Assad: Syria faces 'real war waged from the outside'

Thirteen men were shot dead at close range in Syria. Activists claim the killers were government militia. The government blames the rebels. NBC's John Ray reports. Some of the images in this report may be disturbing.

Syrian President Bashar Assad has said that his country is engaged in a "real war" with outside forces and denied any role in the Houla massacre, which he said was carried by “monsters.”

In his first public address since January, he warned he would not be lenient on those he blamed for violence in the country, and promised that a 15-month-old crisis would end soon if Syrians pulled together.


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An image grab taken from Syrian state TV shows Syrian President Bashar al-Assad addressing the parliament in Damascus on Sunday.

In a speech to parliament, he repeated many of his earlier pledges to maintain a crackdown on opponents he describes as terrorists implementing a foreign conspiracy, while offering dialogue with those opposition figures who have avoided armed conflict or outside backing.

He made his comments a day after international envoy Kofi Annan said the specter of all-out civil war was growing daily in Syria and the world needed to see actions, not words, from Assad.

Jim Muir, the BBC correspondent in Beirut, said: “Anybody hoping that President Assad's first public speech since January might open up some lines of advance towards a solution will have been disappointed.”

In his hour-long address, Assad offered no specific response to Annan's plea for bold steps to end the conflict.

Thousands of people have been killed in a crackdown on protests against Assad, which erupted in March last year and have become increasingly militarized, destabilizing neighboring Lebanon and raising fears of regional turmoil.

"This crisis is not an internal crisis. It is an outside war carried out by inside elements," Assad said, looking relaxed as he spoke to parliamentarians. "If we work together, I confirm that the end to this situation is near."

'True monstrosities'
Last month's massacre in Houla of 108 people, mostly women and children, triggered global outrage and warnings that Syria's relentless bloodshed - undimmed by Annan's April 12 ceasefire deal - could engulf the Middle East.

Sunni Muslim powers, particularly wealthy Gulf Arab states, have strongly supported the uprising against Assad, an Alawite closely allied with Shi'ite Iran and Hezbollah.

Western powers have accused Syrian armed forces and pro-Assad militia of responsibility for the May 25 Houla killing, a charge Damascus has denied.

Despite the discovery of another atrocity following the recent massacre in Huola, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad showed no sign of relinquishing his power. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

"What happened in Houla...and what we described as ugly and abominable massacres, or true monstrosities - even monsters do not perpetrate what we have seen," Assad said.

He said his country was facing a war waged from outside and that terrorism was escalating despite political steps including last month's election for parliament, whose new members Assad was addressing.

"We are not facing a political problem because if we were this party would put forth a political programme. What we are facing is (an attempt) to sow sectarian strife and the tool of this is terrorism," Assad said.

"The issue is terrorism. We are facing a real war waged from the outside," Assad said.

Annan, the joint United Nations and Arab League envoy for Syria, told an Arab League meeting in Qatar on Saturday that Assad must make "bold and visible" steps immediately to change his military stance and honor his commitment to cease all violence.

Annan criticized Assad for failing to comply with a peace plan to end the conflict and said his forces were carrying out atrocities, arbitrary arrests and other abuses.

The United Nations says Syrian forces have killed more than 9,000 people in a crackdown on protests against Assad. Syria blames the violence on foreign-backed Islamist militants it says have killed more than 2,600 soldiers and security force members.

Anybody hoping that President Assad's first public speech since January might open up some lines of advance towards a solution will have been disappointed.

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what a bunch of bs....I like how the Syrian and iranian government is straight up shelling innocent people over in homs and damascus , syria, yet the dictator's assad apologists are still trying to justify using artillery on syrian women and children. - disgusting

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#1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 8:35 AM EDT

The only monster here is Assad himself! Talk is easy, you can say anything you want. It is your actions that matter. Assad's actions speak loudly.

Iran was verbally upset when Saudi Arabia was backing Bahrain (a Sunni monarchy over Shiite minority), while verbally approving a Shiite dictator's brutality over a Sunni majority in Syria.

It is unfortunate Russia and China will not let the UN interfere. Russia does not want to lose a very strong middle east ally. China does not want oil prices and trade to falter. ( China learned real well from America's capitalism)

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#1.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

Assad is right on this one - give the guy credit. Yes, he's a scumbag, but he's RIGHT.

Syria IS facing a war waged from outside forces. Namely, from CHINA, IRAN and RUSSIA, who ALL have troops over there and are BACKING him! There are also Al Quaeda forces from neighboring countries that have joined the fray.

And the dimwits in Washington want us to get involved in this?????!!!!!!!!!

Let's send their kids over there first. To the front lines. And yes, that goes for their DAUGHTERS as well as their sons.

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#1.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:34 AM EDT

@HOTTICKET-23O4234

Al-Qaeda is being funded by the United States gov't in Syria just like Libya. If you think I'm a crackpot then why don't you look up what former C.I.A. intellagence officer Michael Scheuer says. CNN also has been caught faking news over this situation because this is nothing more then war properganda that is being pushed in the media by the pentagon.

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#1.3 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

this is something all countries need to step back from, and let assad run his own ship. we do enough influencing if you ask me, not to mention the other 6 nosey's. or is it 7 now? anyway, i wouldnt doubt if AQ is in someway involved, as seems the case in Libya, Yemen and so on. we all let the media turn our heads at the innocent slaughter from the "freedom fighters" of Libya... turn our own heads now, let other countries, handle their own mess.

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#1.4 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

HEEEEY, ... it was NOTTTTTT artillery that TIED those peoples HANDS behind their backs !!!!

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#1.5 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:56 AM EDT

"This crisis is not an internal crisis. It is an outside war carried out by inside elements," Assad said, looking relaxed as he spoke to parliamentarians. "If we work together, I confirm that the end to this situation is near."

The crisis will end after he kills anyone that opposes him...he wasn't kidding about the inside elements...

Problem is, whoever replaces him will be just as evil! Look at Egypt!

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#1.6 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

Assad is so egomaniacally evvvvviiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllll. Where's mini me????????????? Oh so evil.

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#1.7 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

I look forward to seeing a bloody dead Assad on TV just like the kook from Lybia and Saddam.........It will happen soon as his days are numbered.

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#1.8 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

Assad might be evil but the people that are directing this uprising are worse than him. Don't you people notice the disproportionate number of children that are being killed? This is a war directed by outside forces. Probably the same forces that are destroying the US.

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#1.9 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

Assad doesn't yet know what a real war from outside would look like. He has yet to find that out.

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#1.10 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

Shiites, Assad and world should understand that most of the problems in ME like Iraqi wars, oil price manipulations, manifold growth of Sunni Islamic extremism like Salaffi, Wahhabi and terrorist problems are invented by the barbaric, beastly and bigoted Sunni Saudi ruler with 5000 princes and princess, Kuwaiti and others.

They use their agents like oil companies, lobbyists and sometimes Jewish lobbys to do their dirty work for them.

When economic situations are in a mess, who will put sanctions on Iranian oil?

WMDs in Iran are a hoax just like Saudi and their agents hoax of WMDs in Iraq.

All Shiites should join hands, buy or steal Paki nukes and blow up fountainheads of world problems starting from that bigoted seventh century desert mindset Saudi Arabia first.

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#1.11 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

Is it wrong that I wish someone would kill this SOB (son of a bastard...namely his father who was just as bad!)?

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#1.12 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

How many people are murdered here in America every week?

How about answering what's wrong with America!

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#1.13 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

If killing is so easy, I wish all the barbaric and beastly Sunni rulers starting from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and others are killed/blown to pieces.

