know your reasoning now. :)

And to say German death camps is just as bad, try Nazi death camps. Not all Germans were behind Hitler and even saved Jewish and Polish lives. That's also like saying all Americans are CIA, FBI and are behind our politicians when it's just another SS of a different generation.

TO: somebefuddledperson who wrote:

".... I think the Polish leadership overracted to this one. Everyone but the Iranians knows that they were German death camps. Obama was just refering to it's location."

Perfectly said, with only 1 exception: I am an Obama fan but that has nothing to do with the fact that you did state the situation, and my opinion, perfectly.

Obama/Biden 2012

And to say German death camps is just as bad, try Nazi death camps.

Yes, to a point. The difference is the Germans put Hitler into power. Through apathy, but in power none the less.

We're all guilty. American turned a blind eye to what was going on in Europe. Moreover both the Republicans and Democrats at the time were extreme isolationists. We heard the rumors of atrocities and choose to ignore them and preferred isolationism. America was no angel during the run up to WWII, not when it comes to our politicians on both sides, FDR included.

Let's not rewrite history to serve our partisan agendas.

Jeff,

I would be the very last person to defend Nixon, but Watergate was some 3 years after the first moon landing. As long as I'm here though, the right wingers analogy with the killing of Bin Laden is a stretch beyond belief. The authorization to send the Seal Team into Pakistan was issued by President Obama. Whether Clinton or Bush put out the wanted poster, it was Obama who used the military to get it done. Incidentally, and just to highlight the hypccrisy of the right, when President Clinton sent 75 cruise missiles in an attempt to get OBL he was accused by then Majority Leader Trent Lott of "wagging the dog".

CAL I really don't care what you think, honestly.

Reading several other news sources on this story, I find that the degree of "outrage" is a direct measure of the political slant of the source. The far-right is screaming for blood, but they always are.

Anyone else realize that this story was not presented in the politics section of MSDNC? Talk about slant...anything that is politically damaging to the Obama administration has since been left out!

And if you want to talk about rewriting history, just take a look at the Obama administration, or better yet the biography on all the presidents in history at http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents. There you will find a did you know section at the end of the bio that links Obama to almost every presidents accomplishment!

The Nazis were the ones who built the death camp, but Polish anitsemitism had been around long before Hitler

By the time of the German invasion in 1939, antisemitism was escalating, and hostility towards Jews was a mainstay of the right-wing political forces post-Piłsudski regime and also the Catholic Church. Discrimination and violence against Jews had rendered the Polish Jewish population increasingly destitute, as was the case throughout much of Central and Eastern Europe. Despite the impending threat to the Polish Republic from Nazi Germany, there was little effort seen in the way of reconciliation with Poland's Jewish population. In July 1939 the pro-government Gazeta Polska wrote, "The fact that our relations with the Reich are worsening does not in the least deactivate our program in the Jewish question—there is not and cannot be any common ground between our internal Jewish problem and Poland's relations with the Hitlerite Reich."Escalating hostility towards Polish Jews and an official Polish government desire to remove Jews from Poland continued until the German invasion of Poland

GW Bush would have called it a Polak Death Camp and Romney would have told us a story about how his ancestors made it out of the Polish Death Camp in the same fashion in that "saw his Dad march with MLK".

Yeah, what a dummy GW is. Maybe we can get together and vote him out of office; oh wait HE'S NOT PRESIDENT ANYMORE!!!!!

Like most European countries Poland likes to portray themselves as victims of the Nazis including Germany. Every country in Europe had it's collaborators and those who actively supported the Nazis. Even Denmark whose people did the most to save the Jews living there had it's Free-corp troops. Many Poles profited by the murder of the Jews. Homes, farms, apartments, furniture, jewelery, live stock, etc did not just disappear from the face of the earth. Many times they ended up in the hands of Poles. Pre-1939 Poland was not a innocent angel and fought wars to acquire territory against Lithuania, Russia, & Ukraine. Because the Treaty of Versailles did not really solve the border disputes in the east. Were the concentration camps and death camps Polish? No, but they were in Poland. Collaboration was about much more than a countries women sleeping with German soldiers during their occupation. Way more. More than 225,000 citizens of the Polish Second Republic served in the Wehrmacht, and some in the Kriegsmarine and Waffen SS. The majority of these Polish citizens were of German extraction, the so-called "Volksdeutsche", or members of ethnic minorities, such as Silesians, Kasubians, and Masurians whom the Nazis considered to be almost Germans.

Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice...... well stop fooling me.

Caught in the middle: "also, while in ireland looking for his mother's roots, his escort suddenly developed tire problems, causing obama's vehicle to skid to a sudden stop infront of irish well wishers. he was a laughing stock there too."

I must respectfully disagree, Caught. I'm Irish, I was in Ireland, and NONE of us were laughing at President Obama. WITH President Obama--yes! But NOT AT! We love President Obama and think he is a TREMENDOUS improvement over his predecessor Bush.

Besides, give us some credit, will you? Why laugh at a vehicle's mishap? We're not like you!!!

Also, we, unlike some of you, respect our Presidents whether or not we voted for the individual. Grow up!

It is strange how many people can combine a complete ignorance of WWII with a complete ignorance of English to come up with an opinion.

1) The word "Polish" means "of or relating to Poland." It does not connote "ownership" but rather geographic location, which in the case of the "roving state" of Poland would require a date in addition to a geographic location to associate it with the Polish people or state. The Polish were, like all the Nazi-conquered countries, suckers for the bait of giving them about 15-20% of Jewish holdings in return for turning them in. The use of the word "polish" was entirely appropriate and correct.

