Please let this be the most stupid thing I read today.

Are you f*cking kidding me? Ok. I say let the families of his victims in to "play" with him. I am sure no one will object.

So in Norway not only can you go on a killing rampage...of kids no less, but they will find you friends for your stay in prison??? Wow....I don't understand why he is still living.

i like to see him play a game of... russian roulette with a fully loaded revolver...

The most absurd things I've heard in quite awhile. So now this guy deserves play mates to keep him entertained with chess and hockey. How about they play hockey with his head as the puck? How about chess with his back as the board and chess pieces made of iron hot out of a foundry kiln?

All I can say is "good luck" to the people of Norway, and to the people to volunteer to be his friend. He's liable to eat their face off just like that guy whacked out on bath salts in Florida.

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the 20 year prison sentence for killing 77 people!

hell...you can be responsible for the deaths of thousand of people here...then they let you go back home to texas...mission accomplished...

Norway is Crazy..... Why is this Idiot still Alive???????

Oh plain...can't help yourself can ya? How about the man sitting in DC now? Mentioning him? How about good old B.C.? Nope...just your narrow mindedness showing through again.

The question is how much are they willing to pay.

You must be talking about Saddam Hussein who had a death toll of around 300,000. He's dead now, no worries Bob!

Churchmoose - but didn't you read it says AT LEAST 21 years in prison. Doesn't that make it better? 77 people lives are lost and he's going to get at least 21 years plus playmates. This is the biggest joke I've ever heard....unduly cruel to keep someone in isolation for extended periods of time. He KILLED 77 people, please Norway have some common sense and give him the green needle and call it a day. Better yet, we'll let you borrow our electric chair I think that will be more appropriate. Oh and he should be in isolation all the way up to his execution date, that should seem fair for his crime. Almost but not completely.

What does that mean? Christian what? I am a Christian so what do you mean by that comment?

I think he mixed his kool-aid up. I can understand "christian" kool-aid as being "just drink it (believe what I say) and don't ask questions" thats valid. I think he was refering to the Jim Jones type kool-aid.

Let him spend his time sitting alone in a cell. The only problem with that is that he is so without humanity he would enjoy being alone with his memories.

Well...we can full well see the results of runaway "liberalism" in how they treat criminals in Norway. Maybe we could learn something from them to bring here to America? Playmates with play dates for all prisoners. The thought of actually "paying someone" to be his playmate. I wonder what the job pays? Could someone actually earn a decent living by "playing" with psychopathic murderers? I'll have to look into that. A whole new cottage industry for our underemployed times. And of course all on the backs of the TAXPAYERS since the prison industry is nothing but a money pit.

How "quaint".

Let's see Monday we can play Chess. Tuesday we can get our manicure/pedicure. Wednesday we can golf. Thursday we can go swimming at the YMCA. Friday we can play basketball. Saturday we can watch cartoons. Sunday we can play "touch football".

Sounds like a lovely week to me.

I think you completely misunderstand here, there are thousands in Norway who hates Muslims and are against any emigrants, like millions here, so he to some of them did the right thing--like Bush in Iraq!

(how many is it we shoot in Arizona every year?)

Same in many other EU countries, they are about the same as KKK and Hitler types--have you ever been to the Midwest here? get a grip will you! and stop being a bunch of hippocrates!

We can learn a lot from Norway, all of it bad.

@ Bundgaard - your ignorance is showing. We don't shoot anyone in Arizona, or anywhere else in the "Midwest", as a "regular" sort of thing to do.

You obviously have no clue about what it is you think you know.

Love your grammar/spelling too.