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#1.14 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

Hmm,

Which is worse?

5000 princes and princesses?

Or.

5000 mullahs?

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#1.15 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

the killing of children, is a attempt to get the world behind the Islamic movement to oust Assad; he is a dictator, he is also anti-Islamic fundamentalist; n the rebels want Syria to be a Islamic republic, then they have Israel cornered on both sides, Egypt will elect a Muslim brotherhood government, who has taken a oath to declare war on Israel and the west.

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#1.16 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

Actually we have been suppying weapons to the syrian rebels for over 8 months now at first it might sound like the proper thing to do but it has created 3 different fractions that have 3 different radical views on whats the best for syria. Now they are struggling for supremecy between the groups of who has right plan with daily 1 upmanship of who has more power, end result is the lives of many syrian's as collateral damage. The syrian army is citizen's with at least some chain of command and discipline. the rebel groups however have no remorse and have no consequences for their actions if not rewarded by their caliph. Removing essad at this point will have no effect on syria as the next will be no different if not more turmoil, if he was removed before arming everyone to the teeth there might of been some hope.

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#1.17 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

Jimmy the bleak,

"The syrian army is citizen's with at least some chain of command and discipline. the rebel groups however have no remorse and have no consequences for their actions if not rewarded by their caliph."

I think you are right about the fragmentation of the opposition and its lack of leadership. The only thing I have a problem with is the remark that the rebel groups have no remorse. Are you implying that Assad's army does have remorse for what it has done? I don't think so. Also, where did you get the information that we are supplying arms to the opposition? The Obama Administration denies that and says it would be a bad idea to do so.

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#1.18 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

Actually, I believe Syria, Iran, Libya, Iraq, and three other oil rich countries are the seven countries Cheney/Bush wanted to make sure they fell, to control their oil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnY_yXVrWiU&feature=related

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#1.19 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:15 AM EDT

As part of austerity measure, first wind up all corrupt, partisan and useless UN and its agencies!

Look at that Kofi Annan!

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#1.20 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

If the 3 factions are waring that's not ok? You can take this to the bank though. Let an outside force go there with weapons blazing at 1 faction and all 3 will join forces to expel the invader. they will take a day off and than go back at one another again like nothing ever happened. The only thing they have a mind set on is killing.

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#1.21 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

Obviously he wants to cling to power much longer raking more money than being a dentist. There are also other element to consider that his inner circle adviser duped him on the actual acitvities and casualities being carried out by his cohorts and cliques. His downfall is imminent, not soon but is in the horizon. him and his cohorts are fighting to plunder Syria and extract his fortune out of the country first so when is time to flee they are stil will live comfortablyl well off. Russia and Iran are the 2 countries that will take him and his cohorts when his rule ends. The opposition need to make his armed forces spread out all around Syria and wear them out doing hit and run style tactic. Whoever replace Assad will have alot of work to do . Middle east does not know what real democracy is, religion does not create jobs it creates mayhem as uneducated ( i say uneducated because all they know is rote memorization of their koran front to back, back to front not knowing world history, math and or science) clerics/imams wants 7th century laws to be imposed. Look at the hamas in Gaza still in dire povertyno improvement, hamas do not allow any opposition to surface, Iran with the clerics. Think of it as frogs in a deep well, once roamed free in a meadow wants all frogs in the meadow to behave like frogs in a deepwell and use violence to make all toe in line. democracy islam style

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#1.22 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

Wizkidoo, THAT wouldn't suprise me in the least. There's not a single thing in your post that I would doubt.

Jonathan is correct - get us OUT of the U.N.!!!!!

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#1.23 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

Assad in th picture is looking worn out, just like Ghadaffi of Libya did before he was killed.

It doesn't look like much longer before this 2nd Hitler is going to meet his demise---hopefully tortured and pulled apart like Ghaddafi---

Even a Dictator can run so far---now Lebanon is in the fight--

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#1.24 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

The problem with President Assad's comments to Parliment is:

1) They can't be believed.

2) They can't be verified by independent media coverage.

Even if President Assad is right, history will put him on the same level as Suddam Husein of Irag, Muramar Kudahfi of Libya, and Idi Amin of Uganda. He should quit while he's ahead and before his image gets worse.

    #1.25 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

    Assad: Syria faces 'real war waged from the outside'

    Maybe from outside his palace.

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    #1.26 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

    What you see in news and on tv is what the government wants you to see....there is a covert war going on that we will be apprised of only when it makes our government look good (political reasons)....read your history, go back 50 yrs to s.e. asia...(vietnam) for all you x and y generations....we were involved in this same kind of crap in the 50's....Watch "fog of war" interview with Mcnamara...History repeats itself over and over again....this issue with syria is only in the birth stages, it will grow fast and violent...remember, "if you can keep your head, while those around you lose theirs, you will survive."

    Love my country, fear my government.

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    #1.27 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

    its hard to believe Assad but nowadays it is also hard to believe everything the media says. it is sad to see that in the 21 century and we still kill each other for political power. The world has become too small for this crap. can't people be happy without being greedy?

    those times in which the leaders can get away with anything ARE GONE, ITS HISTORY ........we all know the end to this story, Assad getting executed, but why more innocent people dying??

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    #1.28 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

    Cite your hard evidence that Assad is responsible.

    This is starting to look more like Libya every day.

    The west picked one side of a civil war and jumped in.

    Then Obama committed an illegal and unprovoked attack on another nation, Libya.

    If that happens again, there will be 200, 000 of us in front of the white house calling for his impeachment.

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    #1.29 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

    No money, no aide. Let the Arabs deal with the Arabs they hate us anyway.

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    #1.30 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

    Finally someone with some common sense. All the post that are calling for Assads death should think hard before asking for that. None of us are there to see what is happening and we have no clue as to who is responsible. Maybe the US is involved maybe China, Russia, or even some other European country. If we were having a revolution, I sure hope other counties would stay out and let us handle it. To much intervention on the part on other nations, ours included. Let Assad run his country and time will tell if and when he needs to be removed.

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    #1.31 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

    JACKSON,

    "If we were having a revolution, I sure hope other counties would stay out and let us handle it."

    Do you really mean to tell me that if the U.S. Army was shelling your hometown with artillery and killing women and children indiscriminately, you would want the rest of the world to just mind their own business? Pardon me if I am skeptical of that.

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    #1.32 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

    Hey Anthony, I was waitin fuh da punch line!

      #1.33 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

      maliheh - what a bunch of bs....I like how the Syrian and iranian government is straight up shelling innocent people over in homs and damascus , syria, yet the dictator's assad apologists are still trying to justify using artillery on syrian women and children. - disgusting

      Eric- NY - Iran was verbally upset when Saudi Arabia was backing Bahrain (a Sunni monarchy over Shiite minority), while verbally approving a Shiite dictator's brutality over a Sunni majority in Syria.

      You do realize that the Moderate Modern Islamic Sunnis Bathists and the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran are on opposite sides in the Centuries Old Moderate Modern Islamic Sunnis versus Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Shiites).

      HOTTICKET-2304234 - Assad is right on this one - give the guy credit. Yes, he's a scumbag, but he's RIGHT.

      Syria IS facing a war waged from outside forces. Namely, from CHINA, IRAN and RUSSIA, who ALL have troops over there and are BACKING him! There are also Al Quaeda forces from neighboring countries that have joined the fray.

      For once HOTTICKET-2304234 is correct.

      In March 2009 President Obama stated his Policy that started the current mess Worldwide.