2) We twisted things so far around that our "institutional memory" of WWII is gone forever. We hold a very different view of Europeans and their countries that would have been justified by the events of that war. The Irish collaborated openly with the Nazis, especially in refitting and supplying subs until the British mined their harbors and the Irish Sea. The Austrians were much better Nazis than the Germans, partially because Hitler was Austrian, not German. (This is why Hitler was such a bad orator --- he spoke with a thick Austrian accent.) The French and Swedes both collaborated willingly with the Nazis, sending a greater percentage of Jews to death camps than even the Germans. The French were the most creative collaborators. They brag about how many Jewish children they saved through forced adoption and conversion to Christianity, but the sad face remains that at the end of the war, there were more Jews left alive in Berlin than in all of France. We fought the French Army when we landed in North Africa. The vaunted French Resistance was responsible for the capture of hundreds of American airmen because they were so thoroughly infoltrated by the Gestapo. In the 1960's over 50,000 Frenchmen attended "reunions" of the French Rersistance (called the French Underground Baloon Corps by the British) when there were never more than 500 members tops. The vast majority of the activities attributed to the half-vast French Resistance were actually conducted by French Canadians parachuted into France (with strict instructions to never contact the French Resistance.) Poland, Belgium, the Soviet Union, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Italy and many other countries were only too glad to give up their Jews. The only country that actually showed even a little backbone were the Dutch. And even for the Dutch it was a small minority who resisted.

3) The Poles are very sensitive about their actions during WWII. The right-wingers within Poland were very happy to send their Jews to the death camps, right along with their own intelligensia and officer corps. The lower classes dispised the people who comprised the middle and upper classes which were a cultural asset that actually made the country quite prosperous. They even sold out their religion to their Russian conquerers.

4) No one ever talks about the concentration camps in this country. This country, even after if found out about the death camps, only admitted a handful of European Jews who were kept in a concentration camp in this country. Japanese-Americans citizens, many of whom did not even speak Japanese, were kept in subhuman concentration camps where hundreds died. The personal assets of an estimated 300,000 people were confiscated by the US government --- primarily Italian-Americans, Japanese-Americans, Chinese-Americans, and German-Americans --- and no compensation was ever given them.

Whenever they can do it, right-wingers of any persuation, including our own Tea Party, will use prison camps as a way to be systematically racist. This country has the largest percentage of its population locked away in a massive for-profit prison system that exceeds anything that Mao or Stalin ever dreamed of.

Lori W-2777522, anti-semitism was not unique to any single European country. As far as I know, there was no official anti-Jewish campaign, in Poland, to round up the Jews and send them to their deaths.

The Germans hated the slavic Poles, just as much as the Jews. Up to 6 million Poles died fighting the Germans or succumbing to starvation and disease in concentration camps. Of those victims, an estimated 3 million Jewish Poles died.

I make no excuse for anti-semitism, but we must not re-write history, either. Polish anti-semitism did not escalate into full scale, state sponsored industrialized murder. Many Poles lost their lives defending their country against a most brutal German invasion.

In addition, Churchill and Roosevelt are not heros among the Polish people. Poland was auctioned off to the Soviet Union and Poles remain very sensitive when our western leaders make errors in describing the war's atrocities. Justifiably so!

@Mike,

Since you brought up the Katyn Forest Massacre, you proved my point. The remaining Polish Officer Corps, mostly highly educated peoply, were executed by the Soviets, not the Nazis. It was facilited by Poles seeking to ingratiate themselves with the Communists.

For real, what exactly is the point of making up crap so you can sound like you know something? The reality is that you told a lie to try to blame a massacre proposed by the ascendent Polish Communists and okayed in writing by Beria.

If Poland was such a supporter of Germany why did the Germans have to invade it?

why did the Germans have to invade it?

For land and resources to wage a major European war. Poland has strategic significance. The so-called "Jewish Problem" was much less relevant to German military strategists.

Poland has often been referred to as a "buffer zone" and was neither allied with Russian Communists or German NAZIS. Their modern history is one of constant invasion and turmoil, until the collapse of the Soviet Union.

What I find sad is that nearly all the detractors in this thread who are ridiculing Obama for this mistake are actually not intelligent enough to have not made the same mistake themselves had they not had someone to point it out for them.

Hey hardtostarboard,

You should know what you are talking about before you open your mouth. In the Navy they are called Corpsman not medics. If you are going to piss and moan about someone making mistakes you should make sure you are not making one.

robiscoole

Yes I'm well aware that in the Navy they are called Corpsman, my dad, brother, and son have and currently are proudly serving, Thank You. However it is all in the pronunciation, something dumb ass Obama didn't know as he continually referred to Navy Corpsman (pronounced core man) as corps man. He's the effing commander and chief for crying out loud, he should know how to correctly pronounce the various occupations within the armed services.

History is not pretty, but cannot be covered up to fit an agreed upon convent narrative when that is not true. The facts are that anti-Semitic attitudes were raging across Eastern Europe at the time and the Nazis found plenty of support in Poland and elsewhere at the time.

Not just exclusive to Eastern Europe. Ambassador William Dodd, the United States Ambassador to Germany from August 1933 to December 1937, wrote in his diary that he advised Hitler in March 1934 that the Jewish influence should be restrained in Germany as it was in the United States. He said, "I explained to him [Hitler] that where a question of over-activity of Jews in university or official life made trouble, we [United States] had managed to redistribute the offices in such a way as to not give great offense." Dodd further wrote that Hitler response was "if they [the Jews] continued their activity, we shall make a complete end to them in this country". And Dodd's expressed anti-semitism at the time was miladed compared to the senior members of the State Department, including William Phillips, Undersecreatry of State (second highest ranking member of the department).

Jeff-192116

Obama got bin Laden the same way Nixon put a man on the moon.