Bundgaard -

Do you think it is possible to be for immigration but against illegal immigration? You sound deluded and OMG, I'm going to use it... ignorant. Also, to be concerned about certain segments of Islam is not tantamount to hating Muslims; given recent history I'd be more apt to describe it as common sense. This guy deserves death for his crimes. Killing kids at camp is not the same as going to war and destroying a rogue regime (Hussein... not ours) proven to have used weapons of mass destruction on their own people (the Kurds). Sure, you can twist reality to fit to whatever agenda you subscribe, you can mold your own history to conform to whatever hatred you harbor. However, any thinking individual can look at your post and recognize it for BS. You cry about hate while simultaneously fanning the flames. You disparage an entire region of our country as though all within that bubble are evil while those outside of it are the definition of altruism and justice. I can sit here and dissect the flaws in your logic all day but I do not believe that there is anything I can say or do to rouse you from your own prejudices... from your self-wrought illusions of moral superiority. You are consigned to an ignorance from which it seems there is no escape. Get a grip! Stop being a hypocrite... or a hippo crate... whatever version you fancy.

Awww ....everybody needs a friend...

While you are at it, find him a lover too ...All the taxpayer's expense....

Idiots !!!

Actually, Bundgaard, there may be some in Norway who are opposed to Muslims but I doubt they also think what he did was "the right thing", as you say. He did not kill Muslim soldiers. He killed children, and not Muslim children by the way. He randomly killed innocent children at a youth camp. So, I think you won't find many in Norway he feel he did "the right thing".

Well Said JQ....

hell...you can be responsible for the deaths of thousand of people here...then they let you go back home to texas...mission accomplished...

Really? What in the hell does your ridiculous comment have to do with the topic at hand?

Well...we can full well see the results of runaway "liberalism" in how they treat criminals in Norway. Maybe we could learn something from them to bring here to America?

I know this was meant to be sarcastic, but as Norway's recidivism rates are lower than the US then, yes, maybe we could.

Well said Rob! The person (Montag) who you quoted had the nerve to make a post on here stating that the Norway murders were worse than the Timothy McVeigh murders which ended in 168 deaths of infants as well as adults in one day Montag stating that the reason the Norway murders were worse is because of "red flag" events and that McVeigh had help with the murders! I say murder is murder and if I had to die I would much rather be shot out in the open with objects around to hide behind than be in a concrete building that has been bombed! Seriously though Montag is a troll and enjoys her job as a troll.

How about golf? I'll bet there are plenty of parents who would be willing to put him in a foursome with Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy.

In our own country killers and rapists and thieves are treated pretty much the same, you ever see a super max prison cell? Keep in mind these are people deemed too dangerous to be around other dangerous criminals and they have every video game system and TV and toy they can get. Its no different really in Norway. I suppose its progressive to treat these people humanely, just because they behaved like animals doesnt mean we as a people should behave like animals. It may speak pretty loudly about our culture and our country, in that we dont try and treat any one no matter whatin a manner that we ourselves wouldnt want to be treated. I dunno, personally I think if your capable of murdering a whole lot of people then you should just be taken out back and shot in the head, in his instance this was not a crime of passion, he didnt in the spurr of the moment kill one or two people because he was out of his head with rage or jealousy or envy or some sort of deal where he lost control. This is a person that was willing to inflict massive carnage and planned the whole thing knowing full well what he was doing while completely in his right mind while doing it. That is a person that tax payers should never have to foot the bill for, this is a broken person that could never be fixed and letting him live off tax payer dollars in a prison cell is not the way to treat that. I think there are different classes of murder that are worthy of reflection by the general public, but in a case like that there should be no mercy just punishment. A person like that will NEVER be reformed and therefor there is no reason to keep him living off of tax dollars for any length of time.

Well put. They say prison doesn't work as a deterrent in America, maybe that's because its too easy. The constitution protects us from cruel and unusual punishment, not cruel or unusual punishment. There is nothing wrong with making prison a place no one would want to go, as long as the methods used are widespread around American prisons. That way no matter how cruel it seems to be, it will be the usual punishment. Just my thoughts.

the Norweigan justice system deserves absolutely no respect from anyone in the world. This guy massacres over 70 innocents and they are treating him like a king.