      In reaction to President Obama's March 2009 Policy the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran starts: a. Spending the majority of their Oil Wealth on buying 21st Century Modern Weapons from the Chinese and Russian Federation., b. Increases their Funding of their Nuclear Weapons Programs including starting construction of their Underground Nuclear Facilities just deep enough to be out of range of any US or US Allies Weapons Systems., c. Increases their support of the Main Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist Camp located at the Autonomous Kurditanis Region (Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, Border of Syria, Northwestern Iran), this support includes the direct Training of Asymmetric Warfare (Insurgency) of Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists by the Fundmentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Military Special Forces, Quds, Funding, Weapons, Military Equipment, etc.., d. Increased Actions against all US Allies thru Amin Al Husseini's Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations., e. Increased Political Pressure (with Threats of Violence and Asymmetric Warfare (Insurgency) to Overthrow them) for Islamic Nations to get the US and US Allies out of their Islamic Nations (Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Turkey, Jordan, Indonesia, etc.)., f. Implementations to control the Straits of Hormuz, Suez Canal, Ports at Yemen, Mediterranean Ports of Libya, etc..

      In 2010 US Ally Turkey attacks the Autonomous Kurdistanis Region (Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, Border of Syria, Northwestern Iran) and ends up in their current War, Airstrikes, Armor (tanks), Special Forces, etc.. This causes the hundreds of thousands of Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists to flee back to their Nations of Origin; the Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighers and many Fundamentalist Islamic Palestinian Islamic Jihadist Organizations back to Palestine (the Israelis respond with their Blockaides); Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada and Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban flee back to Afghanistan along with the Fundamentalist Islamic Haqquini Network, Fundamentalist Islamic Pakistanis Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Army of Islam Pakistan going back to Pakistan via the Old Silk Road. The Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood flee back to Egypt. The Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Syria Franchise flee back to Syria. The Fundamentalist Islamic Libyan Islamic Fighting Group flee back to Libya. The Fundamentalist Islamic Al Sheebah flee back to Somalia. The Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims flee to Sudan. The Fundamentalist Islamic Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK attempt to hold off or delay the US Ally Turkey Military. The Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Yemen flee back to Yemen and start to reopen the previous Main Islamic Jihadist Training Camp at Northern Yemen. The Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Iraq (AQI) and Ansar Al Islam flee to Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Controlled Areas of Southern Iraq. Lots of etc.

      In 2010 the President's of US Ally Yemen, Former US Ally Libya, US Ally Egypt, US Ally Government of Pakistan (not the Fundamentalist Islamic People of Pakistan), US Ally Jordan, Russian Federation Ally Syria, US Ally Iraq, US Ally Government of Somalia, US Ally Afghanistan and General McChrystal, US Ally Israel, US Ally Indonesia, US Ally Phillipines, Former US Ally Gaddiffi, US Ally Saudi Arabia, US Ally Bahrain, South and Central Americas, etc. all report increased Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist Activities. President Obama and SOS Clinton ignore them as this is against President Obama's March 2009 Policy, General McChrystal receives a Letter of Reprimand for violating President Obama's March 2009 Policy. The Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist that fled from the Autonomous Kurdistanis Region start to implement what they were trained to do by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, as Asymmetric Warfare (Insurgency), get the people of the Nations to fight for your Cause(s) for real or perceived injustices, the "Arab Spring" starts with the Strategic Goals of Defeating the Established Governments of US Allies, control of Strategic Locations, getting the US and US Allies out of Islamic Nations.

      Jonathan-1982062 - If killing is so easy, I wish all the barbaric and beastly Sunni rulers starting from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and others are killed/blown to pieces.

      ENOUGH TWISTING THE TRUTH Jonathan-1982062:

      Shia (Shiites) are the Fundamentalist Islamic Believers aka Muslims (Completely Subjugated to Islam), as the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists.

      Al Quada (Saudi Arabia) was a Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist Organization created by Osama Bin Laden to Overthrow the US Ally Saudi Arabian Government as well as all the US Allies Worldwide. This is why the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, the Fundamentalist Islamic People of Pakistan (Not the US Ally Government of Pakistan), etc. all Supported Osama Bin Laden or gave him Fundamentalist Islamic Sanctuary. Their Belief that the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists will reinstate Fundamentalist Islam as Shia (Sharia) Laws, the Fundamentalist Interpretation of the Holy Koran (Quran) as Law, Fundamentalist Islamic Ancient Customs (Hadith) Laws; And finally defeat the "Western", "Modern", "Non Fundamentalist Islamic Beliefs" including the Fiqh (Reason, Logic) and "Modern", "Liberal", "Western", "Moderate" Interpretations of the Holy Koran (Quran).

      To those that cannot figure things out; Yes, it was President Obama's March 2009 Policy that f**ked up DECADES of our (US Military Asymmetric Warfare (Insurgency Warfare, Counter Insurgency Warfare, Counter Terrorist Warfare, etc.) Work that cost us many lives since the 1980s, in a few years (President Obama's Policy March 2009 to Results of 2012). And now we as your "Middle East" (languages and culture) Qualified US Military Asymmetric Warfare don't give a F**k as most of us will be going on Forced Retirements of President Obama's Current Reduction In Forces (RIFs) of the US Military; so this will all be the problems of Generation X and Generation Y (you hired (elected) President Obama, so you got what you wanted: Strategic Loss of US Allies Worldwide, Strategic Loss of Strategic US Sphere of Influence, Strategic Loss of Locations Worldwide, Strategic Loss of irreplaceable Resources required for Current US Standard of Living especially the High Tech Minerals (Lithium for Electric Car Batteries, Alternative Energy, rechargeable Lithium batteries for "Smartphones" and Laptop computers, microprocessor materials, etc..).

      The RESULTS matter; NOT your uninformed uneducated non factual emotive opinions.

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      #1.34 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

      Hey Assad, your own people have seen the real enemy and he is YOU!

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      #1.35 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

      david,

      "The RESULTS matter; NOT your uninformed uneducated non factual emotive opinions."

      It's not that I disagree with you but, judging by the number of times you used the "f" word in the last paragraph of your post, I would say it represents a pretty emotive opinion, wouldn't you?

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      #1.36 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

      david-475776 No value. Inflammatory.

        #1.37 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

        Assad is playing from the same song book that Gadafi did accusing an outside war and all.... And like Gadafi he's either a very "good" liar, or a true sociopath who can't see his own hand behind it all... This world will be a better place the day Assad leaves it; and perhaps goes to a much awaited second death...

        In any case though, he wouldn't be the first, and probably won't be the last psycho-path who fails to see their own hand in the killing they're responsible for, and instead sees the actions, the responsibility, and the fault for their own murderious behavior as somehow lieing outside of themself....

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        #1.38 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

        Nuadormrac,

        "Assad is playing from the same song book that Gadafi did accusing an outside war and all.... And like Gadafi he's either a very "good" liar, or a true sociopath who can't see his own hand behind it all..."

        I agree. Unfortunately, though, he has a captive audiance since he controls the media in Syria, and many of the Syrian people probably believe the lies he tells them, and that's why they support him. What other source of information do they have?