Wrong, Kennedy put Americans on the Moon. So Obama got Bin Laden like Kennedy put men on the Moon.

To correct you, Kennedy started the program (with Congressional funding) that enabled future presidential administrations to put a man on the moon. That happened to be President Nixon at the time 20 July 1969. To further correct, Nixon wasn't busy with Watergate break-in until 17 June 1972.

So, if you use the original analogy and WANT to leverage Kennedy, then you would have to go back to either George Bush or even Bill Clinton to say that they initiated the kill order against Osama bin Laden. President Obama was just the man sitting in the corner of the WHSR when the killshot occurred. It took years of intelligence operations (and Congressional funding) to collect the right data and piece it all together to put all the chess pieces into position. Much like building a rocket didn't occur over night as well as all the training involved to go to the moon.

When everything was in place, we went to the moon and it was President Nixon that was sitting.
When everything was in place, we went into Pakistan and it was President Obama that was sitting.

There is a reason why Obama picked up the phone to congratulate President Bush; it wasn't to gloat, it was to say thank you for putting all the assets into place so that he could make the gut call that every president had to do in the past at one point in their administration. Had Bush not provide the initial directives to his staffs (much like Kennedy to his staff), Obama would still be hunting for bin Laden and Nixon would still be building the rocket.

Case in point: Where is Joseph Kony? Not that easy to find, is he? Suspect it will be a while for him because the intelligence cells (and Congressional funding) just got built to look for him...

Good comment [O.o], I thumb upped you. There is one minor detail though. Yes, Kennedy started the moon mission, but either Johnson or Nixon could have said "to hell with that" and killed the program. They didn't of course, they would probably been lynched by the public. Clinton started the hunt for Bin Laden, but Bush II or Obama could have given up. Although I think them might have been lynched as well if they had. I think the main point is, none of the sitting presidents gave up on those projects.

Roger that, steel toed boot.

I sometimes see people struggle with analogies and if they do some research that can piece it all together correctly. Sometimes, people tend to write with emotion and off of hearsay that they picked up over the years [whether it is right or wrong] and there are vultures on these boards that love to swoop down and go for the kill, when all it takes is calm dialogue to convey where you are coming from.

Those that do their homework and if necessary speak from authority or with peer-reviewed citations can allow others to further understand their point of view. Sometimes, I have been guilty of an emotional rant every now and then, but this was an easy one. Unless the dates have changed THAT much from when I took history, I don't think I needed to cite my sources-- this is just plain 'date-knowledge' aka history...Cheers!

We still don't know what classes the president took in all his schooling--ARE YOU KIDDING ME in all his schooling-- Where are you from the 1800s.

When speaking of someone else's intelligence, please make sure you that you are actually smart enough to make them look dumb.

Please post the transcripts, then, with classes and grades. I (and many others) would love to see them.

Oh Bruce - I do believe Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review or some such post, while attending school. You don't get that kind of recognition by being a dummy. I will look it up for yuou.

Bruce, here is the infomation on Obama in Harvard, from Wilipedia. Born in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review.

I am quite sure that to be president of the Harvard Law Review, you must be a top grade student. I am willing to bet, you were never a president of anything and had trouble graduating from high school, never mind Columbia and Harvard. Note: Obama did not have the help of having a daddy that was president, as the dimwitted, alcoholic frat boy Bush.

Bush was nothing more than the "useful idiot" for the Zionist cabal, hired by Cheney to run the Pentagon and start the war in Iraq using lies and cherry picked intelligence. Obama is smart enough not to let the same fools nudge him into attacking Iran.

HardtoStarboard--

However it is all in the pronunciation, something dumb ass Obama didn't know as he continually referred to Navy Corpsman (pronounced core man) as corps man.

You must have had a field day with every speech W gave. I mean with your clear outrage of proper pronunciation, nucular should have made you crazy. But somehow with your name I rather doubt that you really care about pronunciation, it is just something to bitch about when it comes to Obama.

@!$%#ing trolls everywhere.

TN redneck, please understand that the CIC, Generals, Admirals, Comanders, Captains, and senior enlisted get credit or condemnation for what happens under there watch. We all know he did not pull the trigger. Get over it.

Wrong, Kennedy put Americans on the Moon. So Obama got Bin Laden like Kennedy put men on the Moon.

Actually it's Obama got Bin Laden like Richard Nixon put men on the moon since the moon landings happened during the Nixon administration. Sure Kennedy gets credit for starting it but then Bush gets credit for starting the hunt for Bin Laden.

It's Commander-in-Chief, not commander and chief. Did any of you dip$hits actually finish grade school?

To correct you, Kennedy started the program (with Congressional funding)...

Nah, really Googly'eyes?

I thought maybe Kennedy saved up his allowance and broke into his piggy bank to pay for the Apollo project? :)

What would the world be like without a genius such as yours, I shudder to think... *rolls eyes*

P.S. brainiac, I wasn't the person to start the ridiculous comparison, that was someone else. I just corrected him on who sent men to the Moon.

Now go back to bed...

Jeff-1592116:
You wrote as a rebuttal to my original post:

Nah, really Googly'eyes?

I thought maybe Kennedy saved up his allowance and broke into his piggy bank to pay for the Apollo project? :)

What would the world be like without a genius such as yours, I shudder to think... *rolls eyes*

P.S. brainiac, I wasn't the person to start the ridiculous comparison, that was someone else. I just corrected him on who sent men to the Moon.

Now go back to bed...