Agreed. What I find equally revolting is that OUR OWN justice system is going the same way - down the krapper.

Every game system and every toy out there? American prison being easy? Seriously you folks have no idea what you are talking about.

There is a reason why the average life expectancy in American prison is decades shorter than outside, why 1 in 10 prisoners have been raped, why suicide rates are sky high. Most of you marshmellows would be TOAST in a supermax. You are fooling yourself to think otherwise.

i think i would go play a lil chess with that man hmm u send a plane ticket ill be there with him in chains lol

AGAIN, their recidivism rate is lower then in the US. That's a GOOD thing and does deserve respect from you.

Dang that is all that he had gotten? I never did see what the outcome was. They need to hire people to be his friends? He should have gotten alot longer than 21 years. That would be like a slap in the face to the families of the deceased.

21 years is the maximum he can get in Norway.

There is no comparison between their system and ours. At least we have the option of putting someone away for life. Norwegians don't believe in that. He killed 77 people. So according to Norwegian law, the lives of each victim are worth approximately 3 months. Now, they want to find him playmates.

In a word ... ridiculous.

His sentence can be extended at the end of 21 years.

They should send him to one of our high security prisons. I'm sure he'd find lots of "playmates" there. Then again, he'd probably end up a hero to some of our neo-Nazi prison gangs...

the only insame person here is the govt!!!!!

Where are all the white racist at?

Where are all the crime statistic's?

Wow, a killer who gunned down 70 people he's not even a "thug" Its so funny.

He's as well mannered as they come. He'd walk down the street and none of you would give him a second thought about being a nice guy who'd never shoot anyone.

He's from one of the worlds "greatest" countries.

Pathetic.

You are racist! How is this about white ppl in the US????

You are racist!

No I'm not.

How is this about white ppl in the US????

I didn't say the US you did.

You think racist only exist in America for some reason, you need more schooling...you may also be a re-reg.

I'll try not to feed you.

Yes, this is the hell of it. There will be hundreds of people signing up to be this guy's friend. He'll probably get marriage offers.

Before slamming the Norwegians even more consider that some of these people will undoubtedly be American.

Actually, there are alot of people in the US prison system who would "play" with him.

They could play "soap on a rope".

Well there are still a lot of Muslims and foreigners left there, so he and many others could continue the hunting!-You would be suprised of how many people I have known for a life time in EU and here who would do the same!-I personally have dropped all of them as friends, I do not understsand why we still have to kill for religions!

Good come back!

Norwegians think we are barbaric. They believe that it is us who need to change our laws.

Back in the day they'd simply smash his head in with a hammer.

---But it is more civil if we sit behind a computer and use a drone with bombs!?

Add to that list: Ted Bundy, Gary Ridgway, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Ramirez.

who's that guy in texas who is responsible for the deaths of many brave soles...but no one even mentions...

oh plain...twice, and I haven't even gotten down to the bottom of the page. And you state that "no one even mentions", but you tend to leave some people out of your own statement. How about Obama, Clinton, all the government officials who voted for the war, etc? But no, that doesn't fit in with your view. You are incapable of reading a post about a killer in a foriegn country and leaving domestic politics and your own bigotry out of it. After reading your uninformed posts, I have a suggestion on who could be his friend...bob, are you volunteering? I would pay your way!

He killed 77 people and just needs to be executed for that. There is NO amount of Rehab that will fix that. A 21 year sentence for murdering 77 people, most of them children is NOT OK.

you are so full of it

you cannot reintroduce a inhuman murderers to society

it will never work

maybe low crime idiots who steal

but we are talking a murderer of children

only one good thing comes from these slime and that be fertilizer

no brains in this thought

nothing in the world will change this animals behavior

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

only one place for inhuman murderers

and that be 6 feet under da dirt for da devil

yeesh what a boob to bring it up even

wait what am i thinking

if they let this idiot out it can live with you

and or the idiots who put their law for murderers in affect

but that wont happen

no way possible

eh?

but dont be anything it doesnt want you to be

and do you have kids?

probably not with that retort

and think about what you wrote saying we are the idiots?

you must be its new buddy lol

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

ya im the idiot

i really dont remember going out to kill children because of what i want in life

very selfish to even concider lol

Typical response from some half-educated MSNBC troll...I can't take you that seriously.