          #1.39 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

          david,

          You said a mouth full, and then some. To fully understand the problems in the Middle East, one must understand the history of Islam. That is because all armed conflicts in that region of the world have been based on religious beliefs since who really knows when. You talk of moderate MODERN Sunni Bathists. When Mohamed died without hand picking a successor, Shia and Sunni went to war, that they are still fighting to this day. Nothing MODERN about that. To keep it simple, it looks like Islam is going through the same evolution that Christianity went through. It started out as a peaceful thing that almost walked hand in hand with Christianity. It's founder died, and in the absence of a strong leader, it's two main factions tried to, but found it impossible to reach an agreement. Christianity, which in it's purest form like Islam, is nothing more than a way of life, ended up overtaking the Roman Empire, and became one of the most militant religions in recorded history. (the crusades, spanish inquisition, and on and on and so forth It grew out of that phase, in time, but I see the militant element starting to re-assert itself, because of the inner turmoil that Islam is going through and it's seemingly goal of world domination. Christianity needs to protect itself, I guess. I grew up in a Christian environment, went to Sunday school, Bible studies etc. etc. But I belong to the Human Race, which has been around longer and is bigger than ANY organized religion on the face of this Earth. All that aside, religion and politics are an unfortunate, but inevitable, aspect of the human race. Utopia will never exist, because as long as there are two human beings, there will be a difference of opinion..........and thus the conflict starts. Politics and religion, (differences of opinions) keeping the human race at odds with itself since the beginning. I have to walk my dog now. Dog spelled backwards is god. Be well.

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          #1.40 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

          captn curtass,

          "Utopia will never exist, because as long as there are two human beings, there will be a difference of opinion..........and thus the conflict starts."

          Very well put, and so very true. Then, in Christianity, after the Roman Catholic period of domination, you had the Protestant Reformation that led to the 30 Year's War and the 100 Year's War. We always find something or other to fight about.

            #1.41 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

            Mickey-1983943 - It's not that I disagree with you but, judging by the number of times you used the "f" word in the last paragraph of your post, I would say it represents a pretty emotive opinion, wouldn't you?

            So I don't have the Right to use the F**k word after experiencing quite a lot of my friends and buddies die in Combat; many lost arms, legs, eyes, etc. and could no longer be with us.

            strmz - david-475776 No value. Inflammatory.

            Sure don't listen to Firsthand Experience from a Participant (Survivor), that is why it is Inflammatory to you since you want to DENY FACTS as learned from the Life or Death School of Hard Knocks.

            How about this be an adult during an Adult Conversation of Facts on Newsvine's "Get Smarter Here" and dispute each thing that I mentioned sentence by sentence.

            Nuadormrac - Assad is playing from the same song book that Gadafi did accusing an outside war and all.... And like Gadafi he's either a very "good" liar, or a true sociopath who can't see his own hand behind it all.

            Shows just how much YOU DO NOT KNOW:

            Prior to the "Libyan Civil War" the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists of Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. that fled the US Ally Turkey Military Raids of the Autonomous Kurdistanis Region went to Libya to Overthrow Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers (an Islamic Death Penalty Fawtawa crime being a Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers), they become the 80% of the "Libyan Rebels".

            As part of their Training by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Military Special Forces, Quds, they start a Civil War using the Foreign Nationals brought into Libya to do the work that Libyan Citizens Refused to do, and these Foreign Nationals demanding Libyan Citizens Rights and Benefits at Bengazai. Bengazai was of strategic importance to the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists aka "Libyan Rebels"due to the 60 bunker Hight Razma facility on the eastern outskirts of Benghazi and a 35 bunker facility on the eastern outskirts of Ajdabiyah." The term "bunkers" is a misnomer as some of these "bunkers" were the size of warehouses. After the Libyan Military Guards were massacred at these Libyan Munitions Depots, the Facilities were left unguarded. This is how about 20,000 shoulder launched portable SA-7 anti aircraft missiles ended up "missing"; believed to be currently in the hands of Al Quada and the rest of the Islamic Terrorists (Jihadist, Worldwide Islamic Military), possible use shoot down US and US Ally Commerical Airlines (Aircraft) worldwide (after all the other publicly known failed attempts); most US Military and US Ally Military Aircraft have detection and countermeasures (some are still shot down by SA-7s, mistaken for RPGs (similar warhead).).

            The Rights and Benefits of Libyan Citizens under President Gaddaffi:

            a. Upon Marriage a Free House or Apartment.

            b. Free Education including Post Graduate and being paid while at College the average of the Salary of that Profession.

            c. Vehicles sold at Cost.

            d. Gasoline at $0.33 per liter. During the Civil War $0.66 per liter. After the Civil War all this stopped and the Libyan Oil sold to the Chinese thru deals made with the Libyan Rebels by Qatar.

            e. 100% Free Medical, Dental, Vision Care, even if the best of the Medical Profession must be flown in.

            f. Full Unemployment pay based on the Average of that Profession.

            g. Lots of etc.. as listed in his contract to the Citizens of Libya, aka "Green Book". Including the Best Human Rights as praised by the United Nations and the UA (African Union). As those things (Benefits and Rights of Libyan Citizenship) NOT given to the Foreign Nationals brought into Libya to do the work that Libyan Citizens Refused to Do (including the dangerous hard work at the Libyan Oil Fields).

            President Gaddaffi's screw ups that got him Overthrown and Killed: a. He stated Nationalization of Libyan Resources, to take away control from the European Oil Corporations*, so that most of the profits would remain in Libya., b. Collaborated with the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers in direct violations of the Holy Koran (Quran) 109 Suras of the 114 Suras Calls to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers: 1). Denounced Terrorism to get the previous UN and US Sanctions and Trade Embargoes of President Bush lifted, to sell Libyan Oil to the US European Allies., 2). Ordered his Libyan Military to go after Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada and the Fundamentalist Islamic Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (previously killing US Military at Iraq) at Libya., 3) Discontinued his persuit of WMDs, and turned over his Chemical Weapons to President Bush (don't laugh he was personally there, photograph, id!ot not wearing any chemical protective equipment)., 4) Gaddaffi's Human Rights against the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Sharia) Laws and Hadith (Ancient Islamic Customs) Laws., 5). many more reasons as demanded by Amin Al Husseini's Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations.

            *During the G meeting at France as attended by SOS Clinton the Oil Corporation Lobbyists were Lobbying for the Overthrow of President Gaddaffi to stop his Libyan Oil Nationalization. These Oil Corporations were: BP (Britain), Total, Elf (France), Eni (Italy), OMV (Austria), Statoil (Norway), etc.. So instead of these European Oil Corporations hiring cheap Libyan Labor then keeping all the Profits, with Gaddaffi's Resource Nationalization, they would get almost nothing and the majority of the profits would remain in Libya. So in anticipation of their Governments Military Actions to Overthrow Gaddaffi to stop his Resource Nationalization, "Non essential" European Oil Corporation personnel were evacuated Februrary 21, 2011.

            And the other Lie, "No US Military Boots On the Ground". Sure on paper when we are attached to the President's Own Executive Intelligence Ageny, CIA SAD/SOG, we are then US Civilians conducting "Para Military" Operations. So we were placed on Standby for redeployment from here (Afghanistan) to be attached to the CIA SAD/SOG to provide Security, Targeting, Target Damage Assessments, Training of the Libyan Rebels, Rescue Recovery Recapture Operations (downed US or NATO Pilots), etc. and fortunely for us the less experienced Teams (no College Level Education at Islamic Nations: Arabic, Islam, that we are required to have) of US AFRICOM were sent instead of us.

            captn curtass - david, You said a mouth full, and then some. To fully understand the problems in the Middle East, one must understand the history of Islam.

            The History of Islam was Mandatory for all of us US Military Asymmetric Warfare that attended Colleges at Islamic Nations, in my case College at Egypt to learn Arabic and later on Islam only taught in Arabic, and also in my case I have surived since the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, and our Teams later rotated to participate in Operation Cyclone, and then all the other things that happened from then until now (being here at Afghanistan) during the so called "Peacetime" US Military.