Allow me to retort:
That's it? In five hours you were able to muster up just enough brain bytes to come up with this paltry display of a comeback? I am saddened by the education and upbringing you received that this was all you could develop in just five hours. You do realize that even if the original post was a 'ridiculous' comparison, you felt obliged to use your comparison to correct the original post, even though you are in total error with your comparison.
I believe you to be a spoiled piss-ant that was upset that someone took the time to pull out historical facts and presented them eloquently enough so as to either A) support your argument or B) amplify your argument but with caveats. I am sorry if you do not know how to maneuver around the internet better than a third grader who is just starting to explore their body so they would much rather explore the internet world of porn rather than support your original argument with correct factual dates.
You are a representation of a small sub-sector of the bell curve that is to the left with the other sub-80 I.Q. personnel that respond on these pages. You probably haven't even noticed that I sent you an email to find out what your mental deficiency is as to why you would try to belittle me out in the open. No matter; I will point out to everyone else how feeble-minded you really are.

If you want to tout Obama as the savior that hunted down Osama bin Laden, that is fine. But your second premise that Kennedy put men on the Moon is NOT entirely correct. As a matter of fact, it is DEAD WRONG. Kennedy provided the dream and the directive, but by the time the program advanced along and built the rocket, it was indeed Nixon that was sitting in the seat.
How you can twist facts around in that 3-inch thick domed-melon of yours astounds me. Your decision-making skills must be a feat of modern medicine or at least a medical miracle to allow you to wake up and go to the bathroom without @!$%#ting the bed or your pants on the way to the toilet. Your walnut of a brain must be ricocheting inside your melon like a well-hit 5-iron in a tiled bathroom.

Do yourself and everyone else on this board a favor and exercise Rule #1: Never pass up an opportunity to keep your mouth shut.
If you cannot follow rule #1, then for the sake of humanity either research your information prior to posting or if you are no-@!$%# serious that you are in the right, back it up with some peer-reviewed citations so we can all see where you are coming from. If you still feel the need to post and attack, don't bother; we all know where you are coming from and we all know you only have at best an elementary-level education...

See ya in the funny pages. I am underwhelmed by your lack of personality and ability to master the English language...Tool.

>:-/

PS: See that little girl in my default pic? That's you and I am the gorilla flipping you off...Jerk-off.

Jeff-1592116

Unfortunately, the far-left is just as bad.

I agree Ron, I agree.

Nixon was president during all of the trips when we put men on the moon...here is a link with some details:

Kennedy gave the go-ahead to start the Moon program. Obama gave the go-ahead to send the SEALs in after Bin Laden. Same difference. Nixon has little to do with the Space Program, he was busy with Watergate etc. :)

Wrong again, Dumbass-
Nixon had as much to do with the Space Program as Johnson and Kennedy did. Your analogy is off base to compare Kennedy to Obama. Kennedy is compared to either Clinton or Bush- both presidents had their own separate kill order; Obama acted on the kill order after all the intelligence and operational assets were in place. As I posted earlier, the space shots to the moon and the Watergate break-in were approx three years apart, so your post that Nixon was too busy with Watergate etc. is false and non-factual.

Had you taken the time to do the bare minimum research you would see that your original premise stinks on ice and I can smell it all the way from here. Your lack of authoritative posting with nil research has discredited yourself amongst your peers and this is all you will be known for. Think about what you post next; a simple mea culpa can go a long way and rebalance your credibility or if you continue to be non-factual, everyone will know that you are one of dim-witted ones to ignore and you will be squelched by those that are on a higher plane of existence than you. YOUR DECISION; THE WORLD AWAITS THE RESPONSE FROM THE ALL MIGHTY DUMMY...

How you can twist facts around in that 3-inch thick domed-melon of yours astounds me.

Phwww. That was close. At least my domed-melon is 6". I know. I measured it. With a tape measure. :) heheh

LOL- good one, Rich! At least some people have a sense of humor and hopefully that my original post was to provide a balanced reiteration to a statement that was off. His rebuttal, however slanted and distorted towards slamming me was unnecessary and did not support his original argument. It only perpetuated the fact that he is a tool.

So was that 6" a diameter measurement or a circumference measurement? Big difference...

:-)

I am quite sure that to be president of the Harvard Law Review, you must be a top grade student.

Judging from the way you worded that, I don't think you are 100% positive are you? From what I can find, "Fourteen editors are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Twenty editors are selected based solely on their competition scores. The remaining editors are selected on a discretionary basis."

So was Obama selected based on grades and competition scores, because of his competition scores alone, or was he a "discretionary" admission? We really don't know, do we? He obviously had some connections somewhere in order to get into Harvard in the first place. He wasn't the son of anyone famous and was a poor black kid from Hawaii. Yet somehow he ended up at Harvard. Is it wrong to ask how? Perhaps his connections with William Ayers or others played a roll? If not him, then who? There are just so many unanswered questions that the American people really deserve to know the answers to, but the media don't want to touch them because they are so in love with the man. After all, it was fair game (and rightfully so) when people questioned how George Bush avoided the service by serving in the national guard. Our leaders should be over-vetted, not under-vetted. We should know what we are getting. Good Lord, if Romney driving with a dog on the roof of the car is valid, then so are these open questions on Obama's past.

So was that 6" a diameter measurement or a circumference measurement? Big difference...

I am not telling. It is a secret. That way I can use the glass is half empty or glass is half full options depending the situation. :)

And btw, I agree with your issues on the initial personal attack.

On a more serious question and with regards to someone else's quote,

He obviously had some connections somewhere in order to get into Harvard in the first place. He wasn't the son of anyone famous and was a poor black kid from Hawaii. Yet somehow he ended up at Harvard.

I thought President Obama's father was a "prince" of Kenya, or a high ranking person in that countries established families? If so, it is often the case that sons of foreign country leaders can get acceptance in prestigious US universities where the average American citizens with equal or better scores with less family connections have more difficulty doing the same. Am I correct on the class level of President Obama's father?