Oh well, people who think like you are exactly why America will never have a less than 20% recidivism rate. As I said, nobody in this country cares about anything other than getting revenge. Oops, I mean "justice." Let me ask you if you're such an expert, have you ever studied psychopathology, criminal justice, sociology, etc? And by studied I mean, got more than a Bachelor's degree in the field and actually have experience working in it? I doubt that because if you did, you would have a different opinion on the subject.

Note that I never said this particular man should be reintroduced into society, but again those who don't understand completely jump to conclusions. Some people are better fit for a lifetime in psychiatric wards, and those who pose an imminent threat to society should be locked up. What I DID say (and what you failed to grasp) is that Norway has such a success rate because they care about the humanity of the prisoners - throwing somebody into a cell for 23 hours of isolation a day will only breed more anger, more mental instability and more danger. Studies prove it. You treat someone like an animal, they behave like an animal. Such things are too progressive for American society to get right now because everybody is so focused on punishment, which does nothing.

So in your opinion it is fine for this piece of human waste to only serve 20 years as long as he does not kill again. If you take this type of garbage out in a court yard and hang them, as they deserve, the recidivism rate would become 0. Can not beat that.

He killed 77 people. Obviously, he didn't give a rat's azz about their human rights.

There are exceptions to every rule and in this case it is foolish to have any other exception to punishment other than the death penalty.

Society has a right to protect itself. Despite the frequent mistakes when someone not guilty is executed, the primary value of the death penalty is that when you have someone whose attitude is anti-human, the death penalty insures that person will not kill again.

Breivik is definitely anti-human and does not deserve to continue to live.

Oh good Lord people...yes OBVIOUSLY he didn't care about the lives or rights of his victims. Why does that mean that a supposedly civilized, organized judicial system should be the same way?

And James, for the third time, I did not say he should be released back into society after 20 years. I clearly stated there are some people who will remain dangers to society and should be kept away for the rest of their lives. HOWEVER, I do not agree with treating prisoners like animals, keeping them in isolation, etc, because all it does is breed MORE criminal activity.

Can anybody here read today?

I find it a little shocking and sad that people are actually angry about civilized treatment of other people but, as I said before, most Americans aren't progressive minded enough to appreciate that our methods just don't work. We have one of the most f*cked up prison systems in the world, with ridiculously high incarceration rates and recidivism rates, while Norway has much less.. but according to all the brilliant minds in the MSNBC comments section, we do things the right way? Laughable.

What they are doing is clearly working??? And they wont re-offend because they care about human rights?? He didnt seem to give a damn about human rights when he killed 77 people. Seriously........The article states solitary is unduly cruel....what about the families of the 77 dead.....He should have recieved 21 years PER PERSON. I dont think our system works for most either, but how does Norway justify 21 years for this monster???? He lost his privilege to have rights!

amy, please don't call people idiots because they can't understand a slayer of 77 people is getting such a light punishment. by starting out with name calling, you make yourself look silly and someone who will not be taken seriously, nor should you be. they might have a better system, overall, but someone like that does not deserve "friends", nor does he deserve the chance to ever be free. you really did make yourself look foolish, which is too bad, because you pointed out something interesting which most will not pay attention to now.

Amylee827: Are you volunteering? Given your views on the matter I think you'd be a great playmate for him. Tell you what: If you'll volunteer, I'll pay your airfare to get there. What the heck, it will only be one-way fare and it will be worth it to be rid of one more bleeding heart, ACLU-loving, society-blaming, "progressive" (God, how I hate that word).