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            #1.42 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

            david,

            "So I don't have the Right to use the F**k word after experiencing quite a lot of my friends and buddies die in Combat; many lost arms, legs, eyes, etc. and could no longer be with us."

            I didn't say you don't have the right to use the "@!$%#" word. I just said it's a pretty "emotive" expression, and it was for being "emotive" that you were condemning others, a case of the pot calling the kettle black, it seems to me.

              #1.43 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

              Mickey-1983943 - I didn't say you don't have the right to use the "@!$%#" word. I just said it's a pretty "emotive" expression, and it was for being "emotive" that you were condemning others, a case of the pot calling the kettle black, it seems to me.

              Wrong I stated "emotive" Facts from Firsthand Experience, NOT non factual "emotive" opinions. If you cannot tell the difference between Facts and opinions; then I admit that I failed as a previous Teacher of the Failed Broken US Education System before I got recalled again to Active Duty US Military as an Officer.

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              #1.44 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 8:16 PM EDT

              david,

              "I admit that I failed as a previous Teacher of the Failed Broken US Education System before I got recalled again to Active Duty US Military as an Officer."

              You may have been a teacher in our "Failed Broken US Education System", but I doubt you were ever my teacher since I'm 62 years old. Most of my teachers are probably dead by now. And I do know the difference between a fact and an opinion, however, I'm not sure I have ever heard of an "emotive" fact. A fact is just a fact.

                #1.45 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

                Yes we will, Mickey, it's the nature of the beast.

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                #1.46 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 8:53 PM EDT

                captn curtass,

                I thought your post was very good. It was historically accurate and did not place unnecessary blame on anyone. You simply pointed out that it is human nature to fight over differences of opinion and belief.

                  #1.47 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:00 PM EDT

                  And the dimwits in Washington want us to get involved in this?????!!!!!!!!!

                  It's astonishing isn't it? Think if Willard gets in office. We'll be there, on the ground. he'll have us there within a month of his inauguration. My guess.

                  Young people, don't join the Army or Marines. Not now!! Think...think!!! Don't believe the propaganda Washington spews out!!!

                  There's Air Force, Navy, Coastguard.

                    #1.48 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

                    take assad's stmts as a plea for intervention against the aggresors and see who shoots back.

                      #1.49 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

                      Mickey-1983943 - I'm not sure I have ever heard of an "emotive" fact. A fact is just a fact.

                      Dead muther f**ker is an "emotive" fact, as dead is dead as a Fact.

                      Mickey-1983943 - I thought your post was very good. It was historically accurate and did not place too much blame on anyone.

                      Credit where credit is due, Blame and Fault were blame and Fault is due. Go Research President Obama's March 2009 Policy, list the title below (prove you know), then put everything that has happened from then (March 2009) till now on a timeline as sequence of Events.

                      You are starting to sound like the Sunnis and the typical US Citizens, "We did not harm anyone so no one should harm us"; same mentality of the almost millions of Peaceful African Islamic Believers that were massacred by the hundreds a day by the Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims for refusing to attack the Christian Africans at Darfur. And you wonder why the Sunnis are getting their arses killed off by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia, that do not give a f**k about your opinions and use armed force first not empty words (aka negotiations), like what they Fundamentalist Islamic Al Sheebah is doing at Somalia, the Somalis people believing your academic idealistic not real world "We did not harm anyone so no one should harm us" (Al Sheebah destroying all of our work of UN Mission Somalia I and UN Mission Somalia II, mostly paid for with US Taxpayer money and US Military lives; the projects and programs to end the cycles of Somalia's Droughts and Famine being destroyed by Fundamentalist Islamic Al Sheebah, Islam's use of Starvation as a Weapon (just like the Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Warlords do at Palestine, what the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban did here (Afghanistan) to 20th Century Afghanistan (built up during the 1950s to 1979 by the US and torn apart by the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban 1990s), Fundamentalist Islamic Pakistanis Taliban withholding International Aid at Pakistan after the disaster (Flood) or they will kill the Aid Workers, etc. and blaming the Famines, Starvation, Misery on the US And US Allies.).

                      Sure, Mickey-1983943, the Real World believes in "No Fault", NOT.

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                      #1.50 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

                      franklyorange - Young people, don't join the Army or Marines. Not now!! Think...think!!! Don't believe the propaganda Washington spews out!!! There's Air Force, Navy, Coastguard.

                      Do you know why I am laughing, it is like I stated at post #1.34. This is all on you Generation X and Generation Y.

                      Also I did mention that President Obama is RIF'ing the US Military (we were told during Secretary of Defense Gate's last Visit here (Afghanistan)). This makes all Branches of US Military Service capable of being highly selective.

                      Previously, President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered, April 2009, US Military Defense Budget Cuts of the USAF and USN so you option of franklyorange "There's Air Force, Navy, Coastguard." Translation: Your only option is the Ground Combat Forces of the US Army or USMC if there was no RIF.

                      Do you know why many of the US Military voted for Candidate Obama. Because of his Verbal Contract (Campaign Promise) as stated during the Presidential Debates (youtube.com, watch the full version so that nothing is "out of context"). Candidate Obama's Solution to end the repeated deployments of the same US Military 1% of US Citizens, was to start up the Selective Service (aka Draft) and or Mandatory Compulsory US Military Service to force the 92% of US Citizens that have NEVER Served in the US Military to "Do their Fair Share" as Candidate Obama stated, "US Citizenship is not an Entitlement" (Earned US Citizenship, not based on mistake of location of Birth), and that "US Military Service is a Civic Duty". Many of us (US Military on Active Duty) were cheering including those of us that were "Drafted" in our Senior Year of High School (myself Field Artillery, then LRRP/Ranger) especially about Candidate Obama's No Exemptions. Senator McCain had no solutions.

                      Good f**king luck Generation X and Generation Y.

                      By the way Mickey-1983943, the oldest currently on Active Duty US Military is a US Military Reserve Officer Recalled to Active Duty in the Special Category (same Category as us with excuse of "Needs of National Security"; except not Medical Profession) at age 69 (mistake 71, he was 69 two years ago). Of course we could refuse and lose all our earned Retirement and or be thrown in the nearest Federal Penitentiary (usually mentioned during the Retirement Briefings).

                      So try again:

                      Mickey-1983943 - but I doubt you were ever my teacher since I'm 62 years old.

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                      #1.51 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

                      One can't trust most of the Muslim rulers on what they say and do.

                      On Syria, one can jump as high as one wants. Assad, one of the best ME rulers is going to stay just like his father.

                      Most forget Russia's role here.

                        #1.52 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

                        david,

                        "You are starting to sound like the Sunnis and the typical US Citizens, "We did not harm anyone so no one should harm us"; same mentality of the almost millions of Peaceful African Islamic Believers that were massacred by the hundreds a day by the Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims for refusing to attack the Christian Africans at Darfur"

                        That's interesting; especially since I didn't say a thing one way or the other about Muslims in my posts. I think you are getting confused, Dave, and starting to rave. Get it together, man!

                        And I don't care how old the oldest active duty person is, you could not have been my teacher since most of my grade school and high school teachers would probably be dead by now, and you are obviously not dead.

                          #1.53 - Mon Jun 4, 2012 9:24 AM EDT
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                          We have a lot to worry and gripe about-but we are the luckiest s.ob.s. on the planet.

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                          Reply#2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

                          and time to mind our own business instead of jumping as Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists want.