It's a perfect description of conservatives. o.O

Yeah, but look who said it.

Being that he didn't understand the statement, who's the real ignorant one?

TFNJ....uh....Obama!

When the Germans first started rounding up the Jews, there was hardly a peep out of any in Europe, because antisemitism was the norm for much of Europe.

The president misspoke. No harm meant or done. Enough to give the crazy right reason to howl though. If the "Prime Minister and Foreign Minister are really so upset, it could indicate they are more the stereotypical "polacks" than Polish.

Reading several other news sources on this story, I find that the degree of "outrage" is a direct measure of the political slant of the source.

So the outrage from the Polish is merely a reflection of their 'political slant'?

Or is it the honest sentiment of a staunch US ally which has been insulted by our President.

"Misspoke". The media had precious little patience for such transparent excuses with the last President. It guess it must be a reflection of their 'political slant' that this one typically seems to get a pass.

Wow. I'm non-Jewish Polish American and many members of my extended family were killed in "work camps" during Nazi occupation. I can assure you, I am not an unusual case. The Nazis sought the destruction of all Poles and considered Slavic people sub-human, a lower species.

I don't know what's worse-- the original comment by dr hurd or the fact that people agree with him...

typical. Deflect any responsibilities by pointing out that the other guy, the one who left office 4 years before, was worse. Helps explain why this country's going down the tubes, people like you. Never your fault, always the other guy's.

That, sir, is really getting old. You need to come up with some new excuses for this President's ineptness at all things presidential.

He can't keep his foot out of his mouth. But the sheeples keep making excuses, or trying to deflect. Getting old, guys, come up with some new material, like his record.

Seems like the concensus is building that the last 11 years have very few distinguishing features.

Perhaps voting out all incumbents is the answer?

Oh M. Onger how I wish that would happen. As usual, the American voter mentality seems to be that every other state should vote theirs out. ours are okay and we'll keep electing them. So we keep getting the same ones from every state.

I can gripe because I voted against every incumbent and long term political figure in my state's primary. Didn't do any good, though.

OK, Obama made a simple gaffe. I'll give ya that one. I think we all know he was referring to the NAZI death camps located inside Poland. I don't recall seeing any POLISH controlled death camps while I was over there serving in the US Army.

If thats all you have to bitch about, then its going to be a good day.

Perhaps voting out all incumbents is the answer?

To be replaced by whom?

I am tired of hearing the same rant that, "I inherited this mess from the previous administration."

That's like saying, "I bought this used car and it had a flat tire...So now I will flatten the other three tires to match the first one."

While he was at it, he refused to give it a regular oil change or change the filter...Instead, he listened to his wife (Congress) for the first two years of owning the car saying she wanted the car to look new so he opted for a new paintjob and a carwash while the paint was still wet. Lastly, he is still driving this car into the ground and failed his safety inspection because the headlights are out and he will be hitting a tree soon...All the while the bank that he took a loan out on (Bank of China) is expecting payment and I think we are behind on a couple of payments...Perhaps they will repossess the car? Who would want to after the crap that was done to it?

OK, Obama made a simple gaffe.

One of many.

But, he'll always get a pass from his toadies, and they will always somehow make it about Bush.

If you're having to resort to comparing Obama with Bush, I'd say that Obama is pretty piss-poor as his replacement.

I am tired of hearing the same rant truth that, "I inherited this mess from the previous administration."

If thats all you have to bitch about, then its going to be a good day.

Oh no, some of us still have perspective and realize that this (one of many) very public foot-in-mouth embarrassments by Obama pales in comparison to our long term high unemployment, never-ending housing crisis and exponentially worsening debt under his "leadership."

RTSOB,

"To be replaced by whom?" ANYONE!

Poles are sensitive about this. There are many ignorant people that think because the Germans located the camps in Poland then the Poles operated the camps. Actually 1.5 million non-Jewish Poles were executed in those camps.

What, the Nazi Deathcamps in question weren't in Poland?

Sorry, but he was referring to geographical location and nothing else. What a dolt.

They were German Death camps in Poland. Saying Polish death camps implies ownership. Pathetic defense.

Poles are sensitive about this.

Considering how much we've worked together for many years they should cut people some slack. Especially when it was still being refereed to as a geographic location. If they're that thin-skinned screw em.

Are the Poles out of their minds??? Where were they when the land in Poland was used to create the crematoriums? THe Nazi deathcamps were in Poland - there's no denying that... and the Poles stood by and even helped round up the Jews. Even prior to the war they would stone Jewish homes on Easter and call Jews killers of Jesus. I know because my parents were there and experienced the worse of the worse, unfortunately. It's time the Poles lived up to their actions and admitted their role in attempting to annihilate the Jews.

How about returning the land and all the belongings that you stole from my family and others?? This is not to say that there weren't Poles that helped. I'm talking about everyone else.

Jeff, you could be right, but the Poles are extremely sensitive about this issue. An able leader would know that, and speak carefully. This president does not do that very often, as evidenced by his Trayvon, Rev. Wright, the black professor issues, and other gaffes. Don't even start on the Mouf Biden.

@ Jeff - So just screw em? This certainly isn't the liberal progressive tact of tolerance and understanding.

Oh...you don't use that line any longer...I get it.

Yep screw em and anyone using it as a chance to throw in a jibe at Obama.

Everyone with half a brain knows he was talking location. Anyone willing to use the Nazi Deathcamps as opportunity to slam Obama is a lowlife POS.

No but you go ahead and run with that even if you're just being a pathetic POS and it has nothing to do with Poland and everything to do with your hatred of Obama.

Screw you too.