AmyLee827

If you want a joke of a prison system, just look at our country. Norway doesn't need to change a thing - what they're doing is clearly working for their country.

The family members of the 77 people he killed may beg to differ.

Amy, you are perfectly right. Unfortunately, due to this current issue, people here are only going to compredend an iota of what you are saying.

The average person's field of view is about 2 degrees wide.

AmyLee...so I take it that you would voluntarily move you and everyone in yoru family next door to this guy when he gets out, right? You would have no hesitation allowing children in your family near him, correct? Feel good about him walking through a park where you are enjoying yoru day? How about a local summer camp out enjoying a game of soccer?

I always like reading from people who are as "educated and humane" as you obviously are. But I can safely assume you would NOT like any of the above to happen near you or your families. And therefore, I can not believe you actually believe in what you preach.

This man shot 77 people to death..picking them off one by one like he was playing a video game. He is quite obviously a sociopath and they can never be rehabilitated. This man remains an eternal threat to everyone around him and there is only one way to make sure he never harms society again. Twenty one years of recreation and making new friends and you defend that system.

77 people shot to death one by one while this man calmly took aim and fired. I can see how their system works quite well from here. Thanks but no thanks.

AmyLee...so I take it that you would voluntarily move you and everyone in yoru family next door to this guy when he gets out, right?

This is why she called you idiots. Because, despite clarifying herself a couple of times already, you STILL DON'T GET THAT SHE NEVER SAID HE SHOULD EVER BE RELEASED.

This is also (partly) why society is going down the crapper. Because you people are so insistent on disagreeing with someone that you can't take the time to read and fully comprehend what they're actually saying. You're just more interested in arguing against someone who has any (slightly) differing view.

This man shot 77 people to death..picking them off one by one like he was playing a video game. He is quite obviously a sociopath and they can never be rehabilitated. This man remains an eternal threat to everyone around him and there is only one way to make sure he never harms society again. Twenty one years of recreation and making new friends and you defend that system.

The facts show it works better than the system in the US. This is in general. Obviously there are cases where it won't work, but you don't change a whole system that is working just because of that. That would be idiotic.

There's no need to 'defend' anything, I can just point at the facts and say that you're the one who is wrong.

Jetjoky: It is always like that with you "progrssives". Anybody that doesn't agree with you is just simply too ignorant to understand the lofty principles you are promoting for all of us which are for our own good. That's pretty much how Norway became Norway. IE: A wildly out of control exmple of "progressive" group-think.

Geez I'm glad we are not all as smart as you.

I agree with Amylee. One of the reasons Norway has such great recividism is becauase they have one law and they are consistant with that law as well. As far as the question from the penut gallery who asked would she move next door. I would move there in a heartbeat. I wouldn't want to live next door to him but I'd live in the same country as him because I know I'd still be safer in Norway than if I live in the safest place (sarcasim) known in the US. Its a no brainer!

In that case, what's keeping you here? Go to the land of no brains.

The best way to keep him from re offending is to either keep him in prison for the rest of his life or hang the POS to shorten his life. 21 years for killing 77 people, really? This person should never see the light of day again.

I agree with you. But that's not what they did - and he is going to be released in 21 years unless he is tried again* and given a longer sentence. I wish I knew why he was only given 21 years (maybe there was mitigating circumstances or maybe it was really just a slap on the wrist) but I couldn't tell you, I wasn't there.

* As far as I know Norway has no double Jeopardy laws.

Julia ..... the best way to keep him from "reoffending" is to shoot the bastard. What the hell kind of mitigating circumstances can there be when you kill 77 people in one day? This guy is a waste. Every breath he takes is oxygen that could be used by someone else.

That's hardly fair. He's already saved us at least 77 times that amount of oxygen. As atmospheric gases go, this has been a net gain for us.

damn europeans!!

And HERE Norway is how your system is failing you. You've gone too far.