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                          #2.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

                          I am not very religious by terms of definition. I kinda feel that AQ is the catalist of the prophecies as it is written in the Bible. This is just an observation of what I see and what I have read.

                            #2.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                            What you have seen or read may be delusional fragmentation of your imagination as you see it, but then of course I'm not that religious myself. What I do know is that outside sources of the 3rd kind could level Assad's kingdom as he knows it within a few days.

                              #2.3 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                              Stonepipe, so true. I treasure our freedoms and, even in this economy, our prosperity, and my rights as a woman in this society to move about freely and work (and keep house, which I also enjoy). I'll take American corruption over Syria's or Pakistan's or Mexico's any day.

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                              #2.4 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:10 PM EDT
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                              I just need to know one thing, was Frankenstein Jewish ?

                                Reply#4 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

                                Nope, I believe his parts were German.

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                                #4.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

                                I saw one theory that the brain was Abby Normal's.

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                                #4.3 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:21 PM EDT
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                                another laughable us policy. The US policy makers and global elite are the REAL enemy.

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                                Reply#5 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                                thrill22: Enough with the bumper sticker generics. Why don't you detail U.S. policy on Syria. Those of us standing in the dark would love for you to shed some light on all of this.

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                                #5.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

                                roger white-3731376 - thrill22: Enough with the bumper sticker generics. Why don't you detail U.S. policy on Syria. Those of us standing in the dark would love for you to shed some light on all of this.

                                Get off your obese lazy arse and do the Research starting with President Obama's March 2009 Policy, SOS Clinton's CBS Interviews, US Department of State Internet Site, etc..

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                                #5.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                                I like all those ships being staged by Iran.Get ready for war and insane fuel prices.

                                  #5.3 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                                  ron17571 - I like all those ships being staged by Iran.Get ready for war and insane fuel prices.

                                  I don't like that. As before learning Arabic at College at Egypt then Islam at Egypt while living with Egyptian Families, the First language I learned to become "Middle East" Qualified US Military Asymmetric Warfare (aka Special Warfare) was Farsi at the US (College) from Iranian Ex-Pats.

                                  I have seen enough War ever since the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars till now (Afghanistan). Because the then New Fundamentalist Islamic Government of Iran purged all their previously trained Military Officers and NCOs suspected of being loyal to the Shah of Iran, the Iranians were grabbed off the streets, given weapons with no ammunition, marched or trucked to the "Front", given ammunition, and forced to attack the US Ally Iraqis Machineguns just like World War I, we had trained the Iraqis Military very well in interlocking fires, combined supporting firepower of motars, artillery, etc.. There were Iranian bodies on top of bodies by the thousands from their Human Wave Charges, as living Iranians attempted to climb over the dead to keep attacking. The Iraqis would call a cease fire to allow the Iranians evacuate their wounded; however, because they had failed the Iranians would just shoot their wounded. During this time we also realized that many of the Pro USSR Afghans were fighting along side their Hosts the USSR Backed Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, these Pro USSR Afghans fled to the USSR Backed Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran during the USSR 40th Army Occupation of Afghanistan as the USSR did not care which Afghans the massacred Pro USSR or Pro US did not matter (what we later saw when we were rotated to Pakistan/Afghanistan for Operation Cyclone). It was normal for us to lead those that we trained into Combat, so that if we screwed up training them we could make on the spot corrections and take notes to modify future training if we survived. The Pro USSR Afghans later returned to Afghanistan after the USSR 40th Army Occupation and the Iran Iraq Wars and became the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban and then they massacred the 20,000 to 50,000 Pro US Afghan Muhajeen, their families, relatives, in laws, etc. then they went after the rest of the Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers and massacred them too (including Buddhists, Taoists, etc.), then they started to destroy everything "Western", Modern, etc.

                                  Knowing what I have seen, I wrote this about Iran, Never ever underestimate your enemy especially when they are backed by the Majority of the World (Russian Federation, China, 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide, most Fundamentalist Islamic Nations, etc.), then there are the non factual emotive opinions as non participants over confidence in US High Tech Weapons Systems that are not the latest nor the greatest 21st Century Technology or is easily defeated by low tech or no tech methods:

                                  Iran 2009 to 2012, Strait of Hormuz

                                  http://david393071.newsvine.com/_news/2012/01/03/9928679-iran-2009-to-2012-strait-of-hormuz

                                  Of Strategic Value, unlike the United States; the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran has a continuity of knowledge from their mistakes since the Iran Iraq Wars (same Ayatollahs that still actually control everything at Iran), the US does not at the Political Decision Making Levels (repeats the same mistakes and expects different results or turns US Allies into Enemies and Flip Flops on Foreign Policy every 4 to 8 years.).

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                                  #5.4 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:00 PM EDT
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                                  its all in perception and media,when one country has a different views,but in reality everybody does the killing when we kill its called liberation,when british its called defending,when israel is called survival,etchumans are the most destructive animal and un is just a joke,no one should be killed ever......

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                                  Reply#6 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                                  Down south we have a saying, "He needed Killing!" Assad needs killing!

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                                  #6.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

                                  Tom, indeed he does. He needs killing badly.

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                                  #6.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:39 AM EDT
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                                  from austria a mutant austro-hungarian

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                                  Reply#7 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:09 AM EDT

                                  michael wind - from austria a mutant austro-hungarian

                                  Naomi Wolf: 'Obama can lock any US citizen up without trial'

                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE

                                  December 2011 President Obama signs the NDAA into US Law, Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens (without Hearings, Trials, etc.), US Military use of Deadly Force against Armed and Unarmed US Citizens, etc..

                                  December 2011 President Obama backpeddles on being against President Bush's US Military Deployment of US Military ABMs to Eastern Europe. President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders US Military Deployment of US Military ABMs to Romania.

                                  November 2011 President Obama to circumvent US Congress (Lawmakers) states his Policy of, "Only Criminal Undocumented Workers will be deported".

                                  President Obama Relieves the General he Nominated to Command Afghanistan, General McChrystal, as General McChrystal has found out just how much, "This Administration Does Not Know What It Is Doing", as President Obama and the US Politicians micromanaging the War from thousands of miles away with no training nor experience in US Military Asymmetric Warfare (that General McChystal has from being previous Commander JSOC (Joint Special Operation Command), Commander Joint Special Operations Task Force Iraq as the Righthand man to General Petraeus (locating, capture of President Hussein), etc.). Because President Obama does not have a Legal Leg to stand on pertaining to "Insubordination", President Obama makes a Deal with General McChrystal to get General McChrystal's Letter of Resignation, just like he did with General McKiernan and later with General Petraeus, as President Obama's alternative was for US Congress (that confirmed the Commanders) to hold Public US Congressional Hearings with everything becoming Public Knowledge as to why, "This Administration Does Not Know What It Is Doing", that would destroy President Obama's Political Career.

                                  President Obama demands that the US Justice Department go after those US States that have Legislated State Laws that restate the Federal Immigration Laws as State Laws (A US Constitutional Right, as "State's Rights").

                                  President Obama Relieves General McKiernan of Command of Afghanistan since General McKiernan demands more US Military to accomplish the General McKiernan Plan to Win Afghanistan. After being Relieved of Command President Obama grabs General McKiernan's Plan to Win Afghanistan and claims that this is the Obama Plan to Win Afghanistan, without realizing without General McKiernan's Commander's Intent, General McKiernan's War Plan is Useless.