Someone can't accept that Mr. Perfect screwed up.

If you're having to resort to comparing Obama with Bush, I'd say that Obama is pretty piss-poor as his replacement.

Obama was supposed to be the Messiah, the Great Uniter.

"Hope and Change".

He's been a jackass, and he's certainly not sounding very hope-y change-y lately.

His is a campaign of negatives.

I can see why.....after all, he can't run on his record.

"It's the economy, stupid!"

-James Carville

You've hit a new low Jeff

Someone can't accept that Mr. Perfect screwed up.

So why don't you? Your words. Obviously you can't accept the mistake.

Now that you have shown how stupid you are no use talking to you any longer. :)

jeff-159,

Blind faith is a very dangerous road to travel.

Put your oxygen tank back on and hush up you dolt.

Blind faith is bad, but blind obedience is evil.

Nice Jeff, you kiss your mother with that filthy mouth?

At least I have a mother, what egg did you hatch from? :D

Obama is a narcissist who can never be wrong. He will never admit to any mistakes, it's a character flaw.

Think again brainiac, they already did admit it. :)

Being a moron must be a prerequisite to being a Republitard. :)

Word Anonymous User! I think the Polish Foreign Minister totally nailed it! I guess the teleprompter must have been turned off. What a complete tool.

The White House said President Barack Obama misspoke on Tuesday when he referred to a "Polish death camp" while honoring a Polish war hero.

The president's remark had drawn immediate complaints from Poles who said Obama should have called it a "German death camp in Nazi-occupied Poland," to distinguish the perpetrators from the location. Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski called it a matter of "ignorance and incompetence."

And we can expect Mr. "I-like-to-fire-people-who-provide-services-to-me" to be perfect every time if he's elected?

BWAAAA-AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The country was over run and its military defeated. Why not try and get your facts straight. However there were many who did collaborate with the Nazis. George Soros,, Obama supporter, Controller of NPR, NBC, MSNBC anf the NY was A Nazi Collaborator. Just keep that thought in mind when you go to another one of his sponsored left-wing rallies.

He does have his fact straight.

You are just mixing in information that is factual but not relevant. Poles were very much a participant in the death camps.

So ignorant!

Watch the movie "Defiance".

Some Poles were participants and some where not. Just like there were Germans who supported the Nazi party and some who did not. Just like there were Americans who were Nazi sympathisers and some who were not. WWII divided a lot of people and not everyone was complicit or even aware of the death camps on either side. Let's quit trying to define things with such a broad brush - Kind of sad that all of this is sparked by a remark that was probably not planned or intended to cause insult.

I also find calling a 13/14 year old of Jewish decent whose father directed him in his actions (in order to protect him) a Nazi collaborator a little questionable. You are really stretching for the insult there huh? You dislike his policies - fine. Criticize him for that. Trying to disparage him for something he did under his father's direction when he was 13 is just sad. I find it even more amusing that you observe that Poland was overrun millitarily as an excuse for behavior, but then don't grant the exact same reality for a 13 year old of Jewish ancestry. Irony?

Irony? Really? Soros himself said that the "enjoyed" the power he felt by taking his fellow Jewish neighbors property, creating an inventory, and handing it to his Nazi handlers. He is a Nazi collaborator, of that there is no doubt, as well as the puppet master behind bho's rise to power. You silly liberals, learn the history of the world, and not just the history since 2002.

The facts are that Poles were on both ends of the gun barrel.  Russians and Ukrainians, too (remember Demjanjuk?).   Even some Jews cooperated with Nazis (Judenrat). Every people must own their heroes, and their villains, too.

You are just mixing in information that is factual but not relevant. Poles were very much a participant in the death camps.

Yes, they were the VICTIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If any of you truly knew and understood Polish history, you would understand why they are so sensitive about this issue. History has been unkind to Poland since the 1700s...they've been conquered and divided several times, by Russia, Prussia, Germany....there's a great book on the history of Poland called "God's Playground" by Norman Davies that covers the history of Poland thru WWII and into the Cold War era. If you read it, you will understand Poland's resentment and distrust towards Germany and will also understand why they are so sensitive.

I understand that Obama mis-spoke; however, as liberals always preach...words have meaning - especially in int'l diplomacy. Say the wrong word and it can lead to war....

I can forgive a mistake; what I can't forgive is the person who made the mistake not willing to take responsibility for it (or his minions who will defend him to the death even when they know he made the mistake)!!!!!!!!!

My Polish Catholic grandfather was murdered in Auschwitz by Nazis - so was his brother. My maternal grandfather, also Polish Catholic, spend 5 years in concentration camps as slave labourer (he managed to survive). 1,5 million Catholic Poles died in Nazi concentration camps between 1939-44... Poland never had a collaborationist pro-Nazi government. EVER! In fact after 1939 invasion all Polish institutions were abolished, and that included even SCHOOLS (my grand aunts and grand uncles had to learn to read after the war, because Nazis forbid teaching to Polish children during occupation).

As for Polish Police, they were maintained by Nazis for routine police tasks amongst Polish population and all other missions Nazis would order them. Any disobedience was punished by death and it was impossible to demission, because that ALSO was punishable by death! Desertion was punishable by extermination of the whole close and distant family! So our policemen did what they were told to do, under duress and threat of death - and instead of all of that most co-operated with the Resistance, giving information and even stealing weapons and amunitions. Those who really went into collaboration (there is always some) were targeted by Polish Home Army (Resistance) and many were executed during the war.

Best regards to all the haters...

George Soros was what 12 at that time. He must have been a major influence. that's really reaching. Having this as an actual evernt is laughable.

Camps were locasted in Poland. To think the comment infered all Polish assisted or some didn't assist is foolish at best. That's simply historical fact.

Ywet another election year manufactured incident. When will the opposition actually discuss the priorities of today?

Of course the Poles were complicit, it was either 1)guard this camp or 2)be put in with your friends and family. Many did not have a choice and chose the easiest way out if it meant another day to live.

But what Obama said was in context, attributing the camps as a Polish idea, owned and operated by the Polish government which if our great history professor who started this thread would understand, the Polish government no longer existed as sovereign.

jay c- What are you talking about? On August 22, 1939, as you well know Hitler authorized his commanders to kill"without pity or mercy, all men,women, and children of Polish descent or language." Himmler stated "All Poles will disappear from the world...It is essential that great German people should consider it as its major task to destroy all Poles." Over six million Polish citizens were killed during the German occupation- half were Christians and Catholics. Read your history from reliable sources please.

Talk to the jews that suffered under Polish/German rule.

The Poles were all-to-happy to turn over every Jew they could find, the only resistance was either jewish or nationalistic. Poles had a very large hand in the death camps and were compliant with them.

you are an ignorant moron and you do not have any idea what you are talking about. Why do you feel compelled to voice your opinion when you obviously don't know what you are talking about??

The Holocaust, also known as haShoah (Hebrew), was a genocide officially sanctioned and executed by the Third Reich during World War II. It took the lives of three million Polish Jews, destroying an entire civilization. Only a small percentage survived or managed to escape beyond the reach of the Nazis. The Holocaust in Nazi-occupied Poland involved the implementation of German policy of systematic and mostly successful destruction of indigenous Polish-Jewish population.^[1][2] The official Nazi term for the extermination of Jews during their occupation of Poland was the euphemistic phrase Endlösung der Judenfrage (the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question"). Every arm of the sophisticated German bureaucracy was involved in the killing process, from the Interior Ministry and the Finance Ministry; to German firms and state–run trains for deportation to the camps.^[3] German companies bid for the contracts to build the crematoria in concentration camps run by Nazi Germany in the General Government and other parts of occupied Poland.^[1][4]

Throughout the German occupation, many Poles – at great risk to themselves and their families – engaged in rescuing Jews from the Nazis. Grouped by nationality, Poles represent the biggest number of people who rescued Jews during the Holocaust.^[5][6] To date, 6,135 Poles have been awarded the title of Righteous among the Nations by the State of Israel – more than any other nation.

I guess this is just bent reality to you.

So... 9/11 was an act of American terrorism? Nice logic you've got there!

Jay- they weren't Polish death camps. I encourage you to visit your local library and read about Nazi occupation

of Poland during WWII. There is an apology necessary from Mr. Obama.

He should have inferred that if he wasn't. No, it wasn't every Pole's fault, just like not every American is a Democrat or a Republican. But many Poles were at fault.

Seems the Polish person's mis-reading of the statement made him believe our President was blaming the Polish people, and not a geographical location. But he had to get it translated and it was probably twisted. But what's your excuse?

Please don't vote TFNJ.

Oh, but I will. Obama 2012.

But that's beside the point. Why didn't you understand the meaning of the statement? English language comprehension?

History comprehension TFNJ? It was ignorance or his usual arrogance just like you are showing by blindly voting for this community organizer. You must rely on the government; hence the only reason you would vote for this idiot. Pull your head out, you might learn something.

if liberalism is a mental disorder, conservatism is a spiritual disease, like alcoholism; it is founded on denial, fear, projection. why don't you get involved in a twelve-step program? maybe you could slowly evolve into something human

I notice a lack of rebuttal on the issue from you. Sad, I was hoping you could defend your point more. Who I'm voting for is not relevant, so quit with the childish come-backs. When you heard "Polish death camp", did you think it was run by Poles? Or is that knowledge already common enough, that the Polish rep didn't need to defend the point? Does everyone need historical details explained? Your comment on me having a "history comprehension" is odd, since I clearly understand who ran the death camps without explanation, and so should the Polish rep. Guess he's afraid that anyone without common history knowledge would over react and place blame where it doesn't belong...

You are right, I am a bit arrogant. But only because I know what I want. Obama 2012

you both are proof that liberalism is a mental disorder. Time for you to go back to your room in the basement of your mothers home.

Most people do understand that the German's were responsible loser, it was just a horrible way to describe such a horrible event in history. But you libs are so blind and anything Obama says or does is OK, just like the 57 states Obama said he visited.

OMG = Obama Must Go.

Seriously, if I laughed at your childish jokes, would it get you past that and encourage you to defend your point a little more? Here... LOL

Where were the Warsaw Ghettos? Is that not Poland? Would Obama need to say "German Ghettos" to make it clear to anyone ignorant of facts? Is it not a given that even though it is called the Warsaw Ghetto, it was run by Germans?

Sorry fellow readers, I probably should have picked a better debater for my replies.. My bad.

ohh yes GB because Mitt Romney definitely wants to help the little guy out! i hope you don't vote. Just from your comments I bet I know something about you... you are a fat white republican racist idiot who feasts off of Bill O'Reily's media spins and accepts them as fact. I would take the community organizer anytime over a mormon crook like Romney-- how stupid are you that you do not see what his plan is-- rich @!$%#s like him only think about themselves and those close to them-- he will destroy the country and bring it back to the Bush like era where the RICHES TRICKLE DOWN TO THE MIDDLE CLASS LIKE A CASCADING WATERFALL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH PLEASE SHUT UP AND FOR GODS SAKE SIT THIS ELECTION OUT

he will destroy the country and bring it back to the Bush like era

YES!!! I do miss those days of 5% unemployment and sub-$2/gal gas!!!!!

I love Obama apologists.

So, what did Obama mean when he said "Marine Corpse"?