                                  President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders the US Military to Attack Former US Ally Libya, funded by US Taxpayer Money as Not Budgeted For Discretionary Funding. US Congress is NOT notified in advance in accordance with the US Law, 1973 War Powers Resolution, to restrict the US Presidential War Powers to prevent another Vietnam Escalation ("War Creep"). Results of Libya: Defeat of a former US Ally by the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists as 80% of the "Libyan Rebels". US Taxpayers paid Hundreds of Billions USDs of Discretionary Spending including paying for NATO's Fuel, Bombs, Personnel. Another Fundamentalist Islamic Republic is created. The Foreigners brought into Libya to do the work that the Libyan Citizens will not do, control Libya. The US European Allies loss of the Strategic Libyan Oil (After US Lost Iraqis Oil) to the Chinese via Qatar, the US European Ally Germany does not care and did not want to get involved with Libya since they get most of their Oil and Natural Gas from the Russian Federation since the 1980s. The Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists release President Obama's Guantanamo Prisoners transfered to Gaddaffi'sPrisons. The Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist obtain 20,000 shoulder launched anti aircraft SA-7 missiles to shoot down US Commerical Aircraft.

                                  The US Military and US Intelligence Agencies request Presidential Authorization to conduct a Special Reconassiance Mission into Pakistan to verify the location of Osama Bin Laden, President Obama vehemently objects as a failure will destroy his Political Career. Admiral McRaven proceeds with his Plans with the input of General McChrystal, the mockups of the Osama Bin Laden compound are built at Bagram AFB based on NRO Satellite Images and CIA on the ground information.

                                  April 2009 President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders the US Military Defense Budget Cuts of the USAF and USN. In 2012 President Obama in his State of the Union Address backpeddles on the elimination of one USN Aircraft Carrier Strike Group as a hundred thousand US Labor Union Workers that maintain the USN Aircraft Carrier Strike Group to be eliminated threaten to drive down from Virginia and Strike on the steps of the Whitehouse.

                                  April 2009 President Obama's Policy "US Military will not be used to secure US Borders".

                                  March 2009 President Obama's Foreign Policy (see Results at post#1.34), removed from the Democratic National Committee's List of President Obama's List of Achievements.

                                  January 22, 2009 President Obama during a Staged News Media Event signing into US Laws his Patriot Acts (Plural), 3:48 minutes of 11:55 minutes:

                                  Naomi Wolf: 'Obama can lock any US citizen up without trial'

                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE

                                  January 21, 2009 President Obama signs into US Laws his Patriot Acts (Plural) that: Legalize the Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications (Especially the Internet), "Expanded Presidential Powers" (US Congress as US Citizen's Representatives not needed), inclusion of the George Orwell 1984 Thought Crimes Laws from the defeated as Unconstitutional US Senate S.1959 and US House of Representatives H.R.1955 as the written or verbal statement is also the criminal act, lots of etc..

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                                  #7.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 4:49 PM EDT
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                                  Assad knows the source of the violence, but is still trying to hide behind his 'innocent' face. He has allowed Iranian killing squads, working in plain clothes, to take care of most of the murders, allowing him to 'honestly' say that Syrian forces are not involved. Iran is merely practicing for the Iranian Spring. Russia also denies supporting Assad, but the proof is there, since the weapons being used are Russian made and are not surplus from any other conflict. Explain the presence of Russian ships in the harbor, offloading large crates of ammunition. Assad is delusional, exactly like Saddam Hussein and Muammar Kaddafi.

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                                  Reply#8 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

                                  mathuin: You got that right!!! Russia must be that outside source Assad is referring to.

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                                  #8.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

                                  assssyidd is NOT delusional uno, he lernned these tactics from the Russkies & the USA's Polititions and BANKURZZ, ... longggggg time ago.

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                                  #8.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

                                  denko95:

                                  You are right, but I just have to ask; where did you learn to spell, from an advertisement agency specializing in junk food? Don't take me seriously, I did like your comment!

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                                  #8.3 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

                                  mathuin- He has allowed Iranian killing squads, working in plain clothes, to take care of most of the murders, allowing him to 'honestly' say that Syrian forces are not involved.

                                  Wrong, the President Assad Bathists (Islamic Form of Democratic Party as much as Islam will allow) hate the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran. Bathists being Democratic Socialists is exactly why they got along so well with the Former USSR and the now Russian Federation.

                                  roger white-3731376- mathuin: You got that right!!!

                                  The Days of "Yes Men" disappeared after people could just research things on the internet (if they bothered to get off their lazy arses).

                                  The Reason most Democracies FAIL, is due to the Fact that their Neighbors are NOT Democracies. As Democracies are easy pickings to be Eliminated and Overthrown by the time the Mob Rule of Democracies finally decide on a general consensus their Course of Actions against the Attacks from their Neighbors. To prevent having a target painted on their Nation's Backs most of these Democracies then seem to be like "Dictatorships" to the US and US European Allies. This is why the Founding Fathers that believed that Democracies are "Mob Rule" established the United States of America as A Representative Form of Government and NOT a Democracy; And Established the United States of America as a Constitutional Republic and NOT a Democracy.

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                                  #8.4 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:14 PM EDT
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                                  Pres Assad; you are just another example of the devil in earthly form. You are a vicious animal with like-minded animals doing your bidding as they kill innocent people of Syria. You need to resign and go away as soon as possible. You have more than enough $$$ to take you through the rest of your pathetic life. Do it now before something happens to you and your family. Peace be with you.

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                                  Reply#9 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

                                  It is clear that Assad's army is shelling indescriminantly in Homs, but I doubt his forces are responsible for killing factory workers off a bus. This has the hallmark of Islamicists trying to sabotauge the image and economic structure of the Assad regime.

                                  I wonder if the perpetrators had shaved heads and long beards?

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                                  #9.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:14 PM EDT
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                                  Assad is right! I think that soon he WILL be fighting outside forces that will NOT allow him to commit genocide against his own people! My hope is that this war will be waged by members of the Arab League. There is no need for western involvment, which could easily be used as propaganda --- another instance of the West interfering in Middle East affairs on Muslim lands!

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                                  Reply#10 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:15 AM EDT

                                  Maybe bone head, if you want to go to Syria, spend your time, your money and your life, to help out the rebels, feel free.

                                  Promise you that the rest of us will be looking for away to impeach any US official that gives them money or our troops.

                                    #10.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:41 PM EDT
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                                    The reason the USA must leave this alone is simple and horrific, but it is what it is. People in the Middle East, including in Syria, think the USA is the demon behind all evils. They need this experience without our intervention to finally grasp we are NOT behind all evils, that they are capable of some evils all by themselves. After some time for introspection, they might then be able to deal with us realistically. I do with them a speedy resolution, as by now they may have seen enough to grasp this. Assad, however right or wrong you think yourself, it's time you left for the good of Syria.

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#11 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

                                    john, THEY do NOT have enough brains between ALL of their IZZZZHAAAALAAAHMIKKK countries put together to figure anything out, PERIOD, just a bunch of "FAN-ATIKKKKKZ" and FOOLZ!

                                    &&&&&&& I think they all eat PORK here in the USA 2.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #11.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

                                    john:

                                    Simply stated. Straight forward. Could not agree more with you!!

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #11.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:56 AM EDT

                                    You are right.

                                    Many may not understand: after each Iraqi war, Muslims started hating the US and West more and more! Here Shiites and Sunnis joined hands.

                                    What is going on in Syria nothing compared to what has been going on in Pakistan, Afghanistan and other Muslim nations.

                                    Just keep away from their own Shiites and Sunni passionate battles.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #11.3 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:24 AM EDT
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                                    The Middle East is the Land of da Devil. The U S should just stay out of there. They will never have Peace.