Was that 'lost in translation' too?

How about Obama talking about the "Austrian language"?

I'm not going to review anyone's entire life looking for speaking errors. After all, Bush spoke like a mule would if one could speak. But I will stick to this topic. Where are the Warsaw Ghettos? And is it not appropriate for me to say that without calling it German?

TFNJ: Okay, I'll play... remember all that hoopla about GITMO?

I don't understand why anyone would have been upset about W opening it and O failing to close it... because according to you it's a CUBAN prison!

To say Polish Death Camps is specific. You can't just say Cuban prison, since they obviously have their own. But if you say Cuban Terrorist Prison Camp I think everyone will know exactly what that is and who runs it. While a Cuban may look at that and be scorned that it implies ownership, they could also conclude that everyone knows the truth. For the Poles to defend that point 70+ years later leaves a lot of questions open. Who would be under the impression that it was run by the Polish?

TFNJ: According to you, it's in Cuba, so it's Cuban. Just like Americans are to blame for "all the Catholic pedophilia": it happened in America! And the Japanese really shouldn't have nuked themselves during WW2. Likewise, New Jersey destroyed the Hindenburg. (Hopefully, you see what I'm getting at here.)

Who? I'd say the people saying that it WAS run by the Polish on this thread is a good place to start...

I do understand what you are saying, that naming the country, Polish, Cuban, etc, implies ownership. But what I'm saying is that there are certain events or places in the world that are such common knowledge that we have come to a point where we don't need to be so specific. If I read "Polish death camp" without anything else said, I immediately know what that means, where that is, who ran it, what happened there. Its common knowledge. The fact that he didn't spell out "Nazi death camp located in Poland" should not be an issue. It is silly to call someone ignorant for not being that specific.

I don't know wth your problem is Steven-but Austrians speak their own language.

my2fish: Yes, and that language is... German.

Oberdeutsch ("High German") is a dialect with several sub-dialects such as Wienerisch in Vienna, Mocheno in Italy or Münchnerisch in Munich. While it is distinct from (say) Yiddish or Luxemburgisch (or one of the other Middle German dialects), it isn't a different language. They understand each other, though mileage may vary -- similar to a Los Angeleno speaking with a Bostonian.

Thank you Mark-I guess that is only a 'joke' Germans would understand.I am from Germany-born and bread there-I speak high German. And no,they do not all understand each other.My husbands family is Austrian and the dozens of variations of German between the North See and Austrian Alps might as well all be foreign languages-they are neither the exact same nor are there interchangeable.Kinda like British,Aussie and American variations of English.

To describe with such exacting terminology at this long past moment in time is perhaps requesting a level of perfection that is unreasonable.

Wow.

The lengths people will go to in order to defend Obama... "It happened SOOOO long ago, before SOOOOO many people were born, therefore it's OK to offend an entire nation with lack of clarity."

Sad.

see below, this outrage is completely feigned (you can look it up if you don't know what it means). the camps were located in Poland, but due to the virulent anti-semitism of the Poles, yes, the everyday people, they might as well have been Polish. maybe YOU ought to read some history books. you are probably a birther.

The only americans that would mistake what the President was saying are the Palinites, or american's whose first language is not english. For the polish who didn't understand, it was a reference to the location of the camp.

but due to the virulent anti-semitism of the Poles, yes, the everyday people, they might as well have been Polish.

I know, because virulent anti-semitism and the actual murdering of millions of people "might as well" be the same thing, right?

Do people even think before they post such stupidity? Apparently not.

I know, right? Simply not liking someone and genocide are practically the same thing, huh?

There really are some disingenuous and pathetic defenses to Obama's idiocy around here.

A testament to their will and patriotism.

It's more of a testament to their ability to squirt out kids faster than their enemies could grind them into sausage.

So you're basically saying that Obama's choice of words was correct? No wonder the Polish people are outraged. People here in the US actually do believe the Polish ran these camps. Apparently you do.

You don't know much about Polish history do you? Do you know why so many Jewish people were living in Poland in the first place?

Yes and that future interpretation exactly what this hoopla is about.

The phrase "Polish death camp" can be misread as to mean that the Polish people were running the camp. This is not the way it should read. All of Europe had countrymen on both sides so yes there were many Polish Nazi sympathizers, but as a nation, they were opposed to having been occupied by a HUGE militarist force. While occupied, many citizens were handed over to the Nazi occupiers. In most cases there was simply no choice. Poland was always considered occupied and had an underground government invested with the Allied forces.

if that is true, what is your excuse? oh, maybe you are just are just mean-spirited and hateful as a rule. what a bad character you have. get a life.

see below, about the analogy between Poland and Serbia. Dont' defend the Poles. During the Second World War, they could care less about their Jewish citizens; not any more than the German people did. don't make excuses for them. read history, real history, not propaganda. wonder what it is like to be a German today and have to live with that legacy? well guess what, they are not the only ones. if what you say is true, there would be many more Jews alive in Poland today, but the sad truth is, there are not

SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE THE ONE IN NEED OF A HISTORY LESSON. How do you think the war even started?? you have no idea what the Polish people endured during the war-- Pollacks would tear you to pieces over these ignorant comments and i hope they do one day --- I love how internet anonymity brings the douche out in people like you, who I bet are cowards in the real world

Never2Late-2007526 - You are clueless about European history and WWII. But ignorance is bliss for some people. Poland had the largest Jewish population in the world because Poland granted more freedoms to Jews than any other nation. Jews were in the government, the military and successful in commerce. They were interwoven into the culture with positions of respectibility, unlike many other nations. All nations have people with prejudices, but as the Wall Stree Journal once reported ....... scratch a Pole and you often find Jewish blood.