                                    Why do all the Middle Eastern women have to dress up like “Cousin It”?

                                    Hopefully there will come a day when we can tell them to “Drink their Oil and Eat their Sand”.

                                    Remember Republicans, when these Foreign Countries ask for Aid and Funding….just say No.

                                    Cut off all Funding to Pakistan. Why are we giving them Billions of $$$$$$ just to be our “Little Friend”? Did they Apologize for Hiding Out Bin Laden?

                                    You Bet Cha….Fer Sure

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                                    Reply#12 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

                                    Just a piece of crap. No one believes you. You will be dragged through the streets of Damascus by your own people. Just a matter of time. If you turn your despicable self in you will be tried for Crimes against Humanity. Do yourself a favor. Kill yourself now!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    Reply#13 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

                                    Folks, the reason for the Riots and Revolutions going on in the Middle East is due to High Unemployment, Poverty, Middle Class being wiped out, Financial Injustice and Oppression from their Government. Sound Familiar? Don’t be surprised when it happens here.

                                    For years this Country has been ran by by the Lobbyist, Special Interest, and the Self Righteous. It’s gotten to the point where the young people are fed up with the Greed and Corruption in our system. It has reached a Boiling Point.

                                    Republicans only believe in “Middle Class Warfare”. They always think the Middle Class should carry the Burden.

                                    • 10 votes
                                    Reply#14 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

                                    For years this Country has been ran by by the Lobbyist, Special Interest, and the Self Righteous.

                                    that's why I say, young people, do not enlist in Army and Marines!!! Don't do it. Don't just throw yourselves into the arms of the above three, cause they'll take you.

                                    Let Paul Ryan pass his budget cutting veterans' benefits. Go ahead, fool, do it.

                                      #14.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:42 PM EDT
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                                      Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is a Big Fan of da Republican TeaBilly Politicians.

                                      You BetCha.....Fer Sure.

                                        Reply#15 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

                                        jstdafacts, you are an idiot. Go to your room and don't come out until you have finished coloring all the pages in your new coloring book.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #15.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:32 AM EDT

                                        jstdafacts, you wouldn't know a fact if it introduced itself to you.

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                                        #15.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:24 PM EDT
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                                        What i like about Assad is he isnt a muslim terrorist. If he is replaced it will likely be a sunni muslim with ties to terrorism. But i think its funny that americans are in so much angusih of killings in the middle east when we have killings in every city in america on a daily basis. Too funny. Im glad the warships are going to asia we have sunk enough blood and treasure in the middle east. And by the way how did our little overthrow plan work out in egypt. Thx america for spreading islamic terrorism. And by the way im not either a clunkhead republican nor a weak liberal democrat. I am liberterian.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#16 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

                                        China and Russia should be voted out of the UN and can go and suck their motherlands' p u s s i e s.

                                          Reply#17 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

                                          It seems that in that part of the world, if you don't like someone, you call them a terrorist and kill them. And if another country tries to intervene, you claim that country is waging war. Hmmmmmm, wonder when that will start happening here?

                                            Reply#18 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

                                            jimmy, tis reddy here, been here longgggggggg time 2. JUST LOOK around a little.

                                              #18.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:42 AM EDT
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                                              The one that needs to get out of the United Nations, is the United States. The UN is a joke and a terrible waste of taxpayers money.

                                              • 8 votes
                                              Reply#19 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:30 AM EDT

                                              If powerful and, I assume, rich Muslim states support the uprising in Syria, why do they not supply arms to the insurgents? Why should they wait for support to come from another culture on the other side of the world? They can be very critical of the inaction of others while they invest their billions in toys for royal families. Arabs, you want to lead? Show some leadership here and preempt the Western Powers for a change.

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                                              Reply#20 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:40 AM EDT

                                              ASSAAAAAAD is a JOKE, along with the UN too! WE NEED OUT OF THE >>> UNITED NOTHINGS, that the usa of Meheeco pays for.

                                                Reply#21 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:40 AM EDT

                                                Assad was just waiting for a number of sound bites from the media he could use to "prove" its all the US's fault (Obama mulling action over Syria). That's how the middle east dictators stay in power despite doing and supporting crazy violent and horrible things. They simply spin everything blaming the US on all the woes "their people" are suffering. Counting on the fact the US wouldn't bomb the heck out of them or demand apologies just because they mouth a bunch of lies.

                                                  Reply#22 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

                                                  Notice how the U.S. is the country attacking all these middle Eastern countries. Is Peru attacking them? No Is Australia? No. It's the U.S. funding terrorists and murdering kids to build up support for a war so our fascist government can send our soldiers, who signed up to defend our country, to attack another country to steal their resources for multinational corporations. All of these countries aren't simultaneously lying and just randomly blaming the U.S.. They blame us because we're the world tyrant.

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                                                  #22.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

                                                  delusional moron

                                                    #22.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

                                                    They blame us because we're the world tyrant.

                                                    They blame us because we use the largest share of energy in the world in proportion to our population. They blame us because we don't have the power to change their ideologies, their relgions, or their mores. As an imperialist capitalist regime, we capitalize on their "backwardness". We profit off of the wars we initiate. They blame us, because u.s. government backs whatever regime gives us more access to their natural resourcesm, or political leverage.

                                                    We enjoy our standard of living at a huge cost. We are an imperialistc lot, just like the motherland, Britain. WE will brutalize any nation to ensure our imperialism. We imported black slaves, we ransacked the native americans. Ah, we are just as evil as any other nation. It's how somebody judges our "sins" compared to another country's. We're selfish, self seeking. It's called human nature. And its catching up with us. Deal with it.

                                                      #22.3 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:52 PM EDT
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                                                      SS ASS AD the USA is out of money

                                                        Reply#23 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:51 AM EDT

                                                        Can not anyone see what is happen there it is not the government it is not the people it is outside TERRORIST that is doing all of the kiling there.

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                                                        Reply#24 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

                                                        It's sad how clueless most Americans are to believe that Assad would randomly start killing his own supporters. The U.S. killed those kids (well the U.S. and NATO) so they can try to defame the Syrian government and build up support to invade the country and steal their resources. Actual Syrian people I know are all saying NATO forces and the CIA are funding Al Quada to kill Syrian civilians. People need to use common sense and think about things before believing our corrupt media in this country. The media in the U.S. comes down to three companies which are all co-owned by big banks and military contractors. So use your head people.

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                                                        #25.1 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

                                                        Without any facts or links to back up your story, it's just another conspiracy theory.

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                                                        #25.2 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                                                        we learned a good lesson in Iraq so I don't think we would use the same policy in Syria.

                                                          #25.3 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                                                          delusional moron

                                                            #25.4 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

                                                            You are a moron and the 5 people who voted you up are morons too. Yea dude, let that @!$%# roam free, lets turn our backs and pretend like nothing happens like before the holocaust. That is if you don't mind bat@!$%# crazy people making nukes.

                                                              #25.5 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                                                              Yeah about as crazy as Sadam being given biological weapons by the CIA,or Bin Laden being given missles.

                                                              So we are broke as a country and yet need to be the worlds freakin police force,Panetta saying we need more navy ships and to expand our presence in asia.Hey were only in debt for 16 trillion.

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                                                              #25.6 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 4:20 PM EDT
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                                                              Why would the Syrian Government commit an atrocity like this, especially when they know the world is watching. Do you think they're hoping NATO will come and bomb the hell out of em like they did in Libya? This was carried out by forces who would benefit if this is blamed on the Government.

                                                                Reply#26 - Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:04 AM EDT